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КОМЕНТАРІ • 230

  • @MCR4life90210
    @MCR4life90210 10 років тому +150

    Making his own metronome, I love it

  • @Fandirek
    @Fandirek 8 років тому +64

    1:33 - A doctor prescribing listening to lots of Frank Zappa is the best kind of doctor! :D

  • @Rothley131gamezz
    @Rothley131gamezz 7 років тому +253

    did this dude just make his own metronome?

    • @kevincasals2008
      @kevincasals2008 5 років тому +1

      😂

    • @ponceponce4431
      @ponceponce4431 4 роки тому +1

      I was amazed too

    • @diasspeed
      @diasspeed 4 роки тому

      Really? You got so impressed by someone looping 4 notes on a looper pedal?? Really???....omg audiences these days...

    • @JerryLeeHowell2
      @JerryLeeHowell2 4 роки тому +7

      @@diasspeed Hey dummy, link me to one of the millions of other videos where someone uses a looper to actually sound like a metronome. Too stupid to keep it to yourself I guess.

    • @diasspeed
      @diasspeed 4 роки тому +1

      @Philip Schlaepfer Actually he did it in 2 tries, he did not "nail it" in one. Why do you have to exaggerate about him, even for this little thing???? Pfff. Still however, it is not difficult at all, dont talk bs. Everybody can do it in first try some day or need 2-3 tries to do it in another day. He can do it ofcourse, I can do it, you can do it, anyone intermediate or better guitarist with a looper can do it.

  • @Djazzy419
    @Djazzy419 4 роки тому +21

    2:40
    Govan : "I can't do it"
    Also Govan : *does it*

  • @licklibrary
    @licklibrary  12 років тому +38

    Interestingly enough Guthrie did do English at Oxford university, but we feel his talents are much better spent on music!

    • @pauloamw
      @pauloamw 6 років тому +5

      Licklibrary - Online Guitar Lessons Indeed, but his college background explain his equally good command of the language, which explains why he can teach so well and others can't.

  • @sunnymoon5216
    @sunnymoon5216 10 років тому +46

    Guthrie is the best explanator in the whole world! And that damn english accent...

    • @Joj1n
      @Joj1n 5 років тому +3

      SunnyMoon best(elegant) accent in the world to my ears...

  • @nara808
    @nara808 9 років тому +19

    This guy is amazing to watch. I don't even play guitar, but watching Guthrie play or talk is inspiring, i just might start

    • @JasperLinford
      @JasperLinford 6 років тому +4

      Joe Smith so did you actually start learning the guitar

    • @herehere3139
      @herehere3139 2 роки тому

      Yeah, six years ago, did u ever start learning?

    • @nara808
      @nara808 2 роки тому +2

      @@herehere3139 No, lol. I play drums.

    • @herehere3139
      @herehere3139 2 роки тому

      @@nara808 Hahaha! Good on ya. I play drums as well as guitar. Drums can be equally fun and crazy in their own way.

    • @iggmeister4137
      @iggmeister4137 Рік тому +1

      @@nara808 wack

  • @Nragemachine
    @Nragemachine 12 років тому +2

    I like how excited he got when this question was asked, you can tell how much he loves music and playing the guitar and sharing that joy with others.

  • @invin7215
    @invin7215 9 років тому +22

    Every time I hear five note groupings I hear "hippopotamus" now. Thanks Guthrie.

  • @robertdevadason1885
    @robertdevadason1885 6 років тому +50

    guthrie does not train with a metronome...the metronome trains with guthrie

    • @Pimp-Master
      @Pimp-Master 5 років тому +3

      He gets Chuck Norris's old metronomes.

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 років тому +6

    Yessir. Shawn Lane was a gift to the world of the guitar, and he remains to this day one of my favourite musicians- let alone just guitarists. He was a mind blowing guitarist, a proficient bassist, an outstanding pianist and a fairly good drummer. Absolutely incredible.

  • @AndyDavid1970
    @AndyDavid1970 7 років тому

    GG is such a great teacher - his explanations are clear and he makes it sound so approachable. Of course, each GG lesson needs quite a lot of homework and practice, but I always want to get right into it after one of his lessons. I also love how he's so damned humble! This isn't the first lesson where he's said "I can't do that", and I think that he makes it ok to not be perfect and to be yourself. Superb teacher.

  • @redskullz124
    @redskullz124 11 років тому

    Yes! A video of Friedman talking about odd groupings changed my entire outlook on putting runs in leads.

  • @sayakpaul3152
    @sayakpaul3152 11 років тому +1

    Guthrie Govan is so unpredictable in his approach I just tend to have him all the day in my ear ... Specially his sweeps ... O bang on man ... Guthrie you are really a legend in your style .. Greetings all the way from India brother ..

  • @natazer
    @natazer 12 років тому +5

    Shawn Lane was the master of odd groupings. It's impossible to study him without a time-displacement modulator. That'll be invented when time travel is possible so you can go back and slow down his patterns.

  • @InstrumentalAvenue
    @InstrumentalAvenue 13 років тому +2

    What a great teacher.

  • @ExternalTooth
    @ExternalTooth 12 років тому +1

    Honestly, I've never found a guitarist, or musician for that matter, that I thought truly came up to par with Lane. As you said, he was better than most people at several different instruments, and (in my mind) the single greatest guitarist who ever lived. I'm 18 and I first heard him a year ago, and I've been mesmerized ever since. I really regret that I never got to meet him! But enough of the drooling and praising.. xD R.I.P SHAWN. On a side note, Govan is a favorite of mine, as well. Lol

  • @encguitarist
    @encguitarist 13 років тому +2

    Guthrie is everything a guitar player would want. A guitar god and a metronome :)

  • @wilky1189
    @wilky1189 11 років тому +1

    i learned the takadimi system in college, and i've heard of other indian rhythmic singing, but no one ever taught me "hip-po-pot-a-mus".....that's brilliant.

  • @Alwongayem
    @Alwongayem 11 років тому

    Guthrie ... you are so talented and ... so nice to teach how to play the way you do. Thanks.

  • @ExternalTooth
    @ExternalTooth 12 років тому

    You're so right. Some of his solos sounded like randomly thrown together notes at first glance, but when you really pick them apart, you realize just how technically and musically talented he was. It's incredible.

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 13 років тому +1

    @KingTabor actually I can play fast (I mean, in a soloing frame) the 5-note g's, but the 7-note still are a problem to me. Not at lower speeds, where they can easily fall into some progressive grooves, like Rush or DT had taught us all. Thanks for the GINA hint, it helped!

  • @nuspacestate
    @nuspacestate 12 років тому +4

    Shawn Lane used to use groups of 5 and other odd groupings in his playing on a regular basis.

  • @elvis_chen
    @elvis_chen 6 років тому +1

    The metronome loop is epic.

  • @ayushmanbhalla8737
    @ayushmanbhalla8737 6 років тому

    Omg he made is own metronome such a sick man..... but I really love his dedication towards music !

  • @devax1986
    @devax1986 12 років тому +1

    Ah, a reference to Zappa. One of my all time favorites.

  • @mariokris22
    @mariokris22 13 років тому +7

    damn even a metronome sound he could make

  • @TruthSurge
    @TruthSurge 5 років тому +3

    I notice he didn't play ANY example of 5 or 7 remotely close to "fast". Eric Johnson does great 5s and Shawn Lane did, too. Shawn..... you have to see him play to believe he isn't doing all that with two-hand tapping.

    • @zerronyx1362
      @zerronyx1362 4 роки тому +2

      I mean, he says it in the video, if you play it fast the notes just squeezes its way together but playing slow makes it easier to grasp and understand the concept of 5 notes per beat
      if you doubt guthrie govan's skills then just search him shredding, he is ridiculously fast AND clean

  • @xxczerxx
    @xxczerxx 11 років тому

    The Friedmanmeister loves this idea too! Him and Govan are my favourites

  • @dennoow
    @dennoow 11 років тому

    Yeah I remember being completely blown away when hearing that song on "Up", Even more so when I saw it live! The ending of that song is absolutely genius as well. Peter Gabriel is a brilliant, brilliant composer! That vocal solo is exactly as a guitar should sound :)

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 років тому +6

    Shawn Lane was definitely one of the best musicians-both technically and creatively to ever live, without a doubt in my mind. I'm only 15, but I've been a fan for a few years at this point, and he just blew my mind and it never quite recovered. Speaking from a non-Lane perspective though, Guthrie is one of the best guitarists alive and definitely one of the best at what he does - rock based fusion work. If I could have half the skill of Guthrie, I'd be better than 90% of the worlds guitarists.

  • @L33tP1ckL
    @L33tP1ckL 13 років тому

    Guthrie is not only a great player, but as this lesson plainly shows, a pretty decent teacher as well. His intent, to have you break the often sour mold of 3 and 4 note groupings and ultimately, the horribly overused I IV V progression, will lend itself to expanding your improvisational abilities in a very clear, 'second nature' kind of a way.

  • @detroidxl
    @detroidxl 13 років тому

    OMG HE MADE A METRONOME THATS SO BRILLIANT YET SIMPLE!

  • @JoeGuitarGuy
    @JoeGuitarGuy 11 років тому

    God Govan is a fucking genius, I'm so grateful he decided to apply his seemingly natural ability to teach to playing guitar.

  • @nicklambert1981
    @nicklambert1981 11 років тому

    Hippopotamus! I never knew this word would make my playing better. Genius.

  • @_ch1pset
    @_ch1pset 11 років тому

    I'm having fun with this in rhythm style licks/riffs. :)
    I like using the last method he talks about, keeping a 16th pulse, it's challenging and makes for intricate licks because of how it repeats in spots you don't expect. It sounds really nice, as I said, rhythmically.

  • @Nomadic_1
    @Nomadic_1 12 років тому +7

    i want this guy to be my teacher

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 12 років тому +1

    a good example of the indian stuff Guthrie is talking about is Peter Gabriel's Signal To Noise, before the string section begins

  • @_ch1pset
    @_ch1pset 12 років тому

    i like the last approach he mentions, except i haven't yet tried 5 or 7 note groupings, but i've successfully been able to combine triplets and quadruplets using a sixteenth note pulse(play 4 sets of triplets and then one quadruplet and they are all sixteenth notes). Even though its a cliche, it still tricks you're sense of "on beat". I actually like this way of constructing licks and riffs, its tricky and challenging, if there's one thing I love, its a good challenge. plus it sounds cool.

  • @jamescairns515
    @jamescairns515 12 років тому +1

    Can this guy just become an english teacher? Fantastic use of the language. Almost as pleasurable as his playing.

  • @panamanian911
    @panamanian911 13 років тому

    @pozereater they don't always apply with time signatures. When he played that Zappa riff, he squeezed 5 notes in a 16th note subdivision.

  • @happyapple248
    @happyapple248 13 років тому +15

    "Primitive metronome"

  • @dilbophagginz
    @dilbophagginz 11 років тому

    3:40 people should pay attention to this, it's a very good concept to understand.

  • @davejackson88
    @davejackson88 6 років тому +1

    Makes the metronome click sound... this man is messiah

  • @JohnnySegment86
    @JohnnySegment86 13 років тому

    To get a feel for five npb I just tap on the beat and go down chromatically using pull offs with my fretting hand...... works pretty well if you keep a steady tap and have four fingers

  • @GhostGuitars
    @GhostGuitars 11 років тому +2

    5s - "university 7s - "go to university" use these on the beat, it will help

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 13 років тому

    Nice! But I missed some insight into the 7-note groupings.

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 11 років тому

    I didn't know that track was featured on Up, I love that movie, and of course I love that song, Martin Scorsese featured an instrumental version of Signal To Noise in the first battle scene of Gangs of New York, it gives me the chills every time I listen to it and/or watch the movie

  • @pgomespwr95
    @pgomespwr95 11 років тому +3

    Awesome guitarists go the same way, he used the same thing as Marty Friedman to start with the 5's

  • @NickoTheGuitarist
    @NickoTheGuitarist 13 років тому +1

    He's so nice and polite haha

  • @MisterGabal
    @MisterGabal 12 років тому +4

    This indian stuff I've also heard about in a Shawn Lane video.

  • @thegreatgarry
    @thegreatgarry 13 років тому +9

    Guthrie makes metronome??!?!
    How on earth he does that ?!?

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 років тому

    @Nuspacestate Shawn Lane was a monster of the guitar. Absolutely fantastic player in almost every conceivable way. Guthrie himself is a rather large fan. I remember watches some REH videos Lane did, and he was talking about interspersing groups of 5 with 9's, 12's and even 13's. It's absolutely insane.

  • @express49
    @express49 13 років тому +1

    Is the metronome the only thing you learnt here ?

  • @sIash90
    @sIash90 13 років тому

    that's a good lesson. I think I need to get familiar with odd groupings of notes because I'm not too fast of an alternate picker yet. Therefore I'm not confortable soloing at tempos between 120bpm and 150 bpm let's say. Because up to 120 I can use groups of 6 for fast runs and around 150 16th notes fit pretty good for fast passages in solos. But in between 16th notes sound too slow and groups of 6 are way too fast for me. groups of 5 might be the solution

  • @TheBlakem
    @TheBlakem 13 років тому

    HE IS THE BEST!

  • @ymelfilm
    @ymelfilm 4 роки тому

    Omg, he just remembers Peaches in Regalia! I guess he can play any Zappa just from his pocket:))

  • @moscar_
    @moscar_ 7 років тому +8

    1:50 eye of the tiger anyone ?

  • @ryancola69
    @ryancola69 12 років тому

    That was my question!

  • @timothycypriot8182
    @timothycypriot8182 11 років тому

    as a 15 years old guitar student i only practiced classical guitar and i will finnish grd8 and in this summer i want to practise new things i want to play lead guitar what should i do any advices? sorry for my bad english

  • @neo4reals
    @neo4reals 13 років тому

    @TheRealAchilleZ The subject isn't odd meter, its odd groupings- quintuplets/septuplets

  • @dennoow
    @dennoow 11 років тому

    I didn't know "Up" was a movie as well ;) I was referring to Peter Gabriel's Album entitled "Up". It's absolutely brilliant from start to finish. Everytime you listen you will hear something new, true classic! Gangs of NY is a really really good film yeah!

  • @JayFraser0987
    @JayFraser0987 12 років тому +2

    @RemusN7 Guthrie is an enormous Shawn Lane fan, so that might even be where he picked up the knowledge of it.

  • @KingTabor
    @KingTabor 13 років тому

    @thrakkattack This method you said can work. Hard is telling when and if it is actually working, I mean knowing if one is playing actually 7 notes-a-time instead of 7.2, 7.78 or any other number, given the free nature of the method "OK, I have this nice Rhoads lick down, now I´m gonna speed it up by ... hmm.. 20%? No, must be 30%!...or..."

  • @Ieatairparticles
    @Ieatairparticles 12 років тому

    yes sir I do believe he did using a loop pedal.

  • @xxczerxx
    @xxczerxx 11 років тому

    Yeah of course!

  • @Testacabeza
    @Testacabeza 12 років тому

    It's not a metronome. He just created life out of void and is monitoring its heart.

  • @jamoke666
    @jamoke666 13 років тому +1

    G.G. Rules!

  • @tabotabojayar
    @tabotabojayar 13 років тому +1

    is that aloop pedal he used to record and play continously that metronome?

    • @arazmate
      @arazmate 2 роки тому

      I know this is 11 years late, but yes. You probably already know that by now though… lol

  • @Superock1988
    @Superock1988 12 років тому

    Yeah, I have one.
    In 2:06 he's playing the solo and tapping the tempo simultaneously. No loop pedal here...

  • @lowalkoroc
    @lowalkoroc 4 роки тому

    lol the string noise on the 4 count of the metronome driving me nuts. BEEP BOOP BOOP BOOP(EHHH), BEEP BOOP BOOP BOOP(EHHH)

  • @johnnylifeson
    @johnnylifeson 12 років тому

    Guthrie is the Master !!!!!

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 11 років тому

    Yeah it's awsome !!

  • @doeboyfresh863
    @doeboyfresh863 13 років тому +1

    eye of the tiger at 1:55!!!! lol i know dumb lol

  • @southrules
    @southrules 12 років тому

    That's actually true of many things with the guitar once you've practiced something a lot

  • @maxellison55
    @maxellison55 13 років тому

    Genius!

  • @shravanrulez
    @shravanrulez 12 років тому +2

    "Perversely, It gets harder when you slow it down!" LOL! I'm sure he meant something else by that!! :D

  • @ashishvivian2224
    @ashishvivian2224 4 роки тому

    It’s funny that Guthrie struggled with super imposing there.
    Never thought anything was impossible for Guthrie 😕

  • @malcolmX213
    @malcolmX213 12 років тому

    Just think of what you are playing and the 4 beat metronome as two different rhythms (polyrhythms).

  • @Danumurti18
    @Danumurti18 2 роки тому

    Nah, is that the first example is polyrhytm, and the second is polymeter?
    When you hit 5 notes with equal time in 1 click, you play polyrhytm (no matter what the note groupings are, it's still polyrhytm. You can play 4 note grouping cycle, but if you hit them in the speed of 5 notes per click, it will sound even weirder)
    When you play 4 notes in 1 click but the cycle of notes are in 5, you play polymeter.
    And, Konnakol is actually polymeter example, since their notes speed are usually constant or 2x or 4x faster (32, 16, 8, 4 notes per beat).
    Triplets is actually polyrhytm, the only polyrhytm in western. Western don't have notation for 5, 7, 9, notes per beat. And so does the rest of the world (maybe, because I haven't found yet).
    I just came from Andre Hwang video about polyrhtm vs polymeter, maybe someone can explain more of this. CMIIW.

  • @BHAKTIBROPHY
    @BHAKTIBROPHY 11 років тому

    Zappa rocks!

  • @timothycypriot8182
    @timothycypriot8182 11 років тому

    by the way i can practise 8 hours a day tell me what should i learn plz any advise?

  • @luizandre12345
    @luizandre12345 5 років тому

    This metronome is better than anything i can play on guitar

  • @jjmah7
    @jjmah7 Рік тому

    Man had literally no reason to metronome any of those licks but he’s a god so all g

  • @IANSPA
    @IANSPA 10 років тому

    It keeps the strings from ringing out when he does tapping licks.

  • @leifdeleeuw
    @leifdeleeuw 13 років тому

    1:38 Peaches and Regalia!!! :)

  • @Mapon123
    @Mapon123 12 років тому

    @magician10001 I suppose so, in this order: "Eye of the tiger is sixteenth notes." but not all sixteenth notes are eye of the tiger. :D

  • @nevigo5519
    @nevigo5519 13 років тому

    He seem to be a good guy.Very nice and calm,and he understand to say it so people dont sit like a bit Q.:)

  • @DANKGUITAR26
    @DANKGUITAR26 12 років тому

    1:33 YES!

  • @necroyoli08
    @necroyoli08 11 років тому

    oh, sorry, duh! for me, of course you are talking about the album, the thing is that so many people talks about the film and very little people knows the album that I didn't even relate the song and the record. However, both the record and the film are awsome

  • @tokojojiji
    @tokojojiji 13 років тому

    wow i actually had to rewind it about 30 times before i could understand what he said at the vid.

  • @Thompaam
    @Thompaam 11 років тому

    I'd say learn some modal scales which you hopefully know as a classical guitarist, jam to some backing tracks (QuistTV on UA-cam has some great ones) and listen to a lot of lead playing to get an idea of what you like and what you don't like.

  • @pippipmagrip
    @pippipmagrip 12 років тому +1

    Look Ian Anderson did that look in 1969, get your own.

  • @UltimaRedFireEskimo
    @UltimaRedFireEskimo 12 років тому

    It's obviously easy, but to be able to think of making your own metronome? I'm impressed by his creativity and resourcefulness; it's easy to make that noise technically lol

  • @Kingding6
    @Kingding6 13 років тому

    Check the Lane instructional vids for this kind of stuff

  • @stbreal
    @stbreal 12 років тому

    frank zappa hell yeah!!!!

  • @TheErock20
    @TheErock20 12 років тому

    guthrie and andy james are the best

  • @danieloliveiraog
    @danieloliveiraog 12 років тому

    @nemogre Sure, because the only way he can show off is to make a simple metronome...

  • @Waltzhybrid92
    @Waltzhybrid92 11 років тому

    Play anything you like!

  • @GuitarFromNZ
    @GuitarFromNZ 11 років тому

    r u dimebag darrel's seecond brother or somin?