This video is from 2019, but for people that land here now (and what I say below will not be current in 2022, lol), just wanted to mention a few things that are not so anymore (most in favor of Clip Studio, I mostly use it now, although I am a trained professional with Photoshop). My main point is that both softwares are great, but for illustration, painting and comic, Clip Studio is making more and more sense as time goes by, and not just because of the PS's subscription model : - About performance (besides that Photoshop can run a bit slow in more humble machines, and it is a memory - RAM and disk- hog), with the many layers example, maybe you might have not had the bar progress dialog (when hitting 60+ layers) if deactivated automatic saving, which is ON by default. It's surely just saving constantly (and this is not great if what you have is a SSD, even if u don't see the bar, for lifespan of the SSD concerns) a large file to disk (so, depends on the speed of your disk!) while you only need that when you want to save (PS takes a LOONG time to save, even longer). Of course, Clip does this to prevent human error, but a trained artist typically can disable this in preferences, and so work more fluidly with large files. - Photoshop has, since CC 2018, if I don't remember now badly, "Smoothing" of the line (a bit confusing with other matters they already called smoothing, but hey), which works as a line stabilizer, and you can set the amount of it in the top bar, usually. It works BETTER than the external program (Lazy Nezumi) that you mentioned. But of course, Lazy nezumi provides with a lot more functionality than just line stabilizing. These days I prefer that this functionality would be built-in in the software (is a reality in most apps: Krita, Affinity Photo, Clip Studio, Photoshop, etc. But Nezumi is a great tool. - Interface: Clip Studio does now (surely not possible in 2019) allow to set the dark interface. Recent updates have improved a lot the interface, making it more modern. IMO, indeed here Clip Studio wins by far (but it will be improbable to hear it from people used to Photoshop, I know as I was one of these cases. So, mostly "better" or "more slick", in the end means for most people "more similar to Photoshop", while Photoshop's approach to an UI is not particularly ideal, far from it. Indeed, Clip is way more configurable, as an UI. I can set the tool bar to be literally whatever I want and make each tool react with different behaviors, mixing them with many tools. I can create new tools, add them to both the side and top menu tools bars drag and drop (ctrl + dragging) tools from one bard to another, etc, etc. The flexibility is immense, but a bit hidden until you deal quite with the software. Mostly, until you make an actual real project with it. Even more when it becomes your bread and butter. - Art department: Clip wins for a much more natural response of the pen with it. And a line smoothing which does not get "in the way". Its flat oil brush and the capabilities for mixing in adding paint quantity, extending color and other features make it absolutely nice for a traditional touch illustration style. Its inking tools are amazing, specially if using vector layers, allowing a more controllable and faster inking than with Photoshop. The reason why many comic artists and line art illustrators using to have to run illustrator for this task was due to features only being posible with vectors in Illustrator, while inking. Now they have it all in one in Clip. - Totally agree with the price matter. Clip is much cheaper, and most artists can choose the right time for them (ie: when they are less broke ;) ) to make a permanent license purchase. The perfect combo is purchasing as well Affinity Photo (and Affinity Designer if working a lot in graphic design and vectors), so to use it for other more image editing based tasks, as even while an illustrator can fully depend only in Clip Studio, from time to time you might need one of the features Photoshop or Affinity Photo have (also because several illustrators do occasionally graphic design work). Like clip, Affinity Photo is a permanent purchase, of the same price (at this time, dunno in 2035) of Clip Studio Paint Pro. So, you are done and set (for art and more graphic editing tasks) with 100 bucks for a bunch of years. Usually most artists will upgrade Affinity Photo every 5 years or so, though, to get new features and improvements. But they provide a ton of upgrades for free, mostly only major integer numbers need a paid version (2.0, 3.0...) and between those, seems to happen a several years of free updates, so, great deal. As you can also work with outdated Affinity apps. Serif nor Celsys lock you down in any way, like other companies do. Subscription models might sound great for getting companies as clients, but for the freelancer, not good. Specially if all the software becomes subscription based. Is not just 60 dollars monthly here, everything would add up (happily, it seems people is reacting to this strongly, so I believe that with some companies, permanent licenses are here to stay. Also because is a huge sells value, being the dominant suites subscription based). Luckily, graphic open source software is of great quality, lately (finally). Now Krita is very competent for digital painting and line art (not far from Clip Studio), Blender is an absolute wonder for 3D art, Inkscape has some lacks, but combined with Scribus and Gimp, and of course, Krita, you get a graphics making nice combo. (Besides all this, you have other photo editing tools just as powerful, like Photoline (for image edioting, not for painting), and you can get entire graphic design suites like Corel Draw (700$ permanent, or subscription), or Xara Designer Pro (a multi functional tool in one software). But personally not very fan of these. Clip Studio or Krita + Affinity Photo (serif.com ) or Photoline ( pl32.com ) do really make the job. And then for pure graphic design (in those matters not being the ground of raster- Photoshop) you have Affinity Designer. Or Inkscape + Scribus. (Until Inkscape gets some solid CMYK support, I'd be recommending Affinity Designer better). For what I do, illustration, painting and comic, Clip Studio wins, there's no real contest :). And this while I have always worked as a concept artist, in-game graphics artist, painter and more things (ie, graphic design), with Photoshop, sin its versions 2.x (the actual 2.x, not CS2 !). Meaning I am VERY comfortable drawing and painting with photoshop, but for that, Clip Studio is clearly superior.
I was an avid photoshop user for years, but the subscription payment plan was such a turn off I switched. I bought CSP on Black Friday for 25 bucks. As others have said... I’m not renting software, I want to own it.
Lawrence Scales I actually just saw the sale today and I’m considering getting it, I’ve used photoshop for years but I’m considering switching things up
@@standepain i just activated clip studio paint on a second computer today, and it worked. I bought clip studio paint in 2015 in a humble bungle for $15, and I was STILL able to activate the updated version on my new computer 5 years later. what a fantastic company!
Used both programs. I would agree with you on the perspective rulers but Lazy Nezumi is a cheap plugin that adds a lot more ruler and smoothing features than Clip. I think Clip Studio is a better option for those doing comics and line work because that's the focus of the program but for more complex and realistic paintings unfortunately Clip is still nowhere near photoshop.
@@Hyzalker yaay I feel good! I bought Lazy Nezumi yesterday and I was regretting not buying Clip as its 50 dollars and sometimes it is 25. But I tried it and couldnt use it. Some people create brilliant artworks with it (way better than mine) but I didnt like the program . I still love my Photoshop . Lazy helped with line art in photoshop
@@RJSamonte Yeah I think the author of LNP mentioned something about OS limitations on mac which makes it hard to port. I've heard some mac users talk about Hej Stylus, but I never used it so I don't know how it compares to LNP.
Same here. If you're doing any drawing or illustration, Clip blows Photoshop out of the water by miles. Photoshop is the clear winner for things like photo editing though.
i'm a concept artist and an illustrator and i use both of these softwares. in addition to maya and zbrush of course. but i do think that if i had to choose, i'd go with clip.
Thing is, photoshop is more taught to people. I learned it through school and stuff like that. For clip studio, you really need to get to know it because theres a lot of tools at your disposal. Clip studio is also more customizable and you can really make it your own. Either way paying for the software once instead of a subscription is way better. Clip studio is definitely better for art than Photoshop
I actually find clip studio paint is a lot easier to use than photoshop. I got a 2 year license with my wacom drawing tablet, so it was my first drawing programme. I tried out photoshop, too, but I found that clip studio paint was just easier to use. And clip studio paint has many tutorials on its website anyway.
@@LoneWolf-tk9em the code for the program shouod be on the box somewhere. You have to checkthe wacom website though, because my wacom comic is an older version. You would have gotten the new version, so i dontknow if theyve changed the programs it comes with or not
I think Photoshop is overcomlicated and confusing for people who just wanna DRAW and do some simple photo editing, its not even fun imo! Clipstudio on the other side is just so easy to dive in and have fun with! I tried both programs when i started and decided to not even bother with PS, because it was annoying as hell to use for me! Learned Clipstudio instead, dont regred that decision at all!
My art school is paying for Photoshop, and highly recommends it as a drawing software.. I’m graduating soon and I definitely don’t have to money to continue my subscription. CSP sounds like a good alternative, but idk
Clip also has the ability to save in .psd format also in preferences you can change to the dark configuration. Photoshop has been around a long while but surely rests on its laurels. Clip studio paint is improving all the time and soon will equal photoshop in all departments and eventually overtake unless adobe pull their finger out.
"controversial" opinion here. Apart from idiotic subsciption model - Photoshop sill is IMO the best program for concept artists. For illustrators? Sure, CSP and Sketchbook might be just as good if not better but Phothoshop wins in the conceptual art due to the fact that... well.. it has everything. ...But MY GOD I hate that subscription model...
@@Captkid1 I think some people have just gotten more used to using a particular software over the years and its workflow. Feature-wise, Clip has a lot more for concept artists compared to Photoshop, even when you include copying and pasting in images for additional texture, etc. I guess you could argue that it has a wider library and support for brushes, but even those can easily be converted and imported into Clip Studio. It actually now supports native Photoshop brush support.
Just wanna clarify something really quick: The vector layer in Clip Studio Paint does not allow you to use the gradient tool, the bucket tool or the blend tool because the Vector layer was made mainly for line art- and I don't know anyone, or have seen anyone use any of those tools in their line art before. if someone WAS to use any of those in a vector layer (for some reason) you could switch it to a regular layer by clicking on it with the right mouse button and selecting the Convert layer option (or H). So in my honest opinion, Clip Studio won the "Superpowers of each software" round. (i wrote all of this to give my opinion and to prove my point? Yes... But I hope it helps people who just got Clip Studio too
Clip Studio is an amazing program. It specializes in drawing and manga creation. Lately they added the animation stuff. Photoshop on the other hand is more of a workhorse software that can do everything imaginable. Clip Studio probably has the better drawing tools and by far the deepest customization. Photoshop is overall the more complete program.
For those who think CSP is just for drawing comics I know several artist who use it for grand illustrations. HyannaNatsue Rosuuri [she did in 2016 though that might've changed] NekoRina and others
We are no experts in the 3D option, so we just said that Photoshop seems to have more advanced 3D options but as we said in the video, we are no experts in that field.
@@CyanOrangeStudio In regards to 3D I have had this product for years (it was called Manga Studio 5 when I bought it), It has 3D models in it which I do feel personally are at least as good as those in Photoshop. Also I feel you should also look at how they react to graphics tablets as when I did use photoshop to test it my tablet just could not agree with it at all.
This may be a bit advanced, but you can save out 3D figures from DAZ Studio (free program) in FBX format and import them into Clip. There you can continue to pose them because the rigging info comes with the model. (Presumably, the same would be true with models exported from other 3D apps.) Although Clip comes with its own very serviceable 3D figures, the ones from DAZ have much more sophisticated & realistic meshes.
CSP user here, I came here to see if Photoshop was worth it because I'm really jealous of the color dodge brush (often used by Ross Draws), liquify tool, touch-up filters, and general interface design. At only $10 a month (unless I'm wrong, cause that's the price I see in the photography package) the color dodge and liquify tools alone seem worth it, even though I would very much rather not have subscription apps. I think these two programs would be delightful used together, and this video has been helpful really highlighting that to me; thank you for making it! Photoshop is definitely on my list to get now ^^
I’ve used PS professionally for 20 years. I’ve also done 3D in it’s entirely for the same time, also professionally. I recently discovered CSP and fell in love with it instantly. Only for the graphic design PS is better. Bye bye Photoshop, comparing to Clip you suck.
@@dxza6449 That shows you know nothing about working in this field. I started when Macromedia Flash was just starting to be a thing, PS was version 3.02 and web design was very rudimentary. Now I’ve been an Art Director for 6 years in a very big advertising agency, cannot get a higher position working in advertising and web design.
@@nomadicsculpt lol i've never believed people said they have used PS for blahblah years and use CSP now, especially in illustration and painting field
Clip Studio Paint is the best drawing software I've ever used. I've used plenty of other art programs in the past, Paint Tool Sai, Photoshop, Sketchbook, OpenCanvas etc, but they all pale in comparison to CSP. What I like best about Clip Studi Paint is how user friendly it is to new and more experienced artists. I've been using it for about the past several months and I really started to fall in love with it since I got my 22" XP Pen Artist 22R Pro Display Drawing Tablet. I primarily use it for manga/comic illustrations. I also find the drawing dolls very useful for illustrating the human figure since I'm not accustomed to utilizing stick figures.
Clip studio is constantly getting updated and their newest update is very visually pleasing, it's like photoshops ui but cheaper and for comic artists. Also with clip studio I've seen people still being able to do really nice art similar to concept part people do on photoshop without the lines and everything. Also if you did compare the ex version then I'd say it would have been a much more fair comparison when you have access to more tools and everything, clip studio ex no joke can go for $90 on sales and registers up to 3 devices per copy, that's cheap for a professional art software
I personally have had a better experience with clip studio for illustration. Photoshop takes more memory and processing power on my system, and has habitually crashed. Clip studio feels more straight to the point for drawing, but I would use photoshop for photo editing.
I tried Clip studio paint about 4 years ago and while i really liked drawing on it; what irked me about the program was how difficult it was to use texture on the brushes; In order to import brush texture you have to do this roundabout process of importing the texture as a library item, and there are no dedicated sliders for changing the brightness and contrast of the texture. (this last part is very necessary to adjust the grain of the texture in the brush!) I wonder if CSP improved this in any way n the 4 years of updates that followed?
It's much more different now. You can simply make or drag a texture pic in CSP and save it in your material library (register as material). From there you can use it as a texture on your brushes. Textures are customisable like PS too. There's also a built-in huge library of assets where people can share their brushes/textures/3d materials/etc. Cancelled my PS subscription after using pure CSP for 4 months. I'm 2 years in now. I do miss some features like the history screenshot thing and liquify, but I can live without those.
SO photoshop brushes really can't blend... Ive been losing my mind all week trying to get brushes to blend like in CSP. Looks like Ill be doing my homework in CSP and saying I used Photoshop
Csp needs to expand their brush engine and add liquify to its roster of features...i still prefer it over photoshop...those water color brushes are unmatched for blending as you paint...
Photoshop has liquify... but: clip studio has vector lines. this was way under sold in this video. its a very useful system. you can easily erase overlapping lines, you can edit lines using bezier curves, and you can alter line widths. clip studio has superior fill buckets for color blocking. clip studio has a perspective ruler system better than anything photoshop has. clip studio has "transparency painting" where you can reverse whatever brush you have to become an eraser, which is super useful. it has multi-layer transform. i'm not sure but others have said clip studio has better brush customization/creation. ... not to mention the comic features (i don't use them but they are there). you can easily create comic panels that mask the art inside of it. you can dynamically rearrange said panels. there is a system for speech bubbles which looks super easy. i used to use photoshop, but clip studio is the clear winner for me. i was surprised this video just called it a wash. photoshops only advantage is liquify. this video called it even because photoshop won on UI? just make clip studio darker. i don't need a frickin landing page before getting to work. what a weird point to put on a comparison chart.
Hello there! We compare each software in each category and yes, we believe Photoshop has better UI than CSP. Some might not care about that but it is a subject in our design battle. About the Vector line system not all illustrators might find that useful, it depends on what is your approach when you create and draw. For example, I, Sonya, mostly paint and do concept art stuff. Liquify is key for Concept art work, so I consider that a powerful tool. However someone that does vector illustrations might not care at all for liquify, they would go all the way with the vector layers and so. As we mentioned at the end, the decision of who wins depends on YOU, what's your focus? what do you look for in a drawing software? Still, we hope our video was useful somehow to you.
Thank you so much all the other peoples review videos and battles between clip paint studio and photoshop end up being about something completely different and this was purely perfect and about the title of it.
I like Clip Studio, but as far as i know it has one big flaw. Extending it with Plug-Ins or similar is made unnecessarily hard by only providing the SDK in Japanese. Which, quite honestly, in this day and age, boggles the mind. I believe it could be even better if they provided an Open SDK in English, with good documentation. Or maybe even additional ways to make it more extensible.
I’ll say as someone studying animation, clip studio is so much better it’s almost ridiculous. The only thing photoshop has on it is ability to scrub through audio, while clip studio has too many advantages to list. Also interestingly with the performance thing, on my not great computer I use when not in class Clip studio runs really well but photoshop would entirely crash my computer most of the times I ran it.
@@nathanhernandez7173 definitely, animate can be very difficult to deal with and has very bad brushes (and is only ector). There is actually a lot of anime animated with key frames drawn in clip studio. The only warning I’d give is that if your computer isn’t great the preview playback can lag (but you can always test things by exporting them and then they’ll be fine). I’d recommend checking out the channel striving for animation who generally use it for animating.
You can also get tons of brushes online for CSP, just go to assets,,, Also, the black interface in CSP was default for like...years???? overall it seems like you just voiced your first impression without trying to really understand :/
Well in our case when we open it un two different computers the interface was white as default. But we say u can change it to black or grey. And the brushes we know that we just compare the quantity u can find on internet. Thanks for the feedback ;) we will improve with each new video.
I never used photoshop and i cant cuz too expensive, i bought csp in may and since that day im using it i love it so muchh, i have anime ish style and there many good thing like ruler and thing, ofc im still a newbie so i dont know too much but i learned a little bit luckily for 7 months after owo, photoshop its more for photo editing i will said
I'm artist who has been drawing traditionally for a decade and i learned how to use photoshop. But moving out to digital feels like drawing from scratch, so i was wondering if you can do a professional concept art on clip art too such as realistic drawing with great shading and composition
anguiba yes you can make professional drawings on csp its better equipped for that than photoshop...but lear the brush engine you can make really nice shading blend brushes...
If you want to use clip for illustration it does lack one fundamental tool and that is boolean merge; which even Krita has. When think through a logo or border pattern i sometimes like to lay down some shapes overlap and try different merges like intersection or union to get some interesting effects building up complex shapes from overlapping simple ones. In clip you kind of have to draw it
comics ftw. it's my goal to tell stories through art. i'm hella happy clip studio has a permanent license model, so i'm more than happy to give them my money, and upgrade when i have enough.
First, a quick apology for what'll become a "wall o" text". I have both (EX version of CSP). I very rarely use my PS, mainly keeping it for those few things that it does that CSP don't do: mainly text manipulation. The differences to me between PS & CSP besides the obvious (PS more for Graphic Design, CSP more for straight up drawing/illustration) are as follows. For me PS is more malleable, which is to say that you can add stuff to it & tweak it to make it "your own" fairly easily... on paper. However, for myself that becomes a paywall quickly (on TOP of the monthly subscription) &/or time consuming. Some examples: CSP by default has page flipping/mirroring, you have to program that in for PS. The color palate/color wheel he mentions, the palette is very basic on PS, to get the one you saw here you must get it it via a 2nd party program which costs $20. The brushes to me are a jumbled mess on PS; on CSP to me they're more visually appealing in their individual groups (Pen, marker, watercolor, pencils, etc). On the layers, you can change the layers from a raster to vector layer & back again easily on CSP, you can also change the line width on raster layer drawings easily on CSP. PS arguably has more in the way of filters, but it comes with few compared to past integrations (I miss the fractal filter & the wood grain filter of old), to have an actual large set of them you must either find them (good luck) or buy them. Again this is on top of the monthly subscription, though generally speaking, a one-time payment each time. You can mimic the filters in CSP, but more often then not it'll be via a new type of brush that you'll either have to find, or make. When making a thumbnail on CSP vs PS, I notice the differences between the duo as soon as I enlarge the drawing. On CSP the drawing stays the same; on PS, the more I enlarge it the more pixelated it gets. Enlarge it enough on PS & it looks like it came straight out of the 8 bit NES. Now PS vs CSP on my PC. First my overall PCs STATS as of today. Tower Phanteks Enthoo Pro, full tower OS Windows 10 Pro 64 bit CPU AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core (32 GB RAM) CPU Cooler Noctua brand HDs 1 TB SSD for everyday 2 TB Hybrid for Origin, GoG & Misc 4 TB Hybrid for Steam GPU Radeon RX 570 PSU Corsair RMx 850w modular Monitors ASUS 27" WQHD for everyday & gaming. Wacom Cintiq 22" touch, for art. CSP is MUCH more responsive on my Wacom then PS is. Hope this helps, even if only a little bit. I'm eager to try out Corel Paint, just for the palette knife brush. EDIT: A word of warning, CSP is starting to get into the subscription based game too. So far it's limited to the tablet/mobile version of the program. I have heard you can easily transfer files from the tablet/mobile version to the PC version & back again, but have not tested that myself, I'm not made of money.
I think the best opinion would be to lead off with Clip Studio & if you get to a point where you want to go Pro, then buy Photoshop for one or two months to get familiar with the software. When your working in the industry then chose the software right for you, get your job to pay that monthly fee. personally the only limitation I found with Clip Studio is the limited tutorials online.
İ used photoshop for 4 years. Game designs. But i wanna draw manga and i bought an graphic tablet which one i should for draw manga Clip studio or photoshop ?
It is a difficult decision but it all comes down to the artist's needs....and wallet. *I use both* to this day (09/2020) and here's my general opinion: *Clip Studio* is the best for drawing and illustration, it is also specifically designed to do that. *Photoshop* has superior image and file manipulation tools and is a *must* for concept art, (also industry standard) I prefer *Clip Studio*. It was made for drawing, the brush engine is astonishing compared to the laggy brushes in Photoshop. *Photoshop* is not exactly lightweight when it comes down to requirements for a smooth drawing experience and it's getting worse with every update (Adobe is doing awful on all fronts with updates) It *will not* perform well at high resolution on less powerful machines. The 'superpowers' of *Clip Studio* are many maaany more than *Photoshop* when it comes down to drawing (again, *Photoshop* is photo editing software adapted to and can be used for drawing, *Clip Studio IS a drawing software* ) Some honorable mentions include but are not limited to: •The integrated perspective tools and rulers •The posable mannequins and 3d objects •The assets library to freely expand your tools •The endless opportunities offered by the vector lines •The integrated color picking precision tools •The unbeatable price-to-gain. come on, the whole Adobe price-to-support&stability is, to say the least, *insulting.* Photoshop has an undeniably better looking, pleasing, tidy interface, and overall cured visual design, the tools available for manipulation of the image, color, rendering, effects, and file options are the best. In conclusion, for what I do, for the computer I own, *Clip Studio* wins for me but still, I couldn't live without *Photoshop.*
If you're only doing manual draw or illustration the answer already clear but what IF you also need to doing some marketing material mockup- website UI UX and retouch/color adjusting for Large Print Format? Not sure what art actually meant in this video. IF title said drawing app yeahh I can relate and maybe agree
Ive been using photoshop for a while and its taught in my college, but recently I feel like its lacking when I want to actually paint something. I like sketching in it but thats pretty much it, actually trying to paint is such a pain for me in the program and I dont even know why, its frustrating that its standard in my industry and the ‘best’ I wanted to find a new program to learn, once specifically meant for painting and cheaper as well because currently My school pays for adobe.
@@Harrison11106 ok thx. lol. I actually got the 30days free version of clip studio paint, and fell in love with it... it just feel soo much natural to draw in it than PS...
To be fair they both serve different purposes... I'm using Clip for concepts drawing, painting, Photoshop for any form of artwork/photo manipulation, affinity designer for my vector works and affinity publisher for my publication stuff. Some blender for 3D works, photoshop 3D function is only good for quick 3D extrusion to create a 3D profile for simple shapes, else picking up any other 3D software is always better.
This video came out in 2019, but Photoshop has had line smoothing since 2018's release. I used to use Lazy Nezumi, but stopped paying for updates since the line smoothing slider was sufficient enough. AKA... Photoshop DOES have line stabilization from 2018 and above. Also, Liquify and Warp is a GAME CHANGER. I can't leave that for Clip, and I work on a comic. If Clip adds Liquify and improves a few more things... I may consider a switch. I still champion Photoshop.
I'm not Cyan, but if you're just in-it for concept art and not making manga or comics I would recommend you get a CSP Pro. Still, Photoshop beats CSP when it comes to concept art. In my opinion with the 2 software at least.
Absolutely. As a budget app, CSP Pro is about as good as art apps get for a total of 50$ (even less if you buy it on sale.) EX is more for animators and professional mangakas and comics creators.
So just to verify, you can basically make the same quality of art on each one? Or is there a certain painting that one can make that the other can't handle?
Technically yes, it really just depends what you are looking for how long your using it for and the style your going for. I use csp because I draw and animate so I dont need filters and I like that it is a one time payment becaus ei plan on using it for a long time.
Both apps are already considerably changed, including a complete refresh of tool-icons in Clip Studio (if you care). Also, you miss differences in *_INKING_* tools, which are *_FAR_* better in Clip Studio. If you want to make comics, that fact alone should seal the deal with Clip.
CSP is by far better for digital painting/drawing/2D animation. PS is more powerful for photo editing, photo manipulation, video editing, 3D painting, and of course Adobe.
But the trend of digital photo editing painting art is getting really famous I mean mixing picture painting it like that And main thing i like of photoshop is its toll you can use its toll in limitless amount A toll can work better in some case where now one can imagine
There is some misinformation here... • Photoshop does have brushes that dynamically blend with other colors on the fly: mixer brushes. • Photoshop does have built-in line stabilization and has for a while. It's literally called "smoothing" and has a whole bunch of different settings and modes.
Thank you for your comment! - We do mention that the closest to the blend tool at CPS is the mixer brush tool at 8:33. - Other users have mentioned this and we already know we missed that ;).
@@CyanOrangeStudio I know you mention that at 833. But you say it doesn't exist in Photoshop at all earlier in the video which isn't true. No biggie. Just saying. Nice video though, have a good one! Thanks for the content! :)
clip studio paint is a one time purchase while photoshop is a monthly subscription which costs the same per mouth as clip studio costs for a 1 time purchase i think i see the definite winner here if we are going by prices
Photoshop cc got 1000 of option can be used for painting to god level editing the only reason people feel photoshop sometime is laggy while painting with some brush is because of there pc specs You need to buy high amount for it and also need high end pc for it or even mac
You can actually make pixel art in csp! And quite easily at that. The only thing you can't do is have an automatic tiling view, but otherwise, at least for me, it has the necessary pixelart tools (dot pen, scaling, pixel eraser).
Clip has a better interface. It is WAY more user friendly, because unlike PS, you don't have to be taught where all the hidden options are, and it's much more customizable. PS presents new users with a knowledge wall that can only be overcome with tuition, help or guidence. This is not the case on Clip. Because none of the options are hidden.
hm... i think u need more spend of time for CSP bcs much of ur mention, they had like PS liquify on CSP is not mesh transform its fingertips n it's same effect but it more advanced bcs u can more advantage the customize the effect mesh transform is more like addition features bcs PS doesnt had n u can sett up more on the setting section on CSP blend they had blending, bluring, fingertips (liquify) n there's more sub categories from this 3 to become different effect if u customize it more or u can found it on the assets cloud they had AI colors too for auto colors for illustration so u can used it too for refference n u can mix with ur own style of illustration n bash it they had perspective ruler, mirroring n auto blending fill bucket for skin tones n sky n stuff . they had auto action like macro so if u learn it well u can making something step with this auto action so u're not making from zero there's bunch of function n features wich PS doesnt had . n then something like when the process getting auto save recovery/backups u can disable this features on the performance setting for me the 2 of them is great but there's more advantage features on CSP but u need spend more of times to figures out n customize, n actually the abr brush from PS can be turn to become CSP brush ofc u need to learn ho to change it to become CSP brushes + the assets n brush on the cloud of CSP is grown n grown more n more so u can used abr brushes from PS + u can add more from cloud assets . i vote for CSP, but there's some huge gap behind them even CSP is kinda be more advantage that's the color we know CSP can be switch the colors n we can used the plate of colors from PS too n more advantage, CSP had proximate colors for u know picking up the gradient colors n CSP is having more layers mode but the filters for color, like balancing n stuff PS is great, PS is more superb one the color is more like sharp vibes the CSp is kinda more flat well it's my oppinion, usually after im done i'll changin to PS for balance the colors doing filters n stuff rather doing the color balance at CSP . well actually there's something interesting at cSP performance settings, the had different system for colors rendering maybe there's some setting on this rendering colors option wich has similar render system like PS does so if we used balance colors filter its has the same effect like PS does (not yet to try) bcs it's kinda be my habbit after done at csp im using PS for balancing colors n some filters that CSP didnt had bcs ps more vibrant n sharp vibe n something like glossy effects n its more vivid. rather than on CSP its kinda be more flat n soft colors, sometimes if we wanna making something like COPIC colors cSp is the good choices but if we wanna more vibrant n more colorfull PS leading the way . n on vectors layers CSP has bunch of good features for us like eraser things, pressure things for thick or narrow edge n much more well if u spend it more to learn the features its awsome . but i love the 2 of them. but yeah for price perfo CSP is the winner but if we got 2 of them is superb LOL . lastly on my oppinion i'm okay with them n both of them can be used for great comics n concept art (its just depend on HOW U USED IT) tools is not always having advantage its back to the user for how u USED it . well for me im ok with both of them bcs i'm already used different things too like open canvas medibang SAI jumppaint n gimp but for corel idk why i can't comfort to used that whatever the version is that corel painter sketch photopaint draw all of their version i can't comfort with them kinda frustrating
the new clip studio has a black interface and their blending tool is 1000 times better. i think we can all agree that adobe is a greedy company. if they actually cared about young and upcoming artist they wouldnt do the whole subscription base bs. they already have tonnes of money but no its not enough for em.
this is the same like illustrator vs inkscape vs infinity... lets be hones adobe is still no 1.... some programms like clip studio have some more specific features but in the end u still can archive it with adobe too...
I hate the ridiculous Adobe subscription model, so I bought Clip Studio to make drawings and animations and the Affinity Suite for everything else (I mostly use Affinity Photo for photo manipulation, haven't really tried the rest). If I need something simple done quick I usually use Paint. Net (Although Affinity Photo and CSP are technically better, Paint. Net is still faster for really quick simple stuff, and it's free!) Adobe's bussiness model is abusive and absurd considering you can get similar or even better programs (Both Affinity and CSP have tools Photoshop lacks) for much, much cheaper. The only reason they still get by is because they have a monopoly on professional use, but that's starting to change.
Bro adobe lack tools? Are you mad Its only problem is price and it need a high end pc and mac Its tool are limitless Photo editing in painting is highly loved by artist today
@@shanchar I said that CSP and Affinity have tools that Photoshop lacks, not that Adobe lacked tools. Adobe also has tools that CSP and Affinity don't have. Adobe has even been adding features that Affinity programs have that they lack lately.
Le fait de ne pas intégrer un "AutoUpdate" dans ClipStudioPaint est une bonne chose... Certaines mise à jours sont bancales, donc mieux avec attendre avant de se jeter dessus.
Photoshop not connecting to anything? Since about 2006 they had Adobe Bridge which acted as the... Well... Bridge between software before the Creative Cloud was introduced. It allowed you to use Photoshop Assets directly in Fuse, Illustrator, lightroom, premier pro, etc. Also. Photoshop introduced Animation with Photoshop CC. Just saying. Might be an idea to do more research before recording a video.
This video is from 2019, but for people that land here now (and what I say below will not be current in 2022, lol), just wanted to mention a few things that are not so anymore (most in favor of Clip Studio, I mostly use it now, although I am a trained professional with Photoshop). My main point is that both softwares are great, but for illustration, painting and comic, Clip Studio is making more and more sense as time goes by, and not just because of the PS's subscription model :
- About performance (besides that Photoshop can run a bit slow in more humble machines, and it is a memory - RAM and disk- hog), with the many layers example, maybe you might have not had the bar progress dialog (when hitting 60+ layers) if deactivated automatic saving, which is ON by default. It's surely just saving constantly (and this is not great if what you have is a SSD, even if u don't see the bar, for lifespan of the SSD concerns) a large file to disk (so, depends on the speed of your disk!) while you only need that when you want to save (PS takes a LOONG time to save, even longer). Of course, Clip does this to prevent human error, but a trained artist typically can disable this in preferences, and so work more fluidly with large files.
- Photoshop has, since CC 2018, if I don't remember now badly, "Smoothing" of the line (a bit confusing with other matters they already called smoothing, but hey), which works as a line stabilizer, and you can set the amount of it in the top bar, usually. It works BETTER than the external program (Lazy Nezumi) that you mentioned. But of course, Lazy nezumi provides with a lot more functionality than just line stabilizing. These days I prefer that this functionality would be built-in in the software (is a reality in most apps: Krita, Affinity Photo, Clip Studio, Photoshop, etc. But Nezumi is a great tool.
- Interface: Clip Studio does now (surely not possible in 2019) allow to set the dark interface. Recent updates have improved a lot the interface, making it more modern. IMO, indeed here Clip Studio wins by far (but it will be improbable to hear it from people used to Photoshop, I know as I was one of these cases. So, mostly "better" or "more slick", in the end means for most people "more similar to Photoshop", while Photoshop's approach to an UI is not particularly ideal, far from it. Indeed, Clip is way more configurable, as an UI. I can set the tool bar to be literally whatever I want and make each tool react with different behaviors, mixing them with many tools. I can create new tools, add them to both the side and top menu tools bars drag and drop (ctrl + dragging) tools from one bard to another, etc, etc. The flexibility is immense, but a bit hidden until you deal quite with the software. Mostly, until you make an actual real project with it. Even more when it becomes your bread and butter.
- Art department: Clip wins for a much more natural response of the pen with it. And a line smoothing which does not get "in the way". Its flat oil brush and the capabilities for mixing in adding paint quantity, extending color and other features make it absolutely nice for a traditional touch illustration style. Its inking tools are amazing, specially if using vector layers, allowing a more controllable and faster inking than with Photoshop. The reason why many comic artists and line art illustrators using to have to run illustrator for this task was due to features only being posible with vectors in Illustrator, while inking. Now they have it all in one in Clip.
- Totally agree with the price matter. Clip is much cheaper, and most artists can choose the right time for them (ie: when they are less broke ;) ) to make a permanent license purchase.
The perfect combo is purchasing as well Affinity Photo (and Affinity Designer if working a lot in graphic design and vectors), so to use it for other more image editing based tasks, as even while an illustrator can fully depend only in Clip Studio, from time to time you might need one of the features Photoshop or Affinity Photo have (also because several illustrators do occasionally graphic design work). Like clip, Affinity Photo is a permanent purchase, of the same price (at this time, dunno in 2035) of Clip Studio Paint Pro. So, you are done and set (for art and more graphic editing tasks) with 100 bucks for a bunch of years. Usually most artists will upgrade Affinity Photo every 5 years or so, though, to get new features and improvements. But they provide a ton of upgrades for free, mostly only major integer numbers need a paid version (2.0, 3.0...) and between those, seems to happen a several years of free updates, so, great deal. As you can also work with outdated Affinity apps. Serif nor Celsys lock you down in any way, like other companies do.
Subscription models might sound great for getting companies as clients, but for the freelancer, not good. Specially if all the software becomes subscription based. Is not just 60 dollars monthly here, everything would add up (happily, it seems people is reacting to this strongly, so I believe that with some companies, permanent licenses are here to stay. Also because is a huge sells value, being the dominant suites subscription based). Luckily, graphic open source software is of great quality, lately (finally). Now Krita is very competent for digital painting and line art (not far from Clip Studio), Blender is an absolute wonder for 3D art, Inkscape has some lacks, but combined with Scribus and Gimp, and of course, Krita, you get a graphics making nice combo. (Besides all this, you have other photo editing tools just as powerful, like Photoline (for image edioting, not for painting), and you can get entire graphic design suites like Corel Draw (700$ permanent, or subscription), or Xara Designer Pro (a multi functional tool in one software). But personally not very fan of these. Clip Studio or Krita + Affinity Photo (serif.com ) or Photoline ( pl32.com ) do really make the job. And then for pure graphic design (in those matters not being the ground of raster- Photoshop) you have Affinity Designer. Or Inkscape + Scribus. (Until Inkscape gets some solid CMYK support, I'd be recommending Affinity Designer better).
For what I do, illustration, painting and comic, Clip Studio wins, there's no real contest :). And this while I have always worked as a concept artist, in-game graphics artist, painter and more things (ie, graphic design), with Photoshop, sin its versions 2.x (the actual 2.x, not CS2 !). Meaning I am VERY comfortable drawing and painting with photoshop, but for that, Clip Studio is clearly superior.
Thank you for taking the time. That was very useful!
I was an avid photoshop user for years, but the subscription payment plan was such a turn off I switched. I bought CSP on Black Friday for 25 bucks. As others have said... I’m not renting software, I want to own it.
Lawrence Scales I actually just saw the sale today and I’m considering getting it, I’ve used photoshop for years but I’m considering switching things up
Can you put this on multiple devices? lol I'm out of the loop, last time I bought photoshop you got a CD with it on it.
@@standepain i just activated clip studio paint on a second computer today, and it worked. I bought clip studio paint in 2015 in a humble bungle for $15, and I was STILL able to activate the updated version on my new computer 5 years later. what a fantastic company!
Used Photoshop for years. Clip Studio Paint beats it hands down. The perspective ruler feature ALONE is worth the price of the software.
Used both programs. I would agree with you on the perspective rulers but Lazy Nezumi is a cheap plugin that adds a lot more ruler and smoothing features than Clip. I think Clip Studio is a better option for those doing comics and line work because that's the focus of the program but for more complex and realistic paintings unfortunately Clip is still nowhere near photoshop.
@@Hyzalker yaay I feel good! I bought Lazy Nezumi yesterday and I was regretting not buying Clip as its 50 dollars and sometimes it is 25. But I tried it and couldnt use it. Some people create brilliant artworks with it (way better than mine) but I didnt like the program . I still love my Photoshop . Lazy helped with line art in photoshop
@@Hyzalker I got excited about Lazy Nezumi, then found out it's WIndows only. Is there anything for Mac users?
@@RJSamonte Yeah I think the author of LNP mentioned something about OS limitations on mac which makes it hard to port. I've heard some mac users talk about Hej Stylus, but I never used it so I don't know how it compares to LNP.
Same here. If you're doing any drawing or illustration, Clip blows Photoshop out of the water by miles. Photoshop is the clear winner for things like photo editing though.
"Photoshop is expensive"
Me with a eyepatch and a hook for a hand: 😈
CRACK
Hahaha same *arrg*
I always thought piracy was super hard but you literally click the button and get what you what
@@saltoftheearth7734 specially on r/Piracy for safer searches
where'd you get your ps?
i'm a concept artist and an illustrator and i use both of these softwares. in addition to maya and zbrush of course.
but i do think that if i had to choose, i'd go with clip.
I don't draw. I just like watching random videos of product comparison
lol
Strange kink😂
Lmfao
this comment gets even funnier when it's in the middle of so many artists 😂😂😂 I support your hobby, though
I draw AND like software shoot-outs!
Thing is, photoshop is more taught to people. I learned it through school and stuff like that. For clip studio, you really need to get to know it because theres a lot of tools at your disposal. Clip studio is also more customizable and you can really make it your own. Either way paying for the software once instead of a subscription is way better. Clip studio is definitely better for art than Photoshop
I actually find clip studio paint is a lot easier to use than photoshop. I got a 2 year license with my wacom drawing tablet, so it was my first drawing programme. I tried out photoshop, too, but I found that clip studio paint was just easier to use. And clip studio paint has many tutorials on its website anyway.
@@rhiannn3416 how do u get that with wacom. i have purchased a wacom intuos comic recently..
@@LoneWolf-tk9em the code for the program shouod be on the box somewhere. You have to checkthe wacom website though, because my wacom comic is an older version. You would have gotten the new version, so i dontknow if theyve changed the programs it comes with or not
@@rhiannn3416 hey there, mine is also older version (pen & touch).. & yes i think i need to do some Google..
I think Photoshop is overcomlicated and confusing for people who just wanna DRAW and do some simple photo editing, its not even fun imo!
Clipstudio on the other side is just so easy to dive in and have fun with!
I tried both programs when i started and decided to not even bother with PS, because it was annoying as hell to use for me!
Learned Clipstudio instead, dont regred that decision at all!
My art school is paying for Photoshop, and highly recommends it as a drawing software.. I’m graduating soon and I definitely don’t have to money to continue my subscription. CSP sounds like a good alternative, but idk
Clip also has the ability to save in .psd format also in preferences you can change to the dark configuration. Photoshop has been around a long while but surely rests on its laurels. Clip studio paint is improving all the time and soon will equal photoshop in all departments and eventually overtake unless adobe pull their finger out.
It's now default in clip studio to have a dark interface
He's using an older version, maybe we can get an updated version
"controversial" opinion here. Apart from idiotic subsciption model - Photoshop sill is IMO the best program for concept artists. For illustrators? Sure, CSP and Sketchbook might be just as good if not better but Phothoshop wins in the conceptual art due to the fact that... well.. it has everything.
...But MY GOD I hate that subscription model...
Intersting. What do you feel is missing from CSP?
@@Captkid1 I think some people have just gotten more used to using a particular software over the years and its workflow. Feature-wise, Clip has a lot more for concept artists compared to Photoshop, even when you include copying and pasting in images for additional texture, etc.
I guess you could argue that it has a wider library and support for brushes, but even those can easily be converted and imported into Clip Studio. It actually now supports native Photoshop brush support.
Just wanna clarify something really quick: The vector layer in Clip Studio Paint does not allow you to use the gradient tool, the bucket tool or the blend tool because the Vector layer was made mainly for line art- and I don't know anyone, or have seen anyone use any of those tools in their line art before. if someone WAS to use any of those in a vector layer (for some reason) you could switch it to a regular layer by clicking on it with the right mouse button and selecting the Convert layer option (or H). So in my honest opinion, Clip Studio won the "Superpowers of each software" round.
(i wrote all of this to give my opinion and to prove my point? Yes... But I hope it helps people who just got Clip Studio too
CSP is the software for drawing, comics and illustration in general. It beats from far any software.
Clip Studio is an amazing program. It specializes in drawing and manga creation. Lately they added the animation stuff. Photoshop on the other hand is more of a workhorse software that can do everything imaginable. Clip Studio probably has the better drawing tools and by far the deepest customization. Photoshop is overall the more complete program.
For those who think CSP is just for drawing comics I know several artist who use it for grand illustrations. HyannaNatsue Rosuuri [she did in 2016 though that might've changed] NekoRina and others
Waaaaait, Clip Studio also has ability to work with 3D objects, so it doesn’t make Photoshop special in it, no?
We are no experts in the 3D option, so we just said that Photoshop seems to have more advanced 3D options but as we said in the video, we are no experts in that field.
@@CyanOrangeStudio In regards to 3D I have had this product for years (it was called Manga Studio 5 when I bought it), It has 3D models in it which I do feel personally are at least as good as those in Photoshop. Also I feel you should also look at how they react to graphics tablets as when I did use photoshop to test it my tablet just could not agree with it at all.
@@BrittleScarMusic yeah they have actual human figures you can use... pretty coooool
This may be a bit advanced, but you can save out 3D figures from DAZ Studio (free program) in FBX format and import them into Clip. There you can continue to pose them because the rigging info comes with the model. (Presumably, the same would be true with models exported from other 3D apps.) Although Clip comes with its own very serviceable 3D figures, the ones from DAZ have much more sophisticated & realistic meshes.
CSP user here, I came here to see if Photoshop was worth it because I'm really jealous of the color dodge brush (often used by Ross Draws), liquify tool, touch-up filters, and general interface design. At only $10 a month (unless I'm wrong, cause that's the price I see in the photography package) the color dodge and liquify tools alone seem worth it, even though I would very much rather not have subscription apps.
I think these two programs would be delightful used together, and this video has been helpful really highlighting that to me; thank you for making it! Photoshop is definitely on my list to get now ^^
I’ve used PS professionally for 20 years. I’ve also done 3D in it’s entirely for the same time, also professionally. I recently discovered CSP and fell in love with it instantly. Only for the graphic design PS is better. Bye bye Photoshop, comparing to Clip you suck.
i've never believed people said they have used PS for blahblah years and use CSP now lmaoooo
@@dxza6449 That shows you know nothing about working in this field. I started when Macromedia Flash was just starting to be a thing, PS was version 3.02 and web design was very rudimentary. Now I’ve been an Art Director for 6 years in a very big advertising agency, cannot get a higher position working in advertising and web design.
@@nomadicsculpt lol i've never believed people said they have used PS for blahblah years and use CSP now, especially in illustration and painting field
@@dxza6449 It’s your loss, man 😊
Clip Studio Paint is the best drawing software I've ever used. I've used plenty of other art programs in the past, Paint Tool Sai, Photoshop, Sketchbook, OpenCanvas etc, but they all pale in comparison to CSP.
What I like best about Clip Studi Paint is how user friendly it is to new and more experienced artists. I've been using it for about the past several months and I really started to fall in love with it since I got my 22" XP Pen Artist 22R Pro Display Drawing Tablet. I primarily use it for manga/comic illustrations.
I also find the drawing dolls very useful for illustrating the human figure since I'm not accustomed to utilizing stick figures.
7:28 this feature was literally the cherry on top to convince me, I GOT SO EXCITED ABOUT THE COLOR TRANSITION
This is such a great comprehensive overview, no matter which program you end up choosing. Really great video. 👍
For some reason the red dead redemption music makes this video even better
Clip studio is constantly getting updated and their newest update is very visually pleasing, it's like photoshops ui but cheaper and for comic artists. Also with clip studio I've seen people still being able to do really nice art similar to concept part people do on photoshop without the lines and everything. Also if you did compare the ex version then I'd say it would have been a much more fair comparison when you have access to more tools and everything, clip studio ex no joke can go for $90 on sales and registers up to 3 devices per copy, that's cheap for a professional art software
I personally have had a better experience with clip studio for illustration. Photoshop takes more memory and processing power on my system, and has habitually crashed. Clip studio feels more straight to the point for drawing, but I would use photoshop for photo editing.
I tried Clip studio paint about 4 years ago and while i really liked drawing on it; what irked me about the program was how difficult it was to use texture on the brushes; In order to import brush texture you have to do this roundabout process of importing the texture as a library item, and there are no dedicated sliders for changing the brightness and contrast of the texture. (this last part is very necessary to adjust the grain of the texture in the brush!) I wonder if CSP improved this in any way n the 4 years of updates that followed?
It's much more different now. You can simply make or drag a texture pic in CSP and save it in your material library (register as material). From there you can use it as a texture on your brushes. Textures are customisable like PS too. There's also a built-in huge library of assets where people can share their brushes/textures/3d materials/etc.
Cancelled my PS subscription after using pure CSP for 4 months. I'm 2 years in now. I do miss some features like the history screenshot thing and liquify, but I can live without those.
SO photoshop brushes really can't blend... Ive been losing my mind all week trying to get brushes to blend like in CSP. Looks like Ill be doing my homework in CSP and saying I used Photoshop
Did not mention clip studio's multi-page comic management system. That's one of the main reasons I bought it and it's invaluable.
Csp needs to expand their brush engine and add liquify to its roster of features...i still prefer it over photoshop...those water color brushes are unmatched for blending as you paint...
Photoshop has liquify... but:
clip studio has vector lines. this was way under sold in this video. its a very useful system. you can easily erase overlapping lines, you can edit lines using bezier curves, and you can alter line widths. clip studio has superior fill buckets for color blocking. clip studio has a perspective ruler system better than anything photoshop has. clip studio has "transparency painting" where you can reverse whatever brush you have to become an eraser, which is super useful. it has multi-layer transform. i'm not sure but others have said clip studio has better brush customization/creation.
... not to mention the comic features (i don't use them but they are there). you can easily create comic panels that mask the art inside of it. you can dynamically rearrange said panels. there is a system for speech bubbles which looks super easy.
i used to use photoshop, but clip studio is the clear winner for me. i was surprised this video just called it a wash. photoshops only advantage is liquify. this video called it even because photoshop won on UI? just make clip studio darker. i don't need a frickin landing page before getting to work. what a weird point to put on a comparison chart.
Hello there! We compare each software in each category and yes, we believe Photoshop has better UI than CSP. Some might not care about that but it is a subject in our design battle. About the Vector line system not all illustrators might find that useful, it depends on what is your approach when you create and draw. For example, I, Sonya, mostly paint and do concept art stuff. Liquify is key for Concept art work, so I consider that a powerful tool. However someone that does vector illustrations might not care at all for liquify, they would go all the way with the vector layers and so. As we mentioned at the end, the decision of who wins depends on YOU, what's your focus? what do you look for in a drawing software? Still, we hope our video was useful somehow to you.
You do not need Lazy Nezumi. You can adjust Smoothing in PS to achieve cleaner lines when drawing.
You forget the Brushstores, the Support Rooms and the Tutorials in Clip Studio.
Thank you so much all the other peoples review videos and battles between clip paint studio and photoshop end up being about something
completely different and this was purely perfect and about the title of it.
I like Clip Studio, but as far as i know it has one big flaw. Extending it with Plug-Ins or similar is made unnecessarily hard by only providing the SDK in Japanese.
Which, quite honestly, in this day and age, boggles the mind.
I believe it could be even better if they provided an Open SDK in English, with good documentation. Or maybe even additional ways to make it more extensible.
I’ll say as someone studying animation, clip studio is so much better it’s almost ridiculous. The only thing photoshop has on it is ability to scrub through audio, while clip studio has too many advantages to list. Also interestingly with the performance thing, on my not great computer I use when not in class Clip studio runs really well but photoshop would entirely crash my computer most of the times I ran it.
10 months late, but would you recommend clip studio over adobe animate for animation?
@@nathanhernandez7173 definitely, animate can be very difficult to deal with and has very bad brushes (and is only ector). There is actually a lot of anime animated with key frames drawn in clip studio. The only warning I’d give is that if your computer isn’t great the preview playback can lag (but you can always test things by exporting them and then they’ll be fine). I’d recommend checking out the channel striving for animation who generally use it for animating.
@@TalussAthner thank you so much for your insight
Animate CC: Wait, you guys are getting brushes?
You can also get tons of brushes online for CSP, just go to assets,,,
Also, the black interface in CSP was default for like...years????
overall it seems like you just voiced your first impression without trying to really understand :/
Well in our case when we open it un two different computers the interface was white as default. But we say u can change it to black or grey. And the brushes we know that we just compare the quantity u can find on internet. Thanks for the feedback ;) we will improve with each new video.
I never used photoshop and i cant cuz too expensive, i bought csp in may and since that day im using it i love it so muchh, i have anime ish style and there many good thing like ruler and thing, ofc im still a newbie so i dont know too much but i learned a little bit luckily for 7 months after owo, photoshop its more for photo editing i will said
I haven't really tried photoshop yet
But damn are the brushes of CSP nice
I'm artist who has been drawing traditionally for a decade and i learned how to use photoshop. But moving out to digital feels like drawing from scratch, so i was wondering if you can do a professional concept art on clip art too such as realistic drawing with great shading and composition
anguiba yes you can make professional drawings on csp its better equipped for that than photoshop...but lear the brush engine you can make really nice shading blend brushes...
If you want to use clip for illustration it does lack one fundamental tool and that is boolean merge; which even Krita has. When think through a logo or border pattern i sometimes like to lay down some shapes overlap and try different merges like intersection or union to get some interesting effects building up complex shapes from overlapping simple ones. In clip you kind of have to draw it
Awesome tutorial, thank you!
4:35 but I like the white it keeps my eyes awake
comics ftw. it's my goal to tell stories through art. i'm hella happy clip studio has a permanent license model, so i'm more than happy to give them my money, and upgrade when i have enough.
First, a quick apology for what'll become a "wall o" text".
I have both (EX version of CSP). I very rarely use my PS, mainly keeping it for those few things that it does that CSP don't do: mainly text manipulation. The differences to me between PS & CSP besides the obvious (PS more for Graphic Design, CSP more for straight up drawing/illustration) are as follows.
For me PS is more malleable, which is to say that you can add stuff to it & tweak it to make it "your own" fairly easily... on paper. However, for myself that becomes a paywall quickly (on TOP of the monthly subscription) &/or time consuming. Some examples: CSP by default has page flipping/mirroring, you have to program that in for PS. The color palate/color wheel he mentions, the palette is very basic on PS, to get the one you saw here you must get it it via a 2nd party program which costs $20.
The brushes to me are a jumbled mess on PS; on CSP to me they're more visually appealing in their individual groups (Pen, marker, watercolor, pencils, etc). On the layers, you can change the layers from a raster to vector layer & back again easily on CSP, you can also change the line width on raster layer drawings easily on CSP. PS arguably has more in the way of filters, but it comes with few compared to past integrations (I miss the fractal filter & the wood grain filter of old), to have an actual large set of them you must either find them (good luck) or buy them. Again this is on top of the monthly subscription, though generally speaking, a one-time payment each time. You can mimic the filters in CSP, but more often then not it'll be via a new type of brush that you'll either have to find, or make. When making a thumbnail on CSP vs PS, I notice the differences between the duo as soon as I enlarge the drawing. On CSP the drawing stays the same; on PS, the more I enlarge it the more pixelated it gets. Enlarge it enough on PS & it looks like it came straight out of the 8 bit NES.
Now PS vs CSP on my PC. First my overall PCs STATS as of today.
Tower Phanteks Enthoo Pro, full tower
OS Windows 10 Pro 64 bit
CPU AMD Ryzen Threadripper 1920x 12 core (32 GB RAM)
CPU Cooler Noctua brand
HDs
1 TB SSD for everyday
2 TB Hybrid for Origin, GoG & Misc
4 TB Hybrid for Steam
GPU Radeon RX 570
PSU Corsair RMx 850w modular
Monitors ASUS 27" WQHD for everyday & gaming. Wacom Cintiq 22" touch, for art.
CSP is MUCH more responsive on my Wacom then PS is. Hope this helps, even if only a little bit. I'm eager to try out Corel Paint, just for the palette knife brush.
EDIT: A word of warning, CSP is starting to get into the subscription based game too. So far it's limited to the tablet/mobile version of the program. I have heard you can easily transfer files from the tablet/mobile version to the PC version & back again, but have not tested that myself, I'm not made of money.
I think the best opinion would be to lead off with Clip Studio & if you get to a point where you want to go Pro, then buy Photoshop for one or two months to get familiar with the software. When your working in the industry then chose the software right for you, get your job to pay that monthly fee. personally the only limitation I found with Clip Studio is the limited tutorials online.
İ used photoshop for 4 years. Game designs. But i wanna draw manga and i bought an graphic tablet which one i should for draw manga Clip studio or photoshop ?
Clip Studio Paint sounds better for you! :)
It is a difficult decision but it all comes down to the artist's needs....and wallet.
*I use both* to this day (09/2020) and here's my general opinion:
*Clip Studio* is the best for drawing and illustration, it is also specifically designed to do that.
*Photoshop* has superior image and file manipulation tools and is a *must* for concept art, (also industry standard)
I prefer *Clip Studio*.
It was made for drawing, the brush engine is astonishing compared to the laggy brushes in Photoshop.
*Photoshop* is not exactly lightweight when it comes down to requirements for a smooth drawing experience and it's getting worse with every update (Adobe is doing awful on all fronts with updates) It *will not* perform well at high resolution on less powerful machines.
The 'superpowers' of *Clip Studio* are many maaany more than *Photoshop* when it comes down to drawing (again, *Photoshop* is photo editing software adapted to and can be used for drawing, *Clip Studio IS a drawing software* )
Some honorable mentions include but are not limited to:
•The integrated perspective tools and rulers
•The posable mannequins and 3d objects
•The assets library to freely expand your tools
•The endless opportunities offered by the vector lines
•The integrated color picking precision tools
•The unbeatable price-to-gain. come on, the whole Adobe price-to-support&stability is, to say the least, *insulting.*
Photoshop has an undeniably better looking, pleasing, tidy interface, and overall cured visual design, the tools available for manipulation of the image, color, rendering, effects, and file options are the best.
In conclusion, for what I do, for the computer I own, *Clip Studio* wins for me but still, I couldn't live without *Photoshop.*
7:35 Mixer brush was surely a thing in PS already in 2019 when you covered this. It does mix.
If you're only doing manual draw or illustration the answer already clear but what IF you also need to doing some marketing material mockup- website UI UX and retouch/color adjusting for Large Print Format?
Not sure what art actually meant in this video. IF title said drawing app yeahh I can relate and maybe agree
We are in lllustrators, sorry if we forgot to specify.
this video was very enlightening and well made, thank you
Guess clip wins for me as I didn't get a white design
The video is helpful, but the real help is here in the comments.
Ive been using photoshop for a while and its taught in my college, but recently I feel like its lacking when I want to actually paint something. I like sketching in it but thats pretty much it, actually trying to paint is such a pain for me in the program and I dont even know why, its frustrating that its standard in my industry and the ‘best’ I wanted to find a new program to learn, once specifically meant for painting and cheaper as well because currently My school pays for adobe.
hey, 10:42 that’s incorrect, we have stabilization in photoshop now.
Yes, we didn't know it had it when we did the video. It's called "Smoothing" in PS. Thank you for pointing out.
rune just CC sry :(
So use to PS now, little nervous to try a new platform but the savings seems worth it. Might do a trial to give it a test run. Thanks for the video.
As for an indie game developer, I want to know, which software is more efficient to draw sprites and background and UI for 2D games?
Probably PS, it's more tailored to graphic design.
@@Harrison11106 ok thx. lol. I actually got the 30days free version of clip studio paint, and fell in love with it... it just feel soo much natural to draw in it than PS...
7:36 that’s incorrect, photoshop brushes can do that, I’ve used it quite often
Yes, someone already pointed that out. Already noted.
To be fair they both serve different purposes... I'm using Clip for concepts drawing, painting, Photoshop for any form of artwork/photo manipulation, affinity designer for my vector works and affinity publisher for my publication stuff. Some blender for 3D works, photoshop 3D function is only good for quick 3D extrusion to create a 3D profile for simple shapes, else picking up any other 3D software is always better.
I use clip studio OMG its installing rn
This video came out in 2019, but Photoshop has had line smoothing since 2018's release. I used to use Lazy Nezumi, but stopped paying for updates since the line smoothing slider was sufficient enough. AKA... Photoshop DOES have line stabilization from 2018 and above. Also, Liquify and Warp is a GAME CHANGER. I can't leave that for Clip, and I work on a comic. If Clip adds Liquify and improves a few more things... I may consider a switch. I still champion Photoshop.
Hey there would you recommend CSP to an artist on a budget that does concept art?
I'm not Cyan, but if you're just in-it for concept art and not making manga or comics I would recommend you get a CSP Pro. Still, Photoshop beats CSP when it comes to concept art. In my opinion with the 2 software at least.
Absolutely. As a budget app, CSP Pro is about as good as art apps get for a total of 50$ (even less if you buy it on sale.) EX is more for animators and professional mangakas and comics creators.
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes great thank you
@@SpringStarFangirl ok thank you
@@GouAndSotsuWereMistakes why does PS beat PSD on that? Concept art is still concept art regardless of what program you use...right?
So just to verify, you can basically make the same quality of art on each one? Or is there a certain painting that one can make that the other can't handle?
Technically yes, it really just depends what you are looking for how long your using it for and the style your going for. I use csp because I draw and animate so I dont need filters and I like that it is a one time payment becaus ei plan on using it for a long time.
I absolutely LOVE csp. The vector layers are SO useful. Lineart just got 10000000000x less frustrating.
For line work, I use Vector Layers exclusively.
Both apps are already considerably changed, including a complete refresh of tool-icons in Clip Studio (if you care). Also, you miss differences in *_INKING_* tools, which are *_FAR_* better in Clip Studio. If you want to make comics, that fact alone should seal the deal with Clip.
I come here , cause thinking to change Photoshop, i hate when it get laggy in a certain points while i draw , like a in 1s
PS : i have a good PC
CSP is by far better for digital painting/drawing/2D animation. PS is more powerful for photo editing, photo manipulation, video editing, 3D painting, and of course Adobe.
But the trend of digital photo editing painting art is getting really famous
I mean mixing picture painting it like that
And main thing i like of photoshop is its toll you can use its toll in limitless amount
A toll can work better in some case where now one can imagine
Thanks for sharing ... really like photoshop but it's too expensive
The only thing PS still does better than CSP is that it has alignment options. If CSP had this feature, I would definitely stop paying for PS.
Well, you can kind of pay them 240$ as it was before CS5 and have a torrent edition.
But what about krita
I use both, for different things
unless you're a professional or looking to make substantial profit off your art or at uni there is no reason for photoshop.
There is some misinformation here...
• Photoshop does have brushes that dynamically blend with other colors on the fly: mixer brushes.
• Photoshop does have built-in line stabilization and has for a while. It's literally called "smoothing" and has a whole bunch of different settings and modes.
Thank you for your comment!
- We do mention that the closest to the blend tool at CPS is the mixer brush tool at 8:33.
- Other users have mentioned this and we already know we missed that ;).
@@CyanOrangeStudio I know you mention that at 833. But you say it doesn't exist in Photoshop at all earlier in the video which isn't true. No biggie. Just saying. Nice video though, have a good one! Thanks for the content! :)
What computer do you use?
Our computer is custom made.
nice comparison, however clip studio in 2d or 3d animation is way better, since you could have multiple layers, books, scenes, it's just easier.
clip studio paint is a one time purchase while photoshop is a monthly subscription which costs the same per mouth as clip studio costs for a 1 time purchase i think i see the definite winner here if we are going by prices
CSP for Life with Me!~
If both softwares were free, whats better for someone who wants to draw realism?
Both are good but if you wanna start in digital go for CSP as it's way cheaper with a permanent license purchase.
photoshop
where to download PS pen tools?
Not sure which pen tools you mean but there are many tools you can get either in gumroad or other sites.
The only time you would need Photoshop is when you are editing photos or making pixel art (clip studio paint currently can't do).
Photoshop cc got 1000 of option can be used for painting to god level editing the only reason people feel photoshop sometime is laggy while painting with some brush is because of there pc specs
You need to buy high amount for it and also need high end pc for it or even mac
You can actually make pixel art in csp! And quite easily at that. The only thing you can't do is have an automatic tiling view, but otherwise, at least for me, it has the necessary pixelart tools (dot pen, scaling, pixel eraser).
Clip has a better interface. It is WAY more user friendly, because unlike PS, you don't have to be taught where all the hidden options are, and it's much more customizable. PS presents new users with a knowledge wall that can only be overcome with tuition, help or guidence. This is not the case on Clip. Because none of the options are hidden.
clip studio is way better for animation
hm... i think u need more spend of time for CSP bcs much of ur mention, they had like PS
liquify on CSP is not mesh transform its fingertips n it's same effect but it more advanced bcs u can more advantage the customize the effect
mesh transform is more like addition features bcs PS doesnt had n u can sett up more on the setting section
on CSP blend they had blending, bluring, fingertips (liquify) n there's more sub categories from this 3 to become different effect if u customize it more or u can found it on the assets cloud
they had AI colors too for auto colors for illustration so u can used it too for refference n u can mix with ur own style of illustration n bash it
they had perspective ruler, mirroring n auto blending fill bucket for skin tones n sky n stuff
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they had auto action like macro so if u learn it well u can making something step with this auto action so u're not making from zero
there's bunch of function n features wich PS doesnt had
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n then something like when the process getting auto save recovery/backups u can disable this features on the performance setting
for me the 2 of them is great but there's more advantage features on CSP but u need spend more of times to figures out n customize, n actually the abr brush from PS can be turn to become CSP brush ofc u need to learn ho to change it to become CSP brushes + the assets n brush on the cloud of CSP is grown n grown more n more so u can used abr brushes from PS + u can add more from cloud assets
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i vote for CSP, but there's some huge gap behind them even CSP is kinda be more advantage
that's the color
we know CSP can be switch the colors n we can used the plate of colors from PS too n more advantage, CSP had proximate colors for u know picking up the gradient colors
n CSP is having more layers mode
but the filters for color, like balancing n stuff PS is great, PS is more superb one the color is more like sharp vibes the CSp is kinda more flat well it's my oppinion, usually after im done i'll changin to PS for balance the colors doing filters n stuff rather doing the color balance at CSP
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well actually there's something interesting at cSP performance settings, the had different system for colors rendering maybe there's some setting on this rendering colors option wich has similar render system like PS does so if we used balance colors filter its has the same effect like PS does (not yet to try)
bcs it's kinda be my habbit after done at csp im using PS for balancing colors n some filters that CSP didnt had
bcs ps more vibrant n sharp vibe n something like glossy effects n its more vivid. rather than on CSP its kinda be more flat n soft colors, sometimes if we wanna making something like COPIC colors cSp is the good choices but if we wanna more vibrant n more colorfull PS leading the way
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n on vectors layers CSP has bunch of good features for us like eraser things, pressure things for thick or narrow edge n much more
well if u spend it more to learn the features its awsome
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but i love the 2 of them.
but yeah for price perfo CSP is the winner but if we got 2 of them is superb LOL
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lastly on my oppinion i'm okay with them n both of them can be used for great comics n concept art (its just depend on HOW U USED IT)
tools is not always having advantage its back to the user for how u USED it
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well for me im ok with both of them bcs i'm already used different things too like open canvas medibang SAI jumppaint n gimp
but for corel idk why i can't comfort to used that whatever the version is that corel painter sketch photopaint draw all of their version i can't comfort with them kinda frustrating
the new clip studio has a black interface and their blending tool is 1000 times better. i think we can all agree that adobe is a greedy company. if they actually cared about young and upcoming artist they wouldnt do the whole subscription base bs. they already have tonnes of money but no its not enough for em.
i am a 2d animator and to me clipstudio i better than ps in frame by frame animation
Ps is actually not known for animation cause there after effect illustrator and adobe animator
“Draw?”
Newspaper boy (in old west): “Adobe supporting NFT features! Read all about it!”
“That concludes why Clip Studio Paint wins.”
this is the same like illustrator vs inkscape vs infinity... lets be hones adobe is still no 1.... some programms like clip studio have some more specific features but in the end u still can archive it with adobe too...
note: photoshop has smoothing now
I would use neither, I would use Medibang
all i need to know is that it is competent to adobe paint
I hate the ridiculous Adobe subscription model, so I bought Clip Studio to make drawings and animations and the Affinity Suite for everything else (I mostly use Affinity Photo for photo manipulation, haven't really tried the rest). If I need something simple done quick I usually use Paint. Net (Although Affinity Photo and CSP are technically better, Paint. Net is still faster for really quick simple stuff, and it's free!)
Adobe's bussiness model is abusive and absurd considering you can get similar or even better programs (Both Affinity and CSP have tools Photoshop lacks) for much, much cheaper. The only reason they still get by is because they have a monopoly on professional use, but that's starting to change.
Bro adobe lack tools?
Are you mad
Its only problem is price and it need a high end pc and mac
Its tool are limitless
Photo editing in painting is highly loved by artist today
@@shanchar I said that CSP and Affinity have tools that Photoshop lacks, not that Adobe lacked tools. Adobe also has tools that CSP and Affinity don't have. Adobe has even been adding features that Affinity programs have that they lack lately.
Le fait de ne pas intégrer un "AutoUpdate" dans ClipStudioPaint est une bonne chose... Certaines mise à jours sont bancales, donc mieux avec attendre avant de se jeter dessus.
Photoshop not connecting to anything? Since about 2006 they had Adobe Bridge which acted as the... Well... Bridge between software before the Creative Cloud was introduced. It allowed you to use Photoshop Assets directly in Fuse, Illustrator, lightroom, premier pro, etc.
Also. Photoshop introduced Animation with Photoshop CC. Just saying.
Might be an idea to do more research before recording a video.
I actually like the white theme
espera que esta es la versión en ingles?
si, nuestros reviews, duelos y tutoriales los ponemos siempre en los dos idiomas.
A liquify tool is asking too much? C'mon Celsys
If you can’t draw ( like me ), it does not matter which program you are using.
Corel Painter FTW!!!!!
I see catra in the beginning
I like
Idk why, but CSP feel more realistic