Can Panel Prep Remove LSP, Wax, Sealants, Polish Oils, Compound Residue??? Let Me Shoe You!!
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- Опубліковано 20 сер 2024
- In this video, I demonstrate how....and if panel prep can remove wax from automotive body panels. PANEL PREP easily removes all surface oils or filling agents, revealing the true state of a surface. Use of Panel Prep cleans surfaces completely, ensuring optimal bonding wax, sealants, or any coating.
WHAT RATIO IPA WIPE SHOULD YOU MAKE?
The tricky part is in the mix and ratio you prepare from the Isopropyl Alcohol and distilled water. We try and mix a 12.5% solution because it is the simplest ratio to make but you are safe to be in the 10-25% range. To achieve our 12.5% mix we use 8 ounces of 50% IPA and 16 ounces of distilled water. If you would mix these 1 to 1 you would be at a 25% IPA solution so we double the distilled water to 1 part Isopropyl Alcohol. We then transfer this to a BPA-Free 32 ounce spray bottle. A high quality spray bottle can last a long time and can be adjusted to allow you to mist or stream the mixture onto the vehicle’s surface or into a microfiber towel.
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What do you use to prep for protection?
I just apply more Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions after washing my good cars. I look at my daily driver and laugh.
I usually use isopropyl alcohol at about 10% to 20%, with some butyl cellosolve (aka ethylene glycol monobutyl ether or 2-butoxyethanol) added for solvency and mild surfactancy.
Great video as always, Brian. The Armour panel prep has become my favorite prep spray. I love the spearmint scent, and the lubrication offers a lot more confidence after spending hours with a polisher. Pretty much all of their products that I’ve tried have really impressed me.
Gyeon Prep
Sonax Profiline Panel Prep . Its a solvent based very Good Product.
I would love to see the DYI surface prep to see how it compares to all the namebrand. Thanks for all your hard work that you put in to give the consumer the best product out there.
The DIY Detail Panel Prep is designed as an intermediary step between polishing and ceramic coating applications. We highly recommend to use the prep product that’s specified by the coating you are using.
Also would be interesting if a body shop panel prep would do the trick? Like a Rustoleum Wax & Tar Remover, or Dupli-Color Prep Spray.
Those are solvents for the most part. They do strip fast
@@apexdetail85I was also curious as for the final wipe down, if you use a solvent based prep spray/solution, would that not enhance the bonding of something like a ceramic coat, or other sealant. Particularly if like you said it get into the pores of the clear and swells/expands the pores. Would protection not have a better or stronger bond after curing together with the clearcoat?
I can answer this question as i work in a body shop as a detailer and a paint prepper. We typically use two panel prep solutions. One thats water based to remove anything organic from the surface, like dirt and dust. Followed up by a solvent based panel prep for waxes and oils on the surface. The solvent based formula works extremely well for removing sealants and any spray on ceramics in one wipe.
I cant say how it would fair against an actual ceramic coating though.
If you do another round-up, Prep All as your solvent based candidate would be a nice addition.
Cant wait for a strip test on ceramic graphene spray on coats (ie resist,twax etc.)
Love these comparison analysis videos, Brian. I’ve been using 15% solution of 99% IPA and the rest distilled water.
Now I use Peleus from Phoenix EOD. Over sealants, I’ve found that after I wipe the panel prep off & carefully slide the back of my hand over it, there’s a definitive difference in feel, which also tells me that what was on there seems to be removed.
I think IPA is not an ideal panel prep. I use IPA to clean flux from circuit boards at work sometimes and it’s really not that good in terms of lubricity and without surfactants just moves residue around. The flux remover sprays work a lot better for a perfect finish on the boards (not for paint!). I like the Koch Chemie Pps for paint but it’s overpriced.
@@chrisbradley3224 yep, I used to screen print solder paste for circuit boards and re-flow then clean. 😊
The difference in feel has been explained already on youtube that the sealant is not always 100% gone yet, rather masks itself like its death but can be brought back to life a bit with a wash.
can't wait for Gyeon Total Remover so I can recoat my car with BC 7 next spring.
Very informative for newbies like me. I've often wondered how best to remove previous sealants (consumer versions) to get back to a virgin clear coat. I'm headed over to get some BOLA P35! Thanks again.
Yes….next round !! What about Kamikaze Collection KMKZ Cleansing
Armour detail supply products are good. You should definitely give them a try. Everything ive used from them so far has been good. Great video.
This was a very informative video, but of course, this is Brian doing what he does best! Inform!
I think flooding the hood with water from a hose would have shown the results a bit better, but I know you were inside, and that would not have been good.
Thanks for the video.
Indeed....this time of year, we shut down the outside water and go strictly rinseless.
Yes, would like to see you go further with these videos. To my understanding, isopropyl alcohol isn’t great at removing polishing oils as it doesn’t contain any surfactants and also lacks lubrication. Out of the three you mentioned for removing coatings, do any of them remove coatings off plastics such as a windshield cowl?
Fireball Wax Off has a good chance.
I use Klean strip wax and grease remover in half gallon can
I really enjoy the testing you do , please continue, thanks Brian 👍😁
You're killing it on the content bro! Loving it on my road trip 😅
Another great informative video Brian!
I’d love to see panel preps for coating, strictly for coating prep. No matter how well I remove polish, I seem to have hard to see or find residue in the past. . My double prep has solved that problem. I think as the years have gone by I’m a lot more adept at polish removal but when coating still have that old paranoia of coating failure due to an unclean or rather polish residue left behind. So I over kill the final prep. My reward is no failures now in a several years. Did a BMW X3 today, flawless, Owner ecstatic, I get his Z4 next.
Excellent as always Brian 👊🏼
Very interesting stuff!!... you must try the DIY surface prep 😳👌
Really great video and topic Brian. Was definitely very informative and educational,thank you.
Great video.
Thanks again for all your hard work! I've been learning from every video you produce! I would like to see a great video on the touch-up paint on a hood with a few small rock chips and how you would get the paint from a paint store, should it be base, acrylic or all in one. I know to get the paint code, but where should you go local to get it mixed? any paint place that can mix? Once again Thank you for all your work! You're still the Detail King!
I will get footage for a video.
Doesn't get more non bias than that.true gentlemen and master of his trade
Great great video!!
Love your work..
Something different, good one!
The same test but using sealants or maybe a ceramic coating would be very interesting.
Keep it up sir 👍
This was a great vid as always but I was very surprised not to see Gyeon Prep included as this is a major player in this space.
Bola G37 is both a glass cleaner and hydrophobic coating.
Be careful about assuming what these products contain. Isopropyl and Propanol smell very similar, but are very different!!
Interesting one. I used Mother's CMX to prep (not strip, paint was new and bare) before a coating because it was much more cost effective than others in its 24 oz bottle. They state that it is not alcohol-based and has some lubricantion in order to be safer on the paint. It also had almost no smell. I'll keep some of these others in mind if I need anything more heavy duty in the future.
Nice
Thanks Brian, great job as always. On the next test, could you include an unwaxed panel as a control? I'd like to see performance on removing Ceramic/Si02 spray.
Sure thing!
The after shot of the Bola was the unwaxed panel 😂
I love Fireball Wax Off. Removes sealants and waxes quickly and saves polishing before coating if you don’t want to. The Koch Pps is my favorite regular prep. Glides nicely, flashes quickly, zero residue. Worst prep probably Diamond Body. Loaded with Acetone. Effective but noxious.
Thank you Brian for the review! Helps a lot.
would love to see how the homemade solution does
I dont know about bilt hamber, but gtechniq specifically instructs to not spray directly on the panel and instead a couple sprays on the towel. Should solve the problem of the solvent based preps "seeping" into the clear coat
If this happens, how long does it take to dry out? I left the car to dry for at least an hour before applying my coating.
For polishing oils i go with Gyeon Prep or CarPro Eraser. Eager to try the new Phoenix tongue twister though .
@williambell7712 😆
I was given a 22 oz bottle of Griots “Paint Prep”, I guess it works, I would have loved to see that tested. 🤔
Perhaps you can ask the shop manager to fit a second test into your schedule?? 😏
it should work for polish residue.
the blue stuff? It's super strong.
Excellent video which is very educational. Do you feel the Bola is as strong as the Kamikaze? I will definitely be ordering the Phoenix.
It seems like the same product to me.
@@apexdetail85 thank you
I had always thought use Dawn then 30/70 alcohol to remove waxes before claying? Then use Dawn as your clay lube to be sure all wax is gone... but I don't know all that much.
Which does a better job of removing waxes & such, Bola or Kamakazi?
The goat himself appreciate the video
I used to use gyeon but I now make my own.
I bought Bola P35 after seeing this, the back of the bottle is all in Korean, and the few sites in English that mention it seem to state you're supposed to rinse after? Do you find that to be the case? I'd only use it like you said (as a pre-polish cleanser) if so, which is unfortunate.
My question is = whats the difference if any b tween panel prep and surface prep? Is it just word play??
in the detailing world they use the term panel prep....in body shops...surface prep.
I'd prefer that we use surface prep. The product works on glass and trim as well.
Awesome video and comparison good friend
Thank you! Cheers!
That Bola cleanser polish shouldn't be in this comparison. It's not a paint prep product like the rest of them, it's actually designed to remove LSPs, the rest of them aren't.
Another good one Brian. So after watching i am wondering your thoughts on if you feel there is a difference between cleaning the paint and prepping the paint for protection? I feel that cleaning the paint like prewash (certain shampoos or apc )clay followed by some kind of panel prep for heavier contanaments such as tar , pine pitch is different than prep for protection. I use malco S.A.P for heavy stuff . As for actual protection prep its gyeon. Sorry for the long rambling. Its 5am and not enough coffee . Lol . Keep up the good work.
I recommend both...just to be sure.
Curious to see if something like a Meguiars M83 Cleaner Polish will remove existing protection. Would it do it with just a hand application, or machine only?
I am sure it would by hand....or machine.
Hi Apex D, Mark here from Philippines. I just wanna ask, with the Meguiars Insane Paint Glosser, does it goes first before panel prep or is it the other way around like surface prep first then Paint Glosser then protection like waxes or sealant, thanks OG!
Just buy a final wipe prep solvent at an automotive paint supply store. Way more economical and does the job.
I would be interested in why your guys choose a certain prep over another. I don't have enough experience and the ones I've used are similiar...ive just used the gyeon one
We like a smooth glide across the panel while wiping. We would not want to enduce marring while using a prep.
Hey Brian , you should try veritas it’s a panel prep from labo it can be diluted and will remove a wax straight
Link for the product line?
Honestly, dawn power wash will take care of it better than any of these chemicals will and its available at walmart. Not impressed by any of these.
No Gyeon?? I only ask because it's what I see you using in other videos.
I am currently out of Gyeon.....works great for polish residues.
Just use dish soap 😊👍
I’ve actually foamed some vehicles with a strong alkaline soap to get into some small areas prior To coating, especially when the final polish was Sonax perfect finish which I love…but it dusts. Then a panel prep , my final rinse will reveal and residue still on the car.
@@alanwallace3253 that why you use disc soap last wash😊👍🎶🎸
50/50 mix dish soap(ph 6-6-5 and vinegar (ph 2-3) insane combo 👍😊 takes mineral, oil,greas etc etc ,can use and acid base rim cleaner too mix with disch soap, leave no residue.
Is it me or the solvent based looked like it Melting wax away?
It does look thay way.
Fyi when shop Mgr barks it lunchtime...😆😆
Looks to be shill for Bola
Labocosmetica Veritas, thank me later