Not to mention, Spider-Man would throw off Homelander by merely making fun of him. Homelander would lose his shit and thus fight more angrily and less focused.
Homelander meatrider 26357: "But he can survive a nuclear bomb, Peter can't hit on the same power as a nuclear bomb." Also Homelander: Bleeds from getting hit by Queen Maeve
I thought Peter was nerfed because of his feelings after losing aunt may. This makes sense because miles and Martin Li goes inside Peter and sees all of Peter’s pain.
@@shantaehalf-geniehero4318Tobey is my favorite live action spider-man so believe me when i tell you, that Tobeys Peter also lost his powers because he mentally wasn’t the best. So it can be an excuse.
Didn’t even need to bring up the fact he has anti-venom. Peter scales much higher in terms of speed, iq, and combat skills/experience. Strength is the only debate but Peter has greater feats in that area. I’d also give Homelander the edge in durability, but with his iron arms, gadgets and anti-venom Peter has enough hacks to take him down.
@andrej0273 it definetely can hurt him. It's a laser that go through metal buildings everything. Peter can die from normal bullets. The laser could be deadly if he isn't serious
@jasonblack2477 Well in the spiderman 2 prequal comic his suit is bulletproof. But either way peter can tank extreme temps like electros lighting. And he just outscales the laser by a lot
@@jayyy1677oh wow a strength feat.... What will spiderman do. A trains top speed while amped by V was like mach 1.06 i think lol. Also miles in his first game moved like thosands of tons (small part of a bridge)
I am glad that you didn't put Homelander up against MCU Iron Man or Comics Iron Patriot because that would even be more of a stomp. What do you think the next VS video should be?
1:43 keep in mind, a regular woman survived this too. Considering Noir got half fried from a small building sized explosion and a car, it's entirely possible he simply found cover, since he set up Homelander to blow up the factory in the first place
@TheGamingRift11, I'm just debunking the people who scale Homelanders punches to him one-shotting Noir because I know this video will get those comments. I should have specified I wasn't talking about Homer's durability lol Edit: also spot on video. Keep up the good work 😎
SpiderGoat negs, case closed. What's hilarious though is that Peter would absolutely talk 💩 about Homelander, dodge his attacks while mocking him, and constantly go on and on about how much of a fraud he is. And, how he would school him in the basics of what actually makes a hero- well, an ACTUAL HERO- while webbing him up and chaining him into a 99 hit air combo. Great vid 😂
It hasn’t been proven to be light speed, but it could be a highball argument, just not an entirely consistent one. He would need all the speed arguments he could get against most versions of Spider-Man
@@buggerboogusDoesn’t matter if Spiderman can see it coming with Spider senses. As Spidermans consistency has him dodging attacks from foes beyond faster than Homelander consistently.
@@TyroneMaxrias consider it done 😌 Can you do me a favour? Join the discord server and ping me when I make a Miles video? Then I can give you a shoutout for the suggestion
@TheGamingRift11 Damn bro im pretty sure youre the first person ive seen with this type of content actually shouting out people for a suggestion, good shit man thats a sub lmao
I think this was about what I expected. I honestly think homelander isn’t as strong as some statements in his verse make it seem. U expect me to believe that nukes do nothing to a guy that gets rocked by punches that don’t even completely bust a file cabinet? And you can’t even try to use holding back as an excuse cause queen Maeve was actually trying to kill him. Hell the explosion from soldier boy that was said to mean death for homelander was barely a few floors wide compared to the building she flung them out of…but somehow he can no sell a nuke? Get outta here, I think it may have been exaggerated to add to homelanders persona like you suggested.
What if I told you that the settings Homelander fought at were amped? Think about it: they were made with supes in mind, for supes. Of course they would be more durable than normal buildings. Maeve survived Soldier Boy’s blast without severe injury. Homelander could too. The problem is that the blast would fry the compound V out of him. He can’t no sell a nuke tho. Stillwell’s statement was “there isn’t a weapon on earth they haven’t thrown at him. They all failed.” Homelander is fast enough to avoid getting hit by nuke. She didn’t say he withstood a nuclear blast. Most likely if they even tested a nuke for him (which is skeptical since Vought and the military were at odds with each other) he flew away from it. It’s notable that Butcher said an H bomb was needed to kill Soldier Boy
@TheGamingRift Could you also do similar like versus between MCU Spider-Man after no way home vs Captain America and Black Panther and where they scale, along with different mcu characters? I like this concept. Thanks W video
No one's as powerful as Squirrel Girl. Prove me wrong. (Her superpower is to beat the biggest threats (like Thanos in the Marvel comics off-screen, for those who don't know her which for a long time included me. She was kind of a gag character back then)
@LastGoatKnightpretty much any character able to break the fourth wall in a way of turning a page or something and is physically stronger than her wins. They can just turn to the page after the off screen gag happens, pretty much stopping her only/best power
Isn’t Homelander, like, human? I know he’s superhuman, but he can age, he’s BEEN hurt before by punches from a Suped up Butcher & enraged Soldier Boy. Spider-Man’s also pretty strong, and I’d argue he would definitely have more than a chance against Homelander, considering he’s got tech that would more than likely throw him off & beat him. EDIT: I do not agree with the levels of these 2 characters stand that you claim, but I do agree with Spider-Man still beating Homelander.
So all the bullets and cars in Marvel Spider-Man are moving at light speed? This power break down doesn’t make sense. Homelander is definitely bulletproof while Spider man is not. The game has you chasing down vehicles. If Pete is hyper sonic wouldn’t he be able to just run after the cars instead of swinging after them. Pete struggled to free Tombstone from the cage the hunters placed him in. It’s a disservice to Spider-Man to say at baseline Spider-Man is stronger than Homelander.
The only difficult thing Spiderman is struggling is holding back and not trying to accidentally killing him and also let's not forget the fact that Homelander could threaten to speed blitz or laser the civilian, making it hard for Spiderman. Homelander doesn't need to be stronger than Spiderman, all he needs is to kill a innocent civilian then he wins because even if Spiderman does beat him, he still failed to save innocent lives. So Spiderman needs to be a little serious to take down Homelander as fast as possible. (My opinion, you can always correct me if I'm wrong.)
This is definitely accurate but it's ultimately a slight change in the outcome. If Homelander doesn't kill anyone, Spidey still wins just with a fair amount more effort. If Homelander kills an innocent, The fight will be significantly shorter because an angry Spiderman is one of the last things you want gunning for you even if you're technically stronger (which Homelander isn't) a lot of current spiderman media oversells Spidey not killing people which is technically inaccurate. Pete prefers not to kill, but if you piss him off bad enough he will kill you without a second thought.
I'm sorry but this just doesn't work. For the holding back part, while it might be a factor for like a minute, Peter is gonna figure out pretty quickly how hard he can safely hit Homelander. As for Homelander threatening to kill people, Maeve was able to stop him from going after anyone in the s3 finale and she is weaker than Homelander. So Peter who is stronger, faster, smarter, more skilled and better equipped than Homelander and Queen Maeve combined will have no issue.
That's something Homelander REALLY doesn't want to do. Last thing he would need is a pissed off Spider-man. Even Pete's greatest enemies know it's going to be a bad day if Spidey is silent and not making jokes.
@@TheGamingRift11 how would Spiderman get up to him? Spiderman cant fly. all Homelander would need to do is fly wayyy above any buildings that Spidey could use and spam lasers from there. Spidey could dodge them for a while until he get tired from all that effort of jumping around, moving his entire body. while all Homelander is doing is being completely still
@@madmannn9576 I could just spin this around on you What on earth is Homelander gunna do if he stays up in the air? Heat vision? Peter can dodge it with ease? Flying and trying to blitz him? Not gunna work Throwing things at him like cars or whatever? Ineffective Sooner or later a fragile egod manchild like Homelander is gunna get enraged and try go in for the kill as he’s done in universe many times, and that’s gunna be a GG…. The only possible way that scenario would even work, is if the fight took place in the country, and even then it would be a stalemate as Homelander has no possible way of beating Spiderman Case closed
Electro was never stated to generate one million volts, only that, at his absolute peak, he would be capable of storing that much energy. There is no proof that electro has ever done it, only that peter believes him to be capable of that. Peter used the Environment against rhino and had to attack the fragile alliance of scorpion and rhino to beat them. He didn't even knock them out, he won by outsmarting them. We even see a healthy peter getting nearly killed by rhino and peter admitting that rhino is stronger than him to miles. The way in which rhino destroyed the city blocks is also very vague, and we have no idea how long it took him. Sandman doesn't necessarily scale to his sand storms. All he does is throw the sand around, it doesn't mean that he can hit that hard. Otto says that the arms can receive signals in under a nanosecond, not that they can move that fast. Just because peter held hammerhead down doesn't mean that he can dodge a literal laser. An implication is also nowhere near a fact.
@@djb9267 sable said hammerhead would dodge the laser hence why peter had to hold him down. And peter using objects to beat rhino is pure gameplay not canon. And in that case all the objects do is stun rhino the rest of the damage os done by peters strengths. Ottos transmission speeds between his brain and arms is under one nano second and sometimes otto was not able to react to peter. Meaning peter overcame that reaction speed of otto. And electro was stated to “burn” himself out with his electricity when he was weaker meaning he stored more than a million volts which is his supposed limit and peter states he had almost killed me by turning me into a shish kabob. And he easily over charged a super generator. Plus for the city block rhino feat i agree with you but either way rhino has been stated to have impenetrable armor and near impervious to harm armor multiple times and considering where the term “unbreakable” lies in the verse it could very well mean nuclear explosions. And also in the video it failed to mention peter creating literal shockwaves throughout harlem. He mentioned it in the insom vs arkham batman vid so u can check there
Using a video game to scale characters powers is not a smart decision. Game mechanics and trying to tell a story get in the way from the actual lore and cannon comic book feats.
I hate it when people say Miles solos Peter he doesn't, and people use the fact even symbiote Peter couldn't beat him, 1. Symbiote amplifies rage and rage makes the person not think correctly,2. It's a game, obviously the games gonna give u a way to win, and 3. evem then I can bet you he was holding back, and he was mostly using webs not hand to hand. And 4. It sounded like symbiote was the one fighting ,not peter. (Also the Spider-Verse wouldve went so different if it wasn't full of bull shit, that miles wouldve gotten and should've gotten bodied by every Spider-Man in there but obviously miles wouldn't have a story if they didn't make almost every Spider-Man stupid asf and goofy)
Not to mention, Spider-Man would throw off Homelander by merely making fun of him. Homelander would lose his shit and thus fight more angrily and less focused.
Yo sk what's up
Spider-Man: News flash Blondie, there's already a Captain America
Homelander: I WILL FUCKING LASER YOU
No joke it'd be that simple
SK!
Sup
@ath477 sup
Hydrogen spider vs coughing test tube baby
😂
Homelander meatrider 26357: "But he can survive a nuclear bomb, Peter can't hit on the same power as a nuclear bomb."
Also Homelander: Bleeds from getting hit by Queen Maeve
@@Just_Man_616 also if they bring up comics key word if it's not looking good for homelander either
And maybe Maeve can hit harder than a nuke
@@clonetrooper2782lol definitely not
Homelander can take nukes Maeve can make him bleed so her punches have the same energy as a nuke
@@clonetrooper2782 no proof of him taking nukes lol only a shit statement
I thought Peter was nerfed because of his feelings after losing aunt may. This makes sense because miles and Martin Li goes inside Peter and sees all of Peter’s pain.
No excuse there when Tobey lost his uncle Ben
@@shantaehalf-geniehero4318 it's a goddamn game lmao
@@shantaehalf-geniehero4318Insomniac Peter had more to deal with
That could make sense
@@shantaehalf-geniehero4318Tobey is my favorite live action spider-man so believe me when i tell you, that Tobeys Peter also lost his powers because he mentally wasn’t the best. So it can be an excuse.
Didn’t even need to bring up the fact he has anti-venom. Peter scales much higher in terms of speed, iq, and combat skills/experience. Strength is the only debate but Peter has greater feats in that area. I’d also give Homelander the edge in durability, but with his iron arms, gadgets and anti-venom Peter has enough hacks to take him down.
Peter would win but the laser could take him down
Oh yeah, he didnt even anti-venom
@@jasonblack2477it cant really hurt him + can dodge
@andrej0273 it definetely can hurt him. It's a laser that go through metal buildings everything. Peter can die from normal bullets. The laser could be deadly if he isn't serious
@jasonblack2477 Well in the spiderman 2 prequal comic his suit is bulletproof. But either way peter can tank extreme temps like electros lighting. And he just outscales the laser by a lot
How the fight would be
Batman kicking electrecutiner
The chemical plant explosion was recalculated to city block btw and i highly doubt the tsar bomba statement
What if I told you that Butcher said an h bomb was needed to kill soldier boy who is weaker than homelander?
@@AdaptedInfiltrator as if buthcer or infact anyone has even tested that. Literally there is no proof besides a shit statement
@@AdaptedInfiltratorso h bomb killed him according to butcher.... So he wouldnt scale to it
W video. Can you do Metal sonic vs metal cooler
This isn't even a fight, Spider-Man no dif Homelander and the Boys
I doubt that
Can’t even beat A train even, someone trained by attaching a train to their back and walking
@@jayyy1677oh wow a strength feat.... What will spiderman do. A trains top speed while amped by V was like mach 1.06 i think lol. Also miles in his first game moved like thosands of tons (small part of a bridge)
@@Marvelfanatic3658he one shots them all if he wants to
he didn’t even include peter’s new anti venom attacks giving him boosted speed and rage attacks
That is just overkill at this point
The attacks are shown to be effective against symbiotes only, so that wouldn't do much. He's still way stronger tho.
This is excellently made
Good video rift
I am glad that you didn't put Homelander up against MCU Iron Man or Comics Iron Patriot because that would even be more of a stomp. What do you think the next VS video should be?
I’ll give you a hint….. one of the fighters is gunna be Mr Incredible
1:43 keep in mind, a regular woman survived this too. Considering Noir got half fried from a small building sized explosion and a car, it's entirely possible he simply found cover, since he set up Homelander to blow up the factory in the first place
@@dudewithachannel1163 I mean homelander took it point blank with no cover. So I get what you mean but it would apply to homelander regardless
@TheGamingRift11, I'm just debunking the people who scale Homelanders punches to him one-shotting Noir because I know this video will get those comments. I should have specified I wasn't talking about Homer's durability lol
Edit: also spot on video. Keep up the good work 😎
Spider-man stomps
Fax.Homelander ain't strong
Thats right puffer,you would neg diff homelander, and the whole verse.
Uhh he is though? Just because he can be beat by other characters, didn't mean he's not strong.
@@Marvelfanatic3658Dude try finding characters in fiction with powers that Homelander can beat.
@@ZackSNetwork Everyone in the boys. any Spiderman villains, Batman villains
SpiderGoat negs, case closed. What's hilarious though is that Peter would absolutely talk 💩 about Homelander, dodge his attacks while mocking him, and constantly go on and on about how much of a fraud he is. And, how he would school him in the basics of what actually makes a hero- well, an ACTUAL HERO- while webbing him up and chaining him into a 99 hit air combo. Great vid 😂
Facts
@@ZackSNetworkhomelander is just a walking KD booster.
Insom kraven vs arkham batman when
Saying Homelander's heat vision was light speed was enough for me to click off.
@@blueblade6174 it most likely is.
@faizanahmed8561 no
It hasn’t been proven to be light speed, but it could be a highball argument, just not an entirely consistent one. He would need all the speed arguments he could get against most versions of Spider-Man
@@blueblade6174sounds like a you problem
@@buggerboogusDoesn’t matter if Spiderman can see it coming with Spider senses. As Spidermans consistency has him dodging attacks from foes beyond faster than Homelander consistently.
And people say insom peter isnt strong 😂, oh and BTW puffer neg diffs both characters and their verse.
Ism't he city lvl?
i find it funny u never bring the black suit in this lol
Dude, Mercenary Tao could kick Homelanders ass
Movie sonic vs decu flash
Absolutely right, Insomnaic Spider-Man outclasses Homelander, I would say no holding back Spider-Man would scale to Mountain level.
@@hitendhir9700 possibly even higher
@@TheGamingRift11 Yes could be maybe we will see exact in 3rd game but easily he is city level
Can we see some Miles Morales vs Content. I want people to see how powerful he is and you're the best at insomniac stuff
@@TyroneMaxrias consider it done 😌
Can you do me a favour? Join the discord server and ping me when I make a Miles video? Then I can give you a shoutout for the suggestion
@TheGamingRift11 Damn bro im pretty sure youre the first person ive seen with this type of content actually shouting out people for a suggestion, good shit man thats a sub lmao
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Is there anything you’d suggest to improve?
I think this was about what I expected. I honestly think homelander isn’t as strong as some statements in his verse make it seem. U expect me to believe that nukes do nothing to a guy that gets rocked by punches that don’t even completely bust a file cabinet? And you can’t even try to use holding back as an excuse cause queen Maeve was actually trying to kill him. Hell the explosion from soldier boy that was said to mean death for homelander was barely a few floors wide compared to the building she flung them out of…but somehow he can no sell a nuke? Get outta here, I think it may have been exaggerated to add to homelanders persona like you suggested.
Plus, I think most of these statements come from Vought, who aren't that reliable to begin with.
What if I told you that the settings Homelander fought at were amped? Think about it: they were made with supes in mind, for supes. Of course they would be more durable than normal buildings. Maeve survived Soldier Boy’s blast without severe injury. Homelander could too. The problem is that the blast would fry the compound V out of him. He can’t no sell a nuke tho. Stillwell’s statement was “there isn’t a weapon on earth they haven’t thrown at him. They all failed.” Homelander is fast enough to avoid getting hit by nuke. She didn’t say he withstood a nuclear blast. Most likely if they even tested a nuke for him (which is skeptical since Vought and the military were at odds with each other) he flew away from it. It’s notable that Butcher said an H bomb was needed to kill Soldier Boy
@TheGamingRift Could you also do similar like versus between MCU Spider-Man after no way home vs Captain America and Black Panther and where they scale, along with different mcu characters?
I like this concept.
Thanks
W video
Dude, I love Spidey, but he's seriously outclassed here.
@@AllDayErrDay. by all means let’s debate the topic sometime
@TheGamingRift11 I'd be down for that.
Is EGGMAN playing in the background? If it is that's hilarious cause i was just playing it like two minutes ago before the video uploaded
What Do You Guys Think??
No one's as powerful as Squirrel Girl. Prove me wrong.
(Her superpower is to beat the biggest threats (like Thanos in the Marvel comics off-screen, for those who don't know her which for a long time included me. She was kind of a gag character back then)
@LastGoatKnightpretty much any character able to break the fourth wall in a way of turning a page or something and is physically stronger than her wins. They can just turn to the page after the off screen gag happens, pretty much stopping her only/best power
Please do sonic vs mario
Good video, but base Peter doesn’t scale to Miles. Symbiote/anti venom does.
I’m pretty sure that’s just part of him now though
I never said he scales to PS5 Miles
I said he should scale to the weaker miles in his solo game
@@TheGamingRift11 Also why didn't you include anti-venom?
Isn’t Homelander, like, human? I know he’s superhuman, but he can age, he’s BEEN hurt before by punches from a Suped up Butcher & enraged Soldier Boy. Spider-Man’s also pretty strong, and I’d argue he would definitely have more than a chance against Homelander, considering he’s got tech that would more than likely throw him off & beat him.
EDIT: I do not agree with the levels of these 2 characters stand that you claim, but I do agree with Spider-Man still beating Homelander.
So all the bullets and cars in Marvel Spider-Man are moving at light speed? This power break down doesn’t make sense. Homelander is definitely bulletproof while Spider man is not. The game has you chasing down vehicles. If Pete is hyper sonic wouldn’t he be able to just run after the cars instead of swinging after them. Pete struggled to free Tombstone from the cage the hunters placed him in. It’s a disservice to Spider-Man to say at baseline Spider-Man is stronger than Homelander.
The only difficult thing Spiderman is struggling is holding back and not trying to accidentally killing him and also let's not forget the fact that Homelander could threaten to speed blitz or laser the civilian, making it hard for Spiderman.
Homelander doesn't need to be stronger than Spiderman, all he needs is to kill a innocent civilian then he wins because even if Spiderman does beat him, he still failed to save innocent lives. So Spiderman needs to be a little serious to take down Homelander as fast as possible.
(My opinion, you can always correct me if I'm wrong.)
This is definitely accurate but it's ultimately a slight change in the outcome.
If Homelander doesn't kill anyone, Spidey still wins just with a fair amount more effort.
If Homelander kills an innocent, The fight will be significantly shorter because an angry Spiderman is one of the last things you want gunning for you even if you're technically stronger (which Homelander isn't) a lot of current spiderman media oversells Spidey not killing people which is technically inaccurate. Pete prefers not to kill, but if you piss him off bad enough he will kill you without a second thought.
I'm sorry but this just doesn't work.
For the holding back part, while it might be a factor for like a minute, Peter is gonna figure out pretty quickly how hard he can safely hit Homelander.
As for Homelander threatening to kill people, Maeve was able to stop him from going after anyone in the s3 finale and she is weaker than Homelander. So Peter who is stronger, faster, smarter, more skilled and better equipped than Homelander and Queen Maeve combined will have no issue.
That's something Homelander REALLY doesn't want to do. Last thing he would need is a pissed off Spider-man. Even Pete's greatest enemies know it's going to be a bad day if Spidey is silent and not making jokes.
The second HL threatens a civilian its over for him.
whats Spiderman gonna do when Homelander flies a 1000ft into the sky and lasers him?
@@madmannn9576 dodge the laser effortless and fight him in the air?
Since he fought villains in a 1v2 in the air
@@TheGamingRift11 how would Spiderman get up to him? Spiderman cant fly. all Homelander would need to do is fly wayyy above any buildings that Spidey could use and spam lasers from there. Spidey could dodge them for a while until he get tired from all that effort of jumping around, moving his entire body. while all Homelander is doing is being completely still
Slingshot is all I gotta say
@@evansellers5205 it can only send him so far
@@madmannn9576 I could just spin this around on you
What on earth is Homelander gunna do if he stays up in the air?
Heat vision? Peter can dodge it with ease?
Flying and trying to blitz him? Not gunna work
Throwing things at him like cars or whatever? Ineffective
Sooner or later a fragile egod manchild like Homelander is gunna get enraged and try go in for the kill as he’s done in universe many times, and that’s gunna be a GG….
The only possible way that scenario would even work, is if the fight took place in the country, and even then it would be a stalemate as Homelander has no possible way of beating Spiderman
Case closed
Electro was never stated to generate one million volts, only that, at his absolute peak, he would be capable of storing that much energy. There is no proof that electro has ever done it, only that peter believes him to be capable of that.
Peter used the Environment against rhino and had to attack the fragile alliance of scorpion and rhino to beat them. He didn't even knock them out, he won by outsmarting them. We even see a healthy peter getting nearly killed by rhino and peter admitting that rhino is stronger than him to miles. The way in which rhino destroyed the city blocks is also very vague, and we have no idea how long it took him.
Sandman doesn't necessarily scale to his sand storms. All he does is throw the sand around, it doesn't mean that he can hit that hard.
Otto says that the arms can receive signals in under a nanosecond, not that they can move that fast.
Just because peter held hammerhead down doesn't mean that he can dodge a literal laser. An implication is also nowhere near a fact.
EXCELLENT THE GAMING RIFT WORK.
I agree with everything else except Rhino,peter wasn't even trying to fight him because he needed to rescue the civilians
I disagree about Rhino. Peter wasn’t trying to fight him and was luring him away from the civilians.
@@djb9267 sable said hammerhead would dodge the laser hence why peter had to hold him down. And peter using objects to beat rhino is pure gameplay not canon. And in that case all the objects do is stun rhino the rest of the damage os done by peters strengths. Ottos transmission speeds between his brain and arms is under one nano second and sometimes otto was not able to react to peter. Meaning peter overcame that reaction speed of otto. And electro was stated to “burn” himself out with his electricity when he was weaker meaning he stored more than a million volts which is his supposed limit and peter states he had almost killed me by turning me into a shish kabob. And he easily over charged a super generator. Plus for the city block rhino feat i agree with you but either way rhino has been stated to have impenetrable armor and near impervious to harm armor multiple times and considering where the term “unbreakable” lies in the verse it could very well mean nuclear explosions. And also in the video it failed to mention peter creating literal shockwaves throughout harlem. He mentioned it in the insom vs arkham batman vid so u can check there
Using a video game to scale characters powers is not a smart decision. Game mechanics and trying to tell a story get in the way from the actual lore and cannon comic book feats.
I hate it when people say Miles solos Peter he doesn't, and people use the fact even symbiote Peter couldn't beat him, 1. Symbiote amplifies rage and rage makes the person not think correctly,2. It's a game, obviously the games gonna give u a way to win, and 3. evem then I can bet you he was holding back, and he was mostly using webs not hand to hand. And 4. It sounded like symbiote was the one fighting ,not peter. (Also the Spider-Verse wouldve went so different if it wasn't full of bull shit, that miles wouldve gotten and should've gotten bodied by every Spider-Man in there but obviously miles wouldn't have a story if they didn't make almost every Spider-Man stupid asf and goofy)
I mean miles beats base Peter but in a fair fight he would lose to symbiote Peter and anti venom
Base peter would get punched into a school locker by miles, but Symbiote/Anti-Venom would beat him.