I don’t know how you didn’t do Lizard and Man bat they not only are both scientists who turn them selves into creatures by accident but they have the same name
I'm amazed that, when trying to give reasons for why you matched Bane and Venom against eachother, you didn't bring up that both were played by Tom Hardy as a reason.
@@MrToonsy basically riddler had a mental snap then decided to just live is life as an untouchable person, if batman or any law enforcement touch him he eliminates their loved ones or in batmans case a random person he even blackmails the rest of gothams crime lords to pay him, batman kills riddler because their is no other choice the police or criminal world won't touch him and the only thing protecting him is batmans own code
Flash does have a good rogues gallery, but I’d have to say third place goes to the X-Men. I mean, Magneto alone probably puts them in the conversation, but then there’s Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Mystique, Sabretooth, Deadpool and Emma Frost (started out as villains), Mojo, Bolivar Trask and his Sentinels, the Hellfire Club… I could go on and on.
Using Morlun of all people seems like pulling from the C list barrel to give Bats the win. Also I'd argue Supes has the 3rd best Rogues gallery simply because of Lex and Darkseid.
Batman has the best villains ever. I feel like the Lizard and Man-Bat have more in common because Man-Bat is trying to cure his deafness, and Lizard is trying to regrow his arm. Scarecrow also knows martial arts and created his own form known as "Violent Dancing" and has been able to stand up to Batman and also his prolonged exposer to his Fear Toxin caused him brain damage which has made him not able to be afraid of anything, except Batman.
I personally would have switched Clayface and Mr. Freeze because he has a similar story to sandman and I think that would have been a more interesting matchup, but everything else was really cool and just an awesome video
Green Goblin is almost an amalgam of Joker, Bane and Lex Luthor. With a “trying to recreate the super soldier serum” origin added on. He’s a mega Corp CEO and Super Scientist with more money than most governments and personal beef with the Hero like Lex, but he’s also a friend killing sadist like the Joker. And hes more than physical match for Spiderman thanks to his super drugs and was able to figure out the Spiders Identity like Bane. I know that this is more to do with comic writers taking ideas from each other than anything but i still find it interesting.
Spider-Man villains always seamed more random than Batman ones. Batman fight mostly mentally ill freaks or corrupt powerfull figures, but Spider-Man faces mostly people who just want to abuse their powers to make some cash or boderline sadists who just hate his guts and want to torment and kill him.
That's the worst way you could have ever described Spider-Mans villians and extremely biased towards Batman. Joker, Bane, Killer Croc, Penguin are also people who fall in the category of torturing Batman, money hungry and torment just cause of the fun of it. Most of Spider-Mans villians were just normal people who just got unlucky and got corrupted. You wanna tell me people like the Lizard, Venom, Carnage, Goblin, Mr Negative were just evil all the time?
I get giving the point to Scarecrow over Mysterio, but one point I think is noteworthy is how Mysterio has had more notable stories with greater impact. Crane tends to get sidelined by other villains, even in other stories mostly about him, unlike Mysterio who even caused Wolverine to kill all of the X-Men in Old Man Logan
That's a good point! I didn't take into consideration at all how these villains worked against other heroes - after all it was Scarecrow's fear toxin (used by Joker) that make Superman kill Lois in the Injustice timeline.
That’s more of a writing problem then a scarecrow problem I think pastra talked about this scarecrow can be as good as the joker but he isn’t cause of the writers
@@LimitedEye you're kidding right? Scarecrow would make him trip balls. Mysterio's illusions aren't real. For scarecrow each person lives their nightmare, plus the only thing crane fears most is batman. He would wipe the absolute floor with that glorified scooby doo villian 😂
Interesting video, I'd say part of the flip between Batman and Spider-Man, with Spidey, it is his life, and it all folds down to that, while with Batman, its about making sure what happened to him as a child never happens again to anyone else, thus Batman has a rather expansive feel in Gotham and DC comics, thus making his villains seem larger in scope. Spider-Man's villains will always circle back to informing on his struggles, his life, in some way.
I think I like Joker vs Batman more on an individual level with Peter vs Norman being close, but I like the way Green Goblin ties into the world as a whole a lot more than Joker.
As a long time, old ass jaded UA-cam watcher, this video needs a ton of work, but i dig it, and i am gonna subscribe so I can watch you grow into the potential. Keep up the good work
The reason i think Ock stands over Riddler really. I Ock by and large is unchanged from his original design, out the box he was perfect. Riddler has had change in design many times, not just costume, but personality.
Flash may come in 3rd for the best rogue’s gallery (his “Sinister Six” are literally called “The Rogues”), I’d personally give 4th to the X-Men because they all represent something so sadly real within humanity
Spider-Man will always be my favorite superhero. However, I would have to give this to Batman. Both are amazing, but Joker honestly seals the deal (even though he is used too much).
You can tell this video was made by a Spider-Man fan because the whole structure is designed to make it seem like Spidey has a chance against Batman's rogues. Pitting villains against each other sounds good on paper, but it kinda ignores the fact that Batman just has a greater number of interesting villains. Sure, Venom might be more interesting than Bane (He's not but let's pretend), but that doesn't matter when he's one of only like four interesting ones, the others just being one-note animal themed crooks. Spider-Man's rogues gallery is considered the second best in comics because it's full of colourful bad guys with different superpowers that can be fun in episodic adventures (like in an animated TV show). But when talking about interesting characters? It's not even close. Batman clears. Btw, Flash IS third, but that's only because Superman is second and Spidey fourth.
Huge missed opportunity not to do a match up between Kraven the Hunter and Deathstroke. Also, I get why you paired Sandman against Clayface, but I would have paired Clayface against the Chameleon because they can both impersonate others’ identities. The only other Batman villain you could compare Chameleon to would be Hush. And just one more thing… you have to pair Killer Croc against the Rhino.
Honestly I wouldn't of used characters that are now of days on the side of good like Venom and instead saved them for a allies video. As not only are these characters haven't been villains in decades, comparing Venom to Red Hood/Jason would've been far more fitting than Bane IMO. Besides as you already mentioned Carnage is already there.
Would you make a part 2 of this video? This idea is very interesting, and I'm kinda curious how would you match up Kraven, Mad Hatter, Scorpion, Firefly and so on
18:26 so I recently learned in case no one knows because I also didn't know but Flint Marko has a real name it's William Baker. I learned this through a game called Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. For the longest time I thought sandman was only Flint Marko through the movies. Just wanted to share this around because I'm certain most people like myself didn't know about Sandman's real name.
Venom Lizard Doc Ock Kingpin Tie between Scarecrow and Mysterio Black Cat Sandman Ra's Al Ghul Green Goblin Joker and Two-Face might be more iconic, I still prefer Green Goblin and Lizard more Spider-Man wins for me
This was a good vid analysis and pretty much agree with your picks... Except for the Cat Women. Since Selina is more likely to team up with Bruce than fight him, I'd argue that she's more of an anti-hero than a full on villain nowadays. At least when compared to Felicia, who's more likely to fight Peter and try to seduce him to the darkside and Spidey tries to bring her to the light side with little to no success. I mean yeah she'll team up with Spider-Man and other heroes, but once the dust settles and the big villain is defeated, she's already out of there with her goods
Why? His villians except the ones that are speedsters are much weaker than him and only manage to give him a challenge due to plot induced stupidity. His only villians that are strong enough to tangle with him have the exact same powers as him which is also pretty lame.
Only reason I feel like spider man has better villains is because he actually fights majority of them Batman has too many villains that really have no chance against him they weak as hell tbh
This is a terrible analysis, as soon as venom beat bane you could tell it’s very biased. He used knull, carnage etc to edge out the point however they are characters of their own they aren’t extensions of venom. Villains are based on how they impact their heroes which is why bane would take the point because some would argue that he did more to Batman than characters like joker whereas venom lacks some aspects to him which is filled by green goblin or doc oc
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I don’t know how you didn’t do Lizard and Man bat they not only are both scientists who turn them selves into creatures by accident but they have the same name
Kurt yeah that's funny. Langstrum and Conners.
@@laughslapproductions4690 Lizard is Kurt but Man Bat is Kirk so technically different
I'm amazed that, when trying to give reasons for why you matched Bane and Venom against eachother, you didn't bring up that both were played by Tom Hardy as a reason.
lmao great point
In my opinion they both have iconic villains I can't choose I love them both equally.
There's one comic book of the riddler where he stops playing games, and batman killed him
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@@MrToonsy basically riddler had a mental snap then decided to just live is life as an untouchable person, if batman or any law enforcement touch him he eliminates their loved ones or in batmans case a random person he even blackmails the rest of gothams crime lords to pay him, batman kills riddler because their is no other choice the police or criminal world won't touch him and the only thing protecting him is batmans own code
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Flash does have a good rogues gallery, but I’d have to say third place goes to the X-Men. I mean, Magneto alone probably puts them in the conversation, but then there’s Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Mystique, Sabretooth, Deadpool and Emma Frost (started out as villains), Mojo, Bolivar Trask and his Sentinels, the Hellfire Club… I could go on and on.
Using Morlun of all people seems like pulling from the C list barrel to give Bats the win.
Also I'd argue Supes has the 3rd best Rogues gallery simply because of Lex and Darkseid.
Honestly, I think lizard versus man bat would’ve made more sense
I feel like bane would match kraven more
The Joker is like how green hills zone is to sonic games
Why is this so right lol
Penguin vs. Kingpin were great to compare!
Collin farrel as the penguin said I’ll be the new kingpin of Gotham
Batman has the best villains ever. I feel like the Lizard and Man-Bat have more in common because Man-Bat is trying to cure his deafness, and Lizard is trying to regrow his arm. Scarecrow also knows martial arts and created his own form known as "Violent Dancing" and has been able to stand up to Batman and also his prolonged exposer to his Fear Toxin caused him brain damage which has made him not able to be afraid of anything, except Batman.
I personally would have switched Clayface and Mr. Freeze because he has a similar story to sandman and I think that would have been a more interesting matchup, but everything else was really cool and just an awesome video
It should have been Mr freeze Vs Doc Ock
Green Goblin is almost an amalgam of Joker, Bane and Lex Luthor. With a “trying to recreate the super soldier serum” origin added on. He’s a mega Corp CEO and Super Scientist with more money than most governments and personal beef with the Hero like Lex, but he’s also a friend killing sadist like the Joker. And hes more than physical match for Spiderman thanks to his super drugs and was able to figure out the Spiders Identity like Bane. I know that this is more to do with comic writers taking ideas from each other than anything but i still find it interesting.
Spider-Man villains always seamed more random than Batman ones. Batman fight mostly mentally ill freaks or corrupt powerfull figures, but Spider-Man faces mostly people who just want to abuse their powers to make some cash or boderline sadists who just hate his guts and want to torment and kill him.
That's the worst way you could have ever described Spider-Mans villians and extremely biased towards Batman. Joker, Bane, Killer Croc, Penguin are also people who fall in the category of torturing Batman, money hungry and torment just cause of the fun of it. Most of Spider-Mans villians were just normal people who just got unlucky and got corrupted. You wanna tell me people like the Lizard, Venom, Carnage, Goblin, Mr Negative were just evil all the time?
@@masudbillah6196 well carnage has always been evil
"The RIddle" is an amazing comic that focuses on The RIddle btw
I’ll have to check it out!
I think if you read Riddler - One Bad Day. It really shows what you can do with the riddler and a perfect example of him outsmarting Batman
I get giving the point to Scarecrow over Mysterio, but one point I think is noteworthy is how Mysterio has had more notable stories with greater impact. Crane tends to get sidelined by other villains, even in other stories mostly about him, unlike Mysterio who even caused Wolverine to kill all of the X-Men in Old Man Logan
That's a good point! I didn't take into consideration at all how these villains worked against other heroes - after all it was Scarecrow's fear toxin (used by Joker) that make Superman kill Lois in the Injustice timeline.
Crane would destroy mysterio if they went up against each other
That’s more of a writing problem then a scarecrow problem I think pastra talked about this scarecrow can be as good as the joker but he isn’t cause of the writers
@@laughslapproductions4690cap
@@LimitedEye you're kidding right? Scarecrow would make him trip balls. Mysterio's illusions aren't real. For scarecrow each person lives their nightmare, plus the only thing crane fears most is batman. He would wipe the absolute floor with that glorified scooby doo villian 😂
"14:25 "scarecrow was bullied as a child" anyone who actually read the comics will tell you a lot more
Interesting video, I'd say part of the flip between Batman and Spider-Man, with Spidey, it is his life, and it all folds down to that, while with Batman, its about making sure what happened to him as a child never happens again to anyone else, thus Batman has a rather expansive feel in Gotham and DC comics, thus making his villains seem larger in scope. Spider-Man's villains will always circle back to informing on his struggles, his life, in some way.
I think I like Joker vs Batman more on an individual level with Peter vs Norman being close, but I like the way Green Goblin ties into the world as a whole a lot more than Joker.
That's true, Norman is a force in New York even when he's not being the Goblin. Joker is sort a like a parasite to Gotham, not as much a part of it.
@@BWHERE Agreed. Plus the way Norman takes over the Avengers and is a power to be reckoned with on Marvel Comics at large.
I would have also done Mr. Negative against Mr. Freeze as both are the sympathetic villains
Oh yeah, they are both great! Contrasting how they both deal with revenge would be really interesting
As a long time, old ass jaded UA-cam watcher, this video needs a ton of work, but i dig it, and i am gonna subscribe so I can watch you grow into the potential. Keep up the good work
22:35 peter called aunt may saying he loved her when he was already 6 days without resting and morlun wait for him to finish
The reason i think Ock stands over Riddler really. I Ock by and large is unchanged from his original design, out the box he was perfect. Riddler has had change in design many times, not just costume, but personality.
Man, Bane of the Demon, is a fucking GREAT Bane story. I just read it, and frankly it kills Knightfall to me.
These videos are amazing
Thank you!
Even funnier Meta parallel.It's the fact that tom hardy plate both bain and venom
Flash may come in 3rd for the best rogue’s gallery (his “Sinister Six” are literally called “The Rogues”), I’d personally give 4th to the X-Men because they all represent something so sadly real within humanity
Superman's is pretty slept on too. My top 5 would be batman spiderman flash superman and the xmen.
Spider-Man will always be my favorite superhero. However, I would have to give this to Batman.
Both are amazing, but Joker honestly seals the deal (even though he is used too much).
The lizard ain't that much more unique than two face. Remember kraven's last hunt? Remember *Vern* ?
I actually prefer Spiderman villains as a whole, but theres no denying that Joker and Batman are the greatest hero/villain duo of all time.
Lizard and man bat would be better, still great video
This needs more likes
Thank you!
You can tell this video was made by a Spider-Man fan because the whole structure is designed to make it seem like Spidey has a chance against Batman's rogues.
Pitting villains against each other sounds good on paper, but it kinda ignores the fact that Batman just has a greater number of interesting villains. Sure, Venom might be more interesting than Bane (He's not but let's pretend), but that doesn't matter when he's one of only like four interesting ones, the others just being one-note animal themed crooks.
Spider-Man's rogues gallery is considered the second best in comics because it's full of colourful bad guys with different superpowers that can be fun in episodic adventures (like in an animated TV show). But when talking about interesting characters? It's not even close. Batman clears.
Btw, Flash IS third, but that's only because Superman is second and Spidey fourth.
Joker is to Batman as Charmander is to Pokemon.
Im surprised wall man and Kite man didn't get comparisons
Spiderman definitely has the cooler looking ones. Batman’s are more iconic though
Huh ? 🤣🤣🤣 That’s False
@@BigGuido7 dr. octopus, hobgoblin, venom, scorpion,
0:20 personally I think 3rd place goes to punisher, flash is 4th
Also I feel like Kraven would've been a better comparison for bane
Huge missed opportunity not to do a match up between Kraven the Hunter and Deathstroke. Also, I get why you paired Sandman against Clayface, but I would have paired Clayface against the Chameleon because they can both impersonate others’ identities. The only other Batman villain you could compare Chameleon to would be Hush.
And just one more thing… you have to pair Killer Croc against the Rhino.
Honestly I wouldn't of used characters that are now of days on the side of good like Venom and instead saved them for a allies video. As not only are these characters haven't been villains in decades, comparing Venom to Red Hood/Jason would've been far more fitting than Bane IMO. Besides as you already mentioned Carnage is already there.
Shouldve done Bane V Kraven
In my opnion & tbh, the best villains are: bane, killercroc, joker, venom & etc.
Would you make a part 2 of this video? This idea is very interesting, and I'm kinda curious how would you match up Kraven, Mad Hatter, Scorpion, Firefly and so on
Maybe! They both have a lot of other great villains
18:26 so I recently learned in case no one knows because I also didn't know but Flint Marko has a real name it's William Baker. I learned this through a game called Marvel Ultimate Alliance 3. For the longest time I thought sandman was only Flint Marko through the movies. Just wanted to share this around because I'm certain most people like myself didn't know about Sandman's real name.
Venom
Lizard
Doc Ock
Kingpin
Tie between Scarecrow and Mysterio
Black Cat
Sandman
Ra's Al Ghul
Green Goblin
Joker and Two-Face might be more iconic, I still prefer Green Goblin and Lizard more
Spider-Man wins for me
Respect for your list but I think you might just like Spider-Man more in general but that’s ok
Hey great video ya def know your stuff! Idk about anyone else, but the constant camera sound effect was a bit much for my taste. But great job!
Sand man should of been compared to Mr freeze
Great point, that’s a good matchup!
This was a good vid analysis and pretty much agree with your picks... Except for the Cat Women. Since Selina is more likely to team up with Bruce than fight him, I'd argue that she's more of an anti-hero than a full on villain nowadays. At least when compared to Felicia, who's more likely to fight Peter and try to seduce him to the darkside and Spidey tries to bring her to the light side with little to no success. I mean yeah she'll team up with Spider-Man and other heroes, but once the dust settles and the big villain is defeated, she's already out of there with her goods
Black cat is such a ripoff of catwoman. They could have at least picked a new animal 😂
@@laughslapproductions4690 you could say that for *a lot* of Marvel/DC characters
You are correct that Flash comes in third place.
Thank you!
Why? His villians except the ones that are speedsters are much weaker than him and only manage to give him a challenge due to plot induced stupidity. His only villians that are strong enough to tangle with him have the exact same powers as him which is also pretty lame.
Me personally venom is best villain.
Wilson fiske has so much over penguin when it comes to physical power🤣🤣
True, if this were a power scaling video, it wouldn’t even be a contest
It’s batman moving on
hey what about Mr negative and the spot??
Only reason I feel like spider man has better villains is because he actually fights majority of them Batman has too many villains that really have no chance against him they weak as hell tbh
I think Killer Moth is a better parallel to Venom, as Killer Moth was designed to be an evil counterpart to Batman.
Or owl man
Superman
Fantastic Fours have the best villains
HELLYEAH!! Kite man is better
15:12 maybe (he also make old man Logan kill all the x-men and sometimes brings back Gwen Stacy or makes peter think he impregnated also Gwen Stacy)
Injustice joker used Cranes gas on superman and basically wrecked that entire universe
This is a terrible analysis, as soon as venom beat bane you could tell it’s very biased. He used knull, carnage etc to edge out the point however they are characters of their own they aren’t extensions of venom.
Villains are based on how they impact their heroes which is why bane would take the point because some would argue that he did more to Batman than characters like joker whereas venom lacks some aspects to him which is filled by green goblin or doc oc
Ugh clay face should be matched for Venum and rhino with bane
Sandman and clayface
I’m gonna be a part 2 to this
HOBGOBLIN 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Lizerd and man bat is better also mr freeze and doc oct too
BatMan
Calm down with the sound FX lmfao
dr doom solos all
17:27 😅
+1 Black Cat
Spider-man has the better villans because they actually have powers
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It's Batman not even close🦇🖤🌃🗽
Sounds like you didn’t even use your brain when you typed this.
I feel like the joker solos but if we’re talking about based off how all their villains are it’s spider man
Sinister 6 would smoke Batman rouge galley alone