Best Sound from Mesh Drumheads | Season Two, Episode 30

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2019
  • Most of us have become conscious of this simple truth about drums at one point or another; they can get quite loud. Whether it was a friendly comment from a family member or a pounding on the wall from a neighbor, we can’t help for remember that not everyone enjoys the floor shaking, wall rattling thunder that is a drum set. Lately, mesh heads have become a common solution for those looking to practice on their drums but at a lower volume. Still, there are some major sacrifices associated with mesh heads vs. traditional drumheads so we set out to highlight the associated pros, cons, and some tips for getting the most (or the least sound) out of mesh drumheads.
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    Mics - Focusrite Clarett 8Pre USB & OctoPre - MacPro w/Pro Tools 12.8
    Recorded at 48kHz / 24bit
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    Bass drum demos done with AKG C414 (ear-distance) + AKG D112 (at mic port).
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    All Batters & Resos: Evans SoundOff tinyurl.com/EvansSoundOffMesh
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 175

  • @Damith140388
    @Damith140388 4 роки тому +65

    You're are probably the only one who has a deep dive into mesh-heads! This is valuable and interesting. 💪 Good work! 😎

    • @levig-man4103
      @levig-man4103 4 роки тому

      Jonas Damith I am also very thankful for that !

  • @carlosleon9580
    @carlosleon9580 4 роки тому +4

    Loved the “Sounds like a drum” PLUG/pun 🤣👍🏼👌🏽

  • @grayknight836
    @grayknight836 3 місяці тому +2

    Great idea 💡 to put the mesh drumheads on the bottom as well if you want it super quiet 🤫! Didn’t really think about that. 👍🏻

  • @cbeach2
    @cbeach2 3 роки тому +2

    This was such a great resource. Thank you for being so detail oriented, and friendly!

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 4 роки тому +9

    I love the sound you are getting using normal reso heads.

  • @GlitchComputer
    @GlitchComputer 4 роки тому +2

    Honestly your videos never fail me. SO SOLID!!!

  • @mikeevangelista1177
    @mikeevangelista1177 4 роки тому +16

    I’ve got 3 kids 2 and 11 month old twins so I turned my bop kit into a silent kit mesh heads on top and low volume ride n hats it’s a life saver I can play them whenever and it’s not a bother to anyone. It’s not my ideal choice I have some amazing gear that I look at and talk to now ha haaaaa and every now and then get to play but for the time being the low volume kit has saved the day. Great video I found everything you said to be true after messing with them

  • @secondsbeforelanding
    @secondsbeforelanding 4 роки тому +7

    I use both the Roland mesh drums as well as standard acoustic drums. I found this variation of using the heads very informative. Another great video.

  • @LordSnoodles
    @LordSnoodles 3 роки тому +1

    Excellent presentation, editing, and tone on this video. Cheers.

  • @a.j.wilkes6352
    @a.j.wilkes6352 4 роки тому +3

    Quiet practice tips for apartments living have benefitted me as "Father of sleeping babies" for evening practicing.

  • @shalaq
    @shalaq 4 роки тому +8

    Couple of things to add 1. Use them as resos to get a two head look with a single head sound. Works especially well for bass drums. 2. I used these heads with normal resos and used gaff tape or duckt tape or packing tape on the mesh heads. A strip of tape on the drum makes some air actually go and excite the reso head more and give the drum more projection. On the snare use a strip of tape on the mesh head right above the snares to excite them more. After some experimentation you can achieve a sound that is good for quiet rehearsal and singer songwriter gigs.

    • @Dusther210
      @Dusther210 4 роки тому +3

      Yea, what Shalaq said! I use mesh heads to practice at home and also I play once a week in a small room in NYC. I tried everything, brushes, hot rods and an electric kit. But the ticket was mesh batter heads with a square of duct tape in the center of the snare and a strip of tape on the other drums. Of the 4 kits I play on every week that is my favourite. It can really get the room moving without overwhelming the space and I can quickly turn it into a practice/lesson kit

  • @AtTheSourceStudios
    @AtTheSourceStudios 4 роки тому +13

    Hehe nice plug 6:30

  • @elijahfaith7480
    @elijahfaith7480 4 роки тому +2

    I've never tried or even seen them before so this is a new to me...very interesting..thank you for the lesson 😊👍🇨🇱🥁

  • @veganpunxforlife
    @veganpunxforlife 4 роки тому +14

    I use a mesh head as my kick reso. It gives the sound of no reso head, it's loud as shit but still keeps a little bit of air inside so it's not totally dead. I love it

    • @kushking420
      @kushking420 4 роки тому

      That's a very interesting idea, I've never seen a bass drum set up that way.

    • @veganpunxforlife
      @veganpunxforlife 3 роки тому +1

      @David Calderon I'm not sure it would reduce the volume. It greatly increases the volume of my kick drum with the mesh head on the reso side. That's one of the main reasons why i use it.

    • @ryanwilson5936
      @ryanwilson5936 2 роки тому

      @@veganpunxforlife
      This actually goes along with another SLAD video about getting a good metal kick tone and their conclusion was basically to not have a reso head at all. I imagine using a mesh head as a bass reso head would simulate the “no reso head” sound while retaining some air pressure inside the drum itself. Neat stuff!

  • @richardkeith2545
    @richardkeith2545 3 роки тому +2

    Excellent video. Very informative without a bunch of necessary BS.

  • @DadDoingStuff
    @DadDoingStuff 2 роки тому

    Who gives this a thumbs down? This is EXACTLY the info I was hoping to find. Thanks man! Great video! 🤘🏼🤘🏼

  • @vitogobbo9338
    @vitogobbo9338 2 місяці тому

    Thanks very helpful info for what im into at the moment!

  • @danox9043
    @danox9043 3 роки тому +1

    i would say.. this is one of the best Reviews EVER!!

  • @Medievalfan94
    @Medievalfan94 3 роки тому +3

    Oh yeah... I am playing on my meshhead set for a while now. A few days ago I just got my accoustic snare out of the shelf and hit it. Dang, accoustic drums are LOUD!!!

  • @mikeandningraines7027
    @mikeandningraines7027 4 роки тому +2

    I actually converted an acoustic Yamaha drum set into a hybrid electronic set using the Remo version of these mesh heads. I just had to buy 5 Roland triggers and it worked perfect with my TD-30 Roland brain. Thanks again for another awesome video and your totally correct, plastic beater is the only thing to use on the mesh bass drum head, I just use the plastic beater that came with my V-drums.

  • @jaredmcintosh4178
    @jaredmcintosh4178 4 роки тому +13

    Mesh heads are also great for drum triggering.

  • @pascalthielen8918
    @pascalthielen8918 4 роки тому +3

    I have a practice kit with mesh heads. I experimented with different towels and ended up using a towel underneath the bass drum head. This gives the kick drum a very pleasant and realistic sound and reduces bounce. On the snare, I also have one on top of the head. Feels good!

    • @Tom_TNP
      @Tom_TNP Рік тому

      How do you attach the towel underneath the head?

  • @mrski4945
    @mrski4945 2 роки тому

    I use pearl rhythm traveler mesh heads on my practice kit along with Zildjian LV80 cymbals. I LOVE it!! Sounds more quiet than my old Roland TD-7K electronic kit. Mesh heads and low volume cymbals have turned practice into something I look forward to everyday!

  • @georgejohnson2046
    @georgejohnson2046 4 роки тому

    I have my kit at church outfitted with three ply mesh heads. You can tune them hard or soft. I have internal triggers in the drums and I’m using a vst through the PA. It’s nice having a full size kit but have the perfect sounds from the vst. I use Roland and ATV ecymbals. Acoustically the three ply mesh heads will give you more tone out of the drum but I use them to convert an acoustic kit to full electronic. I use a vst instead of sounds from a drum module. I get tons of compliments from the looks and the superb sounds of the vst. Sound engineers love me too!!

  • @rodrigoaquinoofficial
    @rodrigoaquinoofficial Рік тому

    Great review.

  • @laurdessvalentino5849
    @laurdessvalentino5849 2 роки тому

    Wow thank you for posting this

  • @RaulGarcia-bq1og
    @RaulGarcia-bq1og 3 роки тому +1

    Cody, great video. I just bought a set of mesh head for my drums. I found that using a 4 inch Remo Falam Slam on the inner side of the mesh head can improve the feel. And for the bass drum, also put the Falam Slam on the outer side of the mesh head and use a Vic Firth Fleece Beater.
    Just an idea for a video on how to improve the feel on silent kits!

  • @RockerBug17
    @RockerBug17 Рік тому +2

    I put mesh heads on the reso side and just flip the drums when I want to practice.

  • @jamesfulmer7080
    @jamesfulmer7080 4 роки тому

    Great video! I've been drumming for little over a year now and have come to love mesh heads and Zildjian L80 cymbals. The L80 cymbals are fantastic because they feel like real cymbals (because they are) and they sound like real cymbals but 80% lower volume. I have two drum sets in my man cave. One loud kit and one practice kit with the mesh heads. My wife sleeps two doors down and usually doesn't hear them. I play till 2 or 3 in the morning. When she's gone during the day I play my loud kit. Definitely use an impact patch on the bass drum or the head will wear out fast. I actually use an Aquarian super pad on the bass.

    • @mrbtapir
      @mrbtapir 4 роки тому

      Have you played zildjian gen16 cymbals? I've got them and I'm just wondering how much quieter the l80s are. The gen16s can kick out some volume still.

    • @jamesfulmer7080
      @jamesfulmer7080 4 роки тому +1

      mrbtapir, I played on one at my local Guitar Center. It was louder and brighter.

  • @awfulbasscovers6895
    @awfulbasscovers6895 4 роки тому +2

    Personaly I combine mesh heads with cymbal dampers and anti vibration carpet. The kind you put below washing machines. Perfect for neighbors.

  • @rockdrummer80
    @rockdrummer80 4 роки тому

    I had mesh heads on my 13,16,18,24 and 14 snare. Worked great. In my opinion all your tone is coming from the reso heads. Drums sound the same but lower volume with mesh batter. To get rid of the bounce in the kick I filled the bd with a lot of pillows and used Evans bd patch. gives enough thump with attack and with pillows resting up against the mesh head eliminates the bounciness and gives the kick a more natural feel.

  • @rappidog
    @rappidog 4 роки тому +1

    I've used mesh heads with transducers mounted inside the shells.... linked up with a midi connection, to Addictive Drums from XLN Audio,, gives you great drum sounds that are controllable and are great thru headphones,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,

  • @johnburkhalter3880
    @johnburkhalter3880 4 роки тому +2

    You can get a little more tone from these by adding an adhesive such as tape or felt to the mesh batter. I found some adheaive felt circles on Amazon and attached to the underside. Only slightly increases the volume, but greatly enhances the tone.

    • @davegink9222
      @davegink9222 6 місяців тому

      I do the same thing. Put some tape on the outer edges. It adds extra tone. Also put center dots on mine. Feels much more like an acoustic head. It makes it just slightly louder, but sounds more like a drum.

  • @Soundgear4
    @Soundgear4 27 днів тому

    Great post, sound really good. Any suggestions on good sounding low volume cymbals?

  • @Fab_Rice
    @Fab_Rice 4 роки тому +1

    You can put rubber protection on the rim too, so rim shot are not extra loud. ;)
    Nylon stick help too for durability.

  • @BatManWayneCorp
    @BatManWayneCorp Рік тому

    Having played electric drums at church for years, it's really crucial to find a quiet Basedrum Pedal. Generally I've found that a double chain helps a ton, as does having a baseboard instead of this V-rod that makes the pedal collapsible

  • @marvinpues
    @marvinpues 4 роки тому +2

    I think the mesh heads are great, but requires changing heads. I use my kit to gig and practice. I went with the RTOM black hole mesh pads that sit on my toms and snare combined with Zildjian low volume cymbals for practice.
    The Black Hole pads do allow for your tuned drum to resonate at a very low volume. Sounds and feels good enough, and I can easily play full volume by a quick cymbal swap and removing RTOMs. My family barely knows I'm playing, and I can hear everything to my satisfaction.
    Main down side was cost ($600 for cymbals and pads) so the cymbal mutes and mesh heads are a much more economical route.
    Good video.

  • @garyh4458
    @garyh4458 4 роки тому +1

    I used spray adhesive to glue some mylar patches from an old drumhead on to the bottom of my mesh heads so that they are louded. It worked but my sticks and my sticks aren't so boucy.

  • @ned_potter
    @ned_potter 3 роки тому +2

    You mention going higher side of medium - I'd recommend going higher side of high! For my low volume kit I've found the higher the reso the more tone from the mesh batter...

  • @danalnajes
    @danalnajes 3 роки тому

    I used the Remo Silent stroke Version and I love it I have the same Set up with wires on the Bottom I tune the Bottom heads a Lil tight but I keep the Top Medium and wires are semi loose to keep The head happy :)
    Remo's Version is from there Ambassador Series witch made my Buy them in the First place...

  • @CPMForceobsessor
    @CPMForceobsessor 4 роки тому +1

    Got my first acoustic set earlier this year after about two years of having an e-kit. Wish I had even considered mesh heads for it before buying all the normal heads. :P I still find myself practicing on the e-kit instead of the acoustic one because I'm not that confident, and this would have been a much better alternative. Guess I know what I'm doing next time I replace the heads.

  • @WhippperSnaperater
    @WhippperSnaperater 4 роки тому +1

    I have mesh heads and regular resos on my kit. I find that I have touble getting a nice snare response, granted my drum is cheap and my wires are original, and that the bass doesn't put out much sound without a patch. If you buy Remo though, the bass heads come with one. Overall though, they're a solid would recommend.

  • @pedroparkeprod
    @pedroparkeprod 19 днів тому

    Putting a strip of painters or gaffer tape gives the mesh heads more tone. Play around with the length of tape since it does increase volume a bit but makes playing more enjoyable. I noticed the mic picked up the drum stick scratching the mesh head so I put a patch of tape in the middle to prevent it and made it feel more realistic. You could actually make pretty good recordings paired with low volume cymbals.

  • @lutzmackenstedt249
    @lutzmackenstedt249 2 роки тому

    There are meshheads with different „densitys“, denser > louder. You also can adjust the volume by using patches on the backside.

  • @bogartsandoval
    @bogartsandoval 4 роки тому +2

    I think the word “Best” is subjective.

  • @colaiuka
    @colaiuka 4 роки тому +1

    Hi Cody! Awesome videos always. Do you think it is quieter than a regular practice pad kit such as DW...? Thanks!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      In my experience it is, the sound is completely different but the fact that you're not striking a hard rubber surface really keeps things quiet. - Cody

  • @dmguk9931
    @dmguk9931 4 роки тому

    i found if you add mayb a impact patch on to the head in the centre...like a dot....gives a little more impact sound and feel

  • @matthewsherman9765
    @matthewsherman9765 4 роки тому +3

    I’m thinking these could make a great concert Tom out of any kit.

  • @inkeye1
    @inkeye1 4 роки тому +1

    Always timely. I'd say if you only have one kit then use mutes of some sort (I don't like the feel or sound but it is quiet). Mesh heads are really quiet, even with resos and you can coax a little more volume out of them by putting a strip of painters tape on them. I only have one kit so I am using a mesh head on my snare but not on my toms or kick. I'm using a Tama Soft Sound beater on my kick instead of a mute or mesh head. My toms have Evans Sound Off mutes on them. This isn't ideal but it works as it is better than not practicing at all. Low volume cymbals work well with this setup. I can practice at night while my son is asleep upstairs.

    • @marvinpues
      @marvinpues 4 роки тому +1

      I’m in the same boat as you (single kit, and wife and kids) so I went with the RTOM Black Hole mesh pads that sit on top of drums. Better feel than Sound Off, can keep heads on, and drums are similar volume to mesh heads.

  • @bobisadrummer
    @bobisadrummer 4 роки тому +3

    I've read that putting some tape on the mesh heads (when using normal reso heads) allows for even more tone without increasing the volume very much.

    • @barb0087
      @barb0087 4 роки тому

      It does. I put tape on all of my mesh heads on my acoustic. I mic it through my mixer and use headphones. It almost sounds like the real deal! Gorilla tape seems to work the best. For my kick, I put a couple of strips with a flam pad over the tape. This makes the kick sound and feel more realistic.

    • @tueblom8181
      @tueblom8181 4 роки тому +1

      I've been doing this for years, it works wonders! I use one long piece of duct tape across the head right where the logo is (so i dont hit the tape). I put it on before the head is applied, so the tape stretches when i tune.

  • @robertpetty7753
    @robertpetty7753 Рік тому

    Thanks for the advice. I just bought some mylar mesh heads, and the toms sound great, but my snare sounds trashy. I put a cloth on top of my batter head, and It's sounds much better, but I think I'm not tuning them with proper tension compared to the bottom reso side. Any advice? Thanks!

  • @-ellow
    @-ellow 2 роки тому

    Hi Cody, a few weeks back at the Chicago Drum Show there was some guy with his kid that ripped your idea from THIS video and presented it at the drum show as their own original idea. I got to play on there setup that they where showcasing and I was rather shocked at how good the setup sounded. When I was seated at the set it seemed like the drums where louder and had nice tone, about 12 feet away from the set the sound of the high-hat foot pedal action was drowning out the sound level of the drums. I kept going back over to the set throughout the day playing on it in total disbelief. Now I am considering picking up a cheap set with shallow drums and adding the mesh heads to them myself. The setup they used at the drum show looked to be converted from electronic drums.

  • @sustan4532
    @sustan4532 3 роки тому

    Hi, do you think its OK to practice rudiments on a mesh head ? or is it better to practice on a rubber pad ? Ir is it better for your wrists on a rubber pad ?
    Thx

  • @juanjavierm
    @juanjavierm 3 роки тому

    5:44 Are there mesh heads also in the bottom of the heads or only on top? Sounds fine!!!

  • @RogerGlenn
    @RogerGlenn 4 роки тому

    Dude! I’ve had this idea in mind for a while actually... doing a hybrid kind of thing with the mesh heads + triggers and a sound module. Not sure it’d be on topic for this channel but I’d be curious to see how one would go about setting that up, and what gear would be required. I’m a working dad with wife and kids, and my goal is to be able to practice on real drums at home without bothering anyone (since one of my kits is never being used anyway) thanks for the great content guys! 👌🏻

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      You can use most trigger systems with these heads. You’ll need a module to convert the trigger signal into sound though.

    • @SylarTheBest
      @SylarTheBest 4 роки тому

      Search for Sunhouse , it's an awesome system for that, allows you to get 10 different sounds off of just 1 drum

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      @@SylarTheBest We've actually used Sensory Percussion with these heads (I was present during the filming of the promo video Evans did with the SoundOff heads + Sensory Percussion for the product release). While each drum is capable of up to 10 zones, you can get SO many more sounds per zone when you factor in all of the other elements of the software (velocity, note rate, effects, etc). It's a pretty incredible system. -Ben

  • @Gibbyrodriguez75
    @Gibbyrodriguez75 4 роки тому

    Any tips for rim shots/cross stick? I have a practice pad to help with that vs a snare, but it’s challenging with the arms of the snare stand.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      Adding rubber gaskets to the hoops can definitely help. There are some companies that make products like this specifically for electronic triggering.

  • @flanagansrage7885
    @flanagansrage7885 4 роки тому +1

    As someone who uses low volume heads and cymbals id highly recommend adding a shit load of tape or better yet paper then tape on the centre of the snare drum makes it's sound alot more snarey without adding too much volume

  • @spencerj
    @spencerj 4 роки тому +4

    I’d love to hear your thoughts on electronic drums. Do you think they get close enough to the natural feel of acoustic drums

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      That’s incredibly subjective and is really something best decided by the user. I don’t see electronic drums and trying to be acoustic drums any more than an electric guitar trying to be an acoustic guitar (despite the fact that e-drums are often used as a low volume alternative). It’s a different instrument just like a keyboard vs. a piano. -Ben

    • @maeu59
      @maeu59 3 роки тому

      @@ivoncraig I have a Roland kit ands it’s ok, I’m thinking of selling to convert my acoustics using Triggers, how do triggers compare to an actual Roland kit.

  • @nate6692
    @nate6692 3 роки тому +1

    Wish you'd done a set with L80's - I'd love to hear how L80's balance with the diploweight heads.

    • @alfredmorrone7029
      @alfredmorrone7029 2 роки тому

      I have lv80s and discovered by accident these so called glow in the dark sticks, made of soft plastic/rubber, not 100% certain, bring out much sounds than wood or nylon tip sticks.

  • @BryceChristopherHodge
    @BryceChristopherHodge 4 роки тому +3

    I have an old Roland TD-20 with the mesh head kick pad and it ate through my felt beater pretty quickly. I would more-strongly-than-Cody-did recommend investing in a wood or plastic beater for use with mesh heads on a kick drum. Thanks for another fun video, guys!

    • @C0zyDunt
      @C0zyDunt 4 роки тому

      I us an Evans EQ pad on my TD20. That can save your felt beaters.

  • @anthonygrilli4919
    @anthonygrilli4919 Рік тому

    What if you nodded these by applying some kind of membrane in some parts of the head so it pushes air in just certain places?
    Every video is great, keep ‘em comin!

  • @dissaorlavey6943
    @dissaorlavey6943 4 роки тому +8

    morse code = WHAT'S WITHIN MATTERS :V

  • @bigdaddyjoblivion
    @bigdaddyjoblivion Рік тому

    Did you also put mesh on the snare side as well for that first example???

  • @queenpurple8433
    @queenpurple8433 2 роки тому

    I use mesh reso heads on my vistalite kit since I play metal and need a very short sustain for such an unruly kit

  • @pyroeuropa
    @pyroeuropa 4 роки тому +1

    My meshheads are only tuned to the point where the tension rods meet the hoop
    With regular resos it still sounds lively and the snare has less rebound than a practice pad.
    Was that beer that Cody drank in the last livestream? :D

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Haha, we were hydrating with some seltzer after quite a bit of coffee. Been a very busy long weekend of work but we’ve got something big coming together.

  • @cornerliston
    @cornerliston 4 роки тому

    Are there any conventional drumheads being slightly less loud? Semi loud skins?

  • @julesdrummer1205
    @julesdrummer1205 Рік тому

    Which tension do you have on the batter side of the bassdrum?

  • @ibleasse
    @ibleasse 4 роки тому

    What about RTOM Black hole drumhead System? I recently got them but I didn’t tune them. Just slapped them on and started practicing. The center patch, though, a bit loud compared to the edge. Also, not getting the response from the snare as without the black hole on top.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      Hmm, I don't have any experience with those at all but i'll have a look :) - Cody

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      Those are certainly a possibility but pricing out mesh batter heads for this setup vs. a set of the Black Holes came to roughly $75 vs $245 so it’s significantly more expensive for the convenience and different sound. With the Reso 7 heads on these drums with the mesh batters, I can’t imagine wanting more volume from a low volume setup. -Ben

    • @ibleasse
      @ibleasse 4 роки тому

      I have them because I practice at home, taking them to class and teach, take them to small venue performances and large to medium gigs. So changing heads constantly and several times a day is not convenient. So for the price they are good. For lowering the volume too. For the quick change and setup. Perfect. The only thing is the clicky patch in the center, and the reduced responsiveness on the Snare. I have to loosen the wires up for better response then tighten when removing the black holes. I was wondering if you’ve experimented or have advice

  • @ttolle8
    @ttolle8 4 роки тому +1

    I would like to know about using mesh heads for reso's on a normal kit!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      It's basically the same as using concert toms - and a great solution too if you want to keep your reso hoops on and protect the bottom bearing edge. The sound difference between mesh reso and no reso at all is virtually zero. - Cody

    • @ttolle8
      @ttolle8 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Cool thanks for the answer!

  • @Emma-sf2yu
    @Emma-sf2yu 2 роки тому

    Do you need anything other than the mesh heads or do they sound normal by themselves when on shells

  • @BatManWayneCorp
    @BatManWayneCorp Рік тому

    Is there such a thing as a hybrid head which has just a circle of mesh on the outer perimeter?

  • @jna3341
    @jna3341 4 роки тому +1

    What about using mesh heads as resos? would it be like concert toms?

  • @Eurodrummer666
    @Eurodrummer666 4 роки тому +1

    I´m first to comment this time! I have been considering buying those heads but I didn´t want to bother swapping heads before recording or gigging.

  • @StrappingYoungLadam
    @StrappingYoungLadam 2 роки тому

    Now is there anything significantly different about these Evans heads vs the Remo Silent Strokes? Or are the remos just more talked about?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  2 роки тому

      Different material so a slightly different feel but fundamentally the same.

    • @StrappingYoungLadam
      @StrappingYoungLadam 2 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Thank you very much! I believe the Evans sound off mesh heads are a little cheaper so I'll probably go that route.

  • @Aleph_Null_Audio
    @Aleph_Null_Audio 4 роки тому

    Could you compare mesh heads a s resos to concert toms? I'd be interested to hear what difference there is, if any.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      They're almost identical honestly. A great solution too if you want to keep your reso hoops on and protect the bearing edges. Danny Carey has done this on his kicks with Tool for years. -Cody

  • @sweetthaiwilly147
    @sweetthaiwilly147 2 роки тому

    Do you have any videos on using triggers with these mesh heads?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  2 роки тому

      Unfortunately, no. We haven't covered anything in the world of electronic percussion as that's not really our expertise.

  • @NoslenLRac
    @NoslenLRac 4 роки тому

    Great info again!
    What does your shirt say? I assume it’s Morse code...

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Was a gift, website says it translates to 'What's on the inside that counts" I guess? hahaha :) - Cody

  • @demonocusmetalocus3558
    @demonocusmetalocus3558 2 роки тому

    The great thing about mesh heads is they trigger great

  • @flanagansrage7885
    @flanagansrage7885 4 роки тому

    Please do low volume cymbal shoot out the agean rs sound the best because they are b20 i think but ive heard theyre not all that quiet

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      That may be a possibility down the link within either our forthcoming comparison series and/or our cymbal series.

  • @ricosalomar
    @ricosalomar 4 роки тому +14

    A felt beater will chew right through those things, in my experience.

    • @EverythingisFire
      @EverythingisFire 4 роки тому +2

      Have to use those bass drum patches.

    • @DrumScummy
      @DrumScummy 4 роки тому +1

      It actually does damage to both the beater and the head. Best to use a plastic beater. Maybe wood works too, but I have never tried that.

    • @Medievalfan94
      @Medievalfan94 4 роки тому

      I had some cheap housebran QiHead for my BD from Thomann. First I played felt beater on it, then I heard about felts damaging the head, so I afixed Falampads. They fell off after a few days... Then I switched to the plastic side of my beater and yesterday I chewed right through the head... All this in a matter of around 4 month, in which I played maybe once a week for an hour. Next time, I go Remo Silentstroke or Evans Soundoffs for sure, and I will try again a Falam pad...

    • @LetTheWritersWrite
      @LetTheWritersWrite 3 роки тому

      Really? Wow I would have thought the soft felt would keep from wearing it.

  • @EWDrums
    @EWDrums 2 роки тому

    How can you make them just a little louder? With a band you need 50% more volume. Any ideas? I'm trying to find Ludwig silver dot stickers...!

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  2 роки тому

      These definitely aren't heads for use in performance with a band. Standard plastic heads and a lighter touch is the way to go. Consider a bit of muffling and smaller sticks to assist if you're having trouble keeping the volume down.

  • @wallyallyn5473
    @wallyallyn5473 4 роки тому

    Can you use the heads for small gigs the mesh hats I'm talking about ???

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      I probably wouldn't because they're VERY quiet in the room but you can always try and see how they work for you! -Cody

    • @a.j.wilkes6352
      @a.j.wilkes6352 4 роки тому

      I wonder what sort of volume you could get by putting some mylar patches in the center. That might split the difference in regards to volume.

  • @cookiecache3910
    @cookiecache3910 3 роки тому

    Cool tip: Flip your toms over, and rather than replacing the batter heads, replace the reso heads. This way, should you need full volume, the toms can simply be flipped over. And, the tone when playing on the mesh will be more similar to your full volume heads.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  3 роки тому

      Have you done this before?

    • @cookiecache3910
      @cookiecache3910 3 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum Yes I have my practice kit rigged this way. The kick and snare have to be rigged with the mesh on the batter side. I should have a video out on this in a couple of weeks.

    • @timthaler8805
      @timthaler8805 2 роки тому

      Cookie Cache where is the video????

  • @BCSchmerker
    @BCSchmerker 4 роки тому

    +soundslikeadrum *Thanks for a discussion of quieting full-size kits for intimate spaces.* Should I equip the Christian-Education Wing center hall at OMS Japanese Christian with a full-sized Pearl® Crystal Beat® eight-piece, EVANS®/D'Addario® SoundOff batters (across the kit), EQ3-NP kick resonants, Glass 650 tom resonants, and Hazy 200 snare-sides with PureSound™ Twisted 20 snappies will give space for acoustic lutes. Avedis Zildjian Co. apparently has a complete enough range of complementary cymbals in the L80 Series: 10"/25cm splash, 13"/33cm hats pair, 16"/41cm crash, 18"/46cm crash ride and China, and 20"/51cm ride.

  • @aydencloyd
    @aydencloyd 4 роки тому +6

    Whats Within Matters

    • @primozsirca
      @primozsirca 4 роки тому +1

      I was thinking the same thing...

  • @DynoPoV
    @DynoPoV 4 роки тому

    What if you have normal batter heads and silent resonant heads?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Then you basically have concert toms - Danny Carey of Tool has done this on his bass drums a lot live, works great and looks good too! - Cody

  • @saltysaltine
    @saltysaltine 4 роки тому

    Can one put triggers on a mesh head setup?

  • @marcusbrown87
    @marcusbrown87 10 місяців тому

    One problem I have with mesh heads is they are slippery, so when playing fast rolls around your drums, my sticks slip and slide all over the place. Does anyone have experience with any mesh heads that are less slippery than others?

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  10 місяців тому

      This is something that you may have to address with technique and setup.

  • @djentlover
    @djentlover 4 роки тому

    If these work with trigger mics or piezos, the problem of sloppy pattern drummers in my studio sessions is gone!

  • @GlennBoB1969
    @GlennBoB1969 7 місяців тому

    can you trigger these?

  • @toddmcneair4043
    @toddmcneair4043 5 місяців тому

    can you use brushes on these heads?

  • @mousev1093
    @mousev1093 4 роки тому

    Felt beaters on mesh heads is a super no-go. There's pics all over the internet from edrum communities about ruined heads. The kick will literally get torn and chewed apart from standard playing. Plastic and wood beaters only

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      And yet we haven’t encountered issues with this one over the course of a 9 month period 🤷🏼‍♂️

    • @mousev1093
      @mousev1093 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum just reporting what I've heard from the communities I'm in. Even my alesis strike pro manual mentions this specifically. I'd venture a guess that it may just take more time but it also just may be certain felts being more abrasive than others.
      Dunno if anyone has looked into particular brand biases for these issues.

  • @TommyD1021
    @TommyD1021 4 роки тому +5

    Never use felt beaters with mesh heads. It destroys the mesh heads.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Been using one for quite some time without issues...

    • @TheCodegram
      @TheCodegram 4 роки тому +4

      Sounds Like A Drum it definitely does over time. I’ve learned my lesson. Flipping to a plastic beater will save headache in the long run

  • @kol0ss384
    @kol0ss384 4 роки тому

    What does the shirt say in Morse code

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому

      Was a gift, website says it translates to 'What's on the inside that counts" I guess? hahaha :) - Cody

  • @jgreen2015
    @jgreen2015 3 роки тому

    A strip of duct tape can really bring out some tone and snare response. Its v unsatisfying to hear nothing!
    Paired with some low volume cymbals and i can record myself relatively decently with just my smart-phone, and even better with a £15 amazing lapel mic. No clipping. Pretty good drum/ cymbal balance. Even gets the deep end of the kick!
    Edit: i TRIED cutting the centre of my old heads and haedcore gluing them to the centre of the mesh heads. Sounds..kinda bad. Traps SOME air. Adds too much attack and the real head never stretches enough so sounds floppy. But most importantly begin to peel off on the first song!

  • @AtTheSourceStudios
    @AtTheSourceStudios 4 роки тому +5

    The felt beater eats the mesh through so definitely do not use felt on mesh.

    • @65Drums
      @65Drums 4 роки тому +1

      Yup

    • @pastorkev777
      @pastorkev777 4 роки тому

      Have you tried a aquarian thin pad or remo kevlar slam pad?

    • @AtTheSourceStudios
      @AtTheSourceStudios 4 роки тому

      @@pastorkev777 of course if you use a patch, felt beater or whatever is fine. Only talking about about direct contact.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +2

      Interesting to see so many people commenting this as I’ve been using one for quite sometime without issues. -Ben

    • @AtTheSourceStudios
      @AtTheSourceStudios 4 роки тому

      @@SoundsLikeADrum it might take a while but it is a fact that it wears the mesh away quicker. You might not be as hard a player on the kick as some though. I personally have never even tried it because I just knew from the get go and I like felt beater but yeah I'd rather not ruin my head quicker so I got a patch

  • @enderbalck
    @enderbalck 3 роки тому

    cymbals?

  • @TonyDiaz.
    @TonyDiaz. Рік тому

    Felt beaters kill mesh heads; use either a patch or a platic/ wooden beater.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  Рік тому +1

      To the contrary, we've found that wooden beaters (and some plastic) will wear down mesh heads far faster than felt beaters. The issue with felt beaters is that, if they're too soft, the mesh will actually wear the head of the beater down rather than vice versa.

  • @bionicles
    @bionicles 4 роки тому

    6:30

  • @austinchoatedrums
    @austinchoatedrums 4 роки тому

    The one thing I’ve always wanted to hear is how the mesh heads work as resos compared to single head drums. That way, I can save the bottom bearing edge.

    • @SoundsLikeADrum
      @SoundsLikeADrum  4 роки тому +1

      We’re planning on that as a bonus video on Patreon.