have you missed any of my other challenges? check the playlist! - ua-cam.com/video/2pRnV2yrs1g/v-deo.html And friendly reminder were doing a brand new randomizer for final fantasy 9 over on twitch if you want to come hang out and watch the hilarioity ensure (Seriously its crazy) www.twitch.tv/primalliquid92
I just started a new playthrough of X-2, and I remembered how much fun it is. If you feel up to it, I thought an Item Only challenge would be fun. ...Well, it would be fun for us to watch. Probably won't be fun for you though.
Wait...the final fight Seph vs Cloud, does cloud even have materia on him? you must of omnislashed him! fail! lol I learned a few things about the game from this and i thought i pretty much knew everything about it by now.
So fun fact, you actually totally can catch Chocobos in this challenge. They are extremely resistant to Instant Death, which makes using Odin basically auto-capture them as he kills all other enemies while leaving the Chocobo alive. That lets you get Knights of the Round, which can kill both weapons for sure. Cheers.
Correct Odin's instant kill misses the Chocobo's and won't cause them to run away BUT if playing the PS4 remaster you COULD use the Infinite HP/MP/Limit cheat and use Barrets Hammer Blow limit Every turn single target to kill all but the Chocobo and still capture them that way if they don't run away before you can hammer blow like 2 to 4 enemies at once.
21:57 "or because i'm so rich i can just buy GP" I don't usually like doing 2nd comments, but this still hits me hard ro this day. The first time i tried this, it told me to "leave and come back 50 times". I didn't realise it meant leave THE SCREEN and come back, so like a plank, i hopped on the tram back and forth (and this was OG, no triple speed). IT TOOK BLOODY AGES playing the cutscenes over and over again!
7:42 - "it's impossible for me to do wutai with my rules." Yuffie can only steal a set amount of materia (48 if you do it right away i think). I know for most people playing that would be most / all of their materia, but considering the amount of grinding you're doing you'll prob have a lot by then (and choco/mog is low on the priority list so you may get to keep all of them. 🤣
I think you can hold 250, and she steals 200. However, they always prioritise summons first, so if your materia has ANY deviance from Summon class materia you'll probably be stuck with it.
I gotta say Primalliquid, I have mad respect for you. I can't imagine having the level of patience and determination to do the videos you do. All I can say is I enjoy your content and I appreciate your efforts!!
We're absolutely feasting on this channel recently! Cheers for so many great challenge runs, my favourite FF challenge channel. I got a bit worried a bit back with the channel update and the possible winding-down/focus shift, but glad to see so much great content. Inspired me to follow the tips and advice on one of the videos and do it myself. I have always wondered how long each challenge takes to plan and execute, it would be a really interesting metric of challenge/grind/primal's patience. Some of the hints we've had in the past seeing glimpses of game clocks are always shocking lol
Interesting. For the Lost Number thing it might be the stop/paralyse from choco/mog that stops it doing the form change? If it was a counter to damage below a certain HP then the counter would never go off. Need to try it with added effect and choco/mog on weapon sometime.
Weirdest thing about this challange for me was that Kujata summon exists in ff7. I think I have cast it once in the all the runs I've done in this game and totally forgotten about it.
thank you for condensing your +100 hour game time into only 36 minutes. Was awesome to see you struggle at a few points and then see you overcome them with new strats. Also, that's alot of Bahamuts. P.S would you ever ... EVER ... challenge yourself to beat a minimum battles FF7 run using KOTR for every battle? Purely just to see the final game time
For the amount of time taken to make this video I had to comment! This was amazing and very entertaining! I've always loved ff7 it was my 2nd rpg ever played next to legend of legaia. Keep up the amazing work!!
On lost number, I believe he doesn't split if he happens to be paralyzed/stopped when you hit the split threshold. I've definitely had him split off of a summon before
@@Primalliquid92 depends on how it's flagged in the code. If it's a one time trigger, it might be completely bypassed if he's stunned at the wrong time, and knowing some of the other FF7 glitches.... It is just a guess though
@@omniunown @Primalliquid92 It's not a 1-time trigger. It's more similar to a counterattack. If every hit you do stuns the boss or occurs while the boss is already stunned, it will never change forms since it can't respond to your move. The LLNIIENACMO Challenge shows a great example of how this can be deliberately weaponized to prevent it from ever changing form.
On the Lost Number fight, the reason he didn't transform is that Choco/Mog was stunning him. You probably used up all your other summons before knocking him down to the HP threshold for the transformation. I believe it is coded as a counter, and since stun causes counterattacks to be skipped, he never got a chance to do it. Saw Death_unites_us do this to beat Lost Number in a challenge Mod.
Ok so the story behind motor ball. It’s not that he is weak to wind or anything, the way the game got coded, since it was also so buggy, means that specific encounter, and all back attack encounters are coded in wrong. It swaps out the character and enemy positions, so instead of you getting a true back attack, it’s gives you the boosts of preemptive attacks but attacking last, having your team in the back row makes it read as you are in the front row, taking more damage, where if you were initially in front row, it would lead to less damage. With preemptive attacks on your part, you actually do less damage to the enemy and they can do more to you, you just get the attack first. So what happened with motor ball is that you do 1.5-2x damage and since you were back rowed before, you are front row now.
The final battle is essentially grabbing a huge bag of popcorn and watching a space dragon beat up a crazed mutant half-alien for an hour. Best movie ever.
7:40 Technically, Wutai IS possible, if you have enough Summon materia. Yuffie only takes so many materia, and if you have more than that, you get to keep it for the quest.
Challenge video idea. When FfX came out it was all the rage. I think I got bored during the walkthrough portions of the game and suspect I button mashed my way through the grid tutorials. Subsequently I didn't interact with the sphere grid until around Zanarkin when I couldn't beat a boss or something like that. I asked my friend for help, and he both laughed and was impressed I had made it that far with zero sphere grid inputs. I'm not sure how to implement this into a challenge, but it has rattled around my head as just that.
Hey man, hope you're doing well. Just curious, is your platinum FF5PR walkthrough going to be anytime soon? I'm all caught up and don't want to buy it until you start so I can follow. Your guides helped me a lot, much appreciation of you. You seem like a good man, and your guides help. That said, you earned my subscription.
You should have a play around with yuffie warping, you can do some really cool stuff like skip over Aerith's death and grab all of the TotA loot, no mods required but it only works on the pc version. You can even use it to access the debug room which is next level confusing but great fun to play around in and see what happens. Also, why arent you using mods to make it look beautiful? It's the remake I've always wanted 😅 Love your work dude, thanks for the content 🤙
Oh yeah, about Lost number, a strategy I always try is using Cross-Slash or Choco/Mog to stop it from the split. It works somehow, I dont know the mechanics
Every time I see the title "Can you blank using blank..." I immediately say "no." There are almost IMMEDIATELY some caveats. I still appreciate the effort.
How about FFX-2, but only using Mascot? It is technically accessible the moment you gain access to the Airship and should provide an interesting challenge since a lot of what makes them good are locked behind unlocking skills in other classes, and thus would be locked in a Mascot only run.
I think you can use odin to catch a chocobo as it should miss. But I cant remember if that actually makes it run away still or if it works. Odin wont ever hit the chocobo. If this were true KOTR mastered to help make master summon then equip hp absorb and mp absorb to master summon and any kotr allows you to spam win with it as the damage output will heal you fully.
I do love these challenges - I’m sure this would be cake and super easy but I wonder if you could beat the game using only Enemy Skills I bet with Trine, Beta, & Aqualung it would be quite easy, so not much challenge
According to some research I've done real quick, taken from the internet so it may not be perfect: You can do Wutai. What I do know is: Yuffie only steals a certain amount of Materia (I'm seeing 48 come up a few places), and there's a priority list. Comparing a list I found (But cannot confirm the veracity of) to a list of materia shops: Fort Condor sells Throw or Deathblow once Meteor begins falling, either of which are above Odin, Titan, Ramuh, Ifrit, Shiva, and Chocobo Mog (Also Leviathan but you can't have that before Wutai). So buy about 40 of those (Considering you'll already have a few of the other higher placed materias on the list by then) and you should be able to keep a good number of the lower end summons. Edit: And then you did it. Oh well.
You mentioned before Air Buster that you didn't use your 2nd Choco/Mog Materia because you wanted to give it to Aerith. Are you not aware of the Arrange -> Exchange Materia menu? It let's you take Materia off of party members not present at the time. Super useful. As for a new challenge idea, I'd love to watch you try out the Scavenger mod that me and 4-8 productions made. And if it sounds too easy, do it without shopping. It also teaches you a lot of things due to its unique nature
yea i just completely forgot about the exchange bit given i normally dont really need to ever swap gear or materia in my usual runs and i might check the scavenger mod out on stream some time
I think Lost Number doesn't split if it is paralyzed or stunned once it crosses certain HP threshold. You can do this with Cloud's Cross Slash limit, too. Materia Keeper also doesn't cure itself if it is stunned or paralyzed during its threshold crossing.
Its funny how your love for the summon animation is directly counter proportional to how many hours you've had to sit through them and recency of said hours.
Love to see you try the Necrosis MO challenge. Rules are magic only cant escape battles, but you can only heal at mandatory story heal points. So no inns, out of battle healing, no ethers, etc
@Primalliquid92 yeah its a nasty challenge dreamed up from the GameFaqs FF7 board. Pretty sure only one person is proven to have done it and it was brutal Id have to look it up but Im sure there are more restrictionsin forgetting
For the ruby fight, if you enter the fight with only 1 character alive, ie the one on 7777hp, he will put his hands in the ground allowing you to damage him, a w-summon with pheonix and hades would allow you to revive your party members and inflict status on ruby. Then w-summon hades with another summon. the limit might be his hp and you running out of summoning power or mp before he dies but if you can maybe you'll beat him. I feel your pain for the grind though. I have a save with master materia for each character, all their stats maxed, every weapon / item available and other materia maxed multiple times to allow me to try various strategies on enemies. The grind took ages. Also was working on an FFX grind at maxing summon stats except luck and mp but I haven't been on that in a while.
Something that may have helped reduce the grind is Cloud’s Apocalypse weapon, which in addition to being a three-slot weapon with triple growth also gives +43 magic and +16 spirit, raising magic damage dealt significantly. As far as I know, this is the only weapon to boost magic, so it makes sense that it would have been overlooked.
Cloud's Apocalypse can only be accessed with a Gold Chocobo, or after you TRULY defeat Ultimate Weapon. Trident might have been a more realistic choice because at least it's readily available through normal main quest actions. Many have pointed out, however, that gaining a Gold Chocobo IS possible after all, since Odin can cause instant death to the non-chocobo enemies but almost always misses Chocobo. I wish I had known that sooner...
Odin can 1 shot creatures in a chocobo fight and keep the chocobo alive. So the chocobo/breeding quest is fully possible. Choco/Mog gains power the more you flee from battle. Once you hit lvl 40 in the train graveyard you should power the materia by fleeing for an hour or 2
I feel like you could’ve used some interesting material combinations to blow by these challenge ez. Just put 1 HP-MP Materia, Final Attack + Phoenix Materia and you should have enough MP and revives for all fights. Also, if you needed to fight ruby weapon, kill off all but one member in your party. You’d need chocobo summon for paralysis, and mime along with 6 knights of the round. Alternatively (this is just a theory) you could have 5 mime with 5 master summon materia and and W summon with master summon. Any of these would kill ruby, but you’d have to grind heavy for it.
Another great challenge video. Have you seen what Dansg08 has been doing lately ? Editing a series of videos for one challenge. It is a kind of content I have been enjoying a lot lately. It could allow you to get more content from a challenge that took hundred of hours. Anyway keep up the grindy work 😊
so off the top of my head, the glitch requires 2 saves and on a version such as steam where the game uses different types of save states. This doesnt work on ps1. First save you must have more party members available such as phs showing 5 characters over the 3 you have in sector 7. Go into the materia menu and select customize to see all members who have materia equipped. Go to the last member of the team and only in the weapon slot you can place the first 2 materia you want to duplicate make sure you exit the screen without moving the curser so its still technically on the last member of the team list. Get into a battle and get a game over. this allows you to store some data without exiting the game which will wipe any leftover data. Next instead of pulling up the same game bring up a different save where you have less party members. load up and go to the materia section and go to customize, if it worked you should still be on the previous last party member slot(which will look blank) you previously had and you can see the two materia you brought over and have them on this save. This doesnt effect the previous game and only works on PC and later as data is stored differently and isnt wiped until you exit the game fully. This is off the top of my head and may have missed a step but this is the basic idea. I played a game with a mostly full enemy skill materia once and was super fun to play though
IWell, at least this matches FF7 Remake having summons in Midgar. WELP, you made me want to see for myself if Lost Number really ignores summons for triggering his transformation... I never knew for the longest time you could fight battles in the Black materia hieroglyph mural room. Selling all the mastered Alls to buy shitload of Alls made me lol. Oh that Yuffie. LOL at glitching the airship landing to get to the Quadra Magic cave... I wouldn't have minded if you got Knights of the Round at least for Sephiroth, but I understand. Knights is just too good. I have considered a run of Barrett Ungermax only.
you know, it absolutely would have violated the spirit of the challenge, but with the "any materia is fine" rule, you could have abused counterattack and command counter to do damage without using battle commands...you know, actually, that could be a fun challenge in itself! NO commands issued in battle, ANY materia combo allowed.
I’d love to see a “can you solo ff9 with traumatized dagger” challenge. Anything in her toolkit + items and abilities, just using her crappy disc 3 version that sometimes can’t concentrate. Idk if such a mod exists though.
You can actually take materia into wutai. She only steals a set amount of materia (can't recall how many exactly). Then the surplus remains in the inventory
Actually if you gather up enough materia yuffie only takes a certain amount and you met get left with some Summons. also I know it might be implied but you did not say no glitches so you can smuggle materia into wutai. If you dont know how 4-8 productions does show this glitch in one of his videos
Just commenting at the beginning of the video that you don't need to best ruby weapon for KotR. You can beat it or Emerald for it. Either one works. I always beat Emerald first because Ruby is virtually immune to physical atracks. Going Emerald first you can mime Omnislash, get the master summon materia, then use Hades followed by KotR repeatedly
I'm kind of surprised you didn’t smuggle a second summon with the glitch. Or could you? Is the limit the NPC's 1 armour slot? If so, crap. Choco Mog is probably a good play, but i wonder at the merit of smuggling Ramuh instead, since most enemies in Midgar are weak to lightning. Is it castable?
Can you beat FF7 with only Enemy Skill Materia? Rules: 1. Get to 7th Heaven. You Smuggle in an Enemy Skill Materia with Matra Magic on it into the game. Begin run here. 2. Only Enemy Skills allowed. 3. No items allowed in battle.
18:38 i think the dev team talked about this. Life Magic and Phoenix Downs can only heal unconsciousness and not terrible wounds. She was stabbed through the heart so she can’t be revived.
I haven't even started the video yet, and it's been a while since I played the original FF7... aren't summons unskippable cutscenes? I remember waiting for hours while Knights of the Round finished back in the day haha.
well.. since you allow to equip every materia for its special effect as you said... counter/magic counter ... which makes it possible to catch chocobos (by being attackt by the surrounding enemies first, before the chocobo flees ). which then again makes breading possible. is it a stupid rng thing to do? yes. is it worse then what you grinded? no :)
Does anyone know the name of the background music? I have been trying to find it for a while now but to no avail. I would appreciate it, thank you in advance.
@@Primalliquid92 you did make Daph watch as you had to beat her dragon friends on the ffx run like six times lol you have a good reason to bicker on a shirt lol! Youre awesome though prime and I love my only flans hoodie.
have you missed any of my other challenges? check the playlist! - ua-cam.com/video/2pRnV2yrs1g/v-deo.html
And friendly reminder were doing a brand new randomizer for final fantasy 9 over on twitch if you want to come hang out and watch the hilarioity ensure (Seriously its crazy) www.twitch.tv/primalliquid92
The answer to your question is no you can't beat final fantasy 7 with just summons you stupid B I T C H.
Surprised ya didn't use mimic. Lol but I'm only into midgar
I just started a new playthrough of X-2, and I remembered how much fun it is. If you feel up to it, I thought an Item Only challenge would be fun. ...Well, it would be fun for us to watch. Probably won't be fun for you though.
Wait...the final fight Seph vs Cloud, does cloud even have materia on him? you must of omnislashed him! fail! lol
I learned a few things about the game from this and i thought i pretty much knew everything about it by now.
So fun fact, you actually totally can catch Chocobos in this challenge. They are extremely resistant to Instant Death, which makes using Odin basically auto-capture them as he kills all other enemies while leaving the Chocobo alive. That lets you get Knights of the Round, which can kill both weapons for sure. Cheers.
seriously? :( i really wish i knew this before hand, does the attack not make them instantly run away though?
I was unaware of their status resistance, but I can confirm that I've captured chocobo via Odin summon.
@@Primalliquid92The trigger for Chocobo capture probably takes priority in this scenario.
Correct Odin's instant kill misses the Chocobo's and won't cause them to run away BUT if playing the PS4 remaster you COULD use the Infinite HP/MP/Limit cheat and use Barrets Hammer Blow limit Every turn single target to kill all but the Chocobo and still capture them that way if they don't run away before you can hammer blow like 2 to 4 enemies at once.
that negates the challenge run@@veghesther3204
21:57 "or because i'm so rich i can just buy GP"
I don't usually like doing 2nd comments, but this still hits me hard ro this day. The first time i tried this, it told me to "leave and come back 50 times". I didn't realise it meant leave THE SCREEN and come back, so like a plank, i hopped on the tram back and forth (and this was OG, no triple speed). IT TOOK BLOODY AGES playing the cutscenes over and over again!
haha exactly how i used to do it back in the old days aswell
Me too lol
Man I don’t know how you manage to do challenges like this without it taking ten years, massive respect
lots of content on the second monitor lol and the fact its my job means i can dedicate 12-15 hours a day to it
@@Primalliquid92can I ask why you don’t just speed up the game? That would save hundreds of hours
The fact that the answer isn't a straight up "no" is incredible. Great job as always!
That menu color combination is a crime against humanity
No bahamuts were harmed during the making of this video.
7:42 - "it's impossible for me to do wutai with my rules."
Yuffie can only steal a set amount of materia (48 if you do it right away i think). I know for most people playing that would be most / all of their materia, but considering the amount of grinding you're doing you'll prob have a lot by then (and choco/mog is low on the priority list so you may get to keep all of them. 🤣
I think you can hold 250, and she steals 200. However, they always prioritise summons first, so if your materia has ANY deviance from Summon class materia you'll probably be stuck with it.
There's also a materia glitch you can get hide two materias in secret slots
I gotta say Primalliquid, I have mad respect for you. I can't imagine having the level of patience and determination to do the videos you do. All I can say is I enjoy your content and I appreciate your efforts!!
Using the airship clip for quadra magic was a really interesting way to do more damage with the summons. Great run
Yes it was! figured i had to just to get the damage in before i was murdered
@@Primalliquid92quadra magic bahamut zero is a great way to go to the restroom or get a drink mid-fight! especially when paired with W-Summon!
adore it!!!! dont hurt urself grinding out vids but loving them!!!!!
"I...I wanna revive Aeris but it's a summons only challenge....gotta respect the challenge *lowers her into the water*"
may she rest in piece
@@Primalliquid92 she did become holey once she lost holy.
You mean "pieces". Sephy basically bisected her.
@@IUsedToFermentThingsDude... Harsh
"I'm not dead ye-blurglurg"
We're absolutely feasting on this channel recently! Cheers for so many great challenge runs, my favourite FF challenge channel. I got a bit worried a bit back with the channel update and the possible winding-down/focus shift, but glad to see so much great content. Inspired me to follow the tips and advice on one of the videos and do it myself.
I have always wondered how long each challenge takes to plan and execute, it would be a really interesting metric of challenge/grind/primal's patience. Some of the hints we've had in the past seeing glimpses of game clocks are always shocking lol
Interesting. For the Lost Number thing it might be the stop/paralyse from choco/mog that stops it doing the form change? If it was a counter to damage below a certain HP then the counter would never go off. Need to try it with added effect and choco/mog on weapon sometime.
I'm pretty sure I've seen this 'trick' before with cross-slash as well.
I no longer have the time to do crazy stuff like this, so I love living vicariously through your videos!
Weirdest thing about this challange for me was that Kujata summon exists in ff7. I think I have cast it once in the all the runs I've done in this game and totally forgotten about it.
thyphoon is always the one i hear people forgetting about the most since its so late and utterly useless since its just a slightly stronger kujata
Havent done any reruns of og ff7 since 2009, but its mostly your fault, because you hit the sweet spot of between nostalgia and new cool things.
yeah agreed. I barely used Kujata and Typhoon, they were just ... uhh ... not needed (aka useless by the time you get them).
Great video as always, Primal 😎👍👍
Love Daph's little messages that pop up through the video. ❤
the synogy is great haha
thank you for condensing your +100 hour game time into only 36 minutes. Was awesome to see you struggle at a few points and then see you overcome them with new strats.
Also, that's alot of Bahamuts.
P.S would you ever ... EVER ... challenge yourself to beat a minimum battles FF7 run using KOTR for every battle? Purely just to see the final game time
The missable Ramuh was the bane of my blind play-through.
Always pick up SHINY.
For the amount of time taken to make this video I had to comment! This was amazing and very entertaining! I've always loved ff7 it was my 2nd rpg ever played next to legend of legaia. Keep up the amazing work!!
On lost number, I believe he doesn't split if he happens to be paralyzed/stopped when you hit the split threshold. I've definitely had him split off of a summon before
i didnt keep him perma stunned though so the split should happen once it wears off no?
@@Primalliquid92 depends on how it's flagged in the code. If it's a one time trigger, it might be completely bypassed if he's stunned at the wrong time, and knowing some of the other FF7 glitches....
It is just a guess though
@@omniunown @Primalliquid92 It's not a 1-time trigger. It's more similar to a counterattack. If every hit you do stuns the boss or occurs while the boss is already stunned, it will never change forms since it can't respond to your move. The LLNIIENACMO Challenge shows a great example of how this can be deliberately weaponized to prevent it from ever changing form.
On the Lost Number fight, the reason he didn't transform is that Choco/Mog was stunning him. You probably used up all your other summons before knocking him down to the HP threshold for the transformation. I believe it is coded as a counter, and since stun causes counterattacks to be skipped, he never got a chance to do it. Saw Death_unites_us do this to beat Lost Number in a challenge Mod.
Ok so the story behind motor ball. It’s not that he is weak to wind or anything, the way the game got coded, since it was also so buggy, means that specific encounter, and all back attack encounters are coded in wrong. It swaps out the character and enemy positions, so instead of you getting a true back attack, it’s gives you the boosts of preemptive attacks but attacking last, having your team in the back row makes it read as you are in the front row, taking more damage, where if you were initially in front row, it would lead to less damage. With preemptive attacks on your part, you actually do less damage to the enemy and they can do more to you, you just get the attack first. So what happened with motor ball is that you do 1.5-2x damage and since you were back rowed before, you are front row now.
The final battle is essentially grabbing a huge bag of popcorn and watching a space dragon beat up a crazed mutant half-alien for an hour. Best movie ever.
Hats off again to another great challenge! You must have more hours in these games than the developers!
haha probably not at that point just yet
I almost spit my tea out when i saw the small text of:
He never had one to begin with.
😂😂😂
Keep up the good work everyone!
7:40 Technically, Wutai IS possible, if you have enough Summon materia. Yuffie only takes so many materia, and if you have more than that, you get to keep it for the quest.
Challenge video idea.
When FfX came out it was all the rage. I think I got bored during the walkthrough portions of the game and suspect I button mashed my way through the grid tutorials. Subsequently I didn't interact with the sphere grid until around Zanarkin when I couldn't beat a boss or something like that.
I asked my friend for help, and he both laughed and was impressed I had made it that far with zero sphere grid inputs.
I'm not sure how to implement this into a challenge, but it has rattled around my head as just that.
Zero sphere grid has been done but its really really really boring
My favorite game. I put this video on my "watch later" list for less than half a second and stopped doing what I was doing to watch it right away
Hey man, hope you're doing well. Just curious, is your platinum FF5PR walkthrough going to be anytime soon? I'm all caught up and don't want to buy it until you start so I can follow. Your guides helped me a lot, much appreciation of you. You seem like a good man, and your guides help. That said, you earned my subscription.
18:41 That's just the party playing the challenge by the same rules you are.
"No items, no magic. Sorry Aerith"
I'd love to see a FF7R and/or FFT challenge run
You should have a play around with yuffie warping, you can do some really cool stuff like skip over Aerith's death and grab all of the TotA loot, no mods required but it only works on the pc version. You can even use it to access the debug room which is next level confusing but great fun to play around in and see what happens.
Also, why arent you using mods to make it look beautiful? It's the remake I've always wanted 😅
Love your work dude, thanks for the content 🤙
Oh yeah, about Lost number, a strategy I always try is using Cross-Slash or Choco/Mog to stop it from the split. It works somehow, I dont know the mechanics
You'll be hearing that beebing sorta sound at the beginning of the Bahamat Zero animation in your head for weeks 😂
I'm pretty sure that during the wutai part yuffie does only steal a set amount of materias. You could duplicate enough of them to overcome the limit 😉
Every time I see the title "Can you blank using blank..." I immediately say "no." There are almost IMMEDIATELY some caveats. I still appreciate the effort.
How about FFX-2, but only using Mascot? It is technically accessible the moment you gain access to the Airship and should provide an interesting challenge since a lot of what makes them good are locked behind unlocking skills in other classes, and thus would be locked in a Mascot only run.
I think you can use odin to catch a chocobo as it should miss. But I cant remember if that actually makes it run away still or if it works. Odin wont ever hit the chocobo. If this were true KOTR mastered to help make master summon then equip hp absorb and mp absorb to master summon and any kotr allows you to spam win with it as the damage output will heal you fully.
Prima - I figure I'll try Lost number out...
Me - lol, yeah right
Lost number doesn't split
Me - 🤯
I do love these challenges - I’m sure this would be cake and super easy but I wonder if you could beat the game using only Enemy Skills
I bet with Trine, Beta, & Aqualung it would be quite easy, so not much challenge
You probably could, if the materia you smuggle has all the enemy skills. Between Laser and Matra Magic, you'll probably kill most things quite simply.
According to some research I've done real quick, taken from the internet so it may not be perfect: You can do Wutai.
What I do know is: Yuffie only steals a certain amount of Materia (I'm seeing 48 come up a few places), and there's a priority list.
Comparing a list I found (But cannot confirm the veracity of) to a list of materia shops: Fort Condor sells Throw or Deathblow once Meteor begins falling, either of which are above Odin, Titan, Ramuh, Ifrit, Shiva, and Chocobo Mog (Also Leviathan but you can't have that before Wutai).
So buy about 40 of those (Considering you'll already have a few of the other higher placed materias on the list by then) and you should be able to keep a good number of the lower end summons.
Edit: And then you did it. Oh well.
Great vid as always ace.
Fantastic effort!!!
You mentioned before Air Buster that you didn't use your 2nd Choco/Mog Materia because you wanted to give it to Aerith.
Are you not aware of the Arrange -> Exchange Materia menu? It let's you take Materia off of party members not present at the time. Super useful.
As for a new challenge idea, I'd love to watch you try out the Scavenger mod that me and 4-8 productions made.
And if it sounds too easy, do it without shopping. It also teaches you a lot of things due to its unique nature
yea i just completely forgot about the exchange bit given i normally dont really need to ever swap gear or materia in my usual runs and i might check the scavenger mod out on stream some time
"Oh wait, wrong game. I forgot this is actually a full game."
Oooooh, sick burn xD
I think Lost Number doesn't split if it is paralyzed or stunned once it crosses certain HP threshold. You can do this with Cloud's Cross Slash limit, too. Materia Keeper also doesn't cure itself if it is stunned or paralyzed during its threshold crossing.
Its funny how your love for the summon animation is directly counter proportional to how many hours you've had to sit through them and recency of said hours.
Love to see you try the Necrosis MO challenge. Rules are magic only cant escape battles, but you can only heal at mandatory story heal points. So no inns, out of battle healing, no ethers, etc
hmm with magic only that would be pretty difficult i might look into it
@Primalliquid92 yeah its a nasty challenge dreamed up from the GameFaqs FF7 board. Pretty sure only one person is proven to have done it and it was brutal
Id have to look it up but Im sure there are more restrictionsin forgetting
could you not have been using phoenix as a full heal/ revive ever since acquiring it on condors second visit?
Would that restart the summon usage? That’s the real question here. 🤔
Id love to eventually see a "top ten hardest Final Fantasy Challenges I've done" video
Me: this will be easy with knights of the round
You: I’m not getting knights.
Me: Oh…
For the ruby fight, if you enter the fight with only 1 character alive, ie the one on 7777hp, he will put his hands in the ground allowing you to damage him, a w-summon with pheonix and hades would allow you to revive your party members and inflict status on ruby. Then w-summon hades with another summon. the limit might be his hp and you running out of summoning power or mp before he dies but if you can maybe you'll beat him.
I feel your pain for the grind though. I have a save with master materia for each character, all their stats maxed, every weapon / item available and other materia maxed multiple times to allow me to try various strategies on enemies. The grind took ages. Also was working on an FFX grind at maxing summon stats except luck and mp but I haven't been on that in a while.
Why!?
Something that may have helped reduce the grind is Cloud’s Apocalypse weapon, which in addition to being a three-slot weapon with triple growth also gives +43 magic and +16 spirit, raising magic damage dealt significantly. As far as I know, this is the only weapon to boost magic, so it makes sense that it would have been overlooked.
Cloud's Apocalypse can only be accessed with a Gold Chocobo, or after you TRULY defeat Ultimate Weapon. Trident might have been a more realistic choice because at least it's readily available through normal main quest actions. Many have pointed out, however, that gaining a Gold Chocobo IS possible after all, since Odin can cause instant death to the non-chocobo enemies but almost always misses Chocobo. I wish I had known that sooner...
Odin can 1 shot creatures in a chocobo fight and keep the chocobo alive. So the chocobo/breeding quest is fully possible.
Choco/Mog gains power the more you flee from battle. Once you hit lvl 40 in the train graveyard you should power the materia by fleeing for an hour or 2
I surprised we didn't see more Fat Chocobo with all those Coco/Mog summons. Great video thanks!
its only like a 10% chance i think for fat choco
Loving these challenge videos, keep up the great work
I feel like you could’ve used some interesting material combinations to blow by these challenge ez. Just put 1 HP-MP Materia, Final Attack + Phoenix Materia and you should have enough MP and revives for all fights.
Also, if you needed to fight ruby weapon, kill off all but one member in your party. You’d need chocobo summon for paralysis, and mime along with 6 knights of the round.
Alternatively (this is just a theory) you could have 5 mime with 5 master summon materia and and W summon with master summon. Any of these would kill ruby, but you’d have to grind heavy for it.
Another great challenge video.
Have you seen what Dansg08 has been doing lately ?
Editing a series of videos for one challenge. It is a kind of content I have been enjoying a lot lately.
It could allow you to get more content from a challenge that took hundred of hours.
Anyway keep up the grindy work 😊
I'm far too old to think naming Tifa "Boobs" is funny, but it's really cracking me up.
Thank you for your efforts on this one. That was a lot of grind for the sake of entertainment and it does not go unnoticed. Legend.
What’s the background music that you use? It’s mega catchy
Funny enough, I never did all the chocobo breeding and found a strat with Ruby that worked surprisingly well to get that chocobo
so off the top of my head, the glitch requires 2 saves and on a version such as steam where the game uses different types of save states. This doesnt work on ps1.
First save you must have more party members available such as phs showing 5 characters over the 3 you have in sector 7. Go into the materia menu and select customize to see all members who have materia equipped. Go to the last member of the team and only in the weapon slot you can place the first 2 materia you want to duplicate make sure you exit the screen without moving the curser so its still technically on the last member of the team list. Get into a battle and get a game over. this allows you to store some data without exiting the game which will wipe any leftover data.
Next instead of pulling up the same game bring up a different save where you have less party members. load up and go to the materia section and go to customize, if it worked you should still be on the previous last party member slot(which will look blank) you previously had and you can see the two materia you brought over and have them on this save.
This doesnt effect the previous game and only works on PC and later as data is stored differently and isnt wiped until you exit the game fully. This is off the top of my head and may have missed a step but this is the basic idea. I played a game with a mostly full enemy skill materia once and was super fun to play though
IWell, at least this matches FF7 Remake having summons in Midgar.
WELP, you made me want to see for myself if Lost Number really ignores summons for triggering his transformation...
I never knew for the longest time you could fight battles in the Black materia hieroglyph mural room.
Selling all the mastered Alls to buy shitload of Alls made me lol. Oh that Yuffie.
LOL at glitching the airship landing to get to the Quadra Magic cave... I wouldn't have minded if you got Knights of the Round at least for Sephiroth, but I understand. Knights is just too good.
I have considered a run of Barrett Ungermax only.
you know, it absolutely would have violated the spirit of the challenge, but with the "any materia is fine" rule, you could have abused counterattack and command counter to do damage without using battle commands...you know, actually, that could be a fun challenge in itself! NO commands issued in battle, ANY materia combo allowed.
I love how you said midgar is just a tuturial
Did you use the Black Chocobo save editor to do this?
I thought you say Motor Boat instead of Motor Ball... Imma call it that from now on.
I’d love to see a “can you solo ff9 with traumatized dagger” challenge. Anything in her toolkit + items and abilities, just using her crappy disc 3 version that sometimes can’t concentrate. Idk if such a mod exists though.
You can actually take materia into wutai. She only steals a set amount of materia (can't recall how many exactly). Then the surplus remains in the inventory
Pheonix and that last hit materia i think its called that can get all your people returned works well too
Schizo isnt weak to holy. Bahamuts base summon power is 65, and Alexanders is 120.
Actually if you gather up enough materia yuffie only takes a certain amount and you met get left with some Summons. also I know it might be implied but you did not say no glitches so you can smuggle materia into wutai. If you dont know how 4-8 productions does show this glitch in one of his videos
I used bahamut zero quadramagic spam to kill ruby weapon back in the day. It took... a very long time.
Just commenting at the beginning of the video that you don't need to best ruby weapon for KotR. You can beat it or Emerald for it. Either one works. I always beat Emerald first because Ruby is virtually immune to physical atracks. Going Emerald first you can mime Omnislash, get the master summon materia, then use Hades followed by KotR repeatedly
I'm kind of surprised you didn’t smuggle a second summon with the glitch. Or could you? Is the limit the NPC's 1 armour slot? If so, crap.
Choco Mog is probably a good play, but i wonder at the merit of smuggling Ramuh instead, since most enemies in Midgar are weak to lightning. Is it castable?
I see your supernova, and raise you 75 bahamut zeros.
Sephiroth "how dare you!"
it was only apt to do so in the face of a galaxy destroying attack
Can you beat FF7 with only Enemy Skill Materia?
Rules:
1. Get to 7th Heaven. You Smuggle in an Enemy Skill Materia with Matra Magic on it into the game. Begin run here.
2. Only Enemy Skills allowed.
3. No items allowed in battle.
hmmm
@@Primalliquid92😎
18:38 i think the dev team talked about this.
Life Magic and Phoenix Downs can only heal unconsciousness and not terrible wounds.
She was stabbed through the heart so she can’t be revived.
Can you try final fantasy 5 with no jobs. Love the videos man
What about the very last attack when you have to use omnislash?
This was dumb. I love it.
xD glad you enjoy my stupidity
You're nuts. I could never.
The last jenova fight isn’t hard because it’s the difficulty setting for the final fight. It’s just to gage how strong you are.
Yuffie can only steal a max of 48 materia. So you could in theory have enough materia for her to steal while still keeping some summons
I haven't even started the video yet, and it's been a while since I played the original FF7... aren't summons unskippable cutscenes? I remember waiting for hours while Knights of the Round finished back in the day haha.
correct you cant skip the animations
Have you done a E-skill run? I would say Manipulate is allowed just to teach the skills.
I wish you could summon my dad. He went out 19 years ago and I think he's lost.
buying milk is a hard job
Like for the silliness, Comment for Daph.
YES I HAVE BEEN WAITING FOR SOMEONE TO DO THIS
and now you have it!
@@Primalliquid92 You asked what challenge you should do next? FF5 with only Red Mages!
This game never stop to surprise and being the best game ever,AMAZING!!!
well.. since you allow to equip every materia for its special effect as you said... counter/magic counter ... which makes it possible to catch chocobos (by being attackt by the surrounding enemies first, before the chocobo flees ). which then again makes breading possible.
is it a stupid rng thing to do? yes. is it worse then what you grinded? no :)
that wouldnt work because counter would just use the summon which hits everything on the field
This was fun to watch!
Does anyone know the name of the background music? I have been trying to find it for a while now but to no avail. I would appreciate it, thank you in advance.
You're not alone - Final fantasy 9
Oh god, level 44 in the beginning of the game. That must have been painful.
Crazy 😊, you watched some hours of summon cinematics for sure 😅
I thought you were going to name Barret "Daddy" which to be fair, would not be wrong lol
Maybe u already talk about that, but u gonna make a FF 5 PR 100%?
not until the new year
any reason you didnt use mimic to copy summoning of the last player?
I think prime likes making Daph mad at him lol
its fun yes
@@Primalliquid92 if you ever put our a hoodie/shirt of daph and you bickering id buy it up in a flash.
hmmm
@@Primalliquid92 you did make Daph watch as you had to beat her dragon friends on the ffx run like six times lol you have a good reason to bicker on a shirt lol! Youre awesome though prime and I love my only flans hoodie.