The Sound Couple - New Bands...New Sounds!
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- Опубліковано 4 жов 2024
- The Sound Couple is out on a corporate gig without Stacy again!
This gig was a relaxed and wonderful change of pace for us to focus on mixing styles of music that we don't receive many opportunities to do.
The SC loves these midweek, early nights, and nice budget gigs! We go the extra mile, which includes assisting bands with their instruments on/off stage.
Sit back as we take a pause to allow you to see more in depth how the Sound Couple works with new bands and plenty of action with Bart inside the van instead of Stacy!
The Sound Couple primarily use PreSonus gear featuring:
PreSonus UC Surface
PreSonus CDL12
PreSonus CDL18s
PreSonus 32R
PreSonus SW5E
PreSonus NSB Stageboxes
PreSonus AVB-D16
Please see our "About" for a more comprehensive list of gear we use.
Another great video from sound couple…this time with some very nice jazz band and gospel band…well thank you
What nice change, right?
He killin me with the sandles lol🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Can you teach an old dog new tricks? I did let him know how much flack he caused...he just smiled 😎
@@thesoundcouple Right lol
Sounds really good. Great job.
Thank you! This was a nice change of pace!
I've always check the power at any location that I haven't been to in a fair amount of time and I've never had problems because of it. It's also usually convenient because then it's a good opportunity to find out where the breaker panel is as well.
Good to see Jed’s got the safety shoes on.
Should I have sent him home?
@@thesoundcoupleWill your insurance be happy with a pay out, would they drop you (likely in the best case scenario) or take your LLC to court and put you in a position to start all over again?
A broken foot orthopedic workup/surgery is a HUGE payout in the U.S. Requiring proper footwear is cover-your-you-know-what for the business.
Even if you win lawsuits can and will cost tens of thousands, and no, the losing party will not be ordered to recompense.
@@slofty Things work a bit differently in the US. Jed is an independent contractor so that makes Jed responsible for Jed, not us. How an independent contractor works is up to them and we compensate their labor, but they are responsible for the outcomes of his decisions. There are negligence protections, but what shoes he chooses to wear is not part of that...that's his freedom of choice. Unfortunately, we see personal responsibility shifting in this country as more people here are eager to shift blame and make others responsible for their outcomes, and they are winning....The day I ever have to tell someone how to dress to cover our own liability is the day we pack it up!
Ya, Jed definitely came dressed for a jazz gig 😂
I'm currently training to become a sound technician and that's why I love your videos. Please carry on and stay as you are

Thank you for sharing and coming along with us....every video is a journey!
Best drum roll I’ve seen in awhile 🥁
and we happen to catch it!
Watching the first drummer set up is driving me crazy! I said two or three times to the TV “Just set up your drums!” by the way, great video as always! Thank you for keeping them coming.
The spectrum of time for drummers is huge to get their kits up! We have beat some drummers out the door while others are gone before you realize it!
@@thesoundcouple As a drummer myself, even if you are the only band setting up at a venue, it is still best practice to pre-setup the drums off stage, so as to not clutter the entire stage with cases, and then setup of cymbals last at the kit. This is especially the case if the sound engineer is still working through issues and still running cable, etc. And the same when loading off, take all the drums off stage as quickly as possible, and then break it down and put in cases.
@@RocketBrothersBand That makes a lot of sense....these nuances never occurred to us, but it's true that each of us have that time/space and it can be irritating when we still have work to do and we are tripping over instruments.
Great stuff "Couple" 🤣
I noticed the tornado siren in some of the early shots of the video, and who would have guessed it was siren test day? If you are familiar with Community loudspeakers, they manufacture the custom 400W compression driver for that siren, which has four of them.
Wow! That is cool...never imagined we would get some information on something like that!
I grew up in Minnesota and I remember siren tests occuring 1st Wednesdays at 1:00.
@@briangray4640 and the dogs just love it!
Thanks, Bart, for sharing this unique “load-in over the fence in downtown two band gig.” We had lots of opportunities to learn valuable lessons from the way you handled the challenges of this venue and the requirements of this client. It was good to see Stacy at the end of the video, too.
Thanks for your continued support Dean! We have a few more lessons to share. If not, at least we can be entertaining!
4:17 HAHAHAH I'm not alone!!!!!!!!!!
I got a gig last year that was weekly on Friday for approximately 3 months. This year they decided to do every other week.
Last year it never happened but there is a siren on the roof of this the tallest and only four-story building in a small town, a full on air raid siren and the fire department uses it as a fire siren. This year it's happened twice on a Friday.
The local B&Bs have to warn their guests, thankfully I've managed to just barely get lucky enough to remember this year to warn the bands breaking my streak of luck I think.
It's kind of weird because it's on the building that we're next to it sounds like it's coming from behind the area due to the reflections when it's in fact above and right next to the area.
im happy to waching again. thank you
Beautiful mix Bart....real natural sounding (well to me lol) love it
Thank you!
Thanks for including the alarm.
It was in the title...LOL!
That's most jazzy soundcheck/ set up I have heard and without a sax at that.
Oh shucks barely saw the drummer request. I like to go after the Soundcheck song and ask if they need any more adjustments and in going into a break as well.
That way if I missed any requests mid song I'm reminding them to remind me and I can fix it for the next set or the start. If I don't catch it during in the moment.
That's a good idea to follow up. If they leave the stage without saying anything...I assume everything is ok. I do get annoyed that when they split immediately to go on break and come up to me seconds before starting and then request something....you couldn't have told me earlier??
could you make a video where you explain how you use the effects? reverb, delay... the levels that you adjust in the monitors. I get a little confused when I mix a band. sorry for my bad english
That's a great question that I will answer for you...the use of FX is something you need to find your own voice on as there is no really right or wrong...but perhaps some guidelines that we use. Reverb: drums/horns/vocals. Delay: Vocals. For both FX turn it up to where it's noticeable and then back it off (that's our preference). We prefer a short delay at about 150ms with minimal feedback for delays. All of this depends on the style of music and room acoustics. We will use a tap delay on vocals to for certain songs when appropriate. What style of FX? Whatever sounds good to you but there are certain definitions of what a type of effect is generally used for what...all topics that are really covered with an endless stream of opinions on the Internet. The point is for you to sit down with a mic and mixer and explore!
referrals means you're doing it right
Thank you. Referrals are a great sign of just that, but we realize they are not the foundation of our business. We realize we have commented on this more lately and don't want to mislead the fact that it's our core clients that drive our business, not referrals. Referrals are great for many reasons including your comment!
Hey Bart have you seen the new Sennheisser md421 kompakt (I think I spelled that right)lol
Man talk about some talent and a good mix!
This was a great gig! Thanks!
Ha.. that alarm must be loud as _______ You two jumped out of your shoes!!!... LOL .. That thing was right out of the movie 1984
I am little jumpy by nature and it was very loud! And there it was again!
Great video again. I was considering buying the cdl but bought a whole EV System. I also run the sq5 mixer it holds up well just very expensive. It might be time to get some up lights and moving heads lights.
Building a system is an adventure! We went big on our wireless mic system and glad we did when we did. Seems like prices just keep going up!
@@thesoundcoupleprices have gone berserk!
@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup Not calling out Shure, but they seem to just keep raising prices frequently without much regard...I can only assume it's working for them, but no way we could even consider some of there products now...some nearly doubling in price the past few years.
great job
Thank you and thanks for taking the time to watch!
Wow.... That singer had a lot of dynamics ... I would have used the FET compressor with her
Sure...not a bad choice.
Can you describe a time you didn't check the power and it damaged your equipment?
Sure! We once were wired into 3 phase power and did not realize it. We had amplifiers then and it took two of them out...thankfully it was blown fuses, but the amps were out of service for that event. More recently, a sound buddy of mine was provided an extension cord that the venue wired 220v by accident. Took out his RCF sub...Our CDL cabs would have been fine since the power supplies are universal and can handle 220V...still doesn't make it right! In one of our gig logs, we were at an outdoor show and there was no ground! Didn't ruin any gear, but it was certainly a safety issue and we got rained on....what disaster did we potentially avoid? ua-cam.com/video/ro9rZaSBdRI/v-deo.htmlsi=D9C38L9Teo1P1PYX
You could update the firmware that sometimes fixes things.
Yes Sir! We stay up to date!
Y'all need a Sonnect Sound Bullet for line testing. 😀
We have thought about it, but we have a similar device with our Cricket: galaxyaudio.com/products/cpts/
@@thesoundcoupleI have that Cricket device as well. If you don't have Smaart it helps with speaker phase. Sound bullet is a bit different.
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Were you satisfied with kick+overheads for drums? I'm always trying to simplify and want to try this at next appropriate gig.
For this gig, absolutely. You could tell we were getting nice coverage with the brushes on snare with the first act. Not a default approach for us, but a nice option especially when you are not sure what to expect.
For this style of music this is absolutely enough. Some solid overhead mics will catch so much detail and dynamic playing... the dynamics are so important for this.
I've recently had the opportunity to mix some instrumental jazz music, the stage plot I received asked for 2 overheads only. No kick or snare.
I brought along two SM81s and it was absolutely enough. 2 well placed overheads can go a long way.
@@theflyingalamo Do you have experience using kick+overheads only with rock/pop? OH positioned to focus on drums?
@@davidbrock6263 for rock and pop I'd absolutely get the snare with a mic too. If it's a quick throw and go gig I might just do kick snare. But would rather close mic every shell. In smaller venues vocal mics will pick up all of the cymbal you could ever need.
For quick 15 minute changeover multi band festivals I've done kick/snare/overheads with great success.
But if I have time, I want a mic on every shell. 2 OHs, and a high hat mic.
Hey guys, great work again! How are the 328ai holding up? I seen an amazing deal at music go round website but they misadvertised and no longer will ship their larger speakers and gear, im still heart broken lol I keep asking if they’ll reconsider for me.
Really want to get my hands on those speakers something about them is so appealing to me
They have been workhorses for us over the years. As straight up monitors, there are probably better choices, but these sound great when they are dialed in. Also, we can throw anything at them and they take it....don't worry about them at all.
@@thesoundcouple love that for you guys. Keep up the good work
I think your wedges are TOO big..... They take up so much space. Ever thought of something with coaxial ?
These cabinets are coaxial.
Appreciate the quick response. I see the drummer for the jazz band had the miniature kick drum do you find those easy to deal with?
For this type of music, not at all. I do get uncomfortable when a drummer does not have a port for other styles of music like rock or funk.
Thanks Bart for sharing. Jedd provided some great support & looks in shape - but one big no-no for me was "thongs" or flip flops as you call them. Generally not safe and can cause trips or slips etc. Sturdy footwear please. I'm not sure if it was the little fence around the venue or that you didn't seem to use trolleys, but bump out and loading the van seems quicker with Stacy.
Yeah...I think that's just how he rolls. Part of the challenge was the fact that the shortest distance was through that fence. In addition, we needed to stay staggered which lead to me doing most of the pack in the van. I am not as good at it as Stacy and hand carrying slows down too. As I was watching, I wondered if carting everything up and going around would have been quicker for both of us to be at the van....but then Jed would have been waiting for me to call things out to pack. Stacy and I definitely have a system, and thanks for noticing how things change when we aren't doing this together and our process is hindered. That's exactly the point I was trying to make in extending some parts....process and continually trying to improve them is never ending!
"Power Cycle". That seems so strange to me. I use four different Allen & Heath mixers and NEVER had to power cycle them. Weird.
Yes...the PreSonus world and AVB can have its moments....it's getting much better though.
@@thesoundcoupleshould be better after their certification is done and implemented into the firmware! I had a faulty 32R too., that made me look bad at more than one gig. Finally have some backups, so it's in Baton Rouge under warranty repair (cold start issues).
I have had to power cycle the QU-16 I use at fixed FoH installation, twice I think.
@@XIIMonkeysMusicGroup I jinxed myself! For the first time ever, I had to power cycle my SQ-5!! Never before! It worked at sound check but then a short time later all the sound was garbled! At first I thought it was a bad EtherCon cord. Everything went back to normal when I power cycled the SQ-5. Thankfully this was BEFORE the start of the band. Frikkin' weird! So there ya go!
@@williamthesoundguybalestri1745 Every digital device shares some of the same chips, regardless of brand, place of manufacturing, or quality. And they all glitch at some point. The power cycle moves it past the glitch. It's when they have to be power cycled multiple times in a startup is when there's more of a problem, and not just the chips (voltage problems internally can cause the serious problems. This is what my 32R experienced. And it was a known issue with PreSonus during COVID years. I'm on the A&H forums too, and some of them, QU and SQ, also suffered a similar problem. The QU I use is 2014 though. Its power cycle times is the standard digital chip problems).
Your worker for the day was wearing flip-flops. Not advisable footwear for a job like that. Just a thought...
Yes...not practical but that's his style!
@@thesoundcouple I wouldn't wanna drop something! LOL!
We hired a concrete guy that did the same thing...now what could go wrong there!@@williamthesoundguybalestri1745
excellent videos Thank you, I have a question for you, I bought a presonus studio live 16r but there is no audio in the headphone output since I bought it, is it some configuration or a factory defect?
Under the settings wheel in Universal Control, there is a Monitoring section which includes how you want headphone out to function and what you want it to monitor (main, solo, aux) and a volume knob. The 32r also has a master physical volume knob on the unit itself. So lot's of flexibility but lots of places make sure things are configured properly to fit your needs.
@@thesoundcouple Perfect, I'll try it and tell you later. Thank you for your attention.
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Your complete wacthing all video
We appreciate you taking the time to watch!
are you guys doing sound full time or you have other jobs...
The Sound Couple is part time...both Stacy and I work day jobs!
is it just me, or is that a metric sh*t tonne of totes for such a small gig? I feel like one cable trunk on wheels and you'd be sorted, cutting load in/out time drastically. Looked like a fun little gig though! I always like a good jazz combo like that, and could she ever sing!
Just our standard pack plus tarps? This gig was certainly a nice change of pace for us!
@@thesoundcouple fair enough.... I've always just been a pack what I need for the gig kinda guy, rather than leaving the truck loaded always. it's a bit more work on the front end, but I always found things at the gig were less chaoric, and the in's and outs were always quicker
I get accused of "too much gear" too, until I have something that's needed, cause it's in my kit!
Why was that siren screaming? Is this some sort of bombing raid?
This are used to warn of severe weather. They are tested monthly and this was a test .
@@thesoundcouple Thank you for your answer. In Poland, they are used in volunteer fire brigades to summon firefighters and are mechanically driven by an electric motor.
In what area do you operate the sound system?
@@jacekalchimowicz1321 Thanks for sharing! We are located in Minneapolis, Minnesota.
Hey Bart,...but your new technician's shoes don't seem very appropriate to our profession!
The Sound Couple needs to update their shoe policy!
@@thesoundcouple 😂
You supposed to duck and cover or what when you hear the Air Raid Warning.
😂 unless it’s the first Wed of the month at 1:00 PM!
What are these speakers you use correct me if I’m wrong they look like speakers array
In this video, we were using the PreSonus CDL12's for mains and PreSonus 328ai's for monitors. They are technically a "point source array" so kind of a hybrid speaker of a traditional and line array.
@@thesoundcouple What is the main difference of the hybrid CDL12 and the normal point source CDL12p? What made you choose the hybrid w/ dante?
@@LG1685h The "P" series were not offered when we bought ours. There are DSP control differences, but the main difference is the "P" series is made of polypropylene and the original CDL's are made of wood. Presonus.com has all of the specs their products.
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I really want to work woth you guys how do i do that for free though
Thanks for your interest!
Excuse me, can I use a PRESONUS NSB Stage Box for a studio live 16r and what exactly is it for? Sorry for the question, I'm new to this.
Yes you can, but I believe the 16r is limited to 16 channels total, so you would need to stick to an NSB 8x8 or 16X8. They allow you to distribute your channel inputs beyond just the mixer.
@@thesoundcouple So it only serves as a digital snake? Can't you make more than 16 inputs?
@@fraerstudio2328 No...a stage box will not extend physical input count beyond what the console itself supports.
@@thesoundcouple how kind thank you man
Which meter are you using to test the current distribution box?
We have an Ideal Suretest. Not cheap, but definitely cheap insurance!
When you are on the MAIN (FOH View) on the iPad and making a track Solo (at 31:20, making OverheadR SOLO), does it make only Overhead R to be heard on the FOH? Or do you still hear everything else, I am a bit confused?!!
I was a little off camera, but I was sol'ing so I could listen in my PSM 300 in-ears. The solo did not impact what you heard through FOH.
Hey Bart, at 29:53 Sarah (the vocalist) is giving you a signal to lower something. It seems like you are doing something on your iPad but it didnt reflect on the iPad screen of the video. What did you do, lowered the volume on Sarah's mix? Thanks.
Ahhhh...crap! I apologize...the the screen sync got messed up and didn't realize it! I brought down the mixes at 29:47. The front monitors were on two separate mixes. Sorry about that!
IKR, it seems like a nightmare to sync the cam video and the stream of the mixer's video. Great job Bart! @@thesoundcouple
Final Cut makes it manageable with its sync to audio feature. I just screwed up somewhere in the editing. It's all there, just not together in this segment...oops. @@soundgineering4771
which you prefer cdl10 or cdl12P for gigs like yours in the video
We will likely be using our CDL12's more because that's what we have more of. If we were starting again, we would consider whether 4 CDL 10P's would do the job....which they would for the majority of gigs we do. However, we still some bigger shows or outdoor where the CDL12's are needed. So the CDL10's would scale us at our limits where the CDL12's leaves us some space....which makes sense, they are a bigger cabinet. Aaah, to answer your question on this video...the CDL10's would have worked just fine here.
@@thesoundcouple cdl12p for 1 each sides can accomodate bigger events like big functionhalls and largebasketball courts?
@@thesoundcouple and during your gigs how many max people can accomodate with cdl-12p
@@thesoundcouple my main foh now is fbt x pro 112 A point source speaker if I upgraded to presonus cdl12p is this will be a greater leap to my upgrade and setup?
@@jirehhumbertdiwa7369 Your questions are very subjective as the space is only one consideration. We can't answer this question for you, but we have literally hundreds of videos on our channel showing gigs and different applications that we use our system for. Hopefully they can provide you the information needed to get a sense of how they would fit with your needs.
Should wear a belt for ur back . Lifting that heavy equipment.
Thanks for the suggestion...we work out on a regular basis and lift with our legs. Most of our lifts are 50lbs or less which we believe we should be able to handle that when doing this type of work.
What it is that alarm 4:14 - 5:21
That's a severe weather siren...they will go off to inform you that threatening weather is approaching. They are tested on the first Wednesday of every month and that is what this was..just a test.
2 band
Complexity goes way up when you account for two bands regardless of their needs!
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When you accept free stuff from the big wig audio dealers you get black listed.
Not sure what your goal here with this comment with no basis. Do you need to see our receipts? PreSonus sent us the CDL 10p’s/Sub18’s to review…we fully disclosed that in our videos. Other than that, it’s all us pal. Nobody owns us or tells us what gear to use. We have no contract besides an NDA with PreSonus which is standard business They were nothing but helpful and asked for nothing from us but to use the gear if we had a use for it, which we actually do! Seems like a win/win. The rest of the gear we own with a lot of sweat and hard work. Your comment is extremely offensive to us as our channel is about as real as it gets- we would appreciate if you and don’t watch us or comment. Utter BS!
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Don't like the air raid sirens
To clarify, the siren is for severe weather warnings. They are tested monthly which is what was going on here.
這天是什麼日子 為什麼會有空襲警報
這是星期三…警報不是空襲，而是惡劣天氣警報，每個月都會進行測試。 測試發生在我們準備的時候。
As a drummer, the 1st drummer is annoying the heck outta me 😅
Thank you for validating our choices of what to let play out. We weren't trying to call out anyone, but watching other people work is very valuable. Unfortunately, that can be considered "boring" to some, but there is so much to be learned and we don't have the opportunities to see others work in this capacity...whether it's us or anyone else.
Stacy is the worker,be a man Bart not a guy that blames everyone else for problems that occur! You're not as good as You think You are, anyone agree?
Oh, so you must be super human, or not human at all then.
Ouch!
I have personal opinion sence i do this type of work sometimes. You could of just use 2 12s tops one 18 single sub and 2 12s monitors for that type of gig my friend. That event was pieace of Cake .
Many factors involved in determining what gear ultimately ends up on the stage....yes, your logic can be applied to any show yet the final product and outcomes can vary greatly.
He brought minimal gear really.