Michael Penix Jr: SPECIAL Talent With Some Baggage
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- Опубліковано 31 січ 2024
- Today we are looking at Washington QB Michael Penix Jr. Penix was an elite QB in his 2 years with the Huskies, leading them to a National title game and finishing 2nd in this years Heisman race. Today we will look at the strengths and weaknesses of Penix's film!
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This guy picked up on what Brock purdy could do before pretty much anyone else. I’ll believe whatever he says
I appreciate that 🫡🔥
Brock Purdy was considered anywhere from a 1st round to 3rd round pick until his last season at Iowa State.
@@TankFantasySportsnow look at austin reed from wku that boy is a natural talent
3rd round draft pick
this guy is a GOD he definitely predicted PURDY!
His Arm is incredible.
Great vid! I love how you point out that Penix shows decent athleticism and speed when he does run, he just doesn’t do it. Breaks the narrative that he provides no mobility, he likely doesn’t run much cuz of his injury history. There is ENOUGH mobility in my opinion.
It so shocking he didn’t run more. Obviously he’s not going to be using his legs a ton in the NFL, but he can do more with them if given the opportunity.
@@TankFantasySports 2 ACL tears will do that.
I think its a good nod to his development as a QB. At the next level hes going to be asked to stand in the pocket and make throws, but not be a dynamic rusher. I like that hes matured out of using his legs and really worked on ability to get the ball out. The legs are there, but he uses them as a last resort, vs getting frazzled as so many young and mobile QBs do and trying to run out of the pocket.
I am a pats fan, my personal choice is that we draft MHJ at 3 then pair him with penix early in the 2nd rd, I believe in penix
Penix will never make it to the 2nd round
That interception against Michigan was clearly disrupted as it was leaving Penix’s hand. It wasn’t an overthrow; it was a bloody great play by the D Lineman.
Facts
A good QB coach could really mold him into a very good quarterback in the NFL. He already has the ability, it's about consistently getting it out of him that's the problem. If a team with historically good coaching and QB coaching can get him on the team, I really do think he'll have a solid career in the NFL. However, he goes to a team like the Panthers or Redskins and he's out of the league in 5 years or less. Barring the litany of injuries he had at IU and Washington, his college career is very respectable.
I think this is a perfect description of how he works out/fails in the NFL. Really smart call 🔥
What injuries did he have a Washington?
Michael Penix is probably the most interesting QB prospet in this draft. This man could hit a needle 40 yards out one game, and then look like a completely different person the next game. I really think if given the proper development cycle and coaching he could potentially be a star in the league.
I thought he was very good this year...they did get to the big game.....Id be more worried about Maye or McCarthy
this man may be best rookie qb in nfl next year in theory if he perfoms this good
I have high hopes!
Im putting money on it
At 7:30 that td to Odunze against Utah was even more impressive cuz of how windy it was that game, and especially in that endzone in the closed end of the stadium the wind swirls bad. He threw 2 deep tds to Odunze threw that wind in that game. His velocity on some of his throws is insane
His arm strength is insane
Penix comp just struck me 🥁 roll …………… Phillip Rivers with that throwing motion
I was thinking the same thing!
More athletic Phillip Rivers/Big Ben
Exactly
subscribed literally can't wait for more of your breakdowns this great work. about to watch the bo nix video now
I’m glad you’re sticking around! Jayden Daniels will be coming soon ✅
If healthy (and that’s a big IF), he’ll be the best QB of the 2024 draft class
This kid can definitely throw a nice football. Get that accuracy fixed this kids gonna be dangerous in the NFL.
His back shoulder fade to Odunze in the first Oregon game was cold blooded. Best qb prospect I’ve ever seen. The spin rate on his spiral is higher than any NFL QB.
Penix goes hard and is very explosive
He’s got that big play ability with his arm💪🏻
replace the x with an s and this sentence’s meaning instantly changes
These player breakdowns are great your videos or actually very good quality very suprised you dont have a bigger following, i think maybe it’s because as far as i can see you only have just started the college player prospect breakdowns. Great video!
I appreciate it! I will do NFL player breakdowns as well. Recently I’ve done videos on Bijan Robinson and Tyjae Spears. BUT I’ve also done videos on D’Andre Swift, Dameon Pierce, Travis Etienne, Trevor Lawrence after his rookie season, Rhomandre Stevenson. So if you wanted to check any of those out, there on the channel! ✅
@@TankFantasySports Thats great! I’ll definitely take a look at those breakdowns your videos are great keep it up!
Did this guy sleep on the championship game? This QB can't handle any pressure.
If you want to see Penix as an athlete, look at his tape at Indiana. Deboer chose not to let him play as much as an athlete as Washington but it's there. Once thing that isn't included in the game film that people watch on Penix is the weather conditions he played through. Go look at his games against Utah and Oregon State in 2023 as well as Oregon State 2022 and see what he does when there's excessive wind and excessive rain. Dude is special and has the opportunity to keep learning and growing once he reaches the league but as for now he has the things necessary to be good (timing, accuracy, ability to read a defense) and with more practice at the next level he can clean up some of the areas he's a little weaker and transition into the elite QB's the league has to offer. GO DAWGS!
Subbed. Rang the bell. You get a lot of comments like this, but you should keep making breakdowns like this. Your channel shines best at evaluating players like these, collegiate or NFL. I'm having fun while listening, so you're pretty good at this UA-cam thing!
I feel like Penix's mechanics could use some work. The pressure that he faced vs Michigan was grueling, especially for a guy who has battled injury...
I hope I'm wrong, but if he has a bad O line, I'm worried bad looks or even an injury can easily arise that ruins any starting chance that teams will give him. I'd put him over Bo Nix for sure. But he could be a star! Who knows.
Penix is an Artist passing the ball. Other than his injury history, my biggest concern is how he will handle pressure. Penix only missed 8% of his throws over 20 yards which was the most in college football by a mile!
Underrated
Fantastic video, subbed and bell dinged. 😂
I appreciate it, glad to have ya 🔥
You are dropping some serious "Vikings gonna pick him" hints here... Name dropping Cousins, Jefferson...
Love Penix. Give him some pro receivers, and they catch most of those throws.
Thanks for the video. Penix is a top 5 prospect and could be best rookie QB next year IMO. Jayden Daniels seems to get more hype with heisman and #3 qb draft ranking. Why? You didn't mention JD and you haven't posted a vid. I'm not a JD fan but what's your thought?
I will be posting a video saying my thoughts on JD. But he’s easily the best athlete in the draft at the quarterback position. Averaging 8.4 yards per carry is not joke, the guys an athlete. Also his ability to accurately throw down field is pretty special, it pops all over his film. I still need to deep dive to tell you the rest, but stick around it’s coming !
@TankFantasySports thoughts on JJ Mccarthy, who his college coach says should be number 1 pick? As a Falcons fan, I'm a little intreaguded by this guy....
Great review. It was nice to see what film there was of him running and throwing on the run because it looks good, even though there wasn't much of it. His combine numbers show he can do it as well. He will be a first rounder.
I really hope the Falcons take Penix. Their O-Line was 4th ranked in 2023, more than enough to keep him upright, and the offensive weapons at their disposal will give him an excellent chance at success.
I really want the broncos to take a chance on this guy
Same imagine Sutton with this guy man
Perfect for Miami. Imagine that deep ball paired with Hill and Waddle
And yes to me he’s the most pros ready hopefully Broncos get him
I would love for Denver to get him. With Sean Payton as HC I think that could be a great move
2 ACL injuries is scary but I saw this kid destroy everyone besides the champs Michigan, which was an NFL team and has 17 players projected to be drafted, all while being coached by an NFL head coach.
This might sound crazy but he kinda reminds me of Steve Mc Nair. Big guy, tough, good arm, can run but doesnt rely on his legs and a winner. (Yes i know he lost to Michigan and McNair lost in the Super Bowl but they show they can get you there)
That was the first name that came to mind when I saw the footage.
I agree this guy is not a project. Everyone else after the top 2 QB's is a project or you projecting what they can do . Get Penix early in the first round and invest in a great OL and he is better than any project out there. Penix will get bet back and correct things when he works with QB coaches and puts in the work.
I love the call. He’s ready to play now, just needs an O-Line to support him
Definitely make more shorts to bro will definitely help boost the following & views
The thing about Penix I'm looking forward to the most, is all the potential fantasy team names: "My Penix breaks the plane", "My Penix scores at will", "Touchdown by my Penix", "Penix Envy", "Penix Picks", "Penix does Phoenix", "Penix goes balls deep", "Penix up the middle", etc....
The only critique I have on Penix is the length of time he's played already he's injury prone. Has had 2 ACL injuries already so he's kind of fragile. Dude has an accurate cannon but if I was a GM those ACL injuries are hard to fully repair
The team for him is one that is diverse he needs a lot of time. College is a start but personally I believe his coach’s don’t understand how to prep to set him up in situations where he is pressured. His down sides where ignored and you can see that in his games. And we should also check his leadership. Sure he had his team with him around him but the nfl is a different beast.
More scouting videos please and thank you
Perfect fit for the vikings offense.
I disagree.... Vikings offense is all about play action, and rollouts - I didn't see a lot of that here. I think Bo Nix would be a better option for KOC.
No, the offense is about throwing the ball down the field with accuracy. Bo nix is about as dink and dunk as you can get.
@@user-mj8wz7gb3hBo nix is more accurate
@@Evolution10XWhat have you been watching in Minnesota? lol Our offense hasnt been heavy play action since like Kirks 2nd year here and especially not under KOC. Dont get me wrong we occasionally throw in a play action play or 2 but most of the time it was Kirk standing tall in the pocket and getting the ball off under pressure.
@@user-mj8wz7gb3hExactly. This is why I am not a Bo Nix or JJ McCarthy fan for the Vikings. Those 2 guys take the safe option every single time when with the Vikings youre constantly looking for crossers and midfield passes. Guys like Penix, Daniels, Williams and Maye are all better at that.
I want us to move up for Daniels or Maye if possible but if not we should stick and pick and draft Penix at 23 while using 11 on a good defensive prospect.
This guy is smarter than every other NFL scout for catching Brock. Easy sub
great vid! Can you do McCarthy?
I hear some Minnesota love in this...
Penix Jr to the Dolphins
I think penix is gonna turn out to be the best qb. He reminds me of deshuan watson kind of. I think jayden daniels will turn out to be good too if he gets more muscle. Caleb williams and drake maye might be busts fr.
I’m coming out with my Jayden Daniels report today. Let’s just say I think he is amazing🔥 check it out later 😉
@@TankFantasySports hes gonna be good i think honestly. Still not much hype for him just winning heisman. But bet I'll def be watching 👀
If I had the first pick and needed a quarterback I’m taking Penix!
That’s a bold call, but I think Penix is a very safe play!
You would be fired immediately after making that pick.
Great eye on that play near 3:15... if anywhere else thats picked.
I agree that Penix has the talent to be a 1st rounder but the best case scenario for him is probably going in the very late 1st/ 2nd and not going to a team that needs a savior. I know this strategy is generic and is a commodity that most teams dont have but he seems like he could really benefit from sitting behind a vet like Minshew or Browning for at least a portion of the year while getting groomed for the starting job. The thing im worried about is not facing pressure much in college but with preseason reps and time to get adjusted he should be okay as long as he isnt thrown into the fire.
I love this call. Him not facing pressure is a bit of a concern. But you can’t knock the guy for something he can’t control. I’m excited to see what team drafts him!
Perfect landing spot would be the Patriots, hopefully they Draft MHJ and sign Minschew in FA then they could draft Penix with the 34th. He could sit behind Minschew next year while developing a special relationship with MHJ during practices.
@@DrigoArtsFX I wouldn't say Patriots is the perfect spot but your idea is the best case scenario if the pats draft him. Patriots could David Carr or Bryce Young a QB if they threw him in the fire in 2024 and having an extra year to build the oline and let MHJ progress would set Penix up for a good 2025.
@@TankFantasySports Put him on the Hawks and let him sit behind Geno for a bit.
I think Penix besides Caleb is the most drag and drop QB In the draft.
Can you confirm if some of these bad throws happened in the games where he was recovering from rib injuries?
Good video, but I wish we could've seen more of how he reads a defense.
Penix will be a great NFL QB with a great receiver and a decent QB coach
I would like to see the Broncos draft this guy
His arm is elite. I saw him play live against my team and his throws are always tight spirals with some zip on them.
The scary part will be that when the pocket broke down his completions dropped to 20%. That is scary low compared to other top qb's. Perhaps a good coach can fix that...
Penix is the number 3 QB in this Draft behind Caleb and Drake Maye and maybe the best pure passer in this Draft
I agree with the pure passer part. I’m really really impressed with Jayden Daniels. I just posted a scouting profile on him
No Maye is not better. CW isn’t a better QB either he’s a better improviser and that’s an important notion. Penix is the best QB in the draft and he’ll prove it as Daniels will also end up being great. CW will have to learn the position more is more about pre snap and less about scrambling. That Johnny Manziel shit gets nerfed in the NFL. Maye might be a total bust. So wildly inconsistent.
I'm hoping the Patriots can get Penix at 34 🤞If they get MHJ at 3 and Penix at 34 would be amazing.
This is a really good video but go back and check the 1st Oregon game. They blitzed him a ton. He had to throw the ball away quite a bit
Give me Mike Penix😤
I LOVE THIS VIDEO, I LOVE PENIX, I HAD WASHINGTON 28-1 and Heisman 18-1 didnt win either but my faith in him was there. He is a baller and his IQ is off the charts. He throws like Moon and has the IQ of Brady. Runs like Tannehill, but hes well rounded, well developed, his leadership and ability to not fold under pressure. I think he was so slept on and still is, being a possible 2nd rounder is disgusting.
Old college players were never red flags, it has only became common to try to leave for the NFL as fast as humanly possible in the past 13 years or so.
If I'm a General Manager, I don't even look at him until the second round. The guy has suffered significant injuries including two ACL surgeries on the same knee, dislocations in both shoulders. HIs throwing delivery is funky and low. He played behind a great offensive line and had great talent at the receiver position. He will have to transform much of his game to make an impact in the NFL. He will be 24 in May - that could be a positive or negative. In the biggest game of the year he wasn't very good. Seems like a great Christian guy with heart. One more ACL blow out on the right knee and football will be the last thing to worry about, he will have trouble walking by age 50.
Did you see the wr's that Joe Burrow had in college? Did you see Phillip Rivers play? Who cares how old he is. This is how things are in today's era. Isn't Jayden Daniels around the same age? Here is the deal. The tape does not lie. This guy has elite arm talent and time and time again is putting the ball in tiny ass windows. Michigan overwhelmed Wash, especially their o-line. He really didn't have much of a chance in that game. But what about the game before Michigan? I'm drafting this guy early.
Lmao his throwing motion is is fast….
Stephon Diggs had two acl tears in college. Frank Gore acl tears in college. Shut up.
@unclejesse4271 He choked In the championship game, as Washington got destroyed.
@@wrsawy how about he was playing on a team that was not as good. his o-line was overwhelmed.
this dude caught Brock, was somewhat right about O’connel, and who knows what he could be right about. Idk, but this man seems like he should be an nfl scout
Yeah the dude has an overthrow problem. That’s the one thing I noticed time and time again. Wide open posts and corners where I am like “dude u just can’t miss that” but at the same time he has loads of potiential. As a Seattle native, we want him to stay home
can you do jordan travis ?
I’m hoping I can get to him! I am working on Jayden Daniels and Drake Maye now. But I do plan on getting to Jordan Travis 🔥
I think he would be perfect on the Rams to back up another awesome thrower of the ball Maty ice ice Stafford
Can Penix take a snap under center?
He’s a Mcnabb 2.0 he will be great 👍
Interesting vid. As a Husky fan, season ticketholder, etc. I expected to hear and see the examples of Penix problems that really typified those games in which he struggled. And that was throwing off his back foot under pressure, and sailing his throws. The number of times he missed his receivers high, and sometimes very high, was pretty significant when he was pressured, or clearly felt pressured. Did it a lot more than he missed them low over the season. But that release is lightning quick, and the gun is truly powerful. A very tempting pick, I'd say, from mid-first to mid-second....
Reminds me of Tua as far as cannon and spiral accuracy
What about his delivery, isn’t it a bit low, kind of side armed?
He throws with his shoulder, not his arm. I've never seen an above average NFL QB do that....
It's funny how every QB in this draft is said to have all this baggage but the one who is clearly the least Drake Maye make it make sense
What are you trying to say by this? Maye doesn’t have baggage
@@k1ng_chamberlain everybody has baggage Nix was better against better competition Maye was average against average competition he's clearly the sixth QB in the draft Rattler should go before him
@@k1ng_chamberlain Well then his name should be Jesus Christ since he's so perfect
Best pure passer in the draft, plug him into a high octane offense and watch the records get broken. I cant believe NFL GMs want to sell JJ Mcarthy over this guy. Only thing im worried about is the injury factor.
Josh Allan had the same accuracy problems coming out of college.
he's the hardest qb prospect to evaluate. he played with 3 NFL draft picks at WR and had a stud OL and they play in the pieces of the pac12. yes he's a great deep ball thrower but honestly, there are a lot of guys with zip in their arms that'll burn you if they get to sit there and load up. add the obvious medical concerns and he's a no go for me.
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Michael Penix and Brian Daboll
He’s teddy bridgewater with a cannon IMO
The only game i had watched him play in was against Michigan and i was highly disappointed. Missed wide open throws and panicked under pressure
Well as you can see you cant judge a talent like this off of ONE game the kid has potential to do great things under the right system...I watched the game against Mich as well and the refs didnt help at all either!!
Would be nice on the Steelers with a trade back...
That USC linebacker who tipped the ball is 6’7
dude can sling it and with touch or zip.
Welcome to the Falcons….I guess. I’m just trying to cope watching highlights lol
accuracy being inconsistent in college is concerning. that inconstancy will become a lot more consistent in the NFL.
He has not reached his ceiling man. He just 23 years old and if he did not have those few issue he would be talked about in the top 2 even with his past injuries.
All the prospects in this draft have this except maybe Caleb. Penix is the best thrower in this draft period.
You are funny, most of the plays were first downs that you tried to show negative aspects. The clip still looks good.
Penix >>>>>>> Nix
I agree!
Their's no comparison he's going number 3 to the New England patriots. He's more pro ready than any other quarterback
I got to be honest you are splitting hairs here he has way more upside. He is comfortable in the pocket he can read defenses well and he his hard to blitz bc of his release. I honestly believe he is better thank your guy at LSU he had multiple games in 2022 where he just don’t show up. I truly believe P is nfl ready he can run play action or under center and you said his accuracy is off at time and I’m sorry I don’t now what film you been watching but he is a sniper hands down.
He's a problem taking snaps behind center. Draft, he'll go 26-45. Thanks appreciated.
The tape against Michigan is very concerning. You didn't touch on that game. He doesn't handle pressure that well and doesn't have touch of many of his throws.
He should not be a first round pick. Second round maybe. Not first round. First round is for guaranteed contracts. You don't want a guaranteed contract on a guy with 4 season ending injuries including 2 ACL's. He will have to be a pocket passer in the NFL. And he needs great receivers. His throwing motion will be an issue as well. It's too low.
Try top 10 by my Falkens.
The injury concern is a non issue imo. Put Superman behind that Indiana OL and even Superman will get injured. Go back and look at the films when Penix was at IU, that OL (especially the LT) was really bad.
I think you're way too nit picky. Every QB, even Patrick Mahomes misses throws during a game. Let this guy get in w/ the right NFL coaches and he will be a star.
A few things that stood out to me that capture the why Penix is QB1. You pointed out his greatness and consistency to replicate the tough or routine go-to nfl throws like the back shoulder(tough) or crosser(routine). Along with you said “he always seems to find the one on one coverage”, and throws accurately most of the time even if they’re not open he gives them a chance. That’s a mark of a great QB. That means he’s reading the defense and manipulating the coverage. To me CW and Maye are far too concerned with playing cowboy and hero ball.
I think Sean Payton takes him in Denver.
Falcons need to steal him trade up grab him end of first early second if not take Nix/Jj
Penix hasn't been hurt in 2 years, zero fkg baggage.
Penix easily is the best QB in the draft. Drake Maye has done nothing.
Penix has the toughness Williams lacks.
I like the fact that he's not a running QB. I see way too many running college and NFL QB's. Statues must learn the game the right way and not use running as a crutch. Backs get to eat as well as WR's. Linemen know where the QB is and get acclimated to the quarterbacks tendencies and ultimately are able to block better. This guy looks like an all pro. Hopefully the Commanders will draft him late as all the idiot, lazy scouts pass on him. All the short throws will be caught by NFL players. He's a shoe IN productive NFL QB from my perspective.
Second rounder. Too inconsistent. He had a couple of bad games during the season against bad teams, and then against Michigan he laid a rotten egg.
I respect that. Some ups and down Forsure. Plus, he did get injured 4 of his 6 college seasons, so that could always push his value down
The Falcons should get him
He is better than Brock Purdy when he came out .