I'm amazed that, when trying to give reasons for why you matched Bane and Venom against eachother, you didn't bring up that both were played by Tom Hardy as a reason.
I don’t know how you didn’t do Lizard and Man bat they not only are both scientists who turn them selves into creatures by accident but they have the same name
Man Bat doesn't seem that popular. Sure, people know who he is, but can they cite like a single specific storyline with him besides that jump scare in the videogame?
@piercemchugh4509 the first episode of the animated series was great, but he's not covered in media much. He'd make for a great horror villian in a movie if done right.
Flash does have a good rogues gallery, but I’d have to say third place goes to the X-Men. I mean, Magneto alone probably puts them in the conversation, but then there’s Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Mystique, Sabretooth, Deadpool and Emma Frost (started out as villains), Mojo, Bolivar Trask and his Sentinels, the Hellfire Club… I could go on and on.
What I love about Batman’s rogues gallery is how they’re all aspects of Bruce is evil. Penguin is if Bruce used his inherited wealth for selfish means, Scarecrow uses fear to uses other people fear against them while Bruce embodies his own fear to fight for others, Mr. Freeze will kill for who he loves while Bruce knows it won’t help bring loved ones back along with tech, Riddler is someone who believes the smart should rule the world whilst batman believes it should educate, Joker wants people to embody their sadistic side while batman shows that there’s a healthy outlet for the darkness, the list goes on
Green Goblin is better and have one of the most iconic comic moment in comic history. Green Goblin killing Gwen Was never done in comics before nor in stories beforehand when Norman killed the love interest of the hero which was never done before.
@@blowc1612 I disagree. Each of Batman’s villains explore different aspects of his psychology. Marvel has a lot of great villains. I think Spider-Man has the best villains in marvel, but overall I prefer DC’s villains. Batman and Spider-Man equally have great rogues galleries, but I prefer how Batman’s again explores his worldview and their flaws. I don’t feel like Spider-Man’s villains do that to the same degree minus Doc Ock
I think Kraven the Hunter absolutely should have been up there, potecially as a repalcement for morlun. He is one of the most iconic and brutal spidy villains as well as having one of the most iconic story lines in Kraven's Last Hunt
I personally would have switched Clayface and Mr. Freeze because he has a similar story to sandman and I think that would have been a more interesting matchup, but everything else was really cool and just an awesome video
@@shadowmaydawn that’s just a mutated form of Spider-Man, not really a completely new villain, I get the comparison but I still prefer Lizard in this case
Lizard vs Man-Bat is a better comparison. They're both good doctors who tried to use science to help the world, by giving them animal attributes. But something went wrong & turned both of them into human/animal hybrids who the hero had to find a cure for.
Green Goblin is almost an amalgam of Joker, Bane and Lex Luthor. With a “trying to recreate the super soldier serum” origin added on. He’s a mega Corp CEO and Super Scientist with more money than most governments and personal beef with the Hero like Lex, but he’s also a friend killing sadist like the Joker. And hes more than physical match for Spiderman thanks to his super drugs and was able to figure out the Spiders Identity like Bane. I know that this is more to do with comic writers taking ideas from each other than anything but i still find it interesting.
I think I like Joker vs Batman more on an individual level with Peter vs Norman being close, but I like the way Green Goblin ties into the world as a whole a lot more than Joker.
@@asadhussain5642just something DC copied Marvel since Green Goblin was the first villain in comics history to kill off a heroes love interest. The way Marvel also has spiderman cope with it is far superior than how DC handled it.
Also, a fun story with Sandman is that for a while, Sandman had become a full-on hero. He was even a reserve member of the Avengers until the writers decided to go back to the status quo.
Using Morlun of all people seems like pulling from the C list barrel to give Bats the win. Also I'd argue Supes has the 3rd best Rogues gallery simply because of Lex and Darkseid.
I definitely agree about the Morlun outta all ppl....I felt he coulda matched Kingpin to Ra's. also felt Bane coulda been matched to Rhino. I'd debate X-men as a franchise have the 3rd best because of Mags, Poc and Phoenix(even Proteus) but definitely Supe's rogue is Vicious
Ok I could say the same for bringing clay face when there’s plenty of great choices thats still on the board even penguin who I love but there’s still Jason Todd court of owls poison ivy Mr freeze Harley Quinn hush Hugo strange mad hatter professor pyg I could keep going too Batman just has too many great rouges
@@ShelleyLevyMusic OOOH hugo strange could've been pared against mysterio. Not that scarecrow vs mysterio isn't a decent choice, but hugo strange does things in ways that nearly parallel mysterio (In that he screws with people without needing to physically attack them).
I disagree with your description of Norman's motivations. The whole "beat Spider-Man to get credentials for a crime syndacate" thing was a brief initial motovation in the Silver Age, something he aged past well before the 70s. Ultimately, Norman is a foil not for Spider-Man but for Peter Parker. Peter feels with great power comes great responsibility. He lives in constant disarray and angst bc of the wait of what he thinks he owes to the world. Norman doesn't think he owes the world anything. He has great power in numerous different ways and weilds it all without remorse. The only thing that holds Norman back is his absolute obsession with making Peter miserable. Implicit in this dynamic is a desire to destroy Peter's heroic nature
I get giving the point to Scarecrow over Mysterio, but one point I think is noteworthy is how Mysterio has had more notable stories with greater impact. Crane tends to get sidelined by other villains, even in other stories mostly about him, unlike Mysterio who even caused Wolverine to kill all of the X-Men in Old Man Logan
That's a good point! I didn't take into consideration at all how these villains worked against other heroes - after all it was Scarecrow's fear toxin (used by Joker) that make Superman kill Lois in the Injustice timeline.
That’s more of a writing problem then a scarecrow problem I think pastra talked about this scarecrow can be as good as the joker but he isn’t cause of the writers
@@LimitedEye you're kidding right? Scarecrow would make him trip balls. Mysterio's illusions aren't real. For scarecrow each person lives their nightmare, plus the only thing crane fears most is batman. He would wipe the absolute floor with that glorified scooby doo villian 😂
The one advantage that Spider-man's Rogues gallery has over Batman's, is villain teams. The Sinister Six is the most iconic villain team, Batman's usually have smaller team ups, and usually just use minions.
@@Pandemia616 Spider-Man being the most famous hero doesn’t automatically make the sinister six the most famous villain group. A whole generation grew up on seeing the Legion of Doom fighting the Superfriends on television. Sinister Six had a two parter in 90s spider-man and that’s it. You gotta read the comics to know who they are.
@jeremyfields9009 Sinister Six were the main villains of the most popular Spiderman game of all time and the most recent movie. The Legion haven't featured in any major media as an actual team in a long time.
This was a great video dude, and I think the results definitely make sense in the end. Although, I personally would've swapped Two Face for Mr. Freeze when going up against Connors. I just think they go way more in common. Their both scientists who are deep down good individuals, but circumstances usually beyond their own choices lead them down to villainy. But above all? Their each Batman & Spider-Man's most tragic villians, respectively. I mean ya, don't get me wrong I feel bad for Harvey but you can't tell me you feel more sympathy for him rather than the scientist whose only doing the things he's done to try and save his wife's life.
Batman has the best villains ever. I feel like the Lizard and Man-Bat have more in common because Man-Bat is trying to cure his deafness, and Lizard is trying to regrow his arm. Scarecrow also knows martial arts and created his own form known as "Violent Dancing" and has been able to stand up to Batman and also his prolonged exposer to his Fear Toxin caused him brain damage which has made him not able to be afraid of anything, except Batman.
@@oluwadamilola6233 He does. Only his villains are skilled in martial arts and are highly intelligent which makes them more realistic since most of them don't have powers.
Batman's villains are the most iconic in history. Every rogues gallery wishes they had what Batman has in the OG rogues and just the complex and rich dichotomy between Joker and Batman is in a league of its own.
I think it's a but unfair mentioning Superior Spider-man for Doc Ock but not mentioning Reformed Riddler where he tried to beat Batman at his own game to show he was smarter legally.
The Riddler is my favourite villain. it's a shame he's not used more. I love the fact that he's so clever he could solve near enough anything he wanted, but he only wants to PROVE he's the best, and the best is Batman.
I think you forgot a very good Bane story: Arkham Origins. It portrayed him as a big and intelligent threat, he played a giant part of the story and is easily his best adaptation since his introduction IMO
The problem with Riddler is often the question of how to show his intellect. Doc-Oc and other comic geniuses often show their intellect by delving into science fiction to create incredible inventions with no explanations as to how they work. But the Riddler is not a mad scientist, he's a plotter, and the only way for the Villain to plan a genius scheme is for the writer to plan a genius scheme.
25:00 this is soo good, makes you want to see a crossover to specifically see long conversations between Spidey and Joker. Batman and Green Goblin might be fun in a combat scenario, but in a writing scenario, Spidey vs Joker has so much potential
@@MrToonsy basically riddler had a mental snap then decided to just live is life as an untouchable person, if batman or any law enforcement touch him he eliminates their loved ones or in batmans case a random person he even blackmails the rest of gothams crime lords to pay him, batman kills riddler because their is no other choice the police or criminal world won't touch him and the only thing protecting him is batmans own code
Joker is honestly one of the best Batman villains, but I think he’s best when he’s brought in to shake up Batman’s routine. All his other villains are crazed and maniacal, but they’re all criminals and mob bosses with goals Batman can understand and as a detective, he can easily follow their schemes. Joker does what he wants, when he wants, with no pattern, all because he thinks it’s funny. It’s something Batman can’t comprehend, chaos for chaos sake. Whenever he thinks he understands the criminal underworld, Joker shows up to throw him off his game. It becomes less interesting if he’s behind everything in Gotham, like Batman exists to stop Joker when Joker should be there just to mess with Batman.
The way that I see it, Batman has the most popular villains, But Spider-Man has more popular villains. The few popular villains that Batman has, ridiculously popular. Spider-Man has a ton of memorable villains, They just tend to not come very close to Batman's
@@swampfire9382 Only joker for sure, joker is the first batman villain you think of when you think 'batman villain' and venom is the the first spiderman villain when you think 'spiderman villain' venom is definitely more popular than bane and scarecrow because venom is the main villain and bane/scarecrow are secondaries for the most part
The main difference between the two is most of Batman's villains are just different levels of psychopath but most of them don't have any actual superpowers. Most of Spider-Man's villains actually do have super powers
Great comparisons! Would definitely love to see a Part 2 in the future, as there are so many more villains that can be compared to one another. That being said, I would personally put Boomerang over Deadshot in this list, Fred's just way too cool, strutting around the streets with that getup like an absolute champ.
You're showdown between Batman and Spider-Man Villains was pretty interesting but here"s my perfect match ups for each of them: Bane Vs Kraven The Hunter Man-Bat Vs The Lizard Two-Face Vs Venom Riddler Vs Electro Penguin Vs Doc Oct Kingpin Vs Ra's Al Ghul Simon Hurt Vs Morlun
i definitley agree that joker is 100 percent a better villan than green goblin but i still think spiderman has the better villans overall, i wish characters like kraven, electro, and carnage wouldve made it in this video showing how good spiderman villans are
Spider-Man will always be my favorite superhero. However, I would have to give this to Batman. Both are amazing, but Joker honestly seals the deal (even though he is used too much).
@ I never said Spider-Man had bad villains. Also, the comics have a lot of good stories with many Spider-Man villains that the movies just haven’t been able to cover.
I was just thinking that. Both are villains that can't be fought blow for blow by their respective heroes. They have to be taken in out in more creative ways (for Rhino, at least, Bane fights tend to just boil down to cutting the venom tubes)
Respect for going the extra mile with this one. Both characters (batman and spider-man) have incredible villains (sometimes shit ones but most of the time they're leagues more interesting than most other rogues galleries) and both are really interesting characters as a whole. Both series have interesting storylines, both are interesting characters (especially when delving into their psychology and how their morals get tested against villains) and they're also characters that are easy to relate to on personal levels at times. You don't really get that with a lot of other comic heroes in the mainstream. These two feel like actual human beings with flaws and weaknesses to overcome whilst trying to be symbols of hope and safety. Characters like superman and all that have fun powers and sometimes have fun and decent stories, but in the grand scheme of things, batman and spider-man are characters you sort of feel like self inserts at times. That's what makes these characters so iconic and interesting. Decent comparisons of villains man. Nice job
As a long time, old ass jaded UA-cam watcher, this video needs a ton of work, but i dig it, and i am gonna subscribe so I can watch you grow into the potential. Keep up the good work
Spider-Man and Batman just have everything. The most iconic suits, the best villians, have great tv series in the 90s and 2000's and have a Trilogy in the 2000's that showed how great Comic Book movies can be. Not to mention have lots of hot babes in their life. Vicky Vale, Talia Al Ghul, Catwoman and Wonder Woman for Batman. Mary Jane/Spinneret, Gwen Stacy, Black Cat and Silk for Spider-Man. They both have a child with one of these women. Bruce has Damian Wayne with Talia and Peter has Anna May Parker/Spiderling with MJ. Yeah Spider-Man and Batman just have it all. It's no wonder why they are the most famous and inconic superhero of Marvel and DC respectively.
Before i even watch this video , batman has the best. His main villian has his own stand alone movies. So does venom but we know who’s more popular and well known. The joker himself beats out half of spidey’s rogues by popularity himself. Penguin, riddler and two face are just the icing on top.
Great video my man! I will say though, that The X Men have a pretty awesome list of villans as well. BUT the Fantastic Four has the Biggest and Baddest of them ALL, Dr. Doom!! Even in a world of villains... there is only DOOM!
I think the two of them swapping villains would be funny. Firstly they're both have the right skills and resources to help reform the more sympathetic villains in the other's rogue's gallery. Secondly fighting each-other's archenemies would be entertaining: two therapy-needing rich guys in Halloween costumes go head-to-head while a second-rate comedian encounters his biggest weakness-a heckler. Also Bane has had some great stories, they're just Bane stories rather than Batman stories (Secret Six, Arkham War).
Not putting Kraven here is crazy. I also would have done an extra character and put Mr. Negative in against someone. Or hell Deathstroke vs task master lol.
You really short changed Norman Osborne. He became president of the United States, replaced Shield with Hammer, and founded the Dark Avengers! He's more Lex Luther level than Joker! That being said I agree Joker is a better arch nemesis.
Your match up were cool but you should have done the lizard vs. Man bat I know but they may more since they have very similar goal and ideologies. Yeah really good video.
Morlun is an odd choice. He's an interesting villain, but there's so few stories involving him that he's not what I would consider a longstanding villain. I also think Kraven and Deathstroke should have been part of it, paired up. Although I'd admittedly have to likely give that to Deathstroke, I think they're both interesting. Electro would have also been a nice inclusion over Morlun.
Boo to the Hobgoblin slander! He's only been adapted once, thats why he's not as famous as Harley Quinn. In the comics he was the major villain for Spider-Man in one of the characters strongest eras, similar to Bane in that sense
the thing recent comics with scarecrow have really leaned into i enjoy is him being an evil therapist. he wants to figure people out, and he might even be interested in helping people under some circumstances (there is a fun comic where he is a therapist to a bullied teen girl and chooses to teach her to take revenge) but his worldview and all psychological theories revolve around fear and how it is the defining emotion and the actual motivation for anything anyone does
Green Goblin 😈 The Joker 🃏 The Lizard 🦎 Killer Croc 🐊 Sandman- Clayface The Kingpin- Bane Mr. Freeze 🥶 Blizzard 🌨️ Mysterio- Scarecrow Black Cat 🐈⬛ Catwoman The Chameleon- Hush 🤫
I feel like Bane has been sorta hamstrung as just a hulking brute. Have him be a warlord who fully conquered Santa Prisca, and uses his intellect and resources to monopolize the drug market. Bane should be less of a thug and more of a mob boss.
Would you make a part 2 of this video? This idea is very interesting, and I'm kinda curious how would you match up Kraven, Mad Hatter, Scorpion, Firefly and so on
Interesting video, I'd say part of the flip between Batman and Spider-Man, with Spidey, it is his life, and it all folds down to that, while with Batman, its about making sure what happened to him as a child never happens again to anyone else, thus Batman has a rather expansive feel in Gotham and DC comics, thus making his villains seem larger in scope. Spider-Man's villains will always circle back to informing on his struggles, his life, in some way.
I prefer Spider-Man’s rogues gallery because many of his villains have deep, personal vendettas not only against Spider-Man, but also Peter Parker. This dual connection makes their confrontations feel more intimate and impactful.
Great list, but I really wish you would have talked about the huge emotional impact scarecrow has on Batman in Arkham knight, the way Batman overcomes the fear toxin to realize that Batman doesn’t rely on the joker, like the joker does to Batman
OMG what's wrong with you obviously Big Wheel is better than Kite Man I mean can you even READ???!?!?!!!!!?!!
Condiment King victim
nah the wall is even better
@@VEGA_173 SO YOU HAVE CHOSEN.... DEATH!!!!!
Don’t disrespect Kite Man like that ever again……..
Well kite man got his own show
I'm amazed that, when trying to give reasons for why you matched Bane and Venom against eachother, you didn't bring up that both were played by Tom Hardy as a reason.
lmao great point
Or that they both use venom 😅
@@BWHERE
What about Carnage?
Ok
@@snippysilver8357 I did bring this one up
Batman vs Joker is pretty much the pinnacle of archenemies that all other fictional rivalries strive for
Ok
Green Goblin can tell if it’s Peter behind the mask or some cheap imitation
(Said Joker meant Green Goblin)
Nah, Joker should've died long time ago
It stems from Superman vs lex
@@yashJoshi-hn6bfnope. They both appeared in the same month.
The Joker is like how green hills zone is to sonic games
Why is this so right lol
And just like ghz he has a tendacy to overstay his welcome
😂😂😂😂😂
And just like green hill zone, he even appears where he isnt needed in the moment
I don’t know how you didn’t do Lizard and Man bat they not only are both scientists who turn them selves into creatures by accident but they have the same name
Kurt yeah that's funny. Langstrum and Conners.
@@laughslapproductions4690 Lizard is Kurt but Man Bat is Kirk so technically different
Man Bat doesn't seem that popular. Sure, people know who he is, but can they cite like a single specific storyline with him besides that jump scare in the videogame?
@piercemchugh4509 the first episode of the animated series was great, but he's not covered in media much. He'd make for a great horror villian in a movie if done right.
@@grant2736 *curtis
Flash does have a good rogues gallery, but I’d have to say third place goes to the X-Men. I mean, Magneto alone probably puts them in the conversation, but then there’s Apocalypse, Dark Phoenix, Mystique, Sabretooth, Deadpool and Emma Frost (started out as villains), Mojo, Bolivar Trask and his Sentinels, the Hellfire Club… I could go on and on.
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@@Dimelo.R Facts...Mags, Poc and Phoenix alone are soloing whole teams
Stryker...william Stryker
Sebastian shaw
Cassandra Nova was great too!
Because we all know that wolverine is the X-Men!
Batman has better superVILLAINS. Spider-Man has better SUPERvillains
Right! DUH! Dumb comparison
That's actually creative
Better powers vs better stories
Spider-Man have better villains and supervillains. Y'all act like Green Goblin is a super villain dude is like Lex but better 😂.
@ “Y’all act like Green Goblin is a super villain” Bro, he IS a super villain😂
In my opinion they both have iconic villains I can't choose I love them both equally.
He cooked with the joker and green goblin segment pointing out. They’re just twisted versions of each other heroes.🔥🔥🔥🔥
What I love about Batman’s rogues gallery is how they’re all aspects of Bruce is evil. Penguin is if Bruce used his inherited wealth for selfish means, Scarecrow uses fear to uses other people fear against them while Bruce embodies his own fear to fight for others, Mr. Freeze will kill for who he loves while Bruce knows it won’t help bring loved ones back along with tech, Riddler is someone who believes the smart should rule the world whilst batman believes it should educate, Joker wants people to embody their sadistic side while batman shows that there’s a healthy outlet for the darkness, the list goes on
Green Goblin is better and have one of the most iconic comic moment in comic history. Green Goblin killing Gwen Was never done in comics before nor in stories beforehand when Norman killed the love interest of the hero which was never done before.
@@laughtrack1426boring, typical villains. Spider-Man and overall marvel have more iconic and better villains.
@@blowc1612 I disagree. Each of Batman’s villains explore different aspects of his psychology. Marvel has a lot of great villains. I think Spider-Man has the best villains in marvel, but overall I prefer DC’s villains. Batman and Spider-Man equally have great rogues galleries, but I prefer how Batman’s again explores his worldview and their flaws. I don’t feel like Spider-Man’s villains do that to the same degree minus Doc Ock
I think Kraven the Hunter absolutely should have been up there, potecially as a repalcement for morlun. He is one of the most iconic and brutal spidy villains as well as having one of the most iconic story lines in Kraven's Last Hunt
Exactly!
Kraven should have been pit against Ra's
Yeah no shade but seems like a oversight using Morlun instead of him
@@astockimage6282he did that to bail out Batman to win
I personally would have switched Clayface and Mr. Freeze because he has a similar story to sandman and I think that would have been a more interesting matchup, but everything else was really cool and just an awesome video
It should have been Mr freeze Vs Doc Ock
Mr. Freeze is better
Honestly, I think lizard versus man bat would’ve made more sense
I agree.
Me too, but it would be too unfair.
@@sleep170Yeahbecajse man bot hasnothing on lizard.
Wouldn't man spider not be more suitable for man bat?
@@shadowmaydawn that’s just a mutated form of Spider-Man, not really a completely new villain, I get the comparison but I still prefer Lizard in this case
Another good match up would be Rhino vs Killer Croc.
Both animal themed brutes whose stature entirely overshadows the main character.
Id say killer croc vs lizard
@@Pomnitheclown he just said in the video why he didn’t do killer croc vs lizard 🤦♂️
@@Flahgybro ik i didn't reach that part of the video when i commented this
@@Flahgybro Sorry 🥺
I feel like bane would match kraven more
Agree
yeah definitely
Deathstoke would match Kraven waaaaaay more then Bane.
@@astronaut8917 what about taskmaster then
Lizard vs Man-Bat is a better comparison. They're both good doctors who tried to use science to help the world, by giving them animal attributes. But something went wrong & turned both of them into human/animal hybrids who the hero had to find a cure for.
Green Goblin is almost an amalgam of Joker, Bane and Lex Luthor. With a “trying to recreate the super soldier serum” origin added on. He’s a mega Corp CEO and Super Scientist with more money than most governments and personal beef with the Hero like Lex, but he’s also a friend killing sadist like the Joker. And hes more than physical match for Spiderman thanks to his super drugs and was able to figure out the Spiders Identity like Bane. I know that this is more to do with comic writers taking ideas from each other than anything but i still find it interesting.
I think I like Joker vs Batman more on an individual level with Peter vs Norman being close, but I like the way Green Goblin ties into the world as a whole a lot more than Joker.
That's true, Norman is a force in New York even when he's not being the Goblin. Joker is sort a like a parasite to Gotham, not as much a part of it.
@@BWHERE Agreed. Plus the way Norman takes over the Avengers and is a power to be reckoned with on Marvel Comics at large.
i see, but that isnt really that true, joker is the soul reason for the whole injustice universe, if you know what that is
@@asadhussain5642just something DC copied Marvel since Green Goblin was the first villain in comics history to kill off a heroes love interest. The way Marvel also has spiderman cope with it is far superior than how DC handled it.
Also, a fun story with Sandman is that for a while, Sandman had become a full-on hero. He was even a reserve member of the Avengers until the writers decided to go back to the status quo.
Same WITH carnage
@@yhorm1837carnage was a hero during that one event where everyone’s moralities were swapped. Tony was a huge a hole in that event.
And Sandman has been dull since.
As a makeshift hero, ye was interesting.
The way I always saw it is, Spider-Man has the cooler villains while Batman has the most narratively interesting villains.
Oh come on Batman has the cooler villains I mean which one of Spideys villains can compete with Mr. Freeze 😊
nah batmans villains are also cooler spider-man’s rogue is just more powerful
Batman villians are cooler and more interesting overall for sure.
So therefore Batman has the cooler villains.
@@tiggerbane4325 top 3 Batman Villain
I would have also done Mr. Negative against Mr. Freeze as both are the sympathetic villains
Oh yeah, they are both great! Contrasting how they both deal with revenge would be really interesting
yea and theyre both misters!
Appreciate going with matches based on parallels to their hero rather than superficial similarities
Penguin vs. Kingpin were great to compare!
Collin farrel as the penguin said I’ll be the new kingpin of Gotham
Ok
Using Morlun of all people seems like pulling from the C list barrel to give Bats the win.
Also I'd argue Supes has the 3rd best Rogues gallery simply because of Lex and Darkseid.
I definitely agree about the Morlun outta all ppl....I felt he coulda matched Kingpin to Ra's. also felt Bane coulda been matched to Rhino. I'd debate X-men as a franchise have the 3rd best because of Mags, Poc and Phoenix(even Proteus) but definitely Supe's rogue is Vicious
i thought it would be kraven tbh but he even said at the end morlun is basically kraven soooo 😭😭
Ok I could say the same for bringing clay face when there’s plenty of great choices thats still on the board even penguin who I love but there’s still Jason Todd court of owls poison ivy Mr freeze Harley Quinn hush Hugo strange mad hatter professor pyg I could keep going too Batman just has too many great rouges
@@ShelleyLevyMusic OOOH hugo strange could've been pared against mysterio. Not that scarecrow vs mysterio isn't a decent choice, but hugo strange does things in ways that nearly parallel mysterio (In that he screws with people without needing to physically attack them).
When was the last time superman even fought darjseid without the justice league
Ngl clayface in the Batman animated 2004 series was a sick character
Very very tough question. Gonna give it to Batman just by A tinyyyyyy bit
I did not expect your match ups or a lot of your winners - but you made a lot of intriguing points! Great stuff
Glad you enjoyed!
Thank you so much for pairing characters based on how they interact with the hero and not just pairing similarly powered people.
Keep doing these bro this was amazing
I appreciate that, thanks for watching!
I disagree with your description of Norman's motivations. The whole "beat Spider-Man to get credentials for a crime syndacate" thing was a brief initial motovation in the Silver Age, something he aged past well before the 70s.
Ultimately, Norman is a foil not for Spider-Man but for Peter Parker. Peter feels with great power comes great responsibility. He lives in constant disarray and angst bc of the wait of what he thinks he owes to the world. Norman doesn't think he owes the world anything. He has great power in numerous different ways and weilds it all without remorse. The only thing that holds Norman back is his absolute obsession with making Peter miserable. Implicit in this dynamic is a desire to destroy Peter's heroic nature
I get giving the point to Scarecrow over Mysterio, but one point I think is noteworthy is how Mysterio has had more notable stories with greater impact. Crane tends to get sidelined by other villains, even in other stories mostly about him, unlike Mysterio who even caused Wolverine to kill all of the X-Men in Old Man Logan
That's a good point! I didn't take into consideration at all how these villains worked against other heroes - after all it was Scarecrow's fear toxin (used by Joker) that make Superman kill Lois in the Injustice timeline.
Crane would destroy mysterio if they went up against each other
That’s more of a writing problem then a scarecrow problem I think pastra talked about this scarecrow can be as good as the joker but he isn’t cause of the writers
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@@LimitedEye you're kidding right? Scarecrow would make him trip balls. Mysterio's illusions aren't real. For scarecrow each person lives their nightmare, plus the only thing crane fears most is batman. He would wipe the absolute floor with that glorified scooby doo villian 😂
The one advantage that Spider-man's Rogues gallery has over Batman's, is villain teams. The Sinister Six is the most iconic villain team, Batman's usually have smaller team ups, and usually just use minions.
Fr Spiderman is like the only solo hero who's villains have to team up against him 😂
Legion of Doom is the most iconic villain team
@@jeremyfields9009 You might be right. Sinister Six is more famous though. Spiderman is the most popular hero by a landslide.
@@Pandemia616 Spider-Man being the most famous hero doesn’t automatically make the sinister six the most famous villain group. A whole generation grew up on seeing the Legion of Doom fighting the Superfriends on television. Sinister Six had a two parter in 90s spider-man and that’s it. You gotta read the comics to know who they are.
@jeremyfields9009 Sinister Six were the main villains of the most popular Spiderman game of all time and the most recent movie. The Legion haven't featured in any major media as an actual team in a long time.
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Thanks! I thought it turned out great
"The RIddle" is an amazing comic that focuses on The RIddle btw
I’ll have to check it out!
This was a great video dude, and I think the results definitely make sense in the end. Although, I personally would've swapped Two Face for Mr. Freeze when going up against Connors. I just think they go way more in common. Their both scientists who are deep down good individuals, but circumstances usually beyond their own choices lead them down to villainy. But above all? Their each Batman & Spider-Man's most tragic villians, respectively. I mean ya, don't get me wrong I feel bad for Harvey but you can't tell me you feel more sympathy for him rather than the scientist whose only doing the things he's done to try and save his wife's life.
Batman has the best villains ever. I feel like the Lizard and Man-Bat have more in common because Man-Bat is trying to cure his deafness, and Lizard is trying to regrow his arm. Scarecrow also knows martial arts and created his own form known as "Violent Dancing" and has been able to stand up to Batman and also his prolonged exposer to his Fear Toxin caused him brain damage which has made him not able to be afraid of anything, except Batman.
Bro said ever. Read more mediums
@@oluwadamilola6233 He does. Only his villains are skilled in martial arts and are highly intelligent which makes them more realistic since most of them don't have powers.
Batman's villains are the most iconic in history. Every rogues gallery wishes they had what Batman has in the OG rogues and just the complex and rich dichotomy between Joker and Batman is in a league of its own.
I think it's a but unfair mentioning Superior Spider-man for Doc Ock but not mentioning Reformed Riddler where he tried to beat Batman at his own game to show he was smarter legally.
The Riddler is my favourite villain. it's a shame he's not used more.
I love the fact that he's so clever he could solve near enough anything he wanted, but he only wants to PROVE he's the best, and the best is Batman.
Bret Hart was the best wrestler, Shawn Michaels was the best entertainer.
Batman has the best psychological villains, Spiderman has the most iconic.
But isn’t Mr Freeze more like Doc Ock? They’re both tragic scientists who were made evil by experiments gone wrong
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Batman V Spiderman villains rogues gallery
Joker obviously had to be the one to break the tie
I think you forgot a very good Bane story: Arkham Origins. It portrayed him as a big and intelligent threat, he played a giant part of the story and is easily his best adaptation since his introduction IMO
I'm hands down giving it to Doc Oct, but the War of Jokes and Riddles?!?! Come on man!! That was insane!!! (In a good way)
I actually prefer Spiderman villains as a whole, but theres no denying that Joker and Batman are the greatest hero/villain duo of all time.
Also Superman &lex
Yes , Batman's Rogues Gallery is #1 but Spider-Man's Rogues is #2 with The Flash's Rogues Gallery being a close #3.
Disagree. Batman's top end villains just edge out Spider-Man's, but Spiderman's B and C list villains outclass Batman's.
The problem with Riddler is often the question of how to show his intellect.
Doc-Oc and other comic geniuses often show their intellect by delving into science fiction to create incredible inventions with no explanations as to how they work. But the Riddler is not a mad scientist, he's a plotter, and the only way for the Villain to plan a genius scheme is for the writer to plan a genius scheme.
25:00 this is soo good, makes you want to see a crossover to specifically see long conversations between Spidey and Joker. Batman and Green Goblin might be fun in a combat scenario, but in a writing scenario, Spidey vs Joker has so much potential
another few good ones are kraven and deathstroke, morbius and man bat, hush and cameleon, you should really do a part 2 loved this video
There's one comic book of the riddler where he stops playing games, and batman killed him
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@@MrToonsy basically riddler had a mental snap then decided to just live is life as an untouchable person, if batman or any law enforcement touch him he eliminates their loved ones or in batmans case a random person he even blackmails the rest of gothams crime lords to pay him, batman kills riddler because their is no other choice the police or criminal world won't touch him and the only thing protecting him is batmans own code
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Joker is honestly one of the best Batman villains, but I think he’s best when he’s brought in to shake up Batman’s routine.
All his other villains are crazed and maniacal, but they’re all criminals and mob bosses with goals Batman can understand and as a detective, he can easily follow their schemes.
Joker does what he wants, when he wants, with no pattern, all because he thinks it’s funny. It’s something Batman can’t comprehend, chaos for chaos sake. Whenever he thinks he understands the criminal underworld, Joker shows up to throw him off his game. It becomes less interesting if he’s behind everything in Gotham, like Batman exists to stop Joker when Joker should be there just to mess with Batman.
As soon as I saw the last matchup I knew what the result of the video would be
22:35 peter called aunt may saying he loved her when he was already 6 days without resting and morlun wait for him to finish
Batmans rogues gallery is better..... the joker alone is top tier, but The Green Goblin is badass
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The way that I see it, Batman has the most popular villains, But Spider-Man has more popular villains. The few popular villains that Batman has, ridiculously popular. Spider-Man has a ton of memorable villains, They just tend to not come very close to Batman's
I mean, there's Venom... and Goblin is more popular than all Batman villains other than Joker I would say.
@@carlosm.sierra1465joker two face bane scarecrow are wayy more popular then venom bro is just carried by movies
@@swampfire9382 Only joker for sure, joker is the first batman villain you think of when you think 'batman villain' and venom is the the first spiderman villain when you think 'spiderman villain' venom is definitely more popular than bane and scarecrow because venom is the main villain and bane/scarecrow are secondaries for the most part
The main difference between the two is most of Batman's villains are just different levels of psychopath but most of them don't have any actual superpowers. Most of Spider-Man's villains actually do have super powers
Great comparisons! Would definitely love to see a Part 2 in the future, as there are so many more villains that can be compared to one another. That being said, I would personally put Boomerang over Deadshot in this list, Fred's just way too cool, strutting around the streets with that getup like an absolute champ.
You're showdown between Batman and Spider-Man Villains was pretty interesting but here"s my perfect match ups for each of them:
Bane Vs Kraven The Hunter
Man-Bat Vs The Lizard
Two-Face Vs Venom
Riddler Vs Electro
Penguin Vs Doc Oct
Kingpin Vs Ra's Al Ghul
Simon Hurt Vs Morlun
i definitley agree that joker is 100 percent a better villan than green goblin but i still think spiderman has the better villans overall, i wish characters like kraven, electro, and carnage wouldve made it in this video showing how good spiderman villans are
Spider-Man will always be my favorite superhero. However, I would have to give this to Batman.
Both are amazing, but Joker honestly seals the deal (even though he is used too much).
You should’ve named this list: “How my favorite Spider-Man villains will defeat Batman villains”.
I’d say Batman has the better villain roster. But as far as protagonists go, Spider-Man is a lot more interesting and relatable than Batman.
for me i disagreed with the mysterio-scarecrow, bane-venom, and penguin-kingpin but its mostly opinions good video
Interesting how you used mainly the Raimi-iterations for Spider-Man’s rogue’s gallery
Casual comic reader. Spider-Man have far better villains and it isn't close
@ I never said Spider-Man had bad villains. Also, the comics have a lot of good stories with many Spider-Man villains that the movies just haven’t been able to cover.
You should have done rhino vs bane great video though 👍🏽
I was just thinking that. Both are villains that can't be fought blow for blow by their respective heroes. They have to be taken in out in more creative ways (for Rhino, at least, Bane fights tend to just boil down to cutting the venom tubes)
These videos are amazing
Thank you!
I find it very funny that one of the most requested roles for Willem Dafoe is the joker.
Respect for going the extra mile with this one.
Both characters (batman and spider-man) have incredible villains (sometimes shit ones but most of the time they're leagues more interesting than most other rogues galleries) and both are really interesting characters as a whole. Both series have interesting storylines, both are interesting characters (especially when delving into their psychology and how their morals get tested against villains) and they're also characters that are easy to relate to on personal levels at times. You don't really get that with a lot of other comic heroes in the mainstream. These two feel like actual human beings with flaws and weaknesses to overcome whilst trying to be symbols of hope and safety. Characters like superman and all that have fun powers and sometimes have fun and decent stories, but in the grand scheme of things, batman and spider-man are characters you sort of feel like self inserts at times. That's what makes these characters so iconic and interesting.
Decent comparisons of villains man. Nice job
I absolutely agree with every choice. Great video
As a long time, old ass jaded UA-cam watcher, this video needs a ton of work, but i dig it, and i am gonna subscribe so I can watch you grow into the potential. Keep up the good work
great match ups
Thanks!
Kite Man vs Big Wheel is no competition, Big Wheel is Spider-Man's #1 villain of all time.
Spider-Man and Batman just have everything. The most iconic suits, the best villians, have great tv series in the 90s and 2000's and have a Trilogy in the 2000's that showed how great Comic Book movies can be. Not to mention have lots of hot babes in their life.
Vicky Vale, Talia Al Ghul, Catwoman and Wonder Woman for Batman. Mary Jane/Spinneret, Gwen Stacy, Black Cat and Silk for Spider-Man. They both have a child with one of these women. Bruce has Damian Wayne with Talia and Peter has Anna May Parker/Spiderling with MJ.
Yeah Spider-Man and Batman just have it all. It's no wonder why they are the most famous and inconic superhero of Marvel and DC respectively.
But Superman>>>both Batman &spidey
If Goblin and Joker fought, Goblin would wear the Jokers skin like a full body suit.
Hey nice suit Norman, nice suit, didn’t know you like purple vests. You don’t?
Best Sets Of Comparisons
Before i even watch this video , batman has the best. His main villian has his own stand alone movies. So does venom but we know who’s more popular and well known. The joker himself beats out half of spidey’s rogues by popularity himself. Penguin, riddler and two face are just the icing on top.
Great video my man!
I will say though, that The X Men have a pretty awesome list of villans as well.
BUT the Fantastic Four has the Biggest and Baddest of them ALL,
Dr. Doom!!
Even in a world of villains... there is only DOOM!
I think the two of them swapping villains would be funny. Firstly they're both have the right skills and resources to help reform the more sympathetic villains in the other's rogue's gallery. Secondly fighting each-other's archenemies would be entertaining: two therapy-needing rich guys in Halloween costumes go head-to-head while a second-rate comedian encounters his biggest weakness-a heckler.
Also Bane has had some great stories, they're just Bane stories rather than Batman stories (Secret Six, Arkham War).
As a Frenchman, I wasn't ready for the way you spelled Femme Fatale 😂
Not putting Kraven here is crazy. I also would have done an extra character and put Mr. Negative in against someone. Or hell Deathstroke vs task master lol.
When have spider-man and taskmaster even interacted
Fun fact, there is a comic that says that Doc Ock and Tony Stark went to the same college
You really short changed Norman Osborne. He became president of the United States, replaced Shield with Hammer, and founded the Dark Avengers! He's more Lex Luther level than Joker! That being said I agree Joker is a better arch nemesis.
Great video.
Thanks!
Your match up were cool but you should have done the lizard vs. Man bat I know but they may more since they have very similar goal and ideologies. Yeah really good video.
I agree with everything you said, but don't forget about how much of an influence cobblepot had on Bruce when it was the telltale series
I think if you read Riddler - One Bad Day. It really shows what you can do with the riddler and a perfect example of him outsmarting Batman
Morlun is an odd choice. He's an interesting villain, but there's so few stories involving him that he's not what I would consider a longstanding villain. I also think Kraven and Deathstroke should have been part of it, paired up. Although I'd admittedly have to likely give that to Deathstroke, I think they're both interesting. Electro would have also been a nice inclusion over Morlun.
Boo to the Hobgoblin slander!
He's only been adapted once, thats why he's not as famous as Harley Quinn. In the comics he was the major villain for Spider-Man in one of the characters strongest eras, similar to Bane in that sense
Highly highly disagree with Joker/Green Goblin, but respect to a very well made video!!
the thing recent comics with scarecrow have really leaned into i enjoy is him being an evil therapist. he wants to figure people out, and he might even be interested in helping people under some circumstances (there is a fun comic where he is a therapist to a bullied teen girl and chooses to teach her to take revenge) but his worldview and all psychological theories revolve around fear and how it is the defining emotion and the actual motivation for anything anyone does
Green Goblin 😈 The Joker 🃏
The Lizard 🦎 Killer Croc 🐊
Sandman- Clayface
The Kingpin- Bane
Mr. Freeze 🥶 Blizzard 🌨️
Mysterio- Scarecrow
Black Cat 🐈⬛ Catwoman
The Chameleon- Hush 🤫
No Kraven is disrespectful
I feel like Bane has been sorta hamstrung as just a hulking brute. Have him be a warlord who fully conquered Santa Prisca, and uses his intellect and resources to monopolize the drug market. Bane should be less of a thug and more of a mob boss.
I’m biased because I’m a dc/joker fanatic but I always said Batam and Spider-Man has the best villains on paper and big screen
Batman has the better villains... if DC remembered he has more than Joker, Harley, Bane, Riddler, Two-Face and Penguin, at least.
Would you make a part 2 of this video? This idea is very interesting, and I'm kinda curious how would you match up Kraven, Mad Hatter, Scorpion, Firefly and so on
Maybe! They both have a lot of other great villains
Interesting video, I'd say part of the flip between Batman and Spider-Man, with Spidey, it is his life, and it all folds down to that, while with Batman, its about making sure what happened to him as a child never happens again to anyone else, thus Batman has a rather expansive feel in Gotham and DC comics, thus making his villains seem larger in scope. Spider-Man's villains will always circle back to informing on his struggles, his life, in some way.
Not even gonna watch the video, obviously Spider-Man.
Why? Well, one word.
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I prefer Spider-Man’s rogues gallery because many of his villains have deep, personal vendettas not only against Spider-Man, but also Peter Parker. This dual connection makes their confrontations feel more intimate and impactful.
Great list, but I really wish you would have talked about the huge emotional impact scarecrow has on Batman in Arkham knight, the way Batman overcomes the fear toxin to realize that Batman doesn’t rely on the joker, like the joker does to Batman
Lizard and man bat would be better, still great video
This needs more likes
Thank you!