I really enjoyed it! My nearest temple is smaller, I thought it was interesting how the Orem temple has the different stories (levels) with cherry blossoms at different stages of growth. Growth is a great word to summarize, for me going to the temple is about growing spiritually closer to God, to my own family, and even the rest of the human family. I am curious, have you looked into the difference between Protestant and Latter-day saint views on the Tree of knowledge of good and evil? I believe they are quite different. The Book of Mormon teaches "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy" (2 Nephi 2:25). Adam and Eve partaking of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is described as a transgression, and also, a necessary step so that mankind could "be," come to Earth and learn and grow through good and bad experiences. (It's hard to learn if you can't make mistakes!) After been redeemed from the resulting sin through Jesus Christ, and choosing to participate in ordinances of His church, we believe we can gain access to the Tree of Life as we use our agency to choose good over evil.
Really enjoying your amazement - and am sharing *my* amazement (as non-LDS / non-Evangelical) - seeing a dedicated Protestant (yourself) being pulled toward the Mormon faith. I don’t see people asking the following, so I will: Looking to 2024, what do you surmise the Percent chance is that you will join in full by this coming summer (2024)?
I LOVED how you talked about growth and the sacredness of growing food. Planting seeds and putting them in the dirt and having faith! Oh I love thinking about this. Thanks for sharing!!
I can’t get over the fact that you are reflecting our faith traditions and beliefs as they truly are. I have NEVER seen it. All I hear from non- member Christians is endless bashing and twisting and manipulation of sacred truth so that it sounds awful. Bless you my friend, bless you!!!! I wish this video could go viral so that ALL who see a temple would feel peace ❤
I can see why so many Latter-day Saints are interested in your channel. Your sincere interest in understanding faith in God is so encouraging to see. People of faith need to build each other up as you do!
We are evangelical (my husband is a pastor here in Utah County) but we just toured the Orem Temple last week, and Mark and Monica were also our tour guides! They were super sweet and taught us many of the same things you mentioned here. This was my first time inside a temple and it was indeed very beautiful, and very educational.
Alma 32 is the scripture that best describes my the process I went through spiritually as I was turning to the Lord at 17 years old. “28 Now, we will compare the word unto a seed. Now, if ye give place, that a seed may be planted in your heart, behold, if it be a true seed, or a good seed, if ye do not cast it out by your unbelief, that ye will resist the Spirit of the Lord, behold, it will begin to swell within your breasts; and when you feel these swelling motions, ye will begin to say within yourselves-It must needs be that this is a good seed, or that the word is good, for it beginneth to enlarge my soul; yea, it beginneth to enlighten my understanding, yea, it beginneth to be delicious to me.”
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and you taught me with your insights. They were beautiful! Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness as you are doing these.
How do you feel when you anything involving the LDS church. Is it a comforting, loving feeling, like coming home? It’s the spirit that will convert you. You will feel it and know it’s different than anything else you have ever felt. You will know it for a certainty. God bless you!!!
I was a member of First Presbyterian Church until the age of 24 when I became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The gospel instruction available in a temple is just amazing!
One of those original Norwegian Immigrants to first settle Orem was my great great grandfather. They joined the church after hearing from the missionaries and reading the Book of Mormon and left everything to come to Utah to be with the saints. I think about this all the time, what would I be willing to sacrifice for my faith and testimony? thanks for this video and God bless!
It’s sooooo nice to see someone represent us accurately for once! People automatically listen to rumors about us before getting to know the real us. People did the same to Christ. It’s happening to his church. Satan will do all he can to tarnish anything christ has. Thank you!!!! I love the gospel of Jesus Christ. All are welcome.
I studied most all of the LDS theology and history over 10 years. I only share to others what is in the printed Joesph Smith History... this presentation stops all curious seekers from seeking any more about this organization called LDS or Mormon. Facts matter to people.
The “gospel”? Galatians 1:8-12 NKJV But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
I am a convert to the LDS Church of almost 50 years. It's been a great journey. I appreciative your fair and open minded approach as you explore the LDS Church and share your thoughts. I wish all of our other Christian brothers from other faiths were as Christian you are and ...as I hope to be.
David I loved you mentioned the bridal room. I live in Los Angeles and my daugther was living in Utah when she was plannig to get married in the Salt Lake City temple. And because I couldn't miss many days in my new job, I missed all the wedding preparations. Everything was done without my help, opinion or ideas. i was stroggling with money and I was sad that I was not able to travel to help or participate in the small details. I felt out, not included at all. I was able to traveled one day before the ceremony. I was a convert and I have never been in a sealing ceremony before. The brides go to the temple in regular cloths and they change in the bridal room. I thought "oh no I will be out again" . To my surprise the temple assistant asked for the mother of the bride to help with the dressing. Only mother and daughter!!!! I was so happy, I enjoyed every minute with my only daughter in the bridal room. Maybe for someone this sound silly, but for me was a lot because I am one of many mothers that must work to help with the family economy. Unfortunatelly we missed a lot of important events at school or other activities, We appreciate the small things with our children.
@mariatrejo1248 - I'm glad you got to share that special time in the bride's room with your daughter. I too have an only daughter. She was sealed in the Manti Temple and it was just her and I in the bride's room. It was especially meaningful to me to be able to be with her in that special place because I had been inactive for many years and had worked hard to be able to go to the Temple with her. The bridal room was a very special bonding time to talk with her and assist with dressing. I loved not being rushed. Just as we were leaving, another mom and daughter came in. I hope they got the room all to themselves just as my daughter and I did.
@mariatrejo1248 & @micheleh3851 Thank you both for sharing this. It made me reflect upon my own experience in the temple when I was preparing to be sealed to my husband. I made the very difficult decision to not have my earthly mother present for the sealing due to a long history of abuse, but weeks before the ceremony, in a completely different temple, I had a beautiful experience as I was pondering wedding plans in the celestial room. I won't go into specifics but it was such a touching and unforgettable reminder that, "Truth is reason; truth eternal tells me I've a Mother there". Thank you both & God bless.
“Growth”… I just love that! As I was listening to you share your insights, it became clear to me that has been my experience with the temple. I have been attending the temple for 32 years. For the vast majority of that time I have attended not understanding the symbolism and covenants, but trusting the promises our dear prophet has given if we attend often. I’ve needed those blessings so I began this past year attending as often as my schedule would permit. Often kneeling before I go, telling the Lord, “I choose you. No matter if I understand all the symbolism or things taking place. I want You to be my God. I want my life to reflect that He is the most important thing to me, and attending His holy house will show my heart.” This past year, finally miracles are unfolding and His love signs are being poured into my life like I never dreamed. Growth… yes, growth as we exercise faith in Christ and trust His Plan. It really is otherworldly. I’m seeing our Lord Jesus Christ in every covenant, every single aspect of temple worship. …but not only that, I’m discovering His beautiful, perfect, merciful heart. ❤️☀️ …now I run to the temple! And when I leave, I’m walking 3 feet off the ground, feeling strengthened and cherished by my God.
That’s really cool that the word that came to you describing your temple visit was “growth“. That’s actually a main theme of the Orem Temple. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I heard that throughout the lower levels, there are many depictions of flower buds (Namely cherry blossoms, I believe). As you walk through the upper levels, the higher you get the more the buds are depicted as blossoming. In the celestial room, they are fully blossomed. So the word you chose to describe your experience fits perfectly!
As to wearing a wedding dress, a bride often does wear a simple white temple dress. I did. Anything worn in the Temple will be appropriate, somewhat simple. For many, the brides room is a beautiful place for a the bride to prepare. Spiritually and physically.
If you haven't yet seen, on the church's UA-cam channel is a video tour of the temple in Rome led by two members of the Quorum of England the Twelve Apostles. It nay provide additional insights.
I have to say, your faith journey is truly exciting!!! I've been enjoying all of your various videos! What an amazing story you have to tell! Your channel has truly brought me closer to Christ. Thank you!
You are so awesome! Thanks for your insight! My wife and I are exited to see the Orem temple for the first time with some of your comments in mind:) the savior is aware of you and your journey so much and is guiding you back home. Keep up the good work and continue to have faith that you will find more light and growth!!
David, you have a gift of recognizing the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Thank you for sharing that gift. I admire your heartfelt and humble search for learning and truth which is apparent in each of your videos. I love learning from your insights. I have followed my own path of discovery which has led me to receive a firm spiritual witness that The Book of Mormon is, in fact, the word of God and another testament of Jesus Christ (similar to the New Testament). Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ did appear to Joseph Smith and called him to restore Christ's church, in its fulness, upon the Earth. With it, God's priesthood has also been restored and living prophets continue to teach and guide His children today. The covenants and ordinances you spoke of in this video are a key component of those teachings. As you come to an understanding of those ordinances and covenants, your understanding of God's immense grace and love for all of His children will grow. It is a beautiful plan of salvation and happiness prepared by Heavenly Father and fulfilled by and through the atonement of Jesus Christ to bless and save ALL of His children. I know God is guiding you by His Spirit through this journey and that your willingness to share with sincerity will bless many people.
Loved this video, David. I am constantly amazed at your ability to draw symbolism and nuance to your experiences and explain them, like with the growth of the cherry trees, or family trees, or application of knowledge, or the Father's house having many rooms. You are an excellent teacher. I look forward to your video of your visit to the St. George Temple too.
It is such a breath of fresh air for someone to give an honest unbiased opinion. Your conference attendance video caught my attention a while back. Most of what I have seen in media growing up towards my beliefs has had a similar feel to those holding signs and shouting outside the conference center. I appreciate your perspective and honest reviews. It’s great to hear your journey and analysis.
Gods church will always have a temple. It’s like the embassy of God away from the world. I first heard that from David Alexander. I agree! An embassy of God in this earth to help us be on the covenant path in the unity of faith.
I have had the humble blessing of attending the temple to worship Our Savior Jesus Christ for many years. I have found the temple to bring the most cherished blessings into my life. I pray that your journey of faith continues and that the Lord continues to bless you with further light and knowledge. I love the spirit and tone that you bring to these messages. You have a special spirit about you. Thank you for sharing.
Your genuine curiosity about and appreciation of our faith is wonderful. Quite refreshing compared to Hello Saints, where his exploration is more cerebral than spiritual.
I was thinking the same thing. I am a convert and know what it is like to be a skeptic, but I not taking that approach and just seeing the beauty with true curiosity as he does
I agree. Pastor J is nice but he is a fake imho. I now believe he is hoping and trying to lead away anyone who will come. If you listen closely to his verbage you will catch his errors. Imho.
Hey David, thank you so much for your videos. I appreciate them very much. I almost saw all of them and it was so very impressive to me, how open and fair you are to all of the churches, always searching for the good (and there are a lot of good in all of them). Today, I felt prompted to comment your video. Like you, I came from a protestant background but had questions that could not be answered. It's now more then 40 years ago, I met the missionaries of the church of Jesus Christ of LDS and my questions got answered one after another. When I see your eyes, telling about the temple, I can see this glimpse of light in your eyes and I remember my first time when I learned more and more about the church. It seemed like an endless new dimension of light, joy, truth and knowledge opened up to me, and the puzzle pieces slowly came together. You are on the way to find something very special and unique. Go on searching and asking the Lord to lead you home. He knows you. He loves you. He has a plan for you. It's so much ahead for you. Amazing, to hear, that your great grandfather was a member of the church. Perhaps he ist reaching out to you?
I'm soaking all his videos up! While I'm hearing him talk-- in my mind's eye I see him being married/sealed for time and all eternity to a beautiful woman, serving as such a righteous priesthood holder, and raising a family in the Gospel. I forget he's not of our religion. Definitely has light and love. I wish he'd check out a mid-singles ward for an upcoming video.
Planting seeds is not only an act of faith, but the gathering and eating of the fruits are synonymous of gathering knowledge, strength and becoming tied to the land by putting down roots and creating a family. On the other hand we become more tied to God through the plan of happiness which comes from nurturing feeding and loving our families. 😇♥️
You are an inspired and truly earnest follower of Christ. Thank you for sharing your discoveries and the grand vistas you desire to explore and learn from.
So nice to hear your testimony and to listen how the Holy Spirit is guiding and teaching you as you learn more about the House of the Lord. As you learn and have shared we too have been edified and have grown
I think “growth” was a great insight. The temple ceremonies symbolize our journey and “growth” from our pre-mortal life through our life on earth, and our eventual return to God’s presence through the atonement of Jesus Christ. The tree of life can symbolize immortality, eternal life, the love of God, the atonement of Jesus Christ, and the presence of God. The symbolic gestures and elements of the temple ceremonies are not to be taken literally, they are symbolic and are meant for us to ponder what is the underlying meaning of the symbolism, what we can learn from it, and to point our thoughts and hearts to Jesus Christ and His atonement for us.
As a LDS I love your videos, I learn from all of them, it feels good to know we can have Christian friends not of our denomination in this space that is usually toxic towards us. Great video brother, God speed!
David, our family loves your videos and your humble and seeking spirit. I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in college and access to the temple has been a beautiful way to incorporate the Savior into my life. Thanks for these wonderful videos!
I grew up in Northern California, and the Oakland Temple sits on the hillside and it is lit up at night it’s breathtaking. I’ve heard it said that on the foggy nights, the temple glow can be seen by pilots flying overhead. If you ever get to see it at night, it’s glorious!
Years ago, the city tried to force the church to turn off the lights because it was *too* bright... or they wanted to reduce light pollution... or something like that. The FAA actually intervened and said that the pilots had been actively using the Oakland temple as a marker on their flights! How cool is that!
My husband served in the California Oakland Mission and heard that about the boats depending on the lights and requesting them to be turned back on. We actually went there on our Honeymoon. ❤
David, you are a breath of fresh air. Many others who try to explain our beliefs are not so kind, accurate, trustworthy and humble as you are. My faith journey started with being a split of Catholic and Calvinists. I investigated seven different Christian churches and studied world religions. The totality of the confusion pushed me towards agnosticism. Eventually, I ran into a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and that person encouraged me to investigate. When I heard about living prophets, the Book of Mormon as another witness of Jesus Christ, Christ, visiting America, etc. the Spirit witness to me in such a powerful way that I could not deny the Church's restored doctrines being correct. I have had many many witnesses since then as well Many teachings of the Church make absolute sense. For example, all of the Christian churches that I'm aware of believe that life begins at physical birth. Since God is all powerful, all knowing, all wise, and if life really began at birth, then why didn't God create us all to be like Jesus? The only logical answer is a found in Ecclesiastes 12:7 where God says that when we die our body RETURNS to the earth and our spirit RETURNS to God. To RETURN to god, we had to live there once before. Jeremiah 1:5 talks about Jeremiah being foreordained, set apart and sanctified by God to be a prophet unto the nations. That also is only possible if Jeremiah was once before in the presence of God to have that ordination actually occur. There are other scriptures that likewise support pre-Earth life doctrine. There are other key doctrinal pieces that I could share, but this is enough for now. I have a great neighbors. I wish you could move in next door. You would be a such delight to have in our community. God bless you. ❤️
So glad you’ve been able to experience the temples. Your knowledge has grown so much from your first ward visit. Your head is trying to reconcile everything you’re learning with what the Spirit is telling you, too. I think you’re doing a phenomenal job at being open and not rejecting things, just because they’re not what you had traditionally been taught.
Your post was made on the same day as the St. George Temple being re-dedicated. That is a very special and sacred meeting where a dedicatory prayer is given. Then the Temple can be open for the ceremonies for ordinances and covenants. Looking forward to the video you have for that special Pioneer-era temple. I love your thought process and learning more about your own ancestry and faith. I love your term "growth" and then relating it with "fruits" and "trees" and "orchards". It all conveys so much of the purpose of the House of the Lord, and the progress we each make through our mortal journey. I think you might find as you ponder that there is quite a bit of scriptural foundation for these terms that help you had to describe your experiences so far (ie, The fruits of the spirit; Elijah the prophet turning the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers; know them by their fruits; the Lord's vineyard; and so on). I love your updates and how respectful you are. Not only in your posts but also in your desire to learn more and give the respect of time and attention to what you will share.
David, I love both your keen powers of observation as well as your ability to think metaphorically to make connections with what you are learning. Alma 32 of the Book of Mormon definitely came to mind when you were referring to seeds and growth.
You are so intuitive when you said it is about growth. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is all about growth and progression. We are all continuing to learn..
Are you still in Utah county ?? I live here and would love to meet you! Your story is so inspiring:) I shared it with my mother over the summer and felt the spirit so strongly listening to you describe how you feel discovering the lds church. It would be great if you came to church in Springville sometime
Echo that invitation! My husband, now 37, joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when he was 23. We'd love to swap stories, thoughts, food, etc!
Interesting that your grandfather joined the church just before he passed and now you're Interested and intrigued about the restored gospel. He might be inspiring you from the other side. I wish you well in your further research. I found this version of the gospel when I was a catholic teenager and haven't regretted it since and I'm 67 now. Answers all my questions on where we came from, why we're here, what's next and importantly to me, what's the rest of the universe for? We can't be the only planet with Heavenly Father's creations on it. What a waste of space and resources that would be. Thanks for your perspective and research. I'm looking forward to your future videos.
I live in Orem - thanks for your visit! I'm excited for the Temple dedication. My daughter turns twelve the day before the dedication. Twelve is the age when Latter-day Saints get to go to the Temple for the first time and she is so excited! Thanks for your wonderful and curious attitude. Feel free to contact me if you every need someone to discuss more academic subjects! I think what you're doing is great.
This video was beautiful. As a member of our faith I've always felt immensely appreciative of knowing the Lord has carved out such sacred places to draw closer to Him and bring our entire heavenly family in unity one with each other and our perfect King😊 Thank you for sharing!
Love your thoughts!! You might really enjoy reading Alma chapter 32 in the Book of Mormon comparing the word of God to a seed that needs to be planted, nourished, and grow within us- becoming a tree from which the fruit of Eternal Life is picked. My mind was drawn to this chapter when I was listening to you. God Bless!
How beautiful it is, David, to watch the transformation of your life as you study the things learned during your 52x52 visits, especially as you see and feel and understand some of the truths Latter-day Saints stand for. Loved you "fruit-basket" analogy from the ushers in the Orem Temple! The "full basket" of fruit from the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is a wonder!
I really appreciate your response to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. You really demonstrate real curiosity, honesty and humility, unlike others who cannot make a compliment without following it up with a dozen criticisms. I look forward to more videos from you whether it be about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or any other Christian Church. May God continue to bless you.
Dear David, the LDS church should use this video, or at least parts of the video, in explaining temples to non-lds visitors! Love how open and respectful you are
Awesome video. The covenants we make in the temple: A covenant of obedience to keep the commandments, A Covenant of Sacrifice - Sacrificing our time and talents to lifting others, Covenant of the Gospel, this is a commitment to live the gospel of forgiveness, charity, and service. A covenant of chastity, to keep our minds and bodies clean from images and actions while staying faithful to our spouse, and a covenant of consecration, this is a covenant to dedicate our time and talents to building up Jesus Christ's Kingdom here on earth. Making and keeping these covenants binds us closer to The Savior, gives us peace, comfort, and power to have the spirit and go out into the world to do good. There are so many blessings in store for anyone who is willing and wanting to make and keep covenants with Our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ. The Lords Temple represents a place to GROW, just as you have so eloquently described. Great video!
I love your enthusiasm for the temple, it is so refreshing to hear a voice of faith and curiosity. I love your learning pyramid, I couldn't agree more. There is wisdom in sending 18 and 19 year old kids out into the world to teach and proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. My mission changed my life, I learned so much. God bless
Thank you so much for your kind and respectful commentary about the Orem Temple. Your knowledge about all religions has grown so much since you began this journey. Your understanding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is amazing. Thank you. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
David, you are absolutely right about the Church incorporating a “unique personalized theme based off the town or area.” The Laie, Hawaii temple is constructed out of the local coral. Like other LDS temples, absolutely stunning!
I also had the opportunity to be in Utah and attend the open house of the Orem Temple. The stain glass windows in the baptistry with the ducks and cattails was stunning. Then to see the progression of growth with the cherry trees is amazing. When I was growing up un Utah Country, Orem had many cherry orchards. Growth is a good word in describing not only the church, but how our own life can be. How nice to have a tour guide to help you better understand the temple. Yes, Jesus Christ is the PEARL....yet sometimes we focus on the box.
Thank you for your thoughtful, beautiful, deep contents on your visit. I think you caught a great theme with the word growth. Connection is another I associate with the temple. And then covenant. I think they all mesh together. Temples are such special places to us. Thank you for treating them so reverently.
As a former Catholic, I loved my first, temple trip. Washington, DC Temple is gorgeous. As a child, I thought the cafeteria was very neat. ❤️ My father felt a "tingly feeling" in the Houston, Texas Temple Open House 🏡. My father is not LDS and is not a religious person, generally.
Hi David, Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful video! Recently I saw on UA-cam another video of a lady attending with some of her children the dedication of the St. George Temple. She called her eight minutes video The Veil was Gone and Angels were in Abundance. God Bless You!
When I read the title of the video, I immediately thought... What bad thing is he going to say about the Church or our religious beliefs? The internet is full of lies and misunderstandings of the Church and especially of the pure gospel of Jesus Christ. I have been a member of the Church since 2007 and I can say: I have just grown spiritually in every way. I know I have a lot more to ponder and research about all of these things. I'm Brazilian and I'm the first convert in my family, I thought that only the living members were my family. When I entered and experienced the sacred ceremonies of the temple, I realized that my understanding of the gospel of Jesus Christ was very limited in my ignorance. Well, in any case, continue with your research, you really managed to express very well how we feel about God and his house.
What a cool video, dude. I'm happy to see you set your introverted side aside this go around and took on the full experience. I think most of us may have thought on your visit to Bentonville, that they just rushed you through because tours were closing up and so you had to self-guide yourself, which seemed out of character for something like that, so it's good you got the full experience. Speaking of your Bentonville tour, I keep remembering the Cardinals you talked about during that visit. Never forget the Cardinals. It's interesting you focused so much on TREES in this video. So, far as I know, it's not Church doctrine anywhere, but there's a rising belief now that the tree is very significant and symbolic of something that was lost millennia ago during the time of King Josiah in the Old Testament where people had taken the idea of GODS to an apostate level and we're creating God's, just as they did after Moses ascending the Mount to receive the Ten Commandments. King Josiah, who was a political figure and not a prophet, was trying to return the people's focus to the Commandment that there's only one God that you should worship. The issue is, there became such a fanaticism with monotheism that somehow that knowledge faded. In the Hebrew Bible, Elohim immediately mentioned, which means "Head of the Gods." Elohim also speaks to another God, Jehovah, and says "Let us make man in OUR own image" but that only explains man for MALES, what of FEMALES? Who is God talking to if there's only one? Well, there was a female there, a Heavenly Mother with Elohim, by her man, assisting in his decisions of the process, and helping with those decisions. Jehovah says upon completion of everything "It is good" with the exception of one, a law of heaven "It is not good for man to be alone. I will make for him a helpmeet" and then it was good. He created women after the likeness of the Gods (female). So, as we look at the tree more and more, it's considered...... taboo or unclean to speak of and creates an uncomfortable conversation for members but, trees provide fruit that sustain life. There is a rising belief that the tree is very symbolic of our Heavenly Mother, and that women give life sustaining nourishment that helped us grow from infancy and kept us alive. So too does the tree. It's believed our Heavenly Father used the tree of life to symbolize the other Godly figure in our lives we don't really ever talk about, simply because we flat out have and continue to reject it and why would go want what he holds so dear to him disrespected like that. Is it not any surprise how woman are held in such respect and high regard in many cultures in the world? Also, as Jesus said "If ye have seen the Father, ye have seen me", Jesus was born in the similitude of his Father. Now, nobody is implying Godliness here, but it's believed Mary was in the similitude of her Mother, that she carried the image and likeness of our Heavenly Mother. Just interesting your biggest take away was the importance and how much the tree stood out to you. Also, the relationship after partaking of the fruit, wasn't severed, oh no, sir, it flourished. Man could now know good from evil, it was all part of the plan. It wasn't really a sin of commission, but of omission. We had to be separated from God in order for this test to be successful, we had to learn on our own to develop faith, and learn and choose right from wrong and learn to depend on God. "Adam fell that men might be, and men are that they might have joy." -2 Nephi 2:25. Adam and Eve weren't multiplying and replenishing the earth in the Garden of Eden, they couldnt. Eve recognized and knew that they couldn't do that until they ate the fruit that allowed them to fulfill God's plan, they were ignorant, they didn't know happiness or sadness, they had to know sadness to understand happiness. Finally, you had a lot of impressions and you went through the temple, even undedicated, it's just a building, but you got a taste of what it's purpose is, revelation. You get that while you're there and then when you leave you further ponder and study that out. Oddly enough, that's how God seems to communicate best is through symbolism, because one thing can teach an infinite number of lessons depending on where we're at in life or the questions we have, that bit of symbolism can speak to us in different ways and as we learn more about that, we learn new lessons as well. It's pretty wild. As you read through the Book of Exodus, you read how Moses is instructed to build the Tabernacle and even the Tabernacle vestment for him and for Aaron and the sons of Aaron, the priests, all the symbolism in the manner and materials that are used to construct it. In the usual protestant meeting house, there's the cross, that's usually about it. A Catholic Cathedral has a lot of images and symbolism in some, but the Tabernacle and this the temple built first by Solomon had an abundance of symbolism because that's how God works, in everything he's ever done, even our Pre-Existence is filled with symbolism. The Book of Mormon is filled with symbolism in ways Joseph Smith could have never come up with, especially in the 90 days he translated it that we'd still be learning things today. Those cardinals you saw in Bentonville, symbolism, to you they were symbolic communicating to you in a way only you would understand, personal, to you. With regards to Exodus, the Tabernacle was bronze on the outside and as you got closer to God, if was gold. The Idaho Falls, Idaho temple is shaped like a cake kind of build. The temple wraps around the Celestial Room and when you are in the Celestial Room, you're right under the spire that points to the heavens symbolizing your individual prayers in God's presence asscending directly upward to him directly. Happy to see it was a better experience this time, but, we learn more as we're ready to receive more and you were ready to receive more.
So glad you could make it to the temple open house. I sent a VIP inzvite earlier but at the time your schedule was too busy. So glad you figured out how to make it happen. Would love to hear your perspective on meeting with the young men or women missionaries. I think people would be interested to know what that is about since they seen them everywhere! Thanks again for the great videos.
Thank you for sharing your insights into things we may take a little for granted. I love love love the temple and appreciate your analysis too and giving us a fair shake. A few things that might not have been obvious from the tour is that as you ascend through the levels, light increases as well as a physical ascension.
You are awesome. Lucky those that are your friends. Thank you for your kindness! You are one of those whom God is happy with thanks for your respect toward the church of Jesus Christ!
You'll notice in the sealing room of each temple there are large mirrors positioned across the room and directly opposite from each other. In some of the smaller temples they are also in the celestial room. If we look into the mirrors we can see in front and beyond this for eternity because the reflections bounce off each other. These mirrors represent the vast expanse of eternity and are there to remind us that the ordinances performed in that room do not end in death but continue throughout all eternity.
You are so sincere and I just get so interested as you share your honest and unvarnished thoughts and feelings. It's beyond refreshing. I hope one day you spot a cardinal designed into a temple that you are visiting ... I think you already sense that your great grandfather is watching over you and guiding your journey. Thank you for being truly open minded, insightful, and so well spoken that we can all be blessed by your courageous vulnerability. 🙏✌️❤️
You articulate many of the sensations I feel when entering a temple. Or even when looking at a temple-- especially a pioneer temple with which I have ancestral connections!
I'm enjoying following your journey. You're so humble and sincere, keep praying and God will guide you home. Hint: you may not find it where you expect.
Congrats on your baptism! The Orem temple is my temple. In December I got to volunteer and welcome people into the Orem Temple. It is a beautiful temple. Since you're a member now... if you make it back to Utah I would highly recommend going to the Provo City Center Temple and doing baptisms. It's one of my personal favorites, and it has a really cool history behind it. I've been watching a lot of your videos today and they have been faith inspiring for me.
Thank you for your insightful comments. I’ve seen in other episodes that you bring out new ideas from what you say that I learn from. In this one two of your analogies really felt correct to me. One was your emphasis on growth. In Latter-Day Saint teachings, we came to this life to grow and progress. That is very central to the plan of salvation. The other was your mention of the learning pyramid. Growing up in this church, we are given opportunities to study and teach the gospel from an early age. A big part of that is to help us learn and internalize these principles. It was so good to see you capture that in the fantastic way that you did. Thank you. I also love the way you have handled other churches unique strengths and individualities. Again, thank you, and I hope this quest continues to be a blessing in your life.
I grew up in orem, next to a cherry or hard, and our family has a Norwegian heritage. I'm excited to visit the temple there. Thanks for your thoughts David. Love your channel!
What did you think? Let me know below, I'd enjoy hearing some interfaith dialogue and what temples means to you.
Thank you so much for these visits. It helps those of us raised in the LDS Church to see outside perspectives.
I really enjoyed it! My nearest temple is smaller, I thought it was interesting how the Orem temple has the different stories (levels) with cherry blossoms at different stages of growth. Growth is a great word to summarize, for me going to the temple is about growing spiritually closer to God, to my own family, and even the rest of the human family.
I am curious, have you looked into the difference between Protestant and Latter-day saint views on the Tree of knowledge of good and evil? I believe they are quite different.
The Book of Mormon teaches "Adam fell that men might be; and men are, that they might have joy" (2 Nephi 2:25). Adam and Eve partaking of the fruit of the tree of knowledge of good and evil is described as a transgression, and also, a necessary step so that mankind could "be," come to Earth and learn and grow through good and bad experiences. (It's hard to learn if you can't make mistakes!) After been redeemed from the resulting sin through Jesus Christ, and choosing to participate in ordinances of His church, we believe we can gain access to the Tree of Life as we use our agency to choose good over evil.
Really enjoying your amazement - and am sharing *my* amazement (as non-LDS / non-Evangelical) - seeing a dedicated Protestant (yourself) being pulled toward the Mormon faith. I don’t see people asking the following, so I will: Looking to 2024, what do you surmise the Percent chance is that you will join in full by this coming summer (2024)?
I LOVED how you talked about growth and the sacredness of growing food. Planting seeds and putting them in the dirt and having faith! Oh I love thinking about this. Thanks for sharing!!
You called the temple a sacred space. That means a lot.
I can’t get over the fact that you are reflecting our faith traditions and beliefs as they truly are. I have NEVER seen it. All I hear from non- member Christians is endless bashing and twisting and manipulation of sacred truth so that it sounds awful. Bless you my friend, bless you!!!! I wish this video could go viral so that ALL who see a temple would feel peace ❤
It can go viral, just share it and then have your friends share it. That’s how it all happens.
I can see why so many Latter-day Saints are interested in your channel. Your sincere interest in understanding faith in God is so encouraging to see. People of faith need to build each other up as you do!
We are evangelical (my husband is a pastor here in Utah County) but we just toured the Orem Temple last week, and Mark and Monica were also our tour guides! They were super sweet and taught us many of the same things you mentioned here. This was my first time inside a temple and it was indeed very beautiful, and very educational.
Thank you for coming to the temple open house. I am happy you had a beautiful experience.
So wonderful to hear!
Thank you for having the courage to come and see amd learn.
I’m so glad you came! It’s better to see for yourself than to just go off what anyone else says. Thank you for being kind to comment so graciously.
We are so glad you came! 🤍
David, you’re respectful, kind, and polite. You’re a true gentleman and I’m totally impressed 🌞
Yes, David's sincere curiousity is a virtue.
Bro you gotta read Alma 32. It’s all about what you’re talking about with seeds and growth. It will blow your mind!
Alma 32 is the scripture that best describes my the process I went through spiritually as I was turning to the Lord at 17 years old.
“28 Now, we will compare the word unto a seed. Now, if ye give place, that a seed may be planted in your heart, behold, if it be a true seed, or a good seed, if ye do not cast it out by your unbelief, that ye will resist the Spirit of the Lord, behold, it will begin to swell within your breasts; and when you feel these swelling motions, ye will begin to say within yourselves-It must needs be that this is a good seed, or that the word is good, for it beginneth to enlarge my soul; yea, it beginneth to enlighten my understanding, yea, it beginneth to be delicious to me.”
facts!!!
I am a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and you taught me with your insights. They were beautiful! Thank you so much for your thoughtfulness as you are doing these.
How do you feel when you anything involving the LDS church. Is it a comforting, loving feeling, like coming home? It’s the spirit that will convert you. You will feel it and know it’s different than anything else you have ever felt. You will know it for a certainty. God bless you!!!
I was a member of First Presbyterian Church until the age of 24 when I became a member of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. The gospel instruction available in a temple is just amazing!
One of those original Norwegian Immigrants to first settle Orem was my great great grandfather. They joined the church after hearing from the missionaries and reading the Book of Mormon and left everything to come to Utah to be with the saints. I think about this all the time, what would I be willing to sacrifice for my faith and testimony? thanks for this video and God bless!
This is my first time watching you. I’m LDS and totally flabbergasted by your perspective. Thank you for this gift you have shared with us.
It’s sooooo nice to see someone represent us accurately for once! People automatically listen to rumors about us before getting to know the real us. People did the same to Christ. It’s happening to his church. Satan will do all he can to tarnish anything christ has. Thank you!!!! I love the gospel of Jesus Christ. All are welcome.
What rumors?
I studied most all of the LDS theology and history over 10 years. I only share to others what is in the printed Joesph Smith History... this presentation stops all curious seekers from seeking any more about this organization called LDS or Mormon. Facts matter to people.
@@brettbossingham3466 Oh if you only knew.
It's happens to all churches
The “gospel”?
Galatians 1:8-12 NKJV
But even if we, or an angel from heaven, preach any other gospel to you than what we have preached to you, let him be accursed. As we have said before, so now I say again, if anyone preaches any other gospel to you than what you have received, let him be accursed.
The light is growing brighter in your countenance, and there's so much to love where there's truth and light.
Excellent observation! I see the same in him.
Agreed! ❤
I am a convert to the LDS Church of almost 50 years. It's been a great journey. I appreciative your fair and open minded approach as you explore the LDS Church and share your thoughts. I wish all of our other Christian brothers from other faiths were as Christian you are and ...as I hope to be.
I think you're a celebrity among the Latter Day Saint community. We love you and wish you the best. Thank you for your insights.
David I loved you mentioned the bridal room. I live in Los Angeles and my daugther was living in Utah when she was plannig to get married in the Salt Lake City temple. And because I couldn't miss many days in my new job, I missed all the wedding preparations. Everything was done without my help, opinion or ideas. i was stroggling with money and I was sad that I was not able to travel to help or participate in the small details. I felt out, not included at all. I was able to traveled one day before the ceremony. I was a convert and I have never been in a sealing ceremony before. The brides go to the temple in regular cloths and they change in the bridal room. I thought "oh no I will be out again" . To my surprise the temple assistant asked for the mother of the bride to help with the dressing. Only mother and daughter!!!! I was so happy, I enjoyed every minute with my only daughter in the bridal room. Maybe for someone this sound silly, but for me was a lot because I am one of many mothers that must work to help with the family economy. Unfortunatelly we missed a lot of important events at school or other activities, We appreciate the small things with our children.
@mariatrejo1248 - I'm glad you got to share that special time in the bride's room with your daughter. I too have an only daughter. She was sealed in the Manti Temple and it was just her and I in the bride's room. It was especially meaningful to me to be able to be with her in that special place because I had been inactive for many years and had worked hard to be able to go to the Temple with her. The bridal room was a very special bonding time to talk with her and assist with dressing. I loved not being rushed. Just as we were leaving, another mom and daughter came in. I hope they got the room all to themselves just as my daughter and I did.
@mariatrejo1248 & @micheleh3851
Thank you both for sharing this. It made me reflect upon my own experience in the temple when I was preparing to be sealed to my husband. I made the very difficult decision to not have my earthly mother present for the sealing due to a long history of abuse, but weeks before the ceremony, in a completely different temple, I had a beautiful experience as I was pondering wedding plans in the celestial room. I won't go into specifics but it was such a touching and unforgettable reminder that, "Truth is reason; truth eternal tells me I've a Mother there". Thank you both & God bless.
“Growth”… I just love that!
As I was listening to you share your insights, it became clear to me that has been my experience with the temple.
I have been attending the temple for 32 years. For the vast majority of that time I have attended not understanding the symbolism and covenants, but trusting the promises our dear prophet has given if we attend often. I’ve needed those blessings so I began this past year attending as often as my schedule would permit.
Often kneeling before I go, telling the Lord, “I choose you. No matter if I understand all the symbolism or things taking place. I want You to be my God. I want my life to reflect that He is the most important thing to me, and attending His holy house will show my heart.”
This past year, finally miracles are unfolding and His love signs are being poured into my life like I never dreamed.
Growth… yes, growth as we exercise faith in Christ and trust His Plan. It really is otherworldly. I’m seeing our Lord Jesus Christ in every covenant, every single aspect of temple worship.
…but not only that, I’m discovering His beautiful, perfect, merciful heart. ❤️☀️
…now I run to the temple! And when I leave, I’m walking 3 feet off the ground, feeling strengthened and cherished by my God.
So, you didn't get to go to the temple before the April, 1990 changes to the ceremony?
Get used to special treatment, David. You ARE special. 😊❤ We all are.
That’s really cool that the word that came to you describing your temple visit was “growth“. That’s actually a main theme of the Orem Temple. I don’t know if you’ve noticed, but I heard that throughout the lower levels, there are many depictions of flower buds (Namely cherry blossoms, I believe). As you walk through the upper levels, the higher you get the more the buds are depicted as blossoming. In the celestial room, they are fully blossomed. So the word you chose to describe your experience fits perfectly!
After watching the whole video I see that you addressed this :)
As to wearing a wedding dress, a bride often does wear a simple white temple dress. I did. Anything worn in the Temple will be appropriate, somewhat simple. For many, the brides room is a beautiful place for a the bride to prepare. Spiritually and physically.
Growth = Eternal Progression.
Thank you for using the name of the church in such a respectful way. You are a remarkable man.
Wish I could have met you while you were out here. Appreciate your spirit.
I'm never ready for your videos to end! Thank you so much, and best of luck on wherever your journey leads you!
If we could all speak respectfully of each other this would truly be a better world. You do an amazing job, thank you.
If you haven't yet seen, on the church's UA-cam channel is a video tour of the temple in Rome led by two members of the Quorum of England the Twelve Apostles. It nay provide additional insights.
I have to say, your faith journey is truly exciting!!! I've been enjoying all of your various videos! What an amazing story you have to tell! Your channel has truly brought me closer to Christ. Thank you!
You are so awesome! Thanks for your insight! My wife and I are exited to see the Orem temple for the first time with some of your comments in mind:) the savior is aware of you and your journey so much and is guiding you back home. Keep up the good work and continue to have faith that you will find more light and growth!!
David, you have a gift of recognizing the fruits of the Holy Spirit. Thank you for sharing that gift. I admire your heartfelt and humble search for learning and truth which is apparent in each of your videos. I love learning from your insights. I have followed my own path of discovery which has led me to receive a firm spiritual witness that The Book of Mormon is, in fact, the word of God and another testament of Jesus Christ (similar to the New Testament). Heavenly Father and Jesus Christ did appear to Joseph Smith and called him to restore Christ's church, in its fulness, upon the Earth. With it, God's priesthood has also been restored and living prophets continue to teach and guide His children today. The covenants and ordinances you spoke of in this video are a key component of those teachings. As you come to an understanding of those ordinances and covenants, your understanding of God's immense grace and love for all of His children will grow. It is a beautiful plan of salvation and happiness prepared by Heavenly Father and fulfilled by and through the atonement of Jesus Christ to bless and save ALL of His children. I know God is guiding you by His Spirit through this journey and that your willingness to share with sincerity will bless many people.
Loved this video, David. I am constantly amazed at your ability to draw symbolism and nuance to your experiences and explain them, like with the growth of the cherry trees, or family trees, or application of knowledge, or the Father's house having many rooms. You are an excellent teacher. I look forward to your video of your visit to the St. George Temple too.
It is such a breath of fresh air for someone to give an honest unbiased opinion. Your conference attendance video caught my attention a while back. Most of what I have seen in media growing up towards my beliefs has had a similar feel to those holding signs and shouting outside the conference center.
I appreciate your perspective and honest reviews.
It’s great to hear your journey and analysis.
David, You are a deep thinker. You have given this lifelong member some real insights. Keep digging Friend!
Gods church will always have a temple. It’s like the embassy of God away from the world. I first heard that from David Alexander. I agree! An embassy of God in this earth to help us be on the covenant path in the unity of faith.
I have had the humble blessing of attending the temple to worship Our Savior Jesus Christ for many years. I have found the temple to bring the most cherished blessings into my life. I pray that your journey of faith continues and that the Lord continues to bless you with further light and knowledge. I love the spirit and tone that you bring to these messages. You have a special spirit about you. Thank you for sharing.
Your genuine curiosity about and appreciation of our faith is wonderful. Quite refreshing compared to Hello Saints, where his exploration is more cerebral than spiritual.
I agree. I prefer this channel so much more. I enjoy David's visits to all sorts of churches. I appreciate his candor and his kindness.
I was thinking the same thing. I am a convert and know what it is like to be a skeptic, but I not taking that approach and just seeing the beauty with true curiosity as he does
I agree. Pastor J is nice but he is a fake imho. I now believe he is hoping and trying to lead away anyone who will come. If you listen closely to his verbage you will catch his errors. Imho.
“You shall know them by their fruits” 🍒 🌞
Joseph's fruits really got around too, God demanded it or he would be destroyed. D&C 132.
@@outlawedmedia4336 we look at the same things and come to different conclusions. If you’d like to chat, let me know, and I’ll give you my number 🌞
@@outlawedmedia4336 He only had kids with his wife Emma, other than that you are spreading rumors that have long been debunked.
@@outlawedmedia4336Comments like this are old and over used, and saying them brings nothing. Try doing some good, and choose a joyful spirit.
Hey David, thank you so much for your videos. I appreciate them very much. I almost saw all of them and it was so very impressive to me, how open and fair you are to all of the churches, always searching for the good (and there are a lot of good in all of them). Today, I felt prompted to comment your video.
Like you, I came from a protestant background but had questions that could not be answered. It's now more then 40 years ago, I met the missionaries of the church of Jesus Christ of LDS and my questions got answered one after another. When I see your eyes, telling about the temple, I can see this glimpse of light in your eyes and I remember my first time when I learned more and more about the church. It seemed like an endless new dimension of light, joy, truth and knowledge opened up to me, and the puzzle pieces slowly came together. You are on the way to find something very special and unique. Go on searching and asking the Lord to lead you home. He knows you. He loves you. He has a plan for you. It's so much ahead for you. Amazing, to hear, that your great grandfather was a member of the church. Perhaps he ist reaching out to you?
I'm soaking all his videos up! While I'm hearing him talk-- in my mind's eye I see him being married/sealed for time and all eternity to a beautiful woman, serving as such a righteous priesthood holder, and raising a family in the Gospel. I forget he's not of our religion. Definitely has light and love. I wish he'd check out a mid-singles ward for an upcoming video.
Planting seeds is not only an act of faith, but the gathering and eating of the fruits are synonymous of gathering knowledge, strength and becoming tied to the land by putting down roots and creating a family. On the other hand we become more tied to God through the plan of happiness which comes from nurturing feeding and loving our families. 😇♥️
You are an inspired and truly earnest follower of Christ. Thank you for sharing your discoveries and the grand vistas you desire to explore and learn from.
I believe you have a gift to see symbolism in many things. Been enjoying your videos and thoughts. Press onward brother David! 🙏
So nice to hear your testimony and to listen how the Holy Spirit is guiding and teaching you as you learn more about the House of the Lord. As you learn and have shared we too have been edified and have grown
I think “growth” was a great insight. The temple ceremonies symbolize our journey and “growth” from our pre-mortal life through our life on earth, and our eventual return to God’s presence through the atonement of Jesus Christ.
The tree of life can symbolize immortality, eternal life, the love of God, the atonement of Jesus Christ, and the presence of God.
The symbolic gestures and elements of the temple ceremonies are not to be taken literally, they are symbolic and are meant for us to ponder what is the underlying meaning of the symbolism, what we can learn from it, and to point our thoughts and hearts to Jesus Christ and His atonement for us.
I live in Orem. I am LDS. There is so much symbolism in the Orem Temple. I wish I could tell you all about it. It is such a beautiful place.
As a LDS I love your videos, I learn from all of them, it feels good to know we can have Christian friends not of our denomination in this space that is usually toxic towards us. Great video brother, God speed!
Loved it!! Excited for the St George temple :)
Just a thought from one David to another... After your experience with the Church, you will quite possibly never be the same person again!😊
You can count the seeds in an apple, but you can’t count the apples in a seed.
David, our family loves your videos and your humble and seeking spirit. I joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints in college and access to the temple has been a beautiful way to incorporate the Savior into my life. Thanks for these wonderful videos!
Greetings from Colombia- Excelent video.
I grew up in Northern California, and the Oakland Temple sits on the hillside and it is lit up at night it’s breathtaking. I’ve heard it said that on the foggy nights, the temple glow can be seen by pilots flying overhead.
If you ever get to see it at night, it’s glorious!
Years ago, the city tried to force the church to turn off the lights because it was *too* bright... or they wanted to reduce light pollution... or something like that. The FAA actually intervened and said that the pilots had been actively using the Oakland temple as a marker on their flights! How cool is that!
@@DannyAGray I love that!
Another way the temple is symbolic of the Savior...He is the light that we key on to make it safely home....
My husband served in the California Oakland Mission and heard that about the boats depending on the lights and requesting them to be turned back on. We actually went there on our Honeymoon. ❤
Interesting thoughts. We reach into the ground to plant seeds, then reach into the sky to obtain the fruit.
David, you are a breath of fresh air. Many others who try to explain our beliefs are not so kind, accurate, trustworthy and humble as you are.
My faith journey started with being a split of Catholic and Calvinists. I investigated seven different Christian churches and studied world religions. The totality of the confusion pushed me towards agnosticism. Eventually, I ran into a member of the church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints and that person encouraged me to investigate. When I heard about living prophets, the Book of Mormon as another witness of Jesus Christ, Christ, visiting America, etc. the Spirit witness to me in such a powerful way that I could not deny the Church's restored doctrines being correct. I have had many many witnesses since then as well
Many teachings of the Church make absolute sense. For example, all of the Christian churches that I'm aware of believe that life begins at physical birth. Since God is all powerful, all knowing, all wise, and if life really began at birth, then why didn't God create us all to be like Jesus? The only logical answer is a found in Ecclesiastes 12:7 where God says that when we die our body RETURNS to the earth and our spirit RETURNS to God. To RETURN to god, we had to live there once before. Jeremiah 1:5 talks about Jeremiah being foreordained, set apart and sanctified by God to be a prophet unto the nations. That also is only possible if Jeremiah was once before in the presence of God to have that ordination actually occur. There are other scriptures that likewise support pre-Earth life doctrine.
There are other key doctrinal pieces that I could share, but this is enough for now.
I have a great neighbors. I wish you could move in next door. You would be a such delight to have in our community. God bless you. ❤️
The celestial room represents heaven and entering the presence of God. :)
So glad you’ve been able to experience the temples. Your knowledge has grown so much from your first ward visit. Your head is trying to reconcile everything you’re learning with what the Spirit is telling you, too. I think you’re doing a phenomenal job at being open and not rejecting things, just because they’re not what you had traditionally been taught.
This is so very uplifting. Thank you!
I smiled when you said "growth", that really describes it well.
Your post was made on the same day as the St. George Temple being re-dedicated. That is a very special and sacred meeting where a dedicatory prayer is given. Then the Temple can be open for the ceremonies for ordinances and covenants. Looking forward to the video you have for that special Pioneer-era temple. I love your thought process and learning more about your own ancestry and faith. I love your term "growth" and then relating it with "fruits" and "trees" and "orchards". It all conveys so much of the purpose of the House of the Lord, and the progress we each make through our mortal journey. I think you might find as you ponder that there is quite a bit of scriptural foundation for these terms that help you had to describe your experiences so far (ie, The fruits of the spirit; Elijah the prophet turning the heart of the fathers to the children, and the heart of the children to their fathers; know them by their fruits; the Lord's vineyard; and so on). I love your updates and how respectful you are. Not only in your posts but also in your desire to learn more and give the respect of time and attention to what you will share.
I love your videos!
Great video, thanks for respecting our faith
David, I love both your keen powers of observation as well as your ability to think metaphorically to make connections with what you are learning. Alma 32 of the Book of Mormon definitely came to mind when you were referring to seeds and growth.
You are so intuitive when you said it is about growth. The Gospel of Jesus Christ is all about growth and progression. We are all continuing to learn..
Yes, it is basically summed up in the King Follett discourse.
Are you still in Utah county ?? I live here and would love to meet you! Your story is so inspiring:) I shared it with my mother over the summer and felt the spirit so strongly listening to you describe how you feel discovering the lds church. It would be great if you came to church in Springville sometime
Appreciate the invite! Not in Utah County, but will visit again soon.
Echo that invitation! My husband, now 37, joined the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints when he was 23. We'd love to swap stories, thoughts, food, etc!
Interesting that your grandfather joined the church just before he passed and now you're Interested and intrigued about the restored gospel. He might be inspiring you from the other side. I wish you well in your further research. I found this version of the gospel when I was a catholic teenager and haven't regretted it since and I'm 67 now. Answers all my questions on where we came from, why we're here, what's next and importantly to me, what's the rest of the universe for? We can't be the only planet with Heavenly Father's creations on it. What a waste of space and resources that would be. Thanks for your perspective and research. I'm looking forward to your future videos.
What!? You where in Orem!!! Would love to meet you bro
The inside of the temple feels like liquid peace.
I live in Orem - thanks for your visit! I'm excited for the Temple dedication. My daughter turns twelve the day before the dedication. Twelve is the age when Latter-day Saints get to go to the Temple for the first time and she is so excited! Thanks for your wonderful and curious attitude. Feel free to contact me if you every need someone to discuss more academic subjects! I think what you're doing is great.
This video was beautiful. As a member of our faith I've always felt immensely appreciative of knowing the Lord has carved out such sacred places to draw closer to Him and bring our entire heavenly family in unity one with each other and our perfect King😊 Thank you for sharing!
Love your thoughts!! You might really enjoy reading Alma chapter 32 in the Book of Mormon comparing the word of God to a seed that needs to be planted, nourished, and grow within us- becoming a tree from which the fruit of Eternal Life is picked. My mind was drawn to this chapter when I was listening to you.
God Bless!
That's exactly what came to my mind too!
@@Undercoverbookssamesies
Me, too!
I thought the same thing!
How beautiful it is, David, to watch the transformation of your life as you study the things learned during your 52x52 visits, especially as you see and feel and understand some of the truths Latter-day Saints stand for. Loved you "fruit-basket" analogy from the ushers in the Orem Temple! The "full basket" of fruit from the fullness of the Gospel of Jesus Christ is a wonder!
I really appreciate your response to the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. You really demonstrate real curiosity, honesty and humility, unlike others who cannot make a compliment without following it up with a dozen criticisms. I look forward to more videos from you whether it be about the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints or any other Christian Church. May God continue to bless you.
Thank you, I love your honesty and learned new things, appreciate all your efforts
Love your humble opinion about the most holy place on earth.
The Orem temple is my favorite temple ever! It’s so gorgeous. Love the symbolism and the gorgeous pinks and greens!
Dear David, the LDS church should use this video, or at least parts of the video, in explaining temples to non-lds visitors! Love how open and respectful you are
Awesome video. The covenants we make in the temple: A covenant of obedience to keep the commandments, A Covenant of Sacrifice - Sacrificing our time and talents to lifting others, Covenant of the Gospel, this is a commitment to live the gospel of forgiveness, charity, and service. A covenant of chastity, to keep our minds and bodies clean from images and actions while staying faithful to our spouse, and a covenant of consecration, this is a covenant to dedicate our time and talents to building up Jesus Christ's Kingdom here on earth. Making and keeping these covenants binds us closer to The Savior, gives us peace, comfort, and power to have the spirit and go out into the world to do good. There are so many blessings in store for anyone who is willing and wanting to make and keep covenants with Our Father in Heaven and Jesus Christ. The Lords Temple represents a place to GROW, just as you have so eloquently described. Great video!
I love your enthusiasm for the temple, it is so refreshing to hear a voice of faith and curiosity.
I love your learning pyramid, I couldn't agree more. There is wisdom in sending 18 and 19 year old kids out into the world to teach and proclaim the Gospel of Jesus Christ. My mission changed my life, I learned so much. God bless
Thank you so much for your kind and respectful commentary about the Orem Temple. Your knowledge about all religions has grown so much since you began this journey. Your understanding of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is amazing. Thank you. Have a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year.
I always really appreciate your perspectives. Thoughtful, peaceful, and so respectful. Thank you!
David, you are absolutely right about the Church incorporating a “unique personalized theme based off the town or area.” The Laie, Hawaii temple is constructed out of the local coral. Like other LDS temples, absolutely stunning!
I also had the opportunity to be in Utah and attend the open house of the Orem Temple. The stain glass windows in the baptistry with the ducks and cattails was stunning. Then to see the progression of growth with the cherry trees is amazing. When I was growing up un Utah Country, Orem had many cherry orchards. Growth is a good word in describing not only the church, but how our own life can be.
How nice to have a tour guide to help you better understand the temple. Yes, Jesus Christ is the PEARL....yet sometimes we focus on the box.
Thank you for your thoughtful, beautiful, deep contents on your visit. I think you caught a great theme with the word growth. Connection is another I associate with the temple. And then covenant. I think they all mesh together. Temples are such special places to us. Thank you for treating them so reverently.
As a former Catholic, I loved my first, temple trip. Washington, DC Temple is gorgeous. As a child, I thought the cafeteria was very neat. ❤️ My father felt a "tingly feeling" in the Houston, Texas Temple Open House 🏡. My father is not LDS and is not a religious person, generally.
Hi David, Thank you so much for sharing this beautiful video! Recently I saw on UA-cam another video of a lady attending with some of her children the dedication of the St. George Temple. She called her eight minutes video The Veil was Gone and Angels were in Abundance.
God Bless You!
What an awesome video, can't wait to see St. George!
When I read the title of the video, I immediately thought... What bad thing is he going to say about the Church or our religious beliefs? The internet is full of lies and misunderstandings of the Church and especially of the pure gospel of Jesus Christ. I have been a member of the Church since 2007 and I can say: I have just grown spiritually in every way. I know I have a lot more to ponder and research about all of these things. I'm Brazilian and I'm the first convert in my family, I thought that only the living members were my family. When I entered and experienced the sacred ceremonies of the temple, I realized that my understanding of the gospel of Jesus Christ was very limited in my ignorance. Well, in any case, continue with your research, you really managed to express very well how we feel about God and his house.
What a cool video, dude. I'm happy to see you set your introverted side aside this go around and took on the full experience. I think most of us may have thought on your visit to Bentonville, that they just rushed you through because tours were closing up and so you had to self-guide yourself, which seemed out of character for something like that, so it's good you got the full experience.
Speaking of your Bentonville tour, I keep remembering the Cardinals you talked about during that visit. Never forget the Cardinals.
It's interesting you focused so much on TREES in this video. So, far as I know, it's not Church doctrine anywhere, but there's a rising belief now that the tree is very significant and symbolic of something that was lost millennia ago during the time of King Josiah in the Old Testament where people had taken the idea of GODS to an apostate level and we're creating God's, just as they did after Moses ascending the Mount to receive the Ten Commandments. King Josiah, who was a political figure and not a prophet, was trying to return the people's focus to the Commandment that there's only one God that you should worship. The issue is, there became such a fanaticism with monotheism that somehow that knowledge faded. In the Hebrew Bible, Elohim immediately mentioned, which means "Head of the Gods." Elohim also speaks to another God, Jehovah, and says "Let us make man in OUR own image" but that only explains man for MALES, what of FEMALES? Who is God talking to if there's only one? Well, there was a female there, a Heavenly Mother with Elohim, by her man, assisting in his decisions of the process, and helping with those decisions. Jehovah says upon completion of everything "It is good" with the exception of one, a law of heaven "It is not good for man to be alone. I will make for him a helpmeet" and then it was good. He created women after the likeness of the Gods (female). So, as we look at the tree more and more, it's considered...... taboo or unclean to speak of and creates an uncomfortable conversation for members but, trees provide fruit that sustain life. There is a rising belief that the tree is very symbolic of our Heavenly Mother, and that women give life sustaining nourishment that helped us grow from infancy and kept us alive. So too does the tree. It's believed our Heavenly Father used the tree of life to symbolize the other Godly figure in our lives we don't really ever talk about, simply because we flat out have and continue to reject it and why would go want what he holds so dear to him disrespected like that. Is it not any surprise how woman are held in such respect and high regard in many cultures in the world? Also, as Jesus said "If ye have seen the Father, ye have seen me", Jesus was born in the similitude of his Father. Now, nobody is implying Godliness here, but it's believed Mary was in the similitude of her Mother, that she carried the image and likeness of our Heavenly Mother.
Just interesting your biggest take away was the importance and how much the tree stood out to you.
Also, the relationship after partaking of the fruit, wasn't severed, oh no, sir, it flourished. Man could now know good from evil, it was all part of the plan. It wasn't really a sin of commission, but of omission. We had to be separated from God in order for this test to be successful, we had to learn on our own to develop faith, and learn and choose right from wrong and learn to depend on God. "Adam fell that men might be, and men are that they might have joy." -2 Nephi 2:25. Adam and Eve weren't multiplying and replenishing the earth in the Garden of Eden, they couldnt. Eve recognized and knew that they couldn't do that until they ate the fruit that allowed them to fulfill God's plan, they were ignorant, they didn't know happiness or sadness, they had to know sadness to understand happiness.
Finally, you had a lot of impressions and you went through the temple, even undedicated, it's just a building, but you got a taste of what it's purpose is, revelation. You get that while you're there and then when you leave you further ponder and study that out. Oddly enough, that's how God seems to communicate best is through symbolism, because one thing can teach an infinite number of lessons depending on where we're at in life or the questions we have, that bit of symbolism can speak to us in different ways and as we learn more about that, we learn new lessons as well. It's pretty wild. As you read through the Book of Exodus, you read how Moses is instructed to build the Tabernacle and even the Tabernacle vestment for him and for Aaron and the sons of Aaron, the priests, all the symbolism in the manner and materials that are used to construct it. In the usual protestant meeting house, there's the cross, that's usually about it. A Catholic Cathedral has a lot of images and symbolism in some, but the Tabernacle and this the temple built first by Solomon had an abundance of symbolism because that's how God works, in everything he's ever done, even our Pre-Existence is filled with symbolism. The Book of Mormon is filled with symbolism in ways Joseph Smith could have never come up with, especially in the 90 days he translated it that we'd still be learning things today. Those cardinals you saw in Bentonville, symbolism, to you they were symbolic communicating to you in a way only you would understand, personal, to you.
With regards to Exodus, the Tabernacle was bronze on the outside and as you got closer to God, if was gold. The Idaho Falls, Idaho temple is shaped like a cake kind of build. The temple wraps around the Celestial Room and when you are in the Celestial Room, you're right under the spire that points to the heavens symbolizing your individual prayers in God's presence asscending directly upward to him directly.
Happy to see it was a better experience this time, but, we learn more as we're ready to receive more and you were ready to receive more.
My ancestor Jesse Wentworth Crosby lived in St George. Look for his cannon on the St George temple grounds.
So glad you could make it to the temple open house. I sent a VIP inzvite earlier but at the time your schedule was too busy. So glad you figured out how to make it happen. Would love to hear your perspective on meeting with the young men or women missionaries. I think people would be interested to know what that is about since they seen them everywhere! Thanks again for the great videos.
Seriously, You need to come for the Salt Lake City Temple open house. Don't know when that will be yet. I hope you can come.
Thank you for your thoughtful insights and videos. You should read Alma 32. It goes along with your theme of growth.
Thank you for sharing your insights into things we may take a little for granted. I love love love the temple and appreciate your analysis too and giving us a fair shake. A few things that might not have been obvious from the tour is that as you ascend through the levels, light increases as well as a physical ascension.
You are awesome. Lucky those that are your friends. Thank you for your kindness! You are one of those whom God is happy with thanks for your respect toward the church of Jesus Christ!
You'll notice in the sealing room of each temple there are large mirrors positioned across the room and directly opposite from each other. In some of the smaller temples they are also in the celestial room. If we look into the mirrors we can see in front and beyond this for eternity because the reflections bounce off each other. These mirrors represent the vast expanse of eternity and are there to remind us that the ordinances performed in that room do not end in death but continue throughout all eternity.
You are so sincere and I just get so interested as you share your honest and unvarnished thoughts and feelings. It's beyond refreshing. I hope one day you spot a cardinal designed into a temple that you are visiting ... I think you already sense that your great grandfather is watching over you and guiding your journey. Thank you for being truly open minded, insightful, and so well spoken that we can all be blessed by your courageous vulnerability. 🙏✌️❤️
Very nice, David, as always. Thank you.
Also Read in the Book of Mormon...2 Nephi 15, Jacob 5, and Alma 32....about growth, vineyards, faith, and scattered/gathered Israel.
You articulate many of the sensations I feel when entering a temple. Or even when looking at a temple-- especially a pioneer temple with which I have ancestral connections!
I'm enjoying following your journey. You're so humble and sincere, keep praying and God will guide you home. Hint: you may not find it where you expect.
Congrats on your baptism! The Orem temple is my temple. In December I got to volunteer and welcome people into the Orem Temple. It is a beautiful temple. Since you're a member now... if you make it back to Utah I would highly recommend going to the Provo City Center Temple and doing baptisms. It's one of my personal favorites, and it has a really cool history behind it. I've been watching a lot of your videos today and they have been faith inspiring for me.
Thank you for your insightful comments. I’ve seen in other episodes that you bring out new ideas from what you say that I learn from. In this one two of your analogies really felt correct to me. One was your emphasis on growth. In Latter-Day Saint teachings, we came to this life to grow and progress. That is very central to the plan of salvation. The other was your mention of the learning pyramid. Growing up in this church, we are given opportunities to study and teach the gospel from an early age. A big part of that is to help us learn and internalize these principles. It was so good to see you capture that in the fantastic way that you did. Thank you.
I also love the way you have handled other churches unique strengths and individualities. Again, thank you, and I hope this quest continues to be a blessing in your life.
I grew up in orem, next to a cherry or hard, and our family has a Norwegian heritage. I'm excited to visit the temple there. Thanks for your thoughts David. Love your channel!