Installing 14 inch Edelbrock Air Cleaner on Chevy TBI 88-95
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- Опубліковано 3 жов 2024
- I finally needed an upgrade from my crummy original air intake system. Naturally aspirated old engines already don’t make a lot of power especially aged, I knew my truck was lacking the air it needed so I helped it breath better. I’ll walk you through the whole process of swapping out your old 2 stud TBI to a single and give you accurate single stud information.
Thanks for your time and video.. did mine,but went chrome,and my old style Grant Steering wheel.. turned my $1000 Chevy Pick Up Truck into a Priceless Historic Gem.. lol
I ❤️ My Chevy Truck 😊
Love to hear that brother! When I redo the truck one day she’ll get some more chrome🥰
Looks good. I like the fact tgat it takes up less room under the hood and it looks better too.
“it’ll be fine, it’s a chevy” i find myself saying the same thing 😂
The only reason on not getting rid of all those pieces is if you live in a state that does emissions tests. It'll fail with this setup. Other than that it sounds and looks better than turning the cover upside down.
He probably doesnt live in one if hes doing this duh
And not all of them even have a visual inspection nor care. Pretty much just cali goes into apoplexy when you use any non OEM part.
CA laws are funky but if you know how to interpret them you can work around them. I don't know chevy trucks, I'm actually watching this in interest of putting a TBi style intake on a carburetor in the interest of having a modern filter housing. Anywho, as long as there are no sensors or emissions related pieces in the air intake you can replace it. I'm pretty sure K&N and other systems are legal in CA because they reuse your original MAF sensor for cars that have one at the airbox. Since yours is merely a filter housing you should be able to put anything you want on it. If the guy at the smog shop complains about it just take it somewhere else. It's perfectly legal and smog complaint to change an air filter to a different style. Just because the tube changes or disappears doesn't mean any of the sensors downstream are affected by said change.
Compliant* damn auto correct.
Even in California you can still pass smog with aftermarket parts. As long as you have the EO # Carb sticker for the part and maintain your truck so you can pass emissions.
dude i love your truck! i got the 1993 Chevy Silverado k1500 4x4 5.7L v8 its the same color as yours teal/greanish. its the extended cab but ive been searching for a single cab!
Just got the kn one for 100 bucks got home and found out I need spacers for it, going tomorrow to get the spacer, so excited
Good luck dude! Hope you enjoy the intake!!
That small tube running from the exhaust manifold to the air intake is called a "heat riser or heat stove" and only serves to add radiant heat to the throttle body from the exhaust manifold. It works with the TAC system. Good for cold weather, I live in a hot climate so I don't have one.
Yeah, I kinda figured that one out a little later after owning the truck. Thx for the info!
Or an old style EGR
Can you install air filters like this and still have the heat pipe hooked up?
@@bretthair4249 I was wondering the same thing. Also wondering about fuel economy after this. Mine is sucking down the gas because the thermactor flap is broken off and it's sucking hot air. They don't make the oem anymore.
@@bretthair4249 yes it's actually really easy so you have to modify the inlet but basically you take the pipe and shove it through the bottom of the air intake and then put a lawn mower filter over the top. I'm not sure if that's explaining exactly how to do it. But there's no reason to have the air inlet heater unless you drive in areas that are below like 15° this mainly helps with cold engine combustion so that you don't clog up your Catholic converters. It's just another way to get the engine hot faster. I know it seems very controversy but I've had better luck with trucks that I start and just start beating on in the morning whether that be hauling ass or hauling a trailer then a truck I babied. started for 15 minutes before driving changed the oil every 3,000 miles transmission every 25,000 checked all fluids every 10,000 including dip and transfer case. I've only ever owned Chevys or Ford diesels
Your Brother sent me over and glad he did!
Here another for you, and keep them coming man!
Thanks brotha appreciate it!!! I’ll checkout your channel as well!
Blood says let me give you the vin number, I know it was a miss speak but still cracked me up
I have the same one just bought a brand new wix filter last month
I put a edelbrock pro-flo 10" on my 1990 I didn't get the stud kit..the wing nut that came with the edelbrock was to small I just reused the stock wing nut..put 2 small washers on top of the air cleaner, you can't even notice.. if not for the washers the wing nut would of been at the bottom of the threads of the stud..but it got a good tight seal no wiggle or play..
What did you do to cap off the hose that runs from the exhaust back up to the old air intake?
It comes off easily just a little tube
Idk if I did something wrong but when I installed mine.it made a weird vacuum sound.i don’t know if it needs a spacer or if I have ripped vacuum hose .im confused and need help or advise 🙏
what about your PVC valve
PVC valve connects from a valve cover to the front, central port at the base of the throttle body. No air cleaner housing sits low enough that it would ever interfere with that connection.
I need some help, that hose you said you were just going to cap off, what in the hells is that hose called ive been searching for so long trying to find a replacement. You mentioned capping it off....if it’s totally ok to do, would you find showing how you capped that off please 🙂?
I would recommend replacing, and if you don’t go that route.. Go to your local auto parts store and find a Mr.Gasket to cap off that intake spot for the PCV Valve system, where I had broke off on my. I just did a simple search, and found the factory replacement part for $6.99. Look up on whatever search engine you use ( PCV Valve Hose TBI 350) If your vehicle is similar to my, the TBI should have pretty similar parts. Hope this helps any!
Heads up to anyone who wants to put this on a 4.3 V6, you may not be able to. i tried today, and the coolant hose is in the way. im going to buy an angled one and try to make it work.
Thank you for for sharing that with everyone, I hope you get it all straightened out👍🏻
I'll just installed yesterday to my 4.3 and just pushing a little bit down against that coolant hose and I don't see change on my truck
Any update??? I been thinking about throwing it on my 1990 chevy v6 tbi. Any tips. ?
@@Livemusic1800 never got around to it, sorry. But I'm pretty sure it's possible, just get an angled water neck from Edelbrock, and it looks like there's some kind of bracket that holds wires that you'll need to bend a little. I actually just got a new 5.7 engine to put in mine, got it from jegs for about $2k, just waiting on a few more parts :)
Thanks I was going to buy one for my 88 s10
Awesome 💪🏼
OBS IS WHAT THE YOUNGSTERS CALL THEM
Took me awhile before I caught onto it lol
What did you cap that 90's technology off with?
Did you have any play between the carburetor and the bottom air cleaner lid?
Julian On the TBI stud, you just gotta adjust the height for the air cleaner to fit nice and snug. It’s ok to have a little wiggle but certainly not something major..
There's no carburetor on this engine so...
dont block off that driver side valve cover, it had a purpose. just put a breather filter on it if your not gonna go back original, your crank case has to breath. the pcv valve on the other valve cover is attached to the front of the tbi. just don't block off the driver side, you will create crank case pressure then you will have issues. plural"
What about the m.a.f?
Thanks i just ordered one ... i ordered some crap from amozon was suposed to be kn and was some junk shit . Just ordered from summit
How did you get yours to fit? I have an 89 c1500 4.3L and I can’t get it to fit. The radiator hose and vacuum get in the way
After installing that filter on your truck did it make a loud air suction noise when accelerating? I installed a Proform open air cleaner on my 92 350 and when I accelerate I can hear a loud air suction noise and goes away when I stop accelerating or if I accelerate hard so I don’t know if that’s normal or if there’s a vacuum leak somewhere, once I put the stock air cleaner it doesn’t do it anymore.
Almost positive that’s just the air cleaner doing it’s thing. It is just sucking in more air than the normal/stock one.
Sounds like you didn’t plug up where the studs used to be almost
Does it matter if I bought the same filter but chrome because the part number on mine is 1221 but it’s the same one
Oscar Santa Cruz Yes that’s fine. I much prefer the chrome myself, just got the black because it matches my engine bay better.
Did it gain any hp?
Did you notice any difference? Do you recommend?
My truck wouldn’t shift after I put this air cleaner on it. Anyone know why?
Sounds like a vacuum related problem with your transmission for the right shift points pulling from the engine
I did this switch in my 1500 but i didn’t cap off the exhaust manifold can u show me what You used in a link or something?
Not a big worry it’s closed off any ways! Look through the comments and you’ll see somebody trolling me for what I had said previously🤣
I liked the vid, I’m going to do the same. Not sure why all the shitty comments
Did you have any trouble fitting the bottom part of the Edelbrock on the TBI? I got this same one and it didn't really fit on mine. It fit fine on the carb in my older truck but didn't want to fit nice on top of the TBI. I took it back and just flipped the lid on the stock air cleaner. Also removed all that tubing and crap. So it's basically an open element air cleaner now. Seems to work fine but an Edelbrock would look nicer.
Bad ass man that always works too.. In the video I mention you need to change the factory dual stud setup to a single to hold that air cleaner.
@@BuiltTough1776 thanks! Mine only has the one center stud like a carb.
Mine only has the one center one on the tbi also, 91 c1500 with the 305 tbi, the bottom doesn't fit mine either, perhaps I need a riser or spacer? The back of the tbi gets in the way of the bottom plate.
@He4rtL3ss1 it's the ignition coil that it's hitting
i have the 4.3 in my 94 c1500, any idea if this air cleaner will fit my truck too?
Might be a little over kill.. With the right stud adapter for the TBI shouldn’t be a problem.
did you need spacer
Did u just cam off the air to the hose going to the valve cover
Yes sir
Will this work for a 95 c1500 5.7 extended cab
Yes sir it will! Your truck should be same setup as my
I have a little hose from the manifold back to the intake how do I plug that
Generally with a combination of thumb and fore-finger. 🤏👁👄👁👍
Stick a bolt in the end and wrap electrical tape around it
What cap size did you use ?
i like the truck by the way
Does this make your truck faster?
Little difference, but answer to your question is yesss. The sound is spectacular!!
@@BuiltTough1776 have you done anything else to increase the truck speed?
Is it like an air intake?
Yes it is
An air intake is the aluminum manifold that bolts to the cylinder heads. This is an air filter housing. Not even remotely similar.
Do you still nOtice a difference with the open air element
deverney823 Dude for sure! I can tell the truck breaths a lot better & when you first start the truck with choke, you can certainly hear that air cleaner! Overall it’s something I highly recommend doing to let your engine breath better and on heavy throttle you can certainly hear that intake in a healthy way!
@@BuiltTough1776 thanks! Because I ordered 1 for my 92 camaro rs.
@@BuiltTough1776 just bought 1 of these for my 68 Buick. good video thanks.
There will be a noise difference but absolutely no performance difference. You can actually calculate it mathematically.
Stock air cleaner is good for many, many times more CFM as the TBI can even produce. Even ignoring the TBI's abilities, we can go above and beyond by measuring the full engine displacement (350 cubic inches) times redline RPMs (6,000) and calculate max CFM that is even physically possible and that's only 1,215 maximum cubic feet of displacement per minute. While that's substantially more than the TBI can feed, it is still less than half of what the stock air cleaner can handle. A full open air cleaner housing like this can handle (barely) more than what the stock air cleaner can, but at only 350 cubes of displacement, an engine would have to run over 16,800 RPM for a solid minute straight to even reach the CFM that the stock air cleaner can handle.
You can calculate max physical CFM of a naturally aspirated engine by taking the displacement inches, multiplying that by redline RPMs, and then divide by the cubic inches to cubic feet (there are 1,728 cubic inches in a single cubic foot). So in this engine's case
350 × 6,000 = 2,100,000
2,100,000 ÷ 1,728 = 1,215.27
You can do the same for a boosted engine, but you need to mathematically factor in the boost numbers into your engine's potential displacement, as under boost, the cylinders are holding more NCI of air than a naturally aspirated engine of the same displacement, due to the increased pressure that it is under.
@@the-dullahan please stop.
That little tube wasn't for returning exhaust gases, it was for heating up your intake air on startup
blondishasp Thx for letting me know, now that I’m thinking about it that really does seem right😂
Is that tube that important? Cus it's missing in mine lol
SamYouPlays It’s a Chevy, she’ll be fine..
The tube isnt really important. It can help warm up faster on cold days, but I have a big open air filter on my tbi and I'm doing just fine in Wyoming
@@blondishasp572 hello, i got a question I also have that big air filter also I changed my iac valve, now I have like a hissing noise when I'm hitting the gas pedal all the way down, at idling or normal driving the noise is gone. I definitely made everything with the iac valve right, could it be the open gasket manifold where the tube was that's making the noise?
have 1989 c2500 amazon says not fit
no smog check.. you should keep your old parts
How can i have a set up like this for my newr truck i have a 96 5.7 vortec
That being the first year of a Vortec and non TBI meaning (no air cleaner) you’ll have multiple different options for after markets intakes. I’d recommend customizing the stock air box or putting in a more performance like air filter..
Wonderful, you just got rid of your nice cold air intake in exchange for a hot air intake. Your engine's gonna be sucking all that hot air around the engine and your performance will drop. Cold outside air is preferable to hot engine air.
I still have the original intake and since it’s a farm truck, it don’t matter about that.. Just a fun little project and figured I’d make a video on it. Funny.. Last time I checked I ain’t ever in traffic or a stop light. Just flying down country roads!!
every riceburning CoLd AiR InTaKe idiot in the world says this. it's not your mom's toyota.
Presuming the space between your grill and three feet (it's more) and you're moving at 15 MPH, and your intake is two square feet (it's actually even smaller) your manifold would have to be over 4,800° to radiate enough heat to make a detectable difference in temp with this style air cleaner. I actually swapped mine to this style (a different model from Edelbrock that uses the exact same base) and used the punch out to run my factory ACTS with it. It actually runs 2° colder than it did with the stock air cleaner assembly, most likely due to the fact it has more air flow and over twice as much surface contact to the air. Switching to electric fans dropped it another 2° due to increased airflow in the engine bay.
Just flip the lid over, literally free mod...
Hahah, funny story.. About a month before I bought this air cleaner for my truck, I did that🤣 My dad was like “hey son pop the hood” and then I drove it and fell in love with the intake sound!
Do you notice any change in gas mileage?
Honestly I couldn’t say man, I would assume so..
If anyone in here has some good pics or video recommendations under the hood of a 93 TBI chevy id really appreciate it. i can provide email if needed. or years that are similar. Im finishing an engine swap. And stupid me didnt label everything. Currently trying to figure out where some mounting brackets and vaccum tubes etc. go. Thanks!
Do u still need help
I can tomorow
@@davyweatherup6018 couldnt hurt, thanks man! Ive figured a few things out but pics always help
Is there some way to do this to a 1996 5.0?
It depends because you have the side port throttle body. There are cold air intakes to get
More parts could of came from your local parts store no need for special orders
Congratulations now you probably get 4 hp less and 2 mpg less lol went from intaking cool air to hot engine bay air lol reason why older cars ran cowl hoods to reduce bay temps because those filters were horrible 😄 beautiful truck though, if you still have it in that condition it'll be worth good money b4 long. Obs trucks are the next hot thing.
This truck is my baby.. So I’m gonna be holding onto her for a long time Brotha!!!
Can I do this on a 91 caprice?
Maybe a different style air cleaner & if it’s a TBI.. If you have full fuel injection you’ll have to go a different route
Maybe invest in a few cleaning rags and wipe over that bad boy.
I have Engine Degreaser for it. My issue is you have to rinse it afterwards with water and I’m a little nervous because of all the old electrical stuff..
@@BuiltTough1776 maybe try it in small amounts and use a spray bottle and wet rag? You can always cover delicate stuff with painters tape and dollar store bags. That's honestly what I'm thinking of doing.
SamYouPlays Thank you for the suggestion! I’m going to do that when I get the chance🤣
Will that fit a 1990 chevy v6 tbi ?
Yes, it should fit your truck
Can you sell me that crankcase vent hose
Not trying to be a dick but it’s part numbers. VIN# stands for vehicle identification number. Good video though.
Thanks buddy I was very young lol
I'm sorry it's just kind of f****** hilarious that you think that's a EGR I haven't finished the video so I'm sure you figure it out but that's an air inlet heater. Believe it or not your air can be too cold
Any noticable preference difference from the old to the new air filter?
Fish Poker You can hear the intake a lot more, not obnoxious though.
Over the stock intake, you're not going to get any performance increase just from changing filters like this. There is a difference of about 5% of maximum air flow, but to even hit that amount of CFM you'd have to do a ton of of work on a stock TBI 350. New cam, heads, a lot of port work, bigger injectors on a better TBI, pistons, and a new intake, as well as some rapid evac headers. So no, unless you've done all of that, there's not going to be a difference in the Edelbrock filter over the stock filter. Not to mention that the stock filter is rates at over 2,200 CFM of filtered air, meaning you'd have to run at over 10,000 RPM on a 350 engine for a solid sixty seconds straight to even outdo what the stock air cleaner is capable of, and even then, yous have to have a perfect volumetric efficiency (which defies the laws of physics). So, no. There would not be a noticeable difference outside of appearance and possibly, noise.
@@the-dullahan Thanks. Most people don't understand how an engine breaths and waste their hard earned money on K&N and so on. Engines typically suck enough air just fine. The restriction is more in the exhaust. To gain significant power, you have to change cams and changing cams won't do you any good if your heads suck. Port some used vortecs, install a steerable cam, headers, 2.5 exhaust, quality tune and you gain significant power. Other than that, leave the thing alone and keep your money in your pocket.
This fits the 5.7 too right? I might've missed it in the video if you did say it does, I have a 94 K1500 with the 350 and it's my first car and I'm looking to doing this to my truck
Yes sir, this will fit on your 350. The intake sound is great and the truck breaths a lot better! Just remember to order the new stud for your air cleaner as well.
@@BuiltTough1776 Awesome, thank you!
@@aguilar2039 Of course dude. Congrats on the truck, can’t go wrong with a Chevy!
@@BuiltTough1776 Thanks man, been wanting to get one of these since I was 12 and I got hell fucking lucky with it!
@@aguilar2039 Awesome dude, let me know how the build goes and checkout some of my other videos to actually see the truck!
You need a breather on driver side valve cover its part of the pcv system...crankcase needs to breath....cause problem down the road....and plug hole in back of spacer between throttlebody and breather...got exact same setup on my truck....but do not plug hole in valve cover...
Barry Gordon I put a Mr Gasket cap on it and the truck has run fine since. Can you give me symptoms that may occur down the road?
@@BuiltTough1776 without the breather on valve cover you will burn oil and over time blow out gaskets...oil pan...front and rear seal...it will still run...but needs air flow thru crankcase....breathers dont cost most...like $15 give or take
Barry Gordon Appreciate, thank you!
@@BuiltTough1776 yessir...dont forget to plug that hole in breather spacer....lol
@@BuiltTough1776 id send a pic of mine but not sure if i can send a pic on youtube...lol
Part numbers……not VIN numbers!
What u use for cap on manifold
I found out later that I didn’t need that hose in the first place. That came standard on the trucks, but was mainly for up north people to help warm the engine up quicker by taking heat from the manifold.
@@BuiltTough1776 so did u cap it. Reason being. I got a 1990 chevy with 454. Carburetorated. And installed 14 in filter. Make it look cleaner. Just thing it's taking to much air in. So that's why I asked if it's capped off. If that makes any sense
@@badmoforamon5989 Yeah, I get what you’re saying. If you still have the stock manifolds.. You shouldn’t have to cap it, because it was just a little circular attachment for the hose to connect right above the manifold to have a particular spot of pulling hot air for the engine. That was just a little helpful attachment, because your main intake spot was the passenger fender. Hope this helped brother!
I got mine for $40.59 on amazon.
Nathan Hill I order everything on Amazon lol, should of looked there😆
Got mine today $40 Canadian delivered to my door
MY BROTHER YOU NEED TO GET YOU SOME CARB. CLEANER AND GET TO SPAYING IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN..
Not on camera, but yes sir I did clean up that TBI!!!
Does it matter if the stud is straight?
Depends on how serious of an angle you’re talking about..
@@BuiltTough1776 haha just realized the hole was more forward than the two studs and how’d you get the two studs off?
Who else like boys
Those engines make Alot of heat don't you think it's sucking hot air??
According to the laws of physics, no, your engine would have to be WAY hotter and you'd have to be parked for it to make a different. After switching my stock assembly to an Edelbrock unit like this (different lid, sane exact base and filter) I still.connevted and use my factory ACTS and it actually ran 2° cooler than stock. Switching to electric fans dropped it even more.
Bruh made an "install" video for changing his air filter. 🤦♂️🤦♂️🤦♂️
Changing out a filter is regular maintenance, not an "install" or "upgrade". Even worse, he tried to pretend changing the filter boosted his performance.
You'd be surprised, by increasing airflow into the engine you're promoting a better burn of your fuel and actually increasing horsepower. The difference between the edelbrock and the stock filter setup is that the air doesn't have to travel as far to reach the engine. The stock one reduces airflow by forcing the air in from one location, instead using the air around it.
@@Respawntheskullpupper mathematically, that's bullshit and can be proven as false. The stock air cleaner on these cars is rated to be able to move over 2,200 CFM* of air at a sea level altitude. Now, obviously that's far more than the TBI or the engine can keep up with, but for fun, let's pretend you have a fuel system that can keep up and you have perfect volumetric efficiency (which is physically impossible, but let's pretend). Now, with those impossible attributes, you would have a miraculous 2,200 CFM sustained while the engine is running. Now, let's do some math and see how many RPM you would need to sustain in a 350 CI engine to produce 2,200 CFM.
First, basic multiplication tells us that 2,200 cubic feet is 3,801,600 cubic inches because 2,200 × 1,728 = 3,801,600
Next let's divide that by engine displacement. In this example, we'll say 350 cubic inches.
3,801,600 ÷ 350 = 10,861.7
So there you have it. Unless you're running more than 10,862 RPMs AND sustaining that for a measurable 60 seconds, the stock air cleaner on this car would keep up just fine, and that's at sea level. The higher your altitude, the more RPMs would be needed to move the same volume of air.
Math isn't that hard, you could have done this yourself. For future reference the calculation is:
CFM calculation × 1,728 = A
A ÷ Displacement = RPMs needed to exceed the CFM calculation.
Sources used:
• *1986-1990 GM test data, article AGG12
• Basic arithmetic
@@the-dullahan nerd
It’s tru, have you ever heard of an air intake ???
@@gstar5128 this isn't an intake installation. This is changing a filter.
You obviously don't the difference from a Vin (vehicle information number), to a parts number. 🙄
No need for the negativity my man! I’m ok with you not being ok with how I made my video..
A high school kid keeping his truck going on a budget. And that's really all that went through your mind
Not to mention it stands for Vehicle Identification Number