Huge restart crash at Brands Hatch 1988

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  • Опубліковано 12 лип 2019
  • one of the craziest pile ups i've seen because one flip and the other almost flips in this crash
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  • @fredbloggs1917
    @fredbloggs1917 3 роки тому +147

    I was a marshal there that day just before the bridge, was the most horrific crash, Hebert and co were very lucky. I helped with the clear up but avoided getting to near to Herbert`s car !! I was only 22. I went on to work in Formula 1 with various teams for the next 25 years.

    • @xoJOBYox
      @xoJOBYox 2 роки тому +2

      My favourite F1 track is the Canadian GP.

    • @alessandroganzerli884
      @alessandroganzerli884 2 роки тому +1

      @UC7ZgCPBkXAaFgDEehs8YADA nobody gives a Fuck about that

    • @Beam-jo6sb
      @Beam-jo6sb 2 роки тому +1

      damn, would you say even out of those 25 years of F1 this was in the top 3 worst wrecks you saw?

    • @blakerh
      @blakerh 2 роки тому +1

      I just finished his audio book "Lights out, full throttle." He mentions the accident and the recovery but doesn't really get into the details. The crash is much worse than I pictured. Now I know why his feet were so damaged.

    • @TermIANator
      @TermIANator 2 роки тому

      @@blakerh I know this comment is a couple months ago, but if you are still interested, he does a more detailed talk about the crash here on YT. Probably can find it pretty easily.

  • @aifrench14
    @aifrench14 3 роки тому +140

    If it hadn't been for this truly awful accident Johnny could have been a real frontrunner in F1 with at least one World Championship to his name. The fact he managed to get to F1 and win races shows what an incredible character the guy is. I think due to his jovial nature we often forget just how brilliant, strong willed and determined he was when he was racing.

  • @dmg8530
    @dmg8530 4 роки тому +113

    Commentary at the end is chilling. Commentator thinks that the front of Herbert's car was cut off to release the driver. Unaware that it was the first impact that took it all off

  • @alc-d4163
    @alc-d4163 4 роки тому +135

    It amazes me how Herbert still made it into F1 after this incident

    • @simonkevnorris
      @simonkevnorris 4 роки тому +2

      Have a listen to the episode of The Grid. Interesting episode on Johnny.

    • @sambell_101st6
      @sambell_101st6 3 роки тому +2

      @@darkpinktv6721 Strange, he didn't mention about any contract in his book (What doesn't kill you, 2016). He had a few proposals, but not a signed contract (at least as I understood).

    • @cjmead_
      @cjmead_ 3 роки тому +9

      It amazes me Herbert still had legs after this crash.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 3 роки тому +9

      @@cjmead_ He needed surgery, ended up about an inch shorter afterwards & needed painkilling injections in his ankles to race.
      Much the same happened to Martin Brundle around the same time. Chances are both their careers would have been more successful without those accidents.

    • @fabianrocha9924
      @fabianrocha9924 3 роки тому

      And won 3 Races

  • @WayneM1961
    @WayneM1961 3 роки тому +30

    My God, miracle of miracles no one lost there lives. This was even more brutal then the famous Spa accident of 1998

  • @iangibson2588
    @iangibson2588 4 роки тому +175

    I was there that day, didn't see the accident as I was watching at Paddock, but I remember the silence after the accident and only a couple of cars coming round at the end of the lap.
    I still think that was the day Herbert lost the F1 world championship. Although he subsequently made it into F1, and was a GP winner, I always felt he wasn't quite the same driver afterwards.

    • @dvorgur
      @dvorgur 4 роки тому +15

      If you havn't... have a listen to podcast "Beyond the grid" where he, Tom Clarkson talks to Herbert about this crash and much more. It's a great listen. Highly recommend it!

    • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
      @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 3 роки тому +1

      Well,he has the movement of his legs limited so...

    • @richardsmith9509
      @richardsmith9509 3 роки тому +1

      No it wasn't: This was an F3000 race, not an F1

    • @iangibson2588
      @iangibson2588 3 роки тому +13

      @@richardsmith9509 think you've misunderstood the point I was making. It was an F3000 race, I know, I was there. My point was Herbert's injuries were so severe I don't believe he was ever quite as good a driver afterwards, he'd lost that 'edge'. Without the crash I firmly believe he could have been a F1 world champion.

    • @richardsmith9509
      @richardsmith9509 3 роки тому

      @@iangibson2588 Correct: it was his left foot that was the worst and eventually the auto boxes made it less necessary. He is still bothered by his ankles....

  • @example2844
    @example2844 9 місяців тому +5

    I dont think I've ever seen such an amazing amount of debris from a crash. Herbert was struggling for his life after this crash, and literally 6 months later was in a formula 1 car, experiencing excruciating pain with each movement, and still managed 4th in said race for Benneton

  • @stephenbrown4211
    @stephenbrown4211 3 роки тому +23

    I remember a quote from Herbert. " I knew there was something wrong when a Marshal said I'd be ok, then promptly went to the front of the car and threw up"

    • @andrewcarey6109
      @andrewcarey6109 3 роки тому +25

      Well, I was that marshal! 😏. And thanks to Johnny I have gone down in motorsport folklore!!! But the truth is - I didn’t throw up, though I might have looked like I was about to🤢. He admitted that it was a bit of poetic license in his book. I’d only been marshalling for a couple of years so o deal with this happening (I was actually flag marshal on Post 13A that day, so really shouldn’t have gone to the car, but oh well!!! and is still to this day the biggest accident I’ve been involved in. The amazing thing is, I work in broadcasting, and used to work for Sky Sports, and have met Johnny on a number of occasions since the accident, and we alway exchange a knowing nod (and I get to dine out on the story ever since 😎😎😎😎)

    • @stephenbrown4211
      @stephenbrown4211 3 роки тому +4

      @@andrewcarey6109 You must be the second most famous marshal after Steve “Priest Catcher” Green then. nice to hear the true story. That you didn’t throw up. I had only been marshalling a couple of years myself, always at Snetterton and hadn’t marshalled at BH. I wouldn’t worry too much about deserting you post, Snetterton flaggies often have to do that if blueing. I started as a flagging myself but went over to incident .

    • @Beam-jo6sb
      @Beam-jo6sb 2 роки тому +1

      @@andrewcarey6109 damn theres alot of marshals from this race in this comment section. very cool.

  • @wolfe1970
    @wolfe1970 4 роки тому +53

    Amazing everyone survived this horrific crash, being less impacted crashed since where people have tragically lost their lives

  • @shirleyboy8859
    @shirleyboy8859 4 роки тому +36

    If my memory serves me right there were 3 restarts for this race. It was a really bad day of racing. I was there working for Ralt Racing, being at the back we missed most of the accident..But it is very upsetting for the crew when it all goes quiet.There was a LOT of rebuilding after this weekend.

    • @HyperdriveTwo
      @HyperdriveTwo 3 роки тому +4

      There were only 6 cars on the grid for the 3rd start of this race! Cor Euser was black flagged for having part of his rear wing hanging off, but he ignored it, and kept his points anyway!

  • @lipcovitch1
    @lipcovitch1 3 роки тому +4

    A few months later, I saw Herbert`s F1 debut at Jacarepaguá track, in Rio, 89 Brazilian GP. As he was not fully recovered, Johnny used a bike to move himself in the paddock. He finished the race in 4th after a very good performance.

  • @toksyak9196
    @toksyak9196 4 роки тому +54

    1:42 white car flipping on the left came really close to hitting his head against the barrier

    • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
      @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 3 роки тому +10

      That's Gregor Foitek. He's the responsible for the start of the carnage.

    • @Ramnokri
      @Ramnokri 3 роки тому +2

      yeah thats what i thought. its about 90 to 80 degrees more or less and he would have had hit the barrier head on

    • @aadvikbagga9910
      @aadvikbagga9910 3 роки тому +7

      Surprised how something like the halo came so late in f1 there was literally no head protection for so long

    • @toksyak9196
      @toksyak9196 3 роки тому +8

      @@aadvikbagga9910 then again there was very little anything protection for so long

  • @HyperdriveTwo
    @HyperdriveTwo 3 роки тому +9

    I was at that race - I remember seeing the aftermath: there were bits of car parts in the trees, and deep gouges in the tarmac :(

  • @bmsracing2427
    @bmsracing2427 Рік тому +2

    i have never seen this crash until today, one of the most violent i’ve ever seen

  • @jcochraneuk
    @jcochraneuk 2 роки тому +2

    I was a trainee Scrutineer at this event. All the Scutineers were involved in reporting on damaged cars. So i was left standing on the grid to examine the 6 cars remaining. 3 I sent to the pit lane for damage repair and they had to restart from the pits. The other 3 started on the grid.

  • @epickett63
    @epickett63 3 роки тому +7

    Geez - Herbert's car hit the wall on the right head on, then as it slid towards the wall on the left hit IT head on... :-(

  • @thetonetosser
    @thetonetosser 3 роки тому +1

    I was there but sitting on Clearways. When they brought the smashed cars round (what seemed like a lifetime later) Herbert's car was a wreck. I remember saying to my partner that he must have lost his legs. Mercifully he hadn't but it was a really scary day.

  • @speedwaystevemk2
    @speedwaystevemk2 3 роки тому +1

    I was working in the Media centre, it was a surreal on the pit lane, as we could not see what had happened. It just seeing so few cars coming back, the drivers just shaking there heads in disbelief. I loved this series f3000, was great teams and could get up close to the cars.

  • @diegohayato2740
    @diegohayato2740 4 місяці тому

    It was a true miracle that no one died in that huge pile-up.

  • @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums
    @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums 23 години тому

    I was in a touring car support race that day. The silence following the crash was palpable. Horrific. It basically wrecked Johnny Herbert’s upcoming F1 career. 😢

  • @Yahniboy
    @Yahniboy 3 роки тому +4

    I was there for that. It was a terrible weekend much like Imola1994. Many drivers got injured that weekend.

  • @PhilipReeder
    @PhilipReeder 3 роки тому +5

    "Tip of the hat" to race leader Martin Donnelly.

  • @speakfreeley4473
    @speakfreeley4473 3 роки тому +4

    As said a restart. It was Foitek who caused the first stoppage when he punted Roberto Moreno off the circuit. Something like that Foitek/Moreno contact would today bring out a safety car. Before that Herbert was building a commanding lead. If there'd been a safety car rather than stopping the race then no standing restart, no second start crash & Herbert would have left Brands under his own steam.

    • @MrSniperfox29
      @MrSniperfox29 3 роки тому +1

      Or Herbert could have not fluffed the restart and been no where near the incident when it happened.

    • @speakfreeley4473
      @speakfreeley4473 3 роки тому +5

      @@MrSniperfox29 As said Foitek caused the race to be stopped first time, as well as putting Johnny Herbert in hospital.

  • @TOFKAS01
    @TOFKAS01 3 роки тому +10

    Wasnt Johnny Herbert suffering from this accident for several years?

  • @TOFKAS01
    @TOFKAS01 3 роки тому +3

    Its interesting that a lot of those drivers later drove in F1 but no one really was a champion.

  • @stevecooksley
    @stevecooksley 3 роки тому +13

    Brands Hatch is waiting to kill you at nearly every point - the only place you're safe is Druid's. As much as I'd love to see F1 return there, it ain't gonna happen.

    • @runlarryrun77
      @runlarryrun77 3 роки тому

      I've seen quite a few events at Brands in recent years. I love it there, it's a great little circuit steeped in history but neither the track nor the local infrastructure could cope with modern F1 events.

    • @DjDolHaus86
      @DjDolHaus86 3 роки тому

      One of my favourite circuits but unfortunately it's never going to see F1 again

  • @davidca96
    @davidca96 2 роки тому +2

    The cars in these days had the speed, but didnt have the safety technology yet. They would rip apart, basically only giving one good impact of protection then the driver was completely vulnerable. This same issue would happen in indycar too.

  • @annanowak1897
    @annanowak1897 4 роки тому +11

    Its F3000?

  • @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE
    @RedTsarOldChannel-INACTIVE 3 роки тому +12

    Congratulations Mr. Foitek.
    You nearly killed someone.

  • @Milkydrummer
    @Milkydrummer Рік тому +1

    Jonny was one of the top F1 prospects around until this…

  • @MikeStarKaraokeUK
    @MikeStarKaraokeUK 3 роки тому

    The history on the cars and tracks is interesting. Today the cars are much safer than the early years. The new Halo helps to save the drivers

  • @AlonsoRules
    @AlonsoRules 4 місяці тому

    Gregor Foitek changed motorsport history

  • @xialumisture
    @xialumisture 3 роки тому +2

    この映像には入っていませんが、事故直後、シートに収まったままヘルメットを脱いで、
    苦痛でいっぱいの顔を上気させて激しく呼吸するハーバートの様子が未だに脳裏に焼きついて離れません。
    これでキャリアが途切れなかったこと、命には別状がなかったこと、F1でも速さを証明できたことが救いです。
    しかし、未来が開けた矢先になんでこんな大事故に遭うんだろう。神様、意地悪すぎる。

    • @user-dd3yz5bf1q
      @user-dd3yz5bf1q 3 роки тому +1

      黄色のマシンに突っ込んで回転してるのがハーバートですかね?それとも黄色のマシンかな?ともかくこんな大事故からよく生還しましたね。マツダでのルマン制覇、幻のISUZUエンジンテスト、ロータス無限最後の意地の4番グリッド、彼は本当に日本に縁があるレーサーでした。F3000も走りましたしね。

  • @lionelrosiere2062
    @lionelrosiere2062 4 роки тому +4

    Foitek was lucky.

  • @C_and_C...
    @C_and_C... 3 роки тому

    Would have been nice if he followed Michael to Ferrari, was a solid number 2 to him & was key in helping Benetton win the constructors championship in 1995.

  • @stefansenna1985
    @stefansenna1985 2 роки тому +1

    Donnelly jumped the start!

  • @fabianrocha9924
    @fabianrocha9924 3 роки тому +1

    And then he won 3 F1 Races

  • @Christiandeanandrade
    @Christiandeanandrade 7 місяців тому +1

    My god I was there too😮 it was awful 😢

  • @kevinprior3549
    @kevinprior3549 3 роки тому +1

    Is this F3000 or F2 as it is now?

  • @JadeJuhasz-ln6kf
    @JadeJuhasz-ln6kf 3 роки тому

    Wow! A British Cameraman that actually knows what he's doing. They seem to "miss" things alot. I watch auto racing to see crashes and this one is a classic. Makes a case to switch to remote control cars, so no one gets hurt.

    • @exa-roli3954
      @exa-roli3954 3 роки тому

      If you watch racing for the crashes, you are a part of the fans most people call "a disgrace". It's called racing ,not crashing. People die. Go out on the roads and crash yourself if you enjoy it. Plus you are stupid enough to say it as if it's something normal.

  • @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977
    @carlosmpsenyorcapitacollon6977 3 роки тому +1

    It is strange how F3000 and F1 itself where more safe in the late 80's than in 1994.
    Btw is the commentator South African?

    • @LingLiu2014
      @LingLiu2014 3 роки тому

      I'm pretty sure it's James Hunt who co-commentates with Murray Walker in F1

    • @JackDavis16
      @JackDavis16 2 роки тому +2

      @@LingLiu2014 It's Richard Hay of Hay Fisher Productions who produced and commentated on a lot of British Motorsport TV in the late 1980s.

  • @_collin2448
    @_collin2448 4 роки тому +1

    Which colour is his car

    • @rarecrashesguy2998
      @rarecrashesguy2998  4 роки тому

      which car ?

    • @short_kenobi
      @short_kenobi 4 роки тому +13

      If you are talking about Johnny Herbert, it's the yellow one in the camel livery

    • @pasqualeguadagni
      @pasqualeguadagni 4 роки тому +1

      The herbert's car is the yellow one with camel liveru

  • @giannislekkakos1996
    @giannislekkakos1996 3 роки тому +1

    After death Senna cars more safer than before

  • @mikoajnowak1627
    @mikoajnowak1627 3 роки тому +1

    Who Was Fault Of This Accident?

    • @teemutoropainen
      @teemutoropainen 3 роки тому

      Gregor Foitek (at least Herbert and others blame him). He caused other accidents too.

    • @mikoajnowak1627
      @mikoajnowak1627 3 роки тому

      @@teemutoropainen Ok Thx

    • @Brandon-sd7lq
      @Brandon-sd7lq Рік тому

      I'm suprised he walked away from that crash

  • @marcoosti8018
    @marcoosti8018 3 роки тому +3

    Foitek caused this accident

  • @dngnascar
    @dngnascar 4 роки тому +2

    Did anyone get killed? Damn

  • @rodrigogonzalez7858
    @rodrigogonzalez7858 4 роки тому +1

    Did everyone survive ?

    • @rarecrashesguy2998
      @rarecrashesguy2998  4 роки тому +9

      yes

    • @badgers1975
      @badgers1975 3 роки тому +2

      Just.. I'm one of the spectators by the bridge. A future work colleague was the head Marshall on the nearest post lower down pilgrim's drop, the was not alot holding Jonny's feet on. I've still got thw piece of bodywork that flew past my face that day. Before it happened we were marvelling at the sound of (apart from the 2 Hondas) a grid over cosworth dfvs at full tilt. Brands is (was) an amazing track but if you get it wrong it punishes. I saw Jochen mass put a Sauber c8 (before it became the mercedes c9) in to a tire wall on the exit of clark curve

    • @pascanlon1
      @pascanlon1 3 роки тому

      @@badgers1975 I must have been very near you, yes remember seeing Johnny's feet dangling out, thought he was dead

  • @perrystalsisworldofbiology767
    @perrystalsisworldofbiology767 3 роки тому

    On first look it seems that they are F1 cars, however I believe they F3000s.

    • @d3203
      @d3203 3 роки тому

      its F3000

    • @badgers1975
      @badgers1975 3 роки тому

      The entire grid were DFV's apart from the camel Honda's it was a gorgeous noise

  • @diogopinto9462
    @diogopinto9462 3 роки тому +1

    Its no Belgium 1998 but still big

  • @rarecrashesguy2998
    @rarecrashesguy2998  4 роки тому +5

    holy 1,212

    • @KetchaWill
      @KetchaWill 4 роки тому +1

      Rare Crashes Guy this nearly ended Johnny Herbert career.

    • @andyelliott8027
      @andyelliott8027 4 роки тому +4

      @@KetchaWill What a f*****g dick Gregor Foitek is, that was the second time Johnny Herbert had been injured in a crash caused by him but this one was more serious, it ruined Herbert's F1 career. He won 3 Grands Prix but it should have been 30............or more.

  • @kylewaddington1983
    @kylewaddington1983 3 роки тому

    Big crash should of used little track cant go a as fast

  • @erpaderpa4469
    @erpaderpa4469 2 роки тому

    That was completely his own fault.

    • @TheTeejay73
      @TheTeejay73 2 місяці тому

      Totally disagree - the racing line was Herberts. Foitek put his car where it shouldn't have been, and Herbert already had the line. You never, ever are that far left coming up to pilgrims drop. Foitek totally to blame.

  • @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums
    @CharlieMorgan-manicdrums 23 години тому

    I was in a touring car support race that day. The silence following the crash was palpable. Horrific. It basically wrecked Johnny Herbert’s upcoming F1 career. 😢