So yes, it was named after him. I don't really get the joke here. Is it that someone naming something after their name is stupid, or mocking people who don't think it happens?
@@morningwoody4514 True. But there are a ton of surnames that have "land in it". Maybe Arkhan just decided to shorten it. Still stupid, but all of 40K's names are stupid. Angron, Corvus Corax, Ferrus Manus, Ultramarines etc etc.
@@leonardhollsten8145 The joke is that the "land" in the name "land speeder" is clearly descriptive. It's really silly for GW to say it's actually named after somebody called "land". Not because "land" is a silly name, but because it would be an absurd coincidence. It would be like if somebody said "steak knives are actually named after their inventor, Johnnathan Steak."
The Emperor's name is actually Imanuel Periumman and that's why it's called The ImPerium. No even better. His name is just called Man, hence why it is the Imperium of Man.
"Adam" literally means "human" in ancient Hebrew, the Emperor being called "man" is his native language is not that far off especially with 40k being 40k
@@wilmagregg3131 Turkey didn't exist at the time of his birth, so he couldn't possibly have been Turkish. Plus the population of the area known in modern times as Turkey in that Era was not genetically identical to modern times, meaning that Big E has as much in common with modern turks as I do with Sub-Saharan Africans.
The best part is Arkhan Land got super upset at it as well, in one of the Horus Heresy books (particularly good on the audio version) I distinctly recall an angrily shouted phrase along the lines of “they called it LAND’S RAIDER!?!?”
@@ambustio9807 Canon at this point doesn't matter to me, if it existed at any point then it's fair game. The original Rogue Trader and the example characters contained within are no exception. Besides, just because it isn't canon doesn't mean you can't laugh at it for being at one point very much canon.
I want the next retcon to be that Arkhan's original last name wasn't Land. He changed it after a teenage vision quest where he just felt really in tune with the earth.
I always thought “Astartes” was the High Gothic term for Space Marine. But one of The Emperor’s lead scientists on the project was named Amar Astarte (no joke).
That likely is a silly retcon but that one is not really too terrible. Something being named after someone is not the problem. It's when it's named after someone that just happens to have the name relating to what he invented. What we hear in the video is dumb because the name "land raider" already made sense without us knowing the dude who made it happen to have land is his name. Another example would be the joke chat mentioned about the emperor's name being Jimmy space and making the space marines. Space was not invented by Jimmy it just happens to be his last name and it's a dumb coincidence that just is not necessary for the overall story.
Magos Bane, Magos Blade, Magos Fell, Magos Hammer, Magos Hell, Magos Doom, Magos Sword, Magos Shadow, Magos Storm, and Magos Lord each worked in pairs on the various official configurations, which are properly hyphenated names based on the head researchers, so Bane-Blade, Shadow-Sword, Storm-Hammer, Bane-Hammer, etc.
Lasguns are in fact named after Johnny Las, of the proud Las family, they earned their name after designing a predecessor technology, the laser gun. Which were of course named after Millicent Laser, whose family centuries earlier had been professional shoe lacers.
It did give us a really funny scene in *The Great Work* were Arkhan is screaming at people because the name is supposed to be "Land's Speeder", not "Land Speeder", but everybody ignores it.
That one's really obvious though. And it's not on the same level as Land Raider or Land Speeder being named after a guy named Land. It's like if they suddenly decided "Oh yeah, the Hellhound isn't just named after something from mythology, no, it's actually named after Helmand Hound, who streamlined the conversion process of Chimaeras into Hellhounds."
@@jamesmunro8672 but astartes doesnt really mean anything bu itself o think. Its not linke mr land inventor of the land raiders its a woman named astarte amd the emperor gave the space marines that name ķind of as a pun because astarte was against the use that big E had for the space marines so giving them her literal name is ironic but ot makes sense
Don't forget the Gatling gun, invented by dr Gatling, or the Mauser gun, the Tupolev planes, the sikorsky helicopters... I mean it would be funnier if there were not a ton of examples of that stuff happening today
@@rednemo9634 I mean nowadays things are less likely invented by an individual and more often a company who just slap a product name on it though there is always the chance for an exception to that
@@jonathany1240 I am not saying the opposit, it just sounds strange to me that they react like that to something that happens even today. Also, mqny of these big companies have the name of the founders, like Ford, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-benz, and that is just the cars
Fun fact, land is more famous in 40k Imperium for discovering the crawler stc (the land crawler) a literal tractor, than any of the combat vehicles he found. Mini fact the tech priests of mars paid him in planets for stc patterns.
@@JackPorter - At this point the Imperium couldn't find a traitor if they had a sign on their back saying "I sold my soul to Chaos for tree fiddy; kick me please"
I believe this must be a reference to Polaroid cameras. They were called Polaroid Land Cameras, which most people assumed meant they were designed to be used portably, outdoors or something. In fact they were named after Edwin Land, the inventor of the Polaroid process. The parallel is so close, I think it must be an intentional joke, but applied after the LR and Speeder were named
Ah, so the Imperium in all their wisdom forgot the apsotrophe? Perhaps they didn't want T'Erminator armour being associated with the Tau. I'm beginning to understand why the Thousand Sons turned to Tzeentch. This lack of acknowledgement for basic knowledge and logic is enough to make anyone insane 😂 (Yes, this is a joke)
Fun fact: Warhammer 40k is actually named after Jeremy 40k. Well known amongst Games Workshop workers for his love of historical weapons, and utter disdain for the warhammer. Him and Jonathan Warhammer surprisingly developed a close friendship, and Jeremy would even take inspiration from Jonathan's previous work, Warhammer, to create his own universe set in the grim dark far future of the year 40,000
That's nothing compared to the Orks' magic belief powers that are the main reason their stuff doesn't just explode in their faces whenever they use it.
Space Marines are named after Johnathan Space. He was a big dude so he needed big armor, and he had a few friends who were big that followed along with him, so they were originally Space's Marines. I typed this before they even made the Jimmy Space joke or before I knew about it. Easy joke to make though.
Exactly, it follows the exact same logic that the Mr. Land thing does. Like the creator of humans was named Hugh, and our name should actually be spelled hugh-man.
funniest part is that Space Marines are actually called "Astartes" because the Emperor had the lead geneticist of the Astertes project assasinated by the Custodians and funny enough her name was "Astartes", shoot even the "Leeman Russ" battle tank it's STC was found by space wolves and they named it as so in honor of their Primarch
Ah yes, the Tesla Coil. Named for its inventor: Nikolai Coil.
Well, you are almost on the right track
So yes, it was named after him. I don't really get the joke here. Is it that someone naming something after their name is stupid, or mocking people who don't think it happens?
@@leonardhollsten8145 It’s about how someone having the name “Land” is fucking stupid.
@@morningwoody4514 True. But there are a ton of surnames that have "land in it". Maybe Arkhan just decided to shorten it.
Still stupid, but all of 40K's names are stupid. Angron, Corvus Corax, Ferrus Manus, Ultramarines etc etc.
@@leonardhollsten8145 The joke is that the "land" in the name "land speeder" is clearly descriptive. It's really silly for GW to say it's actually named after somebody called "land". Not because "land" is a silly name, but because it would be an absurd coincidence. It would be like if somebody said "steak knives are actually named after their inventor, Johnnathan Steak."
I love how this has actually managed to become an in-joke in the Warhammer fandom
I don't understand why it's such a big deal, this fandom is really dumb.
Speeders don't even go on land.
@@Prushinthespirit Because it’s a stupid retcon that served no purpose.
@@Prushinthespirit I mean... they speed OVER land
@@Prushinthespirit If you don't understand the joke, chances are better that it's you who's dumb ;)
@@GhostRavenFIN then tell me when there's an actual joke instead of useless complaints from a braindead community
His real name is “Thunder Space” because he created the thunder warriors too.
he's still Jimmy Space, but he's just got a bunch of middle names
@@shadowreaperjb Jimmy 'Thunder' Space
Space Thundercock
Fun fact: the women who helped make them was called Amar Astarte...
@@shadowreaperjb 10 000 of them to be specfic
Imagine if he'd discovered a plane
He almost did, right? The LAND speeder.
Johnny Las is 100% my head-canon now haha.
You mean LAND plane? Or SPACE plane :D
Now I'm just imagine every single aeroplane in the world being called a "land aeroplane" 😂😂
Well if you've ever been at the airport and wanted to get on the wrong plane? NO! You wanted a wright plane
Is Arkhan Land is still even alive though?
The Emperor's name is actually Imanuel Periumman and that's why it's called The ImPerium.
No even better. His name is just called Man, hence why it is the Imperium of Man.
As a fellow person with an Emperor profile icon. I can confirm this.
he was born turkish if that helps in coming up with funny names
"Adam" literally means "human" in ancient Hebrew, the Emperor being called "man" is his native language is not that far off especially with 40k being 40k
So he's Emperor Space Man.
@@wilmagregg3131 Turkey didn't exist at the time of his birth, so he couldn't possibly have been Turkish. Plus the population of the area known in modern times as Turkey in that Era was not genetically identical to modern times, meaning that Big E has as much in common with modern turks as I do with Sub-Saharan Africans.
The best part is Arkhan Land got super upset at it as well, in one of the Horus Heresy books (particularly good on the audio version) I distinctly recall an angrily shouted phrase along the lines of “they called it LAND’S RAIDER!?!?”
In the Cawl book, he mentions how Arkhan never liked having the vehicles named after him and would prefer being known for his other achievements
@@spacemarinesruleall "I thought I would be remembered for my poetry or my one-man play"
I think it’s master of mankind
As grimdark as 40k tries to be, stuff like this always makes it fun to laugh at.
There's also Inquisitor Obiwan Sherlock Clousseau, the best inquisitor out there
As grim dark as 40K tries to be they'll never be there as long as the orcs stay the same they've barely changed since the 80s and that's a good thing
@@unnoticed4571 he is from rouge trader and not cannon for 30 years or so
@@ambustio9807
Canon at this point doesn't matter to me, if it existed at any point then it's fair game.
The original Rogue Trader and the example characters contained within are no exception. Besides, just because it isn't canon doesn't mean you can't laugh at it for being at one point very much canon.
@@unnoticed4571 there is cannon to 40k Why are you saying it dose not exist
I want the next retcon to be that Arkhan's original last name wasn't Land. He changed it after a teenage vision quest where he just felt really in tune with the earth.
What is his original last name? Black.
His original last name was Asylum.
Or that the original Arkhan Lannd actually died as a child, and his servant took up his name in grief.
I always thought “Astartes” was the High Gothic term for Space Marine. But one of The Emperor’s lead scientists on the project was named Amar Astarte (no joke).
for fuck sake, i just thought it was a roman military reference.
@@ianduarte1992 Probably was, until a few years ago.
That likely is a silly retcon but that one is not really too terrible. Something being named after someone is not the problem. It's when it's named after someone that just happens to have the name relating to what he invented. What we hear in the video is dumb because the name "land raider" already made sense without us knowing the dude who made it happen to have land is his name. Another example would be the joke chat mentioned about the emperor's name being Jimmy space and making the space marines. Space was not invented by Jimmy it just happens to be his last name and it's a dumb coincidence that just is not necessary for the overall story.
Although before becoming a drummer her name was Amar Astarkey.
Emperor Jimmy Space
It brings me great joy that r/Grimdank has accepted this as meme canon.
Wait, are meme canons canon again?
@@64bitcrafts they had to rise up after emperor with a speech device
But have you heard about why the setting is called Warhammer 40k? The progenitor of all the gods in 40k was named Andre 40k Warhammer.
Fortike warhammet
Remember.
Remember Joan of Battle, and her Sisters.
Can’t forget about Dave Transuranic Arquebus he really revolutionised long ranged weaponry for the mechanicum
Magos Dave Uranic was the one who developed Uranic's Arquebus, another Magos then further developed the idea and the Transuranic Arquebus was born.
Don’t forget Noah Neutron, inventor of the Neutron laser. Catherine Castellan, inventor of the Castellan robots.
Alex Inquisitor, Founder of the inquisition.
This is the best one
Bubbah Baneblade
Inventor of the
B A N E B L A D E
A master of his craft
Magos Bane, Magos Blade, Magos Fell, Magos Hammer, Magos Hell, Magos Doom, Magos Sword, Magos Shadow, Magos Storm, and Magos Lord each worked in pairs on the various official configurations, which are properly hyphenated names based on the head researchers, so Bane-Blade, Shadow-Sword, Storm-Hammer, Bane-Hammer, etc.
Can just be named
Bubbah bane
Thus bane's blade
Let it rip!!!
"Banesword, baneblade, bane hammer, shadowsword, shadowhammer, and yeah, that's about all there is." - Bubbah Baneblade speaking with commissar Gump.
Lasguns are in fact named after Johnny Las, of the proud Las family, they earned their name after designing a predecessor technology, the laser gun. Which were of course named after Millicent Laser, whose family centuries earlier had been professional shoe lacers.
Didn't he invent it during his apprenticeship to Tommy Gunn?
It did give us a really funny scene in *The Great Work* were Arkhan is screaming at people because the name is supposed to be "Land's Speeder", not "Land Speeder", but everybody ignores it.
"Name's Space. Johnny Space"
*Flexes while uttering fight groans*
I refuse to believe 40K has lore at this point
They also don't have Cadia...
Nothing is True, Everything is Canonized!
It's just a huge game of telephone, there's never been 40k lore.
I can't believe they're confirming that one of the Old Ones, Rutherford Chestshire Ork, was just in cryostasis all this time.
@@justeric1107 Don't have a what?
The game named for its creator, Warwick Hammer The 40,000th
Just wait until they hear about Leman Russ tanks.
That one's really obvious though. And it's not on the same level as Land Raider or Land Speeder being named after a guy named Land. It's like if they suddenly decided "Oh yeah, the Hellhound isn't just named after something from mythology, no, it's actually named after Helmand Hound, who streamlined the conversion process of Chimaeras into Hellhounds."
@@WilliamMcSkilliam why would it be obvious that leman russ tanks were invented by Tech Priest Arquebus Tanks?
@@terratheterribl _oh, a twist!_
@@WilliamMcSkilliam AGSFDHDH HELMAN HOUND
Invented by Harry P Tank
This is one of my favorite yogscast moments, thank you for bringing this back to me
Alas, the Adeptus Astartes are indeed named after a woman called Astartes, who helped the Emperor design them.
Wasn't one of the scientists that helped the Emperor create the SM's called Astartes?
Yes, and it's very dumb
And lets not forget his successor joey primaris
Well, it's even worse when you know Latin. Ferrus Manus is literally Iron Hand. Corvus Corax is Raven... it's all so silly.
@@changer_of_ways_999 Iron Hand, Primarch of the Iron Hands, commands his sons in battle aboard his Gloriana Class Battleship, Fist of Iron.
@@jamesmunro8672 but astartes doesnt really mean anything bu itself o think. Its not linke mr land inventor of the land raiders its a woman named astarte amd the emperor gave the space marines that name ķind of as a pun because astarte was against the use that big E had for the space marines so giving them her literal name is ironic but ot makes sense
Thomas Ladder approves this
The Baneblade was discovered by Bane Blade.
Was this the origin of the Jimmy Space in-joke, or was it a hilarious coincidence?
Pretty sure this is the origin!
This is the origin.
@@Rayen015 My God. It's him. It's Jimmy Space.
everything inside this video is canon now
That moment when you discover Tom is a disciple of Nurgle.
2:58 Thank you Tom, very cool.
@@papanurgle8393 ...Dad? How have you been? I've been farming these pustules just like you taught me.
We joke about this but we have a whole branch of electro-weaponry named after the funny AC man
Don't forget the Gatling gun, invented by dr Gatling, or the Mauser gun, the Tupolev planes, the sikorsky helicopters...
I mean it would be funnier if there were not a ton of examples of that stuff happening today
@@rednemo9634 I mean nowadays things are less likely invented by an individual and more often a company who just slap a product name on it though there is always the chance for an exception to that
@@jonathany1240 I am not saying the opposit, it just sounds strange to me that they react like that to something that happens even today.
Also, mqny of these big companies have the name of the founders, like Ford, Ferrari, Lamborghini, Mercedes-benz, and that is just the cars
@@rednemo9634 it's just the fact that the retcon was totally needless as the name made perfect sense
@@inkyfingers317not arguing about that, but the reaction of the 2 guys is kinda excessive, that's all
It’s funny because the Astartes are literally named after the emperors but of stuff who was called “Astarte”
I'm sorry, the Emperor's _what_
i’m not sure why i was recommended this as i have never expressed an interest in warhammer but i am so glad i was
Join us brotha
All of 'power' weaponry has, by pure coincidence, been discovered by a Power family of techpriests.
"Why would they do that?"
Because it's funny.
My name is Gabriel Chaos, I came up with the idea to corrupt all the space marines to thee dark gods
Ahh, on this fine day, the Emperors true name was finally revealed. ^^
Joe plasma worker really hard on the plasma gun, and his 80s lifestyle
Starting a petition to officially name the God Emperor of mankind... Jimmy Space
I will always admire Sir Basil Isk for his contribution to artillery warfare.
That's ridiculous. It's like if Mars bars were invented by "Mr. Mars" or the toilet was invented by "Mr. Crapper".
Not gonna lie, "Johnny Las" sounds like a 2000ad character I would probably enjoy reading about!
Fun fact, land is more famous in 40k Imperium for discovering the crawler stc (the land crawler) a literal tractor, than any of the combat vehicles he found.
Mini fact the tech priests of mars paid him in planets for stc patterns.
There's "pay people with gold" rich, and then there's "pay people with planets" rich.
Goddamn, the Adeptus Mechanicus are super fucking rich.
Very cool of him to go back to the chat and find the specific person who said that to give credit
"Damn we could really do with a solution for all these political prisoners. You there, Hanz Final..."
I can't wait to make up a custom chapter for Alfred blood's Angels
Did you know, grammar was named after his inventor, Jhon Grammaticus?
I'm pretty sure that's heresy
perhaps a horus heresy?
@@joeyguss4931 Nah, Horus Heresy is the guy who invented the Heresy.
@@MB-sq7yn Imagine if Horus Lupercal was actually just called Horus Traitur, nobody could ever have foreseen what he was going to do!
@@JackPorter - At this point the Imperium couldn't find a traitor if they had a sign on their back saying "I sold my soul to Chaos for tree fiddy; kick me please"
I believe this must be a reference to Polaroid cameras. They were called Polaroid Land Cameras, which most people assumed meant they were designed to be used portably, outdoors or something. In fact they were named after Edwin Land, the inventor of the Polaroid process. The parallel is so close, I think it must be an intentional joke, but applied after the LR and Speeder were named
That would explain why everything in space wolf roaster has "Wolf" in its' name.
Ah a classic
Like how Terminator Armour was developed by Techpreist Erminator
Ah, so the Imperium in all their wisdom forgot the apsotrophe? Perhaps they didn't want T'Erminator armour being associated with the Tau. I'm beginning to understand why the Thousand Sons turned to Tzeentch. This lack of acknowledgement for basic knowledge and logic is enough to make anyone insane 😂
(Yes, this is a joke)
Predators were named when Chris Hansen took the inventor to the side and asked him to take a seat.
Fun fact: Warhammer 40k is actually named after Jeremy 40k.
Well known amongst Games Workshop workers for his love of historical weapons, and utter disdain for the warhammer.
Him and Jonathan Warhammer surprisingly developed a close friendship, and Jeremy would even take inspiration from Jonathan's previous work, Warhammer, to create his own universe set in the grim dark far future of the year 40,000
So glad we found this channel! :D
And of course, the Titans were invented by Tommy Titan.
Thomas Golden designed the Golden Throne as well and power swords were of course invented by MAX POWER
It's kinda like how the modern Bear trap was named after Frank ConiBear
This is even dumber than Astartes being named after Astarte.
Nathaniel Stub invented the stubber but he got fat so now we have the heavy stubber
Without John goldenthrone the emperor would have to sit on a chair or something, emperor bless that guy.
The Bolter, designed and created by Samuel Bolt
why must everything we love be destroyed?
Such is the cruelty of reality
((()))
The Titans were invented by Tammy Titan.
Jack Parrow, the inventor of the Parrow Sword
They did it again, the space marine's official name, Adeptus Astartes, came from a scientist named *Astarte* who helped the emperor creates them
Which is dumb because Astartes comes from the goddess Astarte who represented ENDLESS WAR.
@@zatoby6705 While were at it, let’s go to the Halo universe and retcon the Spartan program to be based on the work of Dr. Katherine Spartan Halsey.
Andrew Flamer, inventor of the flamer
Still waiting for the big reveal of the Emperor's real name.
"The names James... James Workshop"
IIRC there was a scientist involved in the creation of the Astartes program with the surname "Astarte", so this holds up pretty well.
Just remember, we exist in a real world where the designer of the Gallil rifle is called Balashnikov
Johnny Predator: It's pronounced PRE-DAY-TER.
Oh god. I just realized,.... the alpha legion.
You're forgetting, Arkhan had a personal tank that was named Land's Raider
Land’s Land Raider?
I like to imagine that he's just overwhelmed by the sudden heresy.
The best part is that Arkhan Land canonically ALSO HATES IT! :D
adeptus astartes because the genetist working on them was called astarte. No wait, this is actually true.
it's like saying ladders where invented by John Ladder
Francis Tech is actually an arch bishop of the mechanicus.
And a meme was born
Carl Spoon. Inventor of "The Spoon".
Imagine it is a dystopian future, oh wait
Thanks for re posting this gold
Right up there with renaming the Imperial Guard.
The Sisters of Battle, named for their founder Lady Alexa Battle
Johnny Las is the Primarch of the Astra Militarum
John fire created fire
So these are all just In-Universe Doug Dimmadomes?
To be fair, this retconn was 3 years after first rogue trader, so hardly even a retconn!
Sounds like this retcon was made by Matt Ward
That's a funny origin for the name, tbh I kinda love it :D
That's nothing compared to the Orks' magic belief powers that are the main reason their stuff doesn't just explode in their faces whenever they use it.
That and the ingenious designs of Warboss Wartrukk
Yeah, but that's cool-dumb, though, not just dumb-dumb.
Well to be fair, while Mr Space doesnt exist, Ms Astarte does.
Amar Astarte, an instrumental scientist in the creation of the Astartes
Never new that and I've been in since 2nd edition....
Space Marines are named after Johnathan Space. He was a big dude so he needed big armor, and he had a few friends who were big that followed along with him, so they were originally Space's Marines.
I typed this before they even made the Jimmy Space joke or before I knew about it. Easy joke to make though.
was he a big enough dude to save the Emperor?
Exactly, it follows the exact same logic that the Mr. Land thing does. Like the creator of humans was named Hugh, and our name should actually be spelled hugh-man.
@@Woffenhorst I thought the creator of the humans was Hugh-Jacked-Man?
Ahh yes the infamous James chain-axe
Wow so Chat almost killed the guy with laughter.
Just wait till he hears the lore around Primaris marines
funniest part is that Space Marines are actually called "Astartes" because the Emperor had the lead geneticist of the Astertes project assasinated by the Custodians and funny enough her name was "Astartes", shoot even the "Leeman Russ" battle tank it's STC was found by space wolves and they named it as so in honor of their Primarch
Arkhan Land is a great character.
Jimmy Space is a good one
And then Amar Astarte was born