MORE ISSUES with the $800 Volvo V70 + First Mods!
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- Опубліковано 6 вер 2024
- Today I'm chasing more issues on my freshly engine swapped manual transmission Volvo V70 as well as doing the first performance modifications to it with some BC Racing coilovers and an exhaust system.
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More Volvos please! I have never heard of this problem before, but the online Volvo community is fantastic for "debugging" these cars. Cheers from a S60 owner from Sweden ✌
I get a notif, i watch right away!
By the way the vacuum related issue is more than possible. With time, the hoses connected to the brake vacuum switch can get "crusty" and cause such symptoms. A brake booster issue is possible but not a common thing on these cars so look at this as a last resort. A big problem with time on these is a bit of oil in the throttle body flaps around the center "ring" which causes the same symptoms as you are having when the car is at operating temps. Make sure that is clean as well it is very easy and straight forward. The PCV box itself wont make such symptoms but the hoses related to that system could very well be a cause!
Since it's not turbo, checking the intake pipe is quick and easy, make sure that there's absolutely no cracks whatsoever AFTER the MAF. Any entry of air after the MAF would cause such symptoms.
Concerning the oil passage, it won't make idle related issue similar to vacuum symptoms but i don't know if you checked it but the "tube" like hose on the engine that we saw once you took out the pan does clog up on your gen (ONLY IF THE CAR WAS SITTING FOR A COUPLE MONTHS OR +)
A bit far fetched but you can also check the A/C compressor clutch. Unless you are certain it is a vacuum related issue, then a bad/seizing/seized A/C compressor can lead to such symptoms when at operating temps as well but not very common.
Keep up the beautiful videos, I couldn't believe that you were into Volvos. Your main channel was the reason why I got better equipment and started my own channel lol. Congrats on the S60R! Can't wait to see what you do with it :)
I really appreciate the kind words and all your input on this!
Throttle body came off and was fully cleaned when I swapped engines, but im still not ruling it out since this model has proven to be so problematic.
I also did smoke test the entire intake system, but im not sure if this is sufficient. My AFR's look good. I would think a vacuum leak would cause more changes to the LTFT, but that could also easily be the issue still. Will look at this again.
The AC compressor is very interesting, its definitely original and I hadn't considered that. More to look into! Thank you. :)
@@wheelemverb Of course! Eager to see your other videos Will :)
Brake booster is a issue on these models. have you over 200t-miles on it it will start to leak and then you will hear a sound when your off, if you push the brake the sound will stop... Had this 2 times always around 300t-km.. standars failure. You can also clean the throttle buddy,.. If you have a magnetti throttlebody this will fail also at this mileage around... thats normal issue... A bosch will not fail, have 446.000 on my and still running...
this guy kinda looks like that photo guy Willem Verbeeck
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bought a 05 D5 v70 (UK) back in october which has started my car modification journey and finding not just your other channel 2 years ago for photography you're now modding a v70 on this one...the god damn JOY I have is unreal. Me and my mate both have V70's and are watching every upload! looking forward to the future of this channel!!
For me that idle issue sounds like two ways of problems:
1. Throttle body trying to die, I think you got Magneti Marelli that are giving similar symptoms - probably electronic after it gets hot, starts to lose its own mind.
2. VVT solenoid is dying, you can check it by, cleaning it and connecting it straight to 12V to check if it clicks.
Yea i have the Lamborghini throttle body. I ran the vida test on it multiple times and it comes back with 2% different which should be good, but I agree I dont trust that throttle body.
I cleaned the VVT solenoid, new gasket, new VVT hub as well on the intake (exhaust is non vvt). Might have to try and manually supply power to it.
Thanks for your input! Much appreciated.
I had a similar issue with my 06 S60R and it turned out to be an EVAP vacuum hose part no. 30757307 on FCP Euro
Run the test while the car is hot!
I have a 2003 V70 had a similar issue, after changing the fuel pressure sensor . Low idle and no more engine shutoff finally went away. Hope that helps our fellow Volvo enthusiasts.
That’s exactly what my first thought was. My 06 XC70 was doing the exact same thing, changed the pressure sensor, and five years later symptoms have never been back 👍
That S60R tho 🥵
If you're still hunting down the idle issue, I had a near identical issue on my old 2000 S70, and it was the throttle body and plate were dirty. After cleaning them up really well, it cleared the issue entirely.
I had the same kinda problems with my S60 -07 and it was because faulty engine mount! It has little vacuum hose to it and it was leaking
The ETM you have is a Magnetti Marelli unit and they’re known to have issues with the tps sensor. Xemodex does a send in repair and warranties for life. It’s expensive but that could be your fix. My guess is it’s trying to account for the change in vacuum and the plate is sticking or wrong value being recorded.
Brake booster ejector, switch and the lines can develop leaks, or even the booster itself. Smoke test the vacuum system if you’re sure that’s the issue.
OMG, Willem. I'm glad you can have such a positive approach to this thing, it would give me nightmares. I had a Volvo 240 wagon, something like an '82, and it didn't have diagnostics like yours does. At some point I ran out of luck on an issue that was severe, hired the best mechanic I could find, and he found a wire shorting to the car frame inside of some long hollow channel someplace. Similar nightmares decades later with a BMW Z3 convertible. At my age, it's Hondas, Toyota trucks, or Mazdas for me if I ever buy another used car that's not an EV. Cheers! I love this series! ✌
if it has the 3 way vacuum valve in front of the air box check there, if it messes up itl give you these kind of issues
One easy thing to check is the evap solenoid under the intake manifold. Take it of and see if you can make it click with a 9-volt battery.
I had problems with idling, ended up changing every vacuum line and the pcv system. I also had low fuel pressure on live data, so i changed the fuel punp unit and filter. Now it works really well and doesnt throw any codes.
So glad to see the catback, very much an easy choice for performance mods. I just bought my first volvo after working for them for almost 2 years. After wheels and tires and maintenance upgrades a 2 inch cross country performance lift and an IPD catback exhaust are for sure my summer projects.
Make a home made smoke machine out of a jar, soldering iron, and a sock. It's the best tool I've ever made and used on my volvos as the turbo ones can have a lot of vacuum lines.
I did have the issues you are describing once before in an S80 I had. Somehow some time a workshop had done some work on the exhaust and put the o2 sensors back in the wrong order so when it was hot and idling at traffic lights it would do the same as yours. But that was on a 4 o2 sensor configuration, yours would be a lot harder to wrongly put back together as there are only 2.
Good luck, finding vacuum leaks is very easy with a little smoke machine.
I did smoke test it! No leaks. As for the O2 sensors, I took the car apart, so anything is possible.
@@wheelemverb I would 100% have either yourself or a mate in the passenger seat and replicate the issue now. Have Dice and the laptop connected and ready, check data in the ECM > maf / air signal, lambda o2 feedback and short and long term fuel trim data. You can view / log up to 10 items. You will be able to see what is changing when the issue is occurring vs when its running fine.
it's simple
>wheelemverb uploads
>I watch
Replacing the whole throttle body fixed a similar idle issue in my -01 V70, common issue (I was told) in early mk2 V70’s
Will is the coolest. So inspiring.
Willem, ik sta verwonderd te kijken naar wat je allemaal kan en durft. Goe bezig!
Vava
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On the idle issue. You bought this with a blown engine- I'm guessing it's 2.5 with the thin walls. Eurojulien did a great video on why they blow and he mentioned clogged fuel line/fuel filter. Has that been changed on this one since you've had it? You may have swapped out the engine- but if the problem was back at the filter- the issue that caused the engine to blow in the first place could still be there.
easily my favorite videos on youtube right now! Killing it, and i am the furthest thing from a volvo person.
Thank you!
man this is so cool. just found your car channel and started watching all the videos.i have such strong memories to the v70 bc we used to have a couple of them in my childhood...i wasnt aware up until today that the car actually has a 5cyl which explains why i liked the sound of the engine so much as a kid. love how well the videos are produced and its super interesting to watch even tho i only understand half of it. cheers from switzerland :)
Just found your channel, I have an 03 v70! watching through this, there are a lot of common issues these cars share, and will say I'm kind of glad to see! love the video, keep up the good work!
Wouldn’t it be funny if this grew bigger than your other channel
I wouldnt mind watching that happen lol
I love your name man
Love this series more than I should. If it makes you feel any better, I have a 2005 S40 2.4i that does the same thing, just not as often as it sounds like yours is. I found that it had a bad vacuum pump but replacing it didn't solve the problem. Wouldn't be surprised if I have a small vacuum leak somewhere though and perhaps that's what could be wrong with yours. Hope you can figure it out!
This is uncanny. I recently picked up an 01 v70 2.4 n/a with the m56 5speed. I got it for the same reasons you did: I wanted a more reliable version of the P2 platform. No turbo,no awd, no sunroof - none of the things that usually kill them. I’ve been slowly picking away at the same issues you are. I diy replaced the PCV, installed BC coilovers, currently doing an R brake swap, timing belt, resealed the motor, tons of little stuff. But I’m chasing this erratic idle. Same exact symptoms as yours. I’m missing the clutch position sensor (and the wires were jumped same as yours). My assumption is that it is a vacuum leak somewhere but haven’t quite found it. I hope it is not PCV related because that was a pain. I’m looking forward to see if you solve it and will let you know if I do as well. Till then- I’m going to level out the idle with my foot on the pedal. Cheers and great stuff.
This is hard to believe 😂
That’s insane though! Absolutely keep me posted. Send me a message on ig
@@wheelemverb I solved my idle issue. I did a few operations at once so it’s hard to pinpoint: removed my evap purge valve and cycled it a few times with a 9v battery- I think it was stuck open. Cleaned and lubed the preheater-valve in the air box. Mine was completely stuck, and my throttle body was clean, but I put a touch of oil on the pivots and cycled it by hand a bunch. One of those solved it!
Have you checked the front and rear vaccum powered engine mounts yet?
Ayn vaccum issues can be caused by these...
all five cylinder volvos encounter the same issue, the A/C compressor goes by it is only a matter of time, best thing to do, is to replace it. Great content, keep up the good work!
There's a seal in the booster that goes bad. You would be able to here a hissing from inside the car. I also believe there is a brake pedal position sensor that can have a seal go out.
my 2003 Volvo v70 has 370k km and it's still running like a beaut :) if they are well taken care of they can run Forever pretty much
10:57 that happned to me at a Shucks once years ago. Man, after that? I started checking my oil for a seal BEFORE I bought it.
It might be worth cleaning the Throttle body (Gasklephuis in Dutch). Helped with my S60 for a while. After a few months it started idling strangely again and I had to replace the total Throttle body. Fixed it.
"throw the car off a cliff", if you work on cars you know how often you get this feeling, but you always seem to fix it dude, good job!
im worried this channel will be inactive once you finish the restoration and go back to your primary channel, you really have some potential here to build sometrhing great in the car content creator scene bromie
Thank you! Ive got a weekly video for like... 8 weeks... So were good :)
these are the cleanest car videos ive ever seen...can we do one on my jeep
LMAO
There are two vacuum lines from the exhaust manifold on the right hand side check if they are there and intact had the same issue those vacuum lines controlled the idle
I had the idling issue, and my shop had to remove throttle control stuff and send it out to be rebuild
Always use OEM parts, even junkyard OEM parts are better than the aftermarket junk. I've seen crazy symptoms with aftermarket MAP sensors. Check the VVT system live to see if power is going to it. ALSO YOUR AIRBAG MUST BE REPLACED NOW!
try the cables near the maf for the idle, i just wiggle them around and car is fine again those calbes are 20 years old and all hard
Need more on the 2.4L NA!! I too have fitted a custom exhaust on mine that I want a bit louder. I don't want it to be overly loud though as just like you, it will be my daily.
It's bad that you're getting issues but happy it means we get more videos (sorry!)
Don’t let this distract you from the fact that Hector is going to be running three Honda civics with spoon engines, and on top of that, he just went into Harry’s and bought three t66 turbos with nos, and a motec exhaust system.
The Pegasus rims look great on V70.
Ive had that that same idle /stumble issue for a while with my S60r. finally fixed it by replacing my VVT solenoids and replacing the gaskets for them (they have a small screen in them that can get clogged)
5:32 HONDA GANG 🥵🥶
Hell yeah someone else modding one! I have the exact same car also on bc coils! Saved mine from the junk yard!
Fantastic video. I am still chasing an occasional erratic idle on my 2004 S80 2.5T five years after it started. The dealer and a Volvo specialist said different things (clean throttle body)(bad plugs) neither helped. Then they said fuel system (pump) (followed by fuel pressure sensor) and then they gave up. I ended up trying an ambient air temperature sensor (which improved my fuel mileage tremendously) but I will still get the occasional idle drop or slight race before things return to normal (the dealer also did the PCV). It's annoying, but I've come to accept it as "Volvo life". I'm excited about the S60R content. I have a V70R and would appreciate hearing your thoughts on the R. Good luck with the idle issue.
You’re telling me the air temperature displayed in my gauge cluster contributes to the tune??
@@wheelemverb I learned that the P2 Volvos have two ambient air temperature sensors. They are both located in the exterior rear view mirrors. If you feel under the mirror, there will be a small blister with a tiny hole next to it. That's the ambient air temperature sensor. Weird right? According to the forum posts, the sensor in the drivers side mirror helps to set the primary fuel mixture in the ECU at start up, and can cause the car to run poorly or in a "safe" mode from a fueling strategy standpoint. This sensor has a range of operation that can trick the ECU into thinking it is either way hotter or colder than it really is. My car had a bad sensor for 7 years and never set a check engine code. I got 23 mpg and assumed it was normal for the car (2.5T, FWD 3500 lb car). I finally got a check engine light last summer because the sensor completely shorted out. After replacing the sensor I got no less than 27 mpg on the highway with a max mpg of 32. According to the forum posts, the ambient temp sensor in the passenger mirror works the same way and feeds the temp display in the dash. Both sensors are inexpensive (less than $50) and when I spoke with the Volvo dealer parts guy, he said the sensors die on a regular basis and you know if it's been changed because the black plastic cover for the mirror bolts on the door panel has broken retainers. I hope this helps!
That’s fascinating, in my s60r the temperature outside always reads at -44 degrees 😂
Definitely will be changing those soon now knowing that it affects the fuel mixture. Thank you
My V70 (2.4 Diesel) has vacuum engine mounts in the front and back of the engine, you should check those as well and make sure they don't leak vacuum
I also has a vacuum issue and after replacing the vacuum pump seal, engine mounts and all the vacuum lines it was fixed, but then again I have a diferent engine.
Yoooo this is the earliest I ever get here love the videos inspired me begin trying out film and when you started this channel I had to subscribe thank you señor
I see a Noty for wheelemverb, i click on the noty and watch immediately
MVP Hector
Your Idle Issue is the electronic throttle body witch won't show on Vida Volvo hide any problems to do with the electronic throttle body It's known as an ETM and you will have to buy a new throttle body and have it programmed by Volvo to solve your issue it's common on V70,s from 2000 to 2002 I hope this helps you out and take care
plsss keep going with this series ❤
So funny I watched your film photography channel and was served this video - immediately was like "weird... this guy talks just like that verbeek film dude." Low and behold youre one in the same. Awesome car, awesome channelSSSSS (plural)
U can also use atf for powersteering systems 😉
Can I ask you why this Volvo was in desperate need of an engine swap? My S60 jumped time and almost everyone told me I needed a new engine but I ended up pulling my cylinder head out to port & polish her up instead. Definitely worth it for the fuel savings alone from this job.
I’m enjoying this channel more than your photography channel 🤫
That clutch position sensor is 67.99USD on FCP EURO
Your issue I think it is a break booster seal, that leaks vacum, I had this in v70 d5 and changed brake booster. Check can you hear it from inside of cabin when pushing break pedal.
I have a cone air filter in mine. I want to go to the exhaust next. This is cool to watch.
@4:08 Volvo didn't make the power steering pump, either, as far as I can tell from my limited experience with supply chains. I wonder if that "magical fairy juice" from Volvo even made a difference worth mentioning. 🤔
Stoked the story continues
check your fuel pressure regulator on the fuel rail
The exhaust will get louder and have a better Sound after some thousand miles, especially after alot of hard driving
It already had 1000ish miles during that sound clip, been driving with it for quite some time.
I had the same problem and no codes on my 2.9 but in my case it was the vvt solenoid
Goed gedaan Willem 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽
for 800 dollars in sweden you get a v70 with a goodish engine but i can see why they are more expensive over there since volvo v70s are not so uncommon in sweden
Beautiful looking car, love the white colour. I've got the same looking car, but mine is a 2.4. Diesel in dark blue. 2003 reg. These cars are absolute beasts, so lovely to drive. Only 163bhp but still really fast, beginning to wonder if it's been remapped when I bought it as it seems to drive a bit quicker than I thought. I'm in England, there's still a lot of these Volvos still about in petrol and diesel, I would say 50/50. It's the same with the S60 too, lots to choose from. I've had the S60 and S80 before I bought the V70, the V70 seems to be the fastest one out of the 3. But they are all great cars. The V70 and the S60 were used for many years by the UK Police, I remember getting stopped by a couple of these about 20 year's ago, had to sit in the back while getting questioned lol. I remember thinking how great looking they were back then!
Might be a throttle body, pre lift models have issues on 200k km
I had problem with idling, had to send throttle body to repair
I ran the vida test and it had great results multiple times for the TB but I think I need to dig into that further.
Kinda lost interest in photography lately, i loooove those volvo videos tho. Really cool to see this since I have the same volvo in another color.
S60...a whole new Volvo experience......yes.
Do you have a hard breakpedal when the car is not running? Maybe then you have a small leak in the breakbooster where the engine sucks air from and have some trouble with running.
I have that problem now with my v70. I thought it was the one way valve that should keep some vacuum in the booster while the engine is not running so you got a boosted brake pedal when you start the car the next time. I changed it but my brake pedal is still hard when I start the car later after I did get out of the car. That means there is leaking vacuum somewhere and very likely it is the booster I think. I did not replace it yet but it is in my to do list.
Nice video Willem!
Hey Willem, not sure if you've been asked before, but where do you get all the money to buy these cameras and cars?
Clean the throttlebody. Maybe it's oil in the electrical board
throttle body needs cleaning , it causes idle issues if dirty
Car is looking awesome 👍
Can we get a video on the cold Air intake? How you did it😜
Hey! Love your videos. I’m noticing you have the white aluminum cross bars with the black rails. I actually happen to have the black cross bars. Do you wish to trade?
Wheelem Verb /vərb/: It's what you do, Wheel 'Em
How much is the coil over conversion? I have an S60T and the suspension is making all sorts of dreadful noises. I have replaced bushes and control arms - so springs and shockers seem to be past their use by date. Mine is a low kilometre example -I have just ticked over 115K's. It was a one owner car. But -they did not maintain certain items like suspension.
nice you should get a turbo 240 next
Its the ETM
Vida sweep test comes back to 2%, so I was doubtful of it. But after reading the comments I’ll give it a shot
@@wheelemverb my v70 was like that and was the etm. Try to reset it. With o
Ignition on, but not running take the fuse off and put it in again. Cheers!
I agree. ETM. I did not have diagnostic software. Figured it out by process of elimination. Got the unit rebuilt by Xemodex, so reprogramming to mate to the car was not necessary.
I will try that! Thank you
@@wheelemverb Very frustrating to troubleshoot because the engine control does not trap the errant feedback position condition and generate a code. Volvo must have assumed it will never happen. Not a good assumption. The variable resistor element that is part of the throttle assembly wears out and is unable to provide a position feedback signal. The throttle position cannot be controlled precisely without feedback. Which is why the idle is whacked, and why the vacuum wanders, because the throttle position is wandering. Makes perfect sense when you replace the unit. Oh, that's how it is supposed to work. New/rebuilt units use a "contactless" position feedback, so that particular failure should never happen again.
STRAIGHT PIPE IT LMFAOOO
s60r goes hard
Are you still working in this issue? I sounds like you have a vacuum leak when hot, a smoke machine would probably be the best tool for this once you get it hot
I went threw the same route as you with exact same car. I just let it go xD Fucking shit box (idles rough, needs a lot of attention). Older volvos are more amateur mechanic friendly with less electronic modules. That's why i am dedicaded to old Subarus and left Volvo. Keep up the good work.
2.4 140 or 170 hp ?
Maybe I missed it, but did you say you got an alignment after the BC coil install?
Cool project man.
Thanks!
@@wheelemverb oh yeah, i literally picked up this same car, minus color a week ago. Planning on suspension, brakes, maybe a port and polish ;]
@@wheelemverb Maybe try taking your car to the local dyno for a tune?
I have the same issue on my my2007 v70. It has the modern throttle body on it.
I noticed the same thing, when using the brake, the idle drops. Mine did 414000 km, I tried to fix the issue at 300k. I tried the MAF, Vacuüm lines, clean the sensors and throttle body. I thought, maybe it is the brake booster, but this is not easy to replace, so I wanted to be sure. Eventually I gave up because I got used to it.
I'm curious if you find a solution!
It doesn't seem to be getting worse either which is interesting. Dont give up. Sounds like were in the same boat haha.
change guys seal in brake booster, its hard to do it from inside, without removing but its possible
it occurs especially in hot days, because of thermal expansibility
Are you referring to the seal that lives on the pedal side of the booster?
@@wheelemverb i think he is referring to this one ua-cam.com/video/saX-GG6s1Ck/v-deo.html. I changed it myself and for the love of god take the brake booster off of the car because if you are over 1.45 m tall you will have one hell of a bad time haha
The exhaust note is fine,u need to embrace the "luxury" aspect of ur car. I mean it's a touring for christ sake,like u said it's not gonna be fast N/A(which no not fast but could be quick and fun)and u certainly won't be doin canyon runs,so make it a slick lil,luxury cruiser. 15-20yrs from now when ur still COMFORTABLY enjoying ur volvo ull have other cars with MUCH MORE aftermarket support to make fast.
Where'd you get the exhaust? I'm looking to do the same to my 850 wagon. Just make it sound sportier, not crazy loud. Great videos man!
Link is in the description. Only went to Europe because they dont make many exhausts for this car. I think there are plenty options for the 850 wagon.
@@wheelemverb I've got to do more research for sure, but from a quick search I like the way Simons exhaust sounds on other 850s
Where did you get the exhaust from?
Do you use a dice with vida? Or just an obd2 connector ?
Throttle body needs clean up
What did you use for the live data?
Can anyone direct me to mods for a 2016 S60 T5? Thanks
Veryy nicee volvo's😍😍v70