Final Fantasy XV: Ardyn's true age revealed (FF15 story theory spoilers)
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- Опубліковано 1 сер 2024
- One of my favourite aspects of final fantasy XV was the villain, Ardyn cough cough Izunia. Buckle up for another FF15 story game theory on just how old this mastermind was and context on what Noctis and the brotherhood were up against.
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long story short. he says ardyn is 3,118 years old.
real gamers Thank you
thank you lool
Thank you. this video had a lot of lame jokes in it. You just saved me.
THANKS
I knew I should've looked in the comments. This video is too long and it's kinda boring.
It's like square is just watching this like " lmao we actually never even gave him an age"
Square clearly didn't do the math! HAHA.
Didnt need to. They said 2000 years ago so assuming addyn would have lived a normal life without the crazy dark powers hed be abouf 2,100 at most unless their 2000 years was just a round off
Ardyn is the best. Just wish we got more cinematic backstory for him.
Cold Dip My only wish is on the dlc .
Every character should get more cinematic backstory.
The best? talking bullshit and what is best?
I would kill for an Ardyn DLC or prequel game. I passed the game and all I could think of was that I would have rather been playing his story than Nocts. :(
Nayukhuut just imagine a Ardyn kind like a crisis core prequel. Man this will totally make game or DLC.
And then, after Noctis and Ardyn dies... The country of Lucis receives a anonymous Donation of a unfathomable sum of Gil, enough the rebuild most of the world.
This Giver: Ardyn.
What an inflation, no more 10 Gil a tank of gas!
zero5559 Even when dead he still sends Gil to entire cities
LOL so funny~~
are u talking bout the mobile game
AE: Ancient Era
ME: Modern Era
makes sense!
Final Fantasy Peasant for the 1 Gil thing it's pronounce $309... duodicillion (and I wish i was making this up)
Nice!
James Badeker Yup
you can say what you want, but hes like fine wine. he aged well 😍
Oh yeah definitely. Fangirls can keep the stereotyped spiked haired noctis and muscle man gladio. Ardyn is the most attractive game character I've seen I'm a long time. It's the swagger 😂
Why I'm in love with Ardyn???
1. He's redhaired with black eyes
2. He's tall,slim and he had incredibly sexy long legs
3. His smile melted my heart
4. His voice drives me crazy (thank you,Darin De Paul,for the great voice acting)
5. Ardyn's fachion style is gorgeous
6. Love much his sarcastic and perverted sense of humor
I'am more of a Titus fan tbh :o
I think Ardyn was just the victim. The real villain in this story is the crystal of Eos which refused to accept the Healer even though he made such a huge sacrifice to restore peace to his people.
All in all, well done Peasant! I've enjoyed your videos for the longest time but never had the motivation to post until today, when I finished XV and broke down in tears just as you did.
I still need my revenge but im dead so i cant,but im satisfied to be freed to my curse of inmortality
To answer your question, I completely sympathise with Ardyn. He's probably my favourite Final Fantasy character of all time, and I understand his motives. That doesn't necessarily make what he did right, but I get it.. and I can't say that if I were in his situation I would have done any different. Heck.. after ten years of healing in mmos I wanna watch people burn, and Ardyn had MILLENNIA to stew. Thousands of years of pain and loneliness. Yeah, I absolutely feel sorry for him. :(
I still can't get over FF15's ending... 😞
"Dude, are you seriously trying to kill me?"
Miguel Marques That was prompto😂
The Prompto-switch was hellish in the game.
Miguel Marques lmao
Next theory, what the hell kind of currency do they use in Insomina cos Prompto asked what a gil is right at the start of the game in hammerhead
That´s the ONLY hint till the End that Prompto is in truth a.....
Kjaiao MT
Well, now I understand why he wouldn't let me drive his car. He wasn't fuckin' kidding about me not being able to front the repair costs. This guy must have the best car in all of Eos with that kind of money lol.
too bad Noctis has no heir, otherwise we will see his son go all the way into his tomb, and found.....
A finishing rod!
I wish we could use fishing rods as Noctis's weapon. That would be hilariously awesome! Just like the beach fights in Crisis Core! Ha!
I wish there would be a prequel just like crisis core, hope Nyx likes fishing.
When you are trying to reveal Ardyn's age but you end up giving a history class...
Rafa Grupp shit,I would have payed more attention in school if everything had been related back to video game lore lol
When you put it like that.....Ardyn's actually quite normal....for a Serial Killer.
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What is the true meaning behind the noodles?
The *Perfect Flavour Experience* is the meaning of life.
Chris Taka I am afraid I found a new recipeh!!
the true meaning is the noodle is both an inside joke of the devs and a tribute to the actual noodle company, which main office is, you guess it, right across the stress of Square Enix's main office. The joke is, you know, SE devs are only fed noodle finishing this game. *pedal away on bicycle*
I CAN'T BREATHE A VIDEO ABOUT ARDYN I'VE BEEN WAITING SO LONG FOR THIS I'M HAVING A STROKE
Pez, you're the best. Thank you, I needed this video so, so, so much. Also, you using Kefka's theme in this video is just...so fitting.
I love him so much okay
Gladius Dlc :
The fight its over,The Brotherhood is grieving over his monarch and more important ..brother,then Iris appears
Iris:Gladio I Noctis took my virginity and gave me his sperm in case that something happened.
Gladio:(Full with a mixture of Grief and Rage):You Son of a bitch I told you that my sister was offlimits!!!!
Meanwhile in the spirit realm
Luna:Noctis is that true?
Noctis:Well..you know I was alone,depressed there was chemistry and she was(is) cute.Besides I couldn't die virgin 113 people would be laughing at me you know?
Luna :And you know that you are dead,so I can torture you until I am satisfied ?So want to say anything.
Noctis(Running as hard as he can):Ardyn please help me give me some daemons so I can leave this place.
Ardyn:Dude let me rest.Besides didn't you have an orgy with Aranea.
Luna:He did that ?!
Ardyn:Well now you are twice as screwed ,good luck running .
Dariel Ley Noctis the lover
Dariel Ley death by snu snu
Noctis: To be fair, I hadn't seen you since we were kids, and technically we weren't even married when we were alive - let alone in a serious, committed relationship. And no, being journal buddies doesn't count. **Looks across spirit realm** Also, you mind telling me why some guy from the Kingsglaive is waving at you right now?
Dariel Ley nyx: Noctis wtf happened why are you die and have you seen crowe
Ardyn is my favorite villain and I've played several FF games and seen several villains. I know a lot of people will get mad at me but I think Ardyn's back story is and motives much better than Sephiroths. But that is my opinion on the matter.
I hope there will be DLC or side story of Ardyn. So much potential of lore around him.
Three hundred and nine undecillion, five hundred and sixty-four decillion, one hundred and fifty nonillion, four hundred and eighteen octillion, two hundred and sixty-three septillion, seven hundred and forty-one sextillion, four hundred and ninety-nine quintillion, one hundred and eleven quadrillion, one hundred and eighty-one trillion, four hundred and seven billion, two hundred and thirty-six million, three hundred and ninety thousand and nine hundred and twelve.
gil
Hazza Gaming oh god
I would like to know how mathematically how powerful the FF hero characters are compared to each other. Including Noctis of course. Do that Pez. It sounds fabulous as heck. Great video by the way. Ardyn, that old son of a gun. 3,118 yrs.
Wonderful video, Pez :D I love Ardyn and I want more info on him! 😭😭 Kudos to you for this amazing video.
I do feel for Ardyn, even more now....so sad and twisted. Thank you for all your research and the entertaining video!
Should of invested that gil then bought everyone out
i love ardyn
One thing I can say...... Ardyn was a good guy
Anime Vinex think the same. Almost no one understood his real intentions.
People think of it as a plothole? I actually dont believe Square Enix would fall for that since the game is expanding and it doesnt leave us unanswered on things. Episode #daddy Guy Fierri, Sk8terboi are in progress.
Awesome job Peasant!!~
I always look forward to your theories!
Keep up the great work!!
Ardyn lived so long thanks to excellent spaghetti, made by the gods.
Think of it as the vessel that the gods use to transfer immortality to mortals.
I don't know about that... for that amount of time, I suspect it must have been lasagna. Spaghetti will only make you live that long.
Really fun video Pez, thanks helping me survive my essay writing today.
Yet another great video peasant :) also you're almost at 30,000 subs congrats 🎉
Thanks broseph! :D
Yo man wouldnt it be more right if you did 113 timesthe average number of years that kings rule until they die and pass the rulingg to the next one istead of when they have their heirs born?So if the average is lets say 40 years of ruling then Ardyn's age could be well over 4500.
There were two lucis queens. One was Rogue and other was the shield. The trident was from Noblewoman, not sure if that counts or not.
Who knows how much gil is he hiding in some cave somewhere :D But Jesus, poor guy. Definitely my most favourite FF villain
who wants ardyn in dissidia?
I want Ardyn in Smash
The amount of effort you put into your videos. Jesus fucking christ they are worth the wait.
Holy shit, so much detail. Amazing video dude!
I'm just wondering what his immediate reaction was to finding out he wasn't worthy. I mean he absorbed the demons into him because they was no other way and then immediately the crystal was like 'No way, Ardyn. You're way too messed up man because of the demons living inside you.' And Ardyn was like 'If you had another way to combat the demons I would love to hear about it'.
Maybe Ardyn was supposed to sacrifice himself (like Noctis) to save the world but he chose to find another way, and ended up becoming a daemon himself. He wanted to fight against his fate but the Astrals weren't happy when he became tainted.
Ya know, I'm a huge fan of characters who defy their fate and chooses how they live and die, but when the alternative is becoming the sealed can for millions of demons for three thousand years, wiping out two bloodlines, killing a shitload of people and having a night that never ends for ten years, I think accepting your fate to die is a better case scenario.
i apppreciate your hard work, great video as always peasant
Holy crap pez, that's some hardcore studying up you had to do! Also, your video editing skills are legit.
also, more of these plz
That Rogue of Lucis pic was awesome! I did a song about all 13 royal arms, and one of the wiki's said the Shield of the Just also belonged to a Queen.
Good video, you make a really compelling argument. The one problem I see with this is that we don't know how old the Lucius Caelum family is. We can safely assume that Ardyn was the first King of Lucius and the 'Chosen' from the info we have been given; but, that doesn't necessarily mean he was the first Lucius Caelum. His family could have been a noble one back during the days of Solheim so he could have been Lucius Caelum whatever number. Of course there is no way of knowing any of that so your theory/calculations are the most practical and reasonable to go by for now
I'd love to see more videos like this! Noctis's power level sounds like a fun video!
Why are there only 13 armiger weapons and not 113?
Syed Haque Seems weird to me to. Also weird how there's also only 13 Astrals when there should be 113 for all the dead ancestors.
Syed Haque the game said that some of them had been destroyed in history or some haven't been discovered at all n some of them been also stolen
phxrebirth the game said that some of them had been destroyed in history or some haven't been discovered at all n some of them been also stolen
There aren't 13 Astrals? There are six. The archaeon, the fulgurian, the hydraeon, the glacian, the draconian and the infernian.
James Bray Those aren't Astrals. Those are just the gods. Astrals are the spirits of the Lucis family ancestors.
"All the past kings look about in their 50s."
Mate, all the past kings look like Reddas
killXtech
Mm, so much beard
Episode Ardyn DLC?
CONFIRMED AND HYPED
Yes, and I'm pumped for it! They have a terrific chance to make just about all of the fans happy, I hope they don't mess it up.
Pes, your quality of voice recording & editing has increased tenfold!
I'm listening to all your older videos as a sort of podcast while playing FFXV, and to go from them to your vids now is insane. Keep up the fantastic work ya filthy Peasant! :D
(Gotta say, hearing your theory videos after having completed FFXV is really depressing.If only the story did feature a lot of what you said) :)
Pretty sure it’s 2000 something. When Ardyn fought Regis in Episode Ardyn that was about 20 years before FFXV. And he confirmed the last time he’d seen his brother was 2000 years ago.
i had to comment and say thank you because, i for one hate math and would't do the math to figure it out. but props for being dedicated on finding the truth square enix hire this guy he has heart.
I love your ending songs with the dancing chibis!
That's crazyyyy!!! omg thank you for this video !
Your analytical skills continues to surprise me. Well done 😏
Very well done and enjoyable vid thanks for the share!
Thank you for giving me more and more reasons to adore Ardyn! keep it up Peasant!!!
XD You put a TON of thought into this! Good job man! Gotta admit, game designers do their jobs right when people find themselves more interested in the villian than the heroes.
Ignis comments early on the the armaments were the weapons of pass kings of Lucis, but not all have survived to the present day. This means only those thirteen were placed in a tomb in a secure enough location.
And when Prompto asks if any of Noct's ancestors were buried somewhere safe, the answer is yes. Which is why thy have to drag their feet through dangerous places to find a surviving tomb.
Dont forget that there were two Queens, Star of the Rogue and Shield of the Just.
would be pretty awesome to see Noctis' ancestors, because there is no way that there has always been only KINGS in the Caelum succession line
Murakami 11:40
Wouldnt it also be good to consider how old each king was when they died, save for Noctis, so that the next lineage could then take the throne? Somewhere between 40-50 years old, yeah? I'd say he's between 3000-5500 years old which is still a good 2500 year old difference
Such an interesting and awesome video :D
LMAO dude you slay me every time you get hype! I bet you are hilarious to hang out with. Also I despise Caius Ballad but absolutely love Ardyn. His dialogue is amazing! FF15 needs a sequel.
Yes, I would like to see that video about comparing Noct's power to the other main characters.
The question is where is galahd location in ffxv pez?
I think based on Nyx/Libertus and pictures of Galahd being quite foresty. I would say its not far from Tenebrae. Or even a sub nation of Tenebrae. Makes sense for it to be positioned between Niflheim and Tenebrae as thats how it would have got swept up in the Nif's conquest when it did.
aren't we suppose to meet the fat glaive there? Nyx fat friend from the movie
Someone from the FFXV subreddit matched the map in the intro of Kingsglaive and in the in-game. IIRC Galahd was in the north of Vesperpool
that must felt like one long blink being immortal and all.
I LOVE Ardyn, creepy old man with a sexy ass voice and a tragic backstory. My kind of villain/hero ::D
Great Vid Pez :)
damn it was feeling so dry on youtube without your videos!!!
this was such an insane history class for a fictional amazing character but I loved it, Pez! With the Ardyn DLC coming out in March (my birthday month!) will you do another video of our favorite FF villain/tragic hero?
AE: ancient era
ME: modern era
source: Ultimania timeline of eos
where you got Regis' birthdate?
sorry if I ask, but, the scourge happened onli 2000y ago as it says in the ultimania. So Ardyn started to take daemons into him only at that point? maybe he's older, maybe his 3,118yo, because he's a messenger..? I don't know but the scourge happened only 2000y ago, there was no daemons before that time apparently. or was it?
Great video, Pez. Had me laughing. And very interesting.
Question, or better yet, questions; why there are only 13 royal arms? why at the end of the game we see only noctis and 13 other kings (14 overall), what about the other 100 kings who came before? (99 if Ardyn was the 1st...)
why didn't we see in the "beyond" more kings attacking Ardyn?? where are the other 100 Royal arms? or did the royal arms started only with the 100th king? therefore there are only 13 royal arms in noctis's time since he is the 114th...?
BTW, I thought about the age of Ardyn in the following way: there are usually 4 generations in a 100 years... so or so.
if noctis is the 114th in his bloodline, and Ardyin is the 1st ,or the one who betrayed him was the 1st.... that makes Ardyn 2000+ years old for sure but to be more accurate:
2,736 if a generation comes every 25 years, but let's just say around 2,500 years average overall...so or so.
Just 1 thing i want to add... you said none of the kings look young but thats a moot point since we are directly told the strain of the power ages and kills prematurely. also with that being the case seeing as Regis looked about 50 if he really was 50 it would mean he wasnt particarly aged by using the power despite using it consistantly from the point he erected the new wall. the biggest issues therefore are the inconsistances with certain parts which i think you have probably realized thats why its so hard to make concrete conclusions.
on a final note.. there were 3 walls which were the city wall which surrounds the city, the old wall which are the guardians Nyx uses and the new wall which was the protective shield
HILARIOUS!! So spot on...well I'm a Brit too so I was with you all the way being a Royal fan too...by the way is there a video of just the FF characters dancing to that tuen cos its not long enough and I love it. x
queen of lucis link please
"Pimp my Reich" Lit! Please do more videos like this!
LOL @18:46 the number he would have 😆 "this isn't even a number".
truly enjoyed the video lol. thumbs up
Love your videos :D I'm hooked!
But I wanna throw a thought out there regarding the 2000 years number and that is we know how much Square loves their allusions. So consider that - 2000 years approx is the give or take dates for the Life of Christ and the founding of the faith pon his sacrifice as a messiah figure. So looking at Adryn as a fallen messiah figure this begins to line up a certain type of mythology. Ardyn's is an 'Anti-Christ'.
He's fallen, failed, rejected in contrast to to Noctis true messiah esque role. (self sacrificed himself to save everyone/redeem those enslaved to darkness. Plus Noctis is referred to often as the King of of Kings and the Latter Day King.) Also we have that concept art of Ardyn riding in the city on the Chocobo was is meant to evoke the Triumphant Entry of Christ ala the Palm Sunday tradition and if I'm mistaken there is one other piece of concept art meant to evoke a Christ like figure. That taken into account the number of 2000 isn't arbitrary because it's often dates things back to that 'era' of time from the modern age and with Eos being so influenced by a form of 'reality' ..that kinda lines up and we all know how much JRPG's love using Christian theology for their entertainment and storytelling. :D
So just a thought that the 2000 figure isn't random per se although the numbers are odd in consideration of what isn't said. Is there a gap of time between the gifting of the crystals and all four nations being founded and the change over of the four nations to one calendar (four nations..I see you Type 0) and the thought that Ardyn may not have been the first king to begin with. Was he active before te crystal was given? the timeline throws a few wrenches into things as usually happens (Looking at yoU Ivalice 'timeline'..)
Just another thought for theory crafting. :D
Just a thought though, it would be 'somewhat' believable to have 113 Kings of Lucis within those 2,000 years (not saying I'm with the wiki on Ardyn being 2,000 years old, just thinking of some justifiable reasons, or theorizing as you would call it :P) IF some of the Kings died during the war/any war (either physical death or from the Ring of Lucii-overuse/desperate acts/etc.). For all we know, there could have been brothers that took over or there could have been really young heirs (whose fathers died during battle and such). But despite this theory, 2000 years for 113 Monarchs does seem far fetch to me. And your theory did suggest that Ardyn would be 3,118 years old if the Lucis line went swimmingly well lol. I'd definitely say he is in the 3,000 years range. Other than that, keep up the good work Pez!
@final fantasy peasant did the video explaining how noctis compares in strength happened? It was mentioned @19:05
18:55 the moment your art pops up in a video and you laugh your ass off.
You could've asked for better resolution, y'know Pez? :P
where can I buy the final fantasy 15 lore book? @final fantasy peasant
Could you make a video about what VsXIII could've been? Regarding your theory videos but with more depth
Well...I have read the ultimania guide book and here is part of the timeline :the star scourge occurred about 2000 years ago and many people died for that,before the slumber astrals gave the ring of lucii and Crystal to the first king and he built the Lucian kingdom,later 12 statues was built which means there had been at least 12 kings,and AFTER THAT a healer appeared and calmed the disease, so it is quite possible that Ardyn was not the first king
Was Ardyn the first king? It only says he ruled as king 2,000 years ago,
which also could be a rough estimate not exactly 2000
how where the sealed foam to hold dungeon ?
ffxv was revealing with the sky sword origin . that's the finishing move cloud used on sephroth , but in ffxv cloud was named prontol.as I mentioned the ff staff mixes these characters and names , so bad for nothing
Awesome video, geez he's old, dident either think he had that nice round number of 2000 but to think he is a milenia more, what effects would living so long have on the human mind? I havent really played all Final Fantasy games but Ardyn have have growned on me and i starting to think he is my favorite character in all of the Final Fantasy Franchine
the clip at 11:06, where it comes from?
ok found, it's the audi r8 star of lucis teaser. :)
Can you please do a video about the past Lucian kings, I think the story line did not address them sufficiently, I really want to understand bit more though...
Ardyn sure had alot of time to hone his skills. I kinda wish he won against the light is that bad? he just seemed so much more alive then any of the others!
The clip at 11:00 where did you get that from? For some reason I have not seen that before & I feel I have seen every video regarding FFXV.
are you going to be live streaming the carnival??
Was that finally fantasy 10 music in the background?
Yes.
Hey Pez, quick question. Wouldn't the 17.69 figure more accurately describe the average time between kings? Because we know that there have been 113 kings over 2000 years but each king was not crowned immediately upon their birth but presumably after the death of the previous king.
My thinking could be wrong but it seems to me that 17.6 years would be the average reign of each King of Lucis.
Or maybe I'm interpreting the information incorrectly.
Also another question that has confused my since starting the game. Why only 13 royal arms when there have been 113 kings? Did 100 of those kings not leave behind weapons?
Link to image of Rogue Queen of Lucis?
Where does the clip at 11:01 come from?
nobody:
me: watching a 20 minute video about a game villains age
Hey Pez i think AE means Astral Eos while ME meaning Mankind Eos
Wait was that when he was born or when he became immortal, if the latter we can easily add an extra 40 or so years onto him XD.
Keyblademaster427 I kept scrolling through comments to see if anyone else noticed what I thought was the most blatant oversight in the whole video. hell you could make it 42 so it's a nicer rounder number at 3160 years old. also pez loved the video. yes now go spend a month finding a way to compare all the FF main protagonist power levels! do it! kupo!
he is 2000 years old...if you have the ultimate version there is a book with Timeline, all the major events are listed
This was awesome x]