Really well thought out and put together video Eric. Nice work. I didn't even know you could print caliper patterns from brake manufacturer websites. That's amazing.
As someone who has been doing youtube, and video editing/production for 2.5 months now, I can tell you that you need about 1/2 of the zoom cuts (less is more, just like HDR filters) All joking aside, excellent and well produced video! You make a quality product. You deserve a LOT more views (I do my part)
About as good of an explanation that I've ever heard on the topic. If you saw my video of me putting new wheels on, then you saw my horrendous explanation about offset. I'd be good at math if it weren't for all the numbers ;)
So, what if you don’t have the wheel to check the big break clearance ?... lol like I’m online shopping. So I wouldn’t be able to print anything to check , and even if I did, I couldn’t check it because I won’t have the wheel. So what do I do?
Look at the video around 1:24. It's all relative to your car and fenders. On a passenger car, you're generally going to have some positive offset. The Enkei RPF1 in my video is +22. They line up with the fenders pretty well.
What if you have stock wheels from a 68 mercedes and it does not say the offset and you're trying to upgrade from 15" to 16" wheels and then you buy a new set of wheels and they hit the tie rod ends and bump stops?
Sounds like you've already bought some wheels that don't fit? Sorry I don't have a great answer for you. I'd measure everything first if you plan to change to a different wheel and the clearances are close.
RevMatchTV yeah I ended up having to buy a second set of wheels that fit. Just was annoying to waste the money on the first set and have tires remounted. But live and learn.
Always need that little extra room for sticky weights. I've seen many new tires installed and when the tech pulls the car out the calipers knock off the weights.
It's not possible without using a separate brake proportioning valve. Right now with my CTSV fronts I have too much front bias, but it's not bad. When I install the Z32 rears, the bias will be pretty good. Z32 has similar bias to the S13/S14 OEM one so it's really not bad. Are you racing or just street driving?
My s14 is my daily but I want to do time attack/road racing I was asking cuz I was wondering if I can use the 6 piston calibers without a brake booster and also wondering if I can use the 4 pistons in the rear with the z32 set up
I'm setting up my car for road racing as well. The 6 piston is actually too much brake for the weight of these car. I'm running a Cadillac CTS-V 4 piston front setup and will install a single piston Z32 rear. 4 piston will be WAY too much brake in the rear. Here's a 'how to' playlist on the swap. With the 4 piston CTS-V in the front I can lock the front wheels at 100mph without much difficulty. Zero fade. I'd recommend 4 piston front, single piston rear to maintain the correct bias. All a brake proportioning valve will do is send less pressure to the rear brakes. Feel free to hit my up on Instagram or Twitter if you want to chat more. Happy to help!
There's no hard number, but spacers will have a negative impact on bearing life and also stability under braking. Low offset wheels will also have somewhat of the same effect. Ride quality is more of a function of how stiff the sidewall of the tire is. Thanks for watching!
Thanks! I'm looking at steel wheels for winter - same size tires same wheel specs except 46 mm vs 50 mm stock offset. Will this offset change result in any handling or wear difference?
What's up Revmatch, this a good video, i don't whant to have any problem so this video help me, but I'm not sure about what is my choices. I have a 2015 dodge charger R/T i know that for the rear is no problem I'm going from 245 to 275 with hellcats replicas, my question is on the front i wonder if a upgrade from the 245 to a 255 is good choice with the hellcats replicas, not sure about the offset of thos rims because i don't have it yet...i think it should be ok but what did you think. Thanks bro....nice video by the way.
I'm not familiar with the wheel and tire combos on that car. If you check the forums, you should be able to find more information. 245->255 seems pretty reasonable if there is clearance.
Noticed you have tein coilovers. I recently installed a set of tein flex z two weeks ago and there's clunking as I hit dips on the rode. Tightened all the collars and the nut on the top damper. Any idea what this can be? Thanks
Vincent Grepo Are you at the top of the height range? Can you get them to clunk when the car is on jack stands? Is it all 4 or just from one corner? Are there any missing washers? If you can't track it down check the the forums and try contacting your vendor.
Car is lowered, but not by a lot. There is no noise when pressing down onto all four corner individually. However, it is noticeable when I drive over a small depression on the road. I had tightened all locking collars and the damper nut. Could it just be that the car is flexing under pressure? If so it may be the sway bars/endlinks? All arms are new as well... maybe the ball joints don't have enough grease? Thanks!
Honestly, I'm not sure. You'll have to just keep working on diagnosing. Could be any suspension piece. Seems less likely to be new shocks, but who knows...
This might be a silly question, but how much do you care about wheel aesthetics vs functionality? I wonder if most people spend too much time thinking about looks and not enough about performance. What's your take?
Depends on if the wheel or the tire is close. The tire is a lot more likely to flex under load and rub the suspension. If it's wheel to metal I think about 3mm would be a minimum.
looks like your calling dibs on the rpf1s i need some too, would plus 35 be better than plus 22 for an s13 square setup looking to possibly run 245/45r17@revmatchtv
No worries :) I think I actually need some spacers for my front wheels, maybe like 10mm or so. I don't know why but they sit quite far in compared to the rear, I think it's just the shape of the car/fenders.
Yep :) The wheels are the same offset all round i'm pretty sure. I know I need to lower the front a little more so that might even close up the gap a little bit also
Correct me if I am wrong but to my knowledge those are not proper hubcentric wheel spacer. A hub centric wheel spacer has a lip around the inner opening of the spacer(link to example below) for the wheel hub to rest on. this takes a lot of the weight off of the studs. i.ebayimg.com/images/i/191374501410-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
Agreed, a hub centric spacer with a lip is better as it does transfer the weight correctly to the axle or spindle. I had to use the example I had handy.
Chlorophant For power down yes, but doesn't affect lateral grip much. I'm swapping in a 1.5 way Nismo diff in an upcoming video since the welded diff is causing understeer.
thank you, i've been so confused and 7years later this vid still is so helpful
Two minutes into the video and I am impressed. Heck of a great edit, pacing is crazy ... well done!
Appreciate that Brian! A massive amount of time went into this one!
Really well thought out and put together video Eric. Nice work. I didn't even know you could print caliper patterns from brake manufacturer websites. That's amazing.
You can print them for Brembos. I haven't checked other manufacturers yet.
As someone who has been doing youtube, and video editing/production for 2.5 months now, I can tell you that you need about 1/2 of the zoom cuts (less is more, just like HDR filters) All joking aside, excellent and well produced video! You make a quality product. You deserve a LOT more views (I do my part)
Appreciate your comments! Thanks for checking out the video!
Very well done Eric! Lots of good and concise information!
Thanks Gearheads!
Nicely done. For some reason people often over complicate this topic. I think this will help people sort it out. 😀
That's my goal with this one. I hope it's as clear as possible.
I feel like this channel has a lot of potential
I got 20in black rims 40 mm will they stick out on my 2015 Nissan Altima
About as good of an explanation that I've ever heard on the topic. If you saw my video of me putting new wheels on, then you saw my horrendous explanation about offset. I'd be good at math if it weren't for all the numbers ;)
Thanks Because Miata! I wanted to make the best explanation possible 😀
Well, you succeeded, my friend. Take care...
So, what if you don’t have the wheel to check the big break clearance ?... lol like I’m online shopping. So I wouldn’t be able to print anything to check , and even if I did, I couldn’t check it because I won’t have the wheel. So what do I do?
So if i want my wheels to be more aligned with my fenders, i need negative offset?
Look at the video around 1:24. It's all relative to your car and fenders. On a passenger car, you're generally going to have some positive offset. The Enkei RPF1 in my video is +22. They line up with the fenders pretty well.
RevMatchTV oh ok! I got the diagram wrong, thank you!
2017 maxima. Enkei TY5 19 x 8.5 with 35 mm offset. Will a BBK fit?
What if you have stock wheels from a 68 mercedes and it does not say the offset and you're trying to upgrade from 15" to 16" wheels and then you buy a new set of wheels and they hit the tie rod ends and bump stops?
Sounds like you've already bought some wheels that don't fit? Sorry I don't have a great answer for you. I'd measure everything first if you plan to change to a different wheel and the clearances are close.
RevMatchTV yeah I ended up having to buy a second set of wheels that fit. Just was annoying to waste the money on the first set and have tires remounted. But live and learn.
Mesquite Automotive Sorry man. I've made way more than my fair share of expensive mistakes... 😬
Always need that little extra room for sticky weights. I've seen many new tires installed and when the tech pulls the car out the calipers knock off the weights.
Yeah, I've seen that happen too! Thanks for commenting on every video man. Much appreciated!
How to do adjust brake bias with the z32 master cylinder
It's not possible without using a separate brake proportioning valve. Right now with my CTSV fronts I have too much front bias, but it's not bad. When I install the Z32 rears, the bias will be pretty good. Z32 has similar bias to the S13/S14 OEM one so it's really not bad. Are you racing or just street driving?
My s14 is my daily but I want to do time attack/road racing I was asking cuz I was wondering if I can use the 6 piston calibers without a brake booster and also wondering if I can use the 4 pistons in the rear with the z32 set up
I'm setting up my car for road racing as well. The 6 piston is actually too much brake for the weight of these car. I'm running a Cadillac CTS-V 4 piston front setup and will install a single piston Z32 rear. 4 piston will be WAY too much brake in the rear. Here's a 'how to' playlist on the swap.
With the 4 piston CTS-V in the front I can lock the front wheels at 100mph without much difficulty. Zero fade. I'd recommend 4 piston front, single piston rear to maintain the correct bias. All a brake proportioning valve will do is send less pressure to the rear brakes. Feel free to hit my up on Instagram or Twitter if you want to chat more. Happy to help!
Nice video - how much variance from stock offset (using same width/diam wheels) is considered acceptable before affecting steering/bearings/ride etc?
There's no hard number, but spacers will have a negative impact on bearing life and also stability under braking. Low offset wheels will also have somewhat of the same effect. Ride quality is more of a function of how stiff the sidewall of the tire is. Thanks for watching!
Thanks! I'm looking at steel wheels for winter - same size tires same wheel specs except 46 mm vs 50 mm stock offset. Will this offset change result in any handling or wear difference?
Brendan Mold 4mm is pretty minor. I don't think you'll have any issues with that.
What's up Revmatch, this a good video, i don't whant to have any problem so this video help me, but I'm not sure about what is my choices. I have a 2015 dodge charger R/T i know that for the rear is no problem I'm going from 245 to 275 with hellcats replicas, my question is on the front i wonder if a upgrade from the 245 to a 255 is good choice with the hellcats replicas, not sure about the offset of thos rims because i don't have it yet...i think it should be ok but what did you think.
Thanks bro....nice video by the way.
I'm not familiar with the wheel and tire combos on that car. If you check the forums, you should be able to find more information. 245->255 seems pretty reasonable if there is clearance.
Noticed you have tein coilovers. I recently installed a set of tein flex z two weeks ago and there's clunking as I hit dips on the rode. Tightened all the collars and the nut on the top damper. Any idea what this can be? Thanks
Vincent Grepo Are you at the top of the height range? Can you get them to clunk when the car is on jack stands? Is it all 4 or just from one corner? Are there any missing washers? If you can't track it down check the the forums and try contacting your vendor.
Car is lowered, but not by a lot. There is no noise when pressing down onto all four corner individually. However, it is noticeable when I drive over a small depression on the road. I had tightened all locking collars and the damper nut. Could it just be that the car is flexing under pressure? If so it may be the sway bars/endlinks? All arms are new as well... maybe the ball joints don't have enough grease? Thanks!
Honestly, I'm not sure. You'll have to just keep working on diagnosing. Could be any suspension piece. Seems less likely to be new shocks, but who knows...
This might be a silly question, but how much do you care about wheel aesthetics vs functionality? I wonder if most people spend too much time thinking about looks and not enough about performance. What's your take?
How close is too close to my coil over/suspension?
Depends on if the wheel or the tire is close. The tire is a lot more likely to flex under load and rub the suspension. If it's wheel to metal I think about 3mm would be a minimum.
Great suggestion
Excellent editing! Looks great
Appreciate that Dan!
Thanks for your video! Helped out a lot.
Could add one more question, "4. Is it gonna create too much scrub radius?"
So did you fit wider tires being that both wheels are 9 inches wide? BTW are you selling the rpf1s?
+Frank Bustamante Yes. The Enkeis have a 255 tire which is what I want. Yes I am selling the RPF1 set
looks like your calling dibs on the rpf1s i need some too, would plus 35 be better than plus 22 for an s13 square setup looking to possibly run 245/45r17@revmatchtv
Frank Bustamante You guys can PM me on IG. I want to sell local l. Shipping will be too expensive.
Richard G. PM me on IG if you are interested in the wheels. instagram.com/revmatchtv
Nice Video, great info, and thanks for the wheel offset calculator links...
Ok i got some info the rear new rims are 20 x10 with a offset of +18 for a tire that is 275-40-20 Delinte or atturo 850 brand tire.
Thanks again.
ORLANDO FLORES Good luck!
Great video bro, full of awesome info :)
Thanks Michael! Means a lot =)
No worries :) I think I actually need some spacers for my front wheels, maybe like 10mm or so. I don't know why but they sit quite far in compared to the rear, I think it's just the shape of the car/fenders.
Michael Ronin For your BMW?
Yep :) The wheels are the same offset all round i'm pretty sure. I know I need to lower the front a little more so that might even close up the gap a little bit also
Great video very informative 👍🏼👌🏼
Awesome!
How much are the 17/9 wheels
Queso 509 Somewhere in the low $200 range.
Awesome, I've needed this info!
Thanks man! Let's meet up at a track event soon!
Correct me if I am wrong but to my knowledge those are not proper hubcentric wheel spacer. A hub centric wheel spacer has a lip around the inner opening of the spacer(link to example below) for the wheel hub to rest on. this takes a lot of the weight off of the studs.
i.ebayimg.com/images/i/191374501410-0-1/s-l1000.jpg
Agreed, a hub centric spacer with a lip is better as it does transfer the weight correctly to the axle or spindle. I had to use the example I had handy.
i finally get offset! thank you man.
It’s a confusing topic! I wanted to simplify as much as possible.
Another thing you can do for good traction at the track is get a helical diff.
Chlorophant For power down yes, but doesn't affect lateral grip much. I'm swapping in a 1.5 way Nismo diff in an upcoming video since the welded diff is causing understeer.
easy to understand video, thanks!
Awesome!
Silvia is looking nice!!!
Thanks! I still have it
Wow so imformative thank you
Nice one man!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Top video !!!🤟
Good video
Chlorophant Appreciate that :)
+Chlorophant Thank you for watching!
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you’re a smart dude, thanks a lot!
Anton Balashov Happy it was helpful!
good video
Appreciate that Ross. Thanks for checking out the video!
Thanks i will.
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Chew on that!
really helpfull
8mm...lmfao..I wouldnt worry about it