SHOULD THIS MID HANDICAP GOLFER CHANGE HIS IRONS?! PING VS TAYLORMADE!
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- Опубліковано 7 лис 2020
- MID HANDICAP 2020 ON COURSE IRON BATTLE! MID HANDICAP IRON BATTLE... PING i210 vs TAYLORMADE P7MC IRONS - ON COURSE TEST! What are the best irons for Mid handicap golfers? The best mid handicap irons of 2020? Ping have always made great irons for mid handicap and high handicap golfers... so are they still top of the tree when it comes to buying new golf cubs for mid handicap golfers? in this video we test out the Tailor-made P7MC irons vs the PING i210 irons... which are the best irons of 2020? the most forgiving irons of 2020? the most forgiving golf clubs? I think its about time we let 12 handicap golfer Mark test them out... lets find out... and lets do it now!
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Really enjoyed the vibe of this video. Easy watching and enjoyable throughout. Some incredible shots on that par 3 too. I'd love to see a video where you take a high handicapper newbie golfer like myself and test the difference between a beginner package set and a set of fitted clubs. Lots of us out there that wonder whether a fitting and higher quality equipment would help our game, and to what degree.
Great irons ping 210i’s can’t see me changing em for the taylormade’s ,feel so soft as good as previous forged irons I’ve had before ,
good to see different ability’s playing the clubs , keep up the great context James
You can’t beat an on course video and it’s great to see Mark testing irons out on the course. Mark hit the nail on the head with his comment about not accepting the clubs without a fitting 👏👏.
I hope you get to film club swap video with Mark 🙏🙏
Mark! Looking good out there! Keep plugging away and that handicap is bound to drop some more for next season!
James you and Mark continue to be the reason I haven't held a full set for more than 6 months 😂 love your videos
Un-confirmed rumours have it that James too might be swapping his new 6 month old Mizuno's for Cobra Mim's but he won't admit it yet 😂
Have the Ping i210 and absolutely love them. Soft when you pure them
Great little comparison from Spriggsy. As always, interesting to hear the thoughts of the mid handicapper 👍👍
These 2 irons are on my list for comparison along with Titleist T-100 when I go for my custom fit next spring. Would like to see a T100’s comparison also
Was fitted 2 months ago just couldn’t get on with the taylormades ( don’t know why ) and ended up going i500 in the end with traditional loft , love the sound and the feel of the i500s , when your the putters not working it’s not working mark
Hey James, great video. Just wanted to know what shafts are on the p7mc and the i210? Thanks.
If my memory serves me right are marks ping irons not slightly longer than standard? would be intresting to see what a fitted set of mc's are like tho
I'm mid handicapper and looking to change irons at Christmas. Really timely video for me and will definitely give both irons a try. Looking at Mark's game an interesting video would be a putting lesson with Chris. Probably would give Mark massive benefits. Keep up the great content.👍👍
Looking at carrying for winter golf james (when where allowed back on the course) Is your bag heavy? Do you carry a full set all the time? What split is the bag you use 4 way 5 way or more what would you recommend? Wanting a decent light bag for 18 holes cheers
It all comes down to putting👍 Its interesting that you wouldnt have another set of irons without a fitting... but did you have a Putter fitting for the Toulon? In an average round I hit between 14 and 18 shots with an iron from my set but have anything from 26 - 34 putts with my putter and I just use a putter I like the looks of. I've booked a fitting at Ping in Gainsborough in January for driver and putter. It will be my first putter fitting and hopefully can get me down to scratch.
Great day for ⛳ Great little display of the Taylor Mades. Can't wait to try them. 👍💯🇨🇦
James, I have the ping i200’s and like them very much. What’s the difference between the i200’s and the ping i210’s? Love your videos, keep em coming!
Topic Suggestion: What's the best value for the beginner , A current cheap driver , i.e. Slazenger V300 v Old but good driver i.e. Original Big Bertha , both have about the same value these days but which will be the better club ?, has technology advanced enough to make the V300 as good as a 20yr old driver?.
Suppose the custom fitting and premium clubs are not in the budget.... should these clubs be considered or would you be better off with cheaper clubs fitted?
Love the Ping 210’s. Had them for 8 months. Had my best round yesterday. Get fitted for them!
what do you game now?
You should do more mid-handicap videos. Clubs like Mavrik Max's and other mid to high handicap club reviews would be more relatable
Thumbs up for Mid HCP review. Honestly, I am sort of sick of all those reviews where some pro hits a driver like 300 yards, that is of absolutely no use for me (and I guess most golfers) at all. But sadly those flood youtube instead of videos like this.
I have a set of the mcs and they are buttery soft. So much so that they dinging up really fast. Thin sole width also. Maybe get a set of winter irons with wider soles to counter soft conditions. They feel great though. Better even that Callaway forged.
Just ordered Ping i210 last weekend. Cant wait to get them.. if lockdown ever ends.
We have to play off AstroTurf Winter tees and use mats on the fairways as our course is so wet during winter☹️
I’ve just bought the taylormade mc can’t wait to have them next month 👍🏻 keep up the good work fellas
Sweet! Those clubs look sexxxxxy! Justin has some P790s and loves them!! Hit em well brotha (from one bearded golfer to another 🤣)!
@@OntheFringeGolf cheers budd. If I don’t hit them well atleast they’ll look good 🤷🏻♂️🤣
Topic suggestion... hybrids or woods with 3 different shafts. Low, med and high launch shafts and which suits what swing speed.
If someone cant afford a fit it is a bit of a guess as to what is more suitable for mid handycappers. Thx for the great content!
Ps ...James has the Jon Rahm swing down pat and the adidas attire to boot
TXG has a video with the three Fujikura Ventus profiles. Launch profile isn't directly related to speed, because the launch created it completely dependent on how one loads and delivers a shaft.
@@sebastiannachilly500 Thx!...yes i love that channel and have been watching it for a while. He mentioned club head speed but also transition type smooth or fast and how the club head is loaded in transition with those 2 types of actions... Mark has a swing speed and smoother transition similar to mine which is 1 reason why i hoped he would maybe test his hybrid with the tensei ck red blue black and orange and see what the number say. Matty boy on TXG has pga tour swing speed which is not relatable at all. Thx for the reply
I've had my PING i210's for over 2yrs, great irons; it'll be a while before they get traded in for something else!
Curious, are you still using them?
16:10 cant figure out what going on here, did he go really far to the left and over the green, seems two holes on the same fairway
Looking forward to the m7 review 😀
Yes, would love to see you two switch clubs and play a 3 part nine hole match
I like the p7mc. What I would do is have a 4.5..6. In the p7mc and 7.8 9 wedge in the p790..more of a go to shots!..what do you guys think?
Normally this would be done the other way round. You generally need the added forgiveness in the longer irons!
I play i210s and have tried the P7MCs. That was very little different between them in terms of performance in the 7i testing club and I really could not tell much difference in feel. It is obvious that in the longer irons the P7MC has the smaller head but it is not so small as to be scary for someone who plays i210s. The problem for me with the P7MCs are the P770s.
If you play i210s there is no real reason to switch
13:17 - That driver was timed perfectly!
Great recovery on the first. Anyone else miss Mark’s burnt orange strides?
He needs to test Mizuno Hot metal pros. His game has been great. Mark has been working hard and should go try to get clubs for his new game.
Mark, hurry, you missed the target (car). Is there loft differences between the sets?
Does anyone know what golf shoes mark has on ?
I'm a 9 Handicap. Would I be ok with the 7MC's?
Your videos are awesome
RICK⛳
YOU MAKE A Walking golf bag look fun and easy..I walk 3 holes...And went back to GET A GOLF CART🚦⛳
Thought that was going to be a hole in one James 🏌️♂️⛳👍
Off 11 and have had two sets of the P7MC and they are really quite forgiving.
Swap, look forward to seeing the vlog gentlemen.
If Mark is not intimidated by the profile, I think the feel and feedback of a fitted set of Taylormade MCs would only enhance his experience and game potentially. The thinner sole may improve the turf interaction. He smoked the 5 iron off the tee. The sound difference was obvious.
I'm guessing Mark's biggest problem with the Taylormades, when reflected upon, is turf interaction. i210's have a wider, rounder soul allowing for less turf interaction. Betting the Taylormade irons have a tendency to dig in a bit.
I mean even though he is a little over the top, he seems to be a picker rather than a digger. I thought the taylormades sole would favor him
It’s funny James always thinks he’s two clubs longer and always comes up way short! :)
lol. I'm about a club longer than James tends to be, and he usually takes the same club I would.
depends on why he is a mid-handicap golfer. The P7MC's are not the most forgiving and the longer irons are a bit daunting to look at compared to many other cavity back irons. Ping irons are always relevant but I cant ever get over the offset and top lines of them.
i210 is still the best iron for low to mid handicap. Top top quality 🏆🥇
Ping will still be relevant in 2 years after Taylormade have brought 2 new replacements to the market.
They looked comparable irons. Surely you'd need a big benefit to justify investing in a new set so rather than ask "would you swap for free?" isn't the better question "are these worth the money?"
The Taylormade's remind me of the Sergio inspired TP forged from about decade ago.
Mark seems to be picker would do better with narrower sole???
6hc Just ordered my p770s cant wait!!!
I play with i210 and love them
Sorry James it looked like the 16th at Bradley but obviously not. Enjoy your content, keep getting Liam across to the right side of the penninines
Mark playing great !
Mid handicap Mark does a great job in the videos
Hey James, would be great to see you both swap bags and play a round 👍
Thank you for all you do to entertain all of us DAILY! Others do this once a week. You are an unbelievable fun loving youtuber who cares about those that follow you! If I could give 10 thumbs up I would. Keep up the daily content
Appreciate that Bruce thanks for the kind words. And without doubt Alex Etches is lazy. I wholeheartedly agree. Have an awesome week buddy!
Not a lover of the new fashion a lot of manufacturers are doing horizontal lines on the back of the heads.
James send me a set of mc and I’ll tell you how I find them 😂
Like to see swap of irons video;
Still a mid Hcp'er ? After all this time? Game must be stale with no progress. Doubt new irons will change that.....
When you play with Mark, where do you think he loses shots or struggles? Does he know these areas, does he work on them? Or just happy floating around the mid Hcp mark?
You look to be at Bradley park james, it would be good once this latest insanity is done to play a round with you. Got a couple of mates who would play to make it a four ball.
Looks like Huddersfield golf club to me
I would like to see you guys trade clubs!
Sundays are s##t without golf 😭
Disappointed you not got the M7 🤔
How about the Mizuno MMC's just throwing that out there.
Swap the clubs. i enjoy those videos.
I still play ping s55 love my pings
nice vid
Has mark got his grandson.s golf shoes on
The i210's and P770MC's are both tour level clubs. Why we continue to push mid-handicappers into these demanding clubs is beyond me. I'm a 4 handicap and own both the i210's and G400's and have tested them side by side many times. I game the G400's. I encourage people to fight the urge to play more and more demanding irons unless you are an up and coming junior with a realistic shot of playing college golf or beyond.
After being fit several times, completely agree with this! Everyone wants to play blades because they think it's some rite of passage. We're certainly not good enough (as is evident in our vlogs) to play blades and realize it 🤣
We are not talking about blades. I am 11 HCP player and have the i210 in the bag. The reason that I am not a single HCP player is because of my short game (mainly shots within 100 yrds). So in my opinion if you are decent ball striker, you can play the i210, however these TM irons seems indeed for the better amateur player
@@rrberendes The i210's have a bunch of wins on the PGA and LPGA tours in 2020. They are surgical tools for the absolute best ball strikers in the world. I have no problem with anyone playing them... but the ball will curve more and come up short more than some other options. If you lack spin the i210's will spin more (they rip back for me which is one of the reasons I choose not to play them- I play mostly muni's and soft-medium greens).
Hey mate also switched from i210 to g410 recently (11,7 HCP so mid HCP). Fully agree with you now! These irons are much easier to hit than the i210s! I think our friend Mark should try these as well! Should improve his game as well 😜
@@IamNexu I disagree. They are soft cast irons that give you consistent results. If you have power you don’t need a distance boosting hollow iron, particularly because if you strike it well it may go 15 yards further. I’d rather take the shorter precise shot than a ballooned shot. Golf is about confidence. For some midhandicappers it may be the fact that they don’t play enough. But when they do, people like me simply like to play with a smaller head.
Go for the mizuno hot metals. Sweet feeling and very forgiving. At no time did Mark need to shape the shot. I can shape my hot metal irons you just have to deliberately make the move.
Mizuno jpx 921 forged / hotmetal pro mark
100% - just picked up this combo with the Forged GW-6, HMP in 5 & 4, the CLK 3#. Killer combo
When does Mark become a low handicapper? Single figures?
Yeah I reckon so
Looks like Mark could with a putting lesson from Chris Dennis
I hate the Maverik look at address but am playing them any way, cause there more forgiving. And I was scoring like shit at first, but just kept at it. After 2 rounds getting use to the big look blade and scoring pars. Was playing TaylorMade M4"s. Still have the taylors small irons in the bag.
Should be ‘should my mate get some free clubs?’ 😜
Thats what every video would be mate
@@JamesRobinsonGolf 😀 Coincidently, I’m a ping player thinking about P790s so video right up my street
Mark you are stabbing with your putter. Need to be smoother and follow though towards the hole. Great shots on last hole. Could to do that and hole in one is in Mark's future.
I'm sure the TMs feel and perform well, but.... I can't get over the George Foreman esq grill on the back! 🙈 Why TM?????
I think the lines make it look better than if it was a plain background
@@jackiechow860 I think you're wrong! But it didn't need to be plain, just not a grill! 🙈
@@jaybyrne4562 fair enough. Eye of the beholder. Regardless the rest of the new TM stuff is great looking
@@jackiechow860 the blades and the p770s look unreal!
Love the content. I would lose my shit playing with Mark. The amount of time it took him to get ready to hit a shot or line up a putt would probably bring some rage out.
if he sorts his putting out, he will be shaving strokes for fun!
Silly but I guess it's useful..... It's the Indian not the Arrow gentleman
James is a great block put I hate his swing
Is it as bad as your spelling?
No
All the manufacturer give you every cheat they can and you say no give me some thing harder to hit straight and make it feel good. (I'm happy now). What the F
Alright i'm the idiot. Please explain to me why you would not be using the most forgiving clubs ever made? I got in this conversation at the course. There reasoning was to get out of trouble. My problem with that was. You would not be in that predicament if you were using the most forgiving clubs in the first place. I realize there's going to be bad shots, but your bad shots are not going to be so bad (with forgiving clubs). Hit a blade bad your going to get punished big time ! So James Robinson tell me why I should play the clubs that look the best. That's what you do and can't beat Chris.
The ball will tell you if you can use them, not your handicap
Can mark play any slower??
Yes mate. We all can. He runs to the ball and then takes his time. What you should do
Sorry James, didn’t mean to call anyone out, I find it hard watching other people play, as I’m quite a quick player, the whole three stabs to line the ball up when putting really grates..
If you are replacing a set of i210's you are essentially throwing away cash, great irons
Watch the video buddy... 🤘🏼
Didnt this guy buy the i500s, then got the i210? And now he is looking at new clubs? This guy is such a golfing cliche. I’m an 8 handicap and have been using the same sticks for 6 years. Buying a new set isn’t going to make me a 5.
He got them over a year ago Jason... maybe you watched the video 3 months ago... there’s a cliche 😂😂😂 but well done for getting down to 8
@@JamesRobinsonGolf I guess as long as he’s spending all that money with you...no cliche there either, right? New sticks every 6-12 months is a joke.
@@jdstarek mate you realise it’s our jobs to test golf clubs right? Try to bring you guys enjoyable and entertaining videos. As well as hopefully valid opinions on new releases
Why play blades and not forgiving irons?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? DON"T UNDESTAND
Slowest club review ever, stop faffing about and hit the damn things!
Where's the social distancing, sharing tees definitely within the 2 Meter rule multiple times...
Not very responsible James that's probably why golf has been shutdown again ..
Very Disappointing from a PGA Profesional....
Rodney - You sound like the kinda guy that would call the authorities on a kid with a lemonade stand for not having the proper permits. You probably also get out of the shower to pee.
Take your hysteria elsewhere. This plandemic is a bullshit hoax. Shame you can't see that.
Seriously, if you think golfing outside is at risk, stay at home. And don’t watch and comment videos, neither.
Only idiots can shut down golf due to COVID.