Collings OM1 Satin vs. Gloss
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- Опубліковано 18 вер 2020
- What was the first thing we thought of when we recevied these two new OMs from Collings? Whether we could tell a difference between the Satin finish and the gloss. Jesse's done his best to find any differences he could hear, but let's see what you think! Let us know!
Collings OM1 A Traditional (ID#13984):
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Collings OM1 A Traditional Satin Sunburst (ID#13986):
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1:59 Gloss picking
6:03 Gloss strumming
4:11 Satin picking
5:09 Satin strumming
Thanks me later
Wonderful guitars, great presentation. Nice job as always, J.
Your guys videos have the best recorded sound. Even on my terrible iPhone speakers your mics sound better than a lot of other recordings. Great playing and great recording. I look forward to many videos to come!
Joshua Henderson thank you for the very kind words, much appreciated. Credit of course goes to our spokesperson Jesse, but also to our sound engineer Austin McCool, and the Rode NT5 mic.
Both are so great.
That satin has a slight edge from what I am hearing.
Can’t help but think the standard variation between two guitars would account for the subtle difference more than the finish.
The satin finish Collings was much snappier and loud to my ear. Most satin finish guitars have a much more diffused sound. Collings definitely makes the best guitars these days. Such a balanced yet deep sound across all the strings up and down the neck.
Nice assessment! We love our people at Collings, and it seems every new guitar that enters the shop becomes our favorite.
Its really easy to find out whats going on,satin is a woodier more open sound and gloss is a tighter but more clearly articulated with more space between the notes.
love the gloss one
Fantastic video. Great sound, great guitars, great sense of humor. I'm a big fan of just-one-shot videos with no edits (and recordings of a similar nature--like Michael Hedges' Breakfast in the Field album). That's art, right there. As far as difference in sound....
I like Dan Stevens' comment below, that matte finished guitars tend to have a more diffused sound. Maybe less focused. Sometimes I wonder if there's also less sustain somehow, but I don't know the physics that would be involved. Maybe it's a aural illusion. It's also like I'm hearing more wood in the wood-string sonic ratio mix. I feel like they might kind of roll off the highs a bit, or maybe it's just I'm hearing more of the other frequencies than with a gloss finish, and that my ear is deceived. I think the gloss finished sound is a little bit brighter--like it's reflecting sound a little more.
It's hard to believe that such a small difference could have a noticeable effect on the sound, but I think I've always felt there was a difference. Maybe the harmonics might stand out a bit better with a gloss finish. Satin sounds a little "drier"--definitely a lot warmer. I'm thinking about getting a better quality steel string than I have heretofore, and this little point actually really has me stuck. I tend to go with matte finished guitars because they are so immediate and warm, but then I feel like maybe some of the overtones aren't standing out as much as I'd like. I've actually sanded down the gloss finish on a couple of cheap guitars, and noticed an immediate improvement in sound--I think in volume, but definitely in warmth and richness.
In the case of these two guitars, I prefer the sound of the matte-finished one (small surprise for me). Oddly, though, my guitar heroes (like Michael Hedges and Phil Keaggy) often seem to be playing gloss-finished guitars, and I love the way they sound. So maybe I should give a really good gloss finished guitar a chance break in and warm up, and then I'll have the best of both worlds?
The other thing that has me stuck is spruce vs. cedar. But that's another thread...
There you go. My two cents.
Great video and explanation of what you are hearing too in the room. I thought the satin was more resonant and had a warmer bass, also more responsive dynamically. I'll go with what Mr. Lage likes. I trust his ears and love how he collaborated with Bill Collings and helped steer the ship in a new direction. Full steam ahead! 🙂
THANKS, Donnie.
Dang it y'all ... not only am I now subscribed BUT I am craving a Collings too
Can't pick. So I'll have 1 of each please
I really thought that the Gloss sounded snappier, brighter and stood out more. Its funny because I was expecting the Satin to do so due to my wife's 114CE Taylor being Matte and my 314CE being a Gloss finish. I actually like the tone of her guitar much better than mine. I see that this is the exact opposite of what most people say. I will have to go back in and re-listen with headpohones!
lol,, I immediately recognized those chords.. then the words ''Welcome back...''
The satin sounds better to me. Comparitively the nitro sounds muted. The satin sounds like it is vibrating more freely and is livelier. It sounds like an older guitar even though it's brand new. As the nitro on very old guitars wears away they take on a similar tonal texture. Bright, airy, but also full. Satin all the way.
I thought the satin was a bit warmer, but airier sounding.
“Same strings, same pick, same hack” 😂😂😂 Your playing sounds great to me (truly), but that was funny!
I like the Satin better. It seems a little mellower. Artisan is a great store.
Colby Jack, thanks so much for your kind words! Much appreciated!
Both guitars sounded really good but the satin had more snap, the notes sounded crisper and clearer on it. I preferred how the satin version sounded.
The satin sounds better to me. The gloss sounds fantastic also, but maybe a little more controlled…boxier. It sounds like the sound is coming out of the soundhole. The satin sounds like the sound is coming out of the whole guitar! It sounds woody and lively and wonderful. But the gloss still sounds great…just love the satin. Great demo!
We agree, the thin nitrocellulose lacquer on the Satin models make them quite responsive as a brand new guitar.
Thanks. Is there any difference between a matte finish and a satin finish or that they are the same?
Yes, the terms satin and matte are often used to denote the same finish. Though there are satin (matte) finished in both nitrocellulose lacquer and polyester UV light cured. Beware the difference.
@@ArtisanGuitars Thank you, but why should I 'beware of the difference?'
Nitro is a more pliable finish, allowing the top and back to vibrate more easily. That creates a more robust instrument right from the start. Poly is durable but stiff, more dampening vibration.
So I can't get it. Some people say that gloss is calmer and mellower sound, some say that satin is more mellower, for me satin sounded brighter... How is it really??? I also heard that gloss mutes the sound a little so you shoud go with satin...
Hey Rinni, when it comes to the different finishes and the way they affect a guitar's sound, it helps to understand the processes of applying those finishes. With a Collings high-gloss finish, there are actually three coats of nitro applied, which will create quite a stiff gloss layer (not nearly as hard as polyester). However, there's a different formula to the nitro satin finish, and it will only be applied in one step, making a much thinner coverage that allows the guitar to vibrate or breathe more, which in turn would make the guitar more responsive and have more tonality. Thanks for the question, hope this helps!
I prefer gloss just cause all my satin gutiars were so easy to damage.
Satin has the Master Volume🎚
Satin finished sounds better on solid acoustic guitar.
Satin sounds “softer”. Gloss sounds “tighter” and more “pointy”.
The satin rings out much clearer.