You had me at "Presonus." I have been a HUGE Presonus fan for about 13 years. They are DEFINITELY not long throw speakers. I read the specs on it and it says they're focused. At 1000 watts peak 100 feet outside makes sense. Now I gotta go get some and fly them. LOL!
Thank you for your videos. I appreciated your first video with the CDL's, because I also agreed that a dj might not appreciate these speakers. I have only two at the moment. I do sound for a wedding band and through the years, when the seniors see larger (or Newer) speakers, they usually start off with the fingers in the ears on their way INTO the room! LOL Keep posting please.
OMG .. I'm dying of laughter .. "Where's all my cougars at". I just found this tonight.. nice job on the rig. I was surprised to see you doing the bass bin so that the sound wouldn't kick back on the stage.
DJ King Vick always enjoy watching your videos and seeing you grow your business! We took a trip through Jonesboro last year and met lots of friendly people.
Great setup bro. I just got 2 CDL12P for my karaoke setup at home, along with an 18 sub. So far, it sounds amazing. Do you also use a separate program to tune the CDL12P internally or leave it on default? Also, the inputs for CDL12P are from your outs of your subs? Thanks
First, I want to say that I really like your videos. I did see the one in your shop. I also have CDL12P speakers. Two per side. I have two “pro X” lift stands that go up to 18’. They’re made for a truss, but I put my two on top using the hole on the bottom of the speaker. This works okay for just the two, but I, like you, want to add another speaker per side. I have the parts needed to hang the array, but have not found a way to attach them to the stand I have since it doesn’t allow for the speakers to hang in front of the stand. In other words, I got the wrong stands. They were $1600 each. Anyway… I too have the limit lights coming on on my speakers. I have tried to increase the output of the speakers so I need less “gas” on the mixer to get them as loud, but find it goes into limit anyway. I leave the outputs at 0. As long as limit is not steady, I pretty much ignore it as there is no degradation of the speaker signal coming out. What I would like to see is how you connect each speaker in your setup and get it up in the air. Again, great video!
I use my light stands for the pole mount option also. Idk how much weight I can put on my subs, so I rather not test it. Not yet at least til I find some info on that. I could do a video on how I fly them
@@lamarcobbs1 I would like to see a video on how you fly them. I have put both speakers on a pole in my sub per side. I don’t do this as much anymore since I’ve been putting them up higher in the air. High enough so that the bottom of the bottom speaker is aimed at the first row of audience. I can send sound quite the distance in this case. However, the top of the top speaker is going out into space, I’ve noticed. Kind of defeats the purpose. This is why I need to fly them from the fly grid. So then I can angle the top downward to get the top of the top speaker aimed at the rear of the audience which would require the trim height to be much higher. Constant curvature speakers are that way, though.
Great video, sir ... doing sound production has always been a passion for me. I've been in studio recording for years, and now I want to try my hand at the outdoor live sound. Could you possibly give me a run down of your equipment list excluding the lights 😅 please sir
😂😂 the drums sound awesome on video! Idd say even better in person!! Keep up the great work. Maybe try some kinda system management like a DBX drive rack. Whats those cdl’s being high passed at?
Are you running full audio to the CDL12P. If you was to bi-amp and roll off the low going to them that would help the clipping. On the amp. Am am saving up to get 4 and I am going to run them 3 way with a sub and low mid then the CL12P on top should sound great!
I’ve figured them out. These are powered speakers though, so there isn’t a bi-amp option for my version of CDL12P. I have both a HPF from my mixer board and the HPF inside the speaker DSP initiated.
Yes I did. In each corner, there’s an L angle metal welded to the stage. I bolt 10 feet square tube poles to those. At the top of the poles are eye bolts. Just hook the shade panels to those with hooks or shackles
The band members where just a few guys the singers were comfortable with. Keys idk him, bassist is that lady’s husband, drummer is one of my local friends. Had two 3600 watt generators, one 15 amp extension cable coming directly from venue, and just for caution, I ran my lighting with one of the vendors (my brother) generator.
2 EV EKX 18 set up normally on the ends of the stage. 4 EKX 15 set up in cardiod on the sides of the stairs. I want two more 18s so that I can set those up in cardiod also
Your clipping your inspiration signal not the amp if you back off the master on your board and turn the gain up on the speakers and try to hit limit before you hit clip
When I’m doing sound and someone is singing on my mics when they raise they voice loud or scream through mic I always get clip lights through my tops is there anything I can do to keep the mics from clipping no matter how loud someone is!
@@hollywoodthedj1673 gain stage right get most volume out of your mixer without clipping the channel or the master bus then raise the speakers gain until limit then back off a bit make sure you compress your vocals and master good
Just Subscribed. Miami, FL - OK, so finally more of the music that I play as well as live sound (not taking anything away from The Sound Couple - love their videos). I was considering the Presonus CDL12p to start with as a line array. Overall do you have any regrets with them? I would be running a similar set up. I have 4 EV ETX 18P or I have 4 dual 18 passive subs for larger events.
The red is the line signal. Think of that as the clip/distortion signal of any mixer. The yellow is the limit light for the amp. Meaning the amplifier has put out its max power at the time that light flashes. This speaker has a very sensitive line level (red). I’ve noticed that with these o run my mixer -7db less than with any other speaker. Also boosting the speakers at about +2db kinda even things out to where the limit and clip lights both flash at the same time
Yeah there’s a clip of it in the video. Next gig I will explain what I’ve noticed. The input signal has a low tolerance. Which causes the input signal to clip before the amp actually limits. My next experiment would be to run the speakers at +5db.
I just bought 6 of those and I didn’t have any chance to configure them on properly set up bc I was used it asap, so I have a lot of clipping that I have to turn my system down around -5.0
Looks like your subs were constantly clipping, I assume that’s what the lights flashing on the front mean. Next time, try using 2 boxes per-side. No reason to reinforce sound waves to the ground.
The front LED is just a warning. Gotta go off the LED Screen on the back. I’ve been taught flashing is ok. But when it holds or that LED screen on the back says LIMIT in bold, that’s when you back off
You had me at "Presonus." I have been a HUGE Presonus fan for about 13 years. They are DEFINITELY not long throw speakers. I read the specs on it and it says they're focused. At 1000 watts peak 100 feet outside makes sense. Now I gotta go get some and fly them. LOL!
The CDL12P is such a clear sounding box. Not harsh at all. You can hear that clarity with your videos.
Thank you for your videos. I appreciated your first video with the CDL's, because I also agreed that a dj might not appreciate these speakers. I have only two at the moment. I do sound for a wedding band and through the years, when the seniors see larger (or Newer) speakers, they usually start off with the fingers in the ears on their way INTO the room! LOL Keep posting please.
OMG .. I'm dying of laughter .. "Where's all my cougars at". I just found this tonight.. nice job on the rig. I was surprised to see you doing the bass bin so that the sound wouldn't kick back on the stage.
DJ King Vick always enjoy watching your videos and seeing you grow your business! We took a trip through Jonesboro last year and met lots of friendly people.
That’s dope. Jonesboro can be a cool place to be at times. And thanks bub
Great setup bro. I just got 2 CDL12P for my karaoke setup at home, along with an 18 sub. So far, it sounds amazing. Do you also use a separate program to tune the CDL12P internally or leave it on default? Also, the inputs for CDL12P are from your outs of your subs? Thanks
Definitely graduated from your Peavey rig 🔥🔥🔥
I miss it lol… I loved and still do love that SP series
First, I want to say that I really like your videos. I did see the one in your shop.
I also have CDL12P speakers. Two per side. I have two “pro X” lift stands that go up to 18’. They’re made for a truss, but I put my two on top using the hole on the bottom of the speaker. This works okay for just the two, but I, like you, want to add another speaker per side.
I have the parts needed to hang the array, but have not found a way to attach them to the stand I have since it doesn’t allow for the speakers to hang in front of the stand. In other words, I got the wrong stands. They were $1600 each. Anyway…
I too have the limit lights coming on on my speakers. I have tried to increase the output of the speakers so I need less “gas” on the mixer to get them as loud, but find it goes into limit anyway. I leave the outputs at 0. As long as limit is not steady, I pretty much ignore it as there is no degradation of the speaker signal coming out.
What I would like to see is how you connect each speaker in your setup and get it up in the air.
Again, great video!
I use my light stands for the pole mount option also. Idk how much weight I can put on my subs, so I rather not test it. Not yet at least til I find some info on that.
I could do a video on how I fly them
@@lamarcobbs1 I would like to see a video on how you fly them.
I have put both speakers on a pole in my sub per side. I don’t do this as much anymore since I’ve been putting them up higher in the air. High enough so that the bottom of the bottom speaker is aimed at the first row of audience. I can send sound quite the distance in this case. However, the top of the top speaker is going out into space, I’ve noticed. Kind of defeats the purpose. This is why I need to fly them from the fly grid. So then I can angle the top downward to get the top of the top speaker aimed at the rear of the audience which would require the trim height to be much higher. Constant curvature speakers are that way, though.
I got a couple of these. Feels like they clip quite easily
Nice i used to do sound Renforcement
lol get those in the air man! I know you said it but this is hilarious lol
Great video, sir ... doing sound production has always been a passion for me. I've been in studio recording for years, and now I want to try my hand at the outdoor live sound. Could you possibly give me a run down of your equipment list excluding the lights 😅 please sir
That’s a lot to do. Maybe I can at my next live sound gig
Sounds great!! Do you use any compression on vocals and drums? Seem’s like thats what’s clipping the CDL’s.
For sure I do. It does it with prerecorded music also. But you’ve made me full guilty lol. I’m a sucker for drum toms.
😂😂 the drums sound awesome on video! Idd say even better in person!! Keep up the great work. Maybe try some kinda system management like a DBX drive rack. Whats those cdl’s being high passed at?
@@carlphillips1992 I have DBX AFS. I crossover at 102 Hz.
Are you running full audio to the CDL12P. If you was to bi-amp and roll off the low going to them that would help the clipping. On the amp. Am am saving up to get 4 and I am going to run them 3 way with a sub and low mid then the CL12P on top should sound great!
I’ve figured them out. These are powered speakers though, so there isn’t a bi-amp option for my version of CDL12P. I have both a HPF from my mixer board and the HPF inside the speaker DSP initiated.
Did you set up the stage and if you did what are you using to hold your shade covers?
Yes I did. In each corner, there’s an L angle metal welded to the stage. I bolt 10 feet square tube poles to those. At the top of the poles are eye bolts. Just hook the shade panels to those with hooks or shackles
what is the name of the band with the lady in blk/green?
how much power are your feeding your system?
The band members where just a few guys the singers were comfortable with. Keys idk him, bassist is that lady’s husband, drummer is one of my local friends.
Had two 3600 watt generators, one 15 amp extension cable coming directly from venue, and just for caution, I ran my lighting with one of the vendors (my brother) generator.
What brand subs did you use and how many and how were they setup?
2 EV EKX 18 set up normally on the ends of the stage. 4 EKX 15 set up in cardiod on the sides of the stairs.
I want two more 18s so that I can set those up in cardiod also
Who’s the singer from 7 mins on? Excellent!
Jonté Mayon
Nice video! Did you ever figure out what happened with the one that shut off?
Yea I had to get it serviced. It was an internal issue
Your clipping your inspiration signal not the amp if you back off the master on your board and turn the gain up on the speakers and try to hit limit before you hit clip
Doing that is exactly what I’ve told another commenter earlier. Next show I plan to run them at +5db
When I’m doing sound and someone is singing on my mics when they raise they voice loud or scream through mic I always get clip lights through my tops is there anything I can do to keep the mics from clipping no matter how loud someone is!
@@hollywoodthedj1673 gain stage right get most volume out of your mixer without clipping the channel or the master bus then raise the speakers gain until limit then back off a bit make sure you compress your vocals and master good
What subs were you running? It looked like you had 6 of them
2 EV EKX 118
4 EV EKX 115
Just Subscribed. Miami, FL - OK, so finally more of the music that I play as well as live sound (not taking anything away from The Sound Couple - love their videos). I was considering the Presonus CDL12p to start with as a line array. Overall do you have any regrets with them? I would be running a similar set up. I have 4 EV ETX 18P or I have 4 dual 18 passive subs for larger events.
I won’t say I have any regrets. After working around the clipping / limiter issue, they are pretty solid. Just heavy
They sound great
@@lamarcobbs1 Did you go up on the Gain on the CDL’s to work out the clipping issue?
@@THEREALDJREDD I will be in the next show. I have a live sound gig in the 30th with them
Friend, is the limit normal? it turns red on this speaker, it scares me
The red is the line signal. Think of that as the clip/distortion signal of any mixer.
The yellow is the limit light for the amp. Meaning the amplifier has put out its max power at the time that light flashes.
This speaker has a very sensitive line level (red). I’ve noticed that with these o run my mixer -7db less than with any other speaker. Also boosting the speakers at about +2db kinda even things out to where the limit and clip lights both flash at the same time
Did you have any clipping experience?
Yeah there’s a clip of it in the video. Next gig I will explain what I’ve noticed. The input signal has a low tolerance. Which causes the input signal to clip before the amp actually limits. My next experiment would be to run the speakers at +5db.
@@lamarcobbs1 do you use any crossover or sound management?
@@admarbass79 yeah my mixer crossover the subs x mains at 101 Hz
@@lamarcobbs1 ok I was talking about if you was using like the dbx driverack pa2 or any similar
I just bought 6 of those and I didn’t have any chance to configure them on properly set up bc I was used it asap, so I have a lot of clipping that I have to turn my system down around -5.0
Looks like your subs were constantly clipping, I assume that’s what the lights flashing on the front mean. Next time, try using 2 boxes per-side. No reason to reinforce sound waves to the ground.
The front LED is just a warning. Gotta go off the LED Screen on the back. I’ve been taught flashing is ok. But when it holds or that LED screen on the back says LIMIT in bold, that’s when you back off
Four of your CDLs were aiming down....
Great video man.......👍...... please consider getting more Subs