Can You Beat Final Fantasy 7 With Only Limits?
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- Опубліковано 10 чер 2024
- #canyoubeat #finalfantasy #finalfantasy7
I wonder if this will be the longest video I ever make, but who knows. Thank goodness it's finished though, thank you for watching, especially if you make it to the end.
Thank you to @4-8Productions for answering my questions and providing me with some footage.
Thank you to TenDividedBySix for the Cloud art on the thumbnail, their work can be found here ➤ / tendividedbysix
Thank you to Romania-chan for allowing me to use the Aerith walk cycle you made, their work can be found here ➤ / romania-chan-100063092...
00:00 - Intro
1:02 - Rules
1:47 - Run starts
4:45 - Guard Scorpion attempt 1
6:20 - Start again
8:30 - Guard Scorpion attemp 2
11:37 - Escaping Reactor
12:27 - Limit Grind 1
14:52 - Air Buster
15:36 - Sector 6
16:56 - Wall Market
18:47 - Aps
20:17 - Sewers/Train Graveyard
21:30 - Reno
22:58 - Shinra HQ 1
24:37 - Sample H0512
25:42 - Shinra HQ 2
26:02 - Hundred Gunner
26:53 - Heli Gunner
27:44 - Rufus
28:20 - Motorbike
29:26 - Motor Ball
31:03 - Escape Midgar
32:20 - Zolom Skip
32:46 - Yuffie
33:07 - Limit Grind 2
34:07 - Bottomswell
35:44 - Junon
37:04 - Jenova Birth
37:56 - Costa Del Sol
38:52 - Gold Saucer
39:16 - Dyne
39:50 - Reno & Rude
41:03 - Cosmo Canyon
42:51 - Gi Nattak
44:55 - Lost Number
47:21 - Nibelheim
47:53 - Materia Keeper
51:28 - Rocket Town
51:58 - Palmer
53:10: Wutai
54:19 - Rapps attempt 1
55:08 - Rapps attempt 2
56:00 - Hidden Cave
57:45 - Temple of the Ancients
59:55 - Red Dragon
1:02:18 - Demon Wall attempt 1
1:03:18 - Demon Wall attempt 2
1:04:43 - Limit Grind 3
1:05:07 - Demon Wall attempt 3
1:06:40 - Forgotton City
1:07:03 - Jenova Life
1:08:27 - Snow Field
1:10:03 - Schizo attempt 1
1:13:05 - Schizo attempt 2
1:17:11 - Jenova Death
1:18:10 - Escape Junon/Mideel
1:20:46 - Train
1:23:05 - Fort Condor
1:24:01 - Underwater Reactor
1:24:24 - Carry Armour attempt 1
1:24:51 - HP Plus Materia
1:27:54 - Carry Armour attempt 2
1:29:56 - Submarine
1:30:45 - Wutai/Gelnika
1:30:57 - Reno & Rude
1:32:40 - Wutai side quest
1:33:43 - Godo
1:34:55 - Rude
1:35:31 - Midgar Zolom
1:35:39 - Diamond Weapon
1:37:06 - Ultimate Weapon
1:39:25 - Ancient Forest
1:41:06 - Raid on Midgar
1:42:39 - Reno, Rude & Elena
1:43:51 - Proud Clod
1:45:29 - Hojo
1:48:48 - Item Dupe Glitch
1:49:45 - Limit Grind 4
1:50:44 - Northern Crater
1:51:08 - Crater Item Dupe Glitch
1:52:12 - AP Grind
1:54:43 - Contain Materia
1:57:39 - Jenova Synthesis
2:02:06 - Bizzarro Sephiroth
2:06:28 - Safer Sephiroth
2:10:11 - Sephiroth
2:10:40 - Green Chocobo Manip
2:14:39 - Mime Materia
2:14:58 - AP Grind for Counter+Mime
2:15:41 - Counter+Mime demo
2:17:00 - Omnislash
2:21:16 - Emerald Weapon
2:23:24 - Ruby Weapon attempt 1
2:26:06 - Ruby Weapon attempt 2
2:30:21 - Revenge on Guard Scorpion
2:34:28 - Outro
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If you were wondering what I've been working on between other Videos and Live Streams since July last year, now you know. I was never expecting this to be over 2 and a half hours, but here we are. Thank you very much for watching this movie length video, especially if you made it to the twist ending 😁
I'm waiting with baited breath for a ff6 challenge run (maybe desperation attacks only?)
Though it has no relevance to this challenge and I'm assuming you either didn't know or didn't explain it properly but just in case you don't have to learn the second attack for any limit level to gain the next level, you only need to get kills. As I said it has no bearing in this challenge but it might be interesting to know.
Yeah, I did know that. I've been watching 4-8 Productions for years now. It's an interesting fact though
Great video, I can't believe you consistently used the wrong names for the characters through all 2.5 hours. I definitely would've had a few accidental "Cloud" slip-ups myself lol
Thank you, I said "Cloud" a couple times though 😅
i'm gonna point it out because i know a disproportionate amount of effort went into editing it- the live count for the HP is chef's kiss
You know you’ve played too much FF when I read “chef’s knife” and had to reread it several times to get what you meant
@@lisi79 I did the same thing lol.
This might be one of the few cases where overleveling is avoided not because it makes the challenge too easy, but because it makes it harder.
Very bizarre, that
Coincidentally, Final Fantasy 8 is also like that
Typically it's enemies scaling to your level that might cause you to avoid that
@@gigajake668ff8 leveling makes the game easier access to higher tier magic is free idk why people say such stupid things like if i am level 100 i can draw all op magic
getting + 100 to all relevant stats max out hp the magic you get is way stronger then enemy levels way stronger you can oneshot every enemy in ff8 no abuse
@@TrueLight-zr8ou they meant the ff8 video this channel did previously was harder if you were higher level.
Fun fact: due to a minor bug, those two initial potions can actually be picked up from the same guard - you don't actually have to check them both. Just "talk" to the first guard twice to get both potions.
True fact
there is always something to learn from that game. Thanks
Forget the Aeris/Aerith debate. She will forever be Airlift to me now.
She's the one piloting the airship and any time she goes and picks someone up she just says 'Hey! Y'all need a lift?!"
Also has at least three mastered Aero materia equipped at a time. More if she can afford it.
An old mgaming magazine had a section about FF7. Cloud was Claud, Barret was Bullet and Aerith was Ealis. I'm in the Ealis gang
For me its oops
@@Siinory It was GameFan.
Airlisp
Hey! So glad i was able to help and teach you about the wrong warp, it is such a cool exploit that more people should see! Congrats on finally finishing this challenge! 👍
Thanks again, it was great talking to you :)
2 legends
hey, nice to see more collabs between, unique creators. big fan of both your channels
4-8 productions has been doing 7 content since I was a senior in high school. Decades fly by 🍾
Cool crossover
12:16 Cloud? Don't know 'em.
I only know Clood.
It's CLOODIN' TIME!
Clood I'm casting my [[BIG SHOT]]!
Clood sounds like a Dutch knock-off version of Cloud.
@@Astatine95It probably is
Don't you mean clod?
A 2 hour and 40 minutes video of a challenge run on a game I have not played?
About to have the best meal of my life
Play it. Best game of all time
You haven’t played ff7… do you even game!?
And now the characters are Clood and Bort to you forever.
Absolutely you must play it, it's probably the best PS1 game ever made and probably the most clever use of a battle system for it's time. So much fun and the story is great.
To this day, easily in the top 5 RPGs of all time
I'd argue Vincent's transformation limit should count as legal under the same reasoning Party-Sephiroth isn't a rulebreak; you're not controlling them. Very fun run to watch either way.
I would say it's allowed too.
But it also makes things harder if his limit can potentially heal something... or hit it at the wrong time like the Materia Keeper fight...
I saw you trying killing that first boss for days, months ago and I was like this won't be possible.
What a pleasant surprise, let's see NG+ cook.
2:10:20 - Really neat touch at the end there of having Sephiroth and Jeova’s names glitching between each other at the top left! Amazing video in general, I love challenge runs like this!
It also happened at the start when he listed the goal, but is there a reason for it? if it's something rebirth related I guess don't tell me since I don't own a PS5 so I gotta wait for rebirth steam release.
@@arumea5418 Do you mind original game spoilers?
@@arumea5418if you dont know then you definitely dont want spoilers, its a pretty big plot point and you would 100% remember it if you knew. Its an exciting twist though so definitely look forward to it!
When you got to the end of the game I was like "But wait, what about that backup save from earlier???"
And I was NOT disappointed about how it gets used, what a cool glitch!
This was seriously the coolest, most impressive run of ffvii I have ever seen. My partner and I keep talking about it. My mind is blown by all of the work that went into it. Congrats!
Thank you very much, I appreciate that 😊
Fun fact: the limit system *technically* started in FF6, though it was never referred to as a limit break
Yeah, I saw it happen once and assumed I dreamed it until the Internet became a thing.
Can go am entire playthrough and never see one lol
Not sure Desperation Attacks can really be called limits, considering the way they work is fundamentally different. Definitely a nice touch regardless though.
They work very differently to FF7's, but rather similar to FF8's apart from the fact that you only get the limit confirmed after committing to an attack. So I do think they should count, albeit they are extremely rare to actually experience.
Encounter rate is difficult to explain, but the short version is there's a hidden value the game tracks that goes up as you perform actions and is reset when you get an encounter.
The goes up every 8 steps by a set value regardless of if you're walking or running. BUT when the game checks if an encounter should happen it multiplies the danger by 4 if run is held down.
This means that walking gives lower encounter rates, but there's literally no reason not to run for the first second or two after each encounter and cut scene(which also resets the counter with a few exceptions).
I remember accidentally getting slots insta-kill on emerald weapon. I didn't know it could even do that, I just had Cait in the party because I liked him, not because his stats were good. I didn't even have his ultimate weapon bc I forgot it in the shinra building
The HP counters were such incredible additions, thank you very much for whoever went through the effort to edit those in.
Thank you, that would be me. I did wonder if I would regret starting those HP counters 😅
@@NGPlusVideos well for what it’s worth they were worth your while, even if they were to much to consider doing again lol
@@NGPlusVideos will you more hp counters to other challenges?
Well the next FF game on the horizon for me is FFX. I will look into adding them, but we'll see. Unless I just use Sensor of course (assuming my chosen challenge run allows Sensor).
I’m a big fan of challenge videos, and now that I’ve finished this one it has to be one of my favorites. Your explanations and storytelling are top-notch, and the HP counters were an excellent addition, really helped keep up with the action. I’m sure it was a lot of work, but I appreciate the high-quality content, GG!
Wanted to wait until I'd finished watching the video with my partner to comment but I'm not embarassed to say these streams were a big part of my weekends when they were current. Seeing the video do so well so quickly is awesome. I hope it and your channel continues to grow, you deserve it.
Thanks a lot for all the support 🎉
Very impressed by the amount of effort that went into making this!
Unrelated, but it is kind of funny that the entire part1 of FF7Remake ends at 31mins, puts it into perspective
I spent the first 30 minutes of this wishing it was a 10 minute video.
Then watched the whole thing and now I'm eternally glad it wasn't a 10 minute video.
Great piece of longform ff7 content. Keep up the great work!
Aw yeah, I've been main-lining FF7 Rebirth for the past few days, this is the perfect time to watch FF7 content
This is probably the only live stream I have ever watched as well as the vod after. Was there with the struggles of Carry Armour and Schizo. Nate going on the submarine after finally beating Carry Armour then dying to the grunts without saving! Keep up the great content!
I’d never seen the ancient forest after beating Ultima Weapon. Good gravy, nearly thirty years old and I still hadn’t seen everything this game has to offer. Amazing
"I will never be a memory" nice touch 😉
I remember being in chat on stream for about 6 hours trying to get past Guard Scorpion, a night well spent!
Will be watching over the next few days!
I was there theorycrafting for hours until we finally prevailed !
The viewer of this video probably don't realize the amount of attempts and strats that were tried to land a successful run....
@@1lomi901 it very much set the tone for the run when the solution after hours of attempts was that Clouds randomly generated stats weren't high enough!
Renaming Red 13 to "Rod 34"..... I don't know if I should be impressed or scared...
At least it wasn't Rule 34...
This has to be the most unique and entertaining FF7 playthrough challenge I've seen. Amazing that this game just keeps on giving after all these years!
Having seen 4-8 video on materia swap from between files I was seeing where you were going with that final twist. This is an insanely well researched video and I was glued to the screen for the whole duration.
Hats off to you, sir
I absolutely love the HP overlay on each of the major boss fights, by the way. Makes the footage actually very engaging to watch- I love thoroughly narrated challenge runs, a LOT, and that's partially for the fact that if you're familiar with the game you can kinda just listen to them and still get the full experience, but the footage being additionally fun to watch is a nice bonus!
Easily my favorite channel on youtube right now. The work you guys put in is incredible. As another comment said, showing the HP was extremely nice, and your explanations are clear and concise.
Absolutely amazing work. Looking forward to many more
I don't leave comments and likes too often (partially an unnecessary stigma and partially because mobile youtube breaks when doing so FOR SOME REASON), but it would be criminal to *not* do so here. The amount of work and required dedication for such is astonishing. Even the editing and scripting required for such a monster of a video is staggering.
When ever I leave a comment on UA-cam using the phone app the keyboard gets stuck to my screen, or will even shift my entire screen above where the keyboard ends. Even if I switch apps. I have to restart my phone every time
"Airlift" makes me smile each time I think about it.
Tofu too lmao
NG+ glitch is crazy to see lol, thank you for your work and sharing all of this
I would consider Vincent's limits fair game since the action names use the Limit Break banner, not the normal attack banner.
And on that note I consider Steal also fair to use since not only does it not do damage, but you don't use items in battle anyway, meaning it has no real impact outside of saving time outside of battle
Ah yes, our main protagonist Clood from Birmingham, how can i forget....
Great videos, i like even tho the beginning is impossible, you still continue the challenge
7:55 drops you to 3 HP from a max of 314,
8:02 you're back to 10 HP with a max of 318
Why did you need to reset that run? :(
Or just including that battle almost killing you for the drama? :)
Either way, well done. That's a lot of dedication to go through the intro so much to get a run going on this challenge!
Engrossing. Loved every second of it. Heck, I was on the edge of my seat during the Ruby fight. This might be my favorite of your videos. Congrats on this insanity.
'It's actually bad that we take no damage from this attack' is such a funny problem to have
The only FF with a better limit system than 7 is 10 - mostly because it’s basically the same system with some extra depth added.
I don't have as much experience with FF7 as I do 8, so I can't make a prediction for which limits would be useful this time as I did with the no junctioning challenge. That being said, this was still absolutely worth watching, it was a marathon of a challenge that involved a lot of inventive strategies and unconventional thinking. It's also amusing to see bosses that play roughly the same or almost easier with these restrictions than how they'd be encountered normally. The fight against Ruby Weapon at the end is the type of nonsense I love seeing in challenge runs.
That ending was WILD! How does anyone ever find stuff like that out?
Isn't it marvellous? There's a really good video on it over at 4-8 productions.
'Bort' is such a silly name, I love it. One of my favorite names I've seen another player with in FF14.
IM AT MY LIMIT
- cloud strife, 2001
Glad to know I’m not the only person who named Cloud a weird variant of his name. “Clod Streef” was mine
🤣
Nah nah, Clood Strafe
Protip: technically those 2 starting guards can BOTH drop potions. Very low chance tho
This is by far the best video on this channel. Keep up the good work !
This is the perfect way to refresh myself on the OG after finishing Rebirth. What a run!
Absolutely fantastic video I can't imagine how much time this took. It would have been an amazing anyway but you took the extra step and went for the super bosses anyway. The devotion to the challenge is beyond impressive.
I had flashbacks seeing Carry Armor appear. Those streams were purgatory but so satisfyingwhen you eventually pulled through
I'm a FFXIV player without having played ff 7 (or really any other final fantasy game tbh) and watching this has let me see so many things in XIV that came from here! Who knew "finishing touch" was a crafting ability as well as a level 3 limit.
It's done! I remember tuning into the stream when y'all were still fighting Guard Scorpion, happy to see things paid off.
Yessssss! I was looking for this challenge run to get finished. Best part of my week. Thank you NGplus+ !
Man, what a great video! Instantly subscribed.
It just got me confused a few times when you said Cid instead of Sod, who the hell is Cid?
What a fun ride! Thank you so much for the video. I don't think I have draw into a video this hard for a very long time!
God, this is so cool. Routing and learning about people routing challenges like this is so much fucking fun.
Pure excellence as always, I liked this one especially because it felt a lot more like genuinely pure mastery of the game, rather than "we need to walk exactly between 3000 and 3082 steps, but only if the system clock indicates July, and it's a leap year", which admittedly is also funny but this genuinely felt like something theoretically a casual person could do, admittedly with a lot of patience. Great work!
I like how detailed this video is. Most of the FF7 challenge videos I've seen feel rushed by comparison. This one gets deep into the nuts and bolts. I feel like if I studied the video I could get through this challenge (with a little work and a lot of luck or vice versa).
Thanks, that's the goal, so feels good to know it worked
This is a mind boggling challenge with the WEAPONs included, and my respect and admiration are now yours. This was an amazing effort you made, and it's success made me feel so much excitement, as if i did it myself. Such a great job, my man.
Another fantastic video mate, I really enjoyed NG Plus: The Movie! I'm not sure whether it counts or not considering you had to use items for the first battle, but even if it doesn't, it's really impressive. Kudos man
That ruby weapon fight was absolute madness
I think this is one of the best long form videos I've watched on here in years, incredible work mate! The little additions like updating the boss HP with every hit must have taken ages and showcasing the glitch at the end, everything's so well considered and planned out. Liked and commenting to help the algorithm do it's thing as this deserves to blow up!
Thank you, it really did take ages, and I had to triple check it was all correct too 😅
Long form? *Checks how long the video is* Damn, that felt so much quicker than it really was.
Fully expected this to be a "can only damage enemies using limits" run while allowing materia and items for all other purposes. The dedication to use next to nothing besides limits in combat is wild but made the challenge far more interesting. Impressively done
Watching Red parachute into Midgar never stops being funny to me.
This is by far my favorite challenge run I've seen of FF7. Both the video and the strategies were great to watch
I love watching challenge run videos for games, but for some reason I can't usually get into them for JRPGs. This video, however, was one of the best I've ever seen for any game! I loved the editing with the HP values and explanations of glitches like W-Item throughout the run, which kept things interesting and engaging. Maybe it helps that FF7 was my first and probably my favorite of the series. Great work overall.
for me this challenge would be actual hell genuine purgatory that i would never be able to escape
This was so interesting. I’ve never played the original ff7 and I’d certainly never play a game like this 😂 but you did a great job narrating it and it was super engaging to follow.
Can't really say why but calling Tifa "Tofu" made me smile.
I’ll be glued to the screen of the full 2 1/2 hours, love your content
I am so ready for NGPlus the feature length film!
Believe it or not, watched the entire video, and enjoyed every second of it. incredibly interesting and job well done.
Great vid! Always boggled but very impressed by all of the planning and crazy stuff you have to do to make these challenge runs work
Having been a long time fan of 4-8 Productions I had a feeling I knew most of your strategies going in, and I was correct. You still surprised me a couple of times but on the whole I predicted what you'd do. But that didn't make it any less fun or satisfying to see you succeed over and over and manage to do everything. Well done. Well done indeed.
Also, Airlift was easily the funniest of the names, and had me cackling.
Perfect video to come out when I'm home sick from work; your timing is flawless.
Amazing challenge! FF7 is my all time fav game and it was awesome to learn more about the enemy AI during this run. Schizo + Lost Number are always a pleasure to fight (given you could fight them or 'play' them)
Looking forward to more of these vids!
P.S is it possible to beat the game using only Vincent limit breaks? I assume you'll need to over level him and equip him to the max, but the fights themselves would be torture, and agonizingly long. Curious anyways
An epic video for an epic journey - was great to relive it so succinctly, and well worth it. Nicely done!
Thank you, well worth all the effort that went in to it!
Been seeing the stream notifications for so long, and every time I got excited for when iit''d be a video. Props to you, dude, this is genuinely amazing levels of dedication.
I can already feel that this will be another epic show of tenacity and strategy. And 2h36m! That's awesome. Your videos inspire me to be tenacious in my own work as well. There is quite an overlap between what I do and these videos, in the sense that it requires a great deal of tenacity, persistency, development of strategies, optimizations and lots of trial and error. Thank you so much for your work!
SO glad you decided to take on another classic FF challenge =D Watching you do the Scorpion boss live was so much fun - and so exciting when you finally pulled it off! Thanks for the great entertainment =)
It's amazing how good you understand all the game machanics! :D
What an absolute triumph. You, sir, are a madman, but in the best possible way.
This is the best challenge run for any game I've ever seen, appreciate the huge effort you put into this.
The mental fortitude required to complete this challenge is commendable, most would've given up by the time schizo rolled around
On the Lost Number battle, it never transformed because the transformation cannot happen if it is paralyzed by the hit. It would then counter by transforming on the next hit after, but since you only damaged with Cross-Slash, it was never unparalyzed right after receiving damage.
Thank you, so I accidentally used the perfect strategy 😅
I actually learned a surprising amount of FF7 Trivia I was not expecting to learn from this video lol. AMAZING work! You havr some incredible willpower to pull runs like this!
I fell in love with Ff7 Over this video, but you can bet he's Clood forever now
Thanks for this short version and the work you put to make it ❤ sadly didn't had the time for all live streams
What a journey this video is. Great work as always and i assume the most time consuming. Watched a few streams while you preparing this but the final result? Brilliant! Keep going this great work.
yess another video to watch over and over ❤ i think i've watched your "ff8 no junction" video at least 10 times
I was so sad I missed the later livestreams of this. Getting past Demon Wall was brutal.
the way i always did it as a kid was meteor rain, i would always farm for it before or in the temple so not far from what he did but with a lower level limit
@bigstopowens Yeah but on a Limit Only run, he would have had to farm hundreds of enemies to get it.
My man, this might be the best FF7 video I've ever seen. The run itself was really cool, the editing is on point and your commentary was both informative and entertaining. Stellar work, subbed.
The workaround at the end was incredible! Great video!
Gotta love it when the video timeline looks like a barcode with all the chapter markers
The sheer amount of effort going into this video is amazing! Really enjoyed it!
watching this just reminded me how good the item, equipment, limit breaks, leveling, materia, and battle systems are in this game. I should really do another playthrough. its been like 15 years
this was a lot more entertaining than I thought it'd be, the hp totals being shown is a nice touch, great video c:
Finally finished took me two nights to watch it! It was great seeing this run Live too! Amazing just amazing!!! Well done 😊
God watching these streams from the start was a treat. Can't believe the mad lad did it.
I listened to this while I was at work and am thoroughly impressed that your videos (I've now listed to the FF8, FF9, Spyro and MGS challenges) and you have a way with making content that is easy to digest while not watching the screen and not be obnoxious with your script writing/editing. Listening to a couple other unrelated FF7 challenges after this one that made me cringe halfway through, and I appreciate your vids a lot. You earned a sub, cheers!