Film Study: Why I think Michael Penix Jr. is UNDERRATED as a prospect
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I'm really glad someone is saying this stuff about Penix
Not me, I am still hoping Seattle grabs him at 16
@@Stinkinbadgez yeah sorry lol
As a UW fan that watched every game, no one talks about how clutch Penix was. The carried the team most of the year, UWs defense and run game were average, that’s why they were 7 point underdogs to Michigan and underdogs vs Texas. Everytime the team needed a play to keep the undefeated season alive he made it. He only had two bad games, Arizona State and Michigan, the rest of the time he was washing people. I hope my Raiders take him at 13. Go Dawgs Fuck Oregon
I watched every game too, except I thought he was not pass happy at all, and did not gloryhog as Dillon Johnson ended up with 1195 yards. I really think they could've beat Michigan had Dillan not been so beat up. I think Penix's ability to not be a selfish player and be willing to pound the Rock, even in the most dire circumstances makes him a more desirable prospect. Should be #1.
Even though the dawgs didnt finish the work, the last bar was so cold and i just had to give you your props. Ghis video os almkst prophetic as far as my falcons go and i hope hes ready when he begi s his reign in 2 years are so. His accuracyvand processing has me excited.
frank gore tore both his acls in college and had a 16 year career. if he can take care of himself he’ll be fine
Dude can spin it...strongest lefty I have ever seen.been watching football since 1993😮
Great option for the Vikings at 23 if they don’t trade up
lol would have to take him at 11 he not making it to 23
y'all better get him at 11 Seahawks might take him at 16
No thanks
I’m a raiders fan. And my fear is if they get this guy, his ceiling is Derek Carr. Accurate at times, throws the ball away or checks down too fast, has a great deep ball, and struggles with pressure and inconsistent. Which means he’s middle of the road QB who can’t help them take the next step. I just don’t wanna take a QB who doesn’t actually level up the players around him. But I realize I’m just shell shocked and maybe just seeing what he is now rather than what he could be. So perhaps unfavorably biased.
MARK MY WORDS QB1
I was also high on Kellen Mond. He fizzled out fast. Don't even know if he ever took a NFL snap. Same for Eason who the colts drafted.
If you can sell Kellen Mond = Michael Penix, you can sell ice to an Eskimo.
I just saw a scout on the rich eisen show say that this guy is going to go undrafted,
NO SCOUT SAID THAT!! STOP FIBBING!!
There was some speculation that he was gonna flunk his medicals, but he didn’t, so he’ll almost certainly be drafted
@@osirisapex7483 Almost🤣😂🤣😂Dude might be a first round pick so how do you figure almost?🤔
Several record companies passed on the Beatles also. Scout will look just as stupid.
@@Stinkinbadgez that’s stupid, Ryan Leaf, Akili Smith and a bunch of other guys were a sure thing at the next level… And never turned out to much, Penix is just a prospect with a bad medical record. We will see if he turns out to be anything in 2 years time!!!
The other dudes, Williams,Mayer, Mr.Heisman winner may have better physical traits but Penix has awareness and is composed under pressure. Really hope Raiders move back up he he slides into the 2nd.
If he can make his reads and progressions and use the entire field then he's an upgrade to Tua and a lot cheaper option freeing up money to add other players or retain the few stars on the team.
He's being overlooked massively,I hope my Raiders take him at 13.
💯👏👏👏
Penix is so much different than these other guys who others aren’t hot on that’s been underrated now. All those other guys like Hurts, and Mond are toolsy high upside prospects that needed time in an nfl offense catered to utilize their strengths. Penix is an “elite” quarterback prospect. He already reads defenses, runs an nfl offense, gets the ball out quickly to help his OL, looks off defenders, and most importantly, he makes NFL level throws(back shoulders, fades, deep posts, hole shots) time after time. Some of these top QBs throw maybe 2-5 of those throws a game where Penix throws at least 10-20 high level throws a game. He hard carries his team and elevates his teammates. If you don’t believe that, look at that statistics of his WR before they ever played with Penix? The best one was McMillan and he never eclipsed 500 yds before MP. People say Penix needs a certain offense and I laugh because it’s backwards. Penix can fit any offense and elevate poor talent teams like NE because he’s already been doing it.
Every scouting port I see on these quarterbacks changed my opinion. At first the things I heard about pen x were I don't want to touch this. Then he was my favorite second tier quarterback even preferred him over Jaden Daniels McCarthy. Then he was lower on my list And seem like he'd be a desperation pic. N now if the Giants draft him I'll be excited for his upside and hope they ball can teach him the necessary skills . Lord voice recognition did in a horrible job
I agree, Penix is an underrated prospect. Obviously, being one of the regular viewers and subscribers that are middle-aged, Penix reminds me of Kenny "Snake" Stabler, but likely not as good. Penix is a gun slinger whose preference is to play outside the offensive system. He frequently looks off his primary target that is usually underneath and prefers to throw deep. A criticism would be his dependency on arm strength, making risky throws down field and trying to outhrow coverage which will not be as available or successful at the next level. He lacks touch and accuracy in the short to intermediate passing game. His approach would frustrate many NFL coordinators and head coaches. As a positive his aggressiveness and mental acumen are above average. A negative is his skill sets bgins and ends with arm strength. If we learned anything from Bill Walsh is that an NFL QB cannot live or die on arm strength alone. His current evaluation for the upcoming draft is QB5 and projects as an effective career backup and anything before the 3rd round is an overdraft. At his inconsistent best he will temind us of Snake, at his more consistent worst, a lefthanded Carson Palmer. Buyer beware!
I think another big concern is he had 3 receivers who most likely none would skip to round 4 with one being one of the best in the draft and his o-line was rated as the best o-line in all of college football this most recent season.
@@michaelwicklundWithout question, Penix did benefit from a strong supporting cast at Washington. He may be a good fit for Minnesota or Denver in the upcoming draft.
@@JerseyGuys75 Minnesota more so since they have a solid o-line a good receiver core and and a good rb in Aaron Jones
@@michaelwicklund Kevin O'Connell is probably the best coach to work with Penix.
@@JerseyGuys75 I wouldn’t know since I don’t have in depth knowledge on coordinators and as HC he has only had a veteran and not someone who is young and needs developing
I hope we can get him with the 21st pick if He's still available 🐬🆙️
There a lot of positions the Dolphins need to fill other than quarterback. Skylar Thompson and Mike White aren’t great, but with how resilient Tua Tagovailoa has been this past season, I’d stick with him. A talent in the making.
@@JHVZ23 We need a actual franchise quarterback who can beat good teams in the regular season, plus one that actually has a chance of making it out of the first round in the playoffs, not no weak soft and very limited Tua 🛏💩🥋🧔🏾🗑🚮🤷🏽♂️💯💯
@@BatmanPops That's total nonsense. You're still stuck in 2022 when he was more concussion-prone. You want to see how he played in 2023, the year where more starters were injured than almost any in recent history, without missing any significant time and say he's weak and soft? And as for limitations, Tua and by extension the offense dragged the defense's sorry butts to the postseason in spite of Vic Fangio's failure to coach a sufficient modern NFL defensive scheme. Hopes that with a new tight end, more depth on defense, and Anthony Weaver as DC, the Dolphins are destined for a deep playoff run.
@@JHVZ23 Blah blah blah we ain't never winning 💩 with that soft weak limited B word 😒
@@BatmanPops If you can give me definitive proof that Tua Tagovailoa is soft, weak, or limited in the form of a statistic, then I'm willing to have a dialogue.
He's my favorite of the second round quality guys.
Beyond underrrrrated. He look like rookie steve young with a little aaron Rodgers in him
Definition of underrated
As a cowboy fan I either want lance after Dak or Him. I’d kill for a Jayden Daniel’s X Lamb tho
I thought the refs were Michigan fans, but Michigan played excellent defense and Michael had an off game.
In starting think raiders are best fit. Now they still have Aiden too
Vikes should draft bpa defense at 11 and use 23 to draft penix. Instead of giving up a bunch to get maye or mccarthy who aren't as good as penix. Imo
A shadow for TUA?
Penex is going to be good but it looks like the raiders are going I a different direction.
Would’ve rather have had the Bucs draft him than keep Baker
I think there are 7 QBs that are first round talent that are not talked about. I also think Caleb Williams will not succeed in Chicago. But first, I'll list the QBs who have first round talent, but a couple of them won't go in the first round. We all know the most talked about Caleb Williams, Jayden Daniels, and Drake Maye. Then there is that second tier of Michael Penix, JJ McCarthy, and Bo Nix. The sleeper is Jordan Travis. If he doesn't break his leg near the end of the season, he would be considered the second or third QB taken. He had Florida State undefeated, and they lost their bowl game to Georgia 63-3 because he wasn't out there. If Caleb Williams goes to Chicago, he will fail. If Jayden Daniels goes to New England, he will fail, and we know Chicago is going to draft Williams Washington should draft Maye and New England should draft JJ McCarthy or Bo Nix because of how cold it gets there. JJ McCarthy played in Michigan, and Bo Nix was in Oregon, where it gets very cold in both places. Chicago could also draft Maye, and Washington could draft Williams. But Chicago has a bad record for developing QB. Mich Tribisky and now Justin Fields. In recent history comes to mind. And you take a warm weather guy and have him try to play in freezing cold weather?! That never pans out well. I'm a Raiders fan, so I wish there was a way for the Raiders to get Jayden Daniels, but I'm also a fan of football, and I want to see Chicago, Washington, and these other QB needy teams get it right. I'm also looking at you, Minnesota. They also need a QB. So, Chicago, Washington, New England, The Raiders, The Vikings, maybe even the Giants and Denver all need QBs. That's 7 teams and 7 QBs. The goal is to match up the right QB with the right team fit. Sadly, that will not happen, but here is who I think would fit best with each team
Bears- Drake Maye
Washington- Caleb Williams
New England Michael Penix
Raiders Jayden Daniels
Vikings JJ McCarthy
Denver Bo Nix
Giants Jordan Travis
System, scheme fit, location, and coaching would put each of these guys in the position to succeed if they did this.
You sent penix to the worst team possible for him to go to and the pats didn’t even meet with him.
@Cowgirls9ershater Sending any of these QBs to New England and Chicago is the worst team possible for them to succeed, but I guess you can switch him and Bo Nix up. Or send Spencer Rattler to England. Joe Milton from Tennessee will be in the draft as well. How would you line them up?
@@devontegilliam9211 I just have a feeling that first 3 would be Caleb, Jayden, then drake maye and they go in the order of bears, commanders, pats.
@@Cowgirls9ershater Oh, yes. My comment was who they should go to as best fit, not how they will actually be drafted. The order in which they will actually be drafted will screw up their careers majorly
@@devontegilliam9211 oh well then penix is nowhere near best fit for patriots because they currently have no oline and no receivers. Penix is a pro style qb so he should go to Vikings, Seattle, or somewhere where there is a decent enough oline and good weapons
I think he is the best in this class. The miami should draft Penix JR. Let Tua go after this season. Tua not worthy of 50 to 55 million a year.
Had WA lost the TX game, but he played the same, and the MI game never happens... he is being talked about as QB 3 or 4 if the medical clears. If the medical is fine, he is better than Nix and McCarthey. He is a better pure, complete thrower than Maye and Daniels, albeit older. Maye has more upside, Daniels has crazy movement, but for a passing offense... Rams anyone(?) he is the perfect QB to replace Stafford.
ALSO LEAD CFB IN YARDS HOW IS HE NOT TOP 3
This one is easy though. The passing king
Raiders at 13 🙏
Nobody thinks he is underrated, its his injury history. NOONE! ESPN always talks about if not for injury, he would be top 3 or 4. What is this guy talking about
I think his tendons and ligaments ability to stay together is overrated. The guy already has the injury history of a retiring NFL player. "But Joe Burrow..." What-about-isms don't make good arguments. And Burrow made it to the Super Bowl, he gets a little slack, but even so, yeah I'm giving Burrow the side eye too.
He hasn’t been injured in 2 straight seasons AND passed his medicals, that narrative is dead 😭
If he hadn’t been injured, he’d be the number 1 overall pick
He’s going to the Broncos
That's cause nobody watches Washington all year.....
best quarterback this draft, extremely sound player.
Mf just a bigger slightly more athletic tua
How is it underrated when hes going round 1...
The injuries are enough of a red flag. Bottom line. Rd 2.
Not to mention he a bit on the older side. He 23 years old already he one year younger then Trevor Lawrence. We all know how the NFL feels about drafting QBs that played in college for five plus years.
But I do think he underrated though and some team is going to get a possible steal in the second round
fans, aka: stupid people make the false equivalency that if you dont run for over 500 yards you are not mobile...or if you dont run around behind the line for 10 sec every play that you are not mobile.
judging a player based on 1 game is a terrible idea or caleb would be a 5th rounder or later as he prob has the worst game out of all the qbs rated in the 1-2nd rounds...