Create is honestly, in my opinion backed by a little under 10 years of playing modded, by far the most well made and enjoyable mod to play with, i havent played vanilla in years but now if i want to go play vanilla what i actually do is play vanilla+ with just a few handpicked mods that i have fallen in love with, create being at the top of the list. The mod creator did a fantastic job and i wish the absolute mad lad has all their dreams come true bc they deserve it
@@fishyfinthing8854 hard no... as awsome as create is it needs to stay 100% a mod and not ever be added to vanilla minecraft bc mojang would 100% ruin it and create would then be ruined in all future versions aswell plus mojang already gets away with more than enough of stealing mod content to add in updates and managing to still fuck it up
The lava farm does need sources, but you can use virtually any solid block under the lava, not just the dripstone block. It's actually just the pointed dripstone doing the work, not the block.
@@Trenty_Boi You still need a solid block under the lava source, and then the pointed dripstone on the bottom of that solid block. You can use anything non-flammable on the sides of the lava sources to hold it in. Just to reiterate, you basically do exactly what he did in the video, but the dripstone "blocks", not the "pointed" dripstone, can be pretty much any non-flammable block.
I think that tree farm is more expensive option, because when you have blaze burners, one brass funnel isn't that hard. And tree farm requires deployers to replant trees.
I tried a simple two block long radial tree farm once, it could not keep up with a single blaze burner with a 4 tall boiler above it, even if the wood was turned into charcoal.
For those struggling at 13:02, you will need to have a brass casing as the block. So first, on the same level of the copper pipe that feeds the steam engine water, place a LARGE cogwheel, and this is FIRST. After that you get your brass casing and place it ON the cogwheel you just placed, it should sort of become a combination of the two blocks. Next put the small cogwheel diagonally and another large cogwheel under that. Finally put another small cogwheel diagonally, this should end up right under the brass casing/cogwheel combination from earlier, and one more small cogwheel next to that. The reason why this may have not worked at first, and why it didn't work for me despite having the exact same blocks, is because you had to do the cogwheel and casing FIRST, as in break the smaller cogwheel underneath. If the small wheel is there, or gets placed first, the brass encased large cogwheel will connect to it and that's what breaks the steam engine.
@@dejojotheawsome in vanilla you can fully automate kelp farms all the way to making then craft their own dried kelp blocks, so I fear what create can do
15:50 for the netherrack, you could use a threshold switch (or whatever it was called) to turn on some kind of warning (e.g. if you have a control room for your base it could be a redstone lamp there) when the netherrack runs low.
I love playing with Immersive Engineering and Create Crafts & additions, it adds a way to directly upgrade blaze burners to being able to feed them with biodiesel with Create Pipes and superheats them.
from my experience, you don't need the dripstone blocks, just the dripstones itself are enough. and as long as its not possible to fully automate blazecakes (=generating netherack), i'll stick to using a lvl9 one and add another one if needed. more expensive to build but runs forever (unless you overstress it, but thats why you use a stressmeter)
You don’t need to automate it though? Unless you plan on spending maybe 400+ hours in one world. 2 double chests of netherrack takes the same amount of time to gather as a farm would imo, and thats 400hrs of fuel right there
@@ruberine2086still better just to built 2 lvl 9 as there isnt any advantage whatsoever to lvl 18 boilers. Literally all you save is 9 blaze burners in construction. And you can make 2 lvl9 boilers much more compact
I am actually getting into the create mod again (I played it 2 times prior but returning to it) thank you for this! Your videos are informative and I enjoy the mostly uncut content as well as saying your thought process aloud, earned a sub from this minecraft veteran
you don’t have to use the drip stone blocks just pointed drip stone btw :) you could have glass or stone or whatever non flammable block there as long as the point is there
Thanks! I'm currently playing "Forever Factory" on Curseforge, where you build one single interconnected factory and keep adding onto it instead of building multiple factories and connecting them together. The modpack lets you do wireless create stress on channels, so I wanted a great way to power a single wireless channel and this looks to be it!
Yeah one of the common add ons makes it possible to generate netherrack by pouring healing potions on cobblestone, which makes a top tier steam engine an insanely complicated but very satisfying setup. You need a Melon Farm, Netherrack Farm, and a gold farm, which itself is a whole project on its own, then of course you need to farm chickens for the eggs and sugarcane, and then you can finally have all that feed into making blaze cakes infinitely in a massive factory sized engine. On the plus side tho you do get a healing potion farm out of it among other things.
thanks so much for the video I didn't know steam engine would be that much given power ! besides that, you can craft netherrack without going in the nether at all (well, it's nicer to go in the nether since it's faster to get netherrack like that). so, if you're on a server that deactivated nether, here's how, with Create: - gunpowder = either mob farm, OR crush creeperhead OR wash crushed raw zinc (the other method require sulphur from nether) - quartz: crush diorite OR crush prismarine crystals OR wash crushed gold ore - netherrack = compact in a bassin (gravel, gunpowder, quartz, clay)
Great tutorial, I learned a lot about Create steam engines! Working on a public use blaze cake factory that "sells" blaze cakes for 2 netherrack a piece
Thanks for this video. I've seen videos about self-sustaining steam engines, but they all just built it and that's cool, but I prefer being able to understand what's happening lol. Now I'll be able to try and design my own.
i knew most of this but i hadn’t considered blaze cake automation!! it sounds silly but i usually use a tier 9 steam engine to power most of my stuff and i prefer just making another one as expanding up REALLY has drawbacks when you put steam engines under your base.. seeing that it makes almost 300,000 su i might consider it! also some packs and create addons make it so you can farm cinder flour, the one i remember is spouting redstone on cinder flour
If I'm honest, with the most recent create version, I see two level 9's compared to a maxer being more efficient anyways, possibly even space wise, considering a max level boiler puts out as much as two 9's... that, and you dont have to make blaze cakes, just lava or even wood if you wanted, youd also have to spend the same amount of resources building a max level instead of two 9's anyways, the only thing you'd have to use more of is blaze burners, but those aren't too hard to get really
RETRACTION: I wrote this before finishing watching the video (like an idiot) and henceforth retract this statement... must be an addon that I've been using (I've only played Create in modpacks made by friends) ~I believe that vanilla create can allow for cinder flour to be renewable as well... but it isn't as efficient... something to do with when crushing Netherrack there is a 50% chance to get 1 extra cinder flour, and if you do cobble, lava, and cinder flour you can make Netherrack, so that means that for every two Netherrack you crush on average, you can get one extra cinder flour. Again... not the most efficient thing... but technically plausible... however I do not know if that's a standard Create thing or a result of an add-on... so if this is misinformation do let me know, and don't quote me on this, XD~
Thanks a lot for this tutorial, I didn't realize how early these are to setup.. that you could feed blaze with lava.. And most importantly i've never used the mechanical arm because I assumed they were as basic/limited as a factorio inserter. I had no idea they could target so freely.. create is so powerful! Dripstone lava farms don't need dripstone -blocks-, any block that will hold the pointed dripstone stalactites (10 block long max) should work. It checks two blocks above the topmost pointed dripstone and looks for a cauldron up to 10 blocks below the tip. There is no advantage to having a longer than 1 block pointed dripstone. It is of course random chance based on world ticks and dice rolls, but on average 1 tip will make just over 1 lava every day (19 minutes~). Any furnace fuel can be used in blaze burners for its usual time, so since lava lasts 1,000 seconds, you would need an average of 1.2~ cauldrons per blaze spawner (so 11+) to keep them more or less on; (char)coal would be 15/day/blaze(135). For you psychopaths out there, dried kelp blocks would be 6/day/blaze aka 486 kelp. Arms don't refill blaze unless the blaze has less than 500 seconds of time left but the blaze can hold up to 10,000 seconds without waste; so It Just Works™. Blaze cakes are 160s so need 7.5/day/blaze (67.5/day flour/eggs/sugar for the full 9) but will not overfeed the blaze. Every heat source except -heated/superheated- (not cold) blaze provides the same passive 0 heat value, heated is 1, and super is 2. For water you need 10mb/t/level: Passive=1x20rpm pump, Heated=1x180rpm pump, Super=2x180rpm pumps. Water is not stored anywhere, so overfilling the steam tank provides no benefit. Maxed tank level is 18 at 294,912su requiring 18 engines at 16,384su each to make use of. Engines are all separate generators so one getting overstressed doesn't inherently make all the others stop too. Random sidenote but the wiki page for encased fans has a ton of interesting knowledge.
If you are using the Create: Liquid Fuel mod you can pump lava directly into the blaze burners. Found this out playing on Beardstone's Perfect World pack.
Better option to feed the blaze burners is to use straws (part of the Create Crafts & Additions add on), and fluid pipes. It allows the blaze burners to take from the pipes connected to them. So instead I use a 2 stage pump system. One pump pulls from the lava farm into a fluid tank for lava. The second pump pulls from the lava tank to the blaze burners. I use clutches and switches so I can turn on and off the feed pump so if I want to the steam engine to shut down I can disable the transfer pump from the tank to build up a supply of lava to use when I need the steam engine running. The pump from the lava farm to the fluid pump is driven by a water wheel so it constantly pumps out any collected lava to the storage tank. The water wheel/lava pump combo is also connected to the engine as well with a clutch, so I can use the water wheel to jump start the steam engine to get some rotation in to start up the water pump connected to the steam engine and the feed pump from the tank to the blaze burners.
what my buddy did on our modded server was set up the infinite automatic lava first. it pumped into a giant tank. then the tank fed the blaze burners in the same way you did. he also had a water tank supplying water as well. he considered the blaze cakes but figure lava was more than enough power for a whole base. there's also a mod that adds compatibility between create and immersive engineering.
Yes, I really prefer this style of tutorial! I was having many improvement ideas throughout the latter part of the video. Teach a man to fish, and all! You have earned my subscription, as well as my recommendations. I just wish I knew more Create creators. I suspect Tango of the tech variety may have been influenced by you as well. Just a feeling I have.
It really is nice, i prefer pairing create with other mods that allow me to farm any material infinitely (such as mystical agriculture) bc i personally dont enjoy mining or hand farming materials past the early game, i like to automate everything to the point that i could afk indefinitely without any part of my factory stalling
i would be so lost without your instructions of this mod. i cant tell you how much help you are with just two vidieos of yours i can say i learned enough to where i was able to build something way more functional.
Form of this videos is brilliant, as you said, teaching how the machine works, thank you for not making us watch you place blocks, I'm so glad I found your channel
Find a sufficiently large whole in the overworld, use a hose pulley to fill up the hole from your lava gen. Once you have enough lava, reverse your pump and you'll be pumping an infinite lava source.
you need 10k Lava sources for the lake to be considered infinite. That takes A WHILE with an automatic lava farm. Given that the average time for a cauldron to get filled by drip stone is 19 minutes (according to the minecraft wiki) even with the 20 cauldrons that are running here it would take 150 hours 20 minutes on average (not counting time for setup) just to generate the lava needed to create an infinite source. At that point it would probably be faster going to the Nether, finding an infinite lake, setting up an infinite pump there, bring a bunch of tanks and then run 1250 filled create tanks (or comparatively larger ones from other mods if you have access to them for fewer trips) and create your lake that way
personally I like setting up an automatic train to keep bringing lava from an infinite source in the nether to the overworld to create infinite sources since it's much much faster
@@ThisIsMego Why don't use a train ;) A train assembled with a tank can transport the lava trough a portal and bring it to the overworld. No need to carry so much stuff by your own. It is a process to get to trains, but it is really funny to have such a "lake " of infinite supply.
I’m trying to make a self sufficient power plant with create: New age and I was having a bit of trouble getting the engine running but this video really helped.
Steam Engines notably overstress individually, so if you don't mind wasting most of the 16k SU the one engine produces, you can have single separate engine feeding water and fuel, and no matter what happens to the other engines (assuming the fuel holds up), the engine keeps running. You can also use the "wasted" SU to run 2nd to 4th additional boilers, if you want to.
I am not sure if this has been brought up within the comments (i'm disinclined to acquiesce towards reading more than one or two comments, myself), but there are ways of utilizing infinite lava sources. I may be out of date, as this feature may have been disabled or the requirements may have changed, but as I recall you only around 100 lava source blocks to constitute an infinite supply. You could have the cauldrons pump a percentage of their supply into a prepared space and, once it fills, change your system to feed from there rather than the cauldrons which can then be torn down and moved to another project. Enjoyed your video, looking forward to browsing the rest of your content and see if there are some things I haven't discovered as of yet. Such as the blaze cake, that was a wonderful little nugget I managed to miss!
this will be useful, i even have an idea to make the lava farm more reliable in the event the generator over stresses, multiple lava farms stockpiling lava in a tank
Yes, you can automate netherrack. You can turn cinderflour back into netherrack with lava and cobble. It's a pain but it can be automated and come out netherrack positive since you have that 50% chance of 2.
Am I dumb or did he not mention the tiny fact that you need to go to the Nether and capture blazes inside the blaze burners?? That seems like a pretty HUGE fact to leave out.
This is my first time with this mod and I experimented around with the small design trying to get it to make more SU and I found that by replacing the 4 corner campfires of the 3x3 design with blaze burners you can keep the engine going even after the 4 blaze burners run out of fuel, was getting around 16k SU output with fuel, and 2048 without, idk how good that is but it sped up the crafting of the crusher wheels for me by a lot.
I'm pretty sure you can use bamboo to power blaze burners instead of buckets of lava or a tree farm. A bamboo farm is very easy to make. Though you would probably want a stockpile switch to stop the farm from producing too much bamboo
Netherrack doesn't really need automation, even if you have an iron pickaxe a bit of efficiency can make netherrack insta-mined, so you can get a lot of it quickly and forget about it. Then you could make a notification system that idk turns on some lamps or smth when the amount of netherrack is low.
Btw I noticed something. In the second solution(lava farm) the mechanical arm moves too fast, it just takes the empty bucket. Probably it could be fixed with a different solution, not using the power from the steam engine. Really good vid, I learned a lot. Thanks!
Okay so blaze burners aren't that difficult, but he does leave out the fact that netherrack and iron sheets make an empty blaze burner and you then have to proceed to travel to the nether and capture live blazes
I just realized that you can add a cogwheel on a different side of the water pump and connect a crank to it, and you can restart the boiler at any time, without using a windmill.
Honestly, you don't need the steam engine on top. You need it attached to the boiler. So you can have it sideways very easily, and in fact for larger engines having all the arms on one side is highly recommended. Plus, it makes it easier to expand as you don't have things on top of the boiler blocking you from placing more tanks.
Yes, he was just doing a small demonstration. He wasnt going out of his way to make it efficient or anything, just messing around to show how it all works
I like to use water wheels to power the water input and other inputs, since waterwheels are nice and cheap and don't shut off when the boiler overstresses or runs out of fuel.
I can't tell the mechanical arm to target the brass funnel. I hold shift, ctrl, left-click, right-click. no matter what I do it cant target it, it only places it down. EDIT: you have to shift-place the brass funnel to make it an input funnel. Now my mechanical arm is snatching the empty bucket from the depot before the spout can finish filling it. I dont understand what you did to make it wait for the lava bucket to fill EDIT: Yeah it seems there was an update that made mechanical arms dumber. I got around this by adding an extra depot and an extra funnel. arm places empty bucket in input funnel, input funnel puts it in depot 1, spout fills empty bucket with lava in depot 1, output funnel puts the full lava bucket in depot 2 (which is 1 block lower and one block to the side of depot 1), arm takes it from depot 2, repeat). The plus side is you can have 2 buckets in the system using this method which means the mechanical arm has 0 down time.
Add a buffer for the lava. Make the lava go into a big container so there's lava piled up already ready to be used so you don't have to wait for lava to go through the pipes from a single cauldron
Messed around with steam engines yesterday and this popped up. Whilst messing around I accidentally made a max level steam engine, producing ~110,000su. I hooked it up to a generator to produce electricity. Create is amazing 😅
Alternative to a tree farm perhaps a kelp farm since chutes drop the output from furnaces and then can be packed automatically on a mechanical press that both feeds itself as well as excess dried kelp to power the engine unless a bamboo farm is used to cook the kelp which seems a little excessive at that point but idk. 👀
@ldeoliveira755 I just made a waterwheel power the mechanical arm and because the waterwheel is slow it works fine. Kinda annoying that I have to do that though...
the problem with having the steam engine power it's own water pump is that if you overstress it and it shuts off, you now have to go and start it all over again manually from scratch, and you'll usually also have to disconnect all your equipment from it as the hand crank doesn't create enough SU to power more then really just that pump
“And if you want a tree farm tutorial, ask” Well, I’m asking! I have some concepts, but would love more information, ranging from an auto-cutting but no deployer, to fully automated! As well as how to set up the auto-charcoal!
So these tutorials are amazing I have been wanting to make a really big factory sometime I just didn't know where to start so now that I have a better idea of what to do I hope I can eventually show my big factory either chocolate factory or fruit factory if u can or whatever I come up with idk yet but it's going to be really big an amazing when I can show it
I just made my first steam engine believing they were late game stuff but it's really simple I could have made one from day 3... sooo many waterwheels and sails for nothing
Don’t know if anyone know this but you can use a straw on a blaze burner to make it accept fluids,then make a ton of bioethanol and you have superheated blaze burners for days
I went through all the effort to create myself infinite lava pool but due to some bug or mistake it is not an infinite source so I'm considering switching to charcoal method, more consistant than waiting for lava if it decided to mess up. Oh and I had one of the addon that lets blaze burner use a straw... blaze cake get overwritten so now I see why (Context: the straw allows blaze burners to drink lava directly from the pipes)
I learnt recently by accident while experimenting with create that you can generate netherack by haunting soul sand so if u have a cobble gen milling gravel then mill gravel to sand then haunt sand then haunt the soul sand you get netherack. :)
the guy who created this mod has done an amazing job. i used to be a huge fan of the old industrial craft and this is my new favorite mod.
Create is an absolutely stellar mod!
Create is honestly, in my opinion backed by a little under 10 years of playing modded, by far the most well made and enjoyable mod to play with, i havent played vanilla in years but now if i want to go play vanilla what i actually do is play vanilla+ with just a few handpicked mods that i have fallen in love with, create being at the top of the list. The mod creator did a fantastic job and i wish the absolute mad lad has all their dreams come true bc they deserve it
If his stuff is such a game changer in experience, his mod may deserve to be in vanilla MC.
@@fishyfinthing8854 hard no... as awsome as create is it needs to stay 100% a mod and not ever be added to vanilla minecraft bc mojang would 100% ruin it and create would then be ruined in all future versions aswell plus mojang already gets away with more than enough of stealing mod content to add in updates and managing to still fuck it up
@@dejojotheawsomehow do you the gearshift thingy
The lava farm does need sources, but you can use virtually any solid block under the lava, not just the dripstone block. It's actually just the pointed dripstone doing the work, not the block.
How would one get the lava into the place it needs to go then?
@@Trenty_Boi You still need a solid block under the lava source, and then the pointed dripstone on the bottom of that solid block. You can use anything non-flammable on the sides of the lava sources to hold it in.
Just to reiterate, you basically do exactly what he did in the video, but the dripstone "blocks", not the "pointed" dripstone, can be pretty much any non-flammable block.
Came here to say this.
You also don't need an air block between the pointed dripstone and the cauldron if you want to save a block of vertical space.
I think that tree farm is more expensive option, because when you have blaze burners, one brass funnel isn't that hard. And tree farm requires deployers to replant trees.
Well you only need 2
You will need alot of cauldrons to fill the lava, that's alot of iron
@@RamonEggerink i don't know about others but i usually make small iron farm before building boilers.
@@RamonEggerinkjust make an easy iron farm
I tried a simple two block long radial tree farm once, it could not keep up with a single blaze burner with a 4 tall boiler above it, even if the wood was turned into charcoal.
For those struggling at 13:02, you will need to have a brass casing as the block. So first, on the same level of the copper pipe that feeds the steam engine water, place a LARGE cogwheel, and this is FIRST. After that you get your brass casing and place it ON the cogwheel you just placed, it should sort of become a combination of the two blocks. Next put the small cogwheel diagonally and another large cogwheel under that. Finally put another small cogwheel diagonally, this should end up right under the brass casing/cogwheel combination from earlier, and one more small cogwheel next to that. The reason why this may have not worked at first, and why it didn't work for me despite having the exact same blocks, is because you had to do the cogwheel and casing FIRST, as in break the smaller cogwheel underneath. If the small wheel is there, or gets placed first, the brass encased large cogwheel will connect to it and that's what breaks the steam engine.
i did this and it still isnt going as fast as he did it in the video
@@gamebox6077 Did you manage to fix it?
@@MrVenat0r yes, the way i had it set up it was turning the mechanical hand or taking power from it, but i fixed it.
OMG thank you, i was wondering why it wasnt working, this helps alot
@@gamebox6077i dont understand
I'm a simple man. I power my furnace engines with dried kelp blocks, I power my enslaved Blaze steam engine with dried kelp blocks.
Kelp is a great power source!
@@dejojotheawsome in vanilla you can fully automate kelp farms all the way to making then craft their own dried kelp blocks, so I fear what create can do
15:50 for the netherrack, you could use a threshold switch (or whatever it was called) to turn on some kind of warning (e.g. if you have a control room for your base it could be a redstone lamp there) when the netherrack runs low.
A bunch of steam whistles turning on and of and a big square of lamps flashing on and off should do it.
I can confidently say I know my way around Create better than many, but I never knew I was overestimating how much water I needed for steam engines!
when you feed it buckets for testing, it makes it feel way more daunting
Use an infinite water source, then have the rotation turn the valves.
20 rpm per boiler level
I love playing with Immersive Engineering and Create Crafts & additions, it adds a way to directly upgrade blaze burners to being able to feed them with biodiesel with Create Pipes and superheats them.
Holy. Thank you! Sounds so much easier than automating blaze cakes 💀
I believe you can also pump lava into them with that mod.
from my experience, you don't need the dripstone blocks, just the dripstones itself are enough. and as long as its not possible to fully automate blazecakes (=generating netherack), i'll stick to using a lvl9 one and add another one if needed. more expensive to build but runs forever (unless you overstress it, but thats why you use a stressmeter)
You don’t need to automate it though? Unless you plan on spending maybe 400+ hours in one world. 2 double chests of netherrack takes the same amount of time to gather as a farm would imo, and thats 400hrs of fuel right there
yeah and it’s not like you’re gonna mine the whole Nether and run out of netherrack lol... right? Right???
5x5 drill netherrack and you'll have like 200 stacks in 10 minutes (not to mention you can do this while you're mining netherite to save time)
@@ruberine2086still better just to built 2 lvl 9 as there isnt any advantage whatsoever to lvl 18 boilers. Literally all you save is 9 blaze burners in construction. And you can make 2 lvl9 boilers much more compact
bruh goated tutorial, couldn't figure out which power source i should use and steam engines seemed too complicated until i watched this! tysm!
I am actually getting into the create mod again (I played it 2 times prior but returning to it) thank you for this! Your videos are informative and I enjoy the mostly uncut content as well as saying your thought process aloud, earned a sub from this minecraft veteran
you don’t have to use the drip stone blocks just pointed drip stone btw :) you could have glass or stone or whatever non flammable block there as long as the point is there
Thanks! I'm currently playing "Forever Factory" on Curseforge, where you build one single interconnected factory and keep adding onto it instead of building multiple factories and connecting them together. The modpack lets you do wireless create stress on channels, so I wanted a great way to power a single wireless channel and this looks to be it!
Love videos like this. This "explain, example, expand" way of teaching about this stuff is perfect for me.
Yeah one of the common add ons makes it possible to generate netherrack by pouring healing potions on cobblestone, which makes a top tier steam engine an insanely complicated but very satisfying setup.
You need a Melon Farm, Netherrack Farm, and a gold farm, which itself is a whole project on its own, then of course you need to farm chickens for the eggs and sugarcane, and then you can finally have all that feed into making blaze cakes infinitely in a massive factory sized engine.
On the plus side tho you do get a healing potion farm out of it among other things.
thanks so much for the video I didn't know steam engine would be that much given power !
besides that, you can craft netherrack without going in the nether at all (well, it's nicer to go in the nether since it's faster to get netherrack like that).
so, if you're on a server that deactivated nether, here's how, with Create:
- gunpowder = either mob farm, OR crush creeperhead OR wash crushed raw zinc (the other method require sulphur from nether)
- quartz: crush diorite OR crush prismarine crystals OR wash crushed gold ore
- netherrack = compact in a bassin (gravel, gunpowder, quartz, clay)
“You’re going to make an infinite water source” Me with the flowing fluids mod 😅
Great tutorial, I learned a lot about Create steam engines! Working on a public use blaze cake factory that "sells" blaze cakes for 2 netherrack a piece
Thanks for this video. I've seen videos about self-sustaining steam engines, but they all just built it and that's cool, but I prefer being able to understand what's happening lol. Now I'll be able to try and design my own.
i knew most of this but i hadn’t considered blaze cake automation!! it sounds silly but i usually use a tier 9 steam engine to power most of my stuff and i prefer just making another one as expanding up REALLY has drawbacks when you put steam engines under your base.. seeing that it makes almost 300,000 su i might consider it!
also some packs and create addons make it so you can farm cinder flour, the one i remember is spouting redstone on cinder flour
yeah the super boost in SU is honestly just really fun lol. Also thanks for letting me know about the addons :D
If I'm honest, with the most recent create version, I see two level 9's compared to a maxer being more efficient anyways, possibly even space wise, considering a max level boiler puts out as much as two 9's... that, and you dont have to make blaze cakes, just lava or even wood if you wanted, youd also have to spend the same amount of resources building a max level instead of two 9's anyways, the only thing you'd have to use more of is blaze burners, but those aren't too hard to get really
There is one where haunting flour gives cider fleur it is called additionele recipes or something similair
RETRACTION:
I wrote this before finishing watching the video (like an idiot) and henceforth retract this statement... must be an addon that I've been using (I've only played Create in modpacks made by friends)
~I believe that vanilla create can allow for cinder flour to be renewable as well... but it isn't as efficient... something to do with when crushing Netherrack there is a 50% chance to get 1 extra cinder flour, and if you do cobble, lava, and cinder flour you can make Netherrack, so that means that for every two Netherrack you crush on average, you can get one extra cinder flour.
Again... not the most efficient thing... but technically plausible... however I do not know if that's a standard Create thing or a result of an add-on... so if this is misinformation do let me know, and don't quote me on this, XD~
Thanks a lot for this tutorial, I didn't realize how early these are to setup.. that you could feed blaze with lava.. And most importantly i've never used the mechanical arm because I assumed they were as basic/limited as a factorio inserter. I had no idea they could target so freely.. create is so powerful!
Dripstone lava farms don't need dripstone -blocks-, any block that will hold the pointed dripstone stalactites (10 block long max) should work. It checks two blocks above the topmost pointed dripstone and looks for a cauldron up to 10 blocks below the tip. There is no advantage to having a longer than 1 block pointed dripstone.
It is of course random chance based on world ticks and dice rolls, but on average 1 tip will make just over 1 lava every day (19 minutes~). Any furnace fuel can be used in blaze burners for its usual time, so since lava lasts 1,000 seconds, you would need an average of 1.2~ cauldrons per blaze spawner (so 11+) to keep them more or less on; (char)coal would be 15/day/blaze(135). For you psychopaths out there, dried kelp blocks would be 6/day/blaze aka 486 kelp. Arms don't refill blaze unless the blaze has less than 500 seconds of time left but the blaze can hold up to 10,000 seconds without waste; so It Just Works™. Blaze cakes are 160s so need 7.5/day/blaze (67.5/day flour/eggs/sugar for the full 9) but will not overfeed the blaze.
Every heat source except -heated/superheated- (not cold) blaze provides the same passive 0 heat value, heated is 1, and super is 2. For water you need 10mb/t/level: Passive=1x20rpm pump, Heated=1x180rpm pump, Super=2x180rpm pumps. Water is not stored anywhere, so overfilling the steam tank provides no benefit.
Maxed tank level is 18 at 294,912su requiring 18 engines at 16,384su each to make use of. Engines are all separate generators so one getting overstressed doesn't inherently make all the others stop too.
Random sidenote but the wiki page for encased fans has a ton of interesting knowledge.
That's a lot of really amazing numbers! Thank you very much for sharing
This actually helps understand how to make a more efficient engine, thank you
If you are using the Create: Liquid Fuel mod you can pump lava directly into the blaze burners. Found this out playing on Beardstone's Perfect World pack.
Better option to feed the blaze burners is to use straws (part of the Create Crafts & Additions add on), and fluid pipes. It allows the blaze burners to take from the pipes connected to them. So instead I use a 2 stage pump system. One pump pulls from the lava farm into a fluid tank for lava. The second pump pulls from the lava tank to the blaze burners. I use clutches and switches so I can turn on and off the feed pump so if I want to the steam engine to shut down I can disable the transfer pump from the tank to build up a supply of lava to use when I need the steam engine running. The pump from the lava farm to the fluid pump is driven by a water wheel so it constantly pumps out any collected lava to the storage tank. The water wheel/lava pump combo is also connected to the engine as well with a clutch, so I can use the water wheel to jump start the steam engine to get some rotation in to start up the water pump connected to the steam engine and the feed pump from the tank to the blaze burners.
what my buddy did on our modded server was set up the infinite automatic lava first. it pumped into a giant tank. then the tank fed the blaze burners in the same way you did. he also had a water tank supplying water as well. he considered the blaze cakes but figure lava was more than enough power for a whole base. there's also a mod that adds compatibility between create and immersive engineering.
"The trick there is getting the lava from the nether, but I'll let you figure that one out."
🎵I LIKE TRAINS🎵
The Venn diagram of train child to create mod fan is a circle
Yes, I really prefer this style of tutorial! I was having many improvement ideas throughout the latter part of the video.
Teach a man to fish, and all!
You have earned my subscription, as well as my recommendations. I just wish I knew more Create creators.
I suspect Tango of the tech variety may have been influenced by you as well. Just a feeling I have.
Awesome. I've been using a tree farm with deployers but the lava and a mechanical arm seems way simpler.
It's a really nice easy way to deal with it
It really is nice, i prefer pairing create with other mods that allow me to farm any material infinitely (such as mystical agriculture) bc i personally dont enjoy mining or hand farming materials past the early game, i like to automate everything to the point that i could afk indefinitely without any part of my factory stalling
i would be so lost without your instructions of this mod. i cant tell you how much help you are with just two vidieos of yours i can say i learned enough to where i was able to build something way more functional.
Form of this videos is brilliant, as you said, teaching how the machine works, thank you for not making us watch you place blocks, I'm so glad I found your channel
thank you for help. at first the Steam Engine was a littel complicadet but now its easy for me to build something cool with it :)
Find a sufficiently large whole in the overworld, use a hose pulley to fill up the hole from your lava gen. Once you have enough lava, reverse your pump and you'll be pumping an infinite lava source.
you need 10k Lava sources for the lake to be considered infinite. That takes A WHILE with an automatic lava farm. Given that the average time for a cauldron to get filled by drip stone is 19 minutes (according to the minecraft wiki) even with the 20 cauldrons that are running here it would take 150 hours 20 minutes on average (not counting time for setup) just to generate the lava needed to create an infinite source. At that point it would probably be faster going to the Nether, finding an infinite lake, setting up an infinite pump there, bring a bunch of tanks and then run 1250 filled create tanks (or comparatively larger ones from other mods if you have access to them for fewer trips) and create your lake that way
personally I like setting up an automatic train to keep bringing lava from an infinite source in the nether to the overworld to create infinite sources since it's much much faster
@@neztech. A cool idea could be to make a vulcano out of a mountain and that holds your lava
@@ThisIsMego Why don't use a train ;) A train assembled with a tank can transport the lava trough a portal and bring it to the overworld. No need to carry so much stuff by your own. It is a process to get to trains, but it is really funny to have such a "lake " of infinite supply.
I’m trying to make a self sufficient power plant with create: New age and I was having a bit of trouble getting the engine running but this video really helped.
Steam Engines notably overstress individually, so if you don't mind wasting most of the 16k SU the one engine produces, you can have single separate engine feeding water and fuel, and no matter what happens to the other engines (assuming the fuel holds up), the engine keeps running.
You can also use the "wasted" SU to run 2nd to 4th additional boilers, if you want to.
I am not sure if this has been brought up within the comments (i'm disinclined to acquiesce towards reading more than one or two comments, myself), but there are ways of utilizing infinite lava sources. I may be out of date, as this feature may have been disabled or the requirements may have changed, but as I recall you only around 100 lava source blocks to constitute an infinite supply.
You could have the cauldrons pump a percentage of their supply into a prepared space and, once it fills, change your system to feed from there rather than the cauldrons which can then be torn down and moved to another project.
Enjoyed your video, looking forward to browsing the rest of your content and see if there are some things I haven't discovered as of yet. Such as the blaze cake, that was a wonderful little nugget I managed to miss!
6:50 I'm a bit late, but you can use any solid block above the dripstones, not just dripstone blocks.
this will be useful, i even have an idea to make the lava farm more reliable in the event the generator over stresses, multiple lava farms stockpiling lava in a tank
Yes, you can automate netherrack. You can turn cinderflour back into netherrack with lava and cobble. It's a pain but it can be automated and come out netherrack positive since you have that 50% chance of 2.
Am I dumb or did he not mention the tiny fact that you need to go to the Nether and capture blazes inside the blaze burners?? That seems like a pretty HUGE fact to leave out.
So real
Steam Engines are endgame su engines; it’s common knowledge the ingredients for a blaze burner if you’re at the point to make one
@@kvable. It's common knowledge that not everybody knows everything, jackass.
This helped more than any how to mod pack i've watch. Subscribed.
Thank you so much! I’ve been trying to make a steam engine and it wasn’t working but this helped a ton!
Learned a lot, thanks! Really helped solidify things in my head.
super glad to hear that!
I never thought that vanilla lava farm could be this useful
This is my first time with this mod and I experimented around with the small design trying to get it to make more SU and I found that by replacing the 4 corner campfires of the 3x3 design with blaze burners you can keep the engine going even after the 4 blaze burners run out of fuel, was getting around 16k SU output with fuel, and 2048 without, idk how good that is but it sped up the crafting of the crusher wheels for me by a lot.
This guy is so underrated.
hey, youre the one who sold me fent in teh dennys parking lot
I'm pretty sure you can use bamboo to power blaze burners instead of buckets of lava or a tree farm. A bamboo farm is very easy to make. Though you would probably want a stockpile switch to stop the farm from producing too much bamboo
It May bottleneck with Just one mech arm. The blaze butners can burn bamboo faster than the arm can provide it
@@БогданПаращук-у4д 2 arms then
Netherrack doesn't really need automation, even if you have an iron pickaxe a bit of efficiency can make netherrack insta-mined, so you can get a lot of it quickly and forget about it. Then you could make a notification system that idk turns on some lamps or smth when the amount of netherrack is low.
"anddddd boom, check that out... we dont have enough water."
LOL
Btw I noticed something. In the second solution(lava farm) the mechanical arm moves too fast, it just takes the empty bucket. Probably it could be fixed with a different solution, not using the power from the steam engine.
Really good vid, I learned a lot.
Thanks!
A rotation speed controller can fix that
You can also use a second depot
Okay so blaze burners aren't that difficult, but he does leave out the fact that netherrack and iron sheets make an empty blaze burner and you then have to proceed to travel to the nether and capture live blazes
i have no fucking clue what am doing so this is actually really helpful
u can also use a hose pully in the nether to bring lava from lakes, use a item drain and buckets( u can bring it throught the net5her with belts)
why does my mechanical arm grab the loops and take the empty bucket in and out over and over again pls help
I'm having the same issue, it's going wayyyyy too fast for the bucket to fill up before it takes it back to the brass funnel. halp
@@Shadow-du4vf so real, no clue
any solution yet?
lower the rpm on your mechanical arm so that it can wait the bucket get full, it worked for me
why are you the only person who has a generator guide with steam engines that i could find?
I am a steam wizard!
I just realized that you can add a cogwheel on a different side of the water pump and connect a crank to it, and you can restart the boiler at any time, without using a windmill.
New to the mod, this was a fantastic intro, thank you!
Honestly, you don't need the steam engine on top. You need it attached to the boiler. So you can have it sideways very easily, and in fact for larger engines having all the arms on one side is highly recommended. Plus, it makes it easier to expand as you don't have things on top of the boiler blocking you from placing more tanks.
Yes, he was just doing a small demonstration. He wasnt going out of his way to make it efficient or anything, just messing around to show how it all works
Hey can you do a tutorial that automatically makes blaze cakes and feeds into the burners?
Your vidoes made me play Create its a really fun mod that fits the type of games i usually play and love so thanks for the recomendation bro.
I like to use water wheels to power the water input and other inputs, since waterwheels are nice and cheap and don't shut off when the boiler overstresses or runs out of fuel.
If you want to use this with the water physics mod you should plug it up to the sea, theres more than the amount required for an infinite source
I can't tell the mechanical arm to target the brass funnel. I hold shift, ctrl, left-click, right-click. no matter what I do it cant target it, it only places it down.
EDIT: you have to shift-place the brass funnel to make it an input funnel.
Now my mechanical arm is snatching the empty bucket from the depot before the spout can finish filling it. I dont understand what you did to make it wait for the lava bucket to fill
EDIT: Yeah it seems there was an update that made mechanical arms dumber. I got around this by adding an extra depot and an extra funnel. arm places empty bucket in input funnel, input funnel puts it in depot 1, spout fills empty bucket with lava in depot 1, output funnel puts the full lava bucket in depot 2 (which is 1 block lower and one block to the side of depot 1), arm takes it from depot 2, repeat). The plus side is you can have 2 buckets in the system using this method which means the mechanical arm has 0 down time.
Add a buffer for the lava. Make the lava go into a big container so there's lava piled up already ready to be used so you don't have to wait for lava to go through the pipes from a single cauldron
Now I can recreate the Industrial Revolution in my multiplayer server
Thanks for the tutorial, I had the lava but couldnt figure out how i should make it self sufficient.
Messed around with steam engines yesterday and this popped up. Whilst messing around I accidentally made a max level steam engine, producing ~110,000su. I hooked it up to a generator to produce electricity. Create is amazing 😅
Alternative to a tree farm perhaps a kelp farm since chutes drop the output from furnaces and then can be packed automatically on a mechanical press that both feeds itself as well as excess dried kelp to power the engine unless a bamboo farm is used to cook the kelp which seems a little excessive at that point but idk. 👀
Loving your channel 😎
suprisingly real, I would like to see the abilty to mine for fossil fuels and then to smelt those to create electricity tho
Hey I have an issue where the mechanical arm keeps taking and putting back the empty bucket and it just never gets filled with lava.
i have this problem too. any fix around it?
@ldeoliveira755 I just made a waterwheel power the mechanical arm and because the waterwheel is slow it works fine. Kinda annoying that I have to do that though...
How do I get the mechanical arm to NOT pick up the empty bucket sitting on the depot while also picking up the full bucket?
lower the rpm on your mechanical arm so that it can wait the bucket get full, it worked for me
This man could legit be the best teacher at my school
10:47 forget the mechanical arm you can pipe lava directly into the blaze burner with fluid pipes. faster and cheaper
thanks i destroyed my pump system to do what you said but you cant pump lava into the blaze burners
@@00WhiteBlade idk I'm playing on the steampunk modpack and it works just fine for me
@@Okguy1_Music you have an addon mod that adds liquid fuel to the list.
8:55 respect for using belts to transfer rotational power
the problem with having the steam engine power it's own water pump is that if you overstress it and it shuts off, you now have to go and start it all over again manually from scratch, and you'll usually also have to disconnect all your equipment from it as the hand crank doesn't create enough SU to power more then really just that pump
With Create Stuff and Additions, you can power the blazde burners directly by giving them straws
This is very cool but it's sad that the older version of create don't have those.
The furnace engines are cool tool! But yeah these are great
Also, using Create Stuff & Additions you can deliver lava without buckets
“Blaze burners aren’t that expensive *”
*excluding time spent bumping around in the nether
“And if you want a tree farm tutorial, ask”
Well, I’m asking! I have some concepts, but would love more information, ranging from an auto-cutting but no deployer, to fully automated! As well as how to set up the auto-charcoal!
Also, how about a blaze cake tutorial? Just another thought!
I’ll definitely be working on a video for tree farms and other spinning farms so stay tuned!
@@dejojotheawsome great! WIll do!
If you're doing this in a pack with mystical agriculture, you can fully automate the netherrack too
15:47 take the full stack of cinder flour and turn it back too netherrack, the extra becomes cakes.
im following this and i have the issue of my mechanical arm grabbing my bucket too fast for it to be filled
any solution?
6:55 It doesnt matter if its dripstone block or any other block (stone and cobble works for sure)
So these tutorials are amazing I have been wanting to make a really big factory sometime I just didn't know where to start so now that I have a better idea of what to do I hope I can eventually show my big factory either chocolate factory or fruit factory if u can or whatever I come up with idk yet but it's going to be really big an amazing when I can show it
I just made my first steam engine believing they were late game stuff but it's really simple I could have made one from day 3...
sooo many waterwheels and sails for nothing
They're deceptively simple! I love that about them
Great video my friend! 👏👏👏
You don't need dripstone blocks, just the dripstone themselves. The lava will drip through essentially any standard block. I use glass.
Don’t know if anyone know this but you can use a straw on a blaze burner to make it accept fluids,then make a ton of bioethanol and you have superheated blaze burners for days
That’s in an addon called Create: Crafts and additions
@@dejojotheawsome ah,that explains it
good job dude really helpful! now i now how steam engines work
Now i just need updated tinker's construct
I went through all the effort to create myself infinite lava pool but due to some bug or mistake it is not an infinite source so I'm considering switching to charcoal method, more consistant than waiting for lava if it decided to mess up.
Oh and I had one of the addon that lets blaze burner use a straw... blaze cake get overwritten so now I see why
(Context: the straw allows blaze burners to drink lava directly from the pipes)
I made a 300k+ stress boiler on my survival server on accident and it works amazingly somehow lol. And I didn’t even know 300k was good
I wonder what addons you've got!
@@dejojotheawsome none right now.I’m on 1.20 so a lot of them aren’t updated. I just have like 9 blaze boilers being fed wood constantly
I learnt recently by accident while experimenting with create that you can generate netherack by haunting soul sand so if u have a cobble gen milling gravel then mill gravel to sand then haunt sand then haunt the soul sand you get netherack. :)
My mechanical hand is taking the bucket even when its empty
Fantastic - VERY informative & Helpful, thanks!
Thanks a lot for this! Very helpful.
So glad to have helped!
As a person who doesn't use the create mod i see that i won't see the end of the video (but i'll leave a like anyway)
Make inf water but whit lava it wil work i think😊