Does EZdrummer 3 Work Well With Electronic Drums?
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- Опубліковано 25 кві 2024
- Today we're reviewing EZdrummer 3, talking about how it compares against the old version EZdrummer 2, how it compares to Superior Drummer 3, and ending with a tutorial of how to use EZD3 with electronic drums.
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Chapters:
0:00 Intro Drumming
0:12 Opening Thoughts
1:13 Drumming
1:31 Review
4:10 EZD2 vs EZD3
5:15 EZD3 vs SD3
7:43 Drumming
8:18 How To Use EZD3 With e-Drums
I appreciate the fast preset changes with same drum fill at the beginning of the video. Makes it easy for my little brain to compare tonalities.
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Justin, I'm not a drummer but I own an Alesis Strike kit for my live band. Your videos are complete, well organized, and live in the real world.Many thanks.
I just purchased an alesis strike pro SE and one of the decision points was so that I didn't have to buy EZD or SD for a while (possibly ever) because it has such decent built-in sounds.
I see EZD probably being phased out as standard modules start to match EZDs capabilities. Fortunately for toontrack they can just up the price for SD to make up for lost EZD sales as this transition takes place, since it will always be the penultimate tool and modules will never be able to come close.
@@homomorphic I think the target group are not strike pro owners 😉
This review is the best I've seen. The tips for setup are easy to follow and make sense. Thanks Justin for this top shelf video!
Justin, awesome video! Really happy to see you getting better and better with videos/production over all the years. Rock on! 😎👍🏼
Really really nice to have a full explanation of every step to get everything working, and we can see exactly where to click to get to the same menu
Keep doing those videos, they really are the best in the electronic drums field
This was the review I was waiting for. Thanks Justin.
Dude thank you for explaining the velocity and high hat settings! Ive been looking everywhere for that info. You rock
This is legitimately THE BEST overview of ED3 and how to use it. You're the man!
One of the best videos on this subject I've seen to date.
As a guitarist I LOLed. Love your videos Justin!
You’ve helped me settle on a Roland TD17KVX for my studio and I’m super grateful for that. The technology has come so far from my last Yamaha kit from 2010. Thank you for all you do!
I really appreciated this tutorial and learned a lot.
I've been using EZ and Superior 3 Drums since they first came out and have been into electronic drums from the beginning. You helped me with the latency problem that I've always had. My computers were very fast and had gobs of RAM so I thought that this lag was the nature of the beast. When I first started using EZ Drums, I got such a bad latency that I worked around it by monitoring the outs of my VDrum module that was triggered by Pintech pads and cymbals. I recently I've replaced the VDrum module and most of the pads and cymbals with Alesis Strike Pro gear. When tracking my performance, I would listen via the VDrum out, while recording the EZ sounds. I did a test by recording the VDrum audio along side the EZ Drums and did find a slight latency, with the audio lagging behind the MIDI but not enough to affect my playing. The MIDI signal is always in sync.
Now, I only use Superior 3, also BFD, High School Drum Corp, Studio Drummer and other percussion libraries. My DAW is Nuendo 12, running Win 10-64 on a 8-Core XEON with 128 Gb's of RAM and all SSD's.
FYI, in Superior 3 the latency control looks different from in your example in EZ, at least on my PC. My buffer choice is not configured in the program but in the audio control panel for my I/O device, a MOTU 2408 PCI, which had been set at 512. I lowered it to 32 , giving me an output latency of 1.1ms and a buffer latency of .7ms. I'll move it down to 16 if there are no glitches. Another thing that you hipped me to was choosing the hardware input. Once I set it to Alesis Strike Pro, the response was perfect with negligible latency. Also, I was able to better tweak the HI Hat open/close and cymbal zone responses.
Just when you think you know it all, there's more to learn! I thank you so much.
Awesome video thanks Justin!
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This is gold, Justin. Thank you!
great video mate. keep up the the good work
Awesome video, and exactly what I was looking for. Thanks!
Great setup and getting started guide!
Thank you very much for this video. Explained a lot. Looks like they've fixed most of the problems I've faced. Probably going to buy it soon :)
Great video Justin!…This is perfect video, I have been re-searching this online for awhile, trying to figure out which drum sample software to buy for my money and for my TD-30. You’ve made up my mind EZdrummer 3 is it. I have a small studio I built, Interface PreSonus Studio1824c and for drums Behringer Interface.. Seriously appreciate all your hard working you put into making these videos, plus your honesty about the product and keeping us drummer’s informed. Keep up the excellent work. Thank you again 🥁✌🏻
This is one of the best reviews on EZD3 I’ve seen. Thanks for sharing!
thanks dude!
Glad you're back, brother!
Your videos are really awesome - thanks for the info!
Thank you Justin, awesome video!!
Thanks for the video brother 🤗🥁🎶
Great review, thank you.
Awesome video! The grid editor is a game changer for me
Thanks for this perfect video!
great review Justin
Great channel Justin. Thanks
Really great video - thanks! I am using SD3 through a TD25 with a MacBook Pro, but started out with EZ2. Looks like a nice upgrade.
Awesome review, Justin. Nothing left out here and I do agree on your verdict. They significantly upgraded the whole software while still left enough distance between EZD3 and Superior Drummer 3. I also think that for the majority of e-drummers EZD3 will do the job.
Great video, cheers!
Justin, man I am such a fan of your work. I was looking for an Alesis kit, but all the similar models were confusing. You helped me save money by picking the right kit. Now I'm having the same issue with Toontrack and these packages.
You have great content, your preso skills are as strong as anybody I've ever seen in the corporate world. I truly appreciate the work you do, it's impressive.
Longtime e-drummer (Roland) + subscriber (65 Drums) but new EZD3 user - just what I was looking for to unlock its full potential w/ my V-Drums! Thanks for putting together your review 🙌
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Great video. Thank you!
Great video. Can you do a video about routing the channels into your DAW for more processing control over each channel?
Thanks man, this was really helpful to decide wether or not to use it with a roland TD-07
Dude, you're such a savior!
Good to see another video! I have EZD and AD ver 2 on both...I think. No need for me to upgrade. Thank you for the info though. Best Regards and Best Wishes!
That was awesome thank you so much for that! I’m getting ready to connect my VAD506 drums up to the newest MacBook Pro 16
Using EZd3 for out and about laptop easyness. At home the TD-27/506 and SD3 do the heavy lifting for jamming and recording with my son ( who is a bass player) he has chosen to study music in further education...how proud can a Dad get?
Every father and son should Jam, it's an awesome way to connect. Love your channel Justin, I see you growing HUGE in the coming years, the hard work will pay off, stick at it! things are going to get VERY exciting for e-drummers soon, mark my words!
hi justin , i really like your videos on edrums ! did you make one on how to use ezdrummer3 in a live gig ? i'm thinking on going this route for live ...
Thank you, Justin.
You videos are awesome and really helpful. I just got Alesis Surge and Easy Drummer 3. It's super cool stuff to play and practice. I tried to use it with my students during online lessons, but it didn't work ....
Did you have some issues like this?
Is it possible to use this software with teaching ?
Thank you .
thank you Justin for your videos, great explanation! Do you consider EZD3 better than GGD?
Damn bro I just watched your old video about Ezdrummer2 4years ago and wondering when will you release a new video and there we go.
Big appreciate from your Taiwanese viewer
I loved EZD2 and am loving the EZD3 upgrade a lot. I find this is all you need. I’ve spent a ton of money on expansion packs and most suck overall except for a few kicks or cymbals. I don’t do nearly anyyy of what you discussed but will be fiddling around with some of those functions today!!
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Great review!! EZ3 looks great waiting for my Apple air to arrive!
I didn't realize that I could get the latency low enough on my TD25 ASIO driver to use EZD3 as a sound module. I'm figuring out how to use this with my DAW as well. Thanks for the fantastic video.
me too with my td 17! a good cpu apparently helps most with latency though i can play on sd3 with not much noticeable latency on an okay cpu
Justin you're awesome❤
Amazing video.
Great video! I'm curious what electric kit you're playing in this video?
Great video
Another great video, thanks Justin. As a TD30 player I'm definitely going to buy v3 but would welcome a steer regarding spec for the purchase of a dedicated Windows laptop solely for use with my edrums. Thanks
Hey, Justin! Fantastic video! Could you cover GGD Invasion or other GGD libraries with an e-kit?
great video
10/10 thank you so much, you rock
Hey Justin! Is there any chance you can make a video one day in which you explain how to make the choke function of cymbals make work with EZ Drummer! This would be much appreciated! Thanks a lot for your videos they are so helpfull! Regards from Germany!
Man, I've been trying to get superior drummer to work well with my TD50 for like 3 months. Thank god I watched this. Might be time for another try
Hey Justin. Just upgraded from EZ2 to EZ3. Getting ready to add an eDrum kit (Alesis Strike Pro SE?) and I'm in a carpeted room. If I were to buy a 4x8 sheet of plywood to set the kit up on (with a rug on top of course), will 4x8 be room enough for that kit, or should I look at 2 4x8 sheets? Also, how thick should the plywood be? Great video too BTW. Love your stuff.
I just got the Gospel EZX and I'm super happy! Bet the ez3 would be great!
Well that settles it for me ezd3 it is, purchasing tomorow hopefully woks well with the simmons sd 1250 module ... thanks for the awesome video Justin
Great vid Justin.
Silly question. If you use ED3 through say a TD50, can you still record internally through the TD50 head using the ED3 samples? IE I am playing a song as base internally through TD50 that I want to add drums over that have the sounds generated by the ED3.
Great video, can you use two drum modules simoutaniously with EZdrummer 3 for example if you have a frankestein kit, and also is the mapping working if that setup is used.
Great video, thanks! I'm able to go down to 32 samples (0,7 ms delay) on iMac 27" 5K, 2019 with Scarlett Solo
Side snares? Can drums be added or removed? Great video.
Would have a liked some more I depth testing of sample layers and round Robin. Has it improved since ez2? How many times was each drum recorded at different velocities? Etc
Great review, Justin! I wonder how EZDrummer 3 compares to Addictive Drums 2?
Thank you Justin for this super helpful video! I have EZ2 and was wondering about the custom midi mapping capabilities since EZ2 basically has none. Toontrack had originally said if you wanted custom midi mapping and velocity control, you would have to buy Superior Drummer and it would not be available in an EZ product. I'm super happy they changed their minds (probably due to enough negative feedback from people like me lol). I will definitely be upgrading to EZ3 in the coming months, thanks Toontrack!
Hit me up if you are looking for EZD and all expansion packs with 50% discount!
I’m tempted to buy this now thanks to this video Justin. I run Ezdrummer 2 as a stand alone (no daw) with audio through my td17 and I love it except for the high hat which really does bug so I was:
A: glad to hear you had the same opinion and I wasn’t alone.
And B: glad to hear that ez3 has fixed this issue.
I would encourage you to jump-in the pool. Seriously, I am quite surprised and indeed pleased with EZ3- and I expect the price will only increase as the software gains positive reviews and acceptance. I would say this will have value in the $300-$400 US range. The ability to simply import a mp3 track and get recognition for midi is cherry on the cake. Yup, they did a pretty good job IMHO. (absolutely no affiliation)
I still use the first ez drummer, with expansions of course, and it does a great job for what it is. I use it with my old Alesis e-drums, but because of the latency of my setup, i only use it for studio purposes. The built in sounds of the e-drums are okay for writing, and practicing anyway, the sounds should pop on the recording, and they do (if my mixing and mastering is on the spot of course)
Hi Sr. Thank you for taking Time for explaining all this.
I use EZdrummer 3 and Cakewalk as DAW in Win10. My e-drum is a Alesis nitro. Everything ok until Now, but I want to play in live at Church. Now, I have to buy a sound interface, I am looking to M-audio Duo for plugging in on a Console. Do you think that everything Is gonna be alright? The latency, drivers of sound interface, etc ?
Thank you!
Excellent!
Finally just upgraded from EZD2 and more than stoked with how awesome it is!
Hey Justin awesome vid I might have to end up buying this one! I use addictive drums 2 my DAW is waveform 11. I have a MSI Delta 15 laptop I use both ASIO and my Focusrite Scarlett Solo 3rd Gen as my audio devices. Because of that I am not sure what is my audio buffer size since its set at 256 samples 5.8ms yet there is no latency at all probably thanks to asio.
What cymbal pads are those? I see what appears to be a blue LED under the crash on your left and a glow under the right crash. I have a double kick Roland TD-6V with some CY-12's that aren't firing very well right now that I have on my kit at church! My pads are vintage PD-21's I've had since 1987, and I've recently purchased some Alesis Nitro Mesh pads since I'm on a budget (so I can lower my stage volume some since getting complaints from some people that everything is too loud) on eBay and I still have to custom modify the narrower L-bar holders to fit my larger diameter Roland (actually Ultimate Support) aluminum bars. If I can't get them repaired, I'm considering new cymbals and am thinking about putting triggers on some Evans dB Ones since I'm hearing good things about them! Love your reviews always!
Thanks for the vid. Im about to spring for a TD17-KVX and was looking to run Addictive Drums. up to this point ive only used it for programming beats to my guitars and bass. im a control freak :)
Good choice on the TD17-KVX, as the rubber pads on the cheaper models will give you tendonitis's. I have AD2 and it has great sounds and pretty good hi-hat controls, they have good technical support as well.
I’d personally suggest td27 if u can. The digital inputs make it so u can have a extra snare ride and hi hat. Perfect for future expansion
im the same as u with the same kit
@@tedmarchand1810 thanks much but I went with the td 17. im more of a rock and punk drummer and not much need for the precision of positional sensing. the 27 is for sure a nice nice kit but after all these years of buying gear im FINALLY learning not to go more than I need. gear is great but so is a savings account ha ha!!
Thanks for this video, man! 🙂 I watch your channel pretty regularly. Own a Roland TD25K set that I've used for years now, and have gotten a lot of mileage from. Within the past 6 months, _"upgraded"_ (IMO) the older TD25 module to the TD17. Not that the preset sounds on either of those are bad, they're not, but... I think it's time to explore other options. Seems like this will be the ticket, for me.
_-Cheers!_ 🍻
I must say that the TD17 is considered quite the downgrade. The TD17 is the successor to the TD11/15 modules, whereas the TD25 is the predecessor to the TD27. You're giving up positional sensing and you aren't gaining anything with the TD17 as far as i know? No more expansion ports, same crappy roland sounds. If you're going to use a plugin why on earth would you go from a 25 to a 17???
@@fVNzO The 17 _technically_ has better on-board sounds, as its library is based on the TD-50 engine. _(Whereas the 25 pulls from the older TD-30 line.)_
Plus, the 17 has a bit more features in terms of customization. _(Strainer adjustment, mic placement, room size, ect.)_ Little things like that, which... IMO make it better, overall.
@@davidjlosi Well, all of those are fairly unimportant to me personally. Especially because the TD17 is quite the downgrade compared to the TD50. And with the TD50 already being in the bottom half of sound quality in the industry, i feel like giving up positional sensing was a bad move. That's really nice for superior drummer.
I personally suggest td27. It’s a bit more but u get digital inputs so it’s only module to give 2 hi hat. Snares and rides. Perfect for expanding
@@tedmarchand1810 nope, the digital inputs disable analogs you don't get two of any of them.
Great video thanks! Bit late to the party here, but thought I would ask... I like to set-up my E-kit modual so that the rim shots are extra cymbols (normally little splashes or stacks etc.). This then gives me 8 cybmbols total (excluding the hi-tat). Is there a way to add more cymbols to the EZ drummer kit / map these rim shots to extra cymbols in EZ drummer? I've not bought the software yet, but this is kind of a big factor for pulling the trigger on the purchase. Kit I'm using is the Strike Pro. Cheers!!
I got it last week and the bright room kit and presets are definitely good.
I agree, there's no need to spend an hour tweaking the sounds because It kinda sounds great out of the box
@@65Drums the only thing that I don’t like about the band mate feature is that it’s limited to one track. I wish you could put in a couple of more tracks for the AI to pick up a little better.
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@65Drums I’m running a Roland td27 with the the Vad kit . I’m really considering running EZ drummer 3 live through my newer Mac. Would I need a audio interface to line out ,to go to the mixing board or can I go back through the module and go left and right output to the mixer ? Also is running a lap top live not a great idea ? Any help 🙏🏻 not really happy with the Td27 sounds .
Good one 💪
I recently started using the Luke Holland drum library with my DTX 522K on my windows PC. Buffer size is usually at 512 on my Focusrite 2i4. My Daw of choice Is Ableton
Cool man! 👌
Hey, great Video. Do you have a Link to buy this cool drum Kit?
I made it myself out of different components, so unfortunately I can't give you a link :)
love your reviews and videos! Just wanting your personal opinion as Im having trouble choosing a vst.. superior drummer 3 or perfect drums? - I want to record at home with the most realistic sounding kits available for best results.. thanks ;)
Right now my go to is Superior Drummer 3, it's fantastic and can do anything. Just make sure you find the preset that fits the sound you want. There's a ton of them
@@65Drums thanks :)
Hey justin, thank you for your videos. Would you advise me to buy a decent roland module and use it with an alesis crimson 2 se kit??
Thanks again.
Came here to ask where you got that laptop stand. I've been looking for something similar for a while!
It’s just the Amazon Basics laptop stand. I think it was 80 bucks
Thanks! My TD1 control is a bit limited. I'm thinking of upgrading it. Suggestions?
so close to 100 K man.
Yeah been trying to get there for 8/9 years :)
Great instructional video but, how do you mute the internal sounds on a TD27?
Thanks for the video. I'm considering installing mesh heads and triggers on my real kit and using Superior Drummer 3 for live tracking with a band. I'll be using a MacStudio. If I (the guitarist/vocalist) and the drummer (yes, a real drummer) are tracking together at the same time, will the kit and the timing feel right? Guessing that I'll have to turn the latency of SD3 down as low as possible. Let me know what you think, especially if you've tried using SD3 w/ a midi kit in a "live band, everybody tracking at once" scenario. Thanks.
Thanks for the food for thought. I do hate the sounds that are in my TD-50X module!
Good video, I’ll try EZ Drummer 3 on my set.
I used asio4all for years, but the last few times I tried to use it everything went to crap.
Had the right versions, checked everything, so I don’t use it.
I got it for my edrums. Massive difference on the user end with connecting them together. I feel that sounds are the same, which isn't bad.
Greetings from Missouri! I use a millennium 850 as my e drums. An 2015 iMac 27” i5 with 16g of ram. And for software I’m using 3 different GGD libraries in the Omni configuration and I use different drums and cymbals from each library to get a custom sound. Routing is crucial when combining libraries, but I’m very curious about maybe trying out Ez drummer 3….
Hey Justin,2 quick questions
1. I dont see presets for ATV modules,does that mean they are not compatible?
2.Are there any presets for live situations,with lowered reverb?
Thank you excellent vid. I am using EZdrummer 3 finger style using Arturia Keystep pro. I am primarily a guitarist with other instrument skills. I also do studio stuff only and record. I used to play and have a Ludwig kit and play it in a band for 2 years or so. I want to record several songs where I need a kit as impossible on finger drumming. I looked at Nux dm7x but drumtec said not good, I looked ar Atv exs2 mk2 but atv told me they are discontinuing. Roland stuff looks like 07 is replacing 17. Alexis I have read about reliability problems also budget wise I am thinking not greater than $1000. Advice would really be appreciated.
Roland TD-20 module, a desktop PC (Core i5-4570 - quite old, 8GB RAM, SSD), Behringer UMC 404HD audio interface; I use latency 128 at 48KHZ. Software Superior Drummer 3 (currently), few years ago EZdrummer 2. I use this configuration live at my church in Romania and it works flawlessly. No built-in sounds can match the quality of these libraries.
P.S. Few years ago I used Roland TD-4 module which had issues with latency. With the same audio settings in software and interface all latency issues went away by simply switching to Roland TD-20 module.
Hi brother, God bless you.
I have a Alesis Nitro Kit, CakeWalk as DAW, EZD3. I want to play at muy Church but I dont have audio interface. For my budget, I just can buy a cheap audio interface like M-audio Duo. What do you think about it? Do you think I could play without problems.? I have a Asus Laptop Core i3 5010U,. 2.10Ghz. 8Gb Ram, SSD 256GB. Cakewalk anda EZD3 run without latency when I play ir record at home
hi justin. can i use multiple drum module at the same time on EZD3?
Thank you.
Layering with AD, SD, BFD, and some 808 stuff is fun.