Thank you all very much for suggesting this video on flap discs. Please let me know if you'd like a round 2 video as well as which brands. Thanks again and best regards, Todd Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order): Diablo: amzn.to/2EnI8NA Walter: amzn.to/3iZFdta DeWalt: amzn.to/2CQy2V1 Makita: amzn.to/31kkBWP Norton: amzn.to/3giwAZe Warrior: bit.ly/3aUjGPV
You should do some more brands that specialize in abrasives. Weiler, Randor, and Benchmark are a few that come to mind. A lot of tool companies just make abrasives as an afterthought.
No, thankyou. Your analysis and processes are very interesting, educational and entertaining. Non bias based testing for the win. Keep doing what your doing, it is a winning formulation.
Silas Mayes - in most cases yes, but not including it would leave questions. Sometimes name brands turn out to be junk and sometimes we’re surprised. It’s all good.
@@Omar-em7rl the videos that PF puts out, in my opinion, remind me of the old consumer reports when I was a kid, unbiased, straight to the point, and Honest. Now many of the videos on UA-cam and everywhere else are influenced by how much people are getting paid. Then you buy the product and it doesn't work.
Anyone else start watching this guy by mistake....... Two days on and I think I have watched everything, love the way he has thought of everything about testing lol I'm sure the big names he test haven't got him on there Christmas card list
@@ProjectFarm I'm very thankful to my parents for being able to afford having me learn three languages still as a kid, even though i live in a 3rd world country. If it wasn't for me having english as a near-natural language, i'd never even dream of coming across content like this in my country's main language. To give you an idea of how screwed up things are here, major companies (even international ones, like DeWalt and Makita, which we have here) make shady deals to manufacture products of generally poor quality and to not allow any newcomers into the competition, forcing the population into buying substandard products for sheer lack of better alternatives. Importing anything is a major hassle and because of all the taxation, it ends up being prohibitive if one plans to use imported products often. Sometimes i get a bit desperate to leave but i get reminded of our worthless currency and just how little we actually make... There's no escape but dream of a better life through the internet and youtube. Thank you, Project Farm!
@@gionder that is crazy. Hopefully you can take that education and get out and eventually help that country that you are in. At 3 languages (2 plus english) the job market is yours to conker. Places love people who know english and at least 1 other language and you know 2. That is valuable to them.
@Swampy exporting also has taxes and our shipping infrastructure is quite arcaic and inneficient. If one wants to "expedite" something out, we usually go to UPS or other international company, even though cost is a major concern. As an example, i recently bought some supplements from an american heatlh supplement retailer. They had three shipping methods: the slowest one that doesn't include any pre-paid taxes cost me 20 dollars. The middle one said that i was supposed to get my products within three weeks, already counting the time the parcel would spend in customs. That'd set me back 73 dollars. Yeah, major difference. And the most expensive promised to fly through customs and arrive at my doorstep within a week, since it included all taxes pre-paid. My order was worth 112US$. This shipping mode? Alone, 130$. So yeah, i guess i'm not going to choose that one
Yes! Piercing, friction, cutting etc. I worked a few years in yard construction. Concrete products just killed gloves. Like by the dozen. All those little sharp shards of crushed rock in the material plus the ammonia etc from the thousands of bricks... The only number I looked at when making glove decisions was, in the end, the cut resistance. I think it was because the worst the concrete could do wasn't actually the sandpaper-like scrubbing but instead the particles that were a tad bigger that cut the glove material. And yeah, technically all sandpapers "cut" grooves the size of it's grain - it's the many juxtapositioned cuts that loosens material. But the cutting I'm talking about are from specs like 0.5mm in size or so. Huge in terms of sandpaper and the average surface smoothness of landscaping concrete products.
I do a lot of body work panels and make various things out of 1/8" stock. I grind the weld first with a 36G grinding wheel then blend with 60G or 80G flap wheel. I do in some cases use the 36G as well. The Harbor Freight ones are just about useless. I generally buy Norton which work pretty good but I will try the Diablo. Like another guy wrote " Diablo makes good S#*t" I wonder if your experiments are better than the manufacturer. They seem more real world to me. Great job as always!
I trust this channel so much, you've gotta love how objective he is. Mad respect for his methods and many thanks for the time put into making these videos.
If this guy lived in the UK I would be nominating him for a knighthood, absolutely incredible that he does all these tests from his own pocket, total and utter legend. Without doubt the best channel on UA-cam
@@wades623 yes which is his to spend as he wishes and he spends it on our entertainment and solid consumer advice, if he wanted to use it to buy coke and booze theres nothing stopping him 😉
That's a great idea. I keep buying OEM Honda wiper blade refills and they barely last six months. They're cheap but it's still a pain to constantly have to swap them out. It's still better than buying a $20 replacement blade that also only lasts about six months.
the best wiper blade are made of silicone. dont buy the cheap rubber ones. the silicone ones ive got have lasted for about a year and a half so far and they stilk work like new
@@mentaldan666 Probably something to do with burning sludge or something like that onto bare metal. There'd have to be 3 or 4 tests averaged out to account for the imprecise nature of a test like that. Just off the top of my head. Could also do easier, less subjective tests like spraying each test onto a thin layer of oil on a vertical piece of metal, and seeing if each of them are capable of removing it.
I appreciate you taking such pains to make the results clear even when you’re cautious of calling anyone an outright winner. Telling us YOUR conclusions is invaluable. Thanks
I appreciate the in depth and accurate review on the flap discs. I’d have to say that, based on the posted results of your findings, the Diablo was the clear winner! Thanks.
electronicsNmore, Thank you very much for the positive comment! I can hardly wait until your next video this coming Friday! The high current LED light flasher circuit video is impressive! Thanks again
Agreed! I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel, as I went from a renter in NYC, with landlords and superintendents, to a homeowner in NJ. Now I'M the landlord/superintendent and I need all the help I can get! Your videos are superb!
I really like that you use different weights and times. I have found from using these products at work for 30 years that any grinding, cutting, and sanding disc it is best to let the disc do the work and not force it. They last longer even though they may cut a bit slower. You may be cutting slower, but by the time you stop to change wheels the total time ends up quicker. Also you put less stress on the tool which lasts longer too.
I've got the same feeling about Dewalt. They have some great, durable tools. But your videos show their consumables to seriously lack in price/quality.
The sound of a snapping belt followed by a big bang, squeeeek and alarm is never good! Mind, the belts in question are 1300mm wide and 2150mm long. We had two brands where the joint broke way before the belt was worn.
I work at Canadian Tire, and a handful of the mastercraft belts we get are split right off the truck. I've had to replace one of the belts on a display after a few months, for the same reason.
Project Farm if you test drywall anchors, you have to test togglers... they are the industry standard for AV installers. (BB) 1/4-20 Toggler SNAPTOGGLE Heavy Duty Toggle Bolt Zinc with 1/4-20 x 2 1/2 Combo Pan Machine Screws Zinc (100 Pcs) www.amazon.com/dp/B07CNWHP3J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rDhICbMCZABFQ Don't worry you can buy them in smaller quantities… And probably can find them somewhere locally like a Fastenal,Grainger or Greybar.
wb5mgr I found a BIG box of them at a habitat for humanity restore for five bucks like three years ago; and I still have a bunch and I always use them. I’ve hung probably a dozen TVs; and for any anchor point where I didn’t hit a stud; used a toggler. I haven’t had one fail yet.
You are by far the best @ these comparison videos. No unnecessary banter that doesn't pertain to the video. Straight to business right out of the gate. Some of these people feel like they have to tell us what the weather is like where they are at, what they had for breakfast, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Who cares!? I dont. Well done sir!
Yes!! Definitely seconding this idea. Please try Sunlight Original Yellow/lemon in that group, too, please ? My dad used to sell chemicals from a company called National Labs here in Canada, and although he loved their Fasolve degreaser, he still swore that Sunlight was better, especially on organic oils like fish oil ( we used it exclusively to clean the boat and coolers after fishing.)
PF, Hello, but when I saw this with the description, I thought what odd disks, for disk brakes, SA I busted out in LAUGHTER as I saw these. I did REFRIGERATION WORK, & had to REPAIR the fan brackets for frozen food cases , when the busted up , with blocked drains, I carried about 100, different fan blades, but very few brackets, it was hard cleaning with a file , to braze them, so bought a small angle grinder , using a grinding wheel, so quickly clean the sink coating off to braze, & that was the ONLY use I had for the grinder . Cheers From NJ USA. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
I think abrasive material should be a consideration for the test. From my info gathering there are 3 types: aluminum oxide, Zirconia/Zirconium and the newest Ceramics. A revision and new players on the field should make and excelent test. Also there are 2 types of flap discs Type 29 and Type 27. Thanks for all the hard work.
This is a great idea, just trying to find a good review on stripping wheels, they are designed for removal of rust and paint. I am currently using a flap disc from Princess Auto to sharpen my mower blades. I leave the blades on the mower, it is doing a great job.
From my experience, these wheels seem to be cutting WAAYYY less than I'm used to for a 40 grit. Could be the pressure, the way the steel is rotating, or another factor. I love the videos! Keep them coming!
all of your tests are so elaborate and well thought out, thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos i'm always looking forward to the next one!
The only thing I’d like to see is when you do the final review, add a graphic like you do for costs, wear, etc add an overall ranking on first place thru last place when your speaking. I hope that makes sense. I’m nit picking. Your videos are awesome. You do amazing work. I’m happy to watch them and support you how I can. Thanks for what you do.
I want you on my "Zombie Apocalypse" team. "We're gonna take humans out of the equation, what I've got rigged up here is an automatic zombie decapitation device. We'll be testing which mall store katana will work the best, vs these equally dull Home Depot and Harbor Freight machetes." *no sponsors, all equipment was purchased with my own personal food rations, and hand-collected zombie teeth.
Interesting test to see how flap discs hold up relative to each other on rust/scale.... In general if you want to extend the life of any flap disc or sanding disc always remove the rust & scale surface first with either a grinding wheel, sandblasting, rust dissolver/ acid or (my preferred method) a diamond grinding wheel. Iron oxide is quite high on the Mohs hardness scale, & is an abrasive in its own right, Emery powder. You can see how glazed the edges of each flap are after the second test, & why they don't cut nearly as well in the 2 min test. Once you get to clean steel a fresh flap disc or sanding disc will cut beautifully.
I came across your reviews by accident and I have now watched most of your videos. I even watch the ones I would never have anything to do with or use the product but just enjoy watching. I know, for me, I have learned a lot. Don’t ever let the big brands buy out your ethical and honest opinions. Keep up the great work! Thanks again for the great content!
I buy the Warrior ones in bulk when there is a coupon they have the .99 cent each coupons and at that price they are good the the price vs material removed.
I remember watching your first video and thinking, ‘holy crap this guy is as nerdy as me’. I watch these whenever a new one comes out. Thank you for making genuinely interesting content.
Cubitron won one of the sanding paper tests he did. I don’t know why he didn’t include one of the 40 grain flap discs. But anyway, he does excellent and fair tests. Easy to understand and great way of not spending money in fancy, but poor performing brands…
@@alexander_konig_coaching Thanks, I don’t think I had seen that test. And I agree that his tests are as fair as can be done. I seldom find fault with any of his test methods and I certainly understand that he has a limit as to the number of brands he can test.
Agreed. But they do make decent corded angle grinders, keep an eye for online price drops as most stores price match. I recently got 2 new dwe402w's for $49 each!
I’ve spent 3 weeks in a grinding room straight beveling fittings with a Walter abrasives wheel and out of all the wheels I’ve ever used they work the best after there worn down because they don’t cut as hard it’s easier to bevel fittings
Todd you have saved me so much money at this point, I have purchased many of you winners and they do not disappoint. Thank you and keep it up from one DIYer to another test away and give us the best.
Again Diablo did well. The Harbor Freight I buy in a mixed 10 pack and get 3 of these flaps under $10. It makes the warrior ones even cheaper worth it at that price.
When I seen the title, I was wondering how you were gonna pull-off this test! You did a great job! Thanks so much for the valuable information you provide us consumers!
Myself I just run the edge on the steel, which happens anyway at angles buffing up a weld in a corner etc. Where I like using them most is with aluminum, stainless, clean up work, when you don't want to throw a bunch of sparks... and they'll work on wood if need be.
I would have liked to seen the flap discs from Amazon. Benchmark Abrasives brand. They seem to hold up pretty well and at $2.00/each, it's hard to beat the price!
I'd second a test for this company. Our welding instructor told us to buy from this company since we go thru a lot of disks in class and he thinks it's a really good brand for the money.
+1 for Benchmarl Abrasives. Been using their zirconia flap discs for a while now, and they way outperform the HF discs I've tried. I've also used their sanding belts and bimetal recip saw blades with good results. BTW, they have frequent sales, and the flap disc assortment of 10 was FREE with my last order. Hard to beat those kind of prices/offers.
Another outstanding comparison. The last two flap discs I bought were Dewalt and they were just as you say, overpriced and so-so performance. I’m not a big dewalt fan due to a bad experience with an expensive hammer drill that was hardly used and just outside the warranty it decided to let out the blue smoke. After being denied warranty I took it apart and it was a clear manufacturer defect. Improper assembly caused wires to get pinched and the insulation was damaged just enough to short circuit. When shown photos, dewalt basically gave me the middle finger. I now buy Makita drills and hypoid saws, Milwaukee grinders, Bosch routers, Sanders, and table saws. I’m going to buy a flap disc tomorrow and will be going with diablo.
Project Farm another good brand of commercial grade flap and wire wheels made in the USA and pretty affordable by the box is Weiler. I bought a 10 pack of these from Amazon for about $5 per wheel last year: Weiler 51210 Tiger X Flap Disc, Ceramic and Zirconia Alumina, Angled, Phenolic Backing, 60 Grit, 5", 7/8" Arbor Hole (Pack of 10) www.amazon.com/dp/B00YXD7ZU8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MN1ICbXPPD1VC I would be curious if these high end ones are worth any extra.
@@philtripe work provides them, we use them to smooth welds and debur the edges of metel. They work better then a grinding disk for sure. And there may be something better out there.
I did want to offer a video idea. I’ve gone through a lot of 3x21 belt sand paper!! I bought a few different grit Warrior brands when I picked up my sander for a deck job. The adhesive tape seems to give out, or the belt rips if I would go over a knot in the wood, thick chunk of paint, or the head of a hidden screw that was not countersunk. I did notice a material difference between the blue “ aluminum oxide” and brown “zirconia”. I did get more life out of the blue, and had no tape fails, but rips in every belt. Would you mind explaining the difference in these materials, and if the warriors are just weak compared to better brands? Thank you for all you do!!!
Can tell you the gorilla glue tough and clear mounting tape is a monster and holds like a beast, have used it to hold on a wireless door bell outside, and my son's pop socket to the back of his phone because the adhesive that came with it didn't hold to his abuse.
@@ProjectFarm If you try this one out look for a brand called Crest! They make auto body supplies and I always reached for their tape over the 3M stuff
Good job. I love those wheels. I did a lot of business with a truck tank shop back in the 70’s and one of their mechanics gave one of those before I even saw them in the stores. That thing lasted forever. Love them. Keep up the good work.
We can all thank Robert Bosch a German engineer, and his amazing R&D team for all the amazing products. Also he's worth almost 100Billion for a reason. Great quality products, priced accordingly. Diablo products rock!
I usually criticize your tests pretty hard....but this was an outstanding set up. I like how you describe VALUE at the end as having a variety of definitions. Very nice work!
I'm convinced you're a madman. But you're so thorough and fair that I'm a Patreon supporter anyway. Well done sir, I learn something from all your videos.
really glad to see someone is doing this type of comparison video! im building a truck right now for my youtube channel, and want to spend my money in the best way possible, so it looks like i might be picking up a diablo flap disc haha! i really love their sawzall blades! absolutely unbeatable.
I was particularly impressed with this set up, where did you find the red contraption you used for this set up? I particularly like how it not only pivots but can also be clocked at different angles, super cool but absolutely no idea what that came from, lol
I'm offended because this test came across as a bit - abrasive - to me. ...(big sigh)... (looking down, slightly shaking my head no)...I know... Just kidding, of course. Well done and thanks for showing us the better deals!
I thinking testing the Benchmark brand abrasives would be awesome. They sent me a trial pack awhile back and I have been hooked on them. Prices are fair and the disks hold up well in my experience. I would like to see how they hold up to your testing.
Depends where you live, every other station has its own blend and especially in winter, real cold places has more "anti-gel additives" (paraffin etc) than warmer places, but generally most places where you can get to a cold place on one tank of diesel or it might be cold during the next month has some... More cold equals less diesel and more additives. generally theese additives results in less chance of freezing/gelling, but also a loss of power and worse fuel economy. Testing different fuels from your area might help you out slightly, but odds are that all the stations in your area has roughly the same blend as the climate is roughly the same. Also testing it versus the summer fuel at the same station has its own problems, storing diesel fuel over time without it degrading is not easy, it won't degrade much over half a year in a plastic jug but enaugh to affect the testresults.
@@ProjectFarm Hey, ya know it usually gets trimmed down naturally anyway. Unless all you're doing is flat work, and then you can just turn them on their side now and then while you're working. By the time the disk gets a little smaller and so worn it's really not worth all the effort to bother too much... in my opinion.
I probably would have never thought Diablo was this good if I didn’t start watching project farm years ago.Thanks for his in depth reviews and honest opinions I feel like we can all trust that he’s telling us the truth 🙏.I really can’t speak for others but I trust his information on everything he reviews and that’s why I come here before purchasing anything!Thanks for staying true to us and not taking that extra few dollars to lie to us…and I mean this genuinely!
Thank you all very much for suggesting this video on flap discs. Please let me know if you'd like a round 2 video as well as which brands. Thanks again and best regards, Todd
Products Tested In This Video (in no particular order):
Diablo: amzn.to/2EnI8NA
Walter: amzn.to/3iZFdta
DeWalt: amzn.to/2CQy2V1
Makita: amzn.to/31kkBWP
Norton: amzn.to/3giwAZe
Warrior: bit.ly/3aUjGPV
You should do some more brands that specialize in abrasives. Weiler, Randor, and Benchmark are a few that come to mind. A lot of tool companies just make abrasives as an afterthought.
If 3m makes one I’d bet that would work really well
Jonathan Bell benchmark are pure trash. I’ve used benchmark and Walter and there’s just no comparison.
LVA has good flap wheels.
Maybe do orbital sander test and orbital sander paper tests. Awesome as always
This guy really puts an extreme amount of effort into these tests/videos. Keep it up man
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm Yes great job! can't get this data anyware!
I know! I love watching these.
No, thankyou. Your analysis and processes are very interesting, educational and entertaining. Non bias based testing for the win. Keep doing what your doing, it is a winning formulation.
I hope tool distributors watch this channel.
Thank you for your dedication to helping us make educated purchases
I love the fact that you always include harbor freight items
Thank you!
a junk baseline
@@philtripe well in many cases just crap unfortunately
Silas Mayes - in most cases yes, but not including it would leave questions. Sometimes name brands turn out to be junk and sometimes we’re surprised. It’s all good.
yeah, Horror Fright has it's place. Just not their consumable items.
you are raising the bar for youtube content my dude. thank you.
Thank you very much!
........what have I learned from watching 19,000 of these videos? Diablo generally makes good shit.
Great point! Thank you!
@@ProjectFarm can you please test drywall anchors
I just bought the Diablo carbide teeth recip blades on sale 2 for 1 and picked up an extra cut off wheel. Had Project Farm in mind the whole time!
That's the same conclusion I'm coming to also.
Yeah, the diablo tools seem to do rather well.
These episodes are GOLD ⛏️💛
Thank you very much for the positive comment! I'm looking forward to your next video! Your content is amazing!
@@ProjectFarm thank you for pointing this guy out Todd, didn't know about this channel, I just subscribed to him.
@@Omar-em7rl thank you !. Yes Todd is awesome!.
@@Omar-em7rl the videos that PF puts out, in my opinion, remind me of the old consumer reports when I was a kid, unbiased, straight to the point, and Honest. Now many of the videos on UA-cam and everywhere else are influenced by how much people are getting paid. Then you buy the product and it doesn't work.
@@WarpedYT Is there any chance of a collaboration between you two? That'd be awesome to see.
Bro, you’ve more than earned those subscribers. I legitimately buy things based on your testing.
Great to hear!
Same here
Absolutely!
Ditto
You DAMN RIGHT! I purposely go back and look for PF videos before I buy tools😂😂
Anyone else start watching this guy by mistake....... Two days on and I think I have watched everything, love the way he has thought of everything about testing lol I'm sure the big names he test haven't got him on there Christmas card list
Thank you!
Idk if he worked in a lab but he definitely uses the scientific method and thinks of seemingly all the variables.
Maybe he is DIY Jesus!! Love the channel keep it up
I won't buy ANYTHING without checking to see if he tested it.
If I was a dodgy manufacturer I’d be scared of you!
lol. Thank you
GOOD! Hopefully they won't make crap products.
@@ProjectFarm I'm very thankful to my parents for being able to afford having me learn three languages still as a kid, even though i live in a 3rd world country. If it wasn't for me having english as a near-natural language, i'd never even dream of coming across content like this in my country's main language. To give you an idea of how screwed up things are here, major companies (even international ones, like DeWalt and Makita, which we have here) make shady deals to manufacture products of generally poor quality and to not allow any newcomers into the competition, forcing the population into buying substandard products for sheer lack of better alternatives. Importing anything is a major hassle and because of all the taxation, it ends up being prohibitive if one plans to use imported products often. Sometimes i get a bit desperate to leave but i get reminded of our worthless currency and just how little we actually make... There's no escape but dream of a better life through the internet and youtube. Thank you, Project Farm!
@@gionder that is crazy. Hopefully you can take that education and get out and eventually help that country that you are in. At 3 languages (2 plus english) the job market is yours to conker. Places love people who know english and at least 1 other language and you know 2. That is valuable to them.
@Swampy exporting also has taxes and our shipping infrastructure is quite arcaic and inneficient. If one wants to "expedite" something out, we usually go to UPS or other international company, even though cost is a major concern. As an example, i recently bought some supplements from an american heatlh supplement retailer. They had three shipping methods: the slowest one that doesn't include any pre-paid taxes cost me 20 dollars. The middle one said that i was supposed to get my products within three weeks, already counting the time the parcel would spend in customs. That'd set me back 73 dollars. Yeah, major difference. And the most expensive promised to fly through customs and arrive at my doorstep within a week, since it included all taxes pre-paid. My order was worth 112US$. This shipping mode? Alone, 130$. So yeah, i guess i'm not going to choose that one
*DO A WORK GLOVE TEST* some gloves resist heat better which one would be the best for the best price
Thank you for the video idea!
Yes! Piercing, friction, cutting etc.
I worked a few years in yard construction. Concrete products just killed gloves. Like by the dozen. All those little sharp shards of crushed rock in the material plus the ammonia etc from the thousands of bricks...
The only number I looked at when making glove decisions was, in the end, the cut resistance. I think it was because the worst the concrete could do wasn't actually the sandpaper-like scrubbing but instead the particles that were a tad bigger that cut the glove material.
And yeah, technically all sandpapers "cut" grooves the size of it's grain - it's the many juxtapositioned cuts that loosens material.
But the cutting I'm talking about are from specs like 0.5mm in size or so. Huge in terms of sandpaper and the average surface smoothness of landscaping concrete products.
This is a great idea. I’d be curious to find out aswell
Yeah. I'd love to see that myself.
Would be a good test indeed! Dont forget then to include some automotive gloves; oil and brake fluid ressistent.
The testing rig you made is very impressive.
Thank you very much!
@@ProjectFarm good way to upcycle those old riding lawn mower parts!
I do a lot of body work panels and make various things out of 1/8" stock. I grind the weld first with a 36G grinding wheel then blend with 60G or 80G flap wheel. I do in some cases use the 36G as well. The Harbor Freight ones are just about useless. I generally buy Norton which work pretty good but I will try the Diablo. Like another guy wrote " Diablo makes good S#*t" I wonder if your experiments are better than the manufacturer. They seem more real world to me. Great job as always!
I trust this channel so much, you've gotta love how objective he is. Mad respect for his methods and many thanks for the time put into making these videos.
Thank you very much!
If this guy lived in the UK I would be nominating him for a knighthood, absolutely incredible that he does all these tests from his own pocket, total and utter legend. Without doubt the best channel on UA-cam
Thanks for the nice comment!
Not really, this guy gets money from people
@@wades623 yes which is his to spend as he wishes and he spends it on our entertainment and solid consumer advice, if he wanted to use it to buy coke and booze theres nothing stopping him 😉
Does he have to live in the UK to be nominated? I feel like I have heard of many people, especially Americans who have received that honor
@@wades623who does he get money from? You just talking trash?
Everytime I watch a new clip of Project Farm it reamazes me how your simple but brilliant solutions make a perfect testing gear.
Thank you very much!
Test windshield wipers see which is the best brand
Thank you for the video idea!
I second that I have gotten some real crappy blades for my wife's and my car and they are not cheap $20 a piece!
Project Farm no problem!
That's a great idea. I keep buying OEM Honda wiper blade refills and they barely last six months. They're cheap but it's still a pain to constantly have to swap them out. It's still better than buying a $20 replacement blade that also only lasts about six months.
the best wiper blade are made of silicone. dont buy the cheap rubber ones. the silicone ones ive got have lasted for about a year and a half so far and they stilk work like new
Congratulations on hitting 500k subscribers, you absolutely deserve it. 👍
Thank you!!
A useful video may be the best engine parts cleaner/degreaser.
Thank you for the video idea!
I'd watch this if even just to see what test idea he comes up with! That's not an easy thing to measure. Lol
This^
Yes, especially water based vs solvent based degreasers!
@@mentaldan666 Probably something to do with burning sludge or something like that onto bare metal. There'd have to be 3 or 4 tests averaged out to account for the imprecise nature of a test like that. Just off the top of my head. Could also do easier, less subjective tests like spraying each test onto a thin layer of oil on a vertical piece of metal, and seeing if each of them are capable of removing it.
I appreciate you taking such pains to make the results clear even when you’re cautious of calling anyone an outright winner. Telling us YOUR conclusions is invaluable. Thanks
I appreciate that!
I appreciate the in depth and accurate review on the flap discs.
I’d have to say that, based on the posted results of your findings, the Diablo was the clear winner! Thanks.
Loved the video Todd! The best testing channel on UA-cam!
electronicsNmore, Thank you very much for the positive comment! I can hardly wait until your next video this coming Friday! The high current LED light flasher circuit video is impressive! Thanks again
Hands down one of the most informational channels on UA-cam.
Thank you!
Agreed! I'm so glad I stumbled across your channel, as I went from a renter in NYC, with landlords and superintendents, to a homeowner in NJ. Now I'M the landlord/superintendent and I need all the help I can get! Your videos are superb!
I really like that you use different weights and times. I have found from using these products at work for 30 years that any grinding, cutting, and sanding disc it is best to let the disc do the work and not force it. They last longer even though they may cut a bit slower. You may be cutting slower, but by the time you stop to change wheels the total time ends up quicker. Also you put less stress on the tool which lasts longer too.
Thanks for sharing!
I've watched your channel grow from the beginning to now almost 2 million and it's crazy how you have been so thorough with your reviews.
Thanks for watching!
Sir, your channel is one of maybe 3 that I watch every video put out.
Thank you very much!
lol yep, me too
Same for me, too!
Same here!
So many of your videos are brilliant... I love the way you design these tests... you are worth a comment and a thumbs up! Thank you...
Thank you very much!
I've got the same feeling about Dewalt. They have some great, durable tools. But your videos show their consumables to seriously lack in price/quality.
Thank you!
I've been trying to get humans (ME) out of the Work process for years, has not worked yet...............LOL
lol. Same here. It helps for test jigs but not for real work. Thank you!
@John Parrish...you too!!!!!!
Ha ha ha like it 😂
On the road to 1million project farm! You are the best!
Thank you!!
Great video, thanks. How about standard belts for a 3" X 21" belt sander ? I find that on some, the glue strip splits before the belt gets worn. J K
Thank you for the video idea!
I second this idea. You can also see which belt will help your belt sander race along the floor at the highest rate of speed!
The sound of a snapping belt followed by a big bang, squeeeek and alarm is never good! Mind, the belts in question are 1300mm wide and 2150mm long. We had two brands where the joint broke way before the belt was worn.
I work at Canadian Tire, and a handful of the mastercraft belts we get are split right off the truck. I've had to replace one of the belts on a display after a few months, for the same reason.
Yours have to be the most useful videos on UA-cam. Seriously.
Thanks so much!
So once again Diablo is making some great products. Should have known!
Diablo seems to get an A+ on every test. I hope the company continues to invest in staying ahead of the competition!
another vote for drywall anchor testing, the plastic and metal screw type in 1/2" drywall
Great video idea! Thank you
Project Farm if you test drywall anchors, you have to test togglers... they are the industry standard for AV installers.
(BB) 1/4-20 Toggler SNAPTOGGLE Heavy Duty Toggle Bolt Zinc with 1/4-20 x 2 1/2 Combo Pan Machine Screws Zinc (100 Pcs) www.amazon.com/dp/B07CNWHP3J/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_rDhICbMCZABFQ
Don't worry you can buy them in smaller quantities… And probably can find them somewhere locally like a Fastenal,Grainger or Greybar.
wb5mgr I found a BIG box of them at a habitat for humanity restore for five bucks like three years ago; and I still have a bunch and I always use them. I’ve hung probably a dozen TVs; and for any anchor point where I didn’t hit a stud; used a toggler. I haven’t had one fail yet.
@@JosStrange You made out.... Those are the best hollow wall anchors. I used a couple to fasten my boat seat to the boat deck. Solid as can be.
I'd love to see you test out wire wheels. Either on grinders or drills or both.
Thanks for the video idea.
You are by far the best @ these comparison videos. No unnecessary banter that doesn't pertain to the video. Straight to business right out of the gate. Some of these people feel like they have to tell us what the weather is like where they are at, what they had for breakfast, etc. etc. blah blah blah. Who cares!? I dont. Well done sir!
Thank you very much!
Hi! Cheers from Portugal, I love your videos! Can you make a video testing heat resistant spray paint?
Thank you and keep your awesome work!
Thank you for the video idea!
@@ProjectFarm I second the heat resistant spray paint.
+1
@@ProjectFarm PLEASE! ASAP! Have to fix Lesley's stove.
@@PierreaSweedieCat That would be a great test
These tests are extremely helpful. Just shows that all name brand items or products are better than the cheaper ones. Thank you Todd!
Thanks for the feedback.
Could you do a vid comparing diesel anti gel products like 911, Howes diesel treat and others. Great vid as always
Great video idea! Thank you
Adding in with sea foam too
Great video as always! Will you be doing a 4.5" paint stripper disc comparison?
Thanks for the suggestion.
@@ProjectFarm anytime! Thank you for all of the incredible content you put out!
I love your videos man, they're so relaxing. I dont even own any powertools but I love watching this.
Thank you very much!
Great video! Idea for the future: you should test commercial degreasers against dawn dish soap!
Thank you for the video idea!
Yes!! Definitely seconding this idea. Please try Sunlight Original Yellow/lemon in that group, too, please ? My dad used to sell chemicals from a company called National Labs here in Canada, and although he loved their Fasolve degreaser, he still swore that Sunlight was better, especially on organic oils like fish oil ( we used it exclusively to clean the boat and coolers after fishing.)
I would love to see a test video on garage floor coatings impact, abrasion, chemical resistance and so on, or paint on rust encapsulators like por15
Thank you for the video idea!
PF, Hello, but when I saw this with the description, I thought what odd disks, for disk brakes, SA I busted out in LAUGHTER as I saw these. I did REFRIGERATION WORK, & had to REPAIR the fan brackets for frozen food cases , when the busted up , with blocked drains, I carried about 100, different fan blades, but very few brackets, it was hard cleaning with a file , to braze them, so bought a small angle grinder , using a grinding wheel, so quickly clean the sink coating off to braze, & that was the ONLY use I had for the grinder . Cheers From NJ USA. 🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸
Thanks for sharing.
I think abrasive material should be a consideration for the test. From my info gathering there are 3 types: aluminum oxide, Zirconia/Zirconium and the newest Ceramics. A revision and new players on the field should make and excelent test. Also there are 2 types of flap discs Type 29 and Type 27. Thanks for all the hard work.
Thanks and you are welcome! Thanks for the video idea.
This is a great idea, just trying to find a good review on stripping wheels, they are designed for removal of rust and paint. I am currently using a flap disc from Princess Auto to sharpen my mower blades. I leave the blades on the mower, it is doing a great job.
From my experience, these wheels seem to be cutting WAAYYY less than I'm used to for a 40 grit. Could be the pressure, the way the steel is rotating, or another factor. I love the videos! Keep them coming!
Thank you!
Bit late but agreed....with a 40 grit wheel I could probably have made the entire sheet shiny by hand in a minute.
Technique adds a lot of value to the wheels. This was a machine to test the same conditions between the pads.
I am sure you dudes can put more than 5 or 10 lbs into the grinder.
all of your tests are so elaborate and well thought out, thank you for all the hard work you put into your videos i'm always looking forward to the next one!
Thank you very much!
The only thing I’d like to see is when you do the final review, add a graphic like you do for costs, wear, etc add an overall ranking on first place thru last place when your speaking. I hope that makes sense.
I’m nit picking. Your videos are awesome. You do amazing work. I’m happy to watch them and support you how I can. Thanks for what you do.
Thanks for the suggestion!
I want you on my "Zombie Apocalypse" team. "We're gonna take humans out of the equation, what I've got rigged up here is an automatic zombie decapitation device. We'll be testing which mall store katana will work the best, vs these equally dull Home Depot and Harbor Freight machetes." *no sponsors, all equipment was purchased with my own personal food rations, and hand-collected zombie teeth.
lol!
LOL underrated comment of the year!
Interesting test to see how flap discs hold up relative to each other on rust/scale.... In general if you want to extend the life of any flap disc or sanding disc always remove the rust & scale surface first with either a grinding wheel, sandblasting, rust dissolver/ acid or (my preferred method) a diamond grinding wheel. Iron oxide is quite high on the Mohs hardness scale, & is an abrasive in its own right, Emery powder. You can see how glazed the edges of each flap are after the second test, & why they don't cut nearly as well in the 2 min test. Once you get to clean steel a fresh flap disc or sanding disc will cut beautifully.
Mans built a whole rube golberg machine to test, most dedication of any UA-camr I’ve seen
Thanks for watching!
I came across your reviews by accident and I have now watched most of your videos. I even watch the ones I would never have anything to do with or use the product but just enjoy watching. I know, for me, I have learned a lot. Don’t ever let the big brands buy out your ethical and honest opinions. Keep up the great work! Thanks again for the great content!
Thank you!
Thanks for your test results. They help in deciding which products works with the type of job your doing. Nice job!!!
Thank you very much!
you forgot to mention that the warrior wheel almost always has a coupon making it only $.99
Great point! I paid the full price.
10 pack you get 3 flap disk!!! Free gift and 30 or 20% off coupon
I buy the Warrior ones in bulk when there is a coupon they have the .99 cent each coupons and at that price they are good the the price vs material removed.
not a bad idea when grinding metal that is coated with something that gums up the wheel.
I remember watching your first video and thinking, ‘holy crap this guy is as nerdy as me’. I watch these whenever a new one comes out. Thank you for making genuinely interesting content.
lol. Thank you very much!
Those graphs at the end are such powerful information.
Same feel about DeWalt lol
Glad to hear! Thanks for watching.
I appreciate the amount of work and money you put into these. You’re always my first stop when I need to know!!
Thanks so much!
Thank you for putting so much effort and time in those tests amazing, greetings from Germany
Thank you very much!
By far, my favorite youtube channel.
Thank you for all you do. It really saves alot of us.
You are welcome!
I love the fact that you always include harbor freight items
Would love to see how a 3M flap disc did in comparison
I agree. What is your opinion of the 3M discs? I just ordered some of the Cubritron II discs because a friend told me they are amazing.
@@mikelloyd2013 I like them.
@@SealofPerfection thanks, I’m looking forward to trying them!
Cubitron won one of the sanding paper tests he did. I don’t know why he didn’t include one of the 40 grain flap discs. But anyway, he does excellent and fair tests. Easy to understand and great way of not spending money in fancy, but poor performing brands…
@@alexander_konig_coaching Thanks, I don’t think I had seen that test. And I agree that his tests are as fair as can be done. I seldom find fault with any of his test methods and I certainly understand that he has a limit as to the number of brands he can test.
DeWalt flap disc cost twice what it’s worth........ just like every other DeWalt product. Great video Project Farm, thank you!
Thank you!
Agreed. But they do make decent corded angle grinders, keep an eye for online price drops as most stores price match. I recently got 2 new dwe402w's for $49 each!
Lol Amen
I’ve spent 3 weeks in a grinding room straight beveling fittings with a Walter abrasives wheel and out of all the wheels I’ve ever used they work the best after there worn down because they don’t cut as hard it’s easier to bevel fittings
Great feedback. Thank you
Todd you have saved me so much money at this point, I have purchased many of you winners and they do not disappoint. Thank you and keep it up from one DIYer to another test away and give us the best.
Thank you!
Warrior also has 40 grit and zirconia based discs.
Great point!
Can you test best polishing compound?
Great video idea!
@@ProjectFarm cuz i i want to polish my car but i don't know which is the best
Agreed...which is a good go between from 800 to 1000 grit wet dry and say mothers or semichrome etc.
My wife has some flaps that won't wear out and believe me I've tried. Lol 👍 🇬🇧
Funny! Thank you
Well, you must not have got her at Harbor Freight!
Which flaps are you talking about though? Because my initial thought were here downstairs flaps.
Andrei Taran yeah I’m thinking that’s where he was going
So has the postman.
This is the most efficient/ informational/ practical/ channel on UA-cam!
Appreciate that!
Can you test grease?
Great video idea! Thank you
Yes, Pro-Ma grease, assume you can get it in the US?.
Your awesome man been binge watching ur channel the past 8 hrs lol I cant get enough your so informative. KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK👍👍
Wow, thanks!
Again Diablo did well. The Harbor Freight I buy in a mixed 10 pack and get 3 of these flaps under $10. It makes the warrior ones even cheaper worth it at that price.
@bill hill yay! And free multi meter or magnetic tool holder
@bill hill look up hft coupons on the app store. I love it
@bill hill If you can get those at 99 cents you can't possibly go wrong, I guarantee 9 of them would remove more material than a $9 dewalt disk.
@bill hill they have all sorts of coupons and free items with purchase. Its a free app and i use it all the time.
@bill hill Same!
When I seen the title, I was wondering how you were gonna pull-off this test! You did a great job! Thanks so much for the valuable information you provide us consumers!
Thank you!
how exactly would you trim these? (the trimmable ones obviously)
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Myself I just run the edge on the steel, which happens anyway at angles buffing up a weld in a corner etc. Where I like using them most is with aluminum, stainless, clean up work, when you don't want to throw a bunch of sparks... and they'll work on wood if need be.
@@Stikkzz Thnx!
You could use a bandsaw, but be careful the blade doesn’t get too worn down
I would have liked to seen the flap discs from Amazon. Benchmark Abrasives brand. They seem to hold up pretty well and at $2.00/each, it's hard to beat the price!
Thank you for the video idea!
I'd second a test for this company. Our welding instructor told us to buy from this company since we go thru a lot of disks in class and he thinks it's a really good brand for the money.
+1 for Benchmarl Abrasives. Been using their zirconia flap discs for a while now, and they way outperform the HF discs I've tried. I've also used their sanding belts and bimetal recip saw blades with good results. BTW, they have frequent sales, and the flap disc assortment of 10 was FREE with my last order. Hard to beat those kind of prices/offers.
First off, love the videos! Can you do one on popular car waxes/sealants such as turtle wax, meguiars, etc. Thanks!
Thank you for the video idea!
Another outstanding comparison. The last two flap discs I bought were Dewalt and they were just as you say, overpriced and so-so performance. I’m not a big dewalt fan due to a bad experience with an expensive hammer drill that was hardly used and just outside the warranty it decided to let out the blue smoke. After being denied warranty I took it apart and it was a clear manufacturer defect. Improper assembly caused wires to get pinched and the insulation was damaged just enough to short circuit. When shown photos, dewalt basically gave me the middle finger. I now buy Makita drills and hypoid saws, Milwaukee grinders, Bosch routers, Sanders, and table saws.
I’m going to buy a flap disc tomorrow and will be going with diablo.
Thanks so much! Thanks for sharing.
Man I love this channel. I really appreciate the effort you put into these!
I appreciate that!
Can you test the 3M cubitron disks as well I've had good luck with them
Thank you for the video idea!
Project Farm another good brand of commercial grade flap and wire wheels made in the USA and pretty affordable by the box is Weiler. I bought a 10 pack of these from Amazon for about $5 per wheel last year:
Weiler 51210 Tiger X Flap Disc, Ceramic and Zirconia Alumina, Angled, Phenolic Backing, 60 Grit, 5", 7/8" Arbor Hole (Pack of 10) www.amazon.com/dp/B00YXD7ZU8/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_api_i_MN1ICbXPPD1VC
I would be curious if these high end ones are worth any extra.
I use the 3M cubitron discs also, they outperform every other disc I have tried. Would love to see how they compare...
Noce job, i use the walter at work on a daily basis, they seem to be a great product.
Walter did great! Thank you
for what?? im sure theres a product that will work a lot better
@@philtripe work provides them, we use them to smooth welds and debur the edges of metel. They work better then a grinding disk for sure. And there may be something better out there.
I did want to offer a video idea. I’ve gone through a lot of 3x21 belt sand paper!! I bought a few different grit Warrior brands when I picked up my sander for a deck job. The adhesive tape seems to give out, or the belt rips if I would go over a knot in the wood, thick chunk of paint, or the head of a hidden screw that was not countersunk. I did notice a material difference between the blue “ aluminum oxide” and brown “zirconia”. I did get more life out of the blue, and had no tape fails, but rips in every belt. Would you mind explaining the difference in these materials, and if the warriors are just weak compared to better brands? Thank you for all you do!!!
Thanks for the video idea.
Honestly, if anybody needs 2 million + subs - It's you! Great work man.
Thank you very much!
We found the tiger disc takes the most metal off per minute and last a long time. It's popular in the lower Louisiana area.
What stores?
Please someone correct me if this has been done by PF before, but best double sided tape could make for an interesting experiment
Great video idea! Thank you
I would really like to see this one as well
Can tell you the gorilla glue tough and clear mounting tape is a monster and holds like a beast, have used it to hold on a wireless door bell outside, and my son's pop socket to the back of his phone because the adhesive that came with it didn't hold to his abuse.
@@ProjectFarm If you try this one out look for a brand called Crest! They make auto body supplies and I always reached for their tape over the 3M stuff
Good job. I love those wheels. I did a lot of business with a truck tank shop back in the 70’s and one of their mechanics gave one of those before I even saw them in the stores. That thing lasted forever. Love them.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks 👍
Well I just bought my last DeWalt wheel I guess
Thank you
We can all thank Robert Bosch a German engineer, and his amazing R&D team for all the amazing products. Also he's worth almost 100Billion for a reason. Great quality products, priced accordingly. Diablo products rock!
Great point! Thank you
I usually criticize your tests pretty hard....but this was an outstanding set up. I like how you describe VALUE at the end as having a variety of definitions. Very nice work!
Thank you very much!
fack off bro
pulkin pulman no thank you
I'm convinced you're a madman.
But you're so thorough and fair that I'm a Patreon supporter anyway.
Well done sir, I learn something from all your videos.
lol. Thank you for supporting the channel!
Am I going crazy or was the speed on the first harbor freight disk fun really slow?
Great video! Hey, I’m seeing ads for USB rechargeable batteries, have you tested any rechargeable batteries of any type?
Thanks!
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I’ve used the HF ones before, they aren’t bad for the price.
Thank you!
really glad to see someone is doing this type of comparison video! im building a truck right now for my youtube channel, and want to spend my money in the best way possible, so it looks like i might be picking up a diablo flap disc haha! i really love their sawzall blades! absolutely unbeatable.
Thank you for the feedback!
Dang dude that's an elaborate setup hinges, drills, wood, zipties...
Thank you!
I was particularly impressed with this set up, where did you find the red contraption you used for this set up? I particularly like how it not only pivots but can also be clocked at different angles, super cool but absolutely no idea what that came from, lol
I'm offended because this test came across as a bit - abrasive - to me.
...(big sigh)... (looking down, slightly shaking my head no)...I know...
Just kidding, of course. Well done and thanks for showing us the better deals!
lol. Thank you!!
Just grit your teeth and bear it!
And don’t be rough on yourself.
comments like this really grind my gears.
Stop flapping about it.
I thinking testing the Benchmark brand abrasives would be awesome. They sent me a trial pack awhile back and I have been hooked on them. Prices are fair and the disks hold up well in my experience. I would like to see how they hold up to your testing.
Thanks for the video idea.
Very good service. My go to.
I came here to check before I go and buy a pack and I'm glad I did. Your videos are always awesome
Awesome! Thank you!
could you test winter diesel fuel vs summer diesel fuel and see if there is a difference?
Depends where you live, every other station has its own blend and especially in winter, real cold places has more "anti-gel additives" (paraffin etc) than warmer places, but generally most places where you can get to a cold place on one tank of diesel or it might be cold during the next month has some... More cold equals less diesel and more additives. generally theese additives results in less chance of freezing/gelling, but also a loss of power and worse fuel economy.
Testing different fuels from your area might help you out slightly, but odds are that all the stations in your area has roughly the same blend as the climate is roughly the same. Also testing it versus the summer fuel at the same station has its own problems, storing diesel fuel over time without it degrading is not easy, it won't degrade much over half a year in a plastic jug but enaugh to affect the testresults.
Thank you for the video idea!
Test wood glues. I'm curious if I even need wood glue or if I can just use superglue. Your videos are awesome.
Thank you for the video idea!
Never seen trimmable flap discs before. How do you trim it exactly? Its hard plastic.Great test as always!
Thank you! I should have demonstrated how to trim the discs. Walter has a video on how to trim the disc.
@@ProjectFarm Hey, ya know it usually gets trimmed down naturally anyway. Unless all you're doing is flat work, and then you can just turn them on their side now and then while you're working. By the time the disk gets a little smaller and so worn it's really not worth all the effort to bother too much... in my opinion.
I probably would have never thought Diablo was this good if I didn’t start watching project farm years ago.Thanks for his in depth reviews and honest opinions I feel like we can all trust that he’s telling us the truth 🙏.I really can’t speak for others but I trust his information on everything he reviews and that’s why I come here before purchasing anything!Thanks for staying true to us and not taking that extra few dollars to lie to us…and I mean this genuinely!
Thanks so much!
The warrior has a coupon that makes it $0.99.
Thank you!
Yet still overpriced.
@@Thirdbase9 haha