Why Paste Wax is Worth It - Wood Finishing
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- Опубліковано 27 тра 2020
- So, yep! I finished this midcentury modern hall table during this, oh, lockdown of sorts and here's how I finished it. A coat of oil to give it color, a couple coats of urethane to make it tough, and a coat of paste wax to give it a bit of.... shall we say, je ne sais quoi. Here's how it goes
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Mark is my favorite teacher. He tells you not just what but why. His videos are inspiring and fun to watch. Thanks Mark keep up the good work!
I’ve been on here for tips on refinishing a small table, but stumbling upon videos like these, just make me wanna go into woodworking. This is the first video of yours that I see and I love what you did with this table. The mid century modern style with the practical add ons is top notch!
Stick around, bud!!
Geez.. I am such an idiot sometimes.. I have used paste wax for decades for all the things you have mentioned.. and since I have used it for all this time I just figured every one else knew about it.. (after all most of my friends are woodworkers..) But watching this reminded me that we have another generation of new wood workers out there that have never thought or been taught about this.. I had my business for about 25 years and was never a good teacher because I would always forget to teach the basics.. I am glad that your generation has picked up where we left off and is now show the youngers (on video nonetheless!) how to do it.. and you are remembering the basic.. well done son! Just know that the older generation of woodworkers is proud of what you are doing! Carry on!
I love mid-century modern, that's a great looking piece!
The table turned out SO awesome!!! Beautiful design and thanks for all the tips along the way!
Mark, you are absolutely NOT the only one to appreciate it! I’m certain that many others like me do for sure. Thank you for another great video. I’m still catching up on some videos from the channel and loving every minute. 👍🏻
Hey thank you so much 👍👍👍
General Finishes are the best. I love them.
Good Job, Mark. This is the best surface treatment one can do--I've been doing exactly that for the past 40 years on all my finished projects. And it seems to last--and last--and last.
Absolutely love these videos and you have the best attitude around. Helps me step it up a notch or 2. Thanks.
Thanks for the video Mark! I can't recommend polishing with paste wax and finishing pad or 0000 steel wool enough. Not only does the surface get a nice soft sheen and the most amazing touch, it is also a fool-proof way to even out any imperfections in the finish.
Beautiful table! Thank you for sharing this!
That's a gorgeous piece.
Thank you sir.
Smarter Every Day- wood working edition.
Beautiful table.
I think you're the poster child for "good attitude" Loved the wood I purchased from you guys and looking forward to buying some more!
Those inlays are siiiiick. Crazy mad skill.
Gorgeous!
Awesome table Mark love the detailed inlays.
Always appreciate the explanations and tips. 👍
I gave you a thumb up for the good instruction and the hat. I was born and raised in the valley of the sun.
I my self do not use paste wax on my projects. I found that over time the wax holds dirt and dulls the look over time. I personally burnish my projects and I sand to a very high grit to make a glass smooth surface. Great tips and awesome design!
Like! You, your atitude, table, buffing! I did not do any wax buffing before on my projects, but I know the feel when people go 'uuuu' when they touch that silky smooth surface you made!
Beautiful job.
Great video, love the finish paste wax gives even on top of poly. Quick tip, some waxes may take longer to dry and you might need to leave them to dull up and go matte first so that they can dry onto the surface. Some waxes say leave it 10-15mins some even 30mins so that the beeswax can dry and the solvent can evaporate. Then come back and buff it to a shine. 👍
Grain lines are beautifully matched and the handles and inlays further the artists touch. Great piece.
Thank you so much 👍👍
Looks professional and showroom New! Loved the background music.. usually I don't but that was very very mellow great job👍🏼
AGREED. Paste wax offers an authentic feel and look. So much better than the hard, cold feel of the plastic polyurethanes. 👏👏👏
I especially like the inlays.
Love it. So talented!
Mark, I am in awe of the cleanliness of your shop!!!!
haha, don't be fooled by the camera angle :-)
And never trust the guy who has a clean shop
@@WoodworkersSourcecom Mark, We have done business fortoo many years for me not to trust you......LOL
Wow! Love, love, love your design. Just gorgeous and cool as hell.
Thanks! 👍👍
Great design!
Always enjoy your videos great energy good information a lot of good common sense and techniques!
Amazing. I have only been working towards building furniture, and setting up a shop in order to do so. For a couple years. And I had no idea. I do use paste wax on sleds and that sort of thing. So im excited to try this on my next project. Thanks a bunch for another great tip my friend. And another great video. Good work.
Right on! Glad to help - thx
That is a beautiful beautiful piece you made. Love!
Thank you so much!
I use it on almost any piece I send out the door but I use the Howard’s citrus shield premium paste wax if you ever can buy this paste wax and it triumphs over the other ones seriously try it out and also I always use a white 3-m finish woven synthetic pad on my small electric hand buffer to buff it of after I let it dry try that also and it makes it shines more and push it deeper into the wood as it heats it up with more friction and if you use the electric buffer the paste wax will last at least 2-3 times longer on the wood than buffing by hand
I like your style
Really really niceeeee
If you put a blob of it in a rag you can apply it pretty quickly.
That’s a nice table !!
Beautiful drawer pulls man. That really completes the look perfectly.
Thanks a bunch!
Very nice
I do something quite similar and what a difference it makes. You’re right that the camera doesn’t do it justice!
Love your energy, wish you were my neighbor!
Love the closing statement about others appricateing it if not just you! I do a lot of thing that make me feel good and no one around me gets it! But I'm in the same camp as you! But I always wonder why the don't! 🤔😜🤔🤪
beautiful table!!!
been looking around for a positive attitude...can't find what shelf that's on....
Hey man you had some old videos about wood grain filler. Can you talk more about wood grain filling, why and when it’s needed, different filling options and techniques, maybe for different woods? I’m building instruments and those usually have very flat even finishes.
I'd love to see how you made and fastened your drawer pulls.
Recently, I’ve been seeing a lot of resto guys using Feed-N-Wax on the inside of the drawers.
Yep, that’s good stuff too
nice
Terrific on pastewax. I used Howard’s Feed n aeax on new redwood drawer faces (orange oil n beeswax). Think needs more protection. Can I use pastewax?
How'd you make the pulls for the drawers?
Thats beautiful nice work....lol i like the comment about your are the only one in your house that will appreciate it. that's so true.
If I buy more towels can I forego the positive attitude? Thanks for the content, keep up the good work!
the answer is yes 😇😇😇😇😇
can i use car paste wax? like carnuba wax from 3m/turtle wax? my table already polyurethane finished i planning to sanded and polishising with car polish compound , do i need wax again for protection? does wax wear off if i use the table indoors? do i need to replaced wax periodically?
sorry for too many questions
TIA
I am installing walnut butcher block countertops and am looking for recommendations for a finish. They are for the look mainly. We don't like the plasticy look of poly. We have 4 kids at home so it will see some abuse. Do you have any suggestions?
Question - is there a big difference among brands? i noticed the brand of wax you use, and there are 2 or 3 others that are highly recommended. just wondering how different they are from each other, if at all.
Hey Mark, can you post a link for the finishing pads you used here please. Thanks in advance.
Its easi when u do it on all ready finish bench or not. Gotcha
The bench looks awesome!! What are the black parts of the table. Looks like epoxy and classy but all I hear is usually hate for epoxy from true wood workers.
Also I’ve used paste wax before on a finished table but throughout the days some spots made it into some wood grain and turned white, is that because I didn’t have a thick enough finish on it to fill the grain completely?
Can you use this to seal timber for framing?
How long should I wait after applying my final coat of water based poly on my dining table before applying the wax?
Thanks for the awesome video! I am about to finish up my wood project, just want to ask if paste wax and finishing wax two different things or the same? Thanks
More or less the same
How do you keep from having swirling?
1. Can i apply paste wax after wipe on poly?
2. Is wax coat suitable for moist area like bathroom vanity?
is it ok over polyurethane?
Another great video Mark, really neat table. got a question: since you used Walrus oil initially, why not use walrus paste wax as well instead of the other paste wax which, I believe, is mostly carnauba wax?
Thanks Hal! There was no sophisticated reason for choosing one brand or type over the other. The one I used is the one that I had.
Does it help or hurt in dusty environments?
What kind of wood is that made out of. Looks like White Oak?
I noticed you use straight up and down movements when buffing, I learned to use circular motions. Is there a correct method or just whatever floats your boat?
Good catch. Was taught to go circular for a few moments and then with the grain.... no idea which way provides best result though
Thanks for your videos and advice... One question, I have just finished a pine table with tung oil, however the color turned a bit yellow and I was wondering if I can apply some white wax in order to give a bit of white wash apparence to my table. Are tung oil and wax compatible?
Hey Mark, cool vids, loved the Walnut one! Question on wax, is there, what is, the difference between, say, a Minwax and a Turtle Wax, aka car wax?
Actually not too sure what the differences are, or if there are any
Hey Mark, looking forward to trying your technique out on my project (walnut & hard maple).. you mention using Warus Oil (oil based) to bring out the color prior to adding Arm-R-Seal. Curious where/if/when Aqua Coat would come into play if using as a grain filler. If not you, does anyone know if Aqua Coat (water based) could be added AFTER applying Walrus Oil, then sanded down with 220 BEFORE using Arm-R-Seal... before finally getting to the finishing touch with wax paste? Trying to figure out how to work Walrus oil into the mix...
Usually a water based filler should be applied to bare wood. Then the finish on top of it.
@@WoodworkersSourcecom Thanks Mark, that helps. I read an article where it mentioned to use oil to bring out the grain prior to using a grain sealer. Anyway, I followed your method without applying Aqua Coat and turned out beautifully!
I'm using the past wax on a dining table and planning to apply 2 coats. Can the 2nd coat be applied 30 minutes after the 1st? And how long does it need to cure or sit without using the table? THANKS!
Could depend on the brand but it only needs 10 minutes or so. Basically the solvent in the wax needs to evaporate
I'm restoring a dark wood display cabinet (call it teak or walnut for arguments sake). I've nearly done sanding it down and I love the lighter wood. I did a test patch with teak oil and it instantly went super dark with a deep warm orangey colour. I mean that's also nice and makes the grain look a bit more holographic-ish...but I love the ashy sanded colour of the actual wood. So I assume I can't just leave it unfinished because it'll still oxidise or get sun damage or whatever? Any ideas on what can I do that will affect it the least? wax/soap/ some kind of varnish. Like I just want to protect it a little and keep the sanded colour
Usually a water based finish will have the least effect on the natural color, no enhancing. Wax would have a little more effect but would be less involved to apply it. So there’s that.
Getting ready to stain an unfinished dresser, what would you recommend for inside of drawers? Thnx man
inside of drawers, anything works. Leave them raw, apply just wax, or apply the same top coat that you're using on the rest of it. Inside of drawers don't get too beat up, so viirtuaally anything will work just fine.
What screws to use on 2x4?
Question: we painted our laminate countertops and "finished" it with polyurethane. Would this also work on that? We have tried to get the polyurethane on nice and even but we just cant get it right. Would waxing fix it? The top coat is sanded but now you see the dull spots
Waxing will help, but it'll be even better if you sand the polyurethane smooth first. You might have to apply and sand the polyurethane two ro three times to get it perfect.
Hello...
From Malaysia....
Can I use beeswax for a tabletop cutting board I'm making?
Will it provide some degree of waterproofing?
I was thinking to soak the wood in mineral oil, then after a few days and coats, cover in several thin coats of beeswax.
Any thoughts?
How long would this last on a higher use top such as a coffee table or dining table?
Wax doesn't last long at all under those conditions (maybe an annual recoating, give or take), but the argument for it is that it's the first line of defense to protect the rest of your finish. It's easier to apply a fresh coat of wax than it is to strip and refinish, for example, a scratched or chipped urethane finish.
hello Sir, can we apply wax on bare sanded wood ? i don't want to change wood colour with any penetrating oil ? does wax seals wood grain/fibre ?
Yes on all counts
There was amazing me how companies slaps on a label on a bottle fills up with some mineral oil and some other voodoo and people Rave about it! It's if you can't buy mineral oil by itself! Or any of the other oils. I just find it funny. SDS sheets will tell you everything if you're interested! Columbus Michigan
How do you clean it properly? Does dust stick to it more?
Dust doesn’t seem to stick more fortunately. A damp rag is the best way to clean anything made from wood, but especially so if it’s waxed.
Just to be clear, is the finishing pad you are using the same as a between coats pad?
Actually use the finest one you have.
@@WoodworkersSourcecom Thank you, I very much appreciate you reply.
Mark quick question, you said you used 3/4 white oak ply. I’m wondering how your edges look beveled at the front. The drawers sit inside what it looks like a beveled edge. Maybe the angle of camera is giving me this appearance but if it is ply wouldn’t the MDF layer show if you did bevel back the edge? Great work and channel. Thanks for the videos.
The plywood has a solid wood edge to cover up the core, about 1" wide. So that gave enough "meat" to make the bevel 👍
Woodworkers Source, Mark I have to say, I am blown away at your response time. That is highly unusual these days. This makes so much more sense now. I was super confused at first.
Woodworkers Source I have another question for you. What was your choice of method cutting the bevel on the edge? I noticed your a festool guy. Did you use the Festool Track Saw? Or did you just run it through your Table Saw? I have a project coming up build a rain water feature. I would like to 45 the edges for my corner joints. Also, I am cladding the Water feature. What would you recommend for the best Outdoor Lumber choice? I’m thinking of going with IPE and then some sort of stain or oil and sealed? Any recommendations? I noticed you were sealing your projects with Arm R Seal, but you sealed over the oil? I was told years ago to not seal over oil? Was I miss informed?
@@jcjohn782 Actually the bevel with a 22.5-degree edge bevel router bit, then softened over the corners and edges with a block plane and sanding. Ipe should be a good choice for the outdoor project, but it's a little hard to make a solid recommendation without knowing more about the project. In some situations it's not a sound idea to seal over an oil finish, but as long as the oil is cured you can put another finish on top of it with only a couple exceptions.
I put that stuff on everything but toast.
At least you know where to draw the line! 🤣
@@WoodworkersSourcecom I'm obsessed with slick and shiny. I have no idea why, but if I set something down, I want an air hockey table effect.
This looks really nice. I bought a bedside table from Wayfair and it feels dry. I guess that is the only way to describe it. I was thinking of putting a wax coating but I have no experience doing woodwork. I guess I could test it on the back?
Yes definitely
What if I can’t muster the positive attitude? 🤣
The beatings will cease when morale improves!!!!
@@WoodworkersSourcecom 🤣 Great line.
exposed plywood edges on such a gorgeous piece? WHHYYY???
so i guess if i have a negative attitude the finish is gointo be sticky instead of slidy :O
take your chances 😉
Love the sexy music...
What does "so yep" mean? lol...
Jeremy Renner waxes a table
🤣🤣🤣
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"You can see" no, we can't. Next time you film on the surface of the Sun, stop your camera down.
🫡 yessir
Gorgeous !