Logitech G27 vs Logitech Driving Force GT - Comparison Review
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- Опубліковано 3 лют 2016
- My full review and comparison of two iconic wheels from Logitech: The Driving Force GT and the G27.
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Awesome rap, when does the album come out?
XD i’ll buy it when it come out
LOL!
i've had my driving force gt since 2008 and it's still going strong, never been disappointed in it, it's only a little louder than brand new.
BRO I WANT ONE SOOOOO BAF
@@Chrissmf boxed one near me on facebook for £20
@@PatrickSwayzeOnDbol i live in south africa
its shit
@@rikk6080 why
You're on beat with the music lmao
I've owned 3 DFGT's and 1 G27. The potentiometers in the DFGT tend to go after about 40,000 laps. The G27 is bulletproof. But you're review was accurate, and I'd still recommend the DFGT to anyone. Potentiometer replacement isn't that hard, and its only a problem for people who race thousands of hours, or those who let crumbs and debris fall into the space around the pedal housing. The pedal housing around the G27 is more secured.
I had the accelerator potentiometer in my G27 play up, but a $5 can of electrical contact spray fixed it right up. I didn't even have to remove the housings/covers.
I want to compliment you on your reviews. You are enjoyable to listen to (no droning, nasally, squeaky voice) and your reviews sound very genuine. I like how you show the pros and cons of what you are reviewing, and avoid too may superlatives or criticisms. I also like how you don't dismiss, but rather mention with a grain of salt, complaints that some people have made against it, taking into account personal preferences and odd one-off issues some people complain about. Keep up the good work, and thanks for taking the time to make these informative videos.
Thank you for feedback! :)
It sounds like a freestyle xD
LordPedroGrowl ikrrr hahaha
Noice
My driving force GT is coming in 2 days - so excited!
@yoszo Its great!
@avoid Did it detect force feedback with new games? What about the angles when you steer? They're still accurate in new games?
I have owned the DFGT since 2014 and had the following problems relatively soon. Since I only play siquential gear, I had the problem that the right gear lever sometimes didn't work, the right gear lever sometimes shifts two gears up and the left two gears down. The left cross on the steering soon knocked out and worked imprecisely. The vehicles had a flicker on the brake lights, the accelerator pedal got stuck on full throttle.
Thank you for the informative video. Now I know what to do. Driving Force for me!!! Thanks, again.
I definitely heard "porn shops" at 7:42
i guess pawn sounds like porn in his accent lmao
pawn and porn sound the exact same. If you're from Aus anyway.
They are synonymous in Australia if I'm being honest
I went to my local porn shop and can confirm they don't sell these wheels.
wuut this is my first time hearing we say it wrong
let me tell you about DFGT! i have one of those, i use it every day and i have it since 2017 . I modded the pedals to be inverted and the brake now has a big spring and feels almost real. I olso made a sequential metal shifter instead of that little joke that comes with haha and i can say it runs very good , never lost its center or had any problems with it. i bought a thrusmaster t300 alcantara last year and that was a big disappointment because the wheel didn't go all the way to 1080 degrees , i returned it and never bought another. I'll stick to this one until i make a direct drive wheel myself. Now for those who own it and want to upgrade to g27,g29 , just don't!! all of logitech's wheels have the same gear shit system so it's not such a good improvement. The only wheel i would Buy is Fanatec, but i cant afford one now so ... I keep learning how to build one instead.
Sorry but how do you make a sequential shifter? I need one couse my wheel dont have the shifter
Absolutely agree with your review. It's so nice to watch a well made, quick fire review, rather than hours of waffling :-)
Man... In 2021, your video help me take an decision. Thanx from Brazil.
Thanks for the review! I have no interest in drifting, so I got the DFGT and I have to say it's amazing! (I tested the G27 and a friend's house and at least for track racing the difference was minimal)
Nix learn to drift. Even if you are not interested in the ‘jdm drift yo’ FnF vibes it does wonders for your car control. It helped me reduce crashes by 80% in AC driving gt3
@@spoon929 i’ve figured that out too, if i lose control in iracing or nr2003 i’m able to save it much easier
Watching your videos is a pleasure. You made it very professionally.
I used a driving force GT for years. I recently sold it because it doesn't support PS4 ☹️
Anyway I bought a G29 and shifter for €220. I don't know what I was expecting but the difference between the g29 and DFGT is minimum. I feel a bit disappointed as I was expecting more of an upgrade. Sure it's more premium and the pedals are better, but the feedback is practically identical.
When I originally bought the DFGT it blew me away. The G29 is not having that effect on me.
Martin... what you wanna do is save up and get the Accuforce direct drive wheel with 13 nm of torque and base for £550 then get the fanatec v3 pedals for £315 and the fanatec shifter for about £200 I find it the cheapest way to go for some very high quality stuff thats probably going to last u 10yrs+ before you think about swapping anything igot a g27 atm lol but im saving 😎
@@realtalk9195
I don't know if I can afford all that 😊. I've spent €345 in total at the moment. I also got the Wheel stand pro deluxe V2.
I'm getting used to it, it's not as bad as I originally thought. I going to buy Assetto Corsa ultimate edition soon, so that should be an interesting experience.
Martin... Sweet sounds like you got a decent setup. Im still loving my g27 only had it 8 months. I just think there's no point in ever upgrading the weel to a FANATEC which are only belt driven and cost around the same price as the Accuforce direct drive which is a top level machine. Although FANATEC v3 pedals are bad boy they even got vibration motors in the accelerator and brake lol so if you ever upgrade go direct drive mate
I did the opposite, bought a g29 two years ago and got a driving force gt for ps2 games and man the feedback is the same shit practically. Could’ve saved myself $100+ bucks and gotten two of these but then I wouldn’t be able to play ps4 titles
@@smithsfan425 thank you, I don't regret getting gt anymore. Got one for $48 usd
i love how you said that there is a slight noise difference but when you showed the comparison one sounded like a bulldozer where as the other like a respectable modern car
I have the Driving Force GT and it's not that bad, it has a sound but that room has too much eco to show the actual noise that it makes, maybe is not the best to play at 12am but for decent hours is nice and if you play with headphones you don't even notice.
well explained,my DFGT is coming tommorow!
thanks for clarifying :D
Dropped into a Salvo 2nd hand shop the other day looking for random stuff that pops up on their shelves and saw a Driving Force GT box with a $18 sticker on it. Took a gamble as the dude said if it didn't work i could return it within 7 days. Got home and opened it up and as far as i can see it hasn't got a scratch on it and looks new, even had a 4k HDMI cable with it (no idea why but i'll take it lol). Now after a little configuration i have spent the last 3 days cruising around in GTAV with music cranking just driving around re exploring everything with a steering wheel in first person mode. Just getting out on that highway and putting pedal to the metal weaving thru traffic is so fun and i even don't mind the slower pace in the city obeying road rules and traffic flow. 😀
Wow! I am breathess! Excellent stuff! Just snagged a GT off of FB for pennies, looking forward to picking it up!
I feel like you listened to the backing track while you recorded the audio. It is ridiculously on beat, you natural musician you 🤣👍
I adapted the G29 pedals on my DFGT, the experience has changed a lot. for the best of course! As I play more formula games, I am very satisfied with it.
Did you also add a shifter? I'm thinking about making a combo instead of buying the newer wheels.
@@JColt it's gonna be hard unless you're good with modding. You need to add a clutch paddle. From what ive seen in the past, they use a ps3 controller and solder or do something along those lines. After all that modding, you need a separate shifter like a thrustmaster th8a or a modded one. It's gonna be a hassle and $$$.
One of the greatest reviews of all time . Great job mate
I had a Thrustmaster Ferrari Experience that I used for about a year and it was a really great wheel, bought it second hand for around £30, it was a little bit of a cheap wheel but it worked on all of the latest racing titles (Project Cars 2, Assetto Corsa, FH4 etc)
Lovely wheel and all that had loads of fun using it, but one of the biggest gripes with the wheel was the fact it only had 180 degree steering which made it unrealsitic.
I will be honest I should have known more about the LDFG I would have most likely gone for it rather than the TFE as it just logically was way better in every single way.
Even so, I eventually upgraded my TFE to a Logitech G920 with the H-Shifter and so far it hasn't let me down and it feels 100 times better than my Thrustmaster (I could probably list loads of things)
But what may be quite a brain twister is that if I had owned a LDFG rather than a TFE I would have most likely not upgraded until around a few years later even considering that niether have the option of extras such as H-Shifters or Pedal upgrades that some of the more expensive steering wheels have.
Logitech Driving Force GT )))
Ok I can't focus on the actual content anymore, all I can hear is the rap, haha. This is just awesome
Have the dfgt for 2 1/2~ years. Can't regret. All though I have some tips for you if you have some problems with the wheel.
Don't ever overtighten the shifter with a wrench or a socket wrench. (if it falls off or something like that), metal bar...or screw will like crumble up the plastic inside the shifter. (it doesn't affect the performance of the wheel of anything like that.) it's just a "cosmetic" problem. It feels weird at first, but you can get used to it. Loved the wheel. Although the pedal cable was "naked"; the inner cables after the black isolation thing was pulled somehow when i bought it. I think that is my problem. (this causes in pedals like glitching;turning on/off, working not properly.) This is why I am interested in a g27. The noise...the most frustrating part of the wheel. It's so loud that my sister can hear it loud and clear downstairs. And this is the wheel I learned to drift on. This is why i love this wheel so much. Loved to start from 270 degrees to 360 to 540 to 720 to 900. Thanks to LetsTestDrive I learned this method. (because i was driving with a 30$~ crappy wheel with 180 degrees of angle all the time before buying the dfgt.) 8/10 -2 (-1 because of the forcefeedback being a bit frustrating; a bit weak.) (-1 because of the noise level.)
Good review dude, thanks for that.
I've never used the DFGT so the sound comparison was quite an eye opener for me. As you say though, when you have the game sound cranked up, you don't really notice the noise. However, I quite often drive late when everyone is in bed, so the GT may have been an issue for me had I gone that route.
+Tux McBea Which wheel did you grab? I feel your pain though. Although the wheel is quieter, changing gears at anything faster than grandma pace can cause a bit of a racket.
I bought the G27. To be fair, it isn't "that" noisy and I tend to use paddles anyway, but by comparison from your video, the DFGT would probably upset 'er indoors! XD
I found a dfgt at a thrift store for $15.00!
Bargain!
My buddies wife got one at a garage sale for $10 but it doesn't work for his PS4 so he gave it to me.. :)
Steven Doherty Got one for 3$ in box with packaging and sold it for 85 couldnt drift. Saved up to 143$ and bought a g27, so easier to drift for some reason ;)
Lucky bastards :(
I just bought one off Amazon for $130. Tho still cheaper than the G25/29 at like, $300+
Christopher Tenzwood dude. Just buy second hand g25, those things are indestructible. Im picking mine up for $100
Someone's been using Cockpit Shine!! xD Nice vid. I had a DFGT for 4 years. i still have it because it's too knackered to sell. The gearing/belt on the inside is slipping which means after 15 mins of play the wheel is pointing at 1 o'clock in order to go straight. Had to keep unplugging to re-calibrate. I upgraded to G27 and the first thing I notice was how much smoother it is - less notchy, and the pedals are infinitely better. I do miss the horn button on the DFGT tho' !!!
+RTR - Banger I didn't use ANY shine, I swear! Must have been the lighting :x If that was happening to my wheel I'd be taking it apart and seeing if there are any loose or dirty connections. After that many years something may have just come loose and needs a tighten up.
your reviews are super..keep it up.. I am looking the GT too...Wish there would be xone support too
I have the G27 and G290 and there awesome and great vid btw
very well produced video!
just picked up a logitech driving force gt today for 3$ dollars at the goodwill and it works great!! pedals power supply and wheel
I still have my Driving force gt. It does the job for now. Planing on getting a g29
Should do a video on the Logitech momo wheel
I got a driving force for 40$ and i mainly use it for ETS2 and ATS . Occasionaly MSC and it works super great with those games
I have a Genius Twinwheel F1 that I got in '13, which developed twitching issues a few months ago. Seeing the dfgt was the same price used is disappointing
Got my G27 today for $200 after the gumtree suggestion, (Cheers) was considering the DFGT but figured the clutch & shifter would be more future proof, either would have been a decent upgrade over my old 180° DF but i couldnt be happier with the G27, especially because i was toying with the idea of buying a G29 before seeing this video
Mine for 150$ second hand
Thanks dude. It helped me a lot :)
Great video m8!
I own both and got G27 yesterday
I've watched this video like a million times already, and I understand what it is about. But your content is just so good I keep coming back!
CEX in the UK got the DFGT doen to £42 at the moment ;)
Bought a brand new DFGT in singapore for about AUD65. Pretty worth it still!
How's it holding up after 2 years? Did you buy another wheel later on?
just picked up DFGT for AU$20 - i didnt know it existed and was about to drop $350 on a G29 or G920. will be great to test the waters!! I wish i had done something like this with HOTAS before my $230 X52 sat on shelf gathering dust XD oops
Nice video. I want G27 because i want to feel like a drive a real car. Thanks man!
Thank you man! :)
Love my G27. Picked it up with pedals and shifter for $100 locally.
$100? Lucky. In my country they sell it for $200-225. Even g29 is sold for $150-200
My father bought the logitech dfgt in 2011 and i still have it and it still works perfectly
Nice video, thanks for the comparison :D That DFGT sound is so lovely, can't wait to get one after my finals. Do you think that people in the opposing could sleep when I play with it at night or is it that loud?
I have a DFGT, CSR pedals, and TH8A shifter for playing truck simulators. I only use my G27 for things like Gran Turismo.
Great combo! The amount of easily accessible buttons on the DFGT definitely give it an advantage for the ETS series of games.
I know I'm very late to the video but I recently picked up a used g27 on gumtree for $150 as well, only fault was that the shift cap falls off due to the clips being broken
Pretty nice video/review... I have dfgt, I have made myself new pedals and h-shifter, and I dont care the least bit about drifting... good to know I wont have any use of the G27 i guess :D
+s217313 Damn, nice! I had a look at a few DIY pedals/h shifters, but I thought they would end up costing more than the G27 I picked up. You should put a video/pics up of it :P
I cannot find the tool to make my Driving Force GT with Forza Horion 3 & Forza Horizon 4.. the forum keep telling ACCESS DENiED... is there a way to have the program to make it work on Windows 10 ..? Thanks in advance
Ahh my time is done with the DFGT, I neeeeed the G27
get an joystick and use it as an handbrake for the g27
+caddy That's definitely the easiest option.
and the cheapest one
+caddy Get a keyboard and use space as handbreak
Mehmet Cumhur nope,better use an button from the shifter as the handbrake
Found a DRiving Force GT brand new on craigslist for $50 Score!
surprisingly the DFGT is just as good when it comes to FFB strength. but obviously loses in terms of pedals and shifter
Sound like rapping on beat
Alright, so I currently have a DFGT and have had one for about a year. I enjoy sim racing a lot and would like to pick up a wheel with a clutch and H shifter. However, the g27 seems very expensive nowadays and i'm wondering about the g25 being a good alternative. Just looking for some help.
Robert Henry I’m in the exact same situation lol
Have you ever had a problem with the g27 where after it calibrates it moves slightly off kilter and as you turn it goes more off center? If so,do you have a fix? I'm having that problem atm.
Go full rotation lock to lock on either sides
i use a logitech extreme 3d pro as an ebrake....i face it towards me (opposite if i fly) and pull down on it and it works like charm
i WISH some1 would use the internals of a flight stick to make an H pattern because moving it around pretending to shift feels far more natural
Drift settings for G27?
Ok which one is better for trucking simulator i thought I heard you mention ATS im not a racer sim just a trucking and need a upgrade for better feel/experience
Will the dfgt be fine for rally car games such as dirt rally. Or is there a better option. Im would probably prefer a all round combo so i could maybe latter get into other racing sims such as iracing
+Harrison Sloan Both of these "wheels" are absolutely fine, the deciding factor really comes down to whether YOU want a h pattern shifter + clutch.
Всё чётко сказано. Спасибо за помощь в выборе!
DFGT + Fanatec pedals + Fanatec shifter + Use the DFGT shifter for handbrake
Shits good.
i have DFGT + Th8a shifter + DIY clutch + DFGT shifter as handbrake
+pepe the frog no reason buy an expensive Logitech because they are shit anyway lol
No point in going cheap really. If you already have the DFGT you can slowly upgrade to Fanatec/Thrustmaster etc with your own preferred setup
Logitech wheels just don't have enough power, really. I drift in sims and like to use 900 degrees when possible and Logitech wheels do not have enough power to return *without* assists.
Cody Herbert To be honest, allot of games cant make the wheel come back, even if a wheel is more powerful. Games like Assetto Corsa and LFS utilise the full power for the g27, if you go past the full power of a g27 you could strain your wrist easily.
Profiler settings for g27 drifting in corsa?
Interesting. I plan on buying a DFGT for approximately 40€. I'ee Seen a G27 for 150€. It seem a good price. But it's too expensive for me right now.
Omfgg what's the wire called for the small circle with 1 pin sticking out link it I dk what it's called
I wish I knew the DF GT existed T_T I got some shitty trust wheel (seems like the clone of the GT) for the same price as a used df gt. I am now finally upgrading to the g27.
1:22 pls tell me mod for rfactor!!!
DFGT is just too noisy. G27 is a workhorse and feels great in AC.
I was one of those who complained about G27 making noise. ppl said G27 not well suited to AC and advised to go for better wheel. I also went online seeking help for best FFB settings for AC.
But over time, I improved and found that sweet spot setting for G27 in AC. Most online advice say to keep road effects off since it is one of the causes of noisy wheel but I found that's rubbish. I set Road Effects - 8. Curb Effects 2. Minimum force - 15. AC now feels like magic and no more alarming noise form heavy FFB. It' pretty much perfect.
Left hand shifter placement or right hand? well if you're right handed I'd Recommend the left hand placement if you're left handed I'd recommend the right hand placement, if you're like me and can work with either side don't bother caring, if you're used to right hand seat manual cars then I'd probably go for that setup, (yes not all cars are built with left hand side driver seats)
I have a drive force gt is it worth me getting the g27?
In Assetto Corsa the steering deadzone has no affect, but in ETS and ATS it is very annoying since on highway drive i'm usually in that deadzone and slight steering adjustments can be very choppy since you have to center the wheel yourselfy Otherwise the FFB is pretty smooth, except in ETS and ATS but thats the games fault.
I like that it has so many buttons, the fake leather is a huge upgrade from the rubber rim on my F430 and the pedals are great too. In my opinion all wheels are slightly overpriced, for what it is the G27 shouldn't have been 300 dollars. I totally understand Fanatecs higher price but Logitech and Thrustmaster wheels could use a price adjustment. We used to call our friends DFGT Dead Cat since it's so lound kinda what it sounded like lol
+Penta YOOO I remember taking a LONG time to set up the FFB in ETS with my DFGT, it felt way too light in the center until I changed something (Can't remember what), but I just copied over my settings and it seemed identical/minimal deadzone. You could always try my settings, as if you're good in AC it's definitley an ETS setting issue.
LetsTestDrive The thing is since in games like DiRT Rally and AC you gay way faster so you wont notice it as much. It seems though that on ETS the deadzone is a big bigger, it also could be my wheel
Do either wheel work with the ps4?
The GT driving Force is almost the same of the GT2000 a spec wheel for Ps2
perfect video!
what settings you use for dgft in game and in Logitech profiler to drift and any race ?
My full settings for the DFGT in the profiler and AC can be found in the description section of this video: ua-cam.com/video/sNdEPrm2_E0/v-deo.html
Thank's ! :-)
Great vid, except for the rage faces. And boy, a $50 used G27? I spent $70 for my DFGT, I guess I'll have to import one to Indonesia from somewhere...
The rage faces will stay with me forever.
does it work with city car driving?
Good videos. Technical question on this interface aspect in particular: Is it realistic to use the G27 setup to teach a young person how to drive before real-life manual clutch (stick-shift) gearchanges, and conversely, can I make it go into a mode that 'ignores' the clutch pedal so I can drive myself in games, as if with automatic transmission? I have discovered, my health condition is exacerbated and indeed almost caused, by manual gearchange cars (hip & joint problems/sciatica/back problems), and so in real life only drive auto xmission cars. However, it might be best if our daughters learned manual changes. What's your opinion? The clutch etc action realistic enough to make it a decent introduction to real-world hand-foot coordination and so on? Like when it 'bites'? Also, thanks, I Enjoyed and found useful the other vids on Asetto Corsa and rfactor2, because EA and Apple are combining forces to kill Real Racing 3 on my ipad 4! For myself, obvs, I would just get the DF GT setup, but with eldest being on the 'edge of seventeen', it changes the reasons for buying slightly.
I think the G27 would be great at teaching an up and coming driver the "basics" of muscle memory when driving and shifting through a manual. One thing it can't do is teach the smoothness/fluidity needed when shifting at normal road driving speeds.
As you'd know it takes a certain finesse to change gears smoothly without the car jolting/jumping/jarring/etc but in all the games I've played you can be pretty rough/fast/sloppy with the clutch and shifter and it will make no difference. Maybe it's different for guys who use motion rigs, as they may be getting feedback via jolts for bad/mistimed gear changes, but I'm not sure.
There really is no "feedback" provided for clutch bite, especially when taking off, besides visually noticing your car move. Everything feels quite dead/bland in that regard. I don't think any of these games and clutch/shifter combos were designed to replicate/simulate "normal/slow" daily driving. Now with that all being said, at racing speed it's a lot of fun, and I think it would be a great "basic" introduction to what's needed when driving a manual transmission. It's just the "finesse" that will need to be learnt when jumping into a real car. Maybe check out City Car Driving if you're wanting more of a teaching aid for driving, as I *think* that's what it was designed for.
As for "ignoring" the clutch, all the games I've played have some kind of "auto clutch" option, so you can still use the H pattern shifter and not have to worry about the clutch. You can also use the paddle shifters without the clutch, or go full automatic. All the options are there.
sleekitwan I know it's a late reply, but to whoever will be reading this i can say that i've purchased g27 precisely for learning how to drive manual transmission cars before jumping in the real car. A year after the purchase I can confirm that this was a good investment as g27 allowed me to learn the basics of driving and i am now driving a real car for more than half a year. The only downside of the g27 (and every other pc wheel setup) is, as has been already mentioned, that you will need to spend some time to learn smoothness of shifting to avoid jolting of the real car when shifting gears as g27 obviously will not provide you with this type of feedback.
Can the Dfgt work on windows 11?
Many thanks bro for your review.
i need a new g27 cause mine just isnt working for any games, it broke in 2015-2016 and i need a new one.
Sincerely, Gary.
JohnSkedleskyRBLX I should get a different wheel like the Thrustmaster T300 or the Logitech G29
thank u. I`ll get the gt
2:47 i think your g27 wheel is bent lol
It's not bent. This is normal to all G27's.
My G27 is the same. Its normal
A lot of real world wheels are offset like that.
can you use the G27 shifter in the same way as the DFGT shifter?
Nope! Not unless you put a rubber band on it. Search for "g27 sequential shifter mod"
Buy a g25 :)
There`s one thing about this video that makes it really hard to watch. I know this is 6 years old, cheap as I am these things slipped into my price range only now, so the vid is helpfull. Yet throughout all of it I really struggled almost until the end to figure out what it was that this Hate-shpan Thing hates so much.
what's the cheapest way to add a hand brake to g27? I need it for dirt rally
A joystick.
thanks dude i bought one today and am having a blast. I don't know how id didn't think of it 10 bucks on craigslist :p
No problem, I picked mine too for 10 euros :p
which program do you use for rotate it for sound??
Qin tiyy you don't need a program for that lol xD it always does that everytime you boot up the wheel
it does that every time as that's the calibration for the wheel and force feedback
My freaking g27 coming middle of 13 days fuck yeah
Excellent! :P
LetsTestDrive i have it :P
Buenos días, se puede usar caja de cambios y pedalera con embrague del g27 para el driving force gt?
Não tenho certeza,mas os conectores não são compatíveis,então você tem q usar um método alternativo,tem alguns tutoriais no UA-cam que explicam melhor
@@r31z1n6 muito brigado
Youll have to to a g29 vs dfgt now because the g27 is now almost $400 on amazon
Yes I'd love to get my hands on other wheels to test/compare them :D
LetsTestDrive Im lucky because i just bought a g27 for 190 on ebay not even an hour ago. SO HYPED
And which one is better?I found a G27 With 170$ it's ok?
Driving Force GT I Like that
The g27 is awesome
@LetsTestDrive is the driving force gt good for simulation
For PC sim titles, absolutely.