Rama worship is not there in Tamil Nadu, only few Bharamin community worship rama and krishna. In Tamil nadu, Tamilian worship Perumal (Vishnu) instead of worshiping rama or krishna
@@சgத் please read my comment properly. From Sangam literatures (which is 2000 to 2300 years before) Tamil people knew about Ramayana, but no where its mentioned that they worship Rama as a God or incarnation of Thirumal/Perumal. Where as Murugan, Shiva, Kottravai and Thirumal worship were prevalent. Even in the original version Valmiki ramayana, the Rama was just a hero, not a god Even in Pallava and Chola times (1400 to 1000 years before), though Rama was considered as incarnation of Thirumal, there is no dedicated temple for Rama or Krishna
@@vanisridhar5509 Everyone are vellalars if you're from Tulu nadu you're tuluva vellalar,if you're from kongu nadu you're kongu Vellalar, if you're from chozha nadu you're Chozhiya vellalar. Everyone have common ancestors. Vellalars are the descendants of Velirs. We are the true inhabitants of Indus valley. Checkout "Vellalars of Mohanjadharo" book bro. Also refer "studies on proto indo Mediterranean culture" book by Henry Heras there are many references about vellalars. You've should very proud to born as vellalar 🔥🔥🔥
@@Wukong432 No, agamudaiya tuluva Vellalars are Vellalars. But agamudaiyars are not Vellalars. They come under the mukkulathor category along with maravars & kallars. Vellalars = goundars (kongu Vellalars & karkathars) + pillaimar (saiva Vellalars, Karkathars, tuluva Vellalars, soliya Vellalars, veerakudi Vellalars, pandiya Vellalars, kodika pillaimar) + mudaliyar (tuluva Vellalars, thondaimandala saiva Vellalars)+ saiva chetty.
Tamils RAM or Araman is Murugan not Kazarian Jewish 9 Sriram. Khazar Jewish Sriram against Tamilakom, Son of Ravan Indrasiddha killed Ram into pieces using atomic energy bomb.
when he was jewish why todays jewish does not have rams culture. ramayan is 7 laks years old. was there any jewish that time? jewish history started from lsrel just 2024 years old😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@radhamaadhav4609 yes, Bhagavan only for pindaris, Yamnaya steppe Aryans, Khazarian Jewish peoples, Those who supported Ram against war with Ravan, and not for Tamilakom peoples who are indians
Ramayana is a mythical story passed on for centuries. The ruling north holds on this hypothetical story to stay on in supremacy of ruling. The so called "Ram Sethu" Connecting the lands are nothing but natural tectonic movement of plates. Still we find Nautilus, shells found in deep ocean bed around himalayas.
Tamils always worshipped Ram as a beloved god. Ravana as a Tamil king was projected only in the mid-19th century. by the Justice Party predecessors, followed by Dravidian ideologists and some half-baked politicians.
Tamils RAM is Murugan not Kazarian Jewish shikhandi Sriram. Khazar Jewish Sriram against Tamilakom, Son of Ravan Indrasiddha killed Ram into pieces using atomic energy bomb.
Tamils are well aware because rama is a king not god. Like Buddha.. later on the natives of Rama rajya started to worship ram and rama worship started to spread to a greater extent.
Tamil gods are Shiva,murugan indiran,varunan etc Who had existed in this land far far before the arrival of aryans and their Religion. The Aryan Religion mixed with native Religion which formed Hinduism... If you see, the vedic hinduism is very different from south Indian hinduism especially Tamil hinduism. Almost all real native forms are very well preserved!!!
Ramayana epic was spread till south east Asian countries but there are no temples for Ram in those countries. AYYANAR is still worshipped in South India and as Ayya Nayake in Sri Lanka and as GuanYin in China, Malaysia, Singapore and spread across all South East Asian countries till Japan. Japanese inscriptions identify the origin of that God to Sorimuthu AYYANAR temple at Karayar forest in Thirunelveli district Tamilnadu.
Ravana Was Not a Tamil king.. No proof is There. Dravidian miyru pidukis created. That Myth. Read History.. Ranava came Form North and Stole The island
புறம் - ஊன்பொதி பசுங்குடையார்:- கடுந்தெறல் இராமனுடன் புணர் சீதையை வலித்தகை அரக்கன் வௌவிய ஞான்றை, நிலம் சேர்மதர் அணி கண்ட குரங்கின் செம்முகப் பெருங்கிளை இழைப் பொலிந்தா அங்கு அறாஅ அரு நகை இனிது பெற்றிகுமே பொருள்:- இராமனுடன் வந்த சீதையை மிக்க வன்மையுடைய அரக்கனான இராவணன் கவர்ந்துகொண்டு போன சமயத்தில் சீதை கழற்றி எறியக் கீழே விழுந்த அணிகளைக் கண்டெடுத்த குரங்கின் , சிவந்த முகமுடைய மந்திகளான சுற்றம், அந்த அணிகளை அணிந்து விளங்கிக் கண்டவர் நகைத்து மகிழ்ந்தது போல. பெண் குரங்குகளுக்கு (மந்தி) எந்த நகையை எந்த உறுப்பில் அணிய வேண்டும் என்று தெரியாததால் வெவ்வேறு இடங்களில் தாறு மாறாக அணிந்தனவாம்! சிலம்பு: மூவலகும் ஈரடியான் முறைநிரம்பா வகைமுடியத் தாவியசே வடிசேப்பத் தம்பியொடுங் கான்போந்து சோவரணும் போர்மடியத் தொல்லிலங்கை கட்டழித்த சேவகன்சீர் கேளாத செவி என்ன செவியே இராம நாமம் கேட்காத செவி இ௫ந்தென்ன பயன் என இளங்கோவடிகள் கூறுகிறார். இவை இரண்டும் ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பே இராமரை வணங்கிய தமிழர்களால் எழுதப்பட்ட தமிழ் இலக்கியங்கள். திராவிடியா குரூப்பிற்க்கும் அவர்களைப் பின்பற்றும் திராவிடியாப் பயல்களுக்கும் இப்படி கமெண்ட் ஸெக்ஷனில் கதறுவதுப் போல் வரலாறைத் திரித்து மக்களை முட்டாளாக்கத்தான் தெரியும்
The whole indian scriptures and literature are heavily influenced by Mahabharata and Ramayana till date , But we need to draw a line between myths and history Till date we don't have any clear explanation for vaanaram part . Why the composer of Ramayana refer southerners as vanara . Feel some racist shit going on this
They referred Vanara as people living in forest only in Northern Karnataka region. Not the whole south india. Infact they mentioned about Cholas , Cheras and Pandyas and a kingdom called Kavatam and it's beauty ( This is where 2nd tamil sangam took place )
தமிழ் ஐம்பெரும் காப்பியங்களுள் ஒன்றான மணிமேகலையில் இராமர் பற்றிய செய்தி "நெடியோன் மயங்கி நிலமிசைத் தோன்றி அடல் அரு முந்நீர் அடைத்த ஞான்று குரங்கு கொணர்ந்து எறிந்த நெடு மலை எல்லாம் அணங்கு உடை அளக்கர் வயிறு புக்காங்கு இட்டது ஆற்றாக் கட்டு அழல் கடும் பசிப் பட்டேன் என் தன் பழ வினைப் பயத்தால்" - மணிமேகலை. திருமால் மயக்கத்தால் நிலமிசை இராமனாகத் தோன்றி வெல்லுதற்கரிய கடலை அடைத்த பொழுது,குரங்குகள் கொண்டுவந்து வீசிய பெரிய மலைகளெல்லாம்,வருத்தந் தரும் கடலின் வயிற்றினுள்ளே புகுந்தாற்போல இட்ட உணவுகளால் தணியாத அழல்போன்ற கொடிய பசியை என்னுடைய முன்னை வினைப்பயனால் அடைந்தேன் என்ற வரிகளால் குரங்குகளின் உதவியால் இராமர் பாலம் கட்டப்பட்ட செய்தியை மணிமேகலை பதிவு செய்கிறது...!
Tamilians and rama have no relation...even no where proof is available,that rama one guy is lived....just story... tamilians worshipped shivan and muruga...they communicated each other in tamil...its prooved...and both are tamil god....rama is king as per story...no proof is available in this world , like that one guy lived ...its story and many peoples trusting....but still ariyans not like , tamilians have different identity, upto narendra....but tamilians prayed nature , not human, avai pulavi kaattiya murugan tamilan. .... tamilians and rama have no relation
😂😂 what a joke cholas themselves witten in bronze cheppadu that they claim they are from ishvakku descendants that is from rama's family read the history know about that cheppadu
இது வரை இராமபிரான் வடநாட்டு கடவுள் தமிழர்களுக்கு சம்மந்தம் இல்லை என்று சொன்ன டுமீல் தேசிய வியாதிகளுக்கு இப்போது சங்க நூல்களில் இராமபிரான் உள்ளதை சொன்னவுடன் ஏற்க மனம் மறுக்கிறது.. நெஞ்சம் குமுறுகிறது 😂 இதை சமாளிக்கு இப்போது தமிழர் முப்பாட்டன் அராமன் வேரு யூத பிராமண ராம் வேறு என்று புது கதையை உருவாக்கி உள்ளார்கள்.. இன்னைம் சில ஆண்டுகளில் ராவணனை தூக்கி போட்டுவிட்டு இராமபிரானை முப்பாட்டன் ஆக்கினாலும் ஆச்சரியம் இல்லை.. 😂 மூளையற்ற முட்டா பசங்க தானே எத சொன்னாலும் நம்புவானுங்க 😂 சங்க நூல்கள் தொடங்கி பக்தி நூல்கள் வரை எங்குமே ராவணன் போற்றப்படவில்லை... ஆனால் இராமபிரான் போற்றப்பட்டுள்ளார்.. இராமர் தமிழர்கள் விரும்பி வணங்கிய காவியத் தலைவன்..
@@சgத் இராமர் கடவுள் என்றால் ????? சூர்பனை தங்களை மானாக மாறியதை தெரிந்து கொள்ள வில்லை?!!? இராமன் கடவுள் என்றாள் ?!!!!! எதற்கு அனுமான் சீதையை தேடி அலைந்தார்?!?
During rama, mahabaratham period what languages is there? And ram is the first chola king. Now the north indian peoples was mostly celebrating the Rama. so what, ram is Tamil god not only lord ram. During that period there is no collaboration in language. After some period it's mixed with lot of languages. There are plenty of miscorrections are there in history and puranas. Because of the north indian peoples, they are convert it into there own way of today's life. They are climbing that all without any basic evidence Tamil is not only exist in this landscape called India it was spreaded into the world Tamil was using in lot of languages. Example : In English cash is the word barrowed from Tamil word kasu that means money.
Wow what a contraversial topic. It is said that thamizh is one of the oldest living languages. Saivism is said to have existed from time immorial. In this talk it is said that the legend of R😢 7:34 ama is post sungam period. Some say that Ayodhya may have never existed. Are these folk tales or legends. Lots of great thamizh was side stepped and not recognised. The west also gave recognition to Sanskrit. Now most people and reasearchers are acknowledging the greatness of the thamizh language and history. Long life Our great Mother thamizh.🙏❤
Ram and Krishna belong to Ancient South Asian hunter-gatherers, which is why their skin tone is black. Aryans hijacked them with blue paint. Everyone should celebrate Ram
Ram and Krishna legends are written when Vedic peoples lived in the Gangetic Plains, but Parasurama must have been written when they moved towards the south near Vindhya Range.
Ramayana is a myth...A legend...Flying monkeys, flying chariots, Hanuman lifting a mountain, Humans and monkeys shapeshifting, Ravana having ten heads, a talking vulture...etc It sounds like a work of fiction to me
Puranas happend in a age where giants demigods angels fairies etc used to share planet earth with himans. The environment living condition ecology in Kaliyuga age we live is different from other Yugas. This is thw reason we cannot beleive such events. Human civilization is much older than we thought.
@@dodoraptor8387 Tru it's like fiction & fake tale. But in Sri Lankan Ramayanam is a mandatory subject for Tamil syllabus students... The book contain with 99 poems & Each of them about 10 to 12 lines. They give 10 marks for one & only question end of 2 years study... Major point is... It's not in Tamil but we don't know what's that language is 😭 Actually it's crime. because the answer must be in Tamil. Any way I by heart all 99 poems in the original language and translation must be Tamil. I participate a debate about Ramayana & I won the debate pointing.... If Raman is God then how come he has Father name is Thasarathan. 2. Surpana tricking Sitha with magic move But Raman didn't know it's black magic. 3. Elskuwan trying to catch the golden dear but Raman ( God) didn't know it's tricky move. Raman used mulier weapon to kill Ravanan Finally.. God Raman didn't know who kidnap SITA 😅 and he deploy Hanuman .... Hanuman find her in Sri Lanka then he brake the land and took Sitha back to India by flying. But Hanuman not a bird to fly.
@@velayudhamnagamani3765Firstly , your Dravidia leaders may forgotten to tell you people that Ravana was well-learned in Vedas (written in Sanskrit), and that period could before Great flood and Massive Volcano eruption happened millilenums before. What evidence do you have of Tamil language exist during g that era? Any there any ancient literature describing Ravana being a Dravidian?
@@gabrielemmanuel36can you find the meaning of Vedas, Sanskrit ? These are Tamil words. Rama was king of dynasty AY. Ay's rama was called as ayodhya rama by Ratnakar (valmiki) who lived just 3k years ago. Know history first.
Ram is Khazarian Jewish man, he was not king he was only commander of Khazarian kingdom, he came to conquer Tamilakom but failed and killed by Ravan son Indrasiddha. Valmiki wrote Ravaneeyam and not Ramayana
Ram's north indian politics won't work in tamilnadu.in tamilanadu ,we have siru deivam which is our ancestors and murugan is the only peru deivam from tamilnadu.dravidian who are accept aryanic ideology ,they'll call them as monkey(hanuman).dravidian who oppose aryanic ideology, called as ravana,asura,chanda. Tamil has certain rules like a religion which all comes from poetries and books like kural,purananooru but in north, whatever aryans said that is the rules.thats why namboothiri sex with kerala kings wife first before the king thats how kerala become control of namboothiri and nayar.namboothiri can sex with any women whenever he can.that is not happens in Tamil Nadu.❤
@@SaffronKnight-i9t every religion has some flaws even solomon has 700 wives.but aryanic (iranian) religion has more deadly venom than others.in this film script,brahmin and aryanicc slaves has powers others has to lick their feet.sati,horse sex with women,no body allows to learn.dharma teaches women,drums and untouchables has to be beated. Nobody can be a priest other than iranian blood and many more
@@mohamedyasin7577 As usual half baked rambling from a Chuslim 😂 Tamils are Hindus , Tamils accepted Vedas and Itihasas of Sanskrit which is evident in our Sangam Literature.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg first you prove its interpolated.. oru visayam default ah iruku nu nambuna adhu illai nu solravanga dhan 1st prove pannanum... So you give.. ungalku set aana original.. set aagala na utserugal nu solradhu romba thappu 😂
which sangam litreature did ramayan mentiond,,dont distort history by stupid lies,,,kamabar a brahmin translated ramayan in later period around 10 to 11 th century,,,,,
@sivagamisekar1889 Dravidian political ingredients are partly Marxist and blue pill Woke western copypaste exaggeration,only half baked could accept their cinematic reasonings
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wgThe word Hindu doesn't arise in any so called Hindu sacred text such as Vedas Upanishads The word sanatan dharma doesn't have any eloborate explanation in Any Hindu text😂😂😂
Keeladi Proof that there was No Tamil before 2500 yrs. And that Pandian Kings Started Tamil Sangam to Translate Sanskrit Language Scripts and add more from their own. Tamil Language was Built On Sanskrit Language Only. Even the Word "Sangam" is from Sanskrit Language Only and Not Tamil Language.
An excellent exposure ! No North - South divide in ancient times in India ! People with vested interests, distorted Indian History !
What is north south divide ?
The divide / difference is language families .
u baa dont distort history
@@prempiaaaron What history do you mean is distorted ?
As per some entertainers, Brahmins are Jews, and Brahmana Ravana is Tamil King. Vaaththaa logic 😂
nobidy claims like that some tharkuri caste and religious ftamil fanatics do
😂😂 the whole valmiki ramayana was mythology.Then how u saying ravana was a Brahmin.No one knew the past.
Jai Shri Ram ❤
Rama worship is not there in Tamil Nadu, only few Bharamin community worship rama and krishna. In Tamil nadu, Tamilian worship Perumal (Vishnu) instead of worshiping rama or krishna
It's thirumal or mayon.
Apo Purananuru Agananuru Silapathikaram la Raman ah paadunavanga Aazhvargal Ramar ku kovil kattuna Pallava Cholargal lam duplicate tamilan ah?
@@சgத் please read my comment properly. From Sangam literatures (which is 2000 to 2300 years before) Tamil people knew about Ramayana, but no where its mentioned that they worship Rama as a God or incarnation of Thirumal/Perumal. Where as Murugan, Shiva, Kottravai and Thirumal worship were prevalent. Even in the original version Valmiki ramayana, the Rama was just a hero, not a god
Even in Pallava and Chola times (1400 to 1000 years before), though Rama was considered as incarnation of Thirumal, there is no dedicated temple for Rama or Krishna
Appo Krishnar ah kumbudura tamil kudigal lam enga irrunthu vanthom athila irrunthu aayar makkal Krishnar ah kumbudurom ramar than enga kula munnor nu cholar gal athuvum rajaraja ku Munna irruntha cholargal ah solli irrukanganu manar mannan pola tamil aaivalargal solli irrukanga istathuku unaku kumbud kasatama irruntha kumbudatha atha vitutu Ella tamizhar Kum nee than mouth piece nu pesatha
Perumal is the secret of Vedas is quoted in one of the Sangam scripture. That means Perumal is same as Vishnu. Check Paripadal, iii: 63-68
Bro need a video about vellalars who are they what is their origin. What is difference between kongu Vellalar,tuluva vellalar,vellala pillai,etc
Tuluva Vellalars use both pillai and mudaliyar tittle
@@vanisridhar5509 ok bro 👍. Kongu Vellalars have Gounder title. Are agamudaiyars vellalars ?
@@vanisridhar5509 Everyone are vellalars if you're from Tulu nadu you're tuluva vellalar,if you're from kongu nadu you're kongu Vellalar, if you're from chozha nadu you're Chozhiya vellalar. Everyone have common ancestors. Vellalars are the descendants of Velirs. We are the true inhabitants of Indus valley. Checkout "Vellalars of Mohanjadharo" book bro. Also refer "studies on proto indo Mediterranean culture" book by Henry Heras there are many references about vellalars. You've should very proud to born as vellalar 🔥🔥🔥
@@Wukong432 No, agamudaiya tuluva Vellalars are Vellalars. But agamudaiyars are not Vellalars. They come under the mukkulathor category along with maravars & kallars.
Vellalars = goundars (kongu Vellalars & karkathars) + pillaimar (saiva Vellalars, Karkathars, tuluva Vellalars, soliya Vellalars, veerakudi Vellalars, pandiya Vellalars, kodika pillaimar) + mudaliyar (tuluva Vellalars, thondaimandala saiva Vellalars)+ saiva chetty.
@@vanisridhar5509 ok bro 👍. Some of them claiming that they're also vellalars that's why.
First of all, BJP must thank this channel. 🤣🤣🤣
Tamils RAM or Araman is Murugan not Kazarian Jewish 9 Sriram.
Khazar Jewish Sriram against Tamilakom, Son of Ravan Indrasiddha killed Ram into pieces using atomic energy bomb.
when he was jewish why todays jewish does not have rams culture. ramayan is 7 laks years old. was there any jewish that time?
jewish history started from lsrel just 2024 years old😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@sivagamisekar1889exactly these people think south Indians are fools
Lord Ram is Bhagavan ❤jai shree Ram
@@radhamaadhav4609 yes, Bhagavan only for pindaris, Yamnaya steppe Aryans, Khazarian Jewish peoples, Those who supported Ram against war with Ravan, and not for Tamilakom peoples who are indians
Yes
RAM RAM RAM
Raman and ravanan, both names sounds like twins name right. Think, think think...
Ramayana is a mythical story passed on for centuries.
The ruling north holds on this hypothetical story to stay on in supremacy of ruling.
The so called "Ram Sethu" Connecting the lands are nothing but natural tectonic movement of plates. Still we find Nautilus, shells found in deep ocean bed around himalayas.
Tamils always worshipped Ram as a beloved god. Ravana as a Tamil king was projected only in the mid-19th century. by the Justice Party predecessors, followed by Dravidian ideologists and some half-baked politicians.
No.its fake news, in tamilnadu no one worshipped rama....tamilians god muruga shiva...they communicated in tamil......rama is one king, not a god....
Tamils RAM is Murugan not Kazarian Jewish shikhandi Sriram.
Khazar Jewish Sriram against Tamilakom, Son of Ravan Indrasiddha killed Ram into pieces using atomic energy bomb.
Tamils are well aware because rama is a king not god. Like Buddha.. later on the natives of Rama rajya started to worship ram and rama worship started to spread to a greater extent.
Tamil gods are Shiva,murugan indiran,varunan etc
Who had existed in this land far far before the arrival of aryans and their Religion.
The Aryan Religion mixed with native Religion which formed Hinduism...
If you see, the vedic hinduism is very different from south Indian hinduism especially Tamil hinduism.
Almost all real native forms are very well preserved!!!
Ramayana epic was spread till south east Asian countries but there are no temples for Ram in those countries. AYYANAR is still worshipped in South India and as Ayya Nayake in Sri Lanka and as GuanYin in China, Malaysia, Singapore and spread across all South East Asian countries till Japan. Japanese inscriptions identify the origin of that God to Sorimuthu AYYANAR temple at Karayar forest in Thirunelveli district Tamilnadu.
வாழ்க இராவணப் பேருந்தகை
வாழ்க தமிழ் மன்னன் இராமன் ஜெய் ஸ்ரீராம் 🔥🔥🔥 தற்குறி புறநானூறு அகநானூறு மணிமேகலை படிடா இராமனே தமிழர்களின் முப்பாட்டன்
womanaisers leader😂😂😂
jai sriram❤
"உடன் புணர் சீதையை வலித்தகை அரக்கன்"
- புறநானூறு
இந்த அரக்கன் தான் உன் முப்பாட்டனா 😂
அது பெருந்தகை. Muthalil thamizhai pizhai indri ezhuthu pin ravananukku fire vidalaam bhuvanfire
Ravana Was Not a Tamil king.. No proof is There. Dravidian miyru pidukis created. That Myth. Read History.. Ranava came Form North and Stole The island
புறம் - ஊன்பொதி பசுங்குடையார்:-
கடுந்தெறல் இராமனுடன் புணர் சீதையை
வலித்தகை அரக்கன் வௌவிய ஞான்றை,
நிலம் சேர்மதர் அணி கண்ட குரங்கின்
செம்முகப் பெருங்கிளை இழைப் பொலிந்தா அங்கு
அறாஅ அரு நகை இனிது பெற்றிகுமே
பொருள்:- இராமனுடன் வந்த சீதையை மிக்க வன்மையுடைய அரக்கனான இராவணன் கவர்ந்துகொண்டு போன சமயத்தில் சீதை கழற்றி எறியக் கீழே விழுந்த அணிகளைக் கண்டெடுத்த குரங்கின் , சிவந்த முகமுடைய மந்திகளான சுற்றம், அந்த அணிகளை அணிந்து விளங்கிக் கண்டவர் நகைத்து மகிழ்ந்தது போல.
பெண் குரங்குகளுக்கு (மந்தி) எந்த நகையை எந்த உறுப்பில் அணிய வேண்டும் என்று தெரியாததால் வெவ்வேறு இடங்களில் தாறு மாறாக அணிந்தனவாம்!
சிலம்பு: மூவலகும் ஈரடியான் முறைநிரம்பா வகைமுடியத்
தாவியசே வடிசேப்பத் தம்பியொடுங் கான்போந்து
சோவரணும் போர்மடியத் தொல்லிலங்கை கட்டழித்த
சேவகன்சீர் கேளாத செவி என்ன செவியே
இராம நாமம் கேட்காத செவி இ௫ந்தென்ன பயன் என இளங்கோவடிகள் கூறுகிறார்.
இவை இரண்டும் ஈராயிரம் ஆண்டுகளுக்கு முன்பே இராமரை
வணங்கிய தமிழர்களால் எழுதப்பட்ட தமிழ் இலக்கியங்கள்.
திராவிடியா குரூப்பிற்க்கும் அவர்களைப் பின்பற்றும் திராவிடியாப் பயல்களுக்கும் இப்படி கமெண்ட் ஸெக்ஷனில் கதறுவதுப் போல் வரலாறைத் திரித்து மக்களை முட்டாளாக்கத்தான் தெரியும்
Who said these are 2000 years old ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg because these are written during sangam period
@@karthikeyan0813 These were dated scientifically ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg yes, that's why they comes under sangam period
@@karthikeyan0813 By whom and when dated. ?
The whole indian scriptures and literature are heavily influenced by Mahabharata and Ramayana till date ,
But we need to draw a line between myths and history
Till date we don't have any clear explanation for vaanaram part .
Why the composer of Ramayana refer southerners as vanara . Feel some racist shit going on this
Vanara does not mean monkey. It is a problem of etymology and symbolism. Vanara simply means people living in Vana.
They referred Vanara as people living in forest only in Northern Karnataka region. Not the whole south india.
Infact they mentioned about Cholas , Cheras and Pandyas and a kingdom called Kavatam and it's beauty ( This is where 2nd tamil sangam took place )
தமிழ் ஐம்பெரும் காப்பியங்களுள் ஒன்றான மணிமேகலையில் இராமர் பற்றிய செய்தி
"நெடியோன் மயங்கி நிலமிசைத் தோன்றி
அடல் அரு முந்நீர் அடைத்த ஞான்று
குரங்கு கொணர்ந்து எறிந்த நெடு மலை எல்லாம் அணங்கு உடை அளக்கர் வயிறு புக்காங்கு இட்டது ஆற்றாக் கட்டு அழல் கடும் பசிப் பட்டேன் என் தன் பழ வினைப் பயத்தால்"
- மணிமேகலை.
திருமால் மயக்கத்தால் நிலமிசை இராமனாகத் தோன்றி வெல்லுதற்கரிய கடலை அடைத்த பொழுது,குரங்குகள் கொண்டுவந்து வீசிய பெரிய மலைகளெல்லாம்,வருத்தந் தரும் கடலின் வயிற்றினுள்ளே புகுந்தாற்போல இட்ட உணவுகளால் தணியாத அழல்போன்ற கொடிய பசியை என்னுடைய முன்னை வினைப்பயனால் அடைந்தேன் என்ற வரிகளால் குரங்குகளின் உதவியால் இராமர் பாலம் கட்டப்பட்ட செய்தியை மணிமேகலை பதிவு செய்கிறது...!
Tamilians and rama have no relation...even no where proof is available,that rama one guy is lived....just story... tamilians worshipped shivan and muruga...they communicated each other in tamil...its prooved...and both are tamil god....rama is king as per story...no proof is available in this world , like that one guy lived ...its story and many peoples trusting....but still ariyans not like , tamilians have different identity, upto narendra....but tamilians prayed nature , not human, avai pulavi kaattiya murugan tamilan. .... tamilians and rama have no relation
There are proof that tamils have relationship with Ram thatwise some tamil scholars saying that ram is tamil king Aryan stolen his story
Rama lived but he is a king not a god..
People started to worship him and made him as god
😂😂 what a joke cholas themselves witten in bronze cheppadu that they claim they are from ishvakku descendants that is from rama's family read the history know about that cheppadu
@@rockythebranDonexactly.
There is no proof for Shiva and Murugan too.. where did you get their proof?😂
இது வரை இராமபிரான் வடநாட்டு கடவுள் தமிழர்களுக்கு சம்மந்தம் இல்லை என்று சொன்ன டுமீல் தேசிய வியாதிகளுக்கு இப்போது சங்க நூல்களில் இராமபிரான் உள்ளதை சொன்னவுடன் ஏற்க மனம் மறுக்கிறது.. நெஞ்சம் குமுறுகிறது 😂 இதை சமாளிக்கு இப்போது தமிழர் முப்பாட்டன் அராமன் வேரு யூத பிராமண ராம் வேறு என்று புது கதையை உருவாக்கி உள்ளார்கள்.. இன்னைம் சில ஆண்டுகளில் ராவணனை தூக்கி போட்டுவிட்டு இராமபிரானை முப்பாட்டன் ஆக்கினாலும் ஆச்சரியம் இல்லை.. 😂 மூளையற்ற முட்டா பசங்க தானே எத சொன்னாலும் நம்புவானுங்க 😂
சங்க நூல்கள் தொடங்கி பக்தி நூல்கள் வரை எங்குமே ராவணன் போற்றப்படவில்லை... ஆனால் இராமபிரான் போற்றப்பட்டுள்ளார்.. இராமர் தமிழர்கள் விரும்பி வணங்கிய காவியத் தலைவன்..
Yes it is kaaviyam ( kathai ) , not history.
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Religion need not to be history.. idk when did rationality and spirituality mixed 😂
@@சgத் Did I say so ?
@@சgத்thrukural,manimekalai, silapathikaram,pura nanooru other all Tamil literature la ellam,variku vari Ramana pathi than iruku.
@@சgத்
இராமர் கடவுள் என்றால் ?????
சூர்பனை தங்களை மானாக மாறியதை தெரிந்து கொள்ள வில்லை?!!?
இராமன் கடவுள் என்றாள் ?!!!!!
எதற்கு அனுமான்
சீதையை தேடி அலைந்தார்?!?
During rama, mahabaratham period what languages is there? And ram is the first chola king. Now the north indian peoples was mostly celebrating the Rama. so what, ram is Tamil god not only lord ram. During that period there is no collaboration in language. After some period it's mixed with lot of languages. There are plenty of miscorrections are there in history and puranas. Because of the north indian peoples, they are convert it into there own way of today's life. They are climbing that all without any basic evidence Tamil is not only exist in this landscape called India it was spreaded into the world Tamil was using in lot of languages. Example : In English cash is the word barrowed from Tamil word kasu that means money.
Wow what a contraversial topic. It is said that thamizh is one of the oldest living languages. Saivism is said to have existed from time immorial. In this talk it is said that the legend of R😢 7:34 ama is post sungam period. Some say that Ayodhya may have never existed. Are these folk tales or legends. Lots of great thamizh was side stepped and not recognised. The west also gave recognition to Sanskrit. Now most people and reasearchers are acknowledging the greatness of the thamizh language and history. Long life Our great Mother thamizh.🙏❤
Why is it that all our tamil kings were demons and north indians kings are
reincarnation of the gods. Makes one think, doesn't it.
@@malarmugammunian5098 In India, folk tales and legends have history. Ram lived, but the Ramayana is a legend.
Ram and Krishna belong to Ancient South Asian hunter-gatherers, which is why their skin tone is black. Aryans hijacked them with blue paint. Everyone should celebrate Ram
@@ilaiyanambi We are mixture of Zagros (Neolithic Iranian farmers)and AASI. You're 💯 percent correct they have twisted our history
@@Wukong432We tamils negroids.only north india has aryanic(iranian gene) more.
If Aryans came from some other land why does Puranas has places rivers landscapes of this Indian land?
@@shivaprakashmyname it's all made up.genes and dna doesn't lie.even God names like Indira,Arya vasta shows that its all from iranian region.
@@Wukong432 dravidians DNA differ from neo iranian dna .it's more similar to African dna.we all know india was once part of Africa.
Ramar, balaramar and krishnar born in uttar pradesh. Why parasuramar not born in UP?
Ram and Krishna legends are written when Vedic peoples lived in the Gangetic Plains, but Parasurama must have been written when they moved towards the south near Vindhya Range.
Ramsees last words நீச்ச பாசா மா எழுக எழுக
NITCHABASA MA ELHA ELHA (Ramsees )
Sabachitini Am hael hael(yesu/Jesu)
Ramayana is a myth...A legend...Flying monkeys, flying chariots, Hanuman lifting a mountain, Humans and monkeys shapeshifting, Ravana having ten heads, a talking vulture...etc It sounds like a work of fiction to me
Exactly! True Ramayanam war happened! BUT true history was purposely re-written to hide the truth! Hence, turn it into a myth of unbelievable tales!
Puranas happend in a age where giants demigods angels fairies etc used to share planet earth with himans. The environment living condition ecology in Kaliyuga age we live is different from other Yugas. This is thw reason we cannot beleive such events. Human civilization is much older than we thought.
@@shivaprakashmyname Mere interpretation !
@@dodoraptor8387
Tru it's like fiction & fake tale.
But in Sri Lankan Ramayanam is a mandatory subject for Tamil syllabus students... The book contain with 99 poems
& Each of them about 10 to 12 lines. They give 10 marks for one & only question end of 2 years study...
Major point is...
It's not in Tamil but we don't know what's that language is 😭
Actually it's crime.
because the answer must be in Tamil.
Any way I by heart all 99 poems in the original language and translation must be Tamil.
I participate a debate about Ramayana & I won the debate pointing....
If Raman is God then how come he has Father name is Thasarathan.
2. Surpana tricking Sitha with magic move
But Raman didn't know it's black magic.
3. Elskuwan trying to catch the golden dear but Raman ( God) didn't know it's tricky move.
Raman used mulier weapon to kill Ravanan
Finally..
God Raman didn't know who kidnap SITA 😅 and he deploy Hanuman ....
Hanuman find her in Sri Lanka then he brake the land and took Sitha back to India by flying. But Hanuman not a bird to fly.
राम मंत्रम में तारकम ।
வெல்க இராவணன் தமிழ் பெரும்பாட்டன் 🙏🏻
பெண் பித்தன் நம் முன்னோராக இருக்க இயலாது.தமிழன் இவ்வளவு கேவலமானவன் இல்லை. அரக்கனும் இல்லை.
a womanaiser cant be our ancester and ratsas.
may be womanaisers leader.
jai sriram
Show me the proof that ravana is a tamil ? Why ravana sung shiv tandav stothram in sanskrit ??
@@TT-xg7qd show me the proof first Sanskrit is a language?
@@sudharshandpitn8635 it's not a language it's a hyms 😂😀 for poetic and singing songs ,.and no tamil poets claim that Ravana is a tamil King 😂😂😂😂
Don't boost mythical stories as this will decrease the credibility of this site
Its resembles with Greek mythology Helan of Troy.
It's RAMAYAN & " NOT RAMAYANA".....what is Ramayana ????
Ramayanam*
It's ramayanam.
Ramayan - is hindi/urdu. Ramayana - kannada.
Ramayanam - sanskrit/tamil/telugu/malayalam
Its Ramayanamana
Its Ramayanamana
The great Tamil king Rama 🔥🔥🔥 Jai Sri Ram 🔥🔥
Thamil king always Ravana
@@velayudhamnagamani3765which book mentioned that ??
@@velayudhamnagamani3765Firstly , your Dravidia leaders may forgotten to tell you people that Ravana was well-learned in Vedas (written in Sanskrit), and that period could before Great flood and Massive Volcano eruption happened millilenums before. What evidence do you have of Tamil language exist during g that era? Any there any ancient literature describing Ravana being a Dravidian?
@@gabrielemmanuel36 where in the 4 vedas there is mentioning about ravanan? simply fabricating stories out of thin air..
@@gabrielemmanuel36can you find the meaning of Vedas, Sanskrit ? These are Tamil words. Rama was king of dynasty AY. Ay's rama was called as ayodhya rama by Ratnakar (valmiki) who lived just 3k years ago. Know history first.
Ram is Khazarian Jewish man, he was not king he was only commander of Khazarian kingdom, he came to conquer Tamilakom but failed and killed by Ravan son Indrasiddha.
Valmiki wrote Ravaneeyam and not Ramayana
அய்யோ பாவம் கலி கண்களை மறைக்கின்றது.
lying in kalidosa
@@sivagamisekar1889 Kaliyuga ended 12 years before, Now it's Satyayuga.
Where u got ur knowledge😅:😅 shame Lord Ram is Bhagavan. All the places of Ramayan still exists. This is our proud history not myth
Kali just begun. It is 4, 32, 000 years only 5000 years of Kali are over. Read Bhagavad Gita and Ramayan and other scriptures
Seri proof kudu 😂
Ram's north indian politics won't work in tamilnadu.in tamilanadu ,we have siru deivam which is our ancestors and murugan is the only peru deivam from tamilnadu.dravidian who are accept aryanic ideology ,they'll call them as monkey(hanuman).dravidian who oppose aryanic ideology, called as ravana,asura,chanda. Tamil has certain rules like a religion which all comes from poetries and books like kural,purananooru but in north, whatever aryans said that is the rules.thats why namboothiri sex with kerala kings wife first before the king thats how kerala become control of namboothiri and nayar.namboothiri can sex with any women whenever he can.that is not happens in Tamil Nadu.❤
Every culture has their dark parts. You guys speak as if aisha was 25
@@SaffronKnight-i9t every religion has some flaws even solomon has 700 wives.but aryanic (iranian) religion has more deadly venom than others.in this film script,brahmin and aryanicc slaves has powers others has to lick their feet.sati,horse sex with women,no body allows to learn.dharma teaches women,drums and untouchables has to be beated. Nobody can be a priest other than iranian blood and many more
@@mohamedyasin7577
As usual half baked rambling from a Chuslim 😂
Tamils are Hindus , Tamils accepted Vedas and Itihasas of Sanskrit which is evident in our Sangam Literature.
This is called uruttu in Tamil 🤣
Tamils never worshipped rama
Apo Sanga ilakkiyam la irukardhu enna da?😂
@@சgத் Sanga ilakkiyathil utcherugal illai endru uruthiyaha cholla mudiyuma ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg Adhu utserugal dhan nu urudhiya solla mudiyuma.?
@@சgத் Adhu utcherugal illai endru urudiysha solla mudiyuma. ?
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg first you prove its interpolated.. oru visayam default ah iruku nu nambuna adhu illai nu solravanga dhan 1st prove pannanum... So you give.. ungalku set aana original.. set aagala na utserugal nu solradhu romba thappu 😂
Ramstein
Baster dmk media😂😂😂😂😂
which sangam litreature did ramayan mentiond,,dont distort history by stupid lies,,,kamabar a brahmin translated ramayan in later period around 10 to 11 th century,,,,,
Those are coral rocks and sand pits..not bridge
*Utter absurdity !*
don,t teach sangam time, sangam also not tamil language .please history wrong people teaching
what? what is this new story
@@sivagamisekar1889 The word sangam does not appear in so called sangam literature !
@sivagamisekar1889 Dravidian political ingredients are partly Marxist and blue pill Woke western copypaste exaggeration,only half baked could accept their cinematic reasonings
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wgThe word Hindu doesn't arise in any so called Hindu sacred text such as Vedas Upanishads
The word sanatan dharma doesn't have any eloborate explanation in Any Hindu text😂😂😂
Typical boomer. Xddd
Keeladi Proof that there was No Tamil before 2500 yrs. And that Pandian Kings Started Tamil Sangam to Translate Sanskrit Language Scripts and add more from their own. Tamil Language was Built On Sanskrit Language Only. Even the Word "Sangam" is from Sanskrit Language Only and Not Tamil Language.
The earliest sanskrit work rig veda itself contains tamil words !
@@tsMuthuraman-hm6wg That's Tamil people's ignorance because of Repeated Fake Propaganda Narratives 🤣.
Tamil is older than Sanskrit. There is archaeological evidence for this.
@@Rajtamizhan What do you mean by PU. ?
Holy Father Jesus Christ Only 😇✝️🙏 கர்த்தர் தாமேன் நம்மை ஆசீர்வதிப்பாராக ஆமென்😇✝️🙏
Poi
😂😂 fake narrative