@@ant5389 I think I've seen the video you are talking about, pretty sure that wasn't ray tracing, ray tracing is way more complex than anything redstone would ever be capable of processing. He just had some math to project the points of a 3d object onto a 2d plane. For his sin, cos, and tan stuff, I'm assuming the ROM he used was relatively limited and only had the numbers his limited system could actually need to use built in
@@Ampheline people already made minecraft in minecraft AND ALSO were able to Order PIZZA through minecraft so pretty sure someone will be able to make doom pretty easily. Well Not EASILY but u get my point
@@sunnysonne2957 no it's just because ram is designed that way as it's the most (currently known) efficient way of making ram, so a similar layout would also be efficient in Minecraft
Love your builds, always wondered how I could add Redstone features to them like giant doors, elevators, secret tunnels , Traps, minigames, screens ect.
Yeah that's crazy! There are *mobile phones* with 16 *GB* of ram, which is *over a million times* the ram block from saturn v, a *fucking space rocket!*
@@Paultimate7 well kinda, the tech is getting smaller but that increases data storage density exponentially. storage has gotten massive in only a few years. SD cards/micro sd cards are the best example. they started out with megabytes, then only a few gigabytes, then a couple hundred gigs, now even the micro sd cards are a terabyte.
I was always jealous of people who understood redstone to this degree. I'm no rocket scientists, but these contraption went a long way from just "hidden doors"
if you know jackshit about CS you can tinker all day with redstone without realising you created a virtual transitor or other computer component. redstone isn't that hard, CS is complicated applying redstone isn't.
Brilliant Editing, and i love how you seamlessly used minecraft to teach us history and computer science, we need more content like this in the minecraft community
“Hello guys today we are gonna mine 30k obsidian to make a nether portal” - 30 million views “Today ill show u how to make an actual pc in mc” - 60k views
I can't even use redstone to make a fake door without mumping it up, this is just. . . insane. Redstone masters are like magicians to me. This does give me a "better" idea how RAM works, and also blows my mind that humans created RAM in the first place, allowing me to play minecraft, video games, and watch and comment on this video. Incredible!
There is a video on LTT's channel, where they interview one of the scientist who worked on the computers for the rockets. You dont have to travel time, they are still alive :D
I'm a big space nerd and I've seen videos about the Saturn5 ram before, so I instantly recognised it. But this is the frist time I understood how it works. Kudos, would have never suspected to receive this knowledge from a Minecraft video :)
With 16Kb RAM (and assuming more in ROM) you could easily combine this with some tech used in CHUNGUS 2) to design a programming language, and give a compiler, so that you could design AND SAVE multiple programs into one red stone computer. It would be important if rot figure out hard drives, more storage perhaps at the sacrifice of speed-of-access. But getting an OS and compiler onto a minecraft computer would be huge, this could definitely help
I'm amazed by what you've achieved, and I love the historical "insight" that come with it (I really enjoyed learning how the Saturn V ram works)! This is truly a masterpiece 🤯
Thank you, glad you've enjoyed it. Here are some videos from @smartereveryday About The Saturn V that are very interesting: How did NASA Steer the Saturn V ? ua-cam.com/video/dI-JW2UIAG0/v-deo.html I Asked an actual Apollo Engineer to Explain the Saturn 5 Rocket: ua-cam.com/video/1nLHIM2IPRY/v-deo.html
I REALLY appreciate your effort and the details you have included in this video. I don’t play Minecraft but I’m aware of projects like this, and I’ve always been fascinated as to how people go about creating such things. It’s an excellent example of how designed constraints can produce something truly amazing! I can totally see if you were born in a different time you’d be the one wiring up the shuttle memory yourself!
@@iPlayGamesXi think he means the computer in Minecraft running the calculations. Or in this you are severely limiting your calculation capabilities with a computer that already has 8 GB of ram just for the funny.
Storing shulker boxes *and* music discs together would open up a load of possibilities. Music discs can be read in one cycle and thus are fast but inefficient, making them a 4 bit word. It's perfectly analogous to RAM compression! The order you insert discs in a shulker is the order they are read. If you have a secondary cache box to eventually be returned to the original location, you could have a processor do any kind of modifications to the cache box that you want before you return it, with the empty box being recycled for the next cache box. Effectively, you can freeze the RAM/processor for up to 27 clock cycles (actually, the number of items in the box!), but for that period you can do pre-conceived reads, writes, inserts, or removes to the box for the entire period. Inserts compress the RAM more, removes decompress it. The more compressed the RAM is, the longer it freezes the processor/RAM for. This would allow for you to create arrays optimized for streaming lots of data in/out, while having your standard 4 bit words that are quick to access, but you could also grow/shrink each value in the RAM to desired efficiencies!
This stuff is mind-boggling!!! I am studying Computer Science and Hardware, and have been a long time Minecraft player and I still don't fully understand this stuff, amazing!!!! Keep it up!
Improving kahyxen's stuff by mixing two of their designs together is really clever! I love seeing technical minecrafters improve upon each other's work
I wonder if the new Skulk updates are gonna help in these kinds of projects. It seems like a promising way to send information! Edit: I don't know anything about redstone, ya'll probably smart enough to know if I'm absolutely wrong lol
I recently actually used a small player editable ram unit in a Minecraft note block sequencer I am currently working on to simplify how many note blocks I needed, it was only a small one at around 75 bytes per tile-able unit but it still had very similar stuff to yours like the instant rails. It is amazing to see this stuff getting out to more people via UA-cam, I will definitely be looking forward to the shenanigans that peruse with your usage of this in the future. Keep up the good work and keep being inspirational. 👍
The fact that minecraft's redstone system is so robust that its possible to build something that would be theoretically powerful enough to send someone to the moon in a videogame is insane
Loved the history and science lesson in the beginning! Well paced and helped me understand the core concepts, no pun intended. Looking forward to more videos. -Tech
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I would love to see All of this stuff be mixed into Samyuris Chungus 2 and the colour display too bc imagine Minecraft in Minecraft could be in colour which mixed with his computational redstone he could possibly improve what your making I think it'd be great
@OnlyGrafting I find it's always cool in games to go through your old creations and find they still work even if they are suboptimal. I'm no Redstone wizard but I am okay in From the Depths.
You could improve this 5 fold! If You use all 9 slots and work with bigger packets (Basically changing from a 4 bit architecture to a 20 bit architecture) you could improve memory efficiency massively, And yes the dropper spits out the items randomly so you wouldnt be able to store 72bits per dropper, but you still would have a massive improvement if we add a constraint of only unique sorted combination of music disks in each dropper and make a chip that translates between binary and this sorted lists to write, then use a buffer and sort them at read time so that you would be able to store up to 20 bits per dropper without losing that much speed, I am not a redstone engineer (Im a programmer) but using this concept of combinatorics could improve this design to store up to 80kb of data!
It'll be interesting using systems like this to create a large item storage system where you can basically read how many of x item you have, and also have low latency in selecting an item and ordering how many of that item you need delivered to you. kinda like those modded storage devices that holds items as data rather than the items, except its analog and vanilla, but maybe see if its possible to use the new skulk sensor block to store information since it actually can store data and send only that data/sound
Skulk sensors don't work well for this, as reloading the chunk they are on resets all the stored information on them. Mumbo has a good video showcasing this and explaining why currently it's only mildly useful. Essentially you'd have to reset the sounds of each one every time you load the game, or any time a chunk reloads
The fact that the information to guide saturn v to the moon and back as well as emergency reroute was stored in just 16 kb is insane, thats so much information in such a tiny amount of space..
super curious as to what contraptions you'll be making in the future! Rendering fractals could be fun! Personally i'd love to see a pc with screen where you can type commands that perform functions in your base (thinking vanilla). Such as turning on farms, opening and closing doors, have it hooked up to a sorting system where you can request items, the computer might give you tasks such as crafting items or handling overflows when necessary. The computer would have memory of past commands, it could tell you how many days it ran. I'm thinking about how it could be used in a vanilla base but maybe that's a way too practical perspective :p
You could have a hybrid RAM where it can store two memory types: disc and shulker. this would allow programs on the theoretical minecraft computer to use both quick to read and high density variables at the same time.
I like to check up on redstone computer advancements over time, and things are seriously ramping up these days. Last time I looked people were struggling to make monitors and ram wasn't even mentioned.
RAM has always been a part of redstone computers since the beginning. I honestly don't know where you're getting your info from, but it can't be a very good source because screens haven't been much of an issue for a while now either.
Absolutely impressive! Every time the possibilities of this game and the people behind the creations impress me to the limit. Excellent work and I can't wait to see what will be next with this much opportunities now!
Excellent video, your explanation of how ram worked in the Saturn V and Minecraft is great for those of us who aren’t already computer and red stone nerds
I'm learning computer architecture and organization in college, THIS is better than all the books and resources available for explaining how computers work.
One nitpick, the Saturn V actually had more than 14kb of ram, but the actual number is obscured by a the changing of standards, a change in hardware architecture, and redundancy. There's a little bit of a lesson that needs to happen to explain why there's fuzz in the number, the Launch Vehicle Digital Computer was originally created before the standardization of memory size, in stead of 8 bits to 1 byte they used bits to words as a general unit of measurement, however the number of bits per word varied wildly based on who you were working for and sometimes between projects, most modern documentation uses a ratio of 16 bits to 1 word. The Launch Vehicle Digital Computer used a ratio of 26 bits to 1 word, and each memory core could hold 4 kilowords, so 26(bits/word)*4000(words)=104000(bits), which when you divide that by 8 to get bytes you end up with ~13kb, which lines up with the value of one memory core. But wait, there's more! Depending on the mission each LVDC had up to 8 of these memory cores, increasing the available ram of the rocket to 104kb. However this available memory was sometimes used in duplex mode, which was a redundancy setting that made it so that they could almost guarantee the data onboard survived the mission, but halved the effective memory to 52kb. And some missions had entire redundant computer systems, which further muddies the numbers. All of this redundancy was because of how violent a launch into space is. Best of all though? These memory cores were built tough. They have ridiculous memory integrity, even when unpowered, the read board on almost all of the modules have broken or degraded, but the rings themselves are still holding a charge from when they were programmed, NASA thinks the mission program is still in a state that it could be executed properly, at least 50 years later, which is well beyond modern day DRAM, which looses the data the instant it's powered off, HDD's, which usually last 8ish years unpowered, optical disks, that last on average 10 years before they literally start to rot (Blu-Ray might last longer, but no one's really checked), SSD's, which should hold out mathematically to 20 unpowered, even the various tape technologies, that last up to 30 years without rewrite.
I know it's a joke, but considering that 1 TB = 1024 GB, 1 GB = 1024 MB, and 1 MB = 1024 KB, 1 TB = 1,073,741,824 KB. Meaning the poor guy would have to copy and paste this whole thing a WHOPPING 67,108,864 times to reach that, lmfao
@@jacklandedhere5157 good point but can’t he just / copy and / paste next to each other and copying all of them together which will double the amount each time making it a lot less 67.1 million times ( still my comment was just a joke )
Nah he's just clickbaiting. The ram module on the rocket was not only multiple millions of times faster than what Redstone can do, it was also incredibly small for the time, which was the goal.
@@polygontower the best game speeding up software (mchprs, Minecraft High Performance Redstone Server, which isn't exactly Minecraft but I won't get into that rn) isn't fast enough to outpace the speed of the memory module, and doesn't support pistons, rails, items and observers at all in the first place. You could use carpet but the speed of that is laughable.
@@dapcuber7225 1- yes they do work without a texture pack, while slightly tint shifted, and there's designs that can almost fully avoid that 2- There were shulker based designs before his 3- there were map based designs before his 4- There were literal 3d printers using powdered concrete before his display.
@@iPlayGamesX so... someone from ORE messaged him and were impressed by his design. also from what i remember, even sammy's minecraft in minecraft video only had 512B of RAM
hello, a little message from open redstone engineers. we're impressed by the density of your ram and would love to help incorporate it into more complex devices in the future :)
The things people can do in Minecraft is amazing. I can already picture one of these days someone will literally make an older version of Minecraft within Minecraft, and then beat the ender dragon in Minecraft within Minecraft.
Have you thought about using a cache? This is how CPU's do it, they don't have ram directly hooked up to the registers or whatever because that would be slowwwww, they have a cache connected to the ram, which is much faster to access. When you want to access something that isn't in the cache (cache miss) you would use for example LRU (least recently used) eviction policy and replace the least recently used line in the cache, and this would take some time. It's a little bit more complicated than that but nothing unmanagable.
With this much memory you could probably make a calculator for trig functions like sin, cos, and tan
You could hardcore that in ROM tho, don't think that needs RAM
@@floskater99 true…but maybe storing previous calculations?
fairly sure someone did that
they also made something that used ray tracing to make any sized cube you want spin on its screen
@@ant5389 I think I've seen the video you are talking about, pretty sure that wasn't ray tracing, ray tracing is way more complex than anything redstone would ever be capable of processing. He just had some math to project the points of a 3d object onto a 2d plane. For his sin, cos, and tan stuff, I'm assuming the ROM he used was relatively limited and only had the numbers his limited system could actually need to use built in
@@faceboy1392 to someone with the iq of a potato, what he said sounded like a basic version of ray tracing but yea im prolly wrong sorry
Dangerously close to having a playable doom using a redstone computer
Calm down.. calm down. We still need a few orders of magnitude
@@Ampheline it can be done
@@marcofransowitz4773 You'd need to either innovate a new system or create this clunky and massive design
The prophecy is true
@@Ampheline people already made minecraft in minecraft AND ALSO were able to Order PIZZA through minecraft so pretty sure someone will be able to make doom pretty easily. Well Not EASILY but u get my point
I love how structurally it's starting to look like an actual stick of ram
they do have that shape for a reason!
Art imitates life imitates art. The cycle continues, and the pattern grows anew
@@sunnysonne2957 no it's just because ram is designed that way as it's the most (currently known) efficient way of making ram, so a similar layout would also be efficient in Minecraft
@@RobstrapYou just proved his point.
@@JoelDiez no
This is living proof Minecraft is NOT just a game. The stuff people are creating nowadays is getting out of hand. 😂
Love your builds, always wondered how I could add Redstone features to them like giant doors, elevators, secret tunnels , Traps, minigames, screens ect.
@@MrKorwaldski I will happily send you a copy of any Minecraft world 😂
Um, no, minecraft is still just a game. Hence why he said that the ram was a virtual display and not real ram, but that it was still important
@@Raven1T2hater 😂 it’s is not just a game… is the closest thing to a Vr universe created by humans
It was never just a game to me it's a virtual world to express yourself in so many ways. It's beautiful
videos like this really make you realize just how dense our modern data storage systems are.
Yeah that's crazy! There are *mobile phones* with 16 *GB* of ram, which is *over a million times* the ram block from saturn v, a *fucking space rocket!*
i think it just shows how redstone manifests the simple fundamental of microchip tech
Makes me wonder how tf we discovered this
you mean how small?
@@Paultimate7 well kinda, the tech is getting smaller but that increases data storage density exponentially. storage has gotten massive in only a few years. SD cards/micro sd cards are the best example. they started out with megabytes, then only a few gigabytes, then a couple hundred gigs, now even the micro sd cards are a terabyte.
I was always jealous of people who understood redstone to this degree. I'm no rocket scientists, but these contraption went a long way from just "hidden doors"
this isnt so much redstone knouledge, prolly more like computer science (just as if not more impressive)
When you been playing the game since it came out you learn a lot about tech and mc
@@iambored1528 its both
Bro fr these mfers out here building computer in Minecraft and I'm just running around exploring and living in a tree house like a crazy hobo
if you know jackshit about CS you can tinker all day with redstone without realising you created a virtual transitor or other computer component. redstone isn't that hard, CS is complicated applying redstone isn't.
It doesn't matter what you use this for because I'm pretty sure it's gonna be awesome
We’re gonna make a computer in Minecraft, and then play Fortnite on it
@@michealmalloy1934 why fortnite?
@@jackdesanta69 minecraft in minecraft has already been done ):
@@DiamondBroPlayz I know
This is a binary calculations all apps and programs run only 1 and 0.
Brilliant Editing, and i love how you seamlessly used minecraft to teach us history and computer science, we need more content like this in the minecraft community
That was the real education Minecraft was meant for. Not education edition, but ambition.
“Hello guys today we are gonna mine 30k obsidian to make a nether portal” - 30 million views
“Today ill show u how to make an actual pc in mc” - 60k views
@@kinesslop651 350k views😏
@@jayko2k its almost to 1 million
@@jasonrubik insane. but totally deserved imo
4:25 this is why ram is called random access memory, you can access any part of it. The tape and the shulker box are sequential access memory.
SAM -zombie game
I can't even use redstone to make a fake door without mumping it up, this is just. . . insane.
Redstone masters are like magicians to me. This does give me a "better" idea how RAM works, and also blows my mind that humans created RAM in the first place, allowing me to play minecraft, video games, and watch and comment on this video. Incredible!
Imagine going back in time and showing this video to one of the rocket scientists
There is a video on LTT's channel, where they interview one of the scientist who worked on the computers for the rockets. You dont have to travel time, they are still alive :D
@@kegyusnot alive now, I pooped on them
imagine going back in time and showing this to notch when he was first made minecraft, or to the dude who made the first computer
@@kegyuslink pls
Rocket Scientists aren't even scientists, they are engineers
Normal Computers: YES. NO
Quantum Computers: Perhaps
if you ask it it will tell you yes/no
you just can't be sure what it will be
Minecraft Computers: Strad, Mellohi, Mall, Pigstep, 5, 13, 11, Chirp or Cat?
@@Codefan321 Both of them.
I am feeling a little Otherside rn
@@Maric18 bro missed the joke 🪑
I don't even understand half of what's going on, but I do appreciate the poetics of using disk memory.
You had to write that, didn t you?
Take my goddamn upvote.
Ugh!! Troll!! (here's my upvote, too!) :)
Bro what are these replies, upvotes? Jesus Christ man, get tf out of here you stinky redditors! Just kidding I'm also a loser reddit user...
Went over my head lol
reddit ahh reply section
I'm a big space nerd and I've seen videos about the Saturn5 ram before, so I instantly recognised it. But this is the frist time I understood how it works. Kudos, would have never suspected to receive this knowledge from a Minecraft video :)
With 16Kb RAM (and assuming more in ROM) you could easily combine this with some tech used in CHUNGUS 2) to design a programming language, and give a compiler, so that you could design AND SAVE multiple programs into one red stone computer. It would be important if rot figure out hard drives, more storage perhaps at the sacrifice of speed-of-access. But getting an OS and compiler onto a minecraft computer would be huge, this could definitely help
Dad: What are you building in Minecraft?
Son: Making an OS.
Dad: Doesn’t Minecraft use an OS already?
A way of making a hard drive (although it's insanely laggy and slow as hell) is to use items in barrels and item sorters.
Big Chungus?
You have no idea what youre talking about
Okay, I have no idea what I'm talking about@@ReverseGuy
Redstone videos like this should have millions of views this is just brilliant
'i built a button in minecraft that detonates a nuclear bomb in russia'
Clickbaity content shouldn't get any views :(
@@iPlayGamesX it's not clickbaity though, it's true
millions must mine
@@iPlayGamesX bro, that ain't clickbait
I'm amazed by what you've achieved, and I love the historical "insight" that come with it (I really enjoyed learning how the Saturn V ram works)! This is truly a masterpiece 🤯
Thank you, glad you've enjoyed it.
Here are some videos from @smartereveryday About The Saturn V that are very interesting:
How did NASA Steer the Saturn V ?
ua-cam.com/video/dI-JW2UIAG0/v-deo.html
I Asked an actual Apollo Engineer to Explain the Saturn 5 Rocket:
ua-cam.com/video/1nLHIM2IPRY/v-deo.html
Same with everything you said.
The most amazing part of these sort of creations is that they are perfect for teacher younger people how computing works
It’s not a perfect teacher because it’s too abstracted and makes a simple concept more complicated.
I REALLY appreciate your effort and the details you have included in this video. I don’t play Minecraft but I’m aware of projects like this, and I’ve always been fascinated as to how people go about creating such things. It’s an excellent example of how designed constraints can produce something truly amazing! I can totally see if you were born in a different time you’d be the one wiring up the shuttle memory yourself!
This must have been what it was like in the 1900s lots of technology and people thinking “humans made that?”
It’s crazy to think that we could send people to the moon with the rocket running Minecraft
With Minecraft running the rocket in that case.
well it takes a lot more than 16kb to run Minecraft
This would be too slow for that xd
@@iPlayGamesXi think he means the computer in Minecraft running the calculations. Or in this you are severely limiting your calculation capabilities with a computer that already has 8 GB of ram just for the funny.
@@CeoMacNCheese Ye I'm just hatin cuz I don't like the ram / video
Storing shulker boxes *and* music discs together would open up a load of possibilities. Music discs can be read in one cycle and thus are fast but inefficient, making them a 4 bit word. It's perfectly analogous to RAM compression!
The order you insert discs in a shulker is the order they are read. If you have a secondary cache box to eventually be returned to the original location, you could have a processor do any kind of modifications to the cache box that you want before you return it, with the empty box being recycled for the next cache box.
Effectively, you can freeze the RAM/processor for up to 27 clock cycles (actually, the number of items in the box!), but for that period you can do pre-conceived reads, writes, inserts, or removes to the box for the entire period. Inserts compress the RAM more, removes decompress it. The more compressed the RAM is, the longer it freezes the processor/RAM for.
This would allow for you to create arrays optimized for streaming lots of data in/out, while having your standard 4 bit words that are quick to access, but you could also grow/shrink each value in the RAM to desired efficiencies!
I don’t understand this but it makes so much sense.
@@Rich-in-Sodium so true
I like turtle's
If.
this is dangerously close to javascript
This was an incredibly explained video! 16kb doesn’t sound like much to a lot of people, but that is absolutely crazy made with redstone!
This stuff is mind-boggling!!! I am studying Computer Science and Hardware, and have been a long time Minecraft player and I still don't fully understand this stuff, amazing!!!! Keep it up!
This has got to be one of the most amazing things I've seen.
Me: can't even make the disc to play on repeat
Mr_Korwaldski: made a RAM that could send people to the Moon using discs
same:(
Improving kahyxen's stuff by mixing two of their designs together is really clever! I love seeing technical minecrafters improve upon each other's work
I wonder if the new Skulk updates are gonna help in these kinds of projects. It seems like a promising way to send information!
Edit: I don't know anything about redstone, ya'll probably smart enough to know if I'm absolutely wrong lol
A bit slow compared to instant wires, but it has the potential to be quite simple and compact
@@chaomatic5328 increasing the ticks of the game could perhaps be very useful
@@OnlySkeep thats non-vanilla tho, also hardware dependent at that point.
it's like Bluetooth: nice to have and more flexible than it's wired counterpart
@@El.Gatito. and like bluetooth its kinda buggy. great annalogy
The fact you made something in a GAME what all these years ago was revolutionairy in real life! AMAZING
There’s just no way a Minecraft video ended up being this informative on so many topics
I recently actually used a small player editable ram unit in a Minecraft note block sequencer I am currently working on to simplify how many note blocks I needed, it was only a small one at around 75 bytes per tile-able unit but it still had very similar stuff to yours like the instant rails. It is amazing to see this stuff getting out to more people via UA-cam, I will definitely be looking forward to the shenanigans that peruse with your usage of this in the future.
Keep up the good work and keep being inspirational. 👍
The fact that minecraft's redstone system is so robust that its possible to build something that would be theoretically powerful enough to send someone to the moon in a videogame is insane
You’re equating how ram can send someone to the moon? Did you forget the other things that are needed to power rockets?
@@longebane i'd like to see you manually fly a rocket along a perfect lunar injection trajectory, stick jockey.
@@longebane nah rockets just need RAM, they use RAM as thrust
@@theyeetster8607Honestly my computer probably uses RAM as thrust
Loved the history and science lesson in the beginning! Well paced and helped me understand the core concepts, no pun intended. Looking forward to more videos. -Tech
you have a real talent for making informative and fun videos!
bro has a doctorates degree in redstone
What do you want to see this RAM being used for ?
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Yes! Maybe not on how to build it but showing how it works? Big yes from me
Maybe a game of some kind? Especially since now you have RAM and regular storage, you could make a game.
Simulate the Saturn V launch and journey to the moon >:3
I would love to see All of this stuff be mixed into Samyuris Chungus 2 and the colour display too bc imagine Minecraft in Minecraft could be in colour which mixed with his computational redstone he could possibly improve what your making I think it'd be great
yes please
Great stuff. I hope they gonna make music disks copyable so that big data stores become also viable in survival.
I mean, combine creeper/skelly farm and somehow have skellies shoot creepers. Thats it.
@@OddWorlderer Good luck finding Pigstep, otherside and 5 that way...
If you tried making this in survival you'd be spending soo much time that before you're done there will be an even larger and better way to make it.
@OnlyGrafting I find it's always cool in games to go through your old creations and find they still work even if they are suboptimal. I'm no Redstone wizard but I am okay in From the Depths.
You could improve this 5 fold! If You use all 9 slots and work with bigger packets (Basically changing from a 4 bit architecture to a 20 bit architecture) you could improve memory efficiency massively, And yes the dropper spits out the items randomly so you wouldnt be able to store 72bits per dropper, but you still would have a massive improvement if we add a constraint of only unique sorted combination of music disks in each dropper and make a chip that translates between binary and this sorted lists to write, then use a buffer and sort them at read time so that you would be able to store up to 20 bits per dropper without losing that much speed, I am not a redstone engineer (Im a programmer) but using this concept of combinatorics could improve this design to store up to 80kb of data!
I didn't understand most of that but it sure does sound cool!
1:10 That was a smooth transition frr
Man know I'm motivated to do some Redstone experimentation in minecraft
Great ! Thats what I like about sharing my ideas, seeing what other people think about them, and hopefully inspiring them to experiment on their own.
An awesome build and some educational history?? Definitely earned my subscription
I would love to see a graphing calculator/3d renderer of some sort built with this tech, this is awesome!
Matt and Sloi respectively had made a 3d wireframe renderer and a graphing calculator
It'll be interesting using systems like this to create a large item storage system where you can basically read how many of x item you have, and also have low latency in selecting an item and ordering how many of that item you need delivered to you. kinda like those modded storage devices that holds items as data rather than the items, except its analog and vanilla, but maybe see if its possible to use the new skulk sensor block to store information since it actually can store data and send only that data/sound
Skulk sensors don't work well for this, as reloading the chunk they are on resets all the stored information on them. Mumbo has a good video showcasing this and explaining why currently it's only mildly useful.
Essentially you'd have to reset the sounds of each one every time you load the game, or any time a chunk reloads
It's sound really good that people are going crazy with just a game ❤ Crazy man hats off to you 😊
Very well made, you earned my subscription
The fact that the information to guide saturn v to the moon and back as well as emergency reroute was stored in just 16 kb is insane, thats so much information in such a tiny amount of space..
Not really, it's just a bunch of numbers. Being able to store that in 16kb makes perfect sense
super curious as to what contraptions you'll be making in the future! Rendering fractals could be fun!
Personally i'd love to see a pc with screen where you can type commands that perform functions in your base (thinking vanilla). Such as turning on farms, opening and closing doors, have it hooked up to a sorting system where you can request items, the computer might give you tasks such as crafting items or handling overflows when necessary. The computer would have memory of past commands, it could tell you how many days it ran.
I'm thinking about how it could be used in a vanilla base but maybe that's a way too practical perspective :p
To be fair, for stuff like that you don't even need a PC, you can just use named items and a keycard detector system
1:17 had me. Even in space human can't stop to draw this :')
i searched the comments for someone who'd seen it aswell
1:06 hahahah the shadow xD
A build explanation of the instant wire decoder would be so cool. I'm trying to figure out decoders and encoders rn and it's very interesting.
I already made that. Check my Channel :)
You could have a hybrid RAM where it can store two memory types: disc and shulker. this would allow programs on the theoretical minecraft computer to use both quick to read and high density variables at the same time.
This would be perfect for a Battleships game! I would love a tutorial - maybe even on the Battleships? :D
This is so impressive, your channel if stupidly underrated. Keep it up mate!
I like to check up on redstone computer advancements over time, and things are seriously ramping up these days. Last time I looked people were struggling to make monitors and ram wasn't even mentioned.
RAM has always been a part of redstone computers since the beginning. I honestly don't know where you're getting your info from, but it can't be a very good source because screens haven't been much of an issue for a while now either.
I still remember when that space on a hard drive was a game crazy man wtf
I seem to have wandered over to that side of Minecraft again.
Very interesting!
You put a LOT of work into this. This is absolutely crazy!
Such a good video, so informative and interesting to watch 10/10!
Finally! Downloadable Ram
And they just anounced the copper lamps, which could compact this thing so much
Absolutely impressive! Every time the possibilities of this game and the people behind the creations impress me to the limit. Excellent work and I can't wait to see what will be next with this much opportunities now!
1 small step for Minecraft, 0 big leaps for mankind
Government during Covid lockdown: "*Work from home*"
Rocket engineers:
I don’t understand a lot of what you said but this is freaken awesome! You did this inside Minecraft and that’s literally freaken sick
i dont understand a single thing you said but wow it sounds so hard and complicated. nice job, this is really cool!
Excellent video, your explanation of how ram worked in the Saturn V and Minecraft is great for those of us who aren’t already computer and red stone nerds
0:09 starship gonna break that record tomorrow
Great vids btw
well SLS already broke it but starship will break it again. but he did say one of, not the most
Yea but sls
And it didnt launch today its gonna launch in wed
I'm learning computer architecture and organization in college, THIS is better than all the books and resources available for explaining how computers work.
i really love that this is actually teaching us about how computers work that’s so cool
Kids has reached what humans called cutting edge in 1969 via minecraft. Magnificent!
This is so damn cool. Command blocks can do amazing things, but I've always loved what people can do with pure redstone.
One nitpick, the Saturn V actually had more than 14kb of ram, but the actual number is obscured by a the changing of standards, a change in hardware architecture, and redundancy.
There's a little bit of a lesson that needs to happen to explain why there's fuzz in the number, the Launch Vehicle Digital Computer was originally created before the standardization of memory size, in stead of 8 bits to 1 byte they used bits to words as a general unit of measurement, however the number of bits per word varied wildly based on who you were working for and sometimes between projects, most modern documentation uses a ratio of 16 bits to 1 word. The Launch Vehicle Digital Computer used a ratio of 26 bits to 1 word, and each memory core could hold 4 kilowords, so 26(bits/word)*4000(words)=104000(bits), which when you divide that by 8 to get bytes you end up with ~13kb, which lines up with the value of one memory core.
But wait, there's more! Depending on the mission each LVDC had up to 8 of these memory cores, increasing the available ram of the rocket to 104kb. However this available memory was sometimes used in duplex mode, which was a redundancy setting that made it so that they could almost guarantee the data onboard survived the mission, but halved the effective memory to 52kb. And some missions had entire redundant computer systems, which further muddies the numbers. All of this redundancy was because of how violent a launch into space is.
Best of all though? These memory cores were built tough. They have ridiculous memory integrity, even when unpowered, the read board on almost all of the modules have broken or degraded, but the rings themselves are still holding a charge from when they were programmed, NASA thinks the mission program is still in a state that it could be executed properly, at least 50 years later, which is well beyond modern day DRAM, which looses the data the instant it's powered off, HDD's, which usually last 8ish years unpowered, optical disks, that last on average 10 years before they literally start to rot (Blu-Ray might last longer, but no one's really checked), SSD's, which should hold out mathematically to 20 unpowered, even the various tape technologies, that last up to 30 years without rewrite.
Can we all just take a moment to appreciate the brilliant production quality of this video?
the sicko demonic fallen angels quartum computer!!! all technology is demonology!!!
Red stone being Turing complete is honestly one of the best parts of Minecraft
Finally, downloading more RAM
A tutorial of how this works and how you built it would be much appreciated!
1:17 That looks oddly familiar
dirty minded
lol
Copy paste it and make a terabyte of ram
I know it's a joke, but considering that 1 TB = 1024 GB, 1 GB = 1024 MB, and 1 MB = 1024 KB, 1 TB = 1,073,741,824 KB.
Meaning the poor guy would have to copy and paste this whole thing a WHOPPING 67,108,864 times to reach that, lmfao
@@jacklandedhere5157 good point but can’t he just / copy and / paste next to each other and copying all of them together which will double the amount each time making it a lot less 67.1 million times ( still my comment was just a joke )
@@panavgaming1050 yeah, he could, but I'm pretty sure no computer in the world would be able to handle that much redstone anyways lol
@@jacklandedhere5157 true
Next video- Minecraft: Can it run crysis?
That is truly amazing how you can use such a simple survival game into a 16kb ram capable tool.
If this man could create an entire ram module that's 16KB worth with music disks, then this man would have been able to work on the Saturn V.
Nah he's just clickbaiting. The ram module on the rocket was not only multiple millions of times faster than what Redstone can do, it was also incredibly small for the time, which was the goal.
@@iPlayGamesX No, actually redstone is faster, and if you consider the limitations of 1x1x1, its pretty compact
@@DetriHori No redstone is in no way faster lol
@@iPlayGamesX What if you use a mod to speed the game. That's fair play; you can mod your "computer" as much as you want.
@@polygontower the best game speeding up software (mchprs, Minecraft High Performance Redstone Server, which isn't exactly Minecraft but I won't get into that rn) isn't fast enough to outpace the speed of the memory module, and doesn't support pistons, rails, items and observers at all in the first place. You could use carpet but the speed of that is laughable.
What do you want me to use this ram for ?
Should I make a tutorial for the Instant wire decoder ?
Try running doom
Chess
you should join the ORE server, these ideas you're coming up with are revolutionary
No they aren't lol
name one person who has made a colour display before. RGB screens dont count because they dont work without a texture pack
@@dapcuber7225 1- yes they do work without a texture pack, while slightly tint shifted, and there's designs that can almost fully avoid that
2- There were shulker based designs before his
3- there were map based designs before his
4- There were literal 3d printers using powdered concrete before his display.
@@iPlayGamesX hey, I thought it was cool. now fuck off
@@iPlayGamesX so... someone from ORE messaged him and were impressed by his design. also from what i remember, even sammy's minecraft in minecraft video only had 512B of RAM
So you're telling me we now have the power to reach the moon again finally after 50 years, thanks to Minecraft?
And now the copper bulb is comming out.😅
make a 20 frame gif using that kind of ram
you're insane
hello, a little message from open redstone engineers. we're impressed by the density of your ram and would love to help incorporate it into more complex devices in the future :)
That might be interesting. You can join my discord server and we can communicate further from there.
Usually im struggling with Door bell, while this guy has builded 16 KB, not B, ram. Amaizing.
The things people can do in Minecraft is amazing.
I can already picture one of these days someone will literally make an older version of Minecraft within Minecraft, and then beat the ender dragon in Minecraft within Minecraft.
make 62.5 of these and you have a gigabyte
so i can download RAM now?
1:17 😏
DANGEROUSLY CLOSE TO CREATING PAMA
Man, I love how this video is so informational about real life stuff but then applying it into a video game😂
Ok your next step will be to make redstone computer to play Minecraft.... on 16 colour display
Underrated channel! Amazing redstone and editing!
I knew that we can make anything in minecraft using redstone and blocks
I still can't make my dad love me
I have absolutely no Idea what this guy is talking about but this is awesome
Have you thought about using a cache? This is how CPU's do it, they don't have ram directly hooked up to the registers or whatever because that would be slowwwww, they have a cache connected to the ram, which is much faster to access. When you want to access something that isn't in the cache (cache miss) you would use for example LRU (least recently used) eviction policy and replace the least recently used line in the cache, and this would take some time. It's a little bit more complicated than that but nothing unmanagable.