Hey Skeej, you can compact this a bit by reducing the size of the lava farm. A L9 boiler fed with lava will be self-sufficient with 12 cauldrons. They make slightly more than is consumed and will eventually make a surplus.
I just use a lot and store it in one mega tank! Another option is to fill a pit (slowly) with the excess output. Once it reaches a large enough number (10 thousand iirc), it will produce infinite lava via hose pulley!
I also found that the engine size can be reduced to 4 blocks high as you can't get any more power out of it without blaze cakes. The lava bucket system can also be compacted by placing a brass funnel on the side of the bottom depot, filtering the funnel to only accept empty buckets and then have the mechanical arm grab from the depot. This elimates both of the smart chutes and the other depot. You might think this will lead to an issue where it grabs the bucket before it's filled, but the mechanical arms actually have some pretty smart programming and will only grab the bucket if it has lava in it and at least one of the blaze burners need to be fueled. By compacting the engine size, you save on copper and by compacting the lava bucket system you eliminate the cost of iron from the filter part and reduce the electron tube cost to 1 instead of 2.
To answer your curiosity about lava drip stone. Even though flowing lava produces particles, it will in fact NOT drip lava. It DOES require source blocks to actually reproduce the lava.
@@stailbread1 Not true. a source block of lava is required. If you don't beliefe me: go into a creative world, place a dripstone + cauldren under a flowing source and use the command "/gamerule randomtickspeed 3000". This speed up the random ticks. Default is 3. The cauldren will never fill with lava. Replace the flowing lava with a source block and it will take under 10 seconds (give or take, RANDOMtickspeed ;-) ) to fill the cauldren.
For designs post 19.3, it's nice having the lava conversion flag enabled for further significant reduction in the size of that whole array too. Nice design all around. 💯
Awesome tutorial! Just one suggestion, make it a 6 high fluid tank instead of 5. I'm still learing about Create, so I'm not sure why, but the size and water input goes up drastically by making it a 6 tall fluid tank. I just built 3 connecting and it's pushing 393k su's.
okay i had to sub just because of the satisfactoory refrence, i may try for a similar build and schematic it for the schematacannon and use that as my primary create powerplant
@@skeej_inc their could be a way to make it more compact by giving the blaze burners a straw which would then allow them to take the lava directly out of the pipe instead of having to feed them with buckets but I am unsure of how the design would have to change to make use of the straw which causes the blaze inside the blaze burners to put on a drinking hat as well as I believe also giving the player an achievement for doing so
Love the design as well as the mod. When I made this myself I found that when I set the rotational speed controller to max, it overtaxed the system. If this happens to anyone else set the speed too 200 and it will work again. Getting 147,000 odd out of it.😊
I'll have to build a few of these at some point. Pretty easy to make all things considered. It's just a lotta lava really but even that should be pretty easy to gather
Just a little thing I wanted to point out, if you really want to maximize the amount of SU you get from this design you can use encased chain drives instead of belts to combine everything. This is because belts consume a small amount of SU to just have them running, wheras encased chain drives do not.
Belts only consume SU in older versions, (0.3 and below i believe) which I’m using the newest update (0.5 Rise and shine update) so this doesn’t affect the design
Something I found is that you can use windmills instead of large water wheels to power the boiler. This is mainly useful for those who aren't using the newest version. Although, it does seem to make it less tileable if you're using the windmills.
Engine size max for L9 is 3x3x4 as you can't get any more power without blaze cakes, about 12 or 16 cauldrons should be enough I think as we get excess as it goes on and I don't think 256 rpm is needed for the arm and pumps, you can find a sweet spot by trying it out in a creative world. Just my suggestion. 😉
I have a 32-boiler/cylinder engine about that size, actually probably smaller, that produces about 500kSU under lava power. Uses addons Create and Create Crafts and Additions. The key is not one big boiler, but many small boilers, all individually supplied with water, and powered directly by lava-fueled blaze burners. It runs the water pumps using auxiliary waterwheels.
i built a very horizontally compact engine setup for a server i was playing on (the engines went inside a structure that the base was centered around) and i ended up with a decent self sustaining engine. granted, of course, it will stop if you reset a server, but otherwise it runs indefinitely. its just 4 lvl 4 steam engines powered by lava. It is really tall; i built it partially in a crater from a mod i was playing with. but everything, lava source, water, engines, all fits in about a 9x9 space (excluding vertical height). i cant quite recall how much SU it made but it was in the range of 420,000 SU and served me well enough until i began making larger factories and connected a lot of alternators to power machines from other mods.
With create crafts and additions, you can eliminate the bucket mechanic entirely because the blaze burners can have straws. just pump the lava directly into them. even so this is really cool and I wanna try it to power the andesite alloy maker you made! LOL
Bugger i legit just finished my this morning, was based off your old design but for some reason (aesthetics) i made it a level 9 too. figured it out, app apparently i added to many cauldrons tho. but i can get 2 in one chunk with the lava in the middle.
Thank you so much, this is exactly what im looking for in my world. I have one question, how many SU does to take to run it? I know you are using 5 large water wheels, but im playing a modpack that makes large water wheels extremely expensive, and im trying to figure out a slightly alternate design to get the first module running until I can afford more large water wheels. Esp since it looks like you arent getting the max SU out of them since its just water on top instead of all the way around
@@oPlazmaMC Correct Snoob8, it takes that exact amount of stress to run everything connected. You get the "perfectly stressed" achievement after making that work.
Hey, awesomd video, its very well done and ive watched some of your other vidoes and found them helpful as i try learn create One question: how would i connect other machines to it? I dont know where id even need to connect them 😅
other machines can be connected with shafts and cogs going from the steam engines on top of the tank :)) just make sure not to connect them to anything from the lower half of the engine
I thought that lava gen with dripstone was a joke but turns its actually a minecraft thing when not modding. But I had to use a Magma Crucible that makes 1 bucket worth of lava from one cobblestone
Makes sense (: And, who needs space! (Looks at his small build that has no walking room due to pipes and such… maybe it can go there? Or there?…)@@skeej_inc
I'm playing Create Astral, which has Create version 0.5.0. The large water wheel was introduced in Create version 0.5.1. Is there a way of building this with water wheels instead of large water wheels?
The steam engines provide the output power. That's what you send out to other machines and contraptions. The speed controller just balances power and speed from the auxiliary water wheels so the pumps and arms can move water and lava. Tapping that auxiliary power for other things may cause the steam engines to shut down for lack of fluids.
11:18 To connect the water wheels, you can use either encased chain drives or belts and shafts. Then add a gearbox at the end to connect the water wheels to the rotation speed controller. Using belts and shafts is much cheaper
so yes it is common to use water wheels of various sizes to power the water. If you are bothering to build a steam engine why not use another steam engine? I mean a basic passive steam engine has 2048 SU and no fuel requirements. Needs only a single lava or a campfire to heat it. It is also only a 2x2x1. Certainly one should be able to design such a thing.
If you dont mind adding some addons for create i would highly suggest adding the mod The factory must grow as it adds generators and 1 diesel generator is a lot better than a 2x2 steam engine as it produces around 17k power (the steam engine makes 15k power) and it is also REALLY SMALL especialy the diesel one as you can make a 1x2x3 tiny machine that has 6 diesel generators that conbined make a bit more that 107k power
I really don't understand why you can't just pipe into the blaze burners so dumb honestly have to set up a whole contraption just for it to right click and also put buckets back bruh
Update after several upon several hours I found out another way you can have a deployer poke the mechanical arm which will grab the bucket now the deployer can not can not have a filter on it once the deployer grabs the bucket you can put a chute below it with then you can put on to one belt that another mechanical arm grabs that bucket puts it on the depo the bucket fills with lava and the it will pick it up and the other mechanical arm will right click a blaze burner and it will go forever sounds complicated but was way simpler for me anyway
Using external power - wheels to power engine, quite dissapointing. Crank start up is not that hard to do. You can do ^ shape with dripstone and lava to reduce pipe amount, More sides with water = much more power, you are wasting space with extra wheels tbh, its pointless to tile with these engines, only 1 is ever needed
Hey Skeej, you can compact this a bit by reducing the size of the lava farm. A L9 boiler fed with lava will be self-sufficient with 12 cauldrons. They make slightly more than is consumed and will eventually make a surplus.
11 I think
tbh i usually use 14 just because it is better to be safe than sorry especially cause i like not having to babysit my steam engines lol
I just use a lot and store it in one mega tank!
Another option is to fill a pit (slowly) with the excess output. Once it reaches a large enough number (10 thousand iirc), it will produce infinite lava via hose pulley!
I also found that the engine size can be reduced to 4 blocks high as you can't get any more power out of it without blaze cakes.
The lava bucket system can also be compacted by placing a brass funnel on the side of the bottom depot, filtering the funnel to only accept empty buckets and then have the mechanical arm grab from the depot. This elimates both of the smart chutes and the other depot. You might think this will lead to an issue where it grabs the bucket before it's filled, but the mechanical arms actually have some pretty smart programming and will only grab the bucket if it has lava in it and at least one of the blaze burners need to be fueled.
By compacting the engine size, you save on copper and by compacting the lava bucket system you eliminate the cost of iron from the filter part and reduce the electron tube cost to 1 instead of 2.
@@ethanbrandt8617 Well, that mechanical arm thing...isn't the case for me, it just loops grabbing the bucket and placing it back
To answer your curiosity about lava drip stone. Even though flowing lava produces particles, it will in fact NOT drip lava. It DOES require source blocks to actually reproduce the lava.
no, even flowing can
@@stailbread1 Not true. a source block of lava is required. If you don't beliefe me: go into a creative world, place a dripstone + cauldren under a flowing source and use the command "/gamerule randomtickspeed 3000". This speed up the random ticks. Default is 3. The cauldren will never fill with lava. Replace the flowing lava with a source block and it will take under 10 seconds (give or take, RANDOMtickspeed ;-) ) to fill the cauldren.
False if you are playing past 1.20+, tested this in a 1.20 world and it is false but I believe this may be true in 1.19.2 world.
@@TDEnderPlayz yeah last time i tested was back when lava dripping was first added, whatever version that was.
@@schoktra 🫡🫡🫡
Nice to see you doing more tutorials, we missed you
For designs post 19.3, it's nice having the lava conversion flag enabled for further significant reduction in the size of that whole array too. Nice design all around. 💯
Awesome tutorial! Just one suggestion, make it a 6 high fluid tank instead of 5. I'm still learing about Create, so I'm not sure why, but the size and water input goes up drastically by making it a 6 tall fluid tank. I just built 3 connecting and it's pushing 393k su's.
Very nice and clean design, the water source can be made to fit within the border without spilling out if using waterlogged stairs 🙂👍
I am older now and kinda fell out of love with Minecraft but you make it so much cooler and fun to learn with create
you have no idea how how lucky I am, I was just about to make a steam boiler but I didnt know how to design it, until this tutorial.
okay i had to sub just because of the satisfactoory refrence, i may try for a similar build and schematic it for the schematacannon and use that as my primary create powerplant
Thanks for a good, easy and straight to the point tutorial, now rocking a steam engine in my base :)
Glad to hear it! Now you know how they work you can work towards that crispy level 18 boiler using blaze burners 😎
@@skeej_inc their could be a way to make it more compact by giving the blaze burners a straw which would then allow them to take the lava directly out of the pipe instead of having to feed them with buckets but I am unsure of how the design would have to change to make use of the straw which causes the blaze inside the blaze burners to put on a drinking hat as well as I believe also giving the player an achievement for doing so
Love the design as well as the mod. When I made this myself I found that when I set the rotational speed controller to max, it overtaxed the system. If this happens to anyone else set the speed too 200 and it will work again. Getting 147,000 odd out of it.😊
I'll have to build a few of these at some point. Pretty easy to make all things considered. It's just a lotta lava really but even that should be pretty easy to gather
Just a little thing I wanted to point out, if you really want to maximize the amount of SU you get from this design you can use encased chain drives instead of belts to combine everything. This is because belts consume a small amount of SU to just have them running, wheras encased chain drives do not.
Belts only consume SU in older versions, (0.3 and below i believe) which I’m using the newest update (0.5 Rise and shine update) so this doesn’t affect the design
Water
Built this and working perfectly thank you 😊
Something I found is that you can use windmills instead of large water wheels to power the boiler. This is mainly useful for those who aren't using the newest version. Although, it does seem to make it less tileable if you're using the windmills.
i can confirm it needs to be a source block i am just starting create now, and had to replace flowing with source blocks for a simmilar system
Engine size max for L9 is 3x3x4 as you can't get any more power without blaze cakes, about 12 or 16 cauldrons should be enough I think as we get excess as it goes on and I don't think 256 rpm is needed for the arm and pumps, you can find a sweet spot by trying it out in a creative world. Just my suggestion. 😉
I have a 32-boiler/cylinder engine about that size, actually probably smaller, that produces about 500kSU under lava power. Uses addons Create and Create Crafts and Additions.
The key is not one big boiler, but many small boilers, all individually supplied with water, and powered directly by lava-fueled blaze burners. It runs the water pumps using auxiliary waterwheels.
Thank you! I finally got rid of all the water wheels lol
i built a very horizontally compact engine setup for a server i was playing on (the engines went inside a structure that the base was centered around) and i ended up with a decent self sustaining engine. granted, of course, it will stop if you reset a server, but otherwise it runs indefinitely. its just 4 lvl 4 steam engines powered by lava. It is really tall; i built it partially in a crater from a mod i was playing with. but everything, lava source, water, engines, all fits in about a 9x9 space (excluding vertical height). i cant quite recall how much SU it made but it was in the range of 420,000 SU and served me well enough until i began making larger factories and connected a lot of alternators to power machines from other mods.
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bro the satisfactory theme looks sick af
RIP CTS, wish i took schematics before it shut down
With create crafts and additions, you can eliminate the bucket mechanic entirely because the blaze burners can have straws. just pump the lava directly into them. even so this is really cool and I wanna try it to power the andesite alloy maker you made! LOL
I just put a clutch on the output which engages when the system overstresses with a toggle latch. And I put a handcrank starter just in case
If you're a stickler for area use 3 stairs to hold the water pumped into the tank
Bugger i legit just finished my this morning, was based off your old design but for some reason (aesthetics) i made it a level 9 too. figured it out, app apparently i added to many cauldrons tho. but i can get 2 in one chunk with the lava in the middle.
maybe by the time youve built the rest of my farms you'll need another steam engine 👀👀
Can u make a tutorial on the tripple engine at 12:04? It looks sick and I want to recreate it in my own survival world :D
Muy buen contenido me sorprende lo fantasticamente comprimido y utiles que pueden ser tus creacriones en create mod
can you make a super steam boiler with level 3 blaze burners and a fully automated blaze cake factory as well
Thank you so much, this is exactly what im looking for in my world. I have one question, how many SU does to take to run it? I know you are using 5 large water wheels, but im playing a modpack that makes large water wheels extremely expensive, and im trying to figure out a slightly alternate design to get the first module running until I can afford more large water wheels. Esp since it looks like you arent getting the max SU out of them since its just water on top instead of all the way around
Well, 5 water wheels produce 5x512 SU = 2560 SU. And because it is perfectly stressed, we can assume that the machine uses 2560 SU.
@@oPlazmaMC Correct Snoob8, it takes that exact amount of stress to run everything connected. You get the "perfectly stressed" achievement after making that work.
How do I make I look nice with a building around it what was the block pallet? You have a video on it?
Hey, awesomd video, its very well done and ive watched some of your other vidoes and found them helpful as i try learn create
One question: how would i connect other machines to it? I dont know where id even need to connect them 😅
other machines can be connected with shafts and cogs going from the steam engines on top of the tank :)) just make sure not to connect them to anything from the lower half of the engine
I thought that lava gen with dripstone was a joke but turns its actually a minecraft thing when not modding.
But I had to use a Magma Crucible that makes 1 bucket worth of lava from one cobblestone
Very nice but where is the schematic ?would be very nice😊
And im pretty sure that you dont need source block for the dripstone to work
Out of curiosity @skeej, is there a reason you don’t make buffer tanks to store excess water and lava?
mostly to compact down the size, but worth doing if you dont care about space :))
Makes sense (:
And, who needs space! (Looks at his small build that has no walking room due to pipes and such… maybe it can go there? Or there?…)@@skeej_inc
Great tutorial, one question though, if i wanna connect other machines like, mechanical press or a millstone, how can i connect those to this system?
You connect them to the engine on top of the tank, make sure not to connect the bottom to the top, then you risk breaking it if it overstresses
Would you perchance make this into a schematic if possible
very nice
Will you ever post schematic files?
is there a schematic for it?
why use an item transport system instead of pumping the fluid directly into the blaze burners
I'm playing Create Astral, which has Create version 0.5.0. The large water wheel was introduced in Create version 0.5.1. Is there a way of building this with water wheels instead of large water wheels?
You could put 10 regular water wheels, so long as you are generating the required SU.
if you have project e yo place pedestal whith clock 5 is insta lava
why dont lava farm work with basins
maybe i just play on different versions of create but you can feed the blaze burners lava directly with straws
yeah, i know you can, but this was designed for vanilla create with no extra mods
Thats the crafts and additions add on mod
so wait do i take the power out of the speed controller or the actual steam enginees up top?
The steam engines provide the output power. That's what you send out to other machines and contraptions.
The speed controller just balances power and speed from the auxiliary water wheels so the pumps and arms can move water and lava. Tapping that auxiliary power for other things may cause the steam engines to shut down for lack of fluids.
11:18 To connect the water wheels, you can use either encased chain drives or belts and shafts. Then add a gearbox at the end to connect the water wheels to the rotation speed controller. Using belts and shafts is much cheaper
I think he was going more for a style thing with that. Since Belts wouldn't fit the "palette" back there.
love it, only question, does this design still work in 1.20.1?
I know I'm a bit late, but yes
so yes it is common to use water wheels of various sizes to power the water. If you are bothering to build a steam engine why not use another steam engine? I mean a basic passive steam engine has 2048 SU and no fuel requirements. Needs only a single lava or a campfire to heat it. It is also only a 2x2x1. Certainly one should be able to design such a thing.
if flowing lava worked I wonder if you could stack the water wheels ontop of the lava instead of using water
flowing lava does power waterwheels! that way you can use them in the nether, i didnt think about that when designing this to be fair...
there are tips on improvement. also I made a smaller one.
Can u give us schematics for schematicannon?
Schematic?
😅 is it possible you can make a redstone Farm
I just hand cranked mine till it was able to power itself
Adding "design overflaw" to my dictionary :)
If you dont mind adding some addons for create i would highly suggest adding the mod
The factory must grow
as it adds generators and 1 diesel generator is a lot better than a 2x2 steam engine as it produces around 17k power (the steam engine makes 15k power) and it is also REALLY SMALL especialy the diesel one as you can make a 1x2x3 tiny machine that has 6 diesel generators that conbined make a bit more that 107k power
Sounds overpowered
Who is the person with the same name as me?
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So weird seeing your skin blue and healthy.
Its okay, its just paint, the fungus is still under there
I really don't understand why you can't just pipe into the blaze burners so dumb honestly have to set up a whole contraption just for it to right click and also put buckets back bruh
Update after several upon several hours I found out another way you can have a deployer poke the mechanical arm which will grab the bucket now the deployer can not can not have a filter on it once the deployer grabs the bucket you can put a chute below it with then you can put on to one belt that another mechanical arm grabs that bucket puts it on the depo the bucket fills with lava and the it will pick it up and the other mechanical arm will right click a blaze burner and it will go forever sounds complicated but was way simpler for me anyway
Oh my god Skeej what happened to you
Your mom
I prefer the original design, stopping is for cowards. real men carry on and never give.
Using external power - wheels to power engine, quite dissapointing.
Crank start up is not that hard to do.
You can do ^ shape with dripstone and lava to reduce pipe amount,
More sides with water = much more power, you are wasting space with extra wheels
tbh, its pointless to tile with these engines,
only 1 is ever needed
If you can do better dont leave a shitty comment ❤️ its a waste of both your and my time
This isn't even correct. the large wheels don't care. Im pretty sure the small wheels are only affected by orientation and bubbles.
hey! i repeat my question :3
Are you furry? 🙃😊
yes but no, somewhere inbetween, i have the lizard OC and stuff, but i dont directly engage with the fandom
@@skeej_inc Uuu okey thank for answer 🥰😊
@@skeej_inc so your a zoan type user? Nice