Gran Turismo 7 on PlayStation 5: The Digital Foundry Tech Review

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  • @Blindsyde5762
    @Blindsyde5762 Рік тому +123

    As a Forza guy, coming back after the new Digital Foundry's video of Forza Motorsport , this GT7 is a marvel.

    • @teviblekhman1628
      @teviblekhman1628 Рік тому +4

      I like forza and gt 7 both

    • @EAprima
      @EAprima Рік тому +10

      @@teviblekhman1628 Got both. GT7 trounce over Forza 8 and that really disappoints me as I got a powerful PC rig.

    • @DJordydj
      @DJordydj 6 місяців тому +3

      I don't dislike GT but I hate the fact that the outside cameras are attached to the car and not to the inertia of the moment, like Forza.

    • @Serandi1987
      @Serandi1987 6 місяців тому

      GT7 needs the power of the PS5 Pro! I had this game in 2022 but bought a PS5 at the end of 2023 and played this game only for some days and then sold the PS5 again only to wait for the PS5 Pro and FINALLY enjoy the game to the fullest like it should be!✅

    • @nickstarlingch
      @nickstarlingch 3 місяці тому +1

      ​@DJordydj Pretty sure that's a camera setting in GT7. I prefer the first-person and bonnet views, but I also prefer GT's third-person camera being more rigid, personally. You should try these simcade racers in first-person, it's an amazing game-changer! Sooo immersive and thrilling.

  • @ChroniclesofKToyoda
    @ChroniclesofKToyoda 2 роки тому +901

    Want to make a Correction, all PS5 GT7 car models are actually higher quality than what is showcased in GT-Sport, the caveat being that these higher polygon assets were actually authored during development of GT-Sport but were much too detailed to be used in PS4/Pro generation, according to the creator himself, the choice was made so that they would be better prepared for transitioning to more powerful next generation hardware in a more timely manner
    They chose to go this route, which is heavily bolstered by manufacturer provided high fidelity CAD data, from the prior learnings of trying to transition into the HD era from the PS2 assets and avoid how excruciatingly long that endeavour took to go from 4 to 5, even though technically GT4 did support 1080i with the right cables.
    Point being these aren't dressed up GT-Sport cars, these cars were authored and stored for use for future hardware that is capable of it from inception, & GT7 is starting to showcase that forward thinking planning, again this is according to Kaz's interviews himself

    • @MegaRayland
      @MegaRayland 2 роки тому +88

      Good point. It is important to remember that by the time the PS4 generation rolled out a common practice in game development was to model a higher detail/resolution model for character, vehicles, and assets that would then get reduced to the required levels to run in the engine at the desired targets. This means that there were higher quality assets available.
      This is a practice common to this day.

    • @SergeantMoetz
      @SergeantMoetz 2 роки тому +43

      Thanks for the great background information!

    • @ionlywatch
      @ionlywatch 2 роки тому +6

      models are everything for heavily asset-based games

    • @arthurb5194
      @arthurb5194 2 роки тому +17

      Some cars new to GT6 were used (touched up a bit) in GT Sport as well, off the top of my head the ones that featured tessellation like the ferrari F40 and KTM Xbow. In any regular gameplay scenario the high poly model wouldn't be loaded, but in replays and photomode they would.
      There's a big thread on GT Planet from years back where some guy named Emula compares GT6 models to GT Sport, pretty interesting to see. I think it's great that polyphony is at the point where the models themselves will look good for years to come, and they can work on how materials are handled. I admire how they go for a natural aesthetic, even if some say it's boring compared to the more colorful Forza

    • @nalong55
      @nalong55 2 роки тому +12

      Proof rather than hearsay?

  • @Sewer_Ghost
    @Sewer_Ghost 2 роки тому +416

    I appreciate the online-only call out. I have a PS5 but I live in a rural area with crappy internet which really hinders my ability to reliably play anything online, and I feel seen. Thanks, John!

    • @StanceSantos
      @StanceSantos 2 роки тому +36

      @Esuard Leder especially with a £60 price tag

    • @nicklach1071
      @nicklach1071 2 роки тому +15

      @@StanceSantos back in the 90s games cost 25% of what they do to make and costed 60-80 bucks lol

    • @KirbyWithHair
      @KirbyWithHair 2 роки тому +3

      I heard they make it so because of potential hacking

    • @StanceSantos
      @StanceSantos 2 роки тому +16

      @@nicklach1071 is that adjusted for inflation? Because I can guarantee games did not cost that much in the 90s in the uk it was around £45 - £50

    • @nicklach1071
      @nicklach1071 2 роки тому +11

      @@StanceSantos using the base pound inflation rate of 2.8%. 50 pounds in 1995 after inflation is 102 pounds. Meanwhile take final fantasy 7 remake for instance. They made the original game for 30 million and people spend hundreds of hours on it. The new one takes about 30-40 hours and cost them 200 million to make. Game prices are honestly lower than they should be, people just account for changing economies.

  • @aaronh248
    @aaronh248 2 роки тому +560

    Yep the load times are a game changer. We haven't had fast loading into races since GT4 really.
    Being able to pop back into a license test within 3 seconds, or go customize a car real quick and then jump back into a race within seconds.
    Such a massive change

    • @apictureoffunction
      @apictureoffunction 2 роки тому +29

      That's been ny favorite improvement of this generation of consoles. I still can barely wrap my head around the fact that PS5 native titles load in anywhere from 2-10 seconds tops.

    • @Yeedman
      @Yeedman 2 роки тому +3

      im just thinking, couldn't you just toss a ssd in a ps3 or ps4 to improve loading times of ps3 gran turismos or gran turismo sport?

    • @danifit24
      @danifit24 2 роки тому +4

      @@Yeedman not exactly, processor still needs his own power to analyse data

    • @bladeofmird
      @bladeofmird 2 роки тому +1

      @Aaron H Umm..actually from the PS2 generation GT4 really had the worst loading times. GT3 had much faster loadings.

    • @MisterReen
      @MisterReen 2 роки тому +14

      @@Yeedman it will improve the loading times of the PS4 a little bit you won’t nearly reach the quick loading times of the ps5. That’s because the whole architecture of the PS4 is not optimised for such a fast ssd. When you equip your PS4 with an ssd, only a small part of the performance of the ssd will be utilised.

  • @fahada1921
    @fahada1921 2 роки тому +139

    I’ve been playing GT7 for around 6 hours now. I’m telling you this is a therapeutic experience I’m not even joking.
    It’s amazing the amount of hard work and attention to detail and love put into this.
    Thank you Yamauchi and all people that delivered this unbelievable game.

    • @ddha0000
      @ddha0000 2 роки тому +2

      its not as detailed as PC sims dude. its rubbish.

    • @cookedit
      @cookedit 2 роки тому +12

      @@ddha0000 You played the game? Because the game isn't a full on Sim like a PC game doesn't mean it isn't more detailed. Tell me of a PC game that has more cars, tracks, play modes, livery editor and camera options than GT7?

    • @elazotacunaos4752
      @elazotacunaos4752 2 роки тому +3

      @Esuard Leder, all the games you have aren't from digital stores, right?

    • @wah666
      @wah666 2 роки тому

      @Esuard Leder no shit! not like every other comment on this video is talking about the dumb online-only aspect of the game. but one guy has a positive thing to say about the game, that he’s making the best of it and having fun, and you have to chime in with negativity acting like a smug asshole. touch grass.

    • @ShipyardWelder
      @ShipyardWelder Рік тому

      @@ddha0000 You never even played the series I bet.... Just a dumb hater finding reason to hate something.

  • @ActionButton
    @ActionButton 2 роки тому +98

    i preordered the Digital Deluxe. now i'm prewatching the Digital Foundry.
    let me know if you need help on a third video breaking down the the cornucopious sweet jazz fusion pieces in the soundtrack

    • @alyx4436
      @alyx4436 2 роки тому +1

      Hi Tim!

    • @BoshBargnani
      @BoshBargnani 2 роки тому +2

      the legend himself

    • @bigb0ss282
      @bigb0ss282 2 роки тому +1

      preorder = only idiots.

    • @johnnytopgun6414
      @johnnytopgun6414 2 роки тому

      @Esuard Leder what do you mean you can't own? will it not come in a disc format?

    • @baste9588
      @baste9588 2 роки тому

      @Esuard Leder Jesus Christ, even racing games are getting the online only treatment? Of all the genres that's literally the last one I would expect to be online only.

  • @dotty1774
    @dotty1774 2 роки тому +474

    I remember having the original GT with my dad and uncles taking turns on the wheel. At the time it was so realistic haha

    • @JenovaDoll
      @JenovaDoll 2 роки тому +31

      I remember how good the graphics were back then.

    • @kyles8524
      @kyles8524 2 роки тому +7

      i actually played that recently lol, at least there isnt damage in the game.I passed a lot of those races smashing into cars when they slowed down for a turn and either pushing them into a grass field on the track or pushing them out of position against a wall that let me get by

    • @SiStockbridge
      @SiStockbridge 2 роки тому +5

      Snap! Taking turns in the endurance races with my brother was a highlight aswell

    • @adriantrusca1245
      @adriantrusca1245 2 роки тому +3

      Nobody cares about your memories.

    • @merijnfluitman5761
      @merijnfluitman5761 2 роки тому

      I used to use the joystick to look at my cars from all angles during the countdown at the start of a race

  • @soplokill
    @soplokill 2 роки тому +436

    Gran Turismo literally inspired me into a petrolhead, it was always eye popping since PS2, and I mean beyond the visual aspect, I loved as a child, and I was owner to the biggest community of Gran Turismo on Orkut, and everyday people saying how much they loved spending time with the games, I hope that this game make new car lovers and allow we who grew with it to make new pure fun memories.. Nowdays is hard to really get hyped to something without a foot back, but my inner child is screaming its lungs out to this game simply not suck

    • @shashankars3632
      @shashankars3632 2 роки тому +3

      Same story here🤩

    • @Blamant
      @Blamant 2 роки тому +4

      It really is a fresh breath of air that it isn't a rushed release, unlike every other modern game ever

    • @paulklp8262
      @paulklp8262 2 роки тому +10

      The MX-5 NA from GT3 is why I ended up buying a real MX-5 21 years later.

    • @Blamant
      @Blamant 2 роки тому +1

      @@paulklp8262 I have an MX5 as well, it's an NB tho

    • @Tool0GT92
      @Tool0GT92 2 роки тому +4

      @@paulklp8262
      Miata
      Is
      Always
      The
      Answer

  • @morph-x7153
    @morph-x7153 2 роки тому +41

    I never was too demanding when it comes to graphics and fidelity, so for me by far the load times have the most impact. It feels so natural but also strange at the same time to just go from on thing to the next so effortlessly. I’m enjoying GT7 so much more than I initially thought I would.

    • @Masckerdoom
      @Masckerdoom 2 роки тому +1

      Lying about the game's features and releasing a game that looks like this on the PS5 is unacceptable, Forza is open world and it looks better than this. I was about to buy this too.

    • @BlackParade01
      @BlackParade01 2 роки тому +7

      @@Masckerdoom GT7 looks great wdym

    • @Masckerdoom
      @Masckerdoom 2 роки тому

      @@BlackParade01 it looks alright tbh. I have been playing it.

    • @MadX8
      @MadX8 Рік тому

      @@BlackParade01 It looks good, sometimes incredibly good. But still, FH5 looks better while having the Open world constraint. It's hard to excuse this level of detail honestly, the PS5 can do MUCH better.
      Still, I have to say that if you're using the cockpit view in GT7, it looks phenomenal at times

    • @solid_justice5855
      @solid_justice5855 Рік тому

      ​@@MadX8GT7 cars are far more detailed then FH5 cars. Also the new Forza even looks worse then GT7, what is its excuse?

  • @Prodzick
    @Prodzick 2 роки тому +1215

    So early that the comments are so peacefull.

    • @eljusticiero322
      @eljusticiero322 2 роки тому +97

      Forza Horizon better

    • @henrik5299
      @henrik5299 2 роки тому +145

      @@eljusticiero322 bruh 🤣

    • @jeremiahola7304
      @jeremiahola7304 2 роки тому +20

      @@eljusticiero322 mid

    • @TheVoxmouth
      @TheVoxmouth 2 роки тому +10

      @@eljusticiero322 savage

    • @urbanshadow777
      @urbanshadow777 2 роки тому +96

      @@eljusticiero322 I like horizon 5, I probably put 150hrs into it but gt7 is a completely different game and appeals more to the sime crowd. Saying horizon is better than gt is like saying halo is better than call of duty. Yeah they are both first person shooters but they are completely different game appealing to different parts of the gaming community. To say one is better than the other is just dumb ass console war fan boy bs.
      Edit: Did I just get woodshed? Fk, ah well might as well own it

  • @alasdaresineaeris2772
    @alasdaresineaeris2772 2 роки тому +461

    I can see the soul in the game. Not a car guy but I'll definitely be getting it

    • @javierb.4447
      @javierb.4447 2 роки тому +19

      Can we really say it haves a soul if it doesn't even have something so basic as car damage? Hard to believe, man

    • @sleepy_killer
      @sleepy_killer 2 роки тому +18

      @@javierb.4447 It doesn't have car damage in 2022 for real dude?

    • @LogicInWords
      @LogicInWords 2 роки тому +126

      @@javierb.4447 when you license these cars to use in your game. You do know some of them don’t want their cars shown in that light right. This is why car damage isn’t implemented

    • @METALMATCHA
      @METALMATCHA 2 роки тому +98

      @@LogicInWords It’s funny how the devs implement so much care and detail and someone thinks they just forgot about car damage lol

    • @ThankYouScienc3
      @ThankYouScienc3 2 роки тому +68

      @@METALMATCHA fr, and it's been lacking in all licensed car games for the same reason for what 25 years? Car manufacturers dont want you showing their cars with their shit kicked in, dragging half a muffler behind it. I didn't realize there were still doofs who held this against a dev team. It looks even more insane given how much love and care went into this game. Bravo Poly, for car lovers this will be a treat.

  • @smittywerbenjagarmanjensen3059
    @smittywerbenjagarmanjensen3059 2 роки тому +35

    Ohh how I miss the days of just buying the disc and being able to just play the game without online only crap

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 2 роки тому +67

    I still boot up GT4 and GT6 sometimes to drive old cars that aren't included in modern games. It's a shame that GT7 likely won't have the same longevity because of the always online DRM.

    • @Dokm1n
      @Dokm1n Рік тому

      I mean, ps3 servers are still up, and the ps6 will probably still be retrocompatible with the ps4, so gt7 has at least 25 years of servers

  • @trevortrevor4209
    @trevortrevor4209 2 роки тому +369

    Thank you for talking about the DRM, it's so annoying to have this kind of things in a console game now.

    • @adroharv9213
      @adroharv9213 2 роки тому +69

      yup it's encouraging to see some channels point it out. The trouble is a lot of people don't really even know the concept of why it's a bad thing and will be dealt quite the shock if they find out the hard way
      This is worth speaking up for and unless we do they will keep pushing this practice

    • @thefirst48gaming2
      @thefirst48gaming2 2 роки тому +33

      Dont buy an xbox then all gamepass games use the always online drm mines set as home console can't play games unless I turn xbox online first

    • @adroharv9213
      @adroharv9213 2 роки тому +44

      @@thefirst48gaming2 no gamepass is a rental service where your subscription is justifiably checked. The DRM exists for exactly that reason. It's completely different. If I purchase on xbox and set it to home then I can play it entirely offline. That's most games. Halo Infinite does buck the trend however with it's campaign not being available to play offline thanks to a validation screen that pops up regardless. But gamepass you expect there for DRM to exist because that's the model

    • @thefirst48gaming2
      @thefirst48gaming2 2 роки тому +31

      @@adroharv9213 the drms not just for gamepass I can't even play games I've bought without signing in first

    • @ka7al958
      @ka7al958 2 роки тому +9

      @@thefirst48gaming2 Then there's a problem with your console, I can play Gamepass games offline just fine, even on accounts that i'm sharing it with, And games i own always work offline.

  • @soruyo210
    @soruyo210 2 роки тому +352

    Really really bummed about the online only. Yes I get it most already have internet but you can still run into random internet shut downs. It’s worse for a racing game where all your current race progress would be gone. Also defeats the purpose of being about to pause a race mid game onto rest mode, you’ll be forced to login back in and restart the race.

    • @jermainen7846
      @jermainen7846 2 роки тому +32

      True, I never thought about that. How will rest mode work? specially if you randomly loose internet connection while in rest mode? This could be a problem

    • @XBnPC
      @XBnPC 2 роки тому +38

      Yeah dude, online connection required Suuucks

    • @coolslc
      @coolslc 2 роки тому +25

      I’m with you on the online only crap… don’t get why it’s like that, what if the grid goes down, bastards!

    • @dontomaso11
      @dontomaso11 2 роки тому +33

      I didn't have an issue with always online until the release of hitman 2. My internet went haywire and for about 3 weeks I disconnected every other minute for a couple of minutes. I got apoligies from my provider of course, but it was just so ironic that it happened basically the same week as I got a single player game that requires online.
      After that I will never ever be "ok" with always online single player games. There is simply no reason why the should be always online, and internet CAN go down, even if you live in a highly connected country like me.

    • @coolslc
      @coolslc 2 роки тому +2

      @@dontomaso11 💯💯💯

  • @cesarcruz6947
    @cesarcruz6947 2 роки тому +285

    Stunning game with so many GT4 vibes...but why does it have to be always online? Every time a Dev does this I feel I'm renting a game with an expiration date. Or maybe I'm just too old and miss the way games used to be...

    • @fabolousjada5070
      @fabolousjada5070 2 роки тому +12

      Your old

    • @MegaRayland
      @MegaRayland 2 роки тому +14

      In the case of GT it seems to be tied to the online component. Remember that this is developed on the back of GT Sport, a game designed as mainly an online multiplayer game. That game’s online features were incredibly smooth being able to quickly jump into online events.
      And with everything you do in the game updating your standing in the global rankings and availability for online events it seems in part to be an (over)reaction to what online performance was back on the PS3 games. Instead of having the online features kick in on request just have the game online all the time updating in the background.
      On top of that, if the news of the new AI system are anything to go by, it is possible that online connectivity becomes even more relevant down the line.

    • @CinePhil101
      @CinePhil101 2 роки тому +16

      Piracy control

    • @flyingplantwhale545
      @flyingplantwhale545 2 роки тому +19

      Wait.. so you actually can’t play this game if your Wifi goes out?

    • @kriskater
      @kriskater 2 роки тому +2

      @@flyingplantwhale545 I believe you can

  • @sylwester7
    @sylwester7 2 роки тому +98

    "Soothing sounds of hooked on classics, Richard's favourite..." - that made my day! :D

  • @SimonBuchanNz
    @SimonBuchanNz 2 роки тому +28

    As only a dabbler in rendering, I'm still impressed by the headlight reflections in wet pavement, which they've been doing for generations.

  • @ludio36
    @ludio36 Рік тому +5

    I remember buying the first Hooked on Classics album when I was a kid. I recorded it from record to cassette tape and listened to it over and over again. It was a pleasant, nostalgic surprise to hear it play over the first race in this game.

  • @KingGameReview
    @KingGameReview 2 роки тому +63

    I prefer Forza Motorsport, but I'm still hyped for this game (preordered it back in September, should be here today). My biggest issue with GT games is probably minor - I don't like how the chase cam works. It's like attached to the car on a long stick. The camera rotates with the car 1:1. Play basically any other racing game and you'll see the difference. Other racing games have the camera follow more loosely, like a drone is following it or something. You can see some slight car rotation when turning. I mostly play with my wheel in first-person cam, though, so it's not usually an issue, but when I don't feel like getting the wheel set up, it's a minor annoyance that I always notice.

    • @wblue10
      @wblue10 2 роки тому +22

      I agree 100% and I wish they would add an option to at least have the possibility to change that. That’s a minor issue but still it something that I can’t stop thinking about and kind of ruins the game

    • @KingGameReview
      @KingGameReview 2 роки тому +10

      @@wblue10 I'm glad somebody else knows what I'm talking about. It's bizarre.

    • @andresromerodelgado6241
      @andresromerodelgado6241 2 роки тому +1

      Cars dont fly in gt7 sorry

    • @KingGameReview
      @KingGameReview 2 роки тому +15

      @@andresromerodelgado6241 wat

    • @person.w9780
      @person.w9780 2 роки тому +5

      @@wblue10 there is tho

  • @joker927
    @joker927 2 роки тому +42

    Amazing analysis. Ouch though, that online-only DRM really leaves a bad taste. Yuk.

    • @8-bitsteve500
      @8-bitsteve500 2 роки тому

      Same, our only response is to not buy it because buying it just endorses their shitty decision. I know it sucks not to play it, but so be it.

    • @joker927
      @joker927 2 роки тому

      @@8-bitsteve500 the real bummer is that even if they patch it out, you'll need a working psn connection to get that patch, defeating the purpose.

  • @mxthunder2
    @mxthunder2 2 роки тому +29

    as a huge retro gamer, i hate the fact that its online only.

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 2 роки тому

      Preventing piracy

    • @lesuardeder9604
      @lesuardeder9604 2 роки тому +8

      @@melxvee6850 By not letting legitimate buyers own the game? That's ingenious.

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 2 роки тому

      @@lesuardeder9604 just cuz it's online to you it means you don't own the game?

    • @lesuardeder9604
      @lesuardeder9604 2 роки тому +8

      @@melxvee6850 Yes that's what it means. You don't own a game that relies on a server connection to run and will turn into a paperweight a few years down the line when they shut down the servers. Paying for something that can and WILL be taken away from you later is not ownership.

    • @TheCreepyArchives
      @TheCreepyArchives 2 роки тому +3

      You live in a 3rd world country bro? I don't need the game to work in 10 years, I'll have the next game.

  • @senseihEnRY16
    @senseihEnRY16 2 роки тому +67

    The always online nature of this game is kinda a deal breaker for me, i hate it on GT Sport (although multiplayer is the point of that game) and i'm pretty sure i'll hate it on this too. I also hate the size of racing game this day, even Forza Horizon 5 reach 100+ GB and i'm affraid to see how much space i need to provide for this game (plus all the new contents) when i finally get PS5 in 2077

    • @tero581
      @tero581 2 роки тому +1

      lol Yup you are a gamer.

    • @agus.lorenzo
      @agus.lorenzo 2 роки тому +2

      I don't remember seeing npc's with PS5s in Cyberpunk 2077, I would say maybe around 2177 you'll get your PS5.

    • @kriever
      @kriever 2 роки тому

      The games are gigantic because they are incredibly detailed.
      The problem is the hard disk price and the time to download.

    • @ottom.3094
      @ottom.3094 2 роки тому +1

      Buy the disc….. simple

    • @extreme123dz
      @extreme123dz 2 роки тому +1

      @@kriever The problem is that this is 2022 and still we cant get as a standar for everyone a 8tb HDD or 2.5TB SSD....i repeat, Standar 50/100$ universal 8TBHDD/2.5SSD

  • @6TheBACH
    @6TheBACH 2 роки тому +12

    GT7 is an Online Only Game now. You can't no longer simply enjoy Gran Turismo now. Rip Gaming 4Ever.

    • @fajaradi1223
      @fajaradi1223 2 роки тому +2

      Don't forget to thanks DF for reporting this

  • @id104335409
    @id104335409 2 роки тому +46

    How is it back to its roots when it's all online? Career mode is something that shouldn't require an online connection. I understand that online racing is where they want to be, but not everything should depend on it.

    • @GoodStoryGames
      @GoodStoryGames 2 роки тому +5

      I don't get it. Do you guys have a problem with your internet? Something tells me you guys wasn't going to buy it anyway but just want something to complain about. Because if this was Apex legends or warzone there wouldn't be a problem as those games are online only. I'm sorry you don't have more to whine about as this game is polished AF.

    • @GoodStoryGames
      @GoodStoryGames 2 роки тому

      @Esuard Leder Well technically this is primarily a multiplayer game.

    • @id104335409
      @id104335409 2 роки тому +1

      @@GoodStoryGames there will always be some of you and there will always be some of us.

    • @Luiko0406
      @Luiko0406 2 роки тому +2

      no ray tracing during gameplay
      as expected from weakstation 5
      $1000 pc is 3x faster than weakstation 5

    • @core4365
      @core4365 2 роки тому +4

      Just really sucks knowing you can't enjoy the game 10-15 years down the road like literally every other game.

  • @liberatorkramit
    @liberatorkramit 2 роки тому +44

    "True to its roots, but also Fresh" The best line that can be said for a driving game.
    And what we are all hoping for in Forza Motorsport.

    • @shioyoutube9041
      @shioyoutube9041 2 роки тому +2

      I can’t wait for us to get a Forza that looks even better than GT like usual and is offline without predatory grind and micro transactions, it’ll completely kick GT’s ass and hopefully teach Polyphony a lesson.

    • @neomaxmlc
      @neomaxmlc Рік тому

      Cope. Forza 8 from what has been shown so far looks like trash.

    • @LucaHereFor3MonthsPremium
      @LucaHereFor3MonthsPremium Рік тому +3

      ​@@shioyoutube9041 how's that going

    • @solid_justice5855
      @solid_justice5855 Рік тому +2

      ​@@shioyoutube9041 how wrong can you be in a single comment lol

  • @CDubya.82
    @CDubya.82 2 роки тому +30

    If like GT Sport, you can’t access the single player campaign when offline….it’s a deal breaker for me. 👎

    • @billpogi23
      @billpogi23 2 роки тому

      Kids

    • @drunksquirrel2051
      @drunksquirrel2051 2 роки тому

      K, bye then

    • @Serandi1987
      @Serandi1987 6 місяців тому

      GT7 needs the power of the PS5 Pro! I had this game in 2022 but bought a PS5 at the end of 2023 and played this game only for some days and then sold the PS5 again only to wait for the PS5 Pro and FINALLY enjoy the game to the fullest like it should be!✅

  • @virajpawar750
    @virajpawar750 2 роки тому +264

    VR mode with psvr2 will be so awesome in this game 🤩

    • @FrankLotion9461
      @FrankLotion9461 2 роки тому +46

      Psvr2 with steering wheel support

    • @jimmypage1969
      @jimmypage1969 2 роки тому +10

      @@FrankLotion9461 that should go without saying 😁 Playing with a controller should only be for nfs games

    • @Romanplaystation
      @Romanplaystation 2 роки тому +13

      My initial thoughts too. GT Sport was my very first VR experience, and it was jaw dropping for me. Completely blew my mind.
      Still love my PSVR, but also 2023 and PSVR2 cannot come soon enough. 😍

    • @TheBrennanSchafer
      @TheBrennanSchafer 2 роки тому +7

      Simracers and flight sims are definitely the best genres to play on VR but the PS5's hardware is going to struggle playing a game this demanding in VR and frame-rates needed for it - even with graphics dumbed down. It may be able to be played in VR once they release the game for PC. That may even be why there have been rumors floating around that the PSVR2 may end up being PC- compatible. Certainly would be a much better VR experience with higher-end hardware.

    • @techknow9237
      @techknow9237 2 роки тому

      ...but not at £500,!

  • @Destroyah5000
    @Destroyah5000 2 роки тому +128

    I appreciate the awareness of making the game online-only being a drawback. Imagine your router goes out when getting serious in even the non-multiplayer races. Make it simple and give us a FULL offline mode.

    • @CC42_
      @CC42_ 2 роки тому +10

      It's total bs

    • @fczuardi
      @fczuardi 2 роки тому +5

      Offline mode needs to improve a lot before I consider buying this game. We could be talking about a great entry in the series, but DRM is simply wrong.

    • @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube
      @TheKayliedGamerChannel-YouTube 2 роки тому +1

      @Esuard Leder if it needs a day one patch to play day one then chances are it will disappear from servers and shelves at some point... and become obsolete

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 2 роки тому +1

      @Esuard Leder Not necessarily true that's one of the awesome things about community servers for games like Team Fortress 2 basically it makes it where the lifetime of a game is up to the community even if official servers shut down.
      That's why there's been a big effort to set up unofficial community servers for a bunch of PS3 games recently it's when the developer takes that freedom away from you that it becomes a problem but then that's where emulation comes in to save the day when developers don't care about game preservation.

    • @theninjamaster67
      @theninjamaster67 2 роки тому +3

      @Esuard Leder How the hell is that naive there's community servers for the original Demon Souls through the emulator RPCS3 and that game is old as shit at this point so why wouldn't people eventually set up community servers.
      I'd also suggest looking up this fan group called PSONE as they've been setting up some community servers and so far they have a few servers up for Motorstorm, Warhawk, Killzone 2, Socom Confrontation, WipeoutHD, Calling all Cars, and Twisted Metal Black as a few examples they have up so far (and they're working on more).
      Trust me it's not naive to believe there might be community servers made in the future especially with all the efforts being made to preserve all these older online titles now, believing something like that is naive just undermines all the hard work that has been done by these dedicated groups so far.

  • @ChaosAngelZero
    @ChaosAngelZero 2 роки тому +5

    Remember the PlayStation press conference from E3 2013?
    Remember how one of the on-screen messages read "Disc based games won't require you to check-in online"?

  • @mrs323
    @mrs323 2 роки тому +112

    Man, watching this video makes me want to travel and see the world! But having to always be online is insane. I get it for doing online stuff but good grief, you should be able to do single player/ local multiplayer (is that even possible) without an internet connection!

    • @toddgrant6133
      @toddgrant6133 2 роки тому +10

      But they can't force you to buy the new game when the old one is out of service then

    • @8-bitsteve500
      @8-bitsteve500 2 роки тому +14

      @@toddgrant6133 Then I'll pass on this and they lost a sale and I'm betting I'm not the only one. Ridiculous decision devs.

    • @8-bitsteve500
      @8-bitsteve500 2 роки тому +2

      @@theoroinvictus wow, really. That's absurd

    • @phinch1
      @phinch1 2 роки тому +4

      It's 2022, if you have a PS5... you obviously have the internet

    • @8-bitsteve500
      @8-bitsteve500 2 роки тому +18

      @@phinch1 I do have internet, never said I didn't. When it comes to gaming I've had 3 rules and it works well for me: 1: don't play F2P games, 2: don't buy 'games as a service' games and 3: don't buy online only games. I hope you enjoy the game and get a ton of fun out of it but for the only reason only, I'll not be buying it.

  • @rinzlur-k6m
    @rinzlur-k6m 2 роки тому +74

    I have always wanted to play GT since I was a kid when I would see them on the GamePro magazines. Now that I have a PS5 this will be my 1st GT experience. I was hesitant to try it out but you sold me. Can’t wait to play it.

    • @JamesGraydon
      @JamesGraydon 2 роки тому +4

      Its the real driving simulator!

    • @candycabngfl
      @candycabngfl 2 роки тому

      Nice. Hopefully the single player experience holds up to the previous games. As someone who has been playing since the original I can say the older games still hold up very well and are still a very unique experience. Hoping they port some of the older titles to newer hardware and maybe put out another Tourist Trophy like game.

    • @seizonsha
      @seizonsha 2 роки тому +1

      You will be bored to death. Reply when you play 20 hours.

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 2 роки тому +1

      Can't wait to rent it. Point of correction.

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 2 роки тому +2

      @@candycabngfl I'd rather play a drm free GT6 than this pathetic nonsense of a drm scam. I'm not paying 70 dollars to rent a game.

  • @SomeDudeDan
    @SomeDudeDan 2 роки тому +23

    Thanks for this good review! I would like to mention that they really did a good job with their music choices! Also, the DualSense is just mind blowing, you can really feel every bump, skid throughout the races, it is really amazing!

    • @abrams5819
      @abrams5819 Рік тому +1

      Gran Turismo had always been top notch in the music department, it perfectly complements the obsession for detail and stylistic maturity of the game.

  • @nvc.
    @nvc. 2 роки тому +79

    Its such a shame that a masterpiece of a game like GT7 seems to be, is locked over an internet connection... Its so sad man... Why couldnt they let us create 2 types of single player files, one that hould lets us only play offline, and another that hould only let us play online, and everyone could play the way they wanted...

    • @Masckerdoom
      @Masckerdoom 2 роки тому +1

      It launched and it looks like shit

    • @Mateus01234
      @Mateus01234 2 роки тому

      you`ll have more fun playing project cars

    • @gamingjay141
      @gamingjay141 2 роки тому +1

      @@Masckerdoom No it does NOT. The game looks astonishing. You must play on cockpit and no HUD.

    • @Masckerdoom
      @Masckerdoom 2 роки тому +2

      @@gamingjay141 some parts look bad and some parts look good I'll give you that

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 роки тому +4

      @@gamingjay141 It looks good but it’s not a huge leap over PS4 games, and Forza blows it out of the water. The scummy business decisions are a massive load of rotten icing on the mouldy PS3-based cake.

  • @fgcgamer
    @fgcgamer 2 роки тому +19

    man why online only, do they want people to not buy it

  • @ledrevolver
    @ledrevolver 2 роки тому +54

    Thanks for reporting on the online only aspect. I was blindsided by GT sport as I was expecting something akin to gt4 :(

    • @toddgrant6133
      @toddgrant6133 2 роки тому +3

      It's all the way downhill as for the Online only / Renting Game part from now on

  • @foxsux6000
    @foxsux6000 2 роки тому +15

    The graphics of the PS2 were really amazing, i mean it had bump mapping/tessellation and everything.

    • @vinniethegreat9645
      @vinniethegreat9645 2 роки тому +3

      Yeah the jump from PS1 to PS2 was massive.

    • @Daniel-bs8wv
      @Daniel-bs8wv 2 роки тому

      As far as I know, PS2 doesn't have the hardware to do either bump mapping or tessellation. Having said that, GT3 on PS2 still looks amazing 20+ years on

    • @foxsux6000
      @foxsux6000 2 роки тому

      @@Daniel-bs8wv PS2 did hardware bump mapping, the PS2 is more advanced than people think.

    • @Daniel-bs8wv
      @Daniel-bs8wv 2 роки тому

      @@foxsux6000 You may be right Mark, but I have yet to see evidence that PS2 could do it. Unless it was very low precision bump mapping that doesn't hold up under scrutiny - which is also likely done through software, not hardware. Certainly nowhere close to the bump mapping achieved on the original XBox.

    • @foxsux6000
      @foxsux6000 2 роки тому

      @@Daniel-bs8wv it's on the google (lol)

  • @guitarsimon1
    @guitarsimon1 2 роки тому +42

    Every time a new GT comes out I think “This is it, this is the best driving games will ever look, how could it possibly get better than this?” And Polyphony prove me so wrong every time.

    • @Leaddevo
      @Leaddevo 2 роки тому +6

      Well, Forza has been proving that wrong for a while.

    • @JorgeGonzalez-cg3gp
      @JorgeGonzalez-cg3gp 2 роки тому

      Really????

    • @urracojalpa4481
      @urracojalpa4481 2 роки тому +4

      @@Luci2310 Are you for real? have you not seen the Digital foundry video about Forza7? It comes close yes, but to GT Sport! GT Sport demolishes Forza7 in terms of visual fidelity, of course GT7 is on a whole another level.
      If you don't believe me search the digital Foundry video about FM7 VS GT Sport or read the Eurogamer article (which is a transcript of the video).

    • @urracojalpa4481
      @urracojalpa4481 2 роки тому +5

      ​@@Luci2310 _"And whereas Forza Motorsport 7 goes way beyond the call of duty, GT Sport takes things to a whole new level. Higher polygon counts on incidental detail - right down to in-cabin air vents - show Polyphony's modelling standing up better on the most close-range inspection. Physically-based lighting and material properties are also a cut-above. It's interesting to compare the two cars with identical paint schemes - Forza looks phenomenal, but a little artificial, whereas Gran Turismo's MX-5 sits more naturally within the scene. The more you compare the two titles, the more the difference in lighting makes an impact - it's clearly been an area of intense focus for Polyphony in particular."_
      _"Polyphony's extreme standards see its models stand up to the most insane level of scrutiny in a way that Forza's models can't quite match."_
      Now, how could a game that's behind GT Sport look close to GT7?
      P.S. watch the video to see the difference with your own eyes.

    • @Luci2310
      @Luci2310 2 роки тому +1

      @@urracojalpa4481 and the surroundings seems to Come from Grand rheft auto 3, the cars are beautiful, the racing is very good but i miss quite a lot fun factor un bodyworks, track designs.

  • @aaronjessome1032
    @aaronjessome1032 2 роки тому +26

    The online dependency is a deal breaker for me, I won't be buying this game yet unless that changes. I wasted my money on gt sport because of that. I was really excited for this release and it just feels held back because of being a ps4 game as well. I had the most fun and sunk so many hours into gt3 on ps2. I miss those days.

    • @drunksquirrel2051
      @drunksquirrel2051 2 роки тому +1

      K, bye

    • @spunkysamuel
      @spunkysamuel 2 роки тому

      Okay if it feels held back to you, then what exactly would be better if it wasn't "held back"

    • @dankswank9088
      @dankswank9088 2 роки тому +1

      @@drunksquirrel2051identifying with the stick that beats you isn't a flex, bro

    • @spunkysamuel
      @spunkysamuel 2 роки тому

      @@dankswank9088 So because if there wasn't a PS4 version of the game, suddenly the game wouldn't be online only?

    • @spaceman-pe5je
      @spaceman-pe5je 2 роки тому

      @@dankswank9088 haha yeah, a video game requiring an internet connection is "the stick that beats you"

  • @Chris_Redpilled
    @Chris_Redpilled 2 роки тому +19

    Kinda shitty that you can't play offline.

  • @NotoriousRawDogger
    @NotoriousRawDogger 2 роки тому +38

    This is unacceptable. We don't need drm in our games.

    • @AzaiaMonota
      @AzaiaMonota 2 роки тому +12

      It's worse than DRM this is server reliant

    • @NotoriousRawDogger
      @NotoriousRawDogger 2 роки тому +7

      @@AzaiaMonota what if the server crashes on launch day with all the traffic?

    • @derpthegr8689
      @derpthegr8689 2 роки тому +5

      @@NotoriousRawDogger then nobody plays GT7 that day🤷🏻‍♂️

  • @dragothica4925
    @dragothica4925 2 роки тому +11

    PS2 version of Trial Mountain still looks really good!

    • @SIPEROTH
      @SIPEROTH 2 роки тому +2

      GT2 and GT4 are still my favorites. This could have been up there if the single player wasn't locked behind online DRM.

  • @KingTairun
    @KingTairun 2 роки тому +14

    awesome review showing it is online only an unplayable without connection

  • @damienkrawczuk1435
    @damienkrawczuk1435 2 роки тому +55

    Yeah online only games are a full red flag for me, I'm extremely cautious about it, other than that, still immensely enjoyable, bit of a shame there's no ray tracing during gameplay, but I'm guessing performance issues would suffer because of it I guess? Truth be told I'm quite impressed with the weather effects, kinda hope seeing it's an online game we may get more classic tracks like Trial hill, and that beautiful Racing/rally track with that snowy mountain in the background track, I'm kinda hoping there's a 'Players choice Anniversary' kinda thing with the tracks in the future were we get more original tracks, but I'm barely Two hours into it and have no idea if there's more original tracks, I'm actually really hoping, there's some original tracks as DLC in gt sport for the VR mode, trial mountain and some of those rally tracks from GT2, in VR would be super duper sweet, awesome performance review of GT7 I'll be watching that other one too where you compare the PS4 one with the ps5, bit of a curious crispy to see the difference between the 2, well done guys cheers again 👍

    • @frankymcjohnson4494
      @frankymcjohnson4494 2 роки тому +1

      If you're saying it's a red flag but still getting the game you're a hypocrite. NEVER support always online games.

    • @damienkrawczuk1435
      @damienkrawczuk1435 2 роки тому +2

      @@frankymcjohnson4494 didn't realise till I already had it, no one talked about it and no one said anything about it, if I had known I probably would of never have gotten it, and it's too late to return it now, yeah I got crappy internet but when it decides not to work I'll play other games it just won't be apart of my most played games list, got pretty disappointed when I saw the 'online only' badge on the cover, but these new games that come out they seriously need to say right at the start it's a 'online only' game, otherwise there'll be alot more annoyed, jaded and disappointed gamers out there, next game I'm interested in I'll definitely be asking is does it support online/offline play, what's more annoying about it I pre ordered this awhile ago, got caught up with the excitement of it, I'll be more cautious in the future

    • @Jason74357
      @Jason74357 2 роки тому

      10.2 tflops is only so much

  • @Trag1cMag1c
    @Trag1cMag1c 2 роки тому +7

    I always play with the trailing camera behind the car. Just my preference.
    There is an odd camera tilt when the car leans through a corner, and I'm not a fan of it.

    • @antoinecutler4962
      @antoinecutler4962 2 роки тому +1

      Yes it is definitely odd

    • @pindzyn
      @pindzyn 2 роки тому

      Same here. I prefer Tpp view but in GT Sport and in GT7 is the same shity view.

  • @emeraldarts
    @emeraldarts 2 роки тому +9

    that offline mode gonna be a problem- I wanna progress offline then appear online

  • @juliothom2408
    @juliothom2408 2 роки тому +17

    Okay. So, I cannot play GT7 without a constant internet connection, even if I want to play by myself? How is this OK, especially when I can play offline in the competition's equivalent?
    I don't want to sound alarmist, but we know with 100% certainty that Sony WILL shut off access to digital stores and such without remorse. This game shouldn't NEED to be 100% online.

    • @juliothom2408
      @juliothom2408 2 роки тому +3

      @Andy I don’t mind always on for the right type of game. But a racer isn’t that type of game. I can play 25 year old GT1 in my PS1 right now. I should be able to do the same thing if I have a GT7 disc and a working console.

  • @TorqueEffect
    @TorqueEffect 2 роки тому +26

    Yeah don't buy this game if you want it to be a paperweight.
    We've seen how fast Polyphony Digital shuts down the GT servers. And even if they patch it out, it will still be on the game disc, so once the PSN servers for PS4/PS5 are pulled down, you won't be able to get the patch that un-drms the game.

    • @you2be839
      @you2be839 2 роки тому +4

      That a whole topic on its own, because having gamesaves tied to gamepatch versions is a huge issue given that Sony still does not offer a way to save gamepatches offline or install gamepatches from offline.
      And if you uninstall the gamedata to clear way for other games and then, years later, for some reason you can't download the gamepatch from Sony's servers, then all of your gamesaves are useless.

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 2 роки тому +1

      @@you2be839 It's part of their game plan. They know what they're doing.

  • @JKSmith-qs2ii
    @JKSmith-qs2ii 2 роки тому +53

    The online only requirement sadly kills it for me. Truly a shame.

    • @HaveAniceDay2450
      @HaveAniceDay2450 2 роки тому +1

      It sounds like this is not a game for you

    • @melxb
      @melxb 2 роки тому +2

      why when u'd play it fine by the time it could ever become an issue, which also will likely get patched by then, but u'd already be playing gran turismo 10 or later 🤷‍♂️

    • @kcbetong3700
      @kcbetong3700 2 роки тому +7

      @@melxb Gran Turismo 5 was released 2010-11-24 and the servers officially shut down 2014-05-30! So you will only be able to play this game until 2026 and then it will no longer be playable! GT sport also have DRM implementation and was never patched, DRM is simply something the developer want in these games and it litterally breaks the game in a few years.

    • @melxb
      @melxb 2 роки тому +3

      @@kcbetong3700 good enough by then if they dont i'll have seen everything there is to see from the game and have moved on to gt 8 gt 9 and a new console 🤷‍♂️

  • @Burebista_82-44BCE
    @Burebista_82-44BCE 2 роки тому +5

    WE SHOULD PROTEST AGAINST "Online Only " by NOT BUYING THOSE GAMES ANYMORE!! I'm playing on Xbox and I'm with you on this shit DRM!

  • @stopstalkingmebruh6021
    @stopstalkingmebruh6021 2 роки тому +10

    Can't even consider buying this game since it's online only :( what a shame...

  • @StubbyPhillips
    @StubbyPhillips 2 роки тому +14

    Man! I was SO excited about this until you got to part about the online crap. Next thing you know it'll be "subscription" then what? Pay per lap? Oh well... nope.

  • @avoidingbadlife
    @avoidingbadlife 2 роки тому +18

    Such a thoroughly made review with such detail that I have never watched a similar video review before. Thank you for this and great job seriously. The review in my opinion truly shows the passion for cars and attention to detail as a whole. 10/10 for the review!

    • @tgreg9542
      @tgreg9542 2 роки тому

      Digital Foundry is the best channel for this💯 top tier content

  • @JDoG867
    @JDoG867 Рік тому +5

    As a Forza dude 1-7. I’ve officially jumped ship!

    • @ld9387
      @ld9387 Рік тому +2

      I'm thinking of jumping ship. The new Motorsport is disappointing

    • @ZayFlxx
      @ZayFlxx 11 місяців тому +2

      I just jumped ship too lol😂
      Only keeping my series X for Horizon 5. Hopefully Microsoft brings that game to PlayStation 😅

  • @dav2-094
    @dav2-094 2 роки тому +34

    "Always online", that's a shame... Last year I bought GT6 for the PS3, 8 yearss after it's original release (don't ask why), if someone was to do something like that with GT7 and bought it in 8 years, they probably won't be able to play

    • @The_Wailing_Doom
      @The_Wailing_Doom 2 роки тому +3

      Not necessarily. Some companies remove the online requirement with a patch when sunsetting a game.

    • @corey_massey
      @corey_massey 2 роки тому +3

      Bruh..... this is by far the stupidest thing ever said on the internet......the game is somehow disappointing because it requires the internet.......SAID ON THE INTERNET!!!! You and like 7 other people are buying a game 8 years after the game release. 8 years from now GT8 will be out and you'll be on an entirely different console.

    • @sleepy_killer
      @sleepy_killer 2 роки тому +2

      Gt6 was so good bruh

    • @sleepy_killer
      @sleepy_killer 2 роки тому +14

      @@corey_massey some people don't have stable internet or not internet at all stop defending games

    • @keshavsakthi546
      @keshavsakthi546 2 роки тому +7

      @@corey_massey in a country like mine where internet is always not stable or when I take it on trips to plug it into any tv. This does become a huge pain point mate. I also don't understand why it's necessary

  • @SergeantMoetz
    @SergeantMoetz 2 роки тому +33

    Some people moaned about the 400 cars available at launch not being enough but I'd rather have 400 ridiculously detailed cars across the board instead of 800 less detailed models. Makes you appreciate the time and effort put into every single car even more.

    • @thomevans3560
      @thomevans3560 2 роки тому +2

      Totally, only negative is that models are from 2017 and below, nothing really brand new from the last 5 years... Apparently

    • @east00
      @east00 2 роки тому

      Yes those cars had 8k assets reportedly

    • @CinePhil101
      @CinePhil101 2 роки тому +2

      400 minus lots and lots of boring cars

    • @EpiCz_Izzy
      @EpiCz_Izzy 2 роки тому +2

      @@thomevans3560 I saw a car list online that included Toyota Supra 2020 but overall yeah there aren’t many newer cars.

    • @635574
      @635574 2 роки тому

      Bo doubt they will make more cars lateral unless they really stupid

  • @MadX8
    @MadX8 Рік тому +1

    I know it's late but for everyone wondering what is the song at 0:43 => AL1V3 - Daiki Kasho

  • @N7RiZe
    @N7RiZe 2 роки тому +26

    The reason behind the Online only nature by Kaz is laughable. It's done to prevent save game modding. I'm not sure about you guys but save game modding hasn't been a thing since PS3/360 era as everything is saved in the cloud now anyway. Correct me if I'm wrong, but save game modding is an untrue excuse for a game to be online only especially when it's a single player focused game.

    • @crusf
      @crusf 2 роки тому +1

      Ps4 Save Modding is very much possible.

    • @Yeedman
      @Yeedman 2 роки тому +2

      why would they even give a fuck about save game modding? it's the customer's own game, they should able to do whatever they want in singleplayer

    • @Countless_Relics
      @Countless_Relics 2 роки тому

      @Esuard Leder Correct.
      The thing is, when my internetconnection stops, I still would like to play. Seems it's not allowed.
      A while ago, I bought Mortal Kombat 11 in a sale.
      Didn't knew it was always online.
      So I was playing, connection stopped, and I was catapulted to the title screen.
      As a response, I deleted the game. Easy as that.

    • @StanceSantos
      @StanceSantos 2 роки тому +2

      You need to do more research then because there’s a piece of software for PC called save wizard which can mod and resign PS4 save files. And since this game is available on PS4 and has micro transactions it’s a pretty obvious decision

    • @N7RiZe
      @N7RiZe 2 роки тому

      @@StanceSantos fair enough, I wasn't aware that the PS4 saves locally. I imagine that's a PS+ feature.

  • @alihouadef5539
    @alihouadef5539 2 роки тому +32

    That internet component is deal-breaker.

    • @amunra1743
      @amunra1743 2 роки тому

      So dont buy it all of you whinners, people who dont give a fuck about that will buy the game....millions of them.

    • @CC42_
      @CC42_ 2 роки тому +3

      You are whats wrong with gaming today then if that's your attitude. This is about not being able to own your game. Once the servers are shut down it becomes a $70 paperweight. You literally won't be able to play the game you bought. Imagine if all your games did this.
      You want to not be able to own and replay your games 5 years from now? Do you realize how stupid it looks when you call people a whiner for something so anti consumer?
      Makes you look like a bootlicker and an immature punk.

    • @ninetendopesaitama2107
      @ninetendopesaitama2107 2 роки тому

      @@amunra1743 mimimi. You sound ridicoulus . I guess you realized gt7 looks hideous compared to forza. And now you dumble down. Sad.

  • @smirmeister
    @smirmeister 2 роки тому +49

    Been playing the GT series since 5 & 6 on PS3, so many good memories. I stopped when GT6 servers were shut down and haven't touched a console since... I was waiting for GT7, as it was to change that. I was SO onboard - Until the online only aspect. I was going to buy a PS5 just for this game, but not any more. I've waited a long time and I will wait longer to see if PD fixes this in a meaningful way.

    • @GTFour
      @GTFour 2 роки тому +9

      Not worth missing out on for that one drawback alone.

    • @Thefonz94
      @Thefonz94 2 роки тому +1

      Gt8 might come out ten years from now lol

    • @MegaItouchhelper
      @MegaItouchhelper 2 роки тому +4

      bruh why do you worry so much about being online.. it's the future and that will never change lmao. who the fuck doesn't have internet nowadays

    • @MeganeMondeoMX5
      @MeganeMondeoMX5 2 роки тому +12

      @@MegaItouchhelper "Bruh" have you ever had the internet go down? Ever taken the console away somewhere that doesn't have constant connectivity?

    • @07acanoia
      @07acanoia 2 роки тому +1

      Good grief. End of the world I guess huh

  • @Runie549
    @Runie549 2 роки тому +12

    On one hand, this was an entertaining, well made video.
    OTOH, you could've LED with the "always online" thing, instead of building my hopes up and then blowing them to pieces at the end like that :(

  • @sejanoz
    @sejanoz 2 роки тому +9

    That scene with the AMG at 7:17 is out of this world

    • @recca7
      @recca7 2 роки тому +1

      I didn't know the GT Black series was in it👏👏

  • @arl961
    @arl961 2 роки тому +1

    “ Projection of shadow looks amazing” I really can see the pixels around the shadow…

  • @r4dius
    @r4dius 2 роки тому +7

    Everything was looking good until the end where you say it's online only .. I'm not getting a driving game that requires internet connection to play anytime soon

  • @macsmith2013
    @macsmith2013 2 роки тому +15

    PD has dialed back the LoD in some places significantly since launch, I think another review would be in order.

  • @thefoss721
    @thefoss721 2 роки тому

    Super sick opening song and punchy finish with these scenes playing in the back… good work digital foundry I can tell you spent a lot of work into this video 🙏🙏🙏

  • @bukweat
    @bukweat 2 роки тому +5

    Sony studios do a fantastic job with photomode in games and replays in Grand Tourismo.

  • @Nedemis
    @Nedemis 2 роки тому +11

    I think this game needs to be re-reviewed by all outlets seeing as Sony and PD have changed more than enough of the game AFTER they got it into consumers hands.
    It's a garbage tactic that's sadly being pulled more and more these days and their previous Metacritic scores need to reflect what they do.

    • @nephillim8641
      @nephillim8641 2 роки тому +1

      @JRW they reworked credits earned for certain races and added really high priced mtx. They made it take like 100 hours to get a highest end car.

    • @justanotheryoutubechannel
      @justanotheryoutubechannel 2 роки тому +1

      @JRW They changed the economy repeatedly to make it significantly grindier with reduced credit rewards, and jacked up the price of the microtransactions, and made many of the cars limited time offers to make people want them more, but due to the high cost it’s impossible to legitimately earn most of them as it takes 100 hours of grinding the best tracks to unlock a premium car, or you can just pay the low, low price of FORTY DOLLARS. And that’s only the average for premium cars, they can go up to TWO-HUNDRED DOLLARS. PER CAR. It’s disgustingly scummy, and it gets worse: after they got user-review-bombed down to the lowest rating in PlayStation history, they made the economy more forgiving until a bunch of outlets published stories talking about how the developers listened, but then they made it way worse again to rinse people for more cash.

  • @AnANas00-x3p
    @AnANas00-x3p 2 роки тому +9

    Always online is a deal breaker. No buy from me. Yes I have internet, but that's not the point.

    • @AnANas00-x3p
      @AnANas00-x3p 2 роки тому +2

      @Esuard Leder gaming has become mainstream. Now I'm ashamed to say I'm a gamer.

  • @popefacto5945
    @popefacto5945 2 роки тому +19

    Bummer about being "online only". Canceling my preorder. Maybe I'll give $20 for it.

    • @lesuardeder9604
      @lesuardeder9604 2 роки тому +3

      I wouldn't even waste $20 on a game I can't own due to being tied to a server. This is something that Free2Play games do.

  • @bluwolf9357
    @bluwolf9357 2 роки тому +32

    As much as I love the series, the 'always online' requirement and the microtransactions killed this one for me. I refuse to support this type of practices.

    • @LyamBenacon
      @LyamBenacon 2 роки тому +2

      What microtransactions buddy?

    • @tysopiccaso8711
      @tysopiccaso8711 2 роки тому +1

      Lmao what?

    • @melxvee6850
      @melxvee6850 2 роки тому +1

      What year you living in and what game you talking about here, $10 for unlimited WiFi in almost every country, cheap af, you complaining for nothing

    • @Somone_final_final_v2
      @Somone_final_final_v2 2 роки тому +4

      @@melxvee6850 it definitely isn't $10 for unlimited internet around the world. The point is irrelevant anyway as it makes no sense to make singleplayer online.
      Just adds extra loading and limits when/where can play.

    • @lesuardeder9604
      @lesuardeder9604 2 роки тому +6

      @@melxvee6850 This is about ownership. You don't get the point at all. Something that can and WILL be taken away from you due to running on servers can not be owned. Enjoy your paperweight in a few years. Meanwhile, my copies of GT1-GT6 will continue to work forever.

  • @steel5897
    @steel5897 2 роки тому +11

    GT5 and GT6 are completely crippled now because they shut off the servers, especially GT5 which has almost no content without the online events.
    Meanwhile GT4 can be enjoyed in all its glory exactly like in 2005, today.
    I really despise requiring online, it gives the game an expiration date.

    • @Djmatrix2310
      @Djmatrix2310 2 роки тому +1

      GT5 completely crippled? I've been playing recently on my PS3 and it's very much payable with no online mode.

    • @ass.blaster2000
      @ass.blaster2000 2 роки тому +1

      GT6 works if you disconnect from the internet in PS3 settings

  • @silverfox__12
    @silverfox__12 2 роки тому +9

    What is the system that is requiring an online connection? I don't understand why it is requiring to be connected to the internet. This is very upsetting.

  • @lahma69
    @lahma69 2 роки тому +36

    While I would really love to play this game, I won't spend a penny on it until the online requirement is removed. Utterly unacceptable bs...

    • @tchlin
      @tchlin 2 роки тому +8

      Cool story. I get mine Friday.

    • @alvybar2990
      @alvybar2990 2 роки тому +4

      @@tchlin same lol

    • @WhirlingMusic
      @WhirlingMusic 2 роки тому +5

      @@tchlin I'll laugh if the servers have problems and you can't play. I'm sure you'll still won't care but it'll make you look even more like a biatch

    • @dankswank9088
      @dankswank9088 2 роки тому +1

      @@tchlin performative apathy isn't a flex, dude; it's just embarrassing

  • @TripMX
    @TripMX 2 роки тому +18

    I was smiling brightly throughout this DF analysis...that is, until the mention of an online-only DRM, which ruined everything. That being said, I don’t commit to buying online-only single-player games, and it’s a damn shame for GT7.

    • @0-A2
      @0-A2 2 роки тому +5

      Ironic a decade ago they were clowning Don Mattrick and Xbox for this but now their staple franchise from the beginning has this online DRM.

    • @you2be839
      @you2be839 2 роки тому +1

      I too never purchased an 'online only' game in my whole gaming life.

  • @U2ber4lif3
    @U2ber4lif3 2 роки тому +8

    Dont care how good a game is. I will not buy an always online game. Never have and never will

  • @dkropelnicki9819
    @dkropelnicki9819 2 роки тому +11

    Always online?! What a let down.

  • @wiegraf9009
    @wiegraf9009 2 роки тому +2

    Having experimented with RT in a handful of other racing games, I'm really not convinced that RT reflections add much to real time game play. A 120 fps frame rate is much more transformative. RT shadows, on the other hand, do make a difference to actual racing and I think they're worth including in real time game play. Would have been nice if we got a 1080p60 mode with RT shadows as an option.

  • @MrShadow2x
    @MrShadow2x 2 роки тому +4

    Man oh man, this game is gorgeous. I'm not big into cars, but Gran Turismo always impresses non-gamer friends, especially those who love cars in a way I'll never understand. I kept getting more excited throughout the video, until the ball dropped on the online DRM requirement. I don't buy games that do that (don't anyone try to argue with me, I'm not changing my mind). That being said, this might be one exception I make. I'm torn.

    • @dankswank9088
      @dankswank9088 2 роки тому +1

      We can't blame you for being torn, nor would we hate you for deciding to buy it. That said, getting the game second-hand (either by getting a used physical copy of getting a digital key from a reseller), along with avoiding all microtransactions in the game, would send a very clear message to Sony that you love the game but are unwilling to give them any money for it because of the DRM.

    • @MrShadow2x
      @MrShadow2x 2 роки тому +1

      @@dankswank9088 I like this suggestion. I do prefer supporting the devs and publishers when I buy games, but in this case, I think you have a good compromise. It might be what I end up doing.

  • @NetshadeX
    @NetshadeX 2 роки тому +8

    I’ll probably end up getting GT7 out of nostalgia but honestly, I do think games like Forza Horizon took the racing torch and ran with it.

    • @ninetendopesaitama2107
      @ninetendopesaitama2107 2 роки тому +3

      Ran thousands of miles ahead.

    • @ValiantInstance
      @ValiantInstance 2 роки тому +2

      Not really a game for car enthusiasts though. They give you any vehicle you want almost immediately. In GT you have to earn them, and they take as much time and care with cars that most people can actually afford in real life. It's like the difference between Fifa and Pro Evo, one is for mindless zombies and the other is for people who appreciate a football sim. Well it was until eFootball came out last year!

    • @sleasy01
      @sleasy01 2 роки тому +2

      @@ValiantInstance Then Forza motorsport is more your speed if you want to earn cars.

    • @K.R.X
      @K.R.X 2 роки тому +1

      @@ValiantInstance 1. Forza Motorsport exists
      2. Pes lol. They went downhill ever since 2020.

    • @NetshadeX
      @NetshadeX 2 роки тому +3

      @@ValiantInstance I don’t like arguing against GT games because I have some great memories playing them. I understand what you mean when you say they’re car enthousiast games, and you’re right. The thing is though, that the car physics in the Forza games feel like a generational leap over the GT games. In Forza the car feels like you’re actually controlling an object that’s moving indepently from the camera that follows it. In GT games the cars feel like they’re stuck to the lens of the camera. It gives an impression like the car is on rails. I can’t describe it any better than that. It just feels off somehow. Also the Horizon games give you this sense of freedom where you’re taking these monsters out of their cages. It’s just so much fun blasting across a freeway in Mexico and meeting other players in their personalised cars. I don’t know man. Gran Turismo games just seem to feel like father time has caught up with them.

  • @DuudeWhatDoesMineSay
    @DuudeWhatDoesMineSay 2 роки тому +16

    Too bad about the 'Online Only' part. I can't support a game like that.

  • @Seabass901
    @Seabass901 2 роки тому +25

    I had no idea this was online only. I was really excited to play this but now I don't know if I'm going to buy it. I'd say that's a pretty large black mark.

    • @AA-vf9jb
      @AA-vf9jb 2 роки тому +2

      Apparently, except for Arcade mode, every part of the game has access to the save data. They want to prevent cheaters from manipulating those files offline.

    • @mikem2253
      @mikem2253 2 роки тому +4

      @@AA-vf9jb How do you manipulate files on a console? The point of a console is to not allow users to edit core game data at any level.

    • @nathanael3949
      @nathanael3949 2 роки тому

      @@mikem2253 Exatamente Muita Hipocrisia da Sony 👏👏👏

    • @AA-vf9jb
      @AA-vf9jb 2 роки тому

      @@mikem2253 You underestimate the tenacity of cheaters! On PS4, you can transfer save files to USB and edit using tools sold on the Internet. Not sure about Ps5 save files yet but when thousands of dollars of esports prize money is at stake, I can imagine why they opted for this

    • @mikem2253
      @mikem2253 2 роки тому +3

      @@AA-vf9jb But if you are playing single player, why is there a requirement for online?

  • @rexthesheep
    @rexthesheep 2 роки тому +4

    Been eagerly awaiting this video! I wanted to wait until I got some time to watch it on my 1440p PC monitor so I could see the detail up close. Definitely worth the effort! 😁
    Gosh this game looks like everything I need right now! - Always online is a serious problem though, especially since our home internet is particularly unreliable. I have no interest in playing these games online with other players so it's just not worth the limitation. Maybe I'll wait a bit to pick this up.

  • @REDSIX
    @REDSIX 2 роки тому +3

    Driveclub still has the best rain on windshield effect

  • @Krypterium
    @Krypterium 2 роки тому +3

    i really like how GT7 (GT generally) looks more realistic than FM , FM has best graphics when it comes to Tracks and Effects and better performance overall but i really liKE GT much more and its gameplay is better although im an Xbox Fan

  • @Dragon969Reviews
    @Dragon969Reviews 2 роки тому +22

    I'd buy it if it wasn't online only, same reason I didn't buy GT Sport, having to be always online for a single player mode is never acceptable.

    • @zbosh
      @zbosh 2 роки тому +1

      Lol do you not have internet or something

    • @pretentiouscameron7815
      @pretentiouscameron7815 2 роки тому

      @@zbosh Thats what I love about the people bitching about always online. They're all bitching on Twitter and UA-cam. So they must have enough connection to play the game lmao

    • @TheCreepyArchives
      @TheCreepyArchives 2 роки тому

      You live in a 3rd world country bro?

    • @dankswank9088
      @dankswank9088 2 роки тому +1

      @@pretentiouscameron7815 Just because you are technically capable of connecting to the internet doesn't justify a company needlessly forcing you to do so in order to enjoy a videogame, especially considering that the game is forever held hostage by both the stability of a player's internet connection as well as the inevitable mortality of the servers. You're comment is literally the "you criticize society and yet you participate in it" meme.

  • @Infi1337
    @Infi1337 2 роки тому

    I only play on the PC Plattform but im stilling watching this, great video.

  • @Salty.Peasants
    @Salty.Peasants 2 роки тому +21

    Nice, but hard pass! I don't buy things I don't own and can't use at my discretion.

  • @millrrs
    @millrrs 2 роки тому +8

    Damn John, busy week for you my friend. Good work as usual and stay RETRO.

  • @toddgrant6133
    @toddgrant6133 2 роки тому +15

    Thanks for the DRM reminder, not gonna get bully by this price control online only renting business model.

    • @toddgrant6133
      @toddgrant6133 2 роки тому +5

      According to Gran Turismo Sport Stats, with the total of 15,547,200 players in GT Sport, 84% had finished 0 Races in Sport mode, that's 13,044,800 of us never played any online Sport Races ever since GT Sports's release.

  • @mantis1412
    @mantis1412 2 роки тому +8

    One thing I found jarring was the lack of dust and debris being kicked up.The driver in the video went on a notable excursion at 29.28 and there appeared to be nothing.

    • @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe
      @JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe 2 роки тому +1

      That's playstation quality right there. That will be 70 dollars please. What a joke!! DO NOT BUY!

  • @herbalterrorist420
    @herbalterrorist420 2 роки тому +26

    I’m gonna pass just on the fact it’s “always online” when/if they change this and I can preferably buy a version of the game on disc that doesn’t need updating to play offline il buy it.

    • @garrythornhill2323
      @garrythornhill2323 2 роки тому +4

      I don't get this replay. You don't like being online at all? You afraid of Sony spying on you? You in the country were online is not available? Im not trying to be mean or disrespect you. I'm just curious. I play many single player games but I don't care if it was always online. I can see if you live in harsh environment weather and always lose online connection.

    • @Iceman99393
      @Iceman99393 2 роки тому +6

      @@garrythornhill2323 I’d imagine a game with deep single player content should not require an online persistent connection. It’s dumb for sure.

    • @joker927
      @joker927 2 роки тому +9

      @@garrythornhill2323 Wifi goes out, can't play. ISP goes out, can't play. Sony servers go out, can't play. In 20 years your kid wants to play the console and disc you bought and saved, can't play. You are paying full price to buy a rental disk. It's both the practical risks as I mentioned but also the principle that you can't ever enjoy your entertainment purchase unless multiple other companies networks beyond your control are all in working order.

    • @lesuardeder9604
      @lesuardeder9604 2 роки тому +7

      @@garrythornhill2323 Some people like owning their games.

    • @lordspalse0062
      @lordspalse0062 2 роки тому +4

      @@joker927 I recalled playing GT sport for over 12 hours and couldn't save the game because of an unexpected outage. 12 hours labor just wasted over a pathetic drm feature.

  • @DaYoda191
    @DaYoda191 2 роки тому +2

    I don't think the environments lack detail, they are just very clean. Which is more of asthetic choice than anything. It could look more "real" but I think that would make the environment look a bit dirty. And that's just not what GT is about.

  • @gondalasatvarsh5892
    @gondalasatvarsh5892 2 роки тому +4

    Why are people worried about 400 cars lmao, I'll always take each car being highly detailed over 800 cars that are not on the same level of quality

    • @macsmith2013
      @macsmith2013 2 роки тому

      Well, I guess 40 of those cars will be Skylines and GT-Rs, either of which I don't care for too much.

    • @gondalasatvarsh5892
      @gondalasatvarsh5892 2 роки тому

      @@macsmith2013 The game is literally called GT7 what did you expect lol, but looking at the list. I think they covered a wide variety of cars including some amazing concept supercars too

  • @anasshahid224
    @anasshahid224 Рік тому +3

    Gran Tursimo 7 is absolutely stunning on PS5 👏👏👏👏

    • @rileyvosper411
      @rileyvosper411 Рік тому

      True, would be even better with ray tracing. Sucks that it’s PlayStation exclusive because I only have a ps4 that isn’t worth getting gt7 on

    • @Francesco__Ci
      @Francesco__Ci Рік тому

      If you can still play on consoles with frame drops in 2024, you are legendary adventurers.

  • @LeoLeeGaming
    @LeoLeeGaming 2 роки тому

    I'll never forget booting up the first Gran Turismo. Was such a great game.
    Side note: this is your typical DF analysis. Still wondering why you didn't do this for Forbidden West.

  • @Sr.D
    @Sr.D 2 роки тому +4

    Wait, so even if you're not interested in online gameplay, only the classic campaign you're fucked up if you don't have connection and nobody it's complaining?!?! Wtf?!?!

  • @energetic0oak329
    @energetic0oak329 2 роки тому +10

    To be honest i think that after forza horizon 5 launch, racing games have a new level for graphics, but it don't seem that gran turismo 7 even in next gen console have reached it.

    • @andrelafayette6724
      @andrelafayette6724 2 роки тому +1

      Agreed, I'm also seeing some graphical pop-in. Idk if I missed that in this video, but it was disappointing to see. That being said, the level of photorealism in the photo mode is INCREDIBLE.

  • @totty2524
    @totty2524 2 роки тому

    Man, I can't wait for John's GT retrospective video he's been cooking!

  • @qbaseden
    @qbaseden 2 роки тому +20

    I loved it when at 19:20 a picture of a race track pops up and I'm like, "m'kay these graphics don't look so good, actually"...until a few seconds later the description reads "actual photograph". We've come a long way.