As someone getting into Silver Fox as a heritage breed that I can actually FIND in my area, I appreciate the work ppl like you have put into them! Excited to see more Creme d'argentes around in the future!
I’m glad you’re talking about this bittersweet decision because it’s part of your journey. My daughter raises chocolate silver foxes and your videos on breeding and birthing were really helpful to her with her first litter.
While I am sad to see you move away from the foxes, I am glad to see you following your passion and working with the Cremes. I got my first Silver fox about the time I found your channel & it was amazing to have someone who broke down evaluating breeding etc with the same breed I was starting with. So thank you for that. I will still be around to enjoy your videos & thanks for all you have done up until now. ❤
Yes you should definitely tan his hide and keep it as a memento as your last Silver Fox! Part of me is a little sad to see them go but now that I have my own breeding program for Silver Fox I can put my own energy into them and cheer you and your cremes on! Thank you for being one of the main educators for me on my silver fox journey!
Hi Tiffany! I never reached out before, but I felt I had to this time. I learned about your channel and the Livestock Conservancy last year when I was looking into starting my own rabbitry. I am starting with American Chinchillas because they were listed as Threatened. I was supposed to have my first litter by now, but something must have happened because the due date came and went without any babies. Now I just have a fat doe! Haha! Anyway, your build videos helped me plan my own hutch setup for my 5 starter rabbits. I'm still working out the kinks, but I appreciate your help along the way.
Hi there! First timer here! Nice to meet you. I’m subscribing based off this video alone because it takes a lot to do something you know is right when your heart is also pulling the other way. What a blessing to have had a front row seat in the development and saving the silvers. That’s not something that ever goes away! And now you can repeat it for the creams! My knowledge of rabbits is low but I am interested in breeding them for meat. I have a lot to learn and I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel!
I have watched your show videos but didn't get much into on where to find shows and how to know what to do. I am starting out with silver foxes. Do I have to join a club to breed? where do I find shows in my area and how to know how to get them ready? any info would be great. the videos I watched did not tell me where to go to start showing.
I bought two silver fox females a couple months back, I'd been looking in my area for some meat breeding rabbits and these two being the closest I looked at them and brought them home. So far my experience with them is not tame at all and require a lot of constraint if moving them, one was pregnant had her kits and as they grew old enough two were just crazy and one day leapt out of the cage, I could not capture them so after couple days they made it out of the shed, good I thought, I don't know what their father was but they were just crazy. The lady from whom I bought them seemed alright but said she was not going to raising rabbits for a while. I rebred the one mother and bred the other female with a new male who I think is just a mixed breed, both silver fox females seemed to allow the male do his job alright so they are good that way but otherwise I have mixed feeling about the silver fox.
When we started our Rabbit breeding journey we found your UA-cam channel and started with Silver Foxes because of your passion for the breed. Since then we have met Sherielu and Brittany and many others at shows and consider them good friends. We are still working on our Silver Foxes but lately have been drawn into New Zealands. We are very excited about our Next generation of Rabbits and as long as they excite us we will stay with them. We had a Black Senior Silver Fox doe place in the top 20 at Convention and were thrilled about that. I never dreamed that I would be so smitten by Rabbits, but I am. Thanks for your part in leading us on our Journey. We have made friends we would not have made without it and we are very appreciative for that.
They sure are beautiful, I breed New Zealand and California, i make blankets from there pelts. I love the breed. Thank you for sharing. Till next time God Bless. Oh we are so close to getting to 2k with our subscribers. Its so exciting.
My wife and I raise rabbits (her: dwarf varieties for show/pets, me: TAMUKs for meat). I can't imagine trying to merge those two objectives in a single herd! Must be a lot of work!
You have great rabbit husbandry, and have been highly educational. wish you the best in your Cream journey. We work with Blancs de Hotot, hoping to have my first litter with them soon.
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When i add rabbits in to our homestead this ia the breed i want. To enjoy, to eat and to also improve the breed. ❤
I am very sad to see you sale out of the Sliver Fox. They were one of the reasons I got into watching your Channel. BUT I am glad you are going forward and getting more into what you love. I wont leave your channel just cause you got out of the sliver fox. I am getting into rabbits for meat. I got some Rex's that will hopefully be able to breed soon. Watching your vids I have learned ALOT and it will help me into moving forward as well :).
My plan revolves around Champagne D'Argent, Creme D'Argent, and Silver Foxes. Their coats are absolutely stunning with their pale fur tips. I'm looking into the general Rex and Flemish Giant. They'd be devoted meat consumption does/crosses. I also plan on Harlequins, and they may become a priority considering the Livestock Conservancy. I have a lot of time on my hands while I'm new to rabbitry, and therefore don't show. It's what allows me to be so broad in my breed interests. However, my animal husbandry extends for years on my off-grid homestead, and while other livestock like my cattle and swine are hands-off, rabbitry is unique and more personal in a lot of ways. I enjoy it very much.
Tiffany I am very impressed with the aesthetics of your homestead. That is my goal as well when I move to Tenn. and start my own homestead. I met a breeder who suggested I raise Tamuks due to high summer temps. Your crème d’argents are beautiful though. I am learning as much as I can from you before then. You have been amazing. Would you consider a video on showing us your property, all your animal pens, barns , enclosures? There are so many ways to do things. I am also a fan of passing on tips and tricks other people have not figured out. Love all your painted rabbit hutches.
Thank you so much! 😊 eventually we will do a farm tour. After so many projects I am constantly picking up clutter and playing catch up. We’ll get there!
Normally you tan them with the fur on, not like leather from cattle. I have seen winter hats and slippers made from them, but if you are willing to sew multiple pelts together, you could certainly do blankets etc.
Glad found your channel live in northern Ohio. Building rabbit cages nice set up to harvest 200 pounds year or more. Plain on having set up first then find rabbits to buy. Looking for breeder to get good stock . Any help would be appreciated
I'm looking at a meat breed suitable to central FL, heritage breed would be nice, but I just want a rabbit that will be comfortable with our warm & humid climate. there are Cotton tails around, so something should work out. any recommendations?
Cottontails are not the same as our domestic rabbit. Our rabbits originated from european rabbits. I know several breeders that have Creme d’argents in Florida.
Do you have a video on how to pick your potential keep backs or your heavy culling process. I breed Rex and would like to do a better job at allowing better type only to be breeders. I mean do you just cull all except the best? What about parts rabbits?
Silver Fox have the highest percentage of meat compared to body weight at 67% dress out weight. Larger breeds have larger bones so the percentage of meat is less. Might want to go pure SF.
@@TealStoneHomestead ha! I have to tell myself constantly to keep my thoughts to myself, was going to work on a broken reza magpie but... I better just temper myself.
Sorry if this is too basic a question, something we should already know if our climate isn't extreme (I suspect "Florida White" has value for heat/humidity and possibly disease tolerance rather than pure productivity in terms of reproductive fecundity and grow out rate), but how would you rate Creme de Argents and Silver Foxes against the meat standards like California and New Zealand White. I can't imagine myself getting into the business/hobby of exhibiting them (that might change with kids and 4H as a possible education resource, but as a bachelor, that's not on the horizon), and while I can appreciate a beautiful animal, I don't take rabbit fur (except for felting?) very seriously, since I had bought a pelt as a kid when my parents were buying sheepskins as chair cushions, and thus came to realize that even commercial rabbit skins shed fur like a (living) cat does, rather than lasting a long time (like the sheep pelts and presumably the traditional furbearers like actual fox or weasels). The pelt of a young animal (the most economical and tender stage to harvest for meat if breeding isn't a goal being when they just reach mature size or just before they start to fight over mating, whichever comes first) will almost certainly be more fragile and thus have limited avenues for non-compost use (pillow stuffing?). So I anticipate caring first about climate, then meat productivity, ie fecundity and rapid growth.
A tanned rabbit pelt would only shed if it was not properly done. It’s called slipping and usually means it has been over-processed. If breed, look, or temperament is not a concern and you are just going for meat-producing abilities, I would recommend New Zealand.
I've had new Zealand white Californian,s chinchilla lots more live in uk starting with English after long absence from rabbits, as.a kid in England I had English and Dutch rabbits later my father emigrated to South Africa where after few years I had a Rabbitry mostly new Zealand white and Californian also chinchilla and new Zealand red / black lived there 18 years before coming back to England
Teal, I advise against rabbits freedom on the ground, with only a fence. In nature, they dig tunnels and you will lose control over them, with inability to separate them per sexes, with bucks killed by the does, with loses because they will break out through tunnels, and many litters lost to predators outside the fence. If you still want to do it, the fence must be able to keep the babies inside, and, at around 60 centimeters in the ground, you have to have a floor of mesh, connected to the fence. I mean, you still have natural dirt where they like to dig, but unable to escape. I'm telling you this from my experience. I guess you will transition completely to goats if your property can sustain the number of goats you need for that, and keep a nucleus or two of rabbits, ready to start again if there are problems with goats...
You seem to be torn between meat rabbits and "Show" rabbits. What is your recommendation for a "pure" meat rabbit producer who is not interested in showing the animals?
I’m not torn. This is a lifestyle and I like having a unique breed. For anyone that doesn’t care about the breed and just wants to produce meat, the New Zealand is the best.
@@undead_queer yeah exactly, it's a mix of six or seven breeds that isn't it's own breed. And yes, they are *more* heat tolerant (though that doesn't mean they do well in 80+ weather...they just tolerate it a bit better). TAMUK stands for "Texas A&M University - Kingston", where the mix was developed.
Stands for Texas A&M @Kingsville which is the college that developed the TAMUK composite. They have traits that make them desirable for meat production in hot climates including thinner hair, big ears, high growth rate and docile personalities. I’ve added them into my rabbitry here in Texas after that awful summer and so far I’m impressed with how well they are doing.
You should not house a buck with the does. You need to keep the buck separated with his wether friend at all times when not actively breeding. This is especially important for Nigerian Dwarf goats.
Soooo you keep them to feel the best of they life before processing them... but when I see your eyes, I was like yes you can kill even a human and I'd still be charmed by You... Is this wrong? :)
Before I bought my first rabbit, I knew I wanted to focus on only rare breed rabbits on livestock conservancy. Our homestead focuses on American Blue, Silver Fox, and American Chinchillas. Silver fox are definitely a great homestead rabbit or pet.
As a person raising silver fox rabbits i found this long winded, overly personal, and rather boring explanation complete ego garbage. You could have said what neede to be aaid in 3 minutes or less. You switched breeds? Good for you. Gawd what a waste of time. Sorry but thats how i feel. And my feelings are important. Blah blah blah.
Okay 😂 my feelings are important too. This is my channel and it is personal to me. If you can’t handle that or don’t like my personality, then please leave ✌️
@@TealStoneHomestead you put it out there i am just honestly responding. I did learn one thing. That silver's are not as endangered as when we started. Thank you for that. But if you dont like people being honest keep your page private. Thanks for the knowledge.
I was not expecting to tear up but well, here we are lol. Thank you for all you have done to contribute to Silver Fox. Even in a roundabout way, you’ll still be helping with general husbandry, care and of course- inspiration! 🖤🤎💙
As someone getting into Silver Fox as a heritage breed that I can actually FIND in my area, I appreciate the work ppl like you have put into them! Excited to see more Creme d'argentes around in the future!
Life is way too short not to follow your passion and it’s okay to also be sad about what you leave behind ♥️.
I’m glad you’re talking about this bittersweet decision because it’s part of your journey. My daughter raises chocolate silver foxes and your videos on breeding and birthing were really helpful to her with her first litter.
I have been looking for a chocolate silver fox for years what area is your daughter in does she ship?
While I am sad to see you move away from the foxes, I am glad to see you following your passion and working with the Cremes. I got my first Silver fox about the time I found your channel & it was amazing to have someone who broke down evaluating breeding etc with the same breed I was starting with. So thank you for that.
I will still be around to enjoy your videos & thanks for all you have done up until now. ❤
Thank you so much ❤️
Yes you should definitely tan his hide and keep it as a memento as your last Silver Fox! Part of me is a little sad to see them go but now that I have my own breeding program for Silver Fox I can put my own energy into them and cheer you and your cremes on! Thank you for being one of the main educators for me on my silver fox journey!
I appreciate the clear way in which you communicate.. and enjoy the content
Hi Tiffany! I never reached out before, but I felt I had to this time. I learned about your channel and the Livestock Conservancy last year when I was looking into starting my own rabbitry. I am starting with American Chinchillas because they were listed as Threatened. I was supposed to have my first litter by now, but something must have happened because the due date came and went without any babies. Now I just have a fat doe! Haha! Anyway, your build videos helped me plan my own hutch setup for my 5 starter rabbits. I'm still working out the kinks, but I appreciate your help along the way.
Hi there! First timer here! Nice to meet you. I’m subscribing based off this video alone because it takes a lot to do something you know is right when your heart is also pulling the other way.
What a blessing to have had a front row seat in the development and saving the silvers. That’s not something that ever goes away! And now you can repeat it for the creams!
My knowledge of rabbits is low but I am interested in breeding them for meat. I have a lot to learn and I’m glad I stumbled upon your channel!
I love your silverfox rabbits... Letting go of them made me so sad, the ending part of your video almost made me cry
I have watched your show videos but didn't get much into on where to find shows and how to know what to do. I am starting out with silver foxes. Do I have to join a club to breed? where do I find shows in my area and how to know how to get them ready? any info would be great. the videos I watched did not tell me where to go to start showing.
Just had my first kit of silver fox 2 days ago
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I bought two silver fox females a couple months back, I'd been looking in my area for some meat breeding rabbits and these two being the closest I looked at them and brought them home. So far my experience with them is not tame at all and require a lot of constraint if moving them, one was pregnant had her kits and as they grew old enough two were just crazy and one day leapt out of the cage, I could not capture them so after couple days they made it out of the shed, good I thought, I don't know what their father was but they were just crazy. The lady from whom I bought them seemed alright but said she was not going to raising rabbits for a while. I rebred the one mother and bred the other female with a new male who I think is just a mixed breed, both silver fox females seemed to allow the male do his job alright so they are good that way but otherwise I have mixed feeling about the silver fox.
When we started our Rabbit breeding journey we found your UA-cam channel and started with Silver Foxes because of your passion for the breed. Since then we have met Sherielu and Brittany and many others at shows and consider them good friends. We are still working on our Silver Foxes but lately have been drawn into New Zealands. We are very excited about our Next generation of Rabbits and as long as they excite us we will stay with them. We had a Black Senior Silver Fox doe place in the top 20 at Convention and were thrilled about that. I never dreamed that I would be so smitten by Rabbits, but I am. Thanks for your part in leading us on our Journey. We have made friends we would not have made without it and we are very appreciative for that.
They sure are beautiful, I breed New Zealand and California, i make blankets from there pelts. I love the breed. Thank you for sharing. Till next time God Bless. Oh we are so close to getting to 2k with our subscribers. Its so exciting.
That was a great video.
It makes sense that you move on. It is how we grow.
I just added my first crème does 🎉so excited! I love them so much! They are the cutest! 😊
I wish you could sell to us this silver fox rabbit. Looks great and good quality
Nice job with the creams
His pelt it’s great and I love his head. But unfortunately he’s underweight and pinched 😭
My wife and I raise rabbits (her: dwarf varieties for show/pets, me: TAMUKs for meat). I can't imagine trying to merge those two objectives in a single herd! Must be a lot of work!
It is a lot of work for sure
You will always be family ❤
Live you kiddo.
Where do you find this conservation list that you referenced. Im extremely curious ❤
You have great rabbit husbandry, and have been highly educational. wish you the best in your Cream journey. We work with Blancs de Hotot, hoping to have my first litter with them soon.
When i add rabbits in to our homestead this ia the breed i want. To enjoy, to eat and to also improve the breed. ❤
About to breed my first New Zealand white rabbit next month! Thank you so much for inspiring me to get into rabbits!😊
i'm glad your are following your passion!
I am very sad to see you sale out of the Sliver Fox. They were one of the reasons I got into watching your Channel. BUT I am glad you are going forward and getting more into what you love. I wont leave your channel just cause you got out of the sliver fox. I am getting into rabbits for meat. I got some Rex's that will hopefully be able to breed soon. Watching your vids I have learned ALOT and it will help me into moving forward as well :).
Looking to build a hutch and purchase a breeding trio soon. Wear did you order your 1/2”x1 flooring wire. The plastic coated stuff
My plan revolves around Champagne D'Argent, Creme D'Argent, and Silver Foxes. Their coats are absolutely stunning with their pale fur tips. I'm looking into the general Rex and Flemish Giant. They'd be devoted meat consumption does/crosses. I also plan on Harlequins, and they may become a priority considering the Livestock Conservancy. I have a lot of time on my hands while I'm new to rabbitry, and therefore don't show. It's what allows me to be so broad in my breed interests. However, my animal husbandry extends for years on my off-grid homestead, and while other livestock like my cattle and swine are hands-off, rabbitry is unique and more personal in a lot of ways. I enjoy it very much.
Tiffany I am very impressed with the aesthetics of your homestead. That is my goal as well when I move to Tenn. and start my own homestead. I met a breeder who suggested I raise Tamuks due to high summer temps. Your crème d’argents are beautiful though. I am learning as much as I can from you before then. You have been amazing. Would you consider a video on showing us your property, all your animal pens, barns , enclosures? There are so many ways to do things. I am also a fan of passing on tips and tricks other people have not figured out. Love all your painted rabbit hutches.
Thank you so much! 😊 eventually we will do a farm tour. After so many projects I am constantly picking up clutter and playing catch up. We’ll get there!
I missed that announcement about the silver foxes....I really wanted one from u...
What is the breed the tan colored are?
What is the best way you think to dispatch?
Hard to visualize tanning rabbit pelts. How are the pelts used? Are they difficult to tan at home?
Normally you tan them with the fur on, not like leather from cattle. I have seen winter hats and slippers made from them, but if you are willing to sew multiple pelts together, you could certainly do blankets etc.
Glad found your channel live in northern Ohio. Building rabbit cages nice set up to harvest 200 pounds year or more. Plain on having set up first then find rabbits to buy. Looking for breeder to get good stock . Any help would be appreciated
I'm looking at a meat breed suitable to central FL, heritage breed would be nice, but I just want a rabbit that will be comfortable with our warm & humid climate. there are Cotton tails around, so something should work out. any recommendations?
Cottontails are not the same as our domestic rabbit. Our rabbits originated from european rabbits.
I know several breeders that have Creme d’argents in Florida.
Do you have a video on how to pick your potential keep backs or your heavy culling process. I breed Rex and would like to do a better job at allowing better type only to be breeders. I mean do you just cull all except the best? What about parts rabbits?
I have one but I cross them with the larger breeds for meat
Silver Fox have the highest percentage of meat compared to body weight at 67% dress out weight. Larger breeds have larger bones so the percentage of meat is less. Might want to go pure SF.
A little bit colder... fortiees and fiftees...you mean summer?
Now, this would be amazing satinized if that creme guard hair would come up. Hmm..... Ideas. Not that I need another genetics project! LOL
Don’t give me any ideas, I don’t need any more projects 😂
@@TealStoneHomestead ha! I have to tell myself constantly to keep my thoughts to myself, was going to work on a broken reza magpie but... I better just temper myself.
Sorry if this is too basic a question, something we should already know if our climate isn't extreme (I suspect "Florida White" has value for heat/humidity and possibly disease tolerance rather than pure productivity in terms of reproductive fecundity and grow out rate), but how would you rate Creme de Argents and Silver Foxes against the meat standards like California and New Zealand White. I can't imagine myself getting into the business/hobby of exhibiting them (that might change with kids and 4H as a possible education resource, but as a bachelor, that's not on the horizon), and while I can appreciate a beautiful animal, I don't take rabbit fur (except for felting?) very seriously, since I had bought a pelt as a kid when my parents were buying sheepskins as chair cushions, and thus came to realize that even commercial rabbit skins shed fur like a (living) cat does, rather than lasting a long time (like the sheep pelts and presumably the traditional furbearers like actual fox or weasels). The pelt of a young animal (the most economical and tender stage to harvest for meat if breeding isn't a goal being when they just reach mature size or just before they start to fight over mating, whichever comes first) will almost certainly be more fragile and thus have limited avenues for non-compost use (pillow stuffing?). So I anticipate caring first about climate, then meat productivity, ie fecundity and rapid growth.
A tanned rabbit pelt would only shed if it was not properly done. It’s called slipping and usually means it has been over-processed.
If breed, look, or temperament is not a concern and you are just going for meat-producing abilities, I would recommend New Zealand.
Thanks for a great means and way to survive . As for anyone crybagging about life. They should review videos before watching. Frecken snowflakes
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I've had new Zealand white Californian,s chinchilla lots more live in uk starting with English after long absence from rabbits, as.a kid in England I had English and Dutch rabbits later my father emigrated to South Africa where after few years I had a Rabbitry mostly new Zealand white and Californian also chinchilla and new Zealand red / black lived there 18 years before coming back to England
Teal, I advise against rabbits freedom on the ground, with only a fence. In nature, they dig tunnels and you will lose control over them, with inability to separate them per sexes, with bucks killed by the does, with loses because they will break out through tunnels, and many litters lost to predators outside the fence.
If you still want to do it, the fence must be able to keep the babies inside, and, at around 60 centimeters in the ground, you have to have a floor of mesh, connected to the fence. I mean, you still have natural dirt where they like to dig, but unable to escape.
I'm telling you this from my experience. I guess you will transition completely to goats if your property can sustain the number of goats you need for that, and keep a nucleus or two of rabbits, ready to start again if there are problems with goats...
This is just a playpen for now. If I ever decide to do a colony we will definitely set it up more secure 😊
You seem to be torn between meat rabbits and "Show" rabbits. What is your recommendation for a "pure" meat rabbit producer who is not interested in showing the animals?
I’m not torn. This is a lifestyle and I like having a unique breed. For anyone that doesn’t care about the breed and just wants to produce meat, the New Zealand is the best.
What is Tamuk s
It's a rabbit breed that is not recognized by ARBA that was developed to be hardy and productive in hot climates
@@undead_queer yeah exactly, it's a mix of six or seven breeds that isn't it's own breed. And yes, they are *more* heat tolerant (though that doesn't mean they do well in 80+ weather...they just tolerate it a bit better). TAMUK stands for "Texas A&M University - Kingston", where the mix was developed.
Thanks now I know never heard of that in England
Stands for Texas A&M @Kingsville which is the college that developed the TAMUK composite. They have traits that make them desirable for meat production in hot climates including thinner hair, big ears, high growth rate and docile personalities. I’ve added them into my rabbitry here in Texas after that awful summer and so far I’m impressed with how well they are doing.
You should not house a buck with the does. You need to keep the buck separated with his wether friend at all times when not actively breeding. This is especially important for Nigerian Dwarf goats.
There are lots of ways to do things with goats. This worked very well for us during breeding season 🙂
@TealStoneHomestead no, this is absolutely not acceptable. You'll be very lucky if your does aren't bullied into aborting their fetuses.
Soooo you keep them to feel the best of they life before processing them... but when I see your eyes, I was like yes you can kill even a human and I'd still be charmed by You... Is this wrong? :)
Why you make it sad? Cremes are excellent rabbits and you did your part to spread the Fox love...
It is bittersweet. Sad but happy at the same time 🙂
Before I bought my first rabbit, I knew I wanted to focus on only rare breed rabbits on livestock conservancy. Our homestead focuses on American Blue, Silver Fox, and American Chinchillas. Silver fox are definitely a great homestead rabbit or pet.
Argente brun
I don’t know how you can cuddle that beautiful bunny and then say you are going to kill him. I can’t watch you anymore
As a person raising silver fox rabbits i found this long winded, overly personal, and rather boring explanation complete ego garbage. You could have said what neede to be aaid in 3 minutes or less. You switched breeds? Good for you. Gawd what a waste of time. Sorry but thats how i feel. And my feelings are important. Blah blah blah.
Okay 😂 my feelings are important too. This is my channel and it is personal to me. If you can’t handle that or don’t like my personality, then please leave ✌️
@@TealStoneHomestead you put it out there i am just honestly responding. I did learn one thing. That silver's are not as endangered as when we started. Thank you for that. But if you dont like people being honest keep your page private. Thanks for the knowledge.
@@sassafrasred6657 glad you learned something!
Who pissed in your cheerios this morning?
Dude whats your problem lmao. Sure you're entitled to your opinion but just because you can open your mouth doesn't mean you should.
I was not expecting to tear up but well, here we are lol.
Thank you for all you have done to contribute to Silver Fox. Even in a roundabout way, you’ll still be helping with general husbandry, care and of course- inspiration! 🖤🤎💙
Thank you friend 🧡
damn. ure racist.