Toyota wanted HOW MUCH $$ for this simple part... Centre Diff Lock Actuator DIY repair
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- Опубліковано 13 вер 2024
- Today we are attempting to repair my 1991 Toyota Landcruiser! How hard can it be? How expensive will it be? Lets find out...
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Everyone is now running off to see if their breather is connected now
Do it!!! 🤣
Hahaha. I just did it. 🤣
Same here.
Don't know much about them, but going to have a look to see if it's possible to add a long pneumatic line to it and a breather. Like you do for your diff breathers.
Though you do get diff breather kits that are for your diffs (2) as well as transfer case and gearbox.
Deadset done my clutch today and it was off😂
@@AussieArvos thing wrong with the 80,, is the 90 kw.. there a dinosaur engine. reliable, but gutless. watch vids on bmw 3.0 tdi. 2012.ish. ditch the butterflies, single turbo, 300 hp..bmw wreck for 3k. cheap engine.auctions. grays, manhiem..
This is why I like manual shifter and manual hubs in my truck
Yeah. What is Toyota thinking. How dare the part break after ONLY 30 years? 🤔
@@HammerRocks its about reliability and fixability, one time is all it takes
@@ryantunstall9572 Yeah. It's so unreliable. It broke down after 30 years of off-road use.
@@HammerRocks
But that one time was when he was stuck in a dangerous situation in the side of a cliff.
That's the problem with electronics.
@@Robert-cu9bm I get what you mean, but a part(s) failing once in 30 years of hard off-road use is not unreliable. Most likely it will still be working if water didn't get in there. I'm sure if the disconnected breather tube was spotted by Pat prior to his trip, this would have been avoided. Speaking from experience, not even military designed parts last this long without breaking (ie. Unimog etc). But you can have the best vehicle prepared ever, and things could still break when used off-road.
The feeling of self satisfaction and pure joy of getting a job like that done, long outlasts the pain.
Well done fellas.
Thanks mate! Was such a good feeling when that centre diff lock light came on!! 😍👌
@@AussieArvos and I bet you’ll smile each and every time it comes on in the future.👍
Thinking about this a few hours after watching this video. what happen is that when you cleaned the actuator, that smoke you saw was actually a short circuit that cooked the main relay for the diff lock, it is probably why you had so much of a problem finding out why nothing was working after you fixed the actuator.
Good thing his fuses (which is what I was screaming through this entire video for him to check) blew first right... oh wait....
never, ignore smoke..
Agreed. First though was ‘ef… what did that just cook’. Might be worth throwing a fuse on it….
Someone give this man a medal!
Good to see you actually finding the problem and showing us, own an 80 series me self so if it ever happens I know what to do.
That's it mate ! Thank you!!
Nice work boys well thought through. It’s great to see young blokes having a crack and not giving up til it’s sorted,and gaining some valuable skills along the way👍
Honestly one of the best 4WDing videos I’ve seen. So great to see the troubleshooting process, slowly eliminating the things it could be until you found the problem(s). Truly keeping to the direction of realistic budget builds, and so awesome to see you fixing a catastrophic failure with a bit of elbow grease and the repair manual and not that much money. Keep it up!
I had the same problem with my 80 series, im a mechanic, with a bit more knowledge I was able to diagnose that it was the relay and got a wreckers one for $10 !
Massive props to you guys for your method of diagnosing, you definitely got a tricky one ! Both components failing! Well done boys
What a great watch. Can't stop smiling after seeing you get the new relay in at the end. Good on you for pulling everything apart and trying to repair it first, best way to learn.
Thanks lemons! So glad you enjoyed it mate! It was a mission but got there in the end!!
Great to see someone repairing rather than throwing away. I've done a couple of alternators over the years, usually $10 instead of $300. Fairly straightforward repair.
What a great episode! Love the persistence to find the problem and fix the problem in true “have a go” style. 👏
Thanks guys! Really appreciate it! :)
Man your tenacity in finding the root cause is admirable! Well done
Well done fellas 👏 Great work diagnosing the issue, and being resourceful in getting alternative fixes. So far no issues with my LC80's CDL (touch wood) 🤞
Thanks Fatman!! Good to hear! Cheers :)
Wow what a mission to fix it. Good on you for sticking with it!
great info guys, so glad sometimes that I went down the poverty pac and just added the GXL features I wanted...lol...
Great Video that showed the journey that sometimes has to undertaken to resolve a problem. As an Automotive Service Centre Business owner, that journey is something we do every day but with one huge difference. We would have been sledged and humiliated on social media review sites for being incompetent and rip-off artists for not achieving a good outcome after the first repair or component replacement was performed.
agree mate!, Can you imagine if you purchased the genuine part for a customer ($2024) and some labour charging them $2700-2800 and it wasnt even fixed. They would be furious. Then another $500 plus labour for the relay. You would be at fair trading in no time!
Building up a heavily abused and neglected 80 just now and the center diff lock is one of the many probs that require attention. Thanks for this vid, you have saved me a fair bit of head scratching cause I now have an idea where to start looking when I get to this particular repair. Great vid mate, keep up the good work. Benno
Just had a similar failure. No breather, deep water, cooked armature.
I found that in the natural unlocked position the actuator is actually about 2 teeth rotation off of hard unlock or 5 turns of the armature (set by the contacts and relay) The little contacts in the actuator tell the relay exactly where the locking mechanism is. By setting it up at hard in the off position when it is later controlled by the relay it may not actually fully dis-engage the transfer. (only by 2 teeth) It could be that it is enough to click it all in/out but that is not the way is was originally setup. The factory manual is terrible at spelling it out simply.
I had to to do my factory diff locks a while back. (very similar motor actuator) and the manual in this diff lock section has a much better explanation of setting up the actuator.
Thanks for taking to the time to make this video.
Well done boys for solving the problem
Wel done. Great to see you and your mate working through the problem.
Loved you highlighting the Manual so we knew what you were speaking about!
Thanks Sam! Really glad you noticed! I appreciate it! glad it helped!!
Ditto. I appreciate the workshop manual illustrations.
I'm giving this video a like for your resilence and determination in fixing your centre diff lock problem, I was saying to myself early on in the video you need some 3rd world expert mechanic!! Old cars can be very frustrating.
Thanks Luke! Means alot! And yes! Ahha !
great outcome. alot of times the actuator can get hung up from lack of use as well. a good practise is to engage / disengage when stopped at lights or on a gravel road to keep things moving. Mine was not working for a while however managed to free it up on a gravel road by driving slowly turning the wheel lock to lock. Once it freed up i engaged/disengaged numerous times and its been fine ever since.
Brilliant video mate, you are the best 4wd on UA-cam. love how you look at doing this on a budget and being truthful. Stay true to your roots.
Thanks John , thanks means alot mate, thank you :)
this is the main reason i love the patrols, so much less to go wrong than the motors and drivelines in the 80s. no timing belt, no electric components in the 4wd system
regardless, solid effort figuring it out mate. i would’ve been pulling hair out 😂
The pov pack 80s have a normal transfer case with hubs
And so does the 105 series.
I had the same issue! So I also pulled my actuator apart! And fixed the problem! I always find an answer!
Great video! Very inspirational part about the throwaway mentality of the 21st century.
Hey young fella nice to see your interested in repairing and not throwing away. Excellent way to go... just so you know, 'rewinded' is not a word. Try rewound. Keep up the excellent work boys. Cheers
That was epic, well done for seeing it through.
We are having a very similar experience right now... 22r Hilux and a small diaphragm in the distributor has failed.... No aftermarket replacement and Toyota quoted $2160 for a distributor from Japan.
A serious bit of advice, the gasket goo is not going to seal it properly, use some silicone before you go bush again. Toyota put it on there for a good reason in the factory.
great video buddy! So glad you were able to get back up and running!
This video gave me anxiety, reminded me of all the times I couldn't fix something and was running out of ideas/money. Well done for persevering and getting it fixed.
I love watching your travel/4wding videos but love these workshop videos even more as I also own an 80 series and learning more about them is so good!
Well done.. you are gaining the groundwork to qualify towards Land Rover ownership..
You did well fixing that yourselves guy's well done.
just love you guys now i know what I would do if such an issue came up in my 80 series lc
I actually have this problem at the moment and this is the most in-depth video i could find on how to fix it.
Awesome work man
What a wild ride! So glad that you found a solution to your problem
Herb just bought a bigger house. Lol.
We need more Herbs in the world. Great channel fellas.
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Good to see you go through the whole system step by step and resolve your issue.
I priced a new one from Japan for $700 a while back before i started overhauling my driveline and progressively replacing the worn components.
Well done Pat! Good on you for persevering !! The only way is through!
I was yelling at the screen at the start of the video to check the electricals firsts.... but you got there in the end!
I will now check that all the tubes on my breathers are still connected. 😃 Well done in being able to sort it out cheaper. 👍👌
Good job on repairing it, awesome video of the ups and downs, keep up the good work!
Nice work guys 👍
Well, you definitely learnt something. Will be more valuable than you realise. Well done for the problem solving process and sharing your knowledge :)
Great vid. Awesome work. Diagnosis is by far the hardest part. Especially with driveline stuff. It sucks but when you finally solve it. Damn it feels good
Well done mate...I'm not 80 owner...but I understand what you did and it's a great achievement...it's definitely helpful for a lot of people...you people are awesome
Total Respect .... I Drive a GU and i work on it by my self... I know the frustration untill you pin down the exact problem ..
But at the end, a massive knowledge is gained with a massive saving in the pocket.
Awesome work guys!
Good to see you guys back. Keep up the good work. 👍
Thanks Brian! Means alot!
It is that kind of persistence that makes the unachievable - magically achievable.
I thoroughly enjoyed watching this episode going through process of finding the fault. Usually when a motor shorts out it takes other components with it. You have learnt a lot and you gave it a go. Proud of you 👍
Thanks Chris! i really appreciate you saying that mate, it was such a good feeling getting it going again! and great that i learnt alot along the way! and that's whats its all about! thank you! :)
What a journey to get this fixed! Kudos for figuring it out and persisting through!
My 105 series CDL actuator armature was cooked as well, I purchased a unit direct from Japan, it cost me $650 aud and took about 4 weeks to arrive. It fixed my problem instantly, I could have used this video about 2 months ago 😂
OMG Patrick! You have found a God! I had same issue with my heater blower motor and new one costs over $300. It was over heated because water had gotten inside like yours and eventually enamel of coil were burnt and shorted.
I watched same UA-cam videos about repairing electric motors! I actually fully dismantled and removed all the coil measured length and leant pattern how to wind step by step from youtube. I bought coil from Electric hobby shop but in the end I did not succeed! I installed cheap ebay blower motor which is noisy but works better. Ended up spending about $300,,,,,,, I wish I can send my truck to those country with super skilled people so they can repair them all! Luckily my diff lock is mechanically operated ;-) LR Defender 300TDI! Oh no I just heard he is over 70???? Can you go learn everything from him? No much time left!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????????
Good one you ! You have fixed! Brain power ! And Power of internet!
It happened with Holden Frontera. But It was electronics issue. It happened when I power washed under the car. I dislike car with computer!
Nice work. Such a good feeling when you work through a problem and turn the key and it’s fixed.
Well done mate, I didn't know any of this and it's good to know when out bush! I'll go check mine now aha
Well done, working through it and repairing it rather than replacing
Great job fellas
You stuck to it and nutted it out
Your diagnosis skills are second to none !
*Kudos, nice application of patience & diagnostic skills/procedures* 👍
Enjoyed watching. Thanks.
The relay is just a switch and would have been overloaded by the shorted coils, but just in case, check inside. Might be repairable, and if you're lucky, it might even have a fuse. Certainly needs one.
Wow that was a challenge. Well done!
Cool video mate. It kind of reminds me of the early days of MCM. Good content… Keep it up!
Good bit of troubleshooting boys.
Lots of character building and rewards when you don’t give up well done
I can feel your pain with Toyota my wife drives our 2009 SR 4WD hilux and the drivers seat only has rails and the seat only has back and forth movement.
I stopped at a second hand dealership and had a look what type of seats are in the SR5 hilux and they had a manual raise and lower handle and I thought it would make more sense to buy a new seat as we will be keeping the vehicle as it has no issues.
I went into parts and gave them all the vehicles information and he was talking and then he said that can’t be right I said what they don’t have that design because the new model has been out for 5 years.
He then said no it’s the amount and he said he would go ask his boss and he came back and he said you don’t want to buy one of these seats from us then he said because to buy one drivers seat is $5,000 dollars because every item of the seat is priced separately and taxed also shipped and once all the pieces are delivered then I have to get it assembled and I said can I get two drivers seats no I didn’t I ask what is the passenger and he said exactly the same and it’s got less parts and then he said the back seat was $7,000.
I then quietly asked him is he allowed to print all three seats out so I can hang it on my bar he said yep done it gave it to me and said I didn’t get it from him and I said I certainly didn’t and said thanks and left before anyone seen what happened or if he wasn’t aloud to do that.
If you ever want parts from Toyota then you say you have that part in another vehicle and you want to get it don’t say it’s an 80 series or hilux don’t even say it a Toyota because that’s when the put it in there computer and then they know you are needing that part and all their parts stores have the information because they have attached it to your vehicle.
great video loved it! glad you got to the root of the issue without just buying a replacement! imagine that was very satisfying.
You can buy part time kits for them I think marks adaptors do one
If u have a factory full time 80 and put the part time kit in u still need that actuator to switch from 2nd to 4wd I’m currently in the same process
Good job mate. I have to admire your tenacity and determination to get to the root of the problem/s. Great problem solving skills. 😊👍👍
you can always do a part time conversion, I believe Marlin Crawler sells the part
Great video mate! keep up the good work
this was a good video. Very much enjoyed it.
Well done gents. This was my favourite video in ages. Thanks for preserving and sharing the lessons, and not contributing to the throwaway society.
We’ll done boys!! Good problem solving.
Good on ya’s!!!! Always awesome to watch 🤠👍🏾🍺🍺
us nissan boys sitting here smiling!!! good job mate nutting that out.
Well done, bro!
Great Video ! Well Done !
Bloody roller-coaster!
Top job getting it back running, you blokes are doing good things. Keep it up
Well done on sorting that out. It's always tough work when you have a number of contributing factors. I had a similar issue once where the actuator got installed out of time and it took me a while to work out why.
i like to keep my cruiser simple. The first mod I did was take out the full-time case and swap in a part time case with free wheel hubs. The best thing to do to a cruiser. full time is good for driving on slippery roads (snow).
Superb effort on the diagnosis and eventual resolution.. well done.
i have an outrageous example of this, needed new o rings on my fuel injectors on my ls1 , $17.50 each one! bought a bag of 20 of the same o ring from nut and bolt for $6.80!
Huge effort! Fantastic job! Very informative! Cheers boys
Thank you!!
Interesting video. Had the issue with the cdl about 2 weeks ago. I know the feeling you had while it's not working. With mine the rear and front difflocks don't work if the cdl isn't engaged. 4H to 4L relay was clicking, which meant the switch was working. Bridging the cdl dash plug lit the light on my dash and rear and front locks worked. Removed the cdl and did the battery test. Think mine was a sticky motor. NOW my sensor to confirm rear difflock is engaged, has failed😭.
Well done for getting it sorted!!
Welcome to the cost of genuine parts mate! but seriously, good job on depicting everything and working it out, good detailed video
My Land Rover Discovery 1 us full time 4WD with CDL. the CDL is manually activated from the 4hH 4L lever, Backwards and forwards changes betweeh High and low, left right locks and unlocks the CDL.
Try a reputable shop to rewind the armature.
I live in South Africa, we do repairs here too.
Watched the rest, and kudos to you for thinking of repair rather than replacing the old part.
If you still have the Paj why not swop the transfer case to the 80? The gearbox in the Paj is a Toyota unit and the transfer case should bolt right up.
that relay probably got shorted from the actuator fault.
just saw the first cruiser vid & now this, you certainly have changed it.
Massive headache buddy, glad you finally sorted it out 👍👍
Good work young fella 👍
Im just going through this myself today. Tested my relay box as per the workshop manual and it seems ok. Tested the dash light by shorting the plug at the box and its good. Just tried to put voltage directly on the actuator motor and nothing. My breather hose was also off haha.
Well done, many including myself would have given up and gone to a mechanic. You saved a lot of $ and gained some useful knowledge
Thanks Paul! That really means a lot mate! appreciate it! :)
Regarding your comment about living in a throw away society, the thing is down to labor cost. Where labor is far cheaper then the part itself so you fix it. Where the labor is far mor expensive then the part, you buy a new one and never bother with it. That reminded me of a issue I had some years ago with a similar Toyota control box for the a 1994 Toyota 4Runner tailgate power window. A new box would have costed me X hundred dollars but it boiled down to replacing one 3 dollar relay in the printed circuit board...
Dramas, blood and sweat makes great content. Well done, didnt even needed to fast forward any part of this video lol.
Respect to you for all that effort.
Love your tenacity.
Marty from Perth
#44 on Trending! Awesome!
Well done for sticking to it and getting her done! The wealth of knowledge that comes from doing these things yourself will help you in life. Did you pull the old relay apart and repair it to try to recoup some money?
Well done, your very persistent and detailed. My 100 series has a similar problem I've changed the actuater but still no light. The cdl will engage when placed under load ie going over sand. So the mechanic is getting it next well. He feels it might be wiring so you hint on the relay may be helpful. Keep up the good work, and I love your philosophical suggestions
Good job wow , thank God mine old school not electronic , no full time 4wd till I get out and turn knobs