Bought a 2016 pilot new. Still own it. Everything you mentioned happened to mine. Luckily had an extended warrantee which covered everything. The tachometer bouncing / transmission judder pops up about every 30k miles. Drain the transmission fluid, refill. Roll through all the gears including reverse X3 fixes the problem. Great review !
Thanks for the watch and for the feedback. Your confirmation that these issues are real are unfortunate but a reality. Best of luck with it going forward.
Thanks! 2018 Pilot EX-L with 70K. Just had code P219A that was fixed by dealer by replacing injectors. 6 speed transmission gets rough so I exchange fluid often. When we took to dealer they did fluid replacement and “burnishing.” Hood latch was reinforced by dealer. Still waiting on fuel pump parts for that recall. Good car overall with trans being main headache. Oh, and sometimes my wife’s phone doesn’t want to stay connected to apple carplay.
I own a 2016 touring, second owner, the keyless ignition problem was solved by the dealership with zero cost, along with a software update for the transmission and a reinforcement for the hood latch. After these issues fixed, I find the car excellent. Good gas mileage, confort and security all together.
Yes all those are free for now. Sometimes I’m the distant future some might find that part of the video helpful once the warranty extensions run out. Glad your having a good experience. Thanks for sharing
Can you do this for all Honda makes and models? Every single car reviewer talks about features and performance, it’s nice to be able to know if the car will actually be a headache to own! Thank you for your insight it’s much needed.
Nailed it. I've had the 2016 for 6 years. Great vehicle, but have faced trans "jutter" at 80k, Start button replaced, and warped front rotors at about 78k. Not too bad overall. Fixed all myself.
Nice and thanks for confirming my common issues as they are plenty of nay sayers I’m the comments. It’s always great when you can fix many of these rather simple “problems” yourself. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts.
@@BCautosolutions my 2017 Honda Pilot E has about 62,000 miles.. A warning came up on my center screen where the speedometer is located. It said "Transmission System Problem". I pulled the vehicle over and turned it off for about five minutes. I turned the vehicle back on and that warning message disappeared. Any thoughts! Thank you!
I've had all but the start button issue. I've replaced injectors, brake rotors, front struts, and the transmission problem comes on randomly. I've got 255k miles on my 2016 though. It still runs really well.
Bought brand new a 2017 Touring edition (still own), all problems mentioned have appeared. Already replaced ignition switch my self ( about $65 OEM). Currently getting the emissions problem catalytic converter code, miss fire codes, but still runs like great. I'm a long commuter, car will hit the 165K miles in a week so definitely out of warranty :( but luckily I'm a good DIY mechanic so I'm able to save some $$$ and do most of the maintenance and repairs myself. Thanks for the pointers, will take a look at the fuel injectors first before messing with the catalytic converters. ;)
Really appreciate the feedback! Yes, don’t go changing the cats out before the injectors. If you really want to be sure have someone perform a cylinder AF test to confirm failure. Good luck 👍🏻
I have owned mine for three years. Bought in 2021. Replaced the timing belt and water pump myself, sucks to change trans fluid. But brake caliper slides fail. Can't put a frost plug heater in it, but a hose heater will do the trick.
Timing belt tensioner leaks and needs to be replaced because you'll hear loud ticking. Front lower control arms bushings dry out and crack. Front struts collapse and fluid leaks out and need to be replaced. If you get a transmission code and transmission is banging into second gear, you'll need to change a transmission pressure sensor. There are 4 sensors, a bluetooth code reader will tell you which one.
Have 2016 90k, noticed hissing noice and vibration when changing gears and breaking. ⚙️ no sign on the dashboard. Dealer said transmission needed to be fixed at the cost of $8k
Couple of things I can add, 2016 pilot touring (elite) in Canada, engine knock sensor failed at about 140000km, out of pocket expense. Tailgate rust under license plate light, rust through, changed tailgate, under warranty. Fan blower motor likes to make noise in cold weather, didn’t bother to change, procedure is easy, oem motor is pricey. Fog light used to be beaten up by rocks/road debris.
2016 Pilot Touring AWD, 120K miles Currently, dealing with the service bulletin issue that causes multiple codes to flash at once, and requires fuel injector replacement. My local dealer advised me this would be warranted at no cost to me....however, the parts are on backorder. I can’t help but wonder if I told them I wanted to replace the fuel injectors just for better performance, and am paying out of pocket, that the parts mysteriously would be in stock. 🤔 i’m going to reach out to some out-of-town dealers to see if I can get some help on the issue. (I also had my push button start replaced, which was warranted. And replaced my front struts, but that was due to wear and tear)
@@BCautosolutions - AutoZone, Oriely and other 3rd party non-OEM sites claim to have them in stock, ready to ship. You think it's good to go to a local mechanic to see if they can get the parts in and do it? Or order them myself and have a mechanic do the work? Or does it absolutely need to be done by a dealer in order for the codes to be cleared? Like I said, this being a warranty issue, I can't help but think the parts will be on back order indefinitely.
Well.......at 58,409 miles it finally happened on my 2016 Pilot Touring. Was driving it on the interstate today and it started losing power, transmission going in and out of gear. The Emissions Controls problem and Transmission problem flashed on the dash. Got it towed to the local Honda dealer now. Waiting to hear the diagnosis. Hope it's just that the injectors need replaced, Honda will pay for it and it fixes the Transmission problem
So far the software update seems to have fixed it. I drove it another 50 -60 miles today with in town and highway driving and it shifted flawlessly!@@BCautosolutions
I would also add the AC blower motor and also HVAC Control Module. Both have gone out twice on my 2016 Honda Pilot. Also can verify, as I have gone through all 4 issues before on this car.
I’ve experienced all these issues and the trans-jitter has gotten worse so taking it to the dealership. Unfortunately, although I have 7 years with the car, it just went over the 80k mileage count.
@hondamobilemechanic - i just bought a used 2017 Pilot Touring a week ago with 95K miles. I just took the car on its first long trip and at random times, primarily while trying to pass a car on the Interstate, whenever i would try to accelerate to pass a car , it would make a hissing sound by the steering wheel, the speed would drop to about 40-45 MPH and the gas pedal would go limp. I would press on the gas but it would not accelerate, i would need to pull back to the right lane behind the car i was trying to pass and eventually the gas peddal would work and the car would accelerate. This happened randomly, even once when i was just cruising and there were no car infront of me. There where few times when i had cars right on my tail and the car would drop from about 70MPH to 45MPHs.. it really freaked me out and my wife is a little freaked out about driving the car, especially with the kids on the car. I have not seen that mentioned anywhere. Any thoughts on what it could be? Also, this happened with ECON on and off, LKAS off and Lane Departure both On and Off. Thanks in advance for any input.
Hey, first thing I would check is the intake tube going from air filter housing to the throttle body. Check all side for cracks/tears, don’t be gentle either. Lmk how you make out.
@@BCautosolutions Thanks for the reply. I did the check as you mentioned, but did not find any tears or cracks. Here is the update on the whole thing, I did make an appointment with the dealership, since it was a week old since i had purchased it, they were able to replicate the issue, but it actually became immobile for them as they drove it back from their test drive. The transmission had gone bad. They will be replacing it for me. It is still covered under the Honda Care warranty. Thank you for your reply and your help!
@@alanizar thank you for the update and luckily it happened to them and not while you were driving it. Best of luck and let me know how it feels after the repair. Honda care is a must! Nice job 🙌
@@BCautosolutions the injectors were early on so they covered it. When I asked about the transmission stutter and the key fob they said they would check it and they said nothing was wrong with transmission so I just flushed it and it went away. But now it seems I have to change transmission fluid regularly to stop the stutter. Key start was pretty much told the same as the light went away. But both mine and my neighbors suv both do the same thing with push start button. I will send it in now to get the push button fixed.
@@seekwrage yes, there’s definitely a warranty extension for it, just tell them to replace it smh, idk why they are so against doing it, easy 10 minute job everyone wins. Best of luck with it.
My mom has a 2016, bought new. Honda reliable it is not. Had injector issues, Push start button changed twice, and the suspension is weak. How the mighty have fallen.
I have a 2016 pilot, It had injector issues but Honda payed for it as it was a recall issue, I love my car. It's my 2nd Honda, I'll be buying a 3rd soon😊
@@aracelicarrazco4469 ironic that my mom's trash 2016 Pilot just put her down about two hours ago😑. Luckily, she bought a new Hyundai to replace that pos. Modern Honda is the Chrysler of Japanese automobiles.
Hi im on the process to get one at auction i checked carfax and shows transmission fluid change on may 2024 and fuel injectors remmplace on may 2021 and is 9 speed transmission
2018 Pilot elite. Luckily haven’t had any of these issues. But, we continue to have throttle sensitivity issues. So difficult to achieve a smooth acceleration in the earlier gears. Any suggestions?
I just bought a 2016 Honda Pilot ex with 126k miles on it and the used car dealer was telling me to get a extended warranty and make sure it includes electrical systems and the way he said it now has me worried. They only gave me a 30 day warranty on the motor and only half on parts and labor and I have to use them for the repair. I have the car fax report and the vehicle was just service and inspection in February. It doesn't say what was serviced so I guess I should take it to my guy and have him check the transmission fluid and the whole vehicle 😢
Yeah the electrical stuff is pretty solid on those years. I’d be more worried about the trans juddering then anything. Definitely check that and change it asap!
I am now having issues with starting. I went out one morning and went to start it and it sounded like the battery was going dead. The alarm wouldn't set and it had the clicking noise and then dead. I had it jumped and drove it for a little while and went to reverse and I had the steering wheel turned as I was backing up and it bucked and made a strange sound had no power and I straightened the wheel and power was back and parked it got out and didn't touch it for 3 days. Went out on a warm dry day and it started right up and had no issues. Then next day I went to start it and it did a slow crank and started. I am so mad have car 2 months now and issues starting.
@@dreamtoreality9892 sorry to hear, sounds like you might be having battery and/or charging issues. Need to have to checked out before it leaves your stranded.
The most common issue is the 65miles transmission system pop up and the car drives normal. When you turn off car it goes away. Dealerships ripped people off telling customers they need a new transmission only to have the same problem occur when they reach speeds of 65mh.
From my experience with my Mom's Pilot the rotors don't warp, the problem is that the brake pads get really hot and leaves deposits on the rotor surface, causing the pulsations and feeling like warp rotors, the Honda brand brake pads are the worst. Switching to ALL Akebono brake pads or a Semi metallic low resin brake pad will work as well
That is your timing belt tensioner. If you let that go longer, you'll start to hear loud ticking which sounds like it's coming out of your engine, but it's the tensioner.
I have a 2017 Pilot AWD. I love it, but I did have the trans jutter issue. The dealer was able to fix that. And now I am experiencing the front rotor issue, I'm assuming. Steering wheel vibration when braking. 85,000 miles on it. I'll be addressing that next. Still love the Pilot, though.
Man i was thinking about buying 2016-18 Honda pilot but seeing some off these reviews makes me nervous about buying it now. I have a cr-v now really reliable so I was the pilot would be the same. Thoughts? Is it worth buying?
I have a 2018 CRV, as well. Love it, too! I think the Pilot is still a good buy. With it's size and power I am happy with it. Really no issues at all other that trans jutter. But the flush fixed it. @@wdaycock
hey i’m not sure if you’re still responding to messages on this post but would love your input on a problem with my 2017 Honda Pilot touring. Runs great 98% of the time but every now and then it has a problem starting after i pushed the start stop button. usually i wait a minute and press it again and it struggles then kicks on. this happens only once out of 50 times i start the car but just today it wouldn’t kick on. got it jumped and it started, took it to check the battery and they said battery was good. i always have the idle off function off cause i was having an issue with the engine trying to kick on after idle and it would turn off the car. does this sound familiar at all? trying to keep from spending thousands to figure it out. Thanks in advance!
I am driving a 2018 Pilot EX, I encountered the fuel injector issue and transmission issue. Fuel injectors and torque converters were replaced under the extended warranty.
what about the capless gas cap? I am getting an emission problem screen, no codes and no misfires. Seen others with this problem, problem goes away after refilling gas tank. Goes a month or 2 between and only when cold. 2017 Pilot EXL with 70k miles. My dealer acts like they never have any problems, mainly the shudder. They did flush once and have done it once. Easier than taking it in and not having it for a few days.
@@BCautosolutions no codes or misfires, dash says emission system problem. I take gas funnel and work in and out, spray WD40 and warning goes away. It has happened 3 times in the last 2 years and always clears after a fillup.
Great video - thanks! Can you please explain the injector issue a little more? I'm picking up a used 2017 with 118K KM in a few days. I do my own work. This is my first direct-inject vehicle. Do I need to replace the injectors? Have the valves cleaned? Thanks in advance if you see this.
Honda claims the injector issue is a manufacturing defect which I find suspicious but we have seen only a handful come back post injector replacement for another set. Luckily there is a service bulletin for now that wouldn’t cost you any money. Best of luck
@ I am new to owning a pilot I went and got the code checked they weren’t able to fix it under the warranty. The warranty is 50,000 miles or three years which ever comes sooner and mine was over three years so they didn’t want to fix it. But the code I got wasn’t a major issue. It’s not the injectors or anything.
Hey there, First off.. thank you for making this video. I am the 3rd owner for a 2016 Honda Pilot recently bought... "Transmission System problem" is on the dash board. I took it to a mechanic that did the transmission fluid flush... after a couple hours of driving the message is still up on the dash board. Would it be safe to say that the prpblem could be the code "P177A" if so, what is that and would it be a costly fix? Thank you in advance for your time and for responding.
Hello thank you for the info my 2016 has a error code u 3000 multipurpose camera malfuntion LKas warning, cruise control warning, frontal mitagation assit warning. Is the camera covered under any extra warrenty because its part of the safty system? Any info would help thanks.
Hi. Can you give me a hint? A message came up on the dashboard "emission System problem" I read errors p2096 and p2270 honda pilot 2017. Internet says similar problem although there is no extraneous sound. Can you tell me what could be the most common? How much it is estimated at least approximately! And I don't understand everything, I use a translator. Thank you.
Looking at buying a used 2017 Touring. Is there a new revision on the fuel injectors that fixes the issue or would I constantly have to replace them every x miles?
So how do we fix the injector issue you mentioned taking it to the dealer. But what if you are out of warranty? Maybe i missunderstood is there any way to fix it myself?
We have a 2017 pilot ex-l….. just had to get the fuel injectors replaced and previously had the push button start replaced. Ours has about 55k miles on it. My question is should we look to trade it in soon when our extended warranty runs out or keep it? We have not been regularly changing transmission fluid (have appointment to do that for the first time next week). I don’t want to have to get a new transmission right after the warranty runs out. Thanks for input!!
So at 55k if you start with the aggressive transmission services you should still be ok. With interest rates through the roof and climbing I think holding onto it and meticulous maintenance going forward would be my personal game plan.
Thanks for taking the time to put a video like this together. I have a 2016 pilot with the 6 sp and 86k; I just recently noticed the shudder if I am cruising with light to no throttle, and then when I gently reengage the throttle the shudder happens. Since it's past the 80k am I out of luck to have the dealer do anything? Also, if I change the trans fluid every 15k do you think the trans will last?
Hey, so even tho your above the 80k it won’t hurt to see if they will still cover it. I’d not do a 3x trans flush and then every 15k do a transmission service going forward. The trans should be ok but obviously there’s no guarantee in that.
@Hondamobilemechanic thanks for the advice. After watching your other pilot videos, I believe I miss spoke in regards to the Judder. If cruising at almost any mph, it feels like the torque converter lags to fully re-engage when letting off on the gas pedal for a few seconds, and the n reapplying throttle input. Any ideas? Some in the forums blamed poor converter lock up on the vcm.
@@RyanKrantz could be, would have to see some data before I could give a reasonable diagnosis unfortunately. Definitely something you want to have your local dealer look up.
Awesome video! My wife 2016 pilot 6spd trans just started that issue a few months ago. Goin to have the fluid changed and see what happens. Question….is it because the fluid breaks down that causes the problems? Thank you and keep the videos coming!
@@BCautosolutions Thanks again HMM... Well there is another issue she has now..when you start to drive from a stop the shifts from first to second gear has a hard "clunk" shift or disengage depending on speed under 25 mph. It only happened twice over the few weeks. After turning it off and restarting it it does not do it. No codes. Maybe a solenoid? Thank you
@@Tjn6898 sounds like a pressure switch may have some debri in it. I have a count at work of which ones I’ve replaced more often. You can either wait until a code pops up or go ahead and change both. They are fairly affordable and easy to replaceZ
My wife has a 2016 pilot, when cold outside when you push button to open rear hatch it will open all the way up and will close as soon as it get open ! It will put pressure on you but will stop . Not sure what it would do with a child using it !!!
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights. I am looking to purchase as used (new to me) Pilot and have been reading mixed messages about the transmission. Some say get the 6speed some say get the 9speed. Which one would you recommend? I know the the only comes in the Touring and up models and the 6speed on the EX-L and below trims. Looking at 2017 and up model years possibly till 2019 only - or as budget permits. Thanks!
Hey thanks for watching. So people saying don’t get the 9 speed don’t have any idea what they or saying or experience. We have had nearly zero issues with the 9 speed. The 6 speed is problematic but if you stay on top of the transmission services (I highly recommend every 15k a drain and fill) then it can get a way less problematic trans as well just like the 9 speed. Buying a used one can be risky because chances are proper maintence wasn’t done on the 6 speed and could be too little too late, for that reason I say go with the 9 speed if the budget allows to get, which like you said comes on a higher trim pilot.
@@BCautosolutions Thank you so much for replying back to me. I really appreciate your time and effort. And thank you for the advice as well on which transmission to get. As mentioned, I am getting mixed reviews on both transmissions, both have been said to be problematic with the shudders and rough shifts and loss of power. But now I am confident in getting the 9Spd over the 6Spd thanks to you. I’m also a subscriber to your channel now as well. Looking forward to learning more about Hondas. Cheers!
I apologize for butting in but I wouldn’t recommend a Honda Pilot. I have a 2017 and it’s not a good car. I bought is used with very low mileage but it’s already becoming an issue. This is my 2nd Honda and both have had issues within 3 to 5 years of manufacturing. If I could go back in time I would get a Toyota. Toyota has never given me (my son or husband being the main mechanics for usual things) issues until they got beyond 10 years old or older. That’s as long as you do regular maintenance but that goes for most cars. I’ve just experienced that Honda isn’t as reliable as Toyota since I don’t have a lot of money to spend of mechanics that do things that my son or husband couldn’t do for whatever reasons. Wish you the best!
@@susana5052 thanks for your input, I can assure you Toyota has their own share of issues… I’m actually getting closer and closer to making a video about all the issues they are having. Our sister Toyota store is literally across the street.
Just checking things out as I am also planning on getting into a used (new 4 me) 2018 touring, and I need some assurance that it is a good decision. I am curious, though, just to make sure the 9spd is NOT CVT, correct? And how often would you recommend servicing on the 9 spd?
I enjoyed the video. I just bought a 2017 EX-L AWD 6spd and I noticed the tachometer fluctuating. The vehicle has 74,000 miles and I did get an extended warranty from the dealer. Should I request a trans fluid change? Or just mention the issue and see what they will do. Thanks in advance for any help. -Jake
Mention the issue. Tell them you know it’s a “thing” with these cars. I have a few videos on this matter. Tell them to check for pcm updates and perform if needed as well as the 3x trans drain/fill.
I am about to buy a used 2016 EX-L with 80k miles from car max. Would you recommended buying with warranty to cover any unwanted issues? Or would issues ve to many to not be worth it? What is yoir take on it? Car is well maintained and all changes/Maitanance was done in dealership on time unitl now. 1 owner.
If it was well maintained you should be ok, the car besides what I’ve mentioned is relatively solid. Depending on the price of the warranty and what is covers (if relatively thorough) still isn’t a bad idea in the event of an out of the normal failure.
@@TheCaioKyleBraga Hi, Car is at 130K miles bought it at 116K. The first thing I did was do a complete Maitanance check and upgrade. I would recommend getting all the needed Maitanance such as timing belt, spat plugs, brakes, etc. After that car should be good.
2018 Pilot: Six speed Transmission failed at 58,500 miles; hard shifting and P0776 code. Honda replaced at no charge but said there was no warranty on the remanufactured transmission.
You have to change trans fluid and external filter at least every 40000 miles or the tiny little filter will clog up and you'll have your flutter or jiggly gears
Hi, I'm experiencing the torque converter/transmission issues you have explained at @ 2:00 , do you have more info on the warranty extension for 8 year/80k I haven't heard of this do I need to work with American Honda to extend the powertrain warranty? My vehicle is at a dealer with a TC replacement at the moment after P0741 code. TC replacement made it worse and waiting for American Honda to grant a new transmission under powertrain warranty.
I'm experiencing the same problem on a 2019 6 speed... I'm at 60k+ and was told my warranty was over.. so my question is the same.. How do I find the info on the warranty extension you mentioned I'm in California..don't know if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance
Thanks for sharing.. bought a 2019 with the 9 speed. Get the weird pull back on the transmission. Brother had a rdx type s with same issue. Is that a common issue?
Hey, thanks for watching. The 9 speed trans on the pilot has been rock solid, not really sure what you mean by pullback, but I’ve had no issues with them on any Honda. The rdx a spec (no Type s version of that car) uses a Honda 10at which also has been pretty solid on various applications.
@@JesusGonzalez-kj4jd thats a primary bank 2 cat code that sometimes can be thrown by faulty injectors. A af test has to be ran with a scan tool to see if any of the injectors fail. It’s going to end up being injectors and/or catalytic convertor.
I have a Honda pilot 2016 of all that I have said 9 high -speed transmission, I have never failed, but sometimes the sound comes from it as if elephants are shouting, it was always, I don’t know if there is such a sound for other owners. The ignition button also junk, but I took it off and processed WD40 and the problem was solved. The front brakes are the same as in the video, if they are warmed up and you drove into a deep puddle, you will have to go to grind them. This is the problem I have now: at the intersections when the engine stalls, it will no longer start, so I have to turn off the car and turn it on again. Maybe someone knows how to solve this problem.
My ‘18 Touring sometimes hesitates then surges when accelerating from a stop. I’ll press the gas, RPM barely moves for 2-3 seconds, them vroom 3000 RPM. It happens with eco mode both on and off. I’m up to date on all scheduled maintenance. I did notice it started when I had one new tire 🛞 installed due to a flat, so I suspect it’s 4wd/transfer case related, but not sure. Problem persisted after changing all 4 tires out. Any fixes?
@@BCautosolutions Yes mostly when cold like leaving my driveway in the morning (I always remotely warm up the engine), but it also occurs sporadically during normal driving when accelerating from a stop sign when engine/transmission are warm. What should I do?
@@kazj1728 if it’s when it’s cold and first drive it could be normal to an extent, randomly throughout the day your going to be looking at an internal issue most likely.
@@BCautosolutions Thanks. It’s probably mostly due to cold running, but I suspect if it’s internal then it’s the 4wd system doing something as the engine doesn’t even respond to throttle input for that brief 1-2 second period. The car threw a P0304 misfire code which prompted the dealer to change out the fuel injectors and gaskets a while back (free under a recall or something), so I hopeful it was fuel system related, but no, it kept happening. It might be placebo effect, but I feel like it’s less prevalent after I’ve had the oil/transmission/diff/transfer fluid changed, and more pronounced when these fluids are old. Any idea of codes I should be looking for?
Hey man, would you still recommend being a tech nowadays? Im pushing B level skills with honda/acura and idk if its me or or the industry but ive been struggling to make money. Ive had my 70 hr weeks but it wasnt easy and theyre rare. A lot of diagnosing needed with these newer cars that dont pay anything like how do you make ends meet with that??? Btw thanks for giving us the heads up on what to look out of with these cars
Hey man, so it’s definitely getting harder and harder to make hours, with all the added diag, bulletins, etc. if you have an opertunity to switch careers and make same/more money I would take that for sure.
@Hondamobilemechanic honestly I don't remember. I didn't even know honda has 3 supposedly. I just did whatever the shop said. My car was having problems when I pushed the gas it would take forever to pick up speed.
QUESTION : So the other day my honda accord would make a clicking noise(or should I say it sounded like it was struggling to start) when I would turn the key to start the car🥴🥴. AAA came out and hooked up their tester and found "nothing wrong"...he even took the battery out to "reset" it.. car started after that(this was monday)..fast forward to TODAY and same noise happening again,only this time it hasn't not came on,just keep hearing a clicking noise(I suspect it was the starter but he saysss nothing is wrong lol),should I be concerned?
@@BCautosolutions LOL just now seeing your comment! Yeah I took it to two AAA approved shops close to my house and both said it could possibly be that or something "deeper"🤨🤨...I just feel like my baby hasn't been picking up fast like she used too
They have come a long way since 06-08. Really the only problematic ones are the 6at and some cvts. No where as bad as early 90s - mid 00s. Back then we were doing 3-4 trans a day! Now we do maybe 5 a month. Huge difference and improvement.
@@BCautosolutions im considering buying an SUV either Honda pilot or Acura MDX, just doing little research, i wish u would do video about "the best reliable Model years to buy " for either Honda pilot or Acura MDX , that would be an awesome video series.
Hello I am a Uber driver. I’ve had this car since 2016 the new I hold 202,000miles. Please take it from a person with experience not a mechanic every problem he has said I have had the fuel injector problems first came to me when I had 30,000 miles on the dealership and the corporation did not want to take responsibility. Oh my God screwed $2000 to fix something that’s not my fault, second of all the transmission the same thing he said happened to me I have never seen a transmission like this car. I have to change the oil every oil change roughly between 5 to 7000 miles ridiculous I’ve had the same problem with the pushbutton start. Thank God I fixed it myself. The store has been nothing but a big royal pain in the ass. I wish I never purchased it. I also was the person that told me the store is on the lowest part of hell
So first off I want to apologize for their incompetence. The injectors have a warranty extension and if you have paper work stating you paid it I would 💯 try and get reimbursed. The start/stop switch also has a warranty extension, although that’s a fairly cheap repair and not as critical to peruse imo. The biggest deal is the trans! Yes with Uber/Lyft we have to change the fluid at a very ridiculous and unreasonable rate as you have stated. Best of luck going forward 👍🏻
I have the receipt for fixing the fuel injectors I fixed them the second year I got this car which was a 2017 which I took her to the Honda dealership and they replaced it where do you want me to upload or email you the receipt from Honda I have it
@@ziad9649 yes that’s about when we started changing them. I would just contact corporate American Honda and see what they can say. I can’t get involved in that. I’m not sure what they will do, it’s worth a shot tho for sure. Good luck with it 👍🏻
Bought a 2016 pilot new. Still own it. Everything you mentioned happened to mine. Luckily had an extended warrantee which covered everything.
The tachometer bouncing / transmission judder pops up about every 30k miles. Drain the transmission fluid, refill. Roll through all the gears including reverse X3 fixes the problem.
Great review !
Thanks for the watch and for the feedback. Your confirmation that these issues are real are unfortunate but a reality. Best of luck with it going forward.
My car still bounces rpm after transmission
@@yourdad1483 used or reman? You should take it back
New one
@@yourdad1483 I would absolutely take it back
Thanks! 2018 Pilot EX-L with 70K. Just had code P219A that was fixed by dealer by replacing injectors. 6 speed transmission gets rough so I exchange fluid often. When we took to dealer they did fluid replacement and “burnishing.” Hood latch was reinforced by dealer. Still waiting on fuel pump parts for that recall. Good car overall with trans being main headache. Oh, and sometimes my wife’s phone doesn’t want to stay connected to apple carplay.
@@henderni101 thank you so much and thanks for sharing!
2016 Honda Pilot owner and you got all 3 of the issues I’ve had with mine.
Thanks for confirming. Best of luck with it
I own a 2016 touring, second owner, the keyless ignition problem was solved by the dealership with zero cost, along with a software update for the transmission and a reinforcement for the hood latch. After these issues fixed, I find the car excellent. Good gas mileage, confort and security all together.
Yes all those are free for now. Sometimes I’m the distant future some might find that part of the video helpful once the warranty extensions run out. Glad your having a good experience. Thanks for sharing
I had an issue with a jumping tachometer (6 speed). Just exchanged transmission fluid and it helped. Didn't do any firmware updates.
The jumping tachometer is a result from the transmission judder, that’s why the fluid fixed it. Thanks for your input.
Can you do this for all Honda makes and models? Every single car reviewer talks about features and performance, it’s nice to be able to know if the car will actually be a headache to own! Thank you for your insight it’s much needed.
Absolutely, I’ll be doing 1 newer (current model on sale and previous gens) video every 1-2 weeks. Stay tuned and thanks for watching.
Nailed it. I've had the 2016 for 6 years. Great vehicle, but have faced trans "jutter" at 80k, Start button replaced, and warped front rotors at about 78k. Not too bad overall. Fixed all myself.
Nice and thanks for confirming my common issues as they are plenty of nay sayers I’m the comments. It’s always great when you can fix many of these rather simple “problems” yourself. Thanks for watching and leaving your thoughts.
@@BCautosolutions my 2017 Honda Pilot E has about 62,000 miles.. A warning came up on my center screen where the speedometer is located. It said "Transmission System Problem". I pulled the vehicle over and turned it off for about five minutes. I turned the vehicle back on and that warning message disappeared. Any thoughts! Thank you!
@@steveroe7712 could be anything, but my guess would be a pressure switch) hopefully there is a code stored and give you some guidance.
I replaced my push button myself. I have the 2016 exl and I have the jitter on trans
Could you please let me know how you fixed the trans judder?
I've had all but the start button issue. I've replaced injectors, brake rotors, front struts, and the transmission problem comes on randomly. I've got 255k miles on my 2016 though. It still runs really well.
Thanks for sharing
Bought brand new a 2017 Touring edition (still own), all problems mentioned have appeared. Already replaced ignition switch my self ( about $65 OEM). Currently getting the emissions problem catalytic converter code, miss fire codes, but still runs like great. I'm a long commuter, car will hit the 165K miles in a week so definitely out of warranty :( but luckily I'm a good DIY mechanic so I'm able to save some $$$ and do most of the maintenance and repairs myself. Thanks for the pointers, will take a look at the fuel injectors first before messing with the catalytic converters. ;)
Really appreciate the feedback! Yes, don’t go changing the cats out before the injectors. If you really want to be sure have someone perform a cylinder AF test to confirm failure. Good luck 👍🏻
Did you get anymore problems on yours just got 17 tour aswell 108k just hoping it’s reliable
I have owned mine for three years. Bought in 2021. Replaced the timing belt and water pump myself, sucks to change trans fluid. But brake caliper slides fail. Can't put a frost plug heater in it, but a hose heater will do the trick.
@@johnanderson8705 thanks for sharing
Timing belt tensioner leaks and needs to be replaced because you'll hear loud ticking. Front lower control arms bushings dry out and crack. Front struts collapse and fluid leaks out and need to be replaced. If you get a transmission code and transmission is banging into second gear, you'll need to change a transmission pressure sensor. There are 4 sensors, a bluetooth code reader will tell you which one.
@@OneBadAssDJ ✅✅
Have 2016 90k, noticed hissing noice and vibration when changing gears and breaking. ⚙️ no sign on the dashboard. Dealer said transmission needed to be fixed at the cost of $8k
Yeah I would definitely get a second opinion.
Couple of things I can add, 2016 pilot touring (elite) in Canada, engine knock sensor failed at about 140000km, out of pocket expense. Tailgate rust under license plate light, rust through, changed tailgate, under warranty. Fan blower motor likes to make noise in cold weather, didn’t bother to change, procedure is easy, oem motor is pricey. Fog light used to be beaten up by rocks/road debris.
Yeah I’ve done knock sensors, no tailgate issues. Noisy blower motors is across the line up. Thanks for sharing
2016 Pilot Touring AWD, 120K miles
Currently, dealing with the service bulletin issue that causes multiple codes to flash at once, and requires fuel injector replacement. My local dealer advised me this would be warranted at no cost to me....however, the parts are on backorder.
I can’t help but wonder if I told them I wanted to replace the fuel injectors just for better performance, and am paying out of pocket, that the parts mysteriously would be in stock. 🤔
i’m going to reach out to some out-of-town dealers to see if I can get some help on the issue.
(I also had my push button start replaced, which was warranted. And replaced my front struts, but that was due to wear and tear)
Can confirm they are on backorder 😅
@@BCautosolutions - AutoZone, Oriely and other 3rd party non-OEM sites claim to have them in stock, ready to ship. You think it's good to go to a local mechanic to see if they can get the parts in and do it? Or order them myself and have a mechanic do the work? Or does it absolutely need to be done by a dealer in order for the codes to be cleared?
Like I said, this being a warranty issue, I can't help but think the parts will be on back order indefinitely.
@@achavez78 with engine stuff I do not like using aftermarket brand parts. I would wait tbh. It typically doesn’t affect Drive ability.
@@BCautosolutions I appreciate your help!
Shout-out from Yuma, Arizona!
@@achavez78 anytime
Well.......at 58,409 miles it finally happened on my 2016 Pilot Touring. Was driving it on the interstate today and it started losing power, transmission going in and out of gear. The Emissions Controls problem and Transmission problem flashed on the dash. Got it towed to the local Honda dealer now. Waiting to hear the diagnosis. Hope it's just that the injectors need replaced, Honda will pay for it and it fixes the Transmission problem
Updates?
So far the software update seems to have fixed it. I drove it another 50 -60 miles today with in town and highway driving and it shifted flawlessly!@@BCautosolutions
@@stevegordon5243 glad to hear, appreciate the update
Thank you for the followup!@@BCautosolutions
@@stevegordon5243 ✅
I would also add the AC blower motor and also HVAC Control Module. Both have gone out twice on my 2016 Honda Pilot. Also can verify, as I have gone through all 4 issues before on this car.
@@MrDarkparadox got it
Just what I was looking for.
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I’ve experienced all these issues and the trans-jitter has gotten worse so taking it to the dealership. Unfortunately, although I have 7 years with the car, it just went over the 80k mileage count.
Sorry to hear, hopefully they can help
You out
@hondamobilemechanic - i just bought a used 2017 Pilot Touring a week ago with 95K miles. I just took the car on its first long trip and at random times, primarily while trying to pass a car on the Interstate, whenever i would try to accelerate to pass a car , it would make a hissing sound by the steering wheel, the speed would drop to about 40-45 MPH and the gas pedal would go limp. I would press on the gas but it would not accelerate, i would need to pull back to the right lane behind the car i was trying to pass and eventually the gas peddal would work and the car would accelerate. This happened randomly, even once when i was just cruising and there were no car infront of me. There where few times when i had cars right on my tail and the car would drop from about 70MPH to 45MPHs.. it really freaked me out and my wife is a little freaked out about driving the car, especially with the kids on the car. I have not seen that mentioned anywhere. Any thoughts on what it could be? Also, this happened with ECON on and off, LKAS off and Lane Departure both On and Off. Thanks in advance for any input.
Hey, first thing I would check is the intake tube going from air filter housing to the throttle body. Check all side for cracks/tears, don’t be gentle either. Lmk how you make out.
@@BCautosolutions Thanks for the reply. I did the check as you mentioned, but did not find any tears or cracks. Here is the update on the whole thing, I did make an appointment with the dealership, since it was a week old since i had purchased it, they were able to replicate the issue, but it actually became immobile for them as they drove it back from their test drive. The transmission had gone bad. They will be replacing it for me. It is still covered under the Honda Care warranty. Thank you for your reply and your help!
@@alanizar thank you for the update and luckily it happened to them and not while you were driving it. Best of luck and let me know how it feels after the repair. Honda care is a must! Nice job 🙌
Damn. Wish I would of seen this video 13k miles ago.
Sorry, how many of these issues have you had happen to you?
I have had the Injectors, push start button and transmission stutter.
@@seekwrage sounds about right, yet some people think I’m making this up. Hopefully some/all of it was covered under the bulletin warranty extensions?
@@BCautosolutions the injectors were early on so they covered it. When I asked about the transmission stutter and the key fob they said they would check it and they said nothing was wrong with transmission so I just flushed it and it went away. But now it seems I have to change transmission fluid regularly to stop the stutter. Key start was pretty much told the same as the light went away. But both mine and my neighbors suv both do the same thing with push start button. I will send it in now to get the push button fixed.
@@seekwrage yes, there’s definitely a warranty extension for it, just tell them to replace it smh, idk why they are so against doing it, easy 10 minute job everyone wins. Best of luck with it.
My mom has a 2016, bought new. Honda reliable it is not. Had injector issues, Push start button changed twice, and the suspension is weak. How the mighty have fallen.
How many of those items weren’t covered by warranty?
I have a 2016 pilot, It had injector issues but Honda payed for it as it was a recall issue, I love my car. It's my 2nd Honda, I'll be buying a 3rd soon😊
@@aracelicarrazco4469 ironic that my mom's trash 2016 Pilot just put her down about two hours ago😑. Luckily, she bought a new Hyundai to replace that pos. Modern Honda is the Chrysler of Japanese automobiles.
Yes I found this out the hard way Smdh -this ain’t ur grandfathers Honda that was past down from generations
Hi im on the process to get one at auction i checked carfax and shows transmission fluid change on may 2024 and fuel injectors remmplace on may 2021 and is 9 speed transmission
What u think should be ok !! I want buy to make a 5k mile round trip
Its 2016 elite with 85k miles
@@chompymac2943 should be fine
2018 Pilot elite. Luckily haven’t had any of these issues. But, we continue to have throttle sensitivity issues. So difficult to achieve a smooth acceleration in the earlier gears. Any suggestions?
Thanks for sharing. Very informative video. Artie 👍
Thanks for watching Artie. I plan doing videos like this one on the whole current lineup and all new modes going forwrd. Hope all is well.
@@BCautosolutions sounds great. It’s nice to know what’s going on. Stay safe and well 👍
@@arthurfricchione8119 will do and likewise.
Great video. Do these issues extend to the 2019+ models?
@@pragmaticoptimist46 some do some don’t along with some new issues. For that reason I’m making a seperate video on the 19+ model years.
I just bought a 2016 Honda Pilot ex with 126k miles on it and the used car dealer was telling me to get a extended warranty and make sure it includes electrical systems and the way he said it now has me worried. They only gave me a 30 day warranty on the motor and only half on parts and labor and I have to use them for the repair. I have the car fax report and the vehicle was just service and inspection in February. It doesn't say what was serviced so I guess I should take it to my guy and have him check the transmission fluid and the whole vehicle 😢
Yeah the electrical stuff is pretty solid on those years. I’d be more worried about the trans juddering then anything. Definitely check that and change it asap!
I am now having issues with starting. I went out one morning and went to start it and it sounded like the battery was going dead. The alarm wouldn't set and it had the clicking noise and then dead. I had it jumped and drove it for a little while and went to reverse and I had the steering wheel turned as I was backing up and it bucked and made a strange sound had no power and I straightened the wheel and power was back and parked it got out and didn't touch it for 3 days. Went out on a warm dry day and it started right up and had no issues. Then next day I went to start it and it did a slow crank and started. I am so mad have car 2 months now and issues starting.
@@dreamtoreality9892 sorry to hear, sounds like you might be having battery and/or charging issues. Need to have to checked out before it leaves your stranded.
The most common issue is the 65miles transmission system pop up and the car drives normal. When you turn off car it goes away. Dealerships ripped people off telling customers they need a new transmission only to have the same problem occur when they reach speeds of 65mh.
@@CorvetteJ I barely see that issue tbh. I see on a weekly basis transmissions jerking tho from poor maintenance
Cars are unpredictable.
You never know,
when the transmission going to go!
@@CorvetteJ true
From my experience with my Mom's Pilot the rotors don't warp, the problem is that the brake pads get really hot and leaves deposits on the rotor surface, causing the pulsations and feeling like warp rotors, the Honda brand brake pads are the worst. Switching to ALL Akebono brake pads or a Semi metallic low resin brake pad will work as well
I have a 2018 Pilot Elite....when i make some turns, it feels like it wants to shut down, and just before it does it inadvertently revs up with a jolt
@@MrLovegospel check your intake tube. If it’s good I would clean your throttle body and have the values relearned with a scan tool (must do step)
2016 Touring with 105k has developed an oil leak at rear passenger side of motor looks like valve cover gasket. Is this common?
@@chrish4865 yes it can happen
That is your timing belt tensioner. If you let that go longer, you'll start to hear loud ticking which sounds like it's coming out of your engine, but it's the tensioner.
thanks for the info, so the 9 speed trans is more reliable than the 6 speed? i wldve thought it wldve been the other way around
@@dc5duben96 yes it is and so did I before they started coming through the shop
@BCautosolutions wow ok thanks for the reply
@ anytime
Surprised, no mentioned about the fakra.
Falta started in 2019 that’s why there’s no mention.
I have a 2017 Pilot AWD. I love it, but I did have the trans jutter issue. The dealer was able to fix that. And now I am experiencing the front rotor issue, I'm assuming. Steering wheel vibration when braking. 85,000 miles on it. I'll be addressing that next. Still love the Pilot, though.
Appreciate the input, seems to be treating you rather well 👏
Definitely! Keep up the good work. Appreciate your channel!
@@ryanandrews3689 thank you!
Man i was thinking about buying 2016-18 Honda pilot but seeing some off these reviews makes me nervous about buying it now. I have a cr-v now really reliable so I was the pilot would be the same. Thoughts? Is it worth buying?
I have a 2018 CRV, as well. Love it, too! I think the Pilot is still a good buy. With it's size and power I am happy with it. Really no issues at all other that trans jutter. But the flush fixed it. @@wdaycock
I'm getting ready to buy one soon. $64,000 miles. Should I worry
Use the info I gave you to see if some of those issues apply to it
hey i’m not sure if you’re still responding to messages on this post but would love your input on a problem with my 2017 Honda Pilot touring. Runs great 98% of the time but every now and then it has a problem starting after i pushed the start stop button. usually i wait a minute and press it again and it struggles then kicks on. this happens only once out of 50 times i start the car but just today it wouldn’t kick on. got it jumped and it started, took it to check the battery and they said battery was good. i always have the idle off function off cause i was having an issue with the engine trying to kick on after idle and it would turn off the car. does this sound familiar at all? trying to keep from spending thousands to figure it out. Thanks in advance!
@@andrewlichty1204 could still be a battery. If it’s more then 3 years old get it changed. Could also be the starter staring to fail.
I am driving a 2018 Pilot EX, I encountered the fuel injector issue and transmission issue. Fuel injectors and torque converters were replaced under the extended warranty.
@@shawndongbo thanks for sharing
what about the capless gas cap? I am getting an emission problem screen, no codes and no misfires. Seen others with this problem, problem goes away after refilling gas tank. Goes a month or 2 between and only when cold. 2017 Pilot EXL with 70k miles. My dealer acts like they never have any problems, mainly the shudder. They did flush once and have done it once. Easier than taking it in and not having it for a few days.
Capelas system does fail from time to time. As far as the light can be anything and needs to get a code pulled.
@@BCautosolutions no codes or misfires, dash says emission system problem. I take gas funnel and work in and out, spray WD40 and warning goes away. It has happened 3 times in the last 2 years and always clears after a fillup.
@@alweisberger7502 weird
Great video - thanks! Can you please explain the injector issue a little more? I'm picking up a used 2017 with 118K KM in a few days. I do my own work. This is my first direct-inject vehicle. Do I need to replace the injectors? Have the valves cleaned? Thanks in advance if you see this.
Honda claims the injector issue is a manufacturing defect which I find suspicious but we have seen only a handful come back post injector replacement for another set. Luckily there is a service bulletin for now that wouldn’t cost you any money. Best of luck
@@BCautosolutions Thanks for your reply
@@MrCoreyCoreyCorey 🫡
Good luck 🍀!!!
Got the eap code on mine. 2018 pilot.
@@lionsden7777 😢
@ I am new to owning a pilot I went and got the code checked they weren’t able to fix it under the warranty. The warranty is 50,000 miles or three years which ever comes sooner and mine was over three years so they didn’t want to fix it. But the code I got wasn’t a major issue. It’s not the injectors or anything.
Hey there, First off.. thank you for making this video. I am the 3rd owner for a 2016 Honda Pilot recently bought... "Transmission System problem" is on the dash board. I took it to a mechanic that did the transmission fluid flush... after a couple hours of driving the message is still up on the dash board. Would it be safe to say that the prpblem could be the code "P177A" if so, what is that and would it be a costly fix? Thank you in advance for your time and for responding.
what are you views on disactivating the VCM?
We haven’t had an issues on these engines. Leave it alone. Either way is fine
Should mention the "black death" a/c nightmare.
@@cubz711 ✅
Hello thank you for the info my 2016 has a error code u 3000 multipurpose camera malfuntion LKas warning, cruise control warning, frontal mitagation assit warning. Is the camera covered under any extra warrenty because its part of the safty system? Any info would help thanks.
Hey, thanks for watching. As far as the warranty for something like that I believe it’s only 3 years 36k for the radar/camera.
Hi. Can you give me a hint? A message came up on the dashboard "emission System problem" I read errors p2096 and p2270 honda pilot 2017. Internet says similar problem although there is no extraneous sound. Can you tell me what could be the most common? How much it is estimated at least approximately! And I don't understand everything, I use a translator. Thank you.
@@Celik9313 may just be a faulty o2 sensor. Some diagnostics would need to be performed to confirm.
@@BCautosolutions Thanks, I'll check it out.
Looking at buying a used 2017 Touring. Is there a new revision on the fuel injectors that fixes the issue or would I constantly have to replace them every x miles?
Yes there is
Thank you !!!
Anytime! 👍🏻
So how do we fix the injector issue you mentioned taking it to the dealer. But what if you are out of warranty? Maybe i missunderstood is there any way to fix it myself?
Yes, if you purchase injectors over the counter, you will be provided with the updated parts
@@BCautosolutions thanks soo much for replying! 😅 And sounds like i will be keeping her, Its too late now anyways after an impulse buy
@@dannym586 lol, we are still human at the end of the day
We have a 2017 pilot ex-l….. just had to get the fuel injectors replaced and previously had the push button start replaced. Ours has about 55k miles on it. My question is should we look to trade it in soon when our extended warranty runs out or keep it? We have not been regularly changing transmission fluid (have appointment to do that for the first time next week). I don’t want to have to get a new transmission right after the warranty runs out. Thanks for input!!
So at 55k if you start with the aggressive transmission services you should still be ok. With interest rates through the roof and climbing I think holding onto it and meticulous maintenance going forward would be my personal game plan.
Thanks for the input! You are spot on with the issues!
@@joshuagarneau9664 thank you! 🙏🏻
I currently own 2016 honda pilot EX which has issues with fuel injection and push button. It has 143K miles. I will sale it soon.
What are your going to replace it with?
@@BCautosolutions toyota 4runner sr5 4wd
@@johnnguyen6859 Nice, best of luck with it
@@BCautosolutions thank you.
I own two pilots 2016 and 17 and I don’t recommend you even thinking about buying one, they have tons of issues
So what are you issues?
Thanks for taking the time to put a video like this together. I have a 2016 pilot with the 6 sp and 86k; I just recently noticed the shudder if I am cruising with light to no throttle, and then when I gently reengage the throttle the shudder happens. Since it's past the 80k am I out of luck to have the dealer do anything? Also, if I change the trans fluid every 15k do you think the trans will last?
Hey, so even tho your above the 80k it won’t hurt to see if they will still cover it. I’d not do a 3x trans flush and then every 15k do a transmission service going forward. The trans should be ok but obviously there’s no guarantee in that.
@Hondamobilemechanic thanks for the advice. After watching your other pilot videos, I believe I miss spoke in regards to the Judder. If cruising at almost any mph, it feels like the torque converter lags to fully re-engage when letting off on the gas pedal for a few seconds, and the n reapplying throttle input. Any ideas? Some in the forums blamed poor converter lock up on the vcm.
@@RyanKrantz could be, would have to see some data before I could give a reasonable diagnosis unfortunately. Definitely something you want to have your local dealer look up.
Sam your Jack of trade. God bless you.
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Awesome video!
My wife 2016 pilot 6spd trans just started that issue a few months ago. Goin to have the fluid changed and see what happens.
Question….is it because the fluid breaks down that causes the problems?
Thank you and keep the videos coming!
Yes, the trans fluid takes a beating and breaks down way too prematurely imo. Consistent transmission services are key here. Thanks for watching
@@BCautosolutions
Thanks again HMM...
Well there is another issue she has now..when you start to drive from a stop the shifts from first to second gear has a hard "clunk" shift or disengage depending on speed under 25 mph. It only happened twice over the few weeks. After turning it off and restarting it it does not do it. No codes. Maybe a solenoid?
Thank you
@@Tjn6898 sounds like a pressure switch may have some debri in it. I have a count at work of which ones I’ve replaced more often. You can either wait until a code pops up or go ahead and change both. They are fairly affordable and easy to replaceZ
Change transmission fluid 3 times every 30k miles…
My wife has a 2016 pilot, when cold outside when you push button to open rear hatch it will open all the way up and will close as soon as it get open ! It will put pressure on you but will stop . Not sure what it would do with a child using it !!!
You can try and perform a 15 minute battery reset, if that doesn’t work, take it to your local dealer to have them diagnose it properly.
Thanks for sharing your knowledge and insights. I am looking to purchase as used (new to me) Pilot and have been reading mixed messages about the transmission. Some say get the 6speed some say get the 9speed. Which one would you recommend? I know the the only comes in the Touring and up models and the 6speed on the EX-L and below trims. Looking at 2017 and up model years possibly till 2019 only - or as budget permits. Thanks!
Hey thanks for watching. So people saying don’t get the 9 speed don’t have any idea what they or saying or experience. We have had nearly zero issues with the 9 speed. The 6 speed is problematic but if you stay on top of the transmission services (I highly recommend every 15k a drain and fill) then it can get a way less problematic trans as well just like the 9 speed. Buying a used one can be risky because chances are proper maintence wasn’t done on the 6 speed and could be too little too late, for that reason I say go with the 9 speed if the budget allows to get, which like you said comes on a higher trim pilot.
@@BCautosolutions Thank you so much for replying back to me. I really appreciate your time and effort. And thank you for the advice as well on which transmission to get. As mentioned, I am getting mixed reviews on both transmissions, both have been said to be problematic with the shudders and rough shifts and loss of power. But now I am confident in getting the 9Spd over the 6Spd thanks to you. I’m also a subscriber to your channel now as well. Looking forward to learning more about Hondas. Cheers!
@@arwencale thank you, congrats on your new (to you) purchase and best of luck to it!
I apologize for butting in but I wouldn’t recommend a Honda Pilot. I have a 2017 and it’s not a good car. I bought is used with very low mileage but it’s already becoming an issue.
This is my 2nd Honda and both have had issues within 3 to 5 years of manufacturing.
If I could go back in time I would get a Toyota. Toyota has never given me (my son or husband being the main mechanics for usual things) issues until they got beyond 10 years old or older. That’s as long as you do regular maintenance but that goes for most cars. I’ve just experienced that Honda isn’t as reliable as Toyota since I don’t have a lot of money to spend of mechanics that do things that my son or husband couldn’t do for whatever reasons.
Wish you the best!
@@susana5052 thanks for your input, I can assure you Toyota has their own share of issues… I’m actually getting closer and closer to making a video about all the issues they are having. Our sister Toyota store is literally across the street.
Just checking things out as I am also planning on getting into a used (new 4 me) 2018 touring, and I need some assurance that it is a good decision. I am curious, though, just to make sure the 9spd is NOT CVT, correct? And how often would you recommend servicing on the 9 spd?
Correct the 9 speed is not cvt. Change the fluid every 30k.
I have a TPMS light on how I can fix the problem
Can be as easy as a sensor or as expensive as an abs modulator. Need a code to point you in any sort of direction.
I enjoyed the video. I just bought a 2017 EX-L AWD 6spd and I noticed the tachometer fluctuating. The vehicle has 74,000 miles and I did get an extended warranty from the dealer. Should I request a trans fluid change? Or just mention the issue and see what they will do.
Thanks in advance for any help.
-Jake
Mention the issue. Tell them you know it’s a “thing” with these cars. I have a few videos on this matter. Tell them to check for pcm updates and perform if needed as well as the 3x trans drain/fill.
@@BCautosolutions Will do! Thanks again for the info! 😎
@@sparkiejake1 👍🏻👍🏻
I am about to buy a used 2016 EX-L with 80k miles from car max. Would you recommended buying with warranty to cover any unwanted issues? Or would issues ve to many to not be worth it? What is yoir take on it? Car is well maintained and all changes/Maitanance was done in dealership on time unitl now. 1 owner.
If it was well maintained you should be ok, the car besides what I’ve mentioned is relatively solid. Depending on the price of the warranty and what is covers (if relatively thorough) still isn’t a bad idea in the event of an out of the normal failure.
Hi. I am about to go into the same purchase. Did you buy it? If yes, how is it holding up?? Thanks!
@@TheCaioKyleBraga Hi,
Car is at 130K miles bought it at 116K. The first thing I did was do a complete Maitanance check and upgrade. I would recommend getting all the needed Maitanance such as timing belt, spat plugs, brakes, etc. After that car should be good.
2018 Pilot: Six speed Transmission failed at 58,500 miles; hard shifting and P0776 code. Honda replaced at no charge but said there was no warranty on the remanufactured transmission.
It happens unfortunately
You have to change trans fluid and external filter at least every 40000 miles or the tiny little filter will clog up and you'll have your flutter or jiggly gears
Hi, I'm experiencing the torque converter/transmission issues you have explained at @ 2:00 , do you have more info on the warranty extension for 8 year/80k I haven't heard of this do I need to work with American Honda to extend the powertrain warranty? My vehicle is at a dealer with a TC replacement at the moment after P0741 code. TC replacement made it worse and waiting for American Honda to grant a new transmission under powertrain warranty.
I’ll review the bulletin tomorrow see if there’s any updates.
I'm experiencing the same problem on a 2019 6 speed... I'm at 60k+ and was told my warranty was over.. so my question is the same.. How do I find the info on the warranty extension you mentioned I'm in California..don't know if that makes a difference. Thanks in advance
@@chrisarr7615 so it only applies to 16-17 pilots 80k or 8 years whatever comes first.
Thanks for sharing.. bought a 2019 with the 9 speed. Get the weird pull back on the transmission. Brother had a rdx type s with same issue. Is that a common issue?
Hey, thanks for watching. The 9 speed trans on the pilot has been rock solid, not really sure what you mean by pullback, but I’ve had no issues with them on any Honda. The rdx a spec (no Type s version of that car) uses a Honda 10at which also has been pretty solid on various applications.
Anyone else having the transmission pressurize the dipstick tube and blow the dipstick out while driving?
@@texastri-hullracer8749 that’s pretty unusual
@@BCautosolutions well poo.
Hi Today the engine light came on. Autozone told me that I have code P430. Can yo tell me what’s the problem please!
Sorry 2017 honda pilot elite.
@@JesusGonzalez-kj4jd thats a primary bank 2 cat code that sometimes can be thrown by faulty injectors. A af test has to be ran with a scan tool to see if any of the injectors fail. It’s going to end up being injectors and/or catalytic convertor.
Thank you for your help!
@@JesusGonzalez-kj4jd anytime
Hi again question do you know if this problem has a recall? Injectors.
I have a Honda pilot 2016 of all that I have said 9 high -speed transmission, I have never failed, but sometimes the sound comes from it as if elephants are shouting, it was always, I don’t know if there is such a sound for other owners. The ignition button also junk, but I took it off and processed WD40 and the problem was solved. The front brakes are the same as in the video, if they are warmed up and you drove into a deep puddle, you will have to go to grind them. This is the problem I have now: at the intersections when the engine stalls, it will no longer start, so I have to turn off the car and turn it on again. Maybe someone knows how to solve this problem.
My ‘18 Touring sometimes hesitates then surges when accelerating from a stop. I’ll press the gas, RPM barely moves for 2-3 seconds, them vroom 3000 RPM. It happens with eco mode both on and off. I’m up to date on all scheduled maintenance. I did notice it started when I had one new tire 🛞 installed due to a flat, so I suspect it’s 4wd/transfer case related, but not sure. Problem persisted after changing all 4 tires out. Any fixes?
Is it when the engine/trans/ambient temps are cold?
@@BCautosolutions Yes mostly when cold like leaving my driveway in the morning (I always remotely warm up the engine), but it also occurs sporadically during normal driving when accelerating from a stop sign when engine/transmission are warm. What should I do?
@@kazj1728 if it’s when it’s cold and first drive it could be normal to an extent, randomly throughout the day your going to be looking at an internal issue most likely.
@@BCautosolutions Thanks. It’s probably mostly due to cold running, but I suspect if it’s internal then it’s the 4wd system doing something as the engine doesn’t even respond to throttle input for that brief 1-2 second period. The car threw a P0304 misfire code which prompted the dealer to change out the fuel injectors and gaskets a while back (free under a recall or something), so I hopeful it was fuel system related, but no, it kept happening. It might be placebo effect, but I feel like it’s less prevalent after I’ve had the oil/transmission/diff/transfer fluid changed, and more pronounced when these fluids are old. Any idea of codes I should be looking for?
Is it easy to access and clean the throttle body?
My 2016 couple time turn all the dash board light and in 2 Days is normal again any body has that issue?
Could be anyrhing, most likely injectors tho. Have it diagnosed
65k 2016 pilot ex ENTIRE AC needs replacement. The black death. Bought brand new
Ugh. That’s unfortunate, sorry to hear.
Is the 2016 9 speed any good ?
Yes. Much better then the 6 speed made by Honda.
Thankyou I bought on with 9 speed yesterday
@@djgblaze1of1awesome, congrats
@@BCautosolutions Thankyou love the content
@@djgblaze1of1 thanks 🙏🏻
Let’s add. A/C compressor going out at about 50k miles. Both mine and my neighbors pilot went out at about 50k miles.
There’s been a few of them for sure, thanks for you input.
Hey man, would you still recommend being a tech nowadays? Im pushing B level skills with honda/acura and idk if its me or or the industry but ive been struggling to make money. Ive had my 70 hr weeks but it wasnt easy and theyre rare. A lot of diagnosing needed with these newer cars that dont pay anything like how do you make ends meet with that???
Btw thanks for giving us the heads up on what to look out of with these cars
Hey man, so it’s definitely getting harder and harder to make hours, with all the added diag, bulletins, etc. if you have an opertunity to switch careers and make same/more money I would take that for sure.
Start working on semi trucks. Lots of money in that industry
Alarm going off randomly!?
Yes, that’s a thing as well. That typically the keyless access unit or the hood switch. More times then not the keyless access unit.
My God I just replaced both the cat converters at 124k
What wad the codes?
@Hondamobilemechanic honestly I don't remember. I didn't even know honda has 3 supposedly. I just did whatever the shop said. My car was having problems when I pushed the gas it would take forever to pick up speed.
@@Foltynsplay could have been clogged but not common. Hopefully they did the right thing here . Thanks for sharing.
QUESTION : So the other day my honda accord would make a clicking noise(or should I say it sounded like it was struggling to start) when I would turn the key to start the car🥴🥴. AAA came out and hooked up their tester and found "nothing wrong"...he even took the battery out to "reset" it.. car started after that(this was monday)..fast forward to TODAY and same noise happening again,only this time it hasn't not came on,just keep hearing a clicking noise(I suspect it was the starter but he saysss nothing is wrong lol),should I be concerned?
For sure. Sounds like a starter to me. I would take it to an actual mechanic and leave triple a to towing cars lol
@@BCautosolutions LOL just now seeing your comment! Yeah I took it to two AAA approved shops close to my house and both said it could possibly be that or something "deeper"🤨🤨...I just feel like my baby hasn't been picking up fast like she used too
Radio is a big issue.
How so?
why Honda always has trashy transmissions, and i mean since the mid 2000s, Honda used to neck and neck with Toyota in terms of quality.
They have come a long way since 06-08. Really the only problematic ones are the 6at and some cvts. No where as bad as early 90s - mid 00s. Back then we were doing 3-4 trans a day! Now we do maybe 5 a month. Huge difference and improvement.
@@BCautosolutions im considering buying an SUV either Honda pilot or Acura MDX, just doing little research, i wish u would do video about "the best reliable Model years to buy " for either Honda pilot or Acura MDX , that would be an awesome video series.
@@Omar-on804 ok yeah, i can do something like that.
front caliper slides suck.
@@johnanderson8705 yup
Good video except you Spears so fast.
I speak fast? Yeah I’ve been told that lol. Thanks for watching, there’s always room for improvement. I appreciate the constructive criticism. 👍🏻
go to settings, search playback speed,dial it down to 0.5
Basically, I'm never buying Honda again. Honda use to be dependable. What's the point if a honda isn't dependable anymore - other options out there.
And all those other options have issues as well 🤷🏼♂️
Hello I am a Uber driver. I’ve had this car since 2016 the new I hold 202,000miles. Please take it from a person with experience not a mechanic every problem he has said I have had the fuel injector problems first came to me when I had 30,000 miles on the dealership and the corporation did not want to take responsibility. Oh my God screwed $2000 to fix something that’s not my fault, second of all the transmission the same thing he said happened to me I have never seen a transmission like this car. I have to change the oil every oil change roughly between 5 to 7000 miles ridiculous I’ve had the same problem with the pushbutton start. Thank God I fixed it myself. The store has been nothing but a big royal pain in the ass. I wish I never purchased it. I also was the person that told me the store is on the lowest part of hell
So first off I want to apologize for their incompetence. The injectors have a warranty extension and if you have paper work stating you paid it I would 💯 try and get reimbursed. The start/stop switch also has a warranty extension, although that’s a fairly cheap repair and not as critical to peruse imo. The biggest deal is the trans! Yes with Uber/Lyft we have to change the fluid at a very ridiculous and unreasonable rate as you have stated. Best of luck going forward 👍🏻
I have the receipt for fixing the fuel injectors I fixed them the second year I got this car which was a 2017 which I took her to the Honda dealership and they replaced it where do you want me to upload or email you the receipt from Honda I have it
@@ziad9649 yes that’s about when we started changing them. I would just contact corporate American Honda and see what they can say. I can’t get involved in that. I’m not sure what they will do, it’s worth a shot tho for sure. Good luck with it 👍🏻