How to Make Your £400 Electric Drum Kit Sound Like A £4000 Acoustic Drum Kit!
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- Опубліковано 4 тра 2024
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Ever wanted to make your electronic drum kit sound real?
Well, you're in luck! Watch Rob & Colin run through the Tourtech TT-22M Electric kit plugged into Superior Drummer 3 and completely change its sound. With over 1TB of samples, It's easy to get lost in the world of super rare kits and customization. Have a favorite brand you like to use? Yamaha, Gretsch and many more kits are all available for you to pick and choose your custom shells.
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How to sound like literally anyone without busting the bank. There you go. SD3 is your Boss Katana from now on.
The endless possibilities for shitty bedroom demos makes me very happy
Bought a reasonably priced e drum and this. Here's to recording an album at home!
What's the album called, so I can look it up
@@willchristianson171 I just finished recording drums, rest of the band has to record their parts on top of that, then mixing, mastering, deciding on a title and when/how to release it. Wayyy to early, my friend. 😀
@@DerHerrMitR good luck!
Lemme know when it's done!
@@Verosment I'll try and remember. Currently recording bass and then guitars, so that will take considerably longer. 😀
Thanks for this video. I've actually been looking at getting an electric kit for recording (I already have SD3). This was very insightful.
Been needing a video like this. THANK YOU!!
The video that i was looking for for days. Thank you for this
SDX has a whole mixer setup with mics, rooms and effects. Since they grabbed the Collins preset, and just changed the drums, it retained all the mic and rooms of that preset. So you can go much deeper and really dial in sounds to your need.
I've already got the TT22M and i'm planning on getting SD at some point.
I used to play electric guitar through my high end PC sound card Delta 1010lt and it was great the latency was pretty low. Roughly 10ms with all other channels going.
After I stopped playing with plugins and went back to an amp I felt very naked. Like the amp was much more immediate and revealing.
I'd argue my timing was affected badly by monitoring on my sound card. I know it's only 10ms and I know I can't really hear that gap but there was a definite difference playing though an amp. It definitely more naked and immediate.
I'd imagine that would be catastrophic for a drummer.
Watched on Tuesday, bought on Wednesday. Cheers guys, this is what I've been after.
Hey, how did it go. Seriously thinking about it too lol
@@metalliclark86 Couldn't be happier, for the money these are a great option, my only gripe is the lack of accessories on the market, I want an extra tom and cymbal but I'll need to buy another brand from what I can see
Fantastic demo. Have just bought this combo 😃 Can’t wait to start playing again. Played for over 20 years but haven’t played in the last 15 years ! Such wonderful UA-cam tuition videos now and super excited 👍Thanks again Andertons
So you basically played 5 years but didnt play for 15 years
@@wandli nope
@@wandli 15 years ago he had played for his 20th year i assume
He played for 20 years, then had a 15 year hiatus.
Should've showed setup, recording some midi, how to adjust sensitivtiy on kit and in daw, how to select midi channels and talked about the quality of the midi translating into the daw i.e. how accurate does the feel you play match the recorded midi.
Another vid please.
That would have been helpful. Instead we get a sales advert for Superior Drummer.
Ian Martin maybe they have no idea what those things are. It seems to me they’re learning on the fly. What would be more constructive would be to, instead of bitching, explain those topics in your own video. I for one would like more of those things covered in videos as I have little knowledge on the subject.
@@sierratrey I wasn't bitching. I was sincerely, but succinctly, asking for another vid; hence the please.
I'm not here to write novels, and they're not going to read them.
Also, if you have an electric kit, you should know what these things are, else you've probably just wasted your money.
Totally agree. Andertons is a business, and if they are showcasing a product they should explain what latency is if you are planning to record with your E Drumkit while triggering your VST sounds. I have this drumkit. Pads are incredible but I am experiencing latency when traking live with addictive drums 2. Working on a macbook pro i7, 1T SSD and 16gb ram. There will always be latency...
@@sierratrey So, when the people who have direct access to the vendor and company reps for free support don't show valuable info in their vids, and I ask for valuable content instead, your solution is that I'm a bitch who needs to make his own videos by buying millions of dollars worth of music equipment and demoing it?
Your thinking is that I'm not here as a curious potential buyer, but as someone who already has all of the knowledge and is simply bitching about a poor job?
Thank you for doing this video. ❤️ Subbed. Planning on plugging my TD 1DMK into this....
Those ghost notes though!! 🔥🔥
would be cool to do a "sounds like" video with this setup!
Stayed tuned!
Yes! Very good idea!
If u go into the midi settings and check which is the lowest speed note of every pad when hit and set the speed curve of every pad to begin at that lowest speed note, it will give u even more dynamics. U can also adjust the speed curve however u want.
How do you do that?
I suspect that if Toontrack released a hardware device that you could load maybe two or three of your choice of SD kits onto, that had USB in and maybe four-six outs to allow you to EQ for the venue, they would sell a ton of them. A live drummer doesn't normally need an infinite number of kit combinations for a gig. If they're using an acoustic kit, they have only one kit anyway. However, being able to take a portable electronic kit that fits in the car, doesn't need to be miced up, takes up less space on the stage, doesn't spill onto other mics on the stage, doesn't take an hour to set up, can work in small venues where an acoustic kit isn't practical, is a massive plus. The downside would be the laptop, which I expect would put a lot of people off. It's a relatively fragile device that takes time to boot up, takes up space on the stage, and that can at times do unpredictable things, like kick off a virus scan that slows everything down, like start a Windows update with a reboot at the end etc.
The laptop isn't really an issue. Everything you mentioned as a down side is easily preventable with basic setup. Virus scans and updates can be scheduled to happen at specific times of day. Any computer with an SSD takes only 10 to 15 seconds to boot up. Modern laptops are even faster with NVME drives, often hitting the password screen or desktop in only 2 seconds. As far as durability and portability, I would wonder if it could even be driven on a tablet.
Aawesome video!
I also found out myself just recently, that with e-drums it is all "just software". I, as a beginner (playing the drums for 2 years now), also got a quite cheap e-drum-kit for about 550,- euros. And just recently I wanted to step my game up a bit, by having a better drum module, so I got me the Roland TD-17 plus the ATV aD3 for comparison. And - oh my goodness - did my cheap e-drum-kit sound and FELT better than before! A lot more sensitive to play and everything! Plus, very interesting also: The ATV could resemble this "burrying the beater"-style on the kick, while the Roland couldn't. So, yes, all just software. :-) (Just to mention that: I kept the Roland and sent the ATV back.)
why didn't you keep the ATV instead of the Roland?
@@MrNickdino Good question. It's now 2 years since that happened. But as far as I remember, it was somehow the extensibility with other sounds, the handling of it, but also the options for learning/training which were better at the Roland. Even though the ATV had better "built-in" sounds already.
I agree it's amazing the sound you can get out of superior drummer with the cheap electronic kit with USB, but which computer are y'all using for Superior drummer?
You will have to add another $1,500 for a Mac or700 for a decent windows-based laptop.
Haha i didn’t see the tags but guessed the solution right away😂😂😂 , with sd3 Even the most crappy kit (if it has MIDI-possibilities) can Sound insane!
What sound system / amp are you guys playing this through? This is just amazing especially for live situations in very small venues 👌
Looking forward to getting the SD3 but I'm not sure my current laptop would work. I have an Aspire 5. Do you have any suggestions for a laptop that can run SD3 while still playing UA-cam videos or Drumeo lessons with little to no noticeable latency?
Great video. You sold me on SD3 just need to make sure I've got everything needed to get the most from this software. Thanks mates!
Alesis crimson 2 se
I love my toontracks bits, even the ez kits sound nice
I watched this video like 3 days ago and now I have one of these on the way to me
oppps
How can you go wrong with $700 approximately and get a drum kit equal to 300 drum kits. Fantastic!
theres also more software out there that is free like matt halpern lite kit and steven slate drums and both sound incredible
Question, I have my turbo alesis drums connected to ez drummer 2, so how can I set my audio to connect to my presonas to come out of my headrush speakers? Thanks in advance.
Wtf! 😭😭😭😭😭❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ The first pick is sick
Great....Which kind of cable you need to connect to a Macbook and a Roland TD 4KP ?
Great one, guys. Just one note though which might have changed or affected your sound: the moment you pick a preset like „Collins kit“, a bunch of processing is loaded as well (EQ, compression and routing). The moment you change an instrument (another kick or tom), the same processing that was initially made for the kick of the preset is then applied to the kick you’ve picked. This might lead to „wrong“ sounds as obviously you would EQ an 28x14 Kick differently than a 18x14 kick.
2022 update please ! What best feel like an acoustic with great natural and or emulating
Do you guys use a sound interface or just plug on the laptop?
can you play brushes(swirls) on low cost e drum kit with Superior Drummer 3....how bout cross sticking?
Will this work with any other electric drum kit
With this interface, will the MIDI have dynamics or will every hit be the same volume?
Can these SD3 kits be put onto a USB and then plugged into the drum module directly? I ask bc I only have a desktop 1000 miles away from my drums and it doesn’t make sense to have the worlds longest cord going to if, lol. Thanks.
I have SD3 it’s incredible.i bought a 3 ply mesh from DrumTec Germany.i have a Mapex armory 6 piece kit that’s going to get an electronic makeover. Next week I’m buying Orchestral percussion SDX. You won’t believe the percussion possible start stacking huge bass drum with taiko drum dash stack all the gongs together after you tune them for level volume your brain will start to melt . Do yourself a favor and watch the walkthrough right now. Turn it up!,,,!!!
I've got any leases nitro mesh special edition kit and I've noticed that when I change the bass drum the feel of the mallet against the pad feels exactly how it sounds when I turn my pitch way down low as though the head would be super loose it feels loose! When I turn the pitch up on that same number voice you can feel the pad somehow Titan to the tone is this my imagination??? Also with my drum pads if I change the snare to a different snare sound it feels like the sound!???
Hey guys, what monitor do you use?
What speakers are you using to get the sounds from the computer? Also, how did you hook the computer up to the speakers?
Can you u use addictive drums for the tourtech 22-M?
Would this programme work on every electric kit with a midi out?
Very cool video, guys!
How did you connect the module to the computer (USB?) and was there any latency noticeable?
important question unanswered til this day. very sad. delay is a HUGE problem and quiet a few people got mad on this problem.
You just plug a USB cable straight into your laptop. I have this kit and connected it yesterday. My Focusrite Scarlett is also plugged in to another USB port and then I've set the e-kit up in Reaper using MT Power Drum Kit 2 (which is free). It all works perfectly with no latency. MT Power Drum only has one basic kit which is why I'm looking at something better like Superior or EZ Drummer....
If you go iOS with Drum Session , there is zero latency using iOS
I am founding Linn sound -only module sounds inside- to use on e drums kit, same brand both..I supose. That exist?? Cheers.
Anyone know anything about drivers required? Can’t find any…also I’m assuming this e-kit is compatible with EZDrummer 3?
Hi.. what were you monitoring through in the room? Thanks
where to get collins kit?
This is only available in the uk?
How to deal with kick drum double triggering issue while recording midi using this kit with SD3?
WHATS GOOD AMP TO USE WITH A ALESES SURGE ELECTRIC KIT
I'd like to hear this in a real gig. 🍺😎🤙🏻🤙🏻🤙🏻
We need you to share this preset please:)
Hello... Great explanation there. One question I have is, I am too contemplating to buy the SD3. But my edrums are pretty basic like the one you sported there (with a bit of a more muscle mine is Carlsbro SC D600). So, would I be able to seamlessly use/exploit superior drummer no matter the make or model of my electronic kit? Meaning, be is a top of the line Roland kit or the $750 model, which I'm possessing, would the sounds generated be the same with both these kits when interfaced or setup properly with the SD3 VST? ( here that I'm ruling out the quality difference of the pads which should surely be evident between the kits and the discomfort of smaller pads on the $750 kit).
The crux of the question is, would I be able to bring out the similar sounding grooves or licks from the SD3 VST no matter the kit used? (be it a $400 or a $750 like I have or a $4k kit which I dream of). What do u think of positional sensitivity? Is that of any concern brother? Thank you!! You Rock!!
Theoretically the e-drum will just become the trigger. The sound will be now produced not from the drum module but from the PC software. Probably the dynamic may be affected? For example a more responsible snare from a 700$ kit will give you a more dynamic response that the 400$ one but besides that, then it will become a matte whether your drum supports: rim shot and the symbols are single or dual zone, with or without choke function. Which will depend still on the function
It will sound the same, thats whats funny. In the end your just beating on plastic pads.
Could you share the SP3 settings that you used for the midi interface, please. I bought the setup from Andertons and I don’t think the pad sensitivity setting are quite right using the ‘generic’ setting and there isn’t a Tourtech kit listed. Thanks.
That is a very good question
what p.a system best for this??
Just load GGD modern and massive o P4 and there you go, best samples in the game
Ignacio Vera meh that’s subjective. I personally don’t care for those samples. Imo the Mark Lewis toontrack samples are where it’s at.
These guys are not annoying at all
Hey guys, I am looking to get SD3 and I have a question about setup. I know you said you can go straight from computer to drums, but I am worried about latency. Should I run the drums through an audio interface and then into the computer? If so, are there any interfaces you'd recommend that don't break the bank?
I went the focusrite route their great, I got the 2i2, personally I'd say get one with 2 inputs Incase you want to record multiple things at once in the future, you never knew, I never would have guessed initially
What amp or monitors are they playing through? into the laptop and.. out. to what?
what program are you using? that's awesome! :)
Superior Drummer 3
And now, for a total beginner first time player. How would actually setting this up work.. and what would I else need, other than buying and downloading the software. Thats what I really want to know. Switching though Default Profiles I can do on my own for sure.
It’s not as easy as all the videos suggest, but it can be done.
whats the interface software called?
Yes but the triggers pads have little dynamic variation it appears
Where can I buy the tour tech t 22 in USA
Avesome. How can I do that on my drums?
What kind of lag did you experience compared to the electric kit module? All software of this type will experience some lag and depends in part on your laptop / pc. I found i really needed under 4ms.
I am running a Roland TD-17 with EzDrummer2. Depending on the buffer size I can get below 4 ms but I am running on 64 samples and 4.9 ms. Sufficient for me.
@@Wollestar I have a KVX. Installed some paid for kits as well but still not happy with the sound. Maybe superior is worth looking at. Or sell the KV, get an accoustic kit and get some triggers and quiet heads for when I want it quiet. Humm .
@@andrewrichards9042 in my opinion EzDrummer 2 is enough. But if you want to, of course go for SD3. At the Moment there is a Holiday sale over at toontrack for Ezdrummer 2 and also some additional libraries.
For me EZD made an enormous difference. The added dynamics are crazy. Plus I have adjusted the sensitivity of the pads. Just sounds amazing in my opinion.
I have the kvx as well, but upgraded the 8" toms with the 10" toms from ATV. Very happy with them. Makes the kit a bit bigger and nicer to play.
I personally would not sacrifice the benefits of the e drums with ezdrummer for an acoustic kit. The huge variety of kits you can play there is massive plus I cannot play an acoustic in my appartement.
Hope, I was able to help
I did the opposite, i own a 3400 dollar digital drumkit and i turned it into a 400 dollar drumkit.
Eventhough my way to expensive drumkit sounds good, it takes less than a minute to make it sound like an acoustic drumkit, i LOVE it. And its so easy to record with MIDI ,you can change any key or remove.. its so good :) Good for cheap studio
Please if anyone can help that would be such a help’ just got an e kit for practice when I’m not using my acoustic kit but would love love do this 🤘🥁✌️
This may sound like a dumb question to any electronic drummers, but is this possible with Alesis products like the Alesis nitro kit and Alesis turbo kit? Thanks, great vid.
Yes it is possible
Yes
The Alesis mesh kit is like 399$ and its great
@@MrMonero I have a Nitro and when I first bought it it was great for me as a beginner but I'm beginning to want more out of it a couple years later. I don't know anything about the other kit but the Nitro was all I needed when I was first learning.
Is it better than tourtech t 22
Why don't you ship to the U.S.?
Oh wow how can I get that ?
The thing that is always crap on cheaper kits is the sound of the cymbals. SD3 actually makes it sound not bad and actually pretty good.
Most modules sounds just as bad as they did 20 years ago. You would need to pay lots and lots of money for a module that sounds as good as superior drummer does. The high end Pearl module costs something like 3000 dollars, and then you have to own a high end drumkit that would support all of the technology.
I disagree with that statement ENTIRELY. Modules have come along in leaps and bonds literally year by year. What you get now on a mid priced kit, compared to 20 years ago is absolute chalk and cheese.
i use EZDRUMMER made by the same company, sounds just as good but its nearly 200 pounds cheaper
What about the latency?
Hi. I've got a similar and in my opinion better piece of software than superior drummer 3, having listened to and watched reviews and demos of it. So that side is sorted, but I dont know what e drum kit To get. I thought about tourtech... any suggestions?
Better than sd3?!! What’s better than that?! Other than a live kit but even then sd3 is kind of better Cause instead of one kit u got a bunch of kits both ready to use and to piece together yourself
@@olejakob9216 bfd3 and all its expansions
How does this kit work w/ double pedal bass?
i've heard decently, but you wanna get both beaters as close to the centre as possible
How much does the program cost or is there a free version?
I got EZdrummer for $150. I believe SD3 is a bit more expensive but EZdrummer still sounds great.
Will this work with any beginner drumkit? Or could you describe which kits are suited for this?
Any kit that has USB out.
Has to be usb or would midi work? Have an old Roland td7 without usb.
MIDI also works
Does this work for the alesis command X?
Yes
How do u connect the laptop to ur e drums ? I need help
USB connector, or MIDI
Does anyone know if PD3 is free?
Can any one help me out or send me a link we’re I can hook up my GarageBand from my phone to my donner electric drums pls 🙏
Play with the giant drum sticks lying behind you please! :))
Is latency an issue with this setup?
There will be some latency, in the ms low ms range.
2:20 lol bell tip
Can you add a cymbal to this kit
Yes, you can (or I did) buy a symbal, tom expansion kit. 1 extra symbal and Tom.
what brand of edrums is that?
Tourtech
I see people using ez drummer 2 with this more as the software Superior Drummer 3 is more expensive then the drums itself.
I have a TD10 Roland Moduale which does't have a USB :(
Use MIDI. It will have that.
Does your laptop have SSD? I'm still concerned about latency.
Latency not caused by HHD..just get asio 4 all...it's almost unnoticeable..use it regularly although there's a massive difference in loading speeds with the SSD drive..so I'd definitely get one
@@outtayardstudio thanks 🙏🏻
yes you can make your 400 electronic drum kit sound great, you just need to give toontrack a lot of control over you wallet as the software you guys are using (superior drummer 3) is expensive (but then again it is the golden standard), but there is also ezdrummer 3 which can also give your 400 electronic drum kit good sounds for a lot less money than what superior drummer 3 costs, yes you don't get all of the articulation options that superior drummer 3 has but your 400 electronic drum kit will sound much better than with stock sounds and if you just want good sounds to play with without having to dail in everything then ezdrummer 3 is a really good option as well. another thing to take into account is that the core library of superior drummer 3 completely installed takes more than 200 gigabytes of space while ezdrummer costs only 15 gigabyte to completely install
I have an alesis DM_7X. My complaint (for the most part) is the cymbals. Since my set is the same size as the one you are using, how much is the software for mine? (I trade currencies - I can translate pounds to dollars just fine)
Cringe, mate. Cringe.
How does one get the software? I have an electronic kit already.
Links available in the description.
@@MrMonero 200 or 300
No matter which kit it sounds like, the initial strike still sounds like a pad. Granted the drums sound better.
But that is, because they can't or simply didn't bother to adjust the sensitivity of the pads. I trigger EzDrummer2 via an edrum and that sounds quite nice. A lot of dynamic range. But most likely it will still not sound hundret percent like an acoustic. At least not stand alone. Within a song it is very close.
All electronic drums I have tried over the years since the eighties, has been atrocious. I am simply unable to play on them. It is the "feel" of the pads that freaks me out.
Have you played on mesh pads? Pads like the Drumtech Real Feels? They feel just like acoustic heads. I also think it might be less an issue with electronic kits and more an issue with the pads themselves... I have an acoustic-sized conversion with Realfeel heads and it feels exactly like playing acoustic, especially with the metal field cymbals.
I agree. Even mesh heads feel weird
SD2 is about half the price
Keep in mind that cheap drum kits don’t last long. You should buy roland or yamaha if you want the cymbals to last
Exactly, not to mention the overall feel will outweigh the sound when playing imo
That's sounds too good. Kind of regretting spending so much money on my kit now. Well, no that's a lie - but still!!
Nah man, I bought a Roland TD-17KVX and when I play the drums through Garageband via midi it just feels way different than playing through the module. Certainly some latency, but not enough for it to be a huge issue. The midi kit sounds are good too, but it's definitely an adjustment with the feel. The Roland sounds are still really good and are worth it in the end.
my only problem with electronic is it doesnt have the same feel as an acoustic kit