Final Fantasy 15 story theory: Blind Ignis, Cors death and Gladiolus’ trip to Hel
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- Опубліковано 20 жов 2024
- Final Fantasy 15 story theory incoming! Tinfoil hat, ENGAGED! So running with the crazy title of Blind Ignis, Cors death and Gladiolus’ trip to Hel, its bold, its out there but its fun. Exploring a centuries old norse mythology tale between the sons of Odin: Vidar, Vali, Hodr, Balder and Hermod and how they might just connect to the ffxv brotherhood.
With Ardyn links to Loki, Bahamut, the astrals, Tiatmat and/or Nidhogg.
A possible stab at what is causing the chapter feud in the ff15 TGS trailer.
A few more bits on chaos that also tie really nicely into the four fiends idea.
Kingslgaive movie spoiler is initiated so for anyone who hasn't seen the film. Don't do it! :P
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Dude, Blind is in every final fantasy. Just give the man some eyedrops~
incurably blind... as in BLIND blind.. because plot
tell that to my 12 year old self trying to unstone the twins in US Final Fantasy II :(
Just give them a soft.
Give Aeris a phoenix down!
Blindness is temporary though, like throwing sand in your eyes. Ignis lost his sight outright. :(
And people still say that under Tabata the story isn't deep any more! >Insert Tidus' laugh here
tabby is an epic director and has balls of steel! i mean who even dares to kill all of his characters in one go?
im just afraid of xv's story falling into the problems final fantasy xiii, type-0 and many of the recent kingdom hearts have had. convoluted story, not as epic as it should have been and having boring characters
because the trailers focus so much more on the traveling, the combat and the friendship moments and less on the story most likely for spoiler reasons, it did give me the feeling that the game would not have a deep story
>insert Kefkas laugh here
@@sakonan4883 you do realize kh is over a decade old right? 👀
so? lol
decades old games have had better stories than XV
also, KH is not a decade old lmao
the last numbered title was in 2006, but the series had many games afterwards
wow, i cant believe im in an old ass video after commenting how i was hoping XV didnt fall into the problems i mentioned, only for it to have exactly did lmao
I also want to point out the influences from Lord of the Rings. Aragorn is a descendant from a line of Kings since the first age, when the first men lived in Numenor. The northern island (shaped like a star like Lucis is) met it's downfall when Sauron, once a fair high elf, betrayed and tricked the first men. just like what Ardyn is doing especially in Kingsglaive. Aragorn is given Narsil, the blade that is reforged which Ilsildur used to slay Sauron in the 2nd age. Cor Leonis is guiding the group like Gandalf so that Aragorn will meet his destiny and face the trials that await him for his rightful place as King in Minas Tirith, the White City (like Insomnia, the city of light). Aragorn being given the blade of the king brought inspiration for Noctis being given the armigers of the kings. Finally, Aragorn has a ring that proves his birthright, just like Noctis bearing the ring of the Lucii. The ring of the Lucii has a similar presence that The One Ring has, but is not at all an omen of destruction. both are rings of power but the ring of the lucii gives power to the rightful king it chooses. both rings have a consciousness and choose their owners. Have fun, guys! Oh, and Aragorn's romance with Arwyn who bore the gift of foresight, much like an Oracle, which is Luna.
DarkSamuraiX1989 Norse mythology all over again.
I did a search regarding the significance of 7 swords and the first result were the depiction of 7 swords in tarot card. It meant betrayal and deception.
Also, the "guy" on the Cosmogeny book cover is in the Genesis picture! This confirms that "guy" on the book is most definitely a summon! and it's most probably Ifrit because almost all of the revealed summons are there. Ramuh, Shiva, Titan on the right. That leaves Ifrit and Leviathan on the left.
Perhaps there's something that makes Ifrit play such an important role. Maybe he's the only summon that betrayed the Lucii or perhaps he's the only summon who's aware of what the Lucii are up to.
Here's a follow up to your comment about Noctis possibly being Chaos.
Then look at Somnus and Omnis Lacrima's lyrics. Prepare to be mindblown.
Chaos gave the Crystal to the King, perhaps after making a pact. What is this pact about? Probably him being reborn through one of the heirs in exchange for the "True King's" power. And when Chaos is reborn it'll be the Apocalypse, then the Dawn of a new world. That's why the King and Oracle should stand together always, so Chaos can be kept at bay. They want Chaos, the God, to sleep forever.
Ardyn wants Noct to 'awaken as the True King by claiming the Crystal. Ardyn wants to kill Chaos, the Darkness. And his actions might have terrible repercussions.
Nothing is either good or bad, thinking it makes it so.
Luna is trying to stop Chaos Awakening --> meddles with Ardyn's plan--> he gets pissed and slaps her.
But what does she mean by helping Noctis fulfill his destiny? Did she misunderstand his fate. She's quite obsessed over the "light" and maybe doesn't realize the King of Light arrives after the Apocalypse brought by Chaos.
You're theory very close and I think it might be true story
roa ak Thanks! I'm also wondering if any of the other Kings and Queens had the potential to be Chaos too. Because they had shreds of his powers in their blood, but since Noctis is going around gathering Astrals, claiming the Crystal, building up Chaos's strength inside him, he'll be Chaos.
wow, i've never.. i mean... well... no spoilers here..
very true.
One problem with Cor being dead is that Talcott said he was alive with the hunters in the timeskip
Welp... there goes his theory
theres still possible ways to twist it and make it seem like hes alive when hes not. like, maybe someone having a type of power that can transform him.
Suburbanmonsterez Keep in mind this video came out before the game came out.
Gotta say, a lot of your predictions were spot-on, especially since this was uploaded 2 months before FF15 was released. The funny thing is, even though Cor doesn't die, Gladiolus still leaves the team to do a solo mission (which you predicted). We won't know what that mission was until the DLC comes out, but I'm curious what it's about, besides him fighting Gilgamesh, especially since Cor didn't die, so he goes it alone for another reason.
What if Ignis put on the Ring of the Lucii and sacrificed his eyes to save Noctis and his friends during a point when Noct gets hurt.
Zaku Guriin Your theory actually came true in Episode Ignis.
Whoa, MIND BLOWN!
Verum Rex
...these theories sound so true that I don't know if I should watch anymore...I will though :D
Three videos in one day present hot damn!
Peasant not present God damn auto correct
You've inspired me to read up on Norse Mythology recently and so I read about a lot of this in advance, still blown away that you were able to piece it together though and connect everything. If the story has proper pacing and can pull at the heart strings it could be one of the best FF stories ever.
Definitly! Theres a reason the norse tales have lasted as long as they have and are still so highly regarded. FF + the greatest storytelling mythos in history. Surely its a recipe for sucess if as you say, they get the pacing right.
Thing is I wonder how many people will even care for the story. To me story is the most imporant aspect (if these vids didnt give that away hehe) but I think most of the new gen gamers playing this as there first ff will be far more combat focused.
Not to say the combat isnt good it is, but I think FFXV could very much have its story and the intricacy square have gone to with it underaprecciated by the majority :)
Yeah I agree I love stories first and foremost in a game. The mechanics obviously have to be good but story trumps all in my book. Some games that are more narrative focused are often called "interactive movies" in a bad way but hey screw those people lol
Another OUTSTANDING theory video. I have no idea how you connect everything so well and then explain and present it quite clearly. So fun watching these
I have no idea either XD
I used to honestly be TERRIBLE at picking out easter eggs and references from games/movies. Now even when I watched kingsglaive, I picked out multiple times where Nyx statues were being used to reference the greek godess.
I hope this new found power isnt only on temporary loan from the king :P
Final Fantasy Peasant haha...I hope I am worthy of that power someday. I'm horrible at reading between the lines and noticing these things. I don't know why because I'm really analytical and observant when it comes to other things.
I just hope they don't have bleeding dying chocobos
RIP Chichiri :,(
+Final Fantasy Peasant RIP Izana
RIP Boco/Boko
they do XD
I'm gonna need a track list for all the tunes in this video man.
Fascinating stuff Peasant, this is great work. Keep it up dude.
When you said "Nothing is either good or bad" I rememberer that William Shakespeare's quote from that old FFVersusXIII trailer: "There is nothing either good or bad but thinking makes it so" ;)
okay so obviously this video was released after the game was so things are gonna change because we've played the game and not all details were not available to you that are now, and also with the new DLC episodes of the characters coming out but seriously, alot of this is bang on accurate and it's awesome how you have adapted your research into the game, instant subscribe this is great stuff
mmmmm juicy theories! My sweet nectar :P Another excellent video Pez, I can see your train of thought and you've got me sold on a lot of your stuff. I'm glad you mentioned about Square adapting as they please because it's easy to fall into thinking they will follow mythology word for word
yeah a lot of people like to pull me up on points like that.
'That wasn't in ORIGINAL norse!'
'That character also did X!'
'Regis doesn't have an eye missing like odin!'
lmao I've seen all kinds of comments. I dont think people realise just how liberally and happily square will pick points and go wild with them. Theres zero rules and I can see what square have been looking at when making this game. I swear im following their footsteps around the internet :P
Following in Squares trail, feel like a detective now :P
Seriously though, like you said I can already tell this game is going to be quality it just reeks of it! #2moremonths
Hey peasant loved the videos as usual. Hey what's the name of the remix song from FFXIII-2 you play at the end? That beat is catchy.
The fact that he has a blind-stick at 9:10 kinda also indicates he's blind :)
what's that lit remix of Somnus at the beginning.
I just like the idea of how Luna and Selene are interchangeable names for the Moon. ;D
what is the second outro song? like not the one you linked, but the really chill sounding one that plays next on the blue page with links to Patreon and your other videos?
Spoiler for FFXIV:
Y'shtola is made blind from her time in the Lifestream, so Ignis isn't the first.
I was just about to write that XD
I also forgot to mention, Matoya in Final Fantasy was blind.
FF Dimensions spoilers:
Freyr (the old man) is a blind ranger. He's playable but not a main character
Damn i love all of your theories You and the games themselves are single handedly keeping me hype through the wait
I can see it for sure! I think that Tabata even said at one point that he got a lot of the inspiration for the story from Norse mythology. It certainly seems that way!
I'm thinking it a Noctis fail that is the cause for Ignis' blindness. Ignis already recognizes Arden as an enemy before he goes blind, unless Arden has some Aizen-type (bleach reference) master plans and powers, I just can't see Ignis getting tricked by Arden after the realization.
It is funny that this actually happens in the story but not with Ardyn, Cor and Ignis but with Ardyn, Noctis and Prompto only Prompto didn't die.
Nice video! Peasant, where do you think Luna will fit in?
Great video and I hope that's their take. But I get reminded everytime what the scenario writer said :
"When creating FFXV we pondered what universal themes might resonate with all players regardless of their country of origin or their individual preferences and we decided to train the spotlight on the bond between father and son, the bond between friends and the bond between the people of the world. The three pillars of the game. We aren’t doing anything shocking. Instead we crafted a simple standard story to which the living breathing characters add depth and heart"
If by simple standar story they mean this, then what can I say.
This is one hell of a an awesome theories. Peasant I want to tell you how thankful and grateful I am to you for sharing such deep findings and research to us FF15 fans. Since you have linked Ignis to Hodr the blind Son of Odin, I am certain its either Ardyn or Ravus caused him to lose his sights.
I agree, perhaps it was during that scene with them facing off against Ardyn when there was all that fire and volcanic rock around?
Seems like a place Ignis could get his eyes burned at Ardyns hands!
+Final Fantasy Peasant
Eh, that seems like the aftermath of the Titan fight. Not sure if Ardyn is sweeping by to check on the magiteck army getting their butts kicked or what, but I don't see us fighting Ardyn there. Could maybe be a cutscene or something, but I feel like a blinding would take place further in the game than where I'm thinking Titan falls.
I placed my bet on Ardyn since he's capable of doing such despicable act like what he did in Kingsglaive.A friend of mine even made an theory that Ardyn purposely blinded Ignis to fill Noctis with extreme guilt so he will become vulnerable to be infused with chaos.
I must admit I hope that you're at least some what or kinda spot on with these different story arcs in XV since it all sounds so freaking awesome. I also really really wouldn't be to surprised to see if square have used at least some of the elements that you've dug up and researched.
Two years later and I don't think this was the most accurate theory you've made. It was cool to listen to and compare tho!
Peasant, where is the 'Somnus' remix from at the start of the video?
Pretty interesting, I haven't play many of the FF series. The oldest one I played was III on the DS. I think Ignis's blindness alludes to the Gulgans in FFIII who were a group of blind sages. Although they can't see, they are wise and also gift the FF III party spells, which is similar to how Iggy buffs the FFXV party with magic during battles, i.e. libra elemetia and enhancement.
Hi Peasant. I'm watching your theory videos for a while now and they get me so hyped everytime. Thanks.
Now I want to ask you a few question and want to hear what you think about it:
1. Is there a theory about the (sinking) ship in the genesis picture? Or is it maybe related to the ship mentioned at 12:03?
2. Why is Nyx in the Amano Artwork depicted with a Coeurl/Torama sharing the same horn thing? Could it have something to do with the danger he couldn't save his sister from and the horn kept as a memory? Or could it be a glimpse of Ifrits feral/animal form? What do you think?
Artwork: www.finalfantasy.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/Image_Nyx.jpg
Thanks in advance.
Spot on observation Peasant, You just got my sub. Keep up a good work man
I think I agree with the idea of Ardyn being Loki, and that could provide some explanation as to why we heard that heavy sound from him, not only when he stepped on the stairs of the Lucian throne room, but also when he slapped Luna. Maybe he has powers similar to Loki's?
Your videos kick ass! I love how FF games use mythology as a background and XV has to be the most intriguing one so far. Good job!
I'm pretty sure they foreshadowed ignis going blind. There was a conversation between the boy at which ignis states that he prefers to see in clairity. The convo was too long not to be an intentional refrence around chapter 3 or 4 following Ardyn in the regalia.
The exact version at the end of your video. I need that in my life. I subscribed to your channel because you're so awesome. I deserve that beat. I'll probably cry if I don't get that beat. Lol
Here you go buddy :D
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Final Fantasy Peasant dude I already appreciated you because you make awesome videos and your theories are great. You've just bumped your way to my favorite top 3 UA-cam channels! You all my support. All be it not a lot, but I'll like everything I watch from now on.
aww thanks mate :D good to have you on team peasants =)
Awesome Video, love your theories. Keep it up, can`t wait until the game comes out to see the links.
do you have a playlist with all the FF tracks u are playing in youre videos? their awesome!:O need now!:D
+Final Fantasy Peasant did u know the guy in the mech who refers to Cor as "Cor the immortal" , his name is loki * sp* in ffxv. :D
Dude I did not expect to actually have my mind blown with this theory but damn peasant you are good my mind is officially blown
Is it official? Officially oficcial? If so I'm going to need a certifice of mind blowage because blowing the duels mind fully has been a long hard journey :P
Surely theres a bit more I could blow? I think my upcoming ones are really really awesome
+Final Fantasy Peasant I guess I'll have to prepare my brain for that!
Oh, and "Amicitia" means "Friendship"
"To abandon one's friendship" is the exemple phrase given by wikitionary: "Amicitiam alicui renuntiare."
But GREAT video anyway! Great job, man!
Mind blown! Tinfoil hat overkill! And I see a very good chance that all theories and predictions in this video are actually coming true. And what's worse is that with every Peasant FFXV video, my hype for the game increases ^^°
Also, if you keep this up, we'll all know the whole plot and story before the game even releases xD
Question: Where did you get the summons PS4 theme from? I think I heard about it somewhere a while ago, but I just can't remember :(
+Final Fantasy Peasant The guy in 15:17 on the far left with wings is like the one in the Cosmogony book that Noctis is holding.
your videos never seize to amaze, awsome theory video peasant :D
They blinded Ignis, someone get him some Eye Drops!!! MOST EXTREME STATUS!
How about Ignis using the Lucii ring to save Gladio giving in exchange his eyes because of something that Noctis did? (like related to Ardyn and killing Cor) And maybe thats why Gladio is angry and have that new scar (and also feel responsible for both and want to recover Cor from hell + heal Ignis)
Maybe Ignis needed to choose between saving Gladio or Cor as the Lucii likes to make that kind of sacrifices in order to know who is worthy.
oooh now thats a good idea. HOW Ignis becomes blind was an area I wasn't so sure on. To think it might be as part of a deal or if Ignis is forced to make a choice is definitly possible.
I am enjoying your theory videos. I have not taken part in your polls as I watch your videos on PS Vita. I don't think Square would use Loqi as the trigger man and have him behind it directly. I have a more shocking and unsettling theory Luna is going to be the one behind Ignis going blind but been trickd or forced by another character. It is going to be so dark and thrilling that Final Fantasy XV is going to be remember as on of the greatest in history. But afterwards helps the Botherhood because of guilt and a change of heart
How so
Ice can also burn, I believe her brother will trick her into turning on Noct and Ignis will give his sight to protect him and that is why there are fighting on the train
That awkward moment when all those theories had much more depth then the entire game...
In 19:35 the part where ur in wait mode. How do u do it? Which parts/buttons do I press? Does everything stay still and the bar thingy goes up or is frozen along with it?
Seconddream2001 It's in the options, set it to wait mode from acrive or default
This is seriously blowing my mind!! Wonderful x
Present I don't care if your theory is actually right or the exact opposite of what sexually going to happen don't carry your videos are entertaining and they drive the hype train to ludicrous speed! Keep up the great work mana,
Peasants not present goddamnit
+Kaguya chan hahaha God dammit I didn't even catch that fucking how did that even happen! I meant actually! Actually! Odd dammit I meant actually!
Don't worry duel... I can sing a Song About autocorrect that Many already Know...
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Sexual things are going to happen in FFXV!??? I certainly hope so!
+Final Fantasy Peasant I hope not! (unless it's off screen). also God dammit that was probably the worst AutoCorrect has ever been I don't even know how that happened seriously
I love your theories! Great video as always. :)
how did you get that ps4 background ? x)
I swear, if you're wrong (And I don't think you are, I think you've got this right!) .You've got more than enough epic shit to make your own damn game. I love your theories man, thank you for helping keep the hype alive!
That was fantastic, Square, when you watch this, even your mind will be blown
what if pez knows too much and square has to "shut him up" lol better hire some protection pez, cause you're on fire!
It's alright bruh! The flames will be put out by this friendly group of japanese ninjas running over to help me!
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Just want to point out. Another name for "Jormundgandr" is "Midgardsormr", and we have already seen Midgardsormr in one of the trailers as a monster, shooting out of the water
What is that clip at 15:47? Is it something fan-made or otherwise playable?
Its kings tale, lets you play as king regis 30 years before ffxv
Creepy thing is he compares Ardyn to Loki saying he tricks a brother into killing a brother, and he really almost did that in the game. Oh snap!
Astrid B.
oh GOD! now that you mentioned it IT'S SOOOO TRUE!!!! my jaw literally dropped when I read your comment!
Absolutely well done, this earned you a subscribe :)
currently playing final fantasy 6 and i was wondering how you can use the angel wings relic?
Peasant how did you get that theme?
0:37
In Demensions, *spoiler alert* Freyr is blind. He's not a main character but he's playable.
let me just leave a like before watching :D
same
Another fun video man! I love all the norse references even if they aren't in the game I like the little nods.
Still on norse i think that Ardyn might be Ragnarok but not in psychical form like we've seen before in final fantasy but the actual norse meaning of it "fate of the gods" he IS! the "events" leading up to Ragnarok, he is the one pulling and manipulating the narrative he is the one who has potentially got the "fate of the gods" in his hands.
which makes me think he is one of the guardians like Cor and Gentiana but with a Caius twist? unlike Cor who protects the Kings of Chaos and unlike Gentiana who protects the light of Oracles. Ardyn might be sick of this cycle bull shit, he's sick of seeing the people fail and so threw himself in with the Empire to snuff it out. to end the cycles maybe? this way they can have him dabble in all things bad in the game you said he can't be behind the Cor, Ignis and loqi thing, he can't be behind everything maybe not directly but been Ragnarok (the event) he could have easily been the one to place Loqi in command for that purpose. to further set things in motion
Peasant what's the song that starts at 11:03
Cor was a daemon hunter during the 10 years Noct was gone. Interesting topic, but Jared brought it up when he was driving Noct back to Hammerhead.
after finishing the game omg this theory clicks in so many ways ... yeah sure not all points happen but most makes sense
how did you get this backround for your playstation? Have purchased the Luna edition and played the game through. Its great and is fun, but still i am a little bit disappointed with the story, because it had so much potential especially the original concept of FFVS XIII. SO now i see all of your theories for the game, they seem so much thrilling. So thank you very much to cover all this information for us.
Do you think you could link Nyx to one of the sons?
remember there was also a snake near midgar in ff7. the giant one that would attack you when you crossed the desert
i knew ardyn was more than what he seems, when the empire king told him to ' get rid of the demons' in Kingsglaive. No normal person should have that kind of power.
Frig makes a pact with the earth, and everything that could harm Baldur and has them swear not to harm him.
However she skipped the mistletoe, and Loki made a spear of Mistletoe and you know the rest XD
Ardyn gives me the Littlefinger feels. The best tactician.
Crazy theory as usually. Very cool.
love the 14 music, you surely must play but on what server?
i play on moogle =D
Some references were spot on but not the overall story. I wish it was as complex as this, instead is quite straightforwad
WHAT WAS THAT PIXELATED GAME WITH REGID AND A YOUNG NOCTIS
I always thought the 'serpent' was the snake/woman daemon that Noct fights. Gladio mentions that even the King couldn't kill her
Noct kills that deamon in the latest brotherhood episode
hmmmm I think it's name was Merilith to be honest, 1 of the daemons along with Lich,Kraken,and Tiamat > just check out the google
Well the boss who referred to Cor as the immortal is called Loqi
Ignis -> hard of sight going blind -> thus why he can't drive at night?
Cameron Youngs he can see fine without glasses just he likes things to be crystal clear.
one small error ignis is latin for fire
well done bro proud of ya!!
If Ignis gets blind...who's going to cook for the party?
You added Daredevil XD And loved the vid! Keep it up!
haha yeah hope you don't mind. I just really loved that comment of Ignis being a new FF daredevil :D
Makes his blindness far less 'depressing' if you see what I mean?
Oh I've said all along I don't want a Daredevil or Cyclops as some people suggesting! Just seems like a gimmick. If he's blind then I think he should be done with the main fighting.
jyomungunder??? is an optional boss and the midgarserpent from ff7 is in the game as well
If I would've seen this video before I would've told iggy to watch out..
I don't mind at all, Peasant :) I like the idea too ^_^ I love super heroes just as much Final Fantasy hero ;)
Ignis gonna feed Cor chocobo's greens and Cor gonna choke to death
Ardyn tricked Noctis to damage prompto not kill not murder but damage him only to get him back on the regalia so they switched stuff up
I don't think that's ignis' walking stick it looks like cors Katana too me
Hey ignis went blind and we have DLC where Gladio goes into the underworld.
Granted, the raw hit rate isn't great, but it's much higher than zero.
how did this prediction go? 1/3?
Holy shit peasant, u're blowing my mind out of my head and definitely blowing the FFXV hype out of the scale! Now I seriously hope the game lives up to your theories or I'll be damn disappointed!
If square dont use any of the theories, we will kickstart a fund for our own fantasy game. We'll call it the legend of the peasants :D
We will hijack ff16's sales :P
13:11 is he giving him a ehm "hand relief"?
Seriously, though, am I the only one worried by the fact that Prompto's jacket has a skull and crossbones on it?
The snake could be Ardyn or Glaucon, they're both snake-like.
I agree, though I feel like it's more likely to be Ardyn than Glauca.
Myosotis Magnolia same