The Bad Fruits of Americanism

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  • The famous historian, Arthur Schlesinger, once stated that prejudice and bigotry against Catholics is the deepest bias in the history of the American people. In other words, anti-Catholicism is in the very roots and foundation of the United States. Another historian, namely, John Tracy Ellis, wrote that a universal anti-Catholic bias was brought to Jamestown in 1607 and vigorously cultivated in all thirteen colonies from Massachusetts to Georgia. A Roman Catholic named, Christopher Columbus, discovered the New World. Catholic explorers, adventurers, and missionaries came to this land and established trading outposts and religious missions…they sailed our coastlines and navigated some of our great rivers. Our nation, the very continent upon which we reside, is named after the Roman Catholic mapmaker, Amerigo Vaspucci. And since July 4, 1776, the Birthday of our country, Catholics have fought for the interests of this nation and have lost more lives in service to the country than any other religious group by far. Catholics helped build the railroad system…our immigrants were a part of that industrial and manufacturing explosion that made our economy the envy of the world. Our Catholic men helped keep the streets safe from crime and put out the fires…our Catholic men settled land and built up the farms of the Midwest. Our Catholic women taught their numerous children to seek virtue and to obey those in authority and to follow all just laws of the land. It was Catholics that the FBI recruited under J. Edgar Hoover, because we were the most anti-Communist and the most loyal of Americans. As the population was largely of immigrant stock, Catholics, despite all the persecution and bigotry, grew to love this land that took them in and allowed them to live, to have families, to teach their children, to work, and to pray the Holy Mass in our churches. But our gratitude to Lady Liberty and to Ol’Glory, as well as our willingness to embrace the culture and to assimilate brought with it some problems including falling prey to a heresy known as Americanism. For more please visit reginaprophetarum.org/#/ & remember to say 3 Hail Marys for the priest
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 166

  • @bareit98
    @bareit98 6 років тому +112

    I've always found it funny that American Protestants condemn us Catholics of idolatry, yet they will boldly say "Don't let the flag touch the ground", "Don't disrespect the military uniform.", and "Let's build statues to our Founding Fathers." Irony at it's finest.

    • @danielanthony256
      @danielanthony256 6 років тому +18

      Man so true. Honor the Fallen. Ect along with near worship of sports players and celebrities.

    • @mrsandmom5947
      @mrsandmom5947 6 років тому +2

      Jacob Barrett
      Oh and remove one of their statues..

    • @mantexas9033
      @mantexas9033 6 років тому +5

      Jacob Barrett perhaps, but it's still effeminate to let the flag touch the ground. It's slack and lazy.

    • @leejennifercorlewayres9193
      @leejennifercorlewayres9193 6 років тому +2

      Jacob Barrett Humans always have blind spots. The ability to connect like ideas needs to be cultivated.

    • @yahulwagoni4571
      @yahulwagoni4571 5 років тому +1

      Not at all. America is the finest expression of Natural Law. Catholics seek to subordinate America to the Roman Church. The evils of the Romans shall not prevail.

  • @danielanthony256
    @danielanthony256 6 років тому +50

    I love being Catholic . This society has it out for us to be ashamed of ourselves and our faith. I feel like we are going down with the ship . Well I welcome it. All hands on deck . Ave Maria

    • @jasonmuniz-contreras6630
      @jasonmuniz-contreras6630 4 роки тому +1

      It is the duty of the Catholic nobility and it's descendents to wage war against the bourgeoisie and it's state par excellence, The United States of America.

    • @lewing658
      @lewing658 Рік тому

      ​@@jasonmuniz-contreras6630 n no,vee are to wage we are waging war against the devil and evil in the whole world. But we are not waging war against the u.s. specifically. That's just false.

  • @checkmate36
    @checkmate36 6 років тому +50

    God bless this channel and the important videos it cranks out one after another. Truth will not be silenced.

    • @martinhouston5858
      @martinhouston5858 4 роки тому

      What truth is that Mike? The fact that the Catholic church has been backwards for and corrupt for hundreds of years... Heck we only started giving value to black people when it became politically correct. Now I know the church may seem unbiased but look at its history.... Are some truth for you.... Child abuse,. Cover up ... Truth only becomes visible through the debate and experiment...

    • @user-gd5dj2nj6c
      @user-gd5dj2nj6c Рік тому

      @@martinhouston5858 You sound like a gay Americanist

  • @IngenuousSoprano
    @IngenuousSoprano 5 років тому +13

    I've been Orthodox for four years, and I love my Catholic brothers and sisters. May God bless and keep all of you.

  • @theazure4171
    @theazure4171 6 років тому +22

    You are the most exemplary priest I have ever heard.
    Please clone yourself around 10,000 times.

  •  6 років тому +16

    3 Hail Mary s for the priest.

  • @andrewbeattieRAB
    @andrewbeattieRAB 6 років тому +7

    I was raised Presbyterian/Church of Scotland. I married my Catholic wife at 32 in a Catholic Church. So strong was my anti-Catholic upbringing, I was 49 and my parents had passed before I converted - my wife was absolutely ambivalent about my conversion. By the age of 55, I counted myself as a Traditional RC. Protestantism seems so empty now. V2 Churches are FULLY Roman Catholic but largely uncompelling. I fully the Traditional Church to return after I’m dead and gone.

  • @doneldamacdonnell8602
    @doneldamacdonnell8602 6 років тому +9

    I listened to all of Michael Davis talks more than once. He was a brilliant apologist.

  • @MW-eg4gu
    @MW-eg4gu 3 місяці тому +3

    I converted to Catholicism in 1970. I grew up in Mississippi, verrrry Protestant state. I am fond of my Mississippi youthful memories, but the ignorance about Catholicism is both appalling and fascinating. I have made a study of my fellow Americans and especially their Puritanism and its anti-intellectualism.

  • @frankoshea
    @frankoshea 6 років тому +22

    That explains quite a bit!

  • @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181
    @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181 6 років тому +7

    The Magna Carta, a CATHOLIC document, is largely credited with the composition of the Constitution of these United States of America

  • @silvestromedia
    @silvestromedia 6 років тому +3

    One of the very best videos ever made. Everyone please use the SHARE function and re-post to all social media. Thank you for posting.!!!

  • @johnsantony4697
    @johnsantony4697 6 років тому +5

    Let us pray together unceasingly for the whole world . Not just for America . Let The Holy Fire of Gospel spread across the globe and light up all the Souls .

    • @GABRIELLA3254
      @GABRIELLA3254 3 роки тому

      Well it spread in Europe, not in the rest of the world although they don't really care

  • @jessec2138
    @jessec2138 6 років тому +9

    God bless you Father!

  • @tipofmytongue1024
    @tipofmytongue1024 6 років тому +13

    "The Separation of Church and State" is nowhere to be found in the Constitution or the Declaration of Independence. Just FYI.

    • @Drew15000
      @Drew15000 6 років тому +2

      Have you never even read the first amendment to the constitution?
      “Amendment I
      Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the government for a redress of grievances.”

  • @st_robert_bellarmine
    @st_robert_bellarmine 5 років тому +5

    In Testem Benevolentiae Nostrae, Pope Leo XIII points out that "Americanism" should only be condemned if that term is being used to describe the view of those who “would have the Church in America to be different from what it is in the rest of the world.” In other words, there is nothing wrong with "Americanism" if that term is being used to describe all of those teachings of St. Robert Bellarmine that we find in the Declaration of Independence (viz.: political power and rights come from God; all men are created equal; political power is given by the consent of the people to the government; governments are instituted to secure people’s rights; and the people can alter or abolish their form of government if there be legitimate cause).

  • @jemill65
    @jemill65 2 роки тому +3

    God bless you for this great sermon.

  • @st_robert_bellarmine
    @st_robert_bellarmine 5 років тому +4

    Pope Leo XIII's “admiration for the Constitution of the United States”:
    “We wish that Your Eminence would express to the President [Grover Cleveland] all our admiration for the Constitution of the United States, not only because it permits active, intelligent citizens to achieve such a high level of prosperity, but also because under its protection, Catholics have enjoyed a liberty that has undoubt-edly spurred their extraordinary religious development in the past and that will permit them we believe to further America’s political institutions in the future.” ~ Pope Leo XIII, in a letter to the Cardinal of Baltimore, 1887 (1)
    Notes:
    1. Zaratti, Alfonso, The Work of the Catholic Church in the United States of America (Rome: Nardini, 1956) p. 271.

  • @alanbourbeau24
    @alanbourbeau24 Рік тому +2

    Being a sincere practicing Catholic Christian in America 🇺🇸 can be a challenging and overwhelming and why is that? Well because not everyone in America is Catholic Christian. Some of them could be Protestant, Jewish, Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu, atheistic and Jehovah Witnesses. As a sincere practicing Catholic Christian and a Knight of Columbus in America, it can be a challenge for me because anyone who I encounter especially at work, some of the employees may not be Catholic like myself and when I go to work, I can’t discuss religion. But I can do my prayers before going to work and when I go on my break, I can say a meal prayer. And my question is, can anyone be a sincere practicing Catholic Christian and work in the federal government or become a Supreme Court judge? Because there are a few Supreme Court judges who are Catholic Christian. Clarence Thomas, Brett Kavanaugh, Amy Coney Barret. In the case of Amy Coney Barret, when she was selected to become the Supreme Court judge, Republican senators were pleased to have her as a Supreme Court judge. But Democratic senators weren’t happy with her at all. The Democratic senators were concerned and saw her as a religious zealot. Which she isn’t. She’s just taking her job seriously and her Catholic faith as well.

  • @crusaderI969
    @crusaderI969 6 років тому +14

    I love my country and pray for it's conversion.
    Note the colors of the wings of the angel in the Image of Our Lady of Guadalupe: red, white and blue.
    God Bless America.

  • @toddcarver1430
    @toddcarver1430 6 років тому +14

    I love this. Thank you for the history lesson. Let's rid ourselves of abortion... How can any Christian, let alone Catholic, support it? God bless you!

  • @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181
    @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181 6 років тому +5

    Jesus Christ the King of the Universe & Nations Throughout the Ages Viva Cristo Rey ✝ 💗✝🇺🇸

  • @andrewbeattieRAB
    @andrewbeattieRAB 6 років тому +5

    Excellent Video!

  • @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181
    @howdydocowgirlcowgirl181 6 років тому +5

    The Constitution was written by use of the Magna Carta, a very Catholic Document

  • @vragenstaatvrij777
    @vragenstaatvrij777 6 років тому +9

    A remarkable and very necessary preaching. May I alert my American brothers to the fact that the German bishops spoke out against nazism on a conference in 1931. They explicitly condemned the harsh nationalistic tone of nazism which they declared to be contradictory to all christian teachings.
    The German Catholic clergy repeated the same message in Berlin 1934.
    Needless to say that the Catholic Church was severely persecuted by the nazi officials. In 1933 Germany counted 400 daily publications, in 1936 none. In 1939 10.000 Catholic schools were destroyed and Catholic children forced to go to nazi-schools where the evangelicals ruled. Thousands of nuns, monks, priests and laymen were arrested.
    The America first slogan isn't christian, nor is Trump the tool of a divine entity as so many evangelicals claim. Nor are the EU, Canada, China or Mexico the enemies of the US as Trump declared today again in an interview with CBS.
    I foresee major difficulties for the Catholic Church in the US in nearby future.

    • @leejennifercorlewayres9193
      @leejennifercorlewayres9193 6 років тому +3

      pieter lucas maria lemmens You and the Nazis have the same enemy. You need to fight a war, not play pacifist. The world has one unique shared enemy and that is the communists. When the Church gets infiltrated by these people, those outside the Church think your pacifism is letting the enemy grow which indeed it really does!!! The Church is now in threat of total annihilation at the hands of the communist. You need to unite with everyone facing down this mortal enemy or we are ALL going to be eliminated!!!

    • @CatholicTraditional
      @CatholicTraditional 6 років тому +2

      Don't compare the Nazi's to Trump; two different ideas. If it weren't for his election Christianity would be criminalized and I wouldn't be alive typing this response. The real traitors are most of the U.S. bishops, who don't care for real American Catholics within their dioceses, but rather get rid of ICE. Mexico actually has done more damage to the USA sending people up here who don't want to assimilate. The EU will collapse in a few years, Canada is losing steam under Justin Bieber Trudeau, and Nixon should've never went to China because they've actually have been adversaries by stealing our intellectual property. Today's Vatican, sadly, is a commie puppet state where Bergoglio favors the Chinese commie puppet bishops.

    • @vragenstaatvrij777
      @vragenstaatvrij777 6 років тому +2

      CatholicTraditional Start your own protest cult.

    • @leejennifercorlewayres9193
      @leejennifercorlewayres9193 6 років тому +3

      pieter lucas maria lemmens You need to see eye-to-eye with more people than you think. Americans are all brainwashed to believe that the German people were bad and that the Jewish people were good. We have been totally lied too.

    • @vragenstaatvrij777
      @vragenstaatvrij777 6 років тому +1

      Evangelicals sound very brainwashed in my ears. I think that the tradition (we cherish a tradition outside the bible) protects us from fundamentalism and all too outlandish doctrines.
      The resistance of the Catholic church against the nazi regime is underreported. Not only German but also Polish, Dutch, Belgian, French catholic clergy resiled the nazi occupation.

  • @dorianlelong
    @dorianlelong 2 роки тому +3

    Yes, "Apologia Pro Marcel Lefebvre", a wonderful work by Michael Davies, available from Angelus Press.

  • @MovieTrackMan
    @MovieTrackMan 2 роки тому +1

    Father, thank you for speaking so plainly and honestly. You are absolutely spot on, I have heard priest going soft when it comes to the founding fathers and their errors in developing the Constitution. These priests seem to struggle with the sentimentality of their temporal citizenry and prefer Americanism over there eternal citizenry of heaven.

  • @youkokun
    @youkokun 6 років тому +3

    I believe that my Catholic faith is compatible with most aspects of U.S. society and that enacting Catholic doctrine in public policy would do much good (i.e. marriage, drugs, imago dei), but then again, no State has escaped corruption, so I'm happy to criticize the secular State when it goes against Catholic values and criticize my local diocese for the same. Islam is always political, and we know that that theocracy is necessarily oppressive. I agree with Fr.s points about liberalism creeping into the American Church, but we should take care to recognize the Catholic nation-states of the past, their corruption and violence. Theocracy would demean the Faith.

  • @st_robert_bellarmine
    @st_robert_bellarmine 5 років тому +1

    The Declaration of Independence: "An Accurate Transcript of the Catholic Mind"
    “If the Declaration [of Independence] is ‘an expression of the American mind,’ it is, to say the least, somewhat remarkable that it should be such an accurate transcript of the Catholic mind.” ~ Rev. Dr. Alfred O’Rahilly, recipient of The Order of St. Gregory the Great and President of University College Cork, 1919 (1)
    Notes:
    1. O’Rahilly, Alfred, “The Sources of English and American Democracy,” (Studies: An Irish Quarterly Review, Vol. 8, No. 30, Irish Province of the Society of Jesus, June, 1919), p. 209.

  • @desertrat1111
    @desertrat1111 Рік тому

    I made the mistake of transferring in my junior year of high school from a Catholic high school to a public high school. It was a real eye opener as I had gone to anything other than a Catholic school. Now , of course, this was back in the 60s.

  • @chrisharrelson178
    @chrisharrelson178 5 років тому +3

    This all may be true but Catholic France , Catholic Italy and much of Catholic Europe are much worse off than the USA. spiritually. I live in Louisiana and our churches are full on Sunday

    • @erics7992
      @erics7992 3 роки тому +8

      All of those countries started having their own problems right around the time the United States was founded. And there is more to Catholic life than full churches on Sunday.

    • @dylanrunner2001
      @dylanrunner2001 3 роки тому +2

      Louisiana is a very catholic area of the US

  • @imalive4u169
    @imalive4u169 6 років тому +8

    The Church at one time encouraged Catholics not to acknowledge Protestants as Christans. The reason why because Protestantism is not orthodoxy Christianity. By acknowledging a Protestant that they are Christans your enabling others a false belief that Protestantism is orthodoxy Christianity which they are not. Protestantism is heterodoxy.
    We know by Baptism a person is a Christian but like I stated Catholics shouldn't acknowledge Protestants as Christans even though by their Baptism they are Christians as separated brothers and sisters in the Church the Universal Church the Catholic Church.

    • @ACF1901
      @ACF1901 4 роки тому +2

      The baptism is catholic if it's trinitarian (i.e. the original and mortal sins previous to thr baptism are washed awat), but their adherence to false doctrines cuts them off from the Church.

    • @red7model7
      @red7model7 7 місяців тому

      Precisely, traditional Catholicism is the same Christianity, protestantism is not under any circumstance. That’s created by the evil system to confuse and water down/dissolve the true Christendom. Absolutely correct and ever more all time what the Catholic Church (not VCII sect) encouraged actual faithful, we must not acknowledge them at all. Cheers!

  • @st_robert_bellarmine
    @st_robert_bellarmine 5 років тому +1

    Bellarmine’s Theory of Government: Acted on by the Framers of the American Constitution
    “Bellarmine’s teaching on the subject of the State and of law and government is, in its more characteristic and fundamental points, the same as the theory acted on by those chiefly responsible for the framing and the sound and successful interpretation of our American Constitution.” ~ Rev. Moorhouse F.X. Millar, S.J., Head, Department of Political Science, Fordham University, New York, 1930 (1)
    Notes:
    1. Millar, Moorhouse F.X., “Bellarmine and the American Constitution,” (Studies: An Irish Quarterly Review, Vol. 19, No. 75, Irish Province of the Society of Jesus, September, 1930), p. 361.

  • @st_robert_bellarmine
    @st_robert_bellarmine 5 років тому +1

    The American Principles of Government: Stated and Defended in Advance by St. Robert Bellarmine
    “Bellarmine, strange as it may seem, has perhaps the greatest claim to the gratitude of the people of the United States, because he stated and defended in advance those principles of government which the United States have made their own and upon which their government firmly rests. If we of the United States were to have a patron - and in our case a political - saint (Protestant in large part though we be), we might indeed do well to choose the Cardinal and sainted Bellarmine.” ~ James Brown Scott, Professor of International Law, Roman Law and Jurisprudence in Georgetown University, 1939 (1)
    Notes:
    1. Scott, James Brown, Law, the State, and the International Community, Vol. I (New York: Columbia University Press, 1939), p. 546.

  • @danieldrazenovich935
    @danieldrazenovich935 6 років тому +1

    Read Dave Wemhoff's book.John Courtney Murray, Time/Life, and the American Proposition. This book tells it all.
    5.0 out of 5 stars (3)

  • @dannyharvanek3908
    @dannyharvanek3908 9 місяців тому

    The argument - Declaration of Independence ) “the laws of nature & of natures God” - principle of America the natural & divine law ? - the argument goes on )

  • @silvestromedia
    @silvestromedia 6 років тому +1

    Scorecard for usa/uk -- who is who and what is what. and why only the Holy Catholic Church is in Heaven. Roman Catholic community - Church and state together, with the Pope, Anglican community Church and State together without the Pope. Non-conformist, community State and church separate, no pope and no catholic identity.

  • @juliosumarriva3034
    @juliosumarriva3034 11 місяців тому

    Where is the Catholic social teaching?

  • @adrianvasquez254
    @adrianvasquez254 25 днів тому

    12:32 there should be a separation of church and state in any country. Freedom of religion? Ever heard of it? If everyone in USA was forced into Catholicism, even Christianity, is that not any different than Christians or Catholics being forced into Islam, Hinduism, or Judaism somewhere else? Shouldn’t we be followers of Christ by free will and not by force?

  • @user-ji2on8eg3l
    @user-ji2on8eg3l 10 місяців тому

    Saint John 19:11
    Jesus answered [him], “You would have no power over me if it had not been given to you from above. For this reason the one who handed me over to you has the greater sin.”

  • @escopiliatese3623
    @escopiliatese3623 2 роки тому +2

    That Jefferson quote is almost certainly false; he was friends with a Catholic Cardinal.

    • @zsedcftglkjh
      @zsedcftglkjh Рік тому

      You find that the priests who rail hardest against "Americanism" know very little of American tradition.

    • @TheNewNationPodcast
      @TheNewNationPodcast Рік тому

      it isn't it's right there in his letter to Horatio G. Spafford, 17 March 1814

  • @luisarashirovideo
    @luisarashirovideo 2 роки тому +1

    Yes to popery, No to pope Bergoglio

  • @leejennifercorlewayres9193
    @leejennifercorlewayres9193 6 років тому +1

    I listen to both sides. Everyone is basically programmed to say that their way is the only way and to talk bad about the others. Why not just agree to disagree and love one another as Jesus commanded us to do. We really need to follow his commandments on this for the precise reason that he gave us to do it. 😊

    • @leevjr686
      @leevjr686 6 років тому +8

      Because only The Catholic goes by what Christ says .... in Tradition and Scripture. A Perfect God does not establish some "multiple choice" form of worship. The primary work of Jesus and Mary in the world is The One Holy Catholic and Apostolic Church that came to grow from the Great Commission (Matt. 28:18-20). Seeking to love others is a lesser intention than to love God. Seek ye first the Kingdom of God (Matt 6:33).

    • @herptek
      @herptek 6 років тому +3

      Lee Jennifer Corlew Ayres "I listen to both sides."
      There are fundamentally only 2 sides that matter, good and evil, God and the devil, truth and error. If one is not fully on board with the good side one is rendered property of the enemy. This is very important thing to understand. If we have any charity at all we have to correct those in error lest they become victims of the devil. There are many forces at play in the modern world trying to convince us that good and evil are equal and both sides should be listened, but this is a great error. We have to unite on the basis of truth. You are right in that we have to follow the teachings of Jesus, but instead of only a few hand picked ones, all of them, and understood correctly. Including these:
      Matthew 10:34: "Do not imagine that I have come to bring peace to the earth; I have come to bring a sword, not peace. I have come to set a man at variance with his father, and the daughter with her mother, and the daughter-in-law with her mother-in-law; a man’s enemies will be the people of his own house. He is not worthy of me, that loves father or mother more; he is not worthy of me, that loves son or daughter more; he is not worthy of me, that does not take up his cross and follow me. He who secures his own life will lose it; it is the man who loses his life for my sake that will secure it. He who gives you welcome, gives me welcome too; and he who gives me welcome gives welcome to him that sent me."
      Luke 10:16: "He who listens to you, listens to me; he who despises you, despises me; and he who despises me, despises him that sent me."
      John 5:24: "Believe me when I tell you this, the man who listens to my words, and puts his trust in him who sent me, enjoys eternal life; he does not meet with rejection, he has passed over already from death to life. 25 Believe me, the time is coming, nay, has already come, when the dead will listen to the voice of the Son of God, and those who listen to it will live. 26 As the Father has within him the gift of life, so he has granted to the Son that he too should have within him the gift of life, 27 and has also granted him power to execute judgement, since he is the Son of Man."
      ua-cam.com/video/C_dxlg5oQQU/v-deo.html
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      * Mark 16:15 "And he said to them, Go out all over the world and preach the gospel to the whole of creation; 16 he who believes and is baptized will be saved; he who refuses belief will be condemned."
      ua-cam.com/video/ZxyHh4MfA8M/v-deo.html

    • @lorimav
      @lorimav 6 років тому +2

      herptek Well written, thank you for taking the time to explain. People don't seem to understand that there is only one truth and the consequences of settling for less than the fullness of truth can be disasterous. People think that we are prideful people and want to have our way and it causes division. What about the possibility that we are motivated towards love and the salvation of souls and those who say we should "agree to disagree" are motivated more by human respect than true love of God and neighbor.

    • @erics7992
      @erics7992 3 роки тому +2

      To agree to disagree on certain subjects is a mortal sin.

  • @petercarlson811
    @petercarlson811 6 років тому +5

    Kind of silly allegory there in the beginning since there are no such thing as good or bad trees. Neither good or bad fruits.

    • @petercarlson811
      @petercarlson811 6 років тому

      If a tree produce tasty fruit one year and less tasty fruit another year is it so hard to see that it has nothing to do with the tree but the conditions surrounding the tree when the fruits were produced that influenced the taste. The tree doesn't change much from year to year part from growing a little. It still has the same genetic information. It stands in the same spot. But what differs is what quality of water it is given, how much sunlight of which frequencies and the composition of nutrients. That is what differs from year to year.
      There are a whole bunch of trees producing fruits not suitable for human consumption at all but various animals still benefit from those. Are those bad?

    • @herptek
      @herptek 6 років тому +4

      Peter Carlson ... I guess there are only edgy nihilists then, who think they are more clever than God himself.
      "15 Be on your guard against false prophets, men who come to you in sheep’s clothing, but are ravenous wolves within. 16 You will know them by the fruit they yield. Can grapes be plucked from briers, or figs from thistles? 17 So, indeed, any sound tree will bear good fruit, while any tree that is withered will bear fruit that is worthless; 18 that worthless fruit should come from a sound tree, or good fruit from a withered tree, is impossible. 19 Any tree which does not bear good fruit is cut down, and thrown into the fire. 20 I say therefore, it is by their fruit that you will know them."
      *Moral realism is at the very core of christianity from the ten commandments on. We can and must judge the value of created things.

    • @petercarlson811
      @petercarlson811 6 років тому

      I still say that is a silly allegory. Fuits are a way for plants to spread their seeds. Most fruit producing trees or bushes are not, nor have they ever been, consumed by humans. There is like a gazillion other living beings on this planet who find use for them.

    • @herptek
      @herptek 6 років тому +2

      Right use of a thing is not determined by its fellow creatures, but rather is intrinsic. A thing can be said to be good when it fullfils its objective purpose and not when it is misused for some disordered purpose. There can be such a thing as a lesser good though.
      You are judging an allegory used by God himself. I don't think that is wise.

    • @petercarlson811
      @petercarlson811 6 років тому

      Herptek, ask the tree what the right use of its fruits are. Since the tree can't answer us we have to use other means to figure this out. To look at the fruits from the trees perspective can give us an idea. God wants us to use our brains. Asking him why or how has never and will never offend him.

  • @jstube36
    @jstube36 6 років тому +1

    How backward. Tyranny is tyranny. Let's keep in mind that so many came and still come to these shores to escape such religious intolerance as espoused by this preacher. Our Constitution, especially the 1st Amendment is in place so that no religions cannot dictate our laws and regulations. Sadly such tyranny still exists today in places like Saudi Arabia and Iran. Where women are treated as less than 2nd class citizens. The people in those places live in misery under such draconian and outdated laws. So maybe this preacher should check himself and thank his God that we are indeed secular.

    • @josephtopete1492
      @josephtopete1492 6 років тому +4

      Asshole are you for real?What about the tyranny America faces now with the metoo hash tag where any man can face prison over false allegations?Islamic Sharia is being pushed by feminists that complain about male oppression.Yet this metoo movement is a subtle form of Sharia in the guise of justice.Secularism is cowardice.

    • @jstube36
      @jstube36 6 років тому

      You are quite misinformed. First of all any so-called feminist would have nothing to do with any outdated religious laws. If there is at least one thing the "founding-fathers" got right, was to make sure that anyone in this land has the FREEDOM to follow any god, gods, goddesses, or no god at all. And you would call in an instant for Secularism if tomorrow the leaders passed a law that forces any one religion to be the law of this or any land. After all God made us human not robots.

    • @josephtopete1492
      @josephtopete1492 6 років тому +6

      As only a robot would say.

    • @herptek
      @herptek 6 років тому +8

      jstube36 "First of all any so-called feminist would have nothing to do with any outdated religious laws."
      But they have much to do with novel ideological laws arbitrarily made up on the fly.
      Secularism can not stand. It is like a cultural immune system failure, a mobilisation of the culture against its own defenders. Secular governents are a process of turning culture into totalitarian dictatorships of one kind or another, domestic or alien.

    • @jstube36
      @jstube36 6 років тому +1

      It's obvious you have no clue what Secular means. In means that no one religious body can pass or enforce laws of the land. That means a Hindu would not have to live under Muslim laws. Or a Jew would not have to submit to Cristian law. Or an Atheist would not have to submit tto any religious laws. Secular in a word means FREEDOM. A word that runs afoul of most religious extremists. Again that word is FREEDOM.