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@@mbismbismb Losing a customer has no effect on a company I guess. BUT if enough people feel the way I do, they may change their mind.. That is how the system works.
@@niceguyridesexactly. I agree with you completely. I sold my RF mount body earlier this year bcuz of the ban. Canons sales are up simply bcuz they released like a zillion new cameras in just a couple years. Sigma and Tamron have released some great lenses recently (14mm 1.4, 35-150 f2-f. 28 etc). So Sony is my choice. Nikon is looking good too.
@@MHarvey-tp5km been happily using both OEM and third party lenses for years. I get the best lens regardless of brand. Canon is artificially killing the competition. Very sad.
@@niceguyrides not everyone feel the way u feel, the market share of canon is keep growing … in fact the market share of sony and nikon combined cant even match the canon’s
Sony a6700 with Sony 70-350 for wildlife, Sigma 18-50 f2.8 for everyday and street, Sigma 56mm 1.4 for portraits. you cant beat this with any system based on weight to performance ratio.
Why would someone choose the APS-C over the FF. The answer is simple because I just made that choice. I'm travelling Asia and the weight of the camera system is a big deal. I'm on the A6400 + Sony 11mm F1.8 + Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 + Sony 85mm F1.8 = 1.25kG total. It's not the weight of the body thats the issue, its the weight of those FF lenses. I sold my FF A7RIII and FF lenses in order to 'downgrade' to the lighter system. The lighter weight is just so much nicer to travel with.
@@jockey12022011once the size and weight issues are almost equalized, I fail to see what sense the crop sensor camera makes. Also, given how close they are in price now, what’s the upside to aps-c?
I mean, the Fuji XH2s, XH2, and XT5 are arguably all better APS-C cameras than any of these, but are a little more expensive. I’d think the X-S20 would make sense for sure. This channel has a pretty well-documented anti-Fuji bias. A lot of what is reported about GFX is just inaccurate and Tony seems to be hyper-critical of Fuji’s X autofocus, which I think is only somewhat fair right now. Fuji autofocus has improved a lot…
I got back in to photography about a year ago and would have considered canon. However, their choice to kill support for 3rd party lenses totally turned me off them all together, regardless of how good they might be. I picked up an a6400 instead and plan to pick up a full frame sony at some point down the line.
Tony mentions that the a6600 does not have a flip screen and he could not see himself when doing a selfie. That A6600 actually does have a screen that can be flipped to face forward. Just grab the screen from the bottom, pull it toward you and then swivel it up. It is now positioned (mostly) above the camera and facing forward.
Yes, but what if you use a top-mounted microphone (like most) or any other accessory ? That's why Tony's point is relevant : not a tilting (and unobstructed) screen.
@@gillesmatheronpro The point here is that, regardless of the mounted accessory, is there a front-facing flip screen or not? The answer is: yes, there is.
Important to remember that that choosing full frame over APS-C also means lenses are much larger, heavier and more expensive. For those who want to travel light, think less about the bodies and more about the glass.
actually an apsc equivalent lens to a full frame is about the same size and weight, if you take into consideration the aperture to get the same depth of field.
@@truthseeker6804 Yes, but I'd happily take an f-stop of low DOF away for the portability and cost reduction of lenses for travel. Not so much for portraiture, but most travel/street/journalism photography is fine with a bit more in focus. I think there's a place for APS-C and it's not a valid argument to suggest that when prices of APS-C and full frame bodies are similar that full frame is a logical "winner".
@@InstructorWest when the prices are similar, the apsc has to have many specs advantages that would overcome the full frame, then i would say the apsc is worth it for specific usecase. but if the specs difference isnt much, then the full frame is the clear winner. this a6700 is a good camera, my issue with this camera, its slightly overpriced. it shouldve been at $1100 and sony should release a better apsc camera to compete with the canon r7, a camera that can be used professionally, dual SD, more megapixel, faster fps. but this a6700 is good for video, but overheats fast tho. its got too many downsides. if you rarely do 4k120p the canon r7 and r8 are much better cameras for similar price.
Thanks for the review Tony, I think you have missed a few things, I have a A6600 and it's and all round camera for me, landscape, astro and wildlife, occasional portraits and ocourse video. It would have been good if you added in that this camera is an all-rounder and included sensor performance for low light in stills, also improvements and performance in low light, and stabilisation for video with a long lens. I have invested in Sony and third party lenses so it's an easy choice for me, I'll upgrade to the A6700 when I get a good deal.
@igordmitriev7211 that's it, it's a great lens light and sharp photos. I might also get the Sony 200 to 600 for more reach or the Tamron or Sigma equivalent
Coming from a Canon Apsc M series I won't recommend canon at all. First they left M mount camera to die. Second they're not allowing third party lenses, Third, a lot of different mounts just for one brand. I will change to sony mainly because of the versatility and the AI autofocus is definitely much better for me.
I'm struggling to part with my M50 mk I and II - both are unreal especially for street and landscape I use mine mainly for junior sports and it's awesome
This camera has way too much undeserved hype. It's a mostly unimpressive and underwhelming small step forward over the last iteration. The new fujifilm camera ploughs right through this on all front except AF. Sony seem to always get positive spin on their cams, even when they are demonstrably lacking in several key areas.
Absolutely disappointed. Waiting for 2 card slot. Nothing else matters. They could even make a6600 with secon slot. I would buy it for 1,5k. But now it's time to move for fuji or canon if sigma will make apsc f1.4 lenses for them. So disappointing...
Tony, I bought Sony 6700 in October 2023, but returned it due to overheating problem even though I was only shooting photography.. I'm surprised you never mentioned the overheating problem of this new Sony 6700?
Another advantage of the Canon is FV mode where you can control all of your main settings with just the front dial and rear wheel while you're looking through the viewfinder or on the rear screen. After using that mode I feel like I never need three dials to control my main settings.
Great review! I personally dont understand this canon poor lens selection topic. Why you dont count EF selection, what is huge and they adapt almost perfect. For birding, I dont care some tammy 150-500, while with little extra i can buy EF 300mm f2,8 is1 used... For me this big plus for canon, sony shooters only has 200-600 and next step is already new big white lenses with big prices, 2000$- 10000$ range is empty.
That was in there so they could make the Sony look like the obvious choice. They seem to shamelessly punt certain products & will use laughable points to 'prove' one is better than the other
Great video guys, thanks for the comparison. I have the 6600 and in general I'm super happy with the photography side but I'm thinking moving to the 6700 for the video improvements.
All you need for the Canon R7 is EF-RF adaptor and you can use the vast array of EF lenses , Canon and others that are available. I have done that on my R7
As a Canon 90D shooter, would love to see how well some of the Canon ef-s lenses perform on the R7 (with an adapter of course). The 90D has a lot of focus issues, attributed to the sensor size and MP. Had been wondering if the mirrorless APS-C Canon would have a similar issue, but seems not - that's good to know.
@@Berry_N I was early adopter of Canon R7. Here is list of the things I didn't like about R7. - shutter shock -AF hunting even with RF 100-400, sometimes you had to peek AF in EVF, cause I got AF confirmation it is locked on subject, but I had to pump that AF-ON button to see it is focused (this was biggest drawback of this camera), this problem is not that big of a deal if subject if filling the frame or contrast is good -32mpix sensor is just too much for normal user, details got crushed in shadows which was critical for my work (I shoot in woods) so sometimes I feel FF would be better solution but FF is not ideal for wildlife on budget and reach Still think ergonomics of R7 are great, battery life is great too. Dual card slots, button customizations, EVF, screen great. It was tough decision to part with it but I just might buy A6700, still have A6100 which has great sensor much better for shadow recovery than R7 and more details in general since 24mpix doesn't resolve lens flaws.
My only argument/debate with the R8 versus the A6700, is that sure you can get shallower depth of field with the full frame sensor and glasses are mostly made for full frames especially exotic ones, are that third party companies have really upped their games when it comes to cropped sensor mirrorless. Sigma are popular with their primes specifically made for crop, Tamron are popular with their 2.8 zooms for crop. Viltrox are now competing with their 1.2 primes. This is really important because the lenses built for the fullframe are either super expensive compared to the low end model, and the low end models(Sony e 50 1.8) are not superior to the crop versions from Sigma( 30 1.4). These third party lenses enable to give you that shallow depth of field you are looking for in the full frame, and I will also claim that because crop sensor bodies have denser pixels per inch, lense made specifically for crop sensor high density sensors would have to be super sharp to resolve the megapixels, and sensor technologies have come so far the noise levels especially at lower ISOs are basically negligible. Because of these I've resolve myself to the a6xxx ecosystem.
The R8 is Canon's current entry level full frame camera, and its hands down the best entry level full frame camera, in part because it takes the abilities of the R6 Mark 2, and puts it in a prosumer body (smaller battery, 1 card slot, et al). Sony needed to beat the R7, or at least match it... it didn't... the only strength Sony clearly has is lens selection...
I don’t remember you guys talking about the main feature which is the 4K 120 frames per second. People who buy an apc camera wants value and portability. Pro will get a full frame camera already at this price. APC person want to be able to carry this camera around without a huge lens. Who wants to spend over $1000 on 1 lens for this price point. This is a top of the line vacation and taking your kids photos and videos.
I used to shoot Canon full frame, but after they stopped allowing third party lenses, I sold all my gear, switched to Sony, and I won’t be looking back.
"Ultimate APS-C camera review" - does that mean it's the ultimate review, or that it's reviewing the ultimate APS-C cameras? Cos surely if it's the latter you've got to be including something like the X-H2S. I understand why you'd want to compare cameras at a similar price point and the H2S is significantly more expensive, but if you're talking about the ultimate APS-C, it seems like a big omission.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube yeah realize that looking at it more closely now. The one card slot isn't a big deal for me but oh that micro hdmi port is so fragile.
The A6600 has more Custom Button options, they have removed the switch button from the 6700's back that I specifically use, and overall I had the impression of intentionally downplaying the a6600 just to promote the newer version. I have NEVER experienced ANY autofocus issues with the A6600 and have no intention of upgrading for what I can tell from the review. Yes, I'd love to have the better LCD and the USB-C and the memory slot inside vs under, but I would miss my Custom Button settings I already have on the A6600. The A6700 is a great camera obviously, but for me, it's not worth the upgrade.
Yeah, the Sony a6700 is a beast and can do almost everything a lot better than previous a6xxx cameras, but does everyone need the 6700. The answer is no. Most people will never master the a6100 and spending $1400 plus tax for the body only is IMO, a waste of $$ for most people. Most would be far better served by buying a like new Sony a6100 from KEH or MPB for $650 and spend the difference on glass like the Sigma 16mm,30mm or 85mm f/1.4, etc. Additionally if you want the latest, I would certainly look at the Canon R7 which is the same price as the Sony a6700.
I’m not that unique and would buy the APS-C camera for it’s smaller size and weight for travel when I leave my full frame setup at home. For me the large array of small lenses available for Sony E mount is a clear win. I actually own both a Canon EOS R5 and Sony A1 and for the Canon R5 I don’t have a single RF L lens that is nice and small for light travel. With Sony there are many including the full array of Sigma I-Series from 17mm to 90mm that work both on FF and APS-C. Thank you for your review.
Just another APSC camera with limited improvement. I sort of expect a bit more from Sony on this model like faster frame rate more than just 1 more frame per sec. Seriously my old A7R4 can also shoot in APSC mode with 26mp.
@TonyAndChelsea : or A Photography Enthusiast and New Camera Buyer point of view detailed comparison between Fuji XS20 and Sony 6700 or Canon R7 would be appreciable.
I have the R7 and am debating between the R6 MKII or the R8 for the full frame upgrade. As for RF glass, I love the RF 18-150 even though it is no0t an L glass lens. I also love the RF 100-400, even though it is not an APS-C lens. The RF600 F11 works very good if the lighting is decent. Plus I have a bunch of EF glass including the EF 300 F2.8 (v1) lens.
Looks like Canon has big advantages nowadays in the autofocus system. I would def. go with Canon if I would not have had any cameras yet. Size difference isnt that big.
I really like Chelsea's points. She almost always takes a very practical view that the average hobbyist or enthusiast can appreciate. She also weighs budget more than Tony even if she's used to an R5, A1, or Nikon Z9. Tony's taste and preference almost always leans to the more expensive options. Understandable since he can afford any camera and nearly any lens or camera body he chooses.
The af looks pretty impressive, the stabilization looks good, the no crop 4k 60 is a big plus, the auto framing option is pretty interesting, and the screen being able to flip to the side and rotate forward is very nice. I do more photography than video, so i probably will wait on the upgrade but if you do a lot of video i think there is actually some big improvements here. (This is coming from an a6400 user)
@zegzbrutal one is 2x the price of the other, my lenses are mainly aps-c, and I prefer a smaller body and leses. Full frame isn't really an upgrade for everyone, just as medium format isn't always an upgrade to full frame.
@@jared3622 depends where you are, but a7r4 dropped a lot from MSRP, some places is even cheaper than FX30. And if you don't mind used, good~mint condition a7r4/a7r4a is a better buy over a6700. Getting it and use its crop mode only is no loss. The much better EVF, control layout and dual SD slots are worth it.
I have the full frame Sony A7R IV and I'm seriously considering buying g the A6700 as a second body. Reasons: 1- I can use my existing quality full frame glass, unlike Nikon or Canon. 2- The smaller body is ideal for Street Photography and Travel. I do a lot of event photography, so having these two cameras with me and the A6700 sporting a 16-35mm lens (full frame equivalent of 24-50mm) will be an ideal set up.
You can use Nikon FX glass on a DX body. The 24-70F4S is great on the Z50/Zfc/Z30. Not only that but with the ETZ21 you can mount ANY Sony lens to the Z-mount. I've used the 15mmf1.4G on my Z50 too. I'm getting an a6700 for my f2.8 Tamron zooms. Nikon's Expeed7/8 will narrow the gap. HUGE shout out to Sony for how much better the color looks compared to the others in this video!
I’ve really enjoyed my a6600 for hiking, travel (International & motorcycle) and landscape photography. Having a light weight kit and compact kit is important to me. After using the a6000, the a6600 was such an improvement. I appreciate the review of many of the improvements to a6700. But am wondering about the weight, so I will look that up as it is a big advantage for what I do. Thanks for the review!!
sony 6700 lost two important modes for travel photo: HDR photo and MFNR (Multi Frame Noise Reduction). Also a6600 better at low light condition than a6700. So a6600 is better for photo and amateur video.
If someone is going to shoot with a camera the size of the Canon, then you might as well just shoot full frame. The whole point of APS-C is to have a smaller camera for traveling.
The only reason I carry a Sony cropped sensor camera is for travel and portability. I prefer the Full Frame factor for serious photography and actual gigs. Travel and second body uses is where the far more compact rangefinder style Sony blows Canon away. No mention here of how the Sony fits in pockets and waist packs.
I own R7 and A6600 and both are very good cameras. I would say IMO the R7 is better than A6600. The R7 has its issues, however for the price it is the best Eye AF technology. I can not afford to drop £2,500 on R6ii, or £4,000 on R5. I purchased my A6600 before there was announcement forbthe R7, and O was hokding out for the A6700 which was a rumour on Alpha rumours, and we know how accurate thatvweb site is ! In i am happy enough with A6600 and if i could get some GM glass it would be greatittle set up. As for R7, well i am a canon man and have lot of EF L glass, hence why i purchased the R7 even with its issues. Let see if there is R7 firmware or R7ii !
Some errors here and there: first of all you miscounted the dials. The α6600 did already have 2 dials not 1 (and no I am not counting the mode dial) for exposure. The α6700 now has three, not 2. Somehow the rear dial is always forgotten, even though such a dial was used many years in highest end cameras like 1DX and the like for exposure. The α6600 screen is in fact 180° tiltable so that you can see yourself. You never have less options on APS-C than an FF with the same mount. Must be a rush mistake you made ;) Oh and a 50 F1.2 is definitely not an "overkill" for these cameras :)... It might be an overkill for some situations of course.
LOL, many reviewers don't know how to use the a6600, it has 2 dials, and ISO is one click. It is as easy as a Fuji x-t model.. those who complain about dials are just too dumb to learn to use it properly
I've never been a fan of your video style but this video has turned me around. I really enjoyed your real world approach and obvious shared love of the art. I'm a convert. Maybe i never paid enough attention in the past but i will in future.
Atmospheric effect of course will ruin any photos taken by any gears. The mp difference doesn't matter. But you should see the difference between 32 mp and 26 mp when subject is taken up close without the heat simmer.
My a6700 should arrive Aug 15. Can't wait. It is mostly for the ai auto focus that I wanted to upgrade. That should cut out missed focus most of the time. Second for me is better low light performance due to the BSI. I will appreciate the new adjustment wheel in front of the shutter button. For me the "fully articulating" LCD screen is a downgrade. I only ever use the tilt feature and that has been impacted by the new design. I can understand vloggers who want to see the screen facing forward. I just don't do that. Fortunately this is overall a low use feature for me. I'll live with it. I have a Panasonic bridge FZ1000 with the fully articulating screen so I'm not new to the game. I sold my 6400. The 6600 now becomes the back-up camera.
Dear Fuji .. Please resume sending products to them so that they can compare at least. Now that you solved the battery issue which I believe started with the X-H1 and after that you stopped sending new products to them, you can repair the burnt down bridge that you had between you and Northrup family. --- Thank you.
I accidentally destroyed my t7i Canon and I've been waiting for the new Sony to come out to replace it. I'm a hobbyist photographer. I do some macro photography,some bird/wildlife photography, some landscapes, some flowers, some videos and I'm not independently wealthy. Does anybody have suggestions on what I should buy? 1. Canon t8i - makes most use of what I have and it's cheapest option 2. Sony 6700 - lots of cool features- might be more portable than t8i but by the time you put a lens on it, it is about the same size as the t8i 3. Fujifilm ? - Is a bit cheaper but Sony seems like the main stream choice that will provide better options for the future. 4. Canon R7 - The camera I would buy except not going to buy Canon because of the no aftermarket lens nonsense. FWIW, I have bought 5 Canon cameras over the years and I'm sad that I won't be buying another one, but I need to move on.
I got the A6600 last year for the longer video recording and in 4K as my Nex 7 cuts out because of over heating before the time limit on recording. The A6700 is going to be better but at the cost of a larger camera and I already find the A6600 too heavy and bulky.
Are Sigma & Tamron E-Mount lenses better than Sigma & Tamron EF lenses? No! does the EF-R Adapter works flawlessly? Yes! It's a little frustrating to keep hearing reviewers talk about Canon RF system not having a lot of glass options and ignoring the fact that canon is the only manufacturer that has an adaptor that works 100% of the time with 100% of lenses (Obviously 100% is an exaggeration, I haven't tried them all... but I've tried 10+ lenses at this stage adapted and all worked flawlessly, Image Stabilization and Auto-Focus, additionally every adapted lenses review I've seen has been positive.) Now if the EF lens eco system was weak I would understand... the criticism... But the EF collection is phenomenal in both quality and price, with an aftermarket for used lenses that is more active than any other, and with the ability to still buy EF lenses new... This makes Canon Mirrorless cameras some of the most exciting cameras for lenses options. All from B&H Sigma Canon EF 60-600 $1,999 Sigma Sony E 60-600 $1,989 Sigma Canon EF 70-200 $1,499 Sigma Sony E 70-200 $1,471 Sigma Canon EF 85 $1,039 Sigma Sony E 85 $1,069 Canon RF + Mount (cheap) Pros: If you want old and used there is a strong market with low prices. A 300mm F2.8 Decent quality Canon for $1,300 Find a Sony that cheap... you can pick up a new 135mm f2 for $500 If you want an exciting unique lenses you have monsters like the 200mm F1.8, If money isn't an issue and you want the best quality ever a strong case can be made for RF glass being ridiculously sharp with modern classics like the 28-70 F2, a 135mm f1.8 with IS and a 1200mm F8 and 800mm f5.6 (Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think the longest Sony goes is 600MM) Is it wrong of Canon to behave so bad and cut out Sigma, Tamron and others from making lenses... Absolutely! We should raise our voices and hope canon changes there behavior. But when educating viewers its also important to tell the full story not half the narrative, Canon is wrong... But Canon also has the best glass eco system... P.S. I'm selling my Canon gear and moving to Sony to get away from overheating FX30 here I come :') Adding this incase anyone thinks I'm just some canon fan boy lol Seriously my biggest disappointment from leaving my Canon Mirrorless cameras is the lenses selection! I'm hoping the Sigma adapter for Canon to Sony works well... If so I'm keeping my glass... But from what I've seen its hit and miss...
Cropping full frame as you say is common for wildlife. That's why I chose Olympus micro 4/3 with IBS and a 1990s Nikon 300 f2.8 and f4 version giving effectively 600mm f5.6 on the 2.8. And let me say it's a real challange focusing, but on my budget with tripod its dooable (eventually!)
really enjoyed your vid. But 3 promotional segments were unnecessary. Not a good idea to advertise 3 times the same thing, kinda doesn't make me want to shop there anymore
If you google for "dpreview video stills tool" - and you chose e.g. a6300 (4K UHD) vs a6700 (4K UHD), well, the a6300 footage is superior (at least to my eyes!) The setup claims to be on same lens/aperture etc So how can the much older a6300 produce better S35 4K video footage compared to this new a6700 is a mystery to me Both APS-C bodies claim to produce 4K from oversampled 6K However the a6300 is CMOS whilst the a6700 is BSI-CMOS. Could that be the difference? As far as pixel bining goes - I m not sure what's the case for the a6300/a6700
Only three lenses and no "door" to other brands : this is how Canon treat their customers. When they claim about image quality, pro-level service, high-quality electronics, the best tools, etc. they hide their lack of consideration. Proven by this (published on Canon's Website, translated) : "Aside from the exclusive EF-M range of lenses, multi-purpose and compact, thanks to the EF-EOS M adapter you can use more then 80 EF-S and EF DSLR-developped lenses". Clever move, as they officially "recycle" their older lenses for DSLR as APS-C substitute ones. Technically, this is a meaningless attitude for the sensor to rear-lens element distance is different from a DSLR camera to a hybrid camera. And they do know it. This is an extremely different policy from brands such as Fuji and Sony (and others too). These two offer many choices to pick from, and an open lens-system with their own products competing against those of third-party manufacturers. Canon is locking when others are opening... better chose your side wisely ! You can have all the specifications you want and all the dual-pixels you want, making fun of your customers this way proves how much you actually (DO NOT) care about them. This is NOT the Canon we are used to ! Thank you for not overlooking on this crucial point, because creating images is not only about cameras... it takes a whole system around.
Nothing can really make up for the lack of a wide selection of fast RF glass. Canon makes nice bodies, but its all worthless if I just can't find the right RF lens for my purpose Tony doesn't care , because he likes to use his giant bazooka sized lenses. He's fine with Canon's DSLR glass from previous decades. To me, compact AND fast, modern lenses matter to me as much as a compact camera body.
Here's a monkey wrench to mess things up even worse: Depending on your lens and the aperture you use, you might find that you might be able to use smaller apertures without "cat's eye" bokeh. (have rounder bokeh) using full frame lenses on crop sensor cameras. This is going to be a hit - or = miss problem where you simply have to try out a bunch of lenses at various apertures and see what happens. Actually you might also find less off-axis "fall off" using full frame lenses on APS-C bodies. Unfortunately, the flip side is that you might also find that full frame lenses are a bit less sharp than crop sensor dedicated lenses. These are not things I would normally obsess over, but if you have an edge, it might count sometimes.
I am waiting for the price drop. I am a gear head on a budget. I can always achieve great results with even the A6000 but preferred the A6100 for cllor science. I use lense with OSS most of the time and don’t need ibis as most third party doesn’t work well with them on apsc bodies i.e the 17-70 greatest 2.8 on the market with VC
Not to sound mean, but from someone looking to put money down riggt now, this is a bit of a useless comparison without the X-S20 here... if it's bc you don't have a copy,vwait until you do? Leaving a camera out of the comparison that wins many categories is a bad look.
Sony all day. I will never support Canon going the route of proprietary lenses only. Couple that with the infinitely superior tracking and autofocus of the Sony chips and sensors, its a no brainer.
Being left-eyed dominant, my nose would always be square in the middle of the LCD screen on the Sony. I trust that others enjoy their dominant-eye privilege!
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you compared the sonys 1:1 in portrait shot... no difference. but were is the 1:1 canon vs 6700?????
I will never buy another Canon until they cooperate with third-party lenses. I will not support that precedent.
They dont care if u want to buy them or not… thank u
@@mbismbismb Losing a customer has no effect on a company I guess. BUT if enough people feel the way I do, they may change their mind.. That is how the system works.
@@niceguyridesexactly. I agree with you completely. I sold my RF mount body earlier this year bcuz of the ban. Canons sales are up simply bcuz they released like a zillion new cameras in just a couple years. Sigma and Tamron have released some great lenses recently (14mm 1.4, 35-150 f2-f. 28 etc). So Sony is my choice. Nikon is looking good too.
@@MHarvey-tp5km been happily using both OEM and third party lenses for years. I get the best lens regardless of brand. Canon is artificially killing the competition. Very sad.
@@niceguyrides not everyone feel the way u feel, the market share of canon is keep growing … in fact the market share of sony and nikon combined cant even match the canon’s
Sony a6700 with Sony 70-350 for wildlife, Sigma 18-50 f2.8 for everyday and street, Sigma 56mm 1.4 for portraits.
you cant beat this with any system based on weight to performance ratio.
Why would someone choose the APS-C over the FF. The answer is simple because I just made that choice. I'm travelling Asia and the weight of the camera system is a big deal. I'm on the A6400 + Sony 11mm F1.8 + Sigma 18-50mm F2.8 + Sony 85mm F1.8 = 1.25kG total. It's not the weight of the body thats the issue, its the weight of those FF lenses. I sold my FF A7RIII and FF lenses in order to 'downgrade' to the lighter system. The lighter weight is just so much nicer to travel with.
Canon R8 better and cheaper and full frame.
It's only better in some aspects and in other important aspects it's less than.
@@jockey12022011once the size and weight issues are almost equalized, I fail to see what sense the crop sensor camera makes. Also, given how close they are in price now, what’s the upside to aps-c?
@@tomd4748 I dont understand how you got the weights equal? The lenses for Full frame far outweigh the smaller apsc lenses.
@@jockey12022011it’s not so much to be a consideration unless you’re very weak and frail lol or lugging giant telephotos
Really the best camera reviews… data driven and personal preference are disclosed and explained.
Maybe I missed it in the video, but isn't the Fujifilm X-S20 an obvious comparison?
That's what I was thinking!
They probably don’t have access to the X-S20, they probably had to record with what they had to meet the embargo
Def a great comparison point. I’m sure there will be lots of those comparisons soon.
I mean, the Fuji XH2s, XH2, and XT5 are arguably all better APS-C cameras than any of these, but are a little more expensive. I’d think the X-S20 would make sense for sure. This channel has a pretty well-documented anti-Fuji bias. A lot of what is reported about GFX is just inaccurate and Tony seems to be hyper-critical of Fuji’s X autofocus, which I think is only somewhat fair right now. Fuji autofocus has improved a lot…
Sony forbid them to do it...
I got back in to photography about a year ago and would have considered canon. However, their choice to kill support for 3rd party lenses totally turned me off them all together, regardless of how good they might be.
I picked up an a6400 instead and plan to pick up a full frame sony at some point down the line.
Me too
Thanks for the review. Surprised that Fuji X-S20 is nowhere in sight though
Tony mentions that the a6600 does not have a flip screen and he could not see himself when doing a selfie. That A6600 actually does have a screen that can be flipped to face forward. Just grab the screen from the bottom, pull it toward you and then swivel it up. It is now positioned (mostly) above the camera and facing forward.
Yes, but what if you use a top-mounted microphone (like most) or any other accessory ? That's why Tony's point is relevant : not a tilting (and unobstructed) screen.
@@gillesmatheronpro The point here is that, regardless of the mounted accessory, is there a front-facing flip screen or not? The answer is: yes, there is.
Important to remember that that choosing full frame over APS-C also means lenses are much larger, heavier and more expensive. For those who want to travel light, think less about the bodies and more about the glass.
Exactly. The reason why I went with APS-C 10 years ago and not going to switch to the full format.
actually an apsc equivalent lens to a full frame is about the same size and weight, if you take into consideration the aperture to get the same depth of field.
@@truthseeker6804 I am not so sure about that. But regardless, the NEX-sized bodies are gone and are likely not coming back, which is sad.
@@truthseeker6804 Yes, but I'd happily take an f-stop of low DOF away for the portability and cost reduction of lenses for travel. Not so much for portraiture, but most travel/street/journalism photography is fine with a bit more in focus. I think there's a place for APS-C and it's not a valid argument to suggest that when prices of APS-C and full frame bodies are similar that full frame is a logical "winner".
@@InstructorWest when the prices are similar, the apsc has to have many specs advantages that would overcome the full frame, then i would say the apsc is worth it for specific usecase. but if the specs difference isnt much, then the full frame is the clear winner. this a6700 is a good camera, my issue with this camera, its slightly overpriced. it shouldve been at $1100 and sony should release a better apsc camera to compete with the canon r7, a camera that can be used professionally, dual SD, more megapixel, faster fps. but this a6700 is good for video, but overheats fast tho. its got too many downsides. if you rarely do 4k120p the canon r7 and r8 are much better cameras for similar price.
Thanks for the review Tony, I think you have missed a few things, I have a A6600 and it's and all round camera for me, landscape, astro and wildlife, occasional portraits and ocourse video. It would have been good if you added in that this camera is an all-rounder and included sensor performance for low light in stills, also improvements and performance in low light, and stabilisation for video with a long lens. I have invested in Sony and third party lenses so it's an easy choice for me, I'll upgrade to the A6700 when I get a good deal.
What lens do you use for wildlife? 70-350?
@igordmitriev7211 that's it, it's a great lens light and sharp photos. I might also get the Sony 200 to 600 for more reach or the Tamron or Sigma equivalent
Honestly think we should see a comparison to the XS-20 because this is a fair bit more expensive yet seems to be comparative in most aspects.
Unbiased … APSC ULTIMATE review… doesn’t even include Fuji… 😂
16:07 the a6600 should be able to have the screen flip up, for selfie shooting/video.
You're right, my mistake. I never really considered the flip-up screen to be usable because it's hidden behind the mic in the hot shoe.
This is the best Sony camera promotion channel on UA-cam! Kudos!
Coming from a Canon Apsc M series I won't recommend canon at all. First they left M mount camera to die. Second they're not allowing third party lenses, Third, a lot of different mounts just for one brand. I will change to sony mainly because of the versatility and the AI autofocus is definitely much better for me.
One card slot is a dealbreaker and is the best reason for me to go with a competitor.
What cameras have you seen in this price range offering two memory card slots?
@@wreiadCanon r7
@@wreiad I was expecting it to cost $100 more and have dual slots. Z5, used X-T4.
@@wreiad X-T5 and X-H2...
Thank you for the informative and helpful comparison video! As always very useful! Keep creating!
I still think that the M6 mk11 is the best APS C , could have done with it's own EVF. 32 mp.
I'm struggling to part with my M50 mk I and II - both are unreal especially for street and landscape
I use mine mainly for junior sports and it's awesome
This camera has way too much undeserved hype. It's a mostly unimpressive and underwhelming small step forward over the last iteration. The new fujifilm camera ploughs right through this on all front except AF. Sony seem to always get positive spin on their cams, even when they are demonstrably lacking in several key areas.
Re R7 lens choice: you can always adapt EFs and EF lenses. Instantly, you have a huge choice.
You can tell when these 2 try too hard to punt a specific product. It's clear they're trying to push the 6700 here. I hate when reviewers do this
@@alwynsmit3546be real 😆
Absolutely disappointed. Waiting for 2 card slot. Nothing else matters. They could even make a6600 with secon slot. I would buy it for 1,5k. But now it's time to move for fuji or canon if sigma will make apsc f1.4 lenses for them. So disappointing...
There is a 5div with 2 card slots.
@@CO8848_2Canon r7 has two card slot
Tony, I bought Sony 6700 in October 2023, but returned it due to overheating problem even though I was only shooting photography.. I'm surprised you never mentioned the overheating problem of this new Sony 6700?
Again, they said they have failed memory card while filming the video... sounds familiar story, ehmm :).
Yeah we have a failure once or twice a year. We generate a lot of data though.
No precapture on the Sony? Otherwise I think it’s a great camera.
I clicked on the video for a a6600 vs a6700 as the title says, and way too much vs Canon r7… I stopped watching because it was annoying
Another advantage of the Canon is FV mode where you can control all of your main settings with just the front dial and rear wheel while you're looking through the viewfinder or on the rear screen. After using that mode I feel like I never need three dials to control my main settings.
Great review! I personally dont understand this canon poor lens selection topic. Why you dont count EF selection, what is huge and they adapt almost perfect. For birding, I dont care some tammy 150-500, while with little extra i can buy EF 300mm f2,8 is1 used... For me this big plus for canon, sony shooters only has 200-600 and next step is already new big white lenses with big prices, 2000$- 10000$ range is empty.
That was in there so they could make the Sony look like the obvious choice. They seem to shamelessly punt certain products & will use laughable points to 'prove' one is better than the other
Great video guys, thanks for the comparison. I have the 6600 and in general I'm super happy with the photography side but I'm thinking moving to the 6700 for the video improvements.
I can only say, do it!😀
I'll take the R7 all day long over the Sony.
15:53 The A6600 does have a flip-out screen
All you need for the Canon R7 is EF-RF adaptor and you can use the vast array of EF lenses , Canon and others that are available. I have done that on my R7
so far, that is the compelling reason for me to stay w/ Canon.
Autofocus works as well as native with that adaptor?
The real competition appeared at the end, when Tony lifted the R8
Tony is leading photographer in the world.. in memory card fails
As a Canon 90D shooter, would love to see how well some of the Canon ef-s lenses perform on the R7 (with an adapter of course). The 90D has a lot of focus issues, attributed to the sensor size and MP. Had been wondering if the mirrorless APS-C Canon would have a similar issue, but seems not - that's good to know.
Usually - the EF(S) lenses perform wayyyy better on the mirrorlens cams conpared to the good old DSLr‘s
@@irciiskylp9975 fantastic to know, thanks!
Had R7. Sold it because AF.
@@gfxmaniac that's not good to hear 😒
@@Berry_N I was early adopter of Canon R7. Here is list of the things I didn't like about R7.
- shutter shock
-AF hunting even with RF 100-400, sometimes you had to peek AF in EVF, cause I got AF confirmation it is locked on subject, but I had to pump that AF-ON button to see it is focused (this was biggest drawback of this camera), this problem is not that big of a deal if subject if filling the frame or contrast is good
-32mpix sensor is just too much for normal user, details got crushed in shadows which was critical for my work (I shoot in woods) so sometimes I feel FF would be better solution but FF is not ideal for wildlife on budget and reach
Still think ergonomics of R7 are great, battery life is great too. Dual card slots, button customizations, EVF, screen great. It was tough decision to part with it but I just might buy A6700, still have A6100 which has great sensor much better for shadow recovery than R7 and more details in general since 24mpix doesn't resolve lens flaws.
My only argument/debate with the R8 versus the A6700, is that sure you can get shallower depth of field with the full frame sensor and glasses are mostly made for full frames especially exotic ones, are that third party companies have really upped their games when it comes to cropped sensor mirrorless. Sigma are popular with their primes specifically made for crop, Tamron are popular with their 2.8 zooms for crop. Viltrox are now competing with their 1.2 primes. This is really important because the lenses built for the fullframe are either super expensive compared to the low end model, and the low end models(Sony e 50 1.8) are not superior to the crop versions from Sigma( 30 1.4). These third party lenses enable to give you that shallow depth of field you are looking for in the full frame, and I will also claim that because crop sensor bodies have denser pixels per inch, lense made specifically for crop sensor high density sensors would have to be super sharp to resolve the megapixels, and sensor technologies have come so far the noise levels especially at lower ISOs are basically negligible. Because of these I've resolve myself to the a6xxx ecosystem.
It's not a complete comparison if you don't have Fuji
Canon R8 has no IBIS and is a very different kind of camera, why not compare to something that's more an obvious comparison like the X-S20??
They are comparing to R7 not R8
The R8 is Canon's current entry level full frame camera, and its hands down the best entry level full frame camera, in part because it takes the abilities of the R6 Mark 2, and puts it in a prosumer body (smaller battery, 1 card slot, et al).
Sony needed to beat the R7, or at least match it... it didn't... the only strength Sony clearly has is lens selection...
Because xs20 cannot compete
the EVF and the LCD screen suxs!!!!!!!!! can't believe how bad they are
I don’t remember you guys talking about the main feature which is the 4K 120 frames per second. People who buy an apc camera wants value and portability. Pro will get a full frame camera already at this price. APC person want to be able to carry this camera around without a huge lens. Who wants to spend over $1000 on 1 lens for this price point. This is a top of the line vacation and taking your kids photos and videos.
Tony, How about used A9 + TC 1.4x for wildlife vs A6700? i Have mine for 1500 US with just 100k shutter count.
Brilliant!!! absolutely brilliant solution.
I used to shoot Canon full frame, but after they stopped allowing third party lenses, I sold all my gear, switched to Sony, and I won’t be looking back.
cant take this review seriously if you say that a6600 has no flip up screen
"Ultimate APS-C camera review" - does that mean it's the ultimate review, or that it's reviewing the ultimate APS-C cameras? Cos surely if it's the latter you've got to be including something like the X-H2S. I understand why you'd want to compare cameras at a similar price point and the H2S is significantly more expensive, but if you're talking about the ultimate APS-C, it seems like a big omission.
The micro HDMI port still doesn't make sense to me. Why Sony Why???? There only one card slot so there should be space for a full-sized port.
There really isn't much space at all. Only 1 card because of the small body form factor.
@@youuuuuuuuuuutube yeah realize that looking at it more closely now. The one card slot isn't a big deal for me but oh that micro hdmi port is so fragile.
The A6600 has more Custom Button options, they have removed the switch button from the 6700's back that I specifically use, and overall I had the impression of intentionally downplaying the a6600 just to promote the newer version. I have NEVER experienced ANY autofocus issues with the A6600 and have no intention of upgrading for what I can tell from the review. Yes, I'd love to have the better LCD and the USB-C and the memory slot inside vs under, but I would miss my Custom Button settings I already have on the A6600. The A6700 is a great camera obviously, but for me, it's not worth the upgrade.
No chelsea r7 can use RF full frame lens… who da hell care its bigger… as long as its sharper than those tiny apsc lenses
Yeah, the Sony a6700 is a beast and can do almost everything a lot better than previous a6xxx cameras, but does everyone need the 6700. The answer is no. Most people will never master the a6100 and spending $1400 plus tax for the body only is IMO, a waste of $$ for most people. Most would be far better served by buying a like new Sony a6100 from KEH or MPB for $650 and spend the difference on glass like the Sigma 16mm,30mm or 85mm f/1.4, etc. Additionally if you want the latest, I would certainly look at the Canon R7 which is the same price as the Sony a6700.
Can I connect an external monitor via HDMI, and not lose face tracking autofocus?
I’m not that unique and would buy the APS-C camera for it’s smaller size and weight for travel when I leave my full frame setup at home. For me the large array of small lenses available for Sony E mount is a clear win. I actually own both a Canon EOS R5 and Sony A1 and for the Canon R5 I don’t have a single RF L lens that is nice and small for light travel. With Sony there are many including the full array of Sigma I-Series from 17mm to 90mm that work both on FF and APS-C.
Thank you for your review.
Sony A6700 vs A6600 vs R7 ! Conclusion? Buy an R8! 🤣
19:25 honest question: what are the unique, specialty or niche, or generally just super high quality lenses for APS-C E-mount?
As an a6500 owner and hobbyist, the a6700 would be a nice upgrade. Thanks for the video.
Agreed. I have been waiting for something like this with all the performance upgrades with a newer sensor.
More like side grade. You upgrade to full frame from apsc. Not another apsc.
@@truthseeker6804 /facepalm
Just another APSC camera with limited improvement. I sort of expect a bit more from Sony on this model like faster frame rate more than just 1 more frame per sec. Seriously my old A7R4 can also shoot in APSC mode with 26mp.
I don't understand the lens issue just use RF lens you will be better off in the long run anyways and will have better glass it's a win win.
@TonyAndChelsea : or A Photography Enthusiast and New Camera Buyer point of view detailed comparison between Fuji XS20 and Sony 6700 or Canon R7 would be appreciable.
I have the R7 and am debating between the R6 MKII or the R8 for the full frame upgrade. As for RF glass, I love the RF 18-150 even though it is no0t an L glass lens. I also love the RF 100-400, even though it is not an APS-C lens. The RF600 F11 works very good if the lighting is decent. Plus I have a bunch of EF glass including the EF 300 F2.8 (v1) lens.
Nikon’s APSC - is it just too old at this point to bother comparing? Fuji interesting of course.
Sony doesnt count bird as animal 😂
Looks like Canon has big advantages nowadays in the autofocus system. I would def. go with Canon if I would not have had any cameras yet. Size difference isnt that big.
I really like Chelsea's points. She almost always takes a very practical view that the average hobbyist or enthusiast can appreciate. She also weighs budget more than Tony even if she's used to an R5, A1, or Nikon Z9. Tony's taste and preference almost always leans to the more expensive options. Understandable since he can afford any camera and nearly any lens or camera body he chooses.
I agree. They compliment each other well
I think this time Sony is behind, the R7 is better in many different ways, now the R7 and a6700 have the same price.
The af looks pretty impressive, the stabilization looks good, the no crop 4k 60 is a big plus, the auto framing option is pretty interesting, and the screen being able to flip to the side and rotate forward is very nice.
I do more photography than video, so i probably will wait on the upgrade but if you do a lot of video i think there is actually some big improvements here. (This is coming from an a6400 user)
Why not upgrade to a7r4
@zegzbrutal one is 2x the price of the other, my lenses are mainly aps-c, and I prefer a smaller body and leses. Full frame isn't really an upgrade for everyone, just as medium format isn't always an upgrade to full frame.
@@jared3622 depends where you are, but a7r4 dropped a lot from MSRP, some places is even cheaper than FX30. And if you don't mind used, good~mint condition a7r4/a7r4a is a better buy over a6700.
Getting it and use its crop mode only is no loss. The much better EVF, control layout and dual SD slots are worth it.
All 4K modes in A6700 have crop (its oversampled from 6K, but sensor has 6.2K) Its ends up 1.6x crop, same as Canon.
Its minimal, but its there.
I have the full frame Sony A7R IV and I'm seriously considering buying g the A6700 as a second body. Reasons: 1- I can use my existing quality full frame glass, unlike Nikon or Canon. 2- The smaller body is ideal for Street Photography and Travel.
I do a lot of event photography, so having these two cameras with me and the A6700 sporting a 16-35mm lens (full frame equivalent of 24-50mm) will be an ideal set up.
Sigma 16-35mm and 50-100mm f/1.8.
You can use Nikon FX glass on a DX body. The 24-70F4S is great on the Z50/Zfc/Z30. Not only that but with the ETZ21 you can mount ANY Sony lens to the Z-mount. I've used the 15mmf1.4G on my Z50 too. I'm getting an a6700 for my f2.8 Tamron zooms. Nikon's Expeed7/8 will narrow the gap.
HUGE shout out to Sony for how much better the color looks compared to the others in this video!
I think you guys have reviewed both cameras, the Sony a6700 and the Lumix S5ii. Which one for product photography?
I’ve really enjoyed my a6600 for hiking, travel (International & motorcycle) and landscape photography. Having a light weight kit and compact kit is important to me. After using the a6000, the a6600 was such an improvement. I appreciate the review of many of the improvements to a6700. But am wondering about the weight, so I will look that up as it is a big advantage for what I do. Thanks for the review!!
Interestingly enough the A6700 is slightly lighter than the A6600 but maybe a tad larger.
@@johnnorton5760 Ooooo good to know. I'll have to find a store with it and handle it a bit. Also Arthur R has a great review of it.
Another vlogger showed that the a6700 at 506 g is 9 g (0.3 oz) lighter than the a6600 - body only.
@@panhandlejake6200 Thanks so much!
sony 6700 lost two important modes for travel photo: HDR photo and MFNR (Multi Frame Noise Reduction). Also a6600 better at low light condition than a6700. So a6600 is better for photo and amateur video.
If someone is going to shoot with a camera the size of the Canon, then you might as well just shoot full frame. The whole point of APS-C is to have a smaller camera for traveling.
The R7 isn't that big...
The only reason I carry a Sony cropped sensor camera is for travel and portability. I prefer the Full Frame factor for serious photography and actual gigs. Travel and second body uses is where the far more compact rangefinder style Sony blows Canon away. No mention here of how the Sony fits in pockets and waist packs.
You should check out the new a7C II and a7C R.
I cant even consider this with the A7Cii coming...
I own R7 and A6600 and both are very good cameras. I would say IMO the R7 is better than A6600.
The R7 has its issues, however for the price it is the best Eye AF technology. I can not afford to drop £2,500 on R6ii, or £4,000 on R5.
I purchased my A6600 before there was announcement forbthe R7, and O was hokding out for the A6700 which was a rumour on Alpha rumours, and we know how accurate thatvweb site is !
In i am happy enough with A6600 and if i could get some GM glass it would be greatittle set up. As for R7, well i am a canon man and have lot of EF L glass, hence why i purchased the R7 even with its issues.
Let see if there is R7 firmware or R7ii !
Fuji XS20 should have been included in the comparison.
Some errors here and there: first of all you miscounted the dials. The α6600 did already have 2 dials not 1 (and no I am not counting the mode dial) for exposure. The α6700 now has three, not 2. Somehow the rear dial is always forgotten, even though such a dial was used many years in highest end cameras like 1DX and the like for exposure.
The α6600 screen is in fact 180° tiltable so that you can see yourself.
You never have less options on APS-C than an FF with the same mount. Must be a rush mistake you made ;)
Oh and a 50 F1.2 is definitely not an "overkill" for these cameras :)... It might be an overkill for some situations of course.
LOL, many reviewers don't know how to use the a6600, it has 2 dials, and ISO is one click. It is as easy as a Fuji x-t model.. those who complain about dials are just too dumb to learn to use it properly
I've never been a fan of your video style but this video has turned me around. I really enjoyed your real world approach and obvious shared love of the art. I'm a convert. Maybe i never paid enough attention in the past but i will in future.
Atmospheric effect of course will ruin any photos taken by any gears. The mp difference doesn't matter. But you should see the difference between 32 mp and 26 mp when subject is taken up close without the heat simmer.
My a6700 should arrive Aug 15. Can't wait. It is mostly for the ai auto focus that I wanted to upgrade. That should cut out missed focus most of the time. Second for me is better low light performance due to the BSI. I will appreciate the new adjustment wheel in front of the shutter button.
For me the "fully articulating" LCD screen is a downgrade. I only ever use the tilt feature and that has been impacted by the new design. I can understand vloggers who want to see the screen facing forward. I just don't do that. Fortunately this is overall a low use feature for me. I'll live with it. I have a Panasonic bridge FZ1000 with the fully articulating screen so I'm not new to the game.
I sold my 6400. The 6600 now becomes the back-up camera.
Dear Fuji .. Please resume sending products to them so that they can compare at least. Now that you solved the battery issue which I believe started with the X-H1 and after that you stopped sending new products to them, you can repair the burnt down bridge that you had between you and Northrup family.
--- Thank you.
From your mouth to Fuji's ears.
I accidentally destroyed my t7i Canon and I've been waiting for the new Sony to come out to replace it. I'm a hobbyist photographer. I do some macro photography,some bird/wildlife photography, some landscapes, some flowers, some videos and I'm not independently wealthy. Does anybody have suggestions on what I should buy?
1. Canon t8i - makes most use of what I have and it's cheapest option
2. Sony 6700 - lots of cool features- might be more portable than t8i but by the time you put a lens on it, it is about the same size as the t8i
3. Fujifilm ? - Is a bit cheaper but Sony seems like the main stream choice that will provide better options for the future.
4. Canon R7 - The camera I would buy except not going to buy Canon because of the no aftermarket lens nonsense. FWIW, I have bought 5 Canon cameras over the years and I'm sad that I won't be buying another one, but I need to move on.
I got the A6600 last year for the longer video recording and in 4K as my Nex 7 cuts out because of over heating before the time limit on recording. The A6700 is going to be better but at the cost of a larger camera and I already find the A6600 too heavy and bulky.
Are Sigma & Tamron E-Mount lenses better than Sigma & Tamron EF lenses? No! does the EF-R Adapter works flawlessly? Yes!
It's a little frustrating to keep hearing reviewers talk about Canon RF system not having a lot of glass options and ignoring the fact that canon is the only manufacturer that has an adaptor that works 100% of the time with 100% of lenses (Obviously 100% is an exaggeration, I haven't tried them all... but I've tried 10+ lenses at this stage adapted and all worked flawlessly, Image Stabilization and Auto-Focus, additionally every adapted lenses review I've seen has been positive.) Now if the EF lens eco system was weak I would understand... the criticism... But the EF collection is phenomenal in both quality and price, with an aftermarket for used lenses that is more active than any other, and with the ability to still buy EF lenses new... This makes Canon Mirrorless cameras some of the most exciting cameras for lenses options.
All from B&H
Sigma Canon EF 60-600 $1,999
Sigma Sony E 60-600 $1,989
Sigma Canon EF 70-200 $1,499
Sigma Sony E 70-200 $1,471
Sigma Canon EF 85 $1,039
Sigma Sony E 85 $1,069
Canon RF + Mount (cheap) Pros:
If you want old and used there is a strong market with low prices. A 300mm F2.8 Decent quality Canon for $1,300 Find a Sony that cheap... you can pick up a new 135mm f2 for $500
If you want an exciting unique lenses you have monsters like the 200mm F1.8,
If money isn't an issue and you want the best quality ever a strong case can be made for RF glass being ridiculously sharp with modern classics like the 28-70 F2, a 135mm f1.8 with IS and a 1200mm F8 and 800mm f5.6 (Forgive me if I'm wrong but I think the longest Sony goes is 600MM)
Is it wrong of Canon to behave so bad and cut out Sigma, Tamron and others from making lenses... Absolutely! We should raise our voices and hope canon changes there behavior.
But when educating viewers its also important to tell the full story not half the narrative, Canon is wrong... But Canon also has the best glass eco system...
P.S. I'm selling my Canon gear and moving to Sony to get away from overheating FX30 here I come :')
Adding this incase anyone thinks I'm just some canon fan boy lol Seriously my biggest disappointment from leaving my Canon Mirrorless cameras is the lenses selection!
I'm hoping the Sigma adapter for Canon to Sony works well... If so I'm keeping my glass... But from what I've seen its hit and miss...
How can you forget the xh2 or s variant?
Canon R7! just bought one, thanks for your share. What kind of filter will be better? Kase or Nisi?
Cropping full frame as you say is common for wildlife. That's why I chose Olympus micro 4/3 with IBS and a 1990s Nikon 300 f2.8 and f4 version giving effectively 600mm f5.6 on the 2.8. And let me say it's a real challange focusing, but on my budget with tripod its dooable (eventually!)
same price with full frame R8
Yeah it's a really tough comparison with the R8. I would TOTALLY choose the R8 for myself. I do mention it at the end of the video.
really enjoyed your vid. But 3 promotional segments were unnecessary. Not a good idea to advertise 3 times the same thing, kinda doesn't make me want to shop there anymore
Canon blocking lens selection will make me move to this a6700 soon. I was with canon since 400d days. Sorry canon. I must move on.
Where is interesting Рекордер Video, thank you so much. And wish you success✨🤸🏻♂️🎬🎻🍹
For me, long time user A6400, A6700 is a disappointment.
11 fps on an slow running old man is no challenge for this camera at all 😂😂😂😂
If you google for "dpreview video stills tool" - and you chose e.g. a6300 (4K UHD) vs a6700 (4K UHD), well, the a6300 footage is superior (at least to my eyes!)
The setup claims to be on same lens/aperture etc
So how can the much older a6300 produce better S35 4K video footage compared to this new a6700 is a mystery to me
Both APS-C bodies claim to produce 4K from oversampled 6K
However the a6300 is CMOS whilst the a6700 is BSI-CMOS. Could that be the difference?
As far as pixel bining goes - I m not sure what's the case for the a6300/a6700
Only three lenses and no "door" to other brands : this is how Canon treat their customers. When they claim about image quality, pro-level service, high-quality electronics, the best tools, etc. they hide their lack of consideration.
Proven by this (published on Canon's Website, translated) : "Aside from the exclusive EF-M range of lenses, multi-purpose and compact, thanks to the EF-EOS M adapter you can use more then 80 EF-S and EF DSLR-developped lenses".
Clever move, as they officially "recycle" their older lenses for DSLR as APS-C substitute ones. Technically, this is a meaningless attitude for the sensor to rear-lens element distance is different from a DSLR camera to a hybrid camera. And they do know it.
This is an extremely different policy from brands such as Fuji and Sony (and others too). These two offer many choices to pick from, and an open lens-system with their own products competing against those of third-party manufacturers.
Canon is locking when others are opening... better chose your side wisely !
You can have all the specifications you want and all the dual-pixels you want, making fun of your customers this way proves how much you actually (DO NOT) care about them. This is NOT the Canon we are used to !
Thank you for not overlooking on this crucial point, because creating images is not only about cameras... it takes a whole system around.
12:40 skin tones are much more pleasing in A6700
Nothing can really make up for the lack of a wide selection of fast RF glass. Canon makes nice bodies, but its all worthless if I just can't find the right RF lens for my purpose
Tony doesn't care , because he likes to use his giant bazooka sized lenses. He's fine with Canon's DSLR glass from previous decades. To me, compact AND fast, modern lenses matter to me as much as a compact camera body.
Here's a monkey wrench to mess things up even worse: Depending on your lens and the aperture you use, you might find that you might be able to use smaller apertures without "cat's eye" bokeh. (have rounder bokeh) using full frame lenses on crop sensor cameras. This is going to be a hit - or = miss problem where you simply have to try out a bunch of lenses at various apertures and see what happens. Actually you might also find less off-axis "fall off" using full frame lenses on APS-C bodies. Unfortunately, the flip side is that you might also find that full frame lenses are a bit less sharp than crop sensor dedicated lenses. These are not things I would normally obsess over, but if you have an edge, it might count sometimes.
I am waiting for the price drop. I am a gear head on a budget. I can always achieve great results with even the A6000 but preferred the A6100 for cllor science. I use lense with OSS most of the time and don’t need ibis as most third party doesn’t work well with them on apsc bodies i.e the 17-70 greatest 2.8 on the market with VC
A6600 does have a flip up AND forward screen!!! You can in DC yourself from in front of the camera. Ooooopsie 😂😂😂
Valid point but I forgot about it because the mic in the hot shoe always blocks the screen.
@@TonyAndChelsea you're right about that! lol
Not to sound mean, but from someone looking to put money down riggt now, this is a bit of a useless comparison without the X-S20 here... if it's bc you don't have a copy,vwait until you do? Leaving a camera out of the comparison that wins many categories is a bad look.
Sony all day. I will never support Canon going the route of proprietary lenses only. Couple that with the infinitely superior tracking and autofocus of the Sony chips and sensors, its a no brainer.
Appreciate you guys for comparing A6600 vs A6700.
Being left-eyed dominant, my nose would always be square in the middle of the LCD screen on the Sony. I trust that others enjoy their dominant-eye privilege!
How is the high iso performance in stills with the a6700?
the power switch on the 6700 is at a weird freaking angle drives me nuts..