the reason why this is so OP is because jans are already outpowering every unit early game, when you fast fortress what you are essentially doing is firstly making jans into absolute destroyers, ensuring enemy disturbance of eco and secondly ensuring your age advantage meaning that even if the enemy was to go up to the fortress age, they wouldnt be able to get their upgrades in time. OTTO FF IS LITERALLY AS OP AS CRUISSAIRES IF PLAYED CORRECTLY!
Hey SamuraiRevolution. I played yesterday against someone who used this strategy. Thank God i had seen the Video and knew what was coming. I played aztecs and used a variant of the aztecs turtle strategy to counter it. It worked out excellently.
Ever since you launched this video, I have been facing Ottoman players doing this strategy non-stop. They even copied the Mamelukes. I finally figured out how to beat them, but it was a pain. Also, I could only do it as the French and with the sacrifice of my first town center.
Ottomans best faction, mained since the game first came out. My only real good match was jan rushing someone in age 2 on a small map. (I'm by no means a pro player.)
Tbh your opponent's micro was really poor, but strategy is still solid! Guess it could be beaten using china with 5 meteor hammer ship and a lot of arquebusier. Also I'd like to mention recent tabben vs kynesie gameplay with same civs, but when BOTH players are pros.
The map choice, civ, deck, and rank all have to do with it. He was not at a good start being against otto’s on Deccan, his game knowledge was probably not high enough to know how to counter, and the China civ itself is not easy to learn. People either suck or are ungodly good with them. Just remember that. I recommend watching pros play your best civ, for they not only have good strats, but face players with a fierce ranking. So in other words, it gives you a more realistic approach of what might happen if you face someone who’s skilled. You take this same strat and have him vs a high ranked Aztec player on say Yucatán, totally different outcome. Still doable though.
@@fbi6555 True, u can always expect many Jans when u play against ottos so 9 chu ko nus shipment is essential, plus 3 from summer palace plus three more trained from war academy would have annihilated those jans and u could use step riders to flank those cannons. Once you stop the initial push, you're pretty much ahead bc ottos vills train very slowly and u can use quiang pikemen to siege those tps.
If I were in China's shoes, I'd probably counter raid with the Riders, given you went all in aggro with no walls back home. Get some Meteor Hammers out someway to take care of the artillery, and a defensive fort from Russia so Mams aren't an issue. Granted, that's with the psychic powers to know exactly what you're planning, but it's a counter nonetheless. More realistically, I probably would've gotten a Castle up ASAP and spammed Flamethrowers, noticing you had way too many Jannies to *not* have a barracks and therefore no cav except the 4 Huss. Definitely somethig to keep an eye out for and anticipate a counter…in the wise words of Napoleon, "never tell the enemy your secrets" ;)
Brutal rec, I'm curious what you think of using some wood to grab millet system fairly early? It's effectively 200 wood to get -5 seconds to villager spawn time.
Ha ya, I did the same thing.. named all my decks random names to make peaking harder. Just came back from a year or so break and now I’m some what lost w my decks lol
Awesome strat! My only question is how would you defend from an age 2 rush? Seems like there's a few minutes between age 2>3 that would make it very vulnerable to an early rush.
@@hckr_-gh7se Against an ottoman FF on deccan, you can FF yourself imo since you start with extra crates on the map. Walling the choke points will also buy you some time. If you are playing as a civ that also has a 2 falc shipment, send then and try to use good cannon micro to snipe the otto falcs without losing yours. Another option is to try to snipe the falcs with cav. Dragoons have multipliers against artillery. You can often get kill them with minimal losses. After the falcs are down the ottoman army is pure jan which is not very good. If you can't pick the falcs off, then wait until the ottomans are in your town and try to get a good unit pop, i.e. send in your army at the same time as a unit shipment is arriving and also send minute men/sentries. China's big mistake here was sending his army in small batches and wasting them, and also not having cav/arty. He also did not eco well early on as you can see from his very low score the whole game.
My first card in age 3 is allways spahi because u not must do barrack and this will be faster and more powerfull, age 2 units vs spahi are turbo-easy for them.
Nice video! Also why you do you never use ottoman hussars they do splash damage when there at there royal guard level (Gardener) might wanna check it out!
@@SamuraiRevolution yep hopefully u can make a video or strat where u use them or just use them in a ottoman video would be nice to test if their realy that strong
@@TheJamieGambino nwhen i played ottomans i rememberd they do splash damaged when there royal guard (Talking about hussasr btw) or i might be wrong idk i did not played it in ages but you can try it out!
Great vids man, been benching quite a few. 1 Question tho, Im a new player, picked it up this summer sale. Is there any good or proper guides (pref in video format). On build orders and so forth, I play Japan if that narrows anything down. Been trying myself but watching these vids I feel like im slacking
I have the game on my pc (installed with the 3 cds from the original release) but i cannot play online as my game version is not valid.. Any ideas? Cool vid btw
@@ImInfenix thanks the update indeed worked (after i run the game as admin) By the way, do you have any idea on where can i find the two dlcs ? I own the original release (3 cds) and cannot find the dlcs (besides the complete collection version of course)
@@s.m.9285 i've no idea bout it, i bought them as cd years ago i don't know if they exist apart of it. But if u wait u can have it for cheap, like i got another version a month ago for 9.24 euros on humble bundle, that's cheaper than one of the dlcs as cd when i bought them ^^
I was considering picking this up and going on esco patch... how active is it exactly. I used to do silly strats all the time... ooo 10 years ago. On deck names? Super fun fun. Unfortunately in that case the cards being native focused gives it away.
Anexikhoz true... especially on Deccan their age Up could be just as fast, but eco would be lacking wouldn't it? Normally Dutch has a strong eco, but if you tried to force a fast fortress to keep up with this Otto FF, wouldn't you sacrifice settler production?
Hey do you know what to do for the Initialization Failed? I have been wanting to get back into the game but this error keeps appearing. If anyone knows please reply.
Hey! You will need to research "Mass Cavalry" at the Church, and also ship the shipments "Riding School" and "Thoroughbreds." ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/French_Home_City_Cards
I love that you keep the AOE alive. I played AOE 2 and 3 in college and I miss playing it .
Thank you!! Come back!
I just started again 2 weeks ago and I had a blast! This game aged so well. I hope AoE 4 will be good!
@@nickvanhorebeek2332 agreed! You van join our discord if you need more guys your level to play with!
@@SamuraiRevolution That would be great, thank you very much!
@@SamuraiRevolution can*, and nice video! its been rare to see such a strategy game alive again! as aoe 3 thanks bro
you should place a mosque instead of second house at the start. It will help you get more shipments.
Thanks for the tip!!
This is my favorite channel on youtube
same
Thank you!!
Thanks!!
Devlet - i Aliyeyy - i Osmaniye (Osmanish Turkish)
Osmanlı imparatorluğu (Turkish)
Greetings from east Türkistan (in China)
Türkiyeden selamlar kardeşim, Ottoman Turkish olacak kardeş
@@erenozklnc9427 Ottoman Turks olacak, Turkish ; Turkiye Cumhuriyeti vatandaslarina deniliyor.
Honestly, Deccan makes this strat even more OP than it already is
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What's your view on this start / rush.. instead of FF
the reason why this is so OP is because jans are already outpowering every unit early game, when you fast fortress what you are essentially doing is firstly making jans into absolute destroyers, ensuring enemy disturbance of eco and secondly ensuring your age advantage meaning that even if the enemy was to go up to the fortress age, they wouldnt be able to get their upgrades in time. OTTO FF IS LITERALLY AS OP AS CRUISSAIRES IF PLAYED CORRECTLY!
Yeah buddy!
I'm loving these AoE3 videos! Keep it up, man.
Thanks man!
Hey SamuraiRevolution. I played yesterday against someone who used this strategy. Thank God i had seen the Video and knew what was coming. I played aztecs and used a variant of the aztecs turtle strategy to counter it. It worked out excellently.
Great vid Sam, I do this a lot with Otto, yep, it's broken. Jan/falc early fortress is unstoppable.
Thanks man! Very OP!
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Good videos man ! Keep doing it :p, love you !!
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Normal voice: “ok let’s see here”
Lol
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What's your view on this start / rush.. instead of FF
Love your video’s! Especially the 10 types of players and what your civ says about you. Keep up the good work!
Thank you!!
Ever since you launched this video, I have been facing Ottoman players doing this strategy non-stop.
They even copied the Mamelukes.
I finally figured out how to beat them, but it was a pain. Also, I could only do it as the French and with the sacrifice of my first town center.
Oh, and it wasn't on Deccan. Am I the only player that hates Deccan?
Can't believe I stumbled on these vids! Great content man!
Thank you and welcome!
Ottomans best faction, mained since the game first came out. My only real good match was jan rushing someone in age 2 on a small map. (I'm by no means a pro player.)
They are so good!
The Otto's were Nerfed because they were OP in the beginning. Virtually everyone runs with the Abus Gun, especially in team battles.
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What's your view on this start / rush.. instead of FF
An early mosque and a couple of the researches that increase pop spawning rate are much needed
Another great video! Used to rush abus+jans but i gotta try your play out next time i play as otto
evet, hadi bakalım, hazır, oduncu, avcı, yapı ustası,selam, doğru, tamam olur, tamam, emrin,satıcı, hucum, emrin. (turkish words in the game)
Dumb civ dumb empire dumb language lol
@@firestyle3365 dumb comment
I miss playing this so much.
Probably what I'd do to beat this is a fast Sioux rush with Boe and Axe rider to hit the Eco hard early, take down trade posts
Tbh your opponent's micro was really poor, but strategy is still solid! Guess it could be beaten using china with 5 meteor hammer ship and a lot of arquebusier. Also I'd like to mention recent tabben vs kynesie gameplay with same civs, but when BOTH players are pros.
great vid i love the ottomans, and ofc you should add that other match
it took me 10 mins to recognise that it has a facecam
I tried this so damn often and did everything same but it never worked. Might only work against noobs
The map choice, civ, deck, and rank all have to do with it. He was not at a good start being against otto’s on Deccan, his game knowledge was probably not high enough to know how to counter, and the China civ itself is not easy to learn. People either suck or are ungodly good with them. Just remember that. I recommend watching pros play your best civ, for they not only have good strats, but face players with a fierce ranking. So in other words, it gives you a more realistic approach of what might happen if you face someone who’s skilled. You take this same strat and have him vs a high ranked Aztec player on say Yucatán, totally different outcome. Still doable though.
@@fbi6555 True, u can always expect many Jans when u play against ottos so 9 chu ko nus shipment is essential, plus 3 from summer palace plus three more trained from war academy would have annihilated those jans and u could use step riders to flank those cannons. Once you stop the initial push, you're pretty much ahead bc ottos vills train very slowly and u can use quiang pikemen to siege those tps.
good video dude ur playing insane on ottoman xD
Thanks man!
Ahh the Deccan. You should make a tribute video to this most favorite of maps 👀
What country and strategy is your favorite, mine is a German cavalry rush.
British is my favorite civ! German cav is fun too!
I love the otts some much haha 😹 well played great vid
Thanks man!
If I were in China's shoes, I'd probably counter raid with the Riders, given you went all in aggro with no walls back home. Get some Meteor Hammers out someway to take care of the artillery, and a defensive fort from Russia so Mams aren't an issue.
Granted, that's with the psychic powers to know exactly what you're planning, but it's a counter nonetheless.
More realistically, I probably would've gotten a Castle up ASAP and spammed Flamethrowers, noticing you had way too many Jannies to *not* have a barracks and therefore no cav except the 4 Huss.
Definitely somethig to keep an eye out for and anticipate a counter…in the wise words of Napoleon, "never tell the enemy your secrets" ;)
Good notes!
I think rushing is my favorite style.
Sadly my friend prefer treaty mode.
I’ve mained Ottomans since the game came out
Brutal rec, I'm curious what you think of using some wood to grab millet system fairly early? It's effectively 200 wood to get -5 seconds to villager spawn time.
I think it depends on the game, but I would rather spend that on a trade post.
Ha ya, I did the same thing.. named all my decks random names to make peaking harder. Just came back from a year or so break and now I’m some what lost w my decks lol
Awesome strat! My only question is how would you defend from an age 2 rush? Seems like there's a few minutes between age 2>3 that would make it very vulnerable to an early rush.
Call in minute men and have walls outposts set up just defense set up
Love your videos bro keep gong
Thank you Filip!
this is a standard ottoman ff. it was only op here because blue was a massive noob
genuine question because i am also a noob, how would you counter that?
@@hckr_-gh7se Against an ottoman FF on deccan, you can FF yourself imo since you start with extra crates on the map. Walling the choke points will also buy you some time. If you are playing as a civ that also has a 2 falc shipment, send then and try to use good cannon micro to snipe the otto falcs without losing yours. Another option is to try to snipe the falcs with cav. Dragoons have multipliers against artillery. You can often get kill them with minimal losses. After the falcs are down the ottoman army is pure jan which is not very good. If you can't pick the falcs off, then wait until the ottomans are in your town and try to get a good unit pop, i.e. send in your army at the same time as a unit shipment is arriving and also send minute men/sentries. China's big mistake here was sending his army in small batches and wasting them, and also not having cav/arty. He also did not eco well early on as you can see from his very low score the whole game.
Instead of making 2 houses at the start, ottomans should make 1 house and 1 mosque (which is half a tp) or a market and buy 100 wood for a mosque.
@dansil92 por que no los dos? make market and buy 100 wood for mosque. I think Kaiserklein was saying its half a tp, but maybe it got buffed on EP
That was lit! what a gg!
GG
Can someone explain to me why he waited to fortress when he just attacked with forces he could build in second age? He didn't even upgrade them
Its for the home city cards
You could to do a market so you will be able to do 5 in 5 Jan
I don’t see you upgrade villager produce speed from mosque, would you say it’s pointless in this strat?
Doesn't the Jan/Abus rush beat this strategy though? Wouldn't you have to NOT get rushed for this to work? (In a 1v1 scenario)
lol russia attack in 4:40-5:05 minutes
russia die for this strat
jan abus rush better then ff
Владимир Путин What do you think is the BEST, fastest AND strongest rush in the game?
@@waltz9230 lol iroquis
Op, sorpresive, awesome, crazy. What a great game man! China had no chance ever since the beginning.
So good man!
My first card in age 3 is allways spahi because u not must do barrack and this will be faster and more powerfull, age 2 units vs spahi are turbo-easy for them.
Good job
Nice video! Also why you do you never use ottoman hussars they do splash damage when there at there royal guard level (Gardener) might wanna check it out!
What?? No way??
@@SamuraiRevolution yep hopefully u can make a video or strat where u use them or just use them in a ottoman video would be nice to test if their realy that strong
You might be confused with spahi. They re totally different from hussars.
@@TheJamieGambino nwhen i played ottomans i rememberd they do splash damaged when there royal guard (Talking about hussasr btw) or i might be wrong idk i did not played it in ages but you can try it out!
@dansil92 what realy i didnt press anything manualy but they did do splash damage if i remeber correctly could u guys just check in game
Great vids man, been benching quite a few. 1 Question tho, Im a new player, picked it up this summer sale.
Is there any good or proper guides (pref in video format). On build orders and so forth, I play Japan if that narrows anything down.
Been trying myself but watching these vids I feel like im slacking
Thanks man! Here is my japan playlist. There are some strategies on there! ua-cam.com/play/PL8WjIHqMQ4VHBg3U6f0yoX0bkb2PEMLLJ.html
You can also join the discord for support!
Watching all of your gameplay now, cuz bought a new PC and a new router and multiplayer doesn't work :(
There are some solutions on the internet, you just have to search for the error massage
You need to check your firwall, and serch the error messege on the internet usally related to a closed port
use windscribe free vpn it works perfectly
he recommended it himself i seen his video and started playing AOE 3 myself now
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I have the game on my pc (installed with the 3 cds from the original release) but i cannot play online as my game version is not valid.. Any ideas?
Cool vid btw
Have you updated ur game? Need to do it from options and then u should be able to connect to eso
@@ImInfenix I haven't but I'll try to hope it will work
@@s.m.9285 If not look on internet what is the meaning of the exact error message
@@ImInfenix thanks the update indeed worked (after i run the game as admin) By the way, do you have any idea on where can i find the two dlcs ? I own the original release (3 cds) and cannot find the dlcs (besides the complete collection version of course)
@@s.m.9285 i've no idea bout it, i bought them as cd years ago i don't know if they exist apart of it. But if u wait u can have it for cheap, like i got another version a month ago for 9.24 euros on humble bundle, that's cheaper than one of the dlcs as cd when i bought them ^^
What is the mod?
Are you playing at steam ? Why they are not showing me the online games
Yes! What does it say?
I was considering picking this up and going on esco patch... how active is it exactly. I used to do silly strats all the time... ooo 10 years ago. On deck names? Super fun fun. Unfortunately in that case the cards being native focused gives it away.
On regular Asian dynasties there are around 500-1500 online at a given time
So you aren’t using the patch? Interesting. Okay.
@@Peachrocks5 Nope! Most people don't use it, so I just play without it
Is there any civ that can deal with this strategy? Especially on Deccan?
the X142311 i could think of dutch FFing and then training skirms w ruyters.
Anexikhoz true... especially on Deccan their age Up could be just as fast, but eco would be lacking wouldn't it? Normally Dutch has a strong eco, but if you tried to force a fast fortress to keep up with this Otto FF, wouldn't you sacrifice settler production?
Russia with strelets making and cav shipments for falconnets holds it imo
Hey do you know what to do for the Initialization Failed? I have been wanting to get back into the game but this error keeps appearing. If anyone knows please reply.
download windscribe and only use it for Aoe III
please post the other video!!
Maybe you can exchange your explorer name a Fahraddin Pasha? He is a very important general for ottoman nation
What is your setting config?
All max settings! My PC specs are in the description
@@SamuraiRevolution Thanks!
Perfect.
Does anyone how to train the op horses instantly in France
Hey! You will need to research "Mass Cavalry" at the Church, and also ship the shipments "Riding School" and "Thoroughbreds." ageofempires.fandom.com/wiki/French_Home_City_Cards
I name most of my decks like the most random crap like Yee haw and I don’t know what I’m doing
Ottoman the Best for me!!!
Reason why I dont fight against Otto 1v1 anymore !
Next time with market place and you can actually build enough units to beat a good player.
Awww thanks!
@@SamuraiRevolution May have sounded a little rude but the strategy actually was pretty cool
@@goldminer754 no worries man, thanks for the feedback and input!
You can do this in the second age , just build 2 barracks and attack...easy
I reckon Dutch or French could counter it, op strategy against dlc nations
Ez for maderate try for expert or minimum Hard + 100% handi
the otto are to OP in definitive edition i hope they will balance the civ better..........
OP!
All that without a mosque
Deccan OP
culv, skirm nd and some outposts from a dutch turtle would probs beet it
Show video where you rekt that boi!!
Huzzahs!
Iroquois rush is better :D
They're honestly both so good it doesent even matter (unless you're playing against one of them)
@@SamuraiRevolution you shoud play vs Iroquois with Ottoman fast fortress!
Russia laughing in the corner
Lol
OP, plz nerf
bad build....
bummer...
Nice video, but Deccan is not the best choice to present a regular ff due to its huge starting rrs