Religion FACE-OFF: Michael Knowles Vs Megan Basham

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  • @daerdevvyl4314
    @daerdevvyl4314 Місяць тому +168

    It would've been hilarious if Michael had guessed that the Protestant Avenger was Thor.

  • @mjenningssmith
    @mjenningssmith Місяць тому +168

    St. Augustine is the oldest congregation but the building burned to the ground and was rebuilt in 1793.

    • @johnharrison6745
      @johnharrison6745 Місяць тому +1

      @@Read-My-Post-Idiot Ad-hominem/Genetic-Fallacy. Demonstrate that what he posted was wrong. 😏

    • @spartanastas
      @spartanastas Місяць тому +4

      Church of Antioch is first Christian Church, which was mentioned in the Bible and still exists.

    • @sanjivjhangiani3243
      @sanjivjhangiani3243 Місяць тому +3

      ​@@spartanastasI think they mean the first Church in what is now the US.

    • @tjmcnasty3928
      @tjmcnasty3928 Місяць тому +1

      I go to mass at st Augustine sometimes

    • @davidgravy2007
      @davidgravy2007 Місяць тому

      The Church of Ephesus to which St Paul wrote his epistle, still exists.

  • @stephaniejackson3269
    @stephaniejackson3269 Місяць тому +29

    Yes! Spurgeon, Sproul, Macarthur!!! (I'm a reformed evangelical protestant.) I'd like to say how much I love that people at the daily wire are not only politically honest but religious. Without belief in God, and without a reverent fear of God, there is no moral standard or accountability. Love you guys! :)

    • @ziffy88
      @ziffy88 Місяць тому

      Baptists are not reformed

    • @melindat2155
      @melindat2155 Місяць тому +1

      😂😂pmsl ...true

    • @erc9468
      @erc9468 Місяць тому +1

      Conservatism doesn’t wind up conserving very much if it isn’t grounded in religious belief.

  • @JoshN91
    @JoshN91 Місяць тому +127

    Hey! St. Thomas the Apostle is my Patron Saint too! I said I would never be Catholic, so when I did join the church I thought Doubting Thomas would be appropriate. 😅

    • @denisegoetz5864
      @denisegoetz5864 Місяць тому

      😂😂😂

    • @jonathancurtis5122
      @jonathancurtis5122 Місяць тому +1

      What is a patron saint? Like your favourite saint?

    • @JoshN91
      @JoshN91 Місяць тому +18

      @@jonathancurtis5122 When you receive the sacrament of Confirmation you pick a patron saint. He or she is a saint that you have something in common with or a saint you respect. I love St. Thomas’ few lines in scripture. “Let us also go, that we may die with him.” That’s the resolve I want to have in my own life. When I receive the Eucharist I also like to meditate on his exclamation of “My Lord and my God!”
      We believe the saints in heaven can pray for us, so I ask St. Thomas the Apostle to pray for me. It doesn’t mean I can’t talk directly to God, I do and can, but rather it’s like asking a friend to pray for you. Hope that helps!

    • @antonyjohnsonchittilapilly8498
      @antonyjohnsonchittilapilly8498 Місяць тому +9

      @@JoshN91amen mate!
      I am a st Thomas Catholic (from his mission in India, he is the patron saint of India.
      Blessings to you.

    • @holyromanemperor420
      @holyromanemperor420 Місяць тому

      ​@@antonyjohnsonchittilapilly8498
      Mallu?

  • @RachelJoseph-l2f
    @RachelJoseph-l2f Місяць тому +84

    I'm a Syro-Malabar Catholic and my family is from Kerala

  • @wilbert9567
    @wilbert9567 Місяць тому +34

    St. Athanasius answer is wrong in his letter he left the book of Esther out of his canon and included Baruch and the Letter of Jeremiah in other books. So not the 66 Protestant canon

  • @bilcarter
    @bilcarter Місяць тому +8

    That last question was a mess. The correct answer is...(complicated)
    In 382 AD, Pope Damasus I declared the 73 books of the Bible to be canon at the Council of Rome. They included all of the 66 books recognized today by the Protestants, but also contained 7 books known as the "deuterocanonicals". Since the future Protestant Reformation was impossible to predict back in the 4th Century, the original list of 73 was ratified after the Reformation by the Catholic Council of Trent which ran from 1545-1563.
    The Catholic Church has maintained the 73 books of Scripture since the earliest days of the Church. Protestants declared the 7 books of the deuterocanonicals to be apocryphal and removed them from the Bible that had been in common use for 1200 years up to that point. Thus, the canon of 66 books that they have now only goes back to the 16th Century, not to the 4th.

    • @thespyer2k
      @thespyer2k Місяць тому

      Council of Rome isnt real. And the Deuterocanon were debated all the way through church history.

  • @moritzkopp7042
    @moritzkopp7042 Місяць тому +17

    We need more face-offs, they’re so entertaining! :) loved it

  • @Joeya.2458
    @Joeya.2458 Місяць тому +30

    32:54 When saint Athanasius lists the canon he includes Baruch as part of Jeremiah so that's not the Protestant canon.

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Місяць тому +4

      They could've done a better job formulating a lot of these questions

    • @freddiedejesus785
      @freddiedejesus785 Місяць тому +1

      @@ironymatt It's just his producer researching the topics. It's not a bad job.

    • @thespyer2k
      @thespyer2k Місяць тому +1

      That isnt an issue of canonicity. That is an issue of textual criticism. Baruch was thought to have belonged to Jeremiah

    • @Joeya.2458
      @Joeya.2458 26 днів тому

      @@thespyer2k Although he does explicitly mention Baruch, you are right, he mentions it as part of Jeremiah, so hypothetically, it could be textual criticism. BUT, he does not mention Esther in the same category as the protocanonical books, and instead lists it amongst the other books, such as Wisdom and Sirach. So even conceding your point, he still doesn't give the Protestant canon.

  • @Fasolislithuan
    @Fasolislithuan Місяць тому +65

    34:10 That's incorrect. The 66 book of Athanasius (that was bad spelled for the man in the center) it isn't the protestant canon. That's a false claim for some protestant trying to hide that Athanasius recognize as canonical Baruch and the epistle of Jeremiah that protestant consider apocrypha. Also Athanasius never considered Esther as canonical but present in protestant bibles. Also Athanasius considered other Deuterocanonical books like Wisdow, Judit, Tobit (and canonical Esther) as books necessary to learn the Christian doctrines. The problem is the term canon in Athanasius time was not used as the norm to specify the Christian books rather the term used to specify the Jewish books. So Athanasius in this letter when is speaking of "canon" he's not speking about the christian canon but the books that Jews of his time considered sacred (Esther and some deuterocanonical were rejected and Baruch was accepted in many Jewish circles) ). So the claim of a canon of 66 books in 367 by Athanasius like the modern protestant bibles is a blatant lie.

    • @reeferfranklin
      @reeferfranklin Місяць тому +8

      Correct, and Michæl Knowles was wrong too, it wasn't Bishop Billy's backwater letter, is was a Festal Letter, the 39th, and a Paschal letter, and he absolutely endorse the deuterocanon of you read the whole letter, it's actually an awesome letter for all Christians to read to understand how to view the Scriptures.

    • @j.athanasius9832
      @j.athanasius9832 Місяць тому +5

      Athanasius esteemed the apocryphal books as authoritative for teaching, and also as “inspired” in a sense. He also denied them status as the authoritative canon. In this way, his view is similar to the Anglican and Russian Orthodox churches, which view the Septuagint apocrypha as important and to some degree inspired, but not ontologically commensurate with the canonical books (some minor confusion about the status of the longer version of Daniel and Jeremiah notwithstanding)

    • @alexm6715
      @alexm6715 Місяць тому +5

      @@j.athanasius9832That would be really weird if Russian Orthodox didn’t believe that the Septuagint apocryphal books weren’t fully inspired to the extent that the common canon books are. I’m pretty sure that’s not true because I’ve heard Russian Orthodox speak about the deuterocanon and no other Orthodox Church believes that they are lesser than the common books shared among all denominations.

    • @holyromanemperor420
      @holyromanemperor420 Місяць тому +1

      Right

    • @MultiBigAndy
      @MultiBigAndy Місяць тому +1

      Do you have counter evidence to back up your claim?
      History books, articles, names and dates, and context?

  • @shanewright4650
    @shanewright4650 Місяць тому +35

    The fact that Michael was considering wheather it was Batman but managed to land on Captain America was quite impressive

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Місяць тому

      What was Batman's anyway?

    • @simondeep
      @simondeep Місяць тому +5

      @@ironymattnot sure if it’s outrightly stated. A lot of the graveyard imagery points to anglican or catholic, or something high-church

    • @redharlow76
      @redharlow76 Місяць тому +1

      @@simondeepI coulda sworn I read Catholic somewhere but I wouldnt be able to source it for you

    • @davidanoble
      @davidanoble Місяць тому +1

      I think he was trolling when he said Batman, but I can't prove it lol

    • @jaggedplanet
      @jaggedplanet Місяць тому +2

      Batman is Catholic. The creators and authors of Batman said that he’s Catholic. There is also a comic out there where Batman gives up his identity as Batman and finds his new identity in Christ and is ordained to the priesthood

  • @maxoscar7204
    @maxoscar7204 Місяць тому +20

    Plz plz plz people. Can we spread awareness of the christen teacher in Ireland. 415 days in jail for his beliefs. His name is Enoch Burke. Plz Michael god bless

  • @markconro5796
    @markconro5796 Місяць тому +12

    So you’re telling me I’ve been to the Shrine in DC, but Michael hasn’t? Didn’t have that on my Catholic bingo card 😂

  • @SevereFamine
    @SevereFamine Місяць тому +41

    Respectfully, please hire a fact checker!

    • @SiccazHD
      @SiccazHD Місяць тому

      Its fun and games brother

  • @AlexanderSchröder777
    @AlexanderSchröder777 Місяць тому +113

    Christianity is the one true religion.

    • @Matthew_Klepadlo
      @Matthew_Klepadlo Місяць тому +42

      Catholicism specifically.
      I have to take it on faith that the church Christ Himself instituted is indeed divinely instituted…
      Because no other institution governed by such navish imbecility would’ve lasted a fortnight lol.

    • @HughJorgan1
      @HughJorgan1 Місяць тому +3

      Islam also makes that claim and about a billion Hindus would disagree.

    • @hideokojima6106
      @hideokojima6106 Місяць тому +7

      prove it. oh wait you can't lol

    • @synergyb3926
      @synergyb3926 Місяць тому +4

      No. Being a born again follower of Jesus is The Way. Most denominations are apostate and leading people to follow e v i l.

    • @frekigeri4317
      @frekigeri4317 Місяць тому +13

      Catholicism

  • @natashamiller4860
    @natashamiller4860 Місяць тому +2

    Thank you for having Megan Basham on! I would love to see more of her!!

  • @Gastornis11
    @Gastornis11 Місяць тому +48

    Religion is the best thing that has happened to our fallen world!

    • @SalSagev-n3s
      @SalSagev-n3s Місяць тому +3

      So you support all religions and all Gods/Deities past and present?

    • @Matthew_Klepadlo
      @Matthew_Klepadlo Місяць тому +11

      Well, Jesus is the best.

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@Matthew_KlepadloSure, someone you never met. 😅

    • @raiova8550
      @raiova8550 Місяць тому +5

      ​​@@geoffreyk6229 You never met Jesus? Your loss.

    • @geoffreyk6229
      @geoffreyk6229 Місяць тому

      ​@@raiova8550Nah, not loss. Sane. Have you met Jesus? Answer yes and I will consider you insane.😅

  • @isaacpaneerselvam
    @isaacpaneerselvam Місяць тому +15

    I believe Angkor Wat is by far the biggest religious structure in the world. Angkor Wat holds the guiness world record for largest religious structure in the world at 402 acres compared to the Great Mosque of Mecca’s 88 acres.

    • @ericarobbin
      @ericarobbin Місяць тому +1

      Angkor Wat is absolutely the largest. I came to the comments to see if anyone else caught this.

    • @jamersbazuka8055
      @jamersbazuka8055 Місяць тому

      "Largest building constructed for worship," wasn't Angkor Wat a university, a place of religious study, rather than a place of worship?

    • @isaacpaneerselvam
      @isaacpaneerselvam Місяць тому +1

      @@jamersbazuka8055 why was Angkor Wat an answer choice/option then? Seems silly to make it an answer choice in that case

    • @jamersbazuka8055
      @jamersbazuka8055 Місяць тому

      @@isaacpaneerselvam aren't red herrings par for the course with these? Like the Islamic relic question?

    • @isaacpaneerselvam
      @isaacpaneerselvam Місяць тому

      @@jamersbazuka8055 I suppose

  • @thedeluxembourg
    @thedeluxembourg Місяць тому +8

    Pronunciation of Athanasius killed me inside

  • @Artisan_GenZ
    @Artisan_GenZ Місяць тому +39

    Michael Knowles calling St. Athanasius "some guy" is insane.

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Місяць тому +21

      Mr Davies' pronunciation of St Athanasius wasn't anything to write home about either

    • @williamnathanael412
      @williamnathanael412 Місяць тому +6

      Papist trying to understand some church fathers believe in 66-book canon challenge: impossible.

    • @sethn1094
      @sethn1094 Місяць тому +9

      Maybe it's because it was mispronounced to him just like Pope Damasus lol

    • @primuspilushb
      @primuspilushb Місяць тому +8

      @@williamnathanael412 learn the history of the canon.

    • @vastalapasta9739
      @vastalapasta9739 Місяць тому

      @@williamnathanael412name one

  • @MiltonGoinsHome
    @MiltonGoinsHome Місяць тому +9

    Michael has a story for everything.

    • @melindat2155
      @melindat2155 Місяць тому

      Well ...DW ....is running out of thing 😂 everyone knows why they did this ...they forgot to put a question about there religion....would luv to here it ! Maybe learn something 🤔 I don't know 😕

    • @melindat2155
      @melindat2155 Місяць тому

      Say something about DW religion please 🙏

  • @douglasoneill
    @douglasoneill Місяць тому +2

    5:57 Daily Wire considers Mormon a “christian Denomination.” No one challenged it.

  • @barbarachapins2346
    @barbarachapins2346 Місяць тому +6

    @michael Knowles, you have to go to the Basillica in DC, it’s beautiful! I’m so blessed to be a local, I go most weekends. Last week I had an encounter with the Lord and felt the Holy Spirit land on me as I was leaving, it was indescribable.

  • @tadstilwell6127
    @tadstilwell6127 Місяць тому +3

    This was fun.

  • @billyray9423
    @billyray9423 Місяць тому +3

    Megan is smart and beautiful.

  • @kingleary1829
    @kingleary1829 Місяць тому +9

    Fun! Wish the questions were better though. They were all largest, biggest, or comic book questions. Cmon!

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Місяць тому +1

      The wording wasn't great either

  • @Thatoneguy-pu8ty
    @Thatoneguy-pu8ty Місяць тому +64

    I would love to see Mr. Knowles face off with Dr. Cooper or Dr. Ortlund.

    • @christafarion9
      @christafarion9 Місяць тому +5

      Knowles would run away screaming and crying.

    • @Thatoneguy-pu8ty
      @Thatoneguy-pu8ty Місяць тому +8

      @@christafarion9 I wouldn’t have phrased it like that haha, but yes, an interaction with either of the two would certainly leave Knowles reconsidering his Catholicism.

    • @Straitsfan
      @Straitsfan Місяць тому

      @@Thatoneguy-pu8ty complete and utter nonsense. Protestantism is an error. Knowles would have him for breakfast. Give it up.

    • @christafarion9
      @christafarion9 Місяць тому +2

      @@Thatoneguy-pu8ty you can use any words you feel are appropriate, my brother in Christ.

    • @bigwill-gc7su
      @bigwill-gc7su Місяць тому +17

      We've watched those two get wrecked by catholic apologists​@@Thatoneguy-pu8ty

  • @-.Germanicus.-
    @-.Germanicus.- Місяць тому +9

    😂 of all the money that daily wire has, buy some dang dry erase boad erasers!

  • @thedangeroussaint
    @thedangeroussaint Місяць тому +2

    I teach World Religions at a Catholic High School and was SCREAMING the answers at Megan, but she didn't hear me. Oh well. Still great stuff!

  • @francsiscog
    @francsiscog Місяць тому +49

    Hinduism vs secularism? Both are equally lost. Both equally depressing.

    • @HMStar10
      @HMStar10 Місяць тому +3

      Your comment sounds devilish 😂

    • @hismajesty6272
      @hismajesty6272 Місяць тому

      Both are Satanic.

    • @vikashkumarsharma1412
      @vikashkumarsharma1412 Місяць тому +9

      says a person who follows a book which is not even written by any follower of christianity LOL

    • @holyromanemperor420
      @holyromanemperor420 Місяць тому +8

      ​@@vikashkumarsharma1412
      What?

    • @holyromanemperor420
      @holyromanemperor420 Місяць тому +3

      Hinduism, particularly the more conservative, monotheistic version, is WAY better than both Islam and tbh, even some forms of "Christianity" too(since some Hindus do worship Jesus, so that's better than those other "Christian" groups that straight up deny his divinity and say God was once a man). So it is MILES better than secularism.
      I think your view of Hinduism is coming from the Western ISKCON type ones.

  • @siddharthasingh100
    @siddharthasingh100 Місяць тому +2

    More sister wives than wife and sisters 😂😂😂😂

  • @Dixienell
    @Dixienell Місяць тому +6

    I loved the game. Thank you.

  • @kroulinka
    @kroulinka Місяць тому +5

    Yay this show is back ❤

  • @vananon51
    @vananon51 Місяць тому +10

    James 2:14-26
    * Faith Without Works Is Dead
    14 What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? 15 If a brother or sister is naked and destitute of daily food, 16 and one of you says to them, “Depart in peace, be warmed and filled,” but you do not give them the things which are needed for the body, what does it profit? 17 Thus also faith by itself, if it does not have works, is dead.
    18 But someone will say, “You have faith, and I have works.” Show me your faith without your works, and I will show you my faith by my works. 19 You believe that there is one God. You do well. Even the demons believe and tremble! 20 But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? 21 Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? 22 Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? 23 And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, “Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” And he was called the friend of God. 24 You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only.
    25 Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way?
    26 For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also.

    • @Thatoneguy-pu8ty
      @Thatoneguy-pu8ty Місяць тому +3

      Ah, the beautiful truth. Saved by grace, through faith, unto good works.

    • @johnharrison6745
      @johnharrison6745 Місяць тому +4

      I just find it refreshing that someone posted an entire passage, rather than a single, out-of-context verse.

    • @leviwilliams9601
      @leviwilliams9601 Місяць тому +2

      Martin Luther was not perfect lol
      Paul and James literally used different words to say the same thing.
      If you expect to be saved and live a life that's completely opposed to the gospel then you are going to go to hell

    • @johnharrison6745
      @johnharrison6745 Місяць тому +2

      @@leviwilliams9601 No-one said that Martin Luther was perfect; all we're saying is that the Catholic Church is an obvious scam. 😏

    • @leviwilliams9601
      @leviwilliams9601 Місяць тому +2

      @@johnharrison6745 The Catholic bashing really is exhausting. The Catholic church is a respectable institution with a lot of issues and a lot of good people who love the Triune God of scripture.

  • @mement0_m0ri
    @mement0_m0ri Місяць тому +8

    Catholic vs Protestant, and somehow I, an Orthodox Christian, got more questions right than they did?! What the heck!

  • @actsapologist1991
    @actsapologist1991 Місяць тому +36

    Athanasius DID propose 66 books in his letter. But it wasn't actually the same 66 books which Protestants use today.

    • @SevereFamine
      @SevereFamine Місяць тому +8

      Hey! No honesty when discussing the Protestant canon!

    • @SolaPastora
      @SolaPastora Місяць тому

      Athanasius had too many things. Can’t find all his writings in one composition.

    • @isaacdominguez474
      @isaacdominguez474 Місяць тому +2

      He listed the deurocanonical books as well as the 66

    • @atleelang4050
      @atleelang4050 Місяць тому +1

      Athanasius did not propose any books. He conformed the books the church had already accepted.

  • @thewayhome6980
    @thewayhome6980 Місяць тому +7

    Ooh nice. Knowles was in Kerala.

  • @josueveguilla9069
    @josueveguilla9069 Місяць тому +4

    You say paganism like it's a "bad" thing.

    • @Jlleo93
      @Jlleo93 Місяць тому +3

      It is a bad thing

    • @freyasheart9527
      @freyasheart9527 Місяць тому

      It’s cause of people like him Christian’s are hated.

  • @lonestar2078
    @lonestar2078 Місяць тому +1

    Love Megan and Shapiro berating Knowles for not doing anything at Soros' wedding. Lol

  • @The_Young_Aristocrat
    @The_Young_Aristocrat Місяць тому +5

    For an idea another face off between you and Drew about western apostolic christianity and have Walsh adjudicate it?

  • @BrendanPatrickGrace
    @BrendanPatrickGrace Місяць тому

    It’s funny, I actually knew the question about church sizes and the Basilica because I went there for mass last Christmas. It’s top 10 largest churches in the entire world, I believe, and was GORGEOUS at Christmas. I honestly was overwhelmed during mass and nearly cried it was so overwhelming.

  • @smartismarti4049
    @smartismarti4049 Місяць тому +4

    I got the Nightcrawler questions thanks to Trent Horn on his appearance on Allie Beth Stuckey's show.

  • @joniseith2227
    @joniseith2227 Місяць тому +1

    Michael, put the Basilica of the Nat'l Shrine of the Immaculate Conception in Washington on your Bucket List. It is BEAUTIFUL and Mass every day at 12:05pm in the Crypt Church, Confessions available throughout the day. You will love it!!!

  • @G-MIP
    @G-MIP Місяць тому +8

    The Catholic Church preserved, compiled, translated, chose the books to include and declared the Bible canon in 382 under Pope Damasus at the Council of Rome. Jesus didn’t leave us a Bible but He did leave us a church (Matthew 16:18).
    ”Therefore, brothers, stand firm and hold fast to the traditions that you were taught, either by an oral statement or by a letter of ours.”
    -2 Thessalonians 2:15 NAB
    ”Wherever the bishop shall appear, there, let the multitude of the people also be; even as wherever Jesus Christ is, there is the *Catholic Church.* “ (Letter to the Smyrnaeans, Chapter 8) -St. Ignatius of Antioch, 107 AD
    St. Ignatius of Antioch was a disciple of St. John the Apostle and was installed as the 3rd Catholic Bishop of Antioch by St. Peter the Apostle (most likely) after the 2nd Bishop Evodius died. Evodius was the person who coined the term “Christian.” Traditon says Ignatius was one of the children Jesus Blessed in scripture.
    Sorry if this is too much church history for someone that attends a decade-old church.

  • @thadtheman3751
    @thadtheman3751 Місяць тому +1

    The song is 500 miles, the lyric is I would walk 500 miles and I would walk 500 more just to be the man who walks 1000 miles to fall down at your door.

  • @devintarr
    @devintarr Місяць тому +4

    Wow, so disappointed in both Knowles & Basham on these! I’m at 17 min in and they’ve missed so many!

    • @jonathanw1106
      @jonathanw1106 Місяць тому

      Not surprised in the least about Basham. Can't wait till she's not longer relevant to Christianity

  • @TheJpyne518
    @TheJpyne518 Місяць тому +2

    I want Knowles vs Gordon on Catholic history

  • @kyleorr4578
    @kyleorr4578 Місяць тому +1

    Athanasius is not "Bishop Billy", Michael. He's one of the most influential churchmen of all time. He's the great defender of the Nicene faith against the scourge of the Arians. The Athanasian creed is one of the most famous and popular creeds in church history

    • @TracyW-me8br
      @TracyW-me8br Місяць тому

      He said the question was a Bishop Billy question. He did not say St Anthanias was a Bishop Billy.

    • @kyleorr4578
      @kyleorr4578 Місяць тому +1

      ​@TracyW-me8br respectfully, that's just not true. Michael's exact quote was "Some guy wrote it in a letter." Athanasius is not "some guy"

    • @kyleorr4578
      @kyleorr4578 Місяць тому

      Michael may not have understood that he was talking about Athanasius, though, because Ben Davies butchered his name repeatedly

  • @radhiadeedou8286
    @radhiadeedou8286 Місяць тому +6

    The first question was extremely depressing

    • @Catechuman23
      @Catechuman23 Місяць тому

      Why? Because the Catholics are right, or because the Catholics are correct?

    • @ironymatt
      @ironymatt Місяць тому +1

      "Forgive them Father, for they know not what they do"

  • @sven_86
    @sven_86 Місяць тому +3

    love megan's face stare as michael goes off on one of his post question rants. lol.

  • @coltonhenry2921
    @coltonhenry2921 Місяць тому +1

    The statue of unity, which was recently built, is significantly taller than the spring temple. It is a Buddhist statue towering at a staggering 597 feet

  • @ForceRecon112
    @ForceRecon112 Місяць тому +5

    in terms of % growth year over year, Orthodoxy is growing at a faster rate than evangelicalism

    • @Thatoneguy-pu8ty
      @Thatoneguy-pu8ty Місяць тому +3

      That’s definitely not true. Pentecostalism is absolutely surging worldwide.

    • @ForceRecon112
      @ForceRecon112 Місяць тому +2

      @@Thatoneguy-pu8ty I said i terms of % of growth. They went from 675k pre pandemic to between 4-6 million post pandemic. so that's an 8-10x increase

    • @hismajesty6272
      @hismajesty6272 Місяць тому

      Because Evangelicalism was a fad. Protestants should return to classical, paedobaptist Protestantism.

    • @ewela3432
      @ewela3432 Місяць тому +1

      ​@@ForceRecon112 Pentecostalism and non-denominationalism show faster growth by far

  • @JROC81686
    @JROC81686 Місяць тому +2

    How are they supposed to answer the questions when he can’t even read them!!! 😂

  • @stephankwapis
    @stephankwapis Місяць тому +4

    It will never not be funny to me that the Knight of Columbus headquarters and museum sits right at the edge of Yale 😂

    • @gainsofglory6414
      @gainsofglory6414 Місяць тому +1

      And St. Mary's with Fr. Mcgivney's tomb which is one step away from becoming a massive Catholic pilgrimage site.

    • @stephankwapis
      @stephankwapis Місяць тому

      @@gainsofglory6414 right! I had so many pictures of it when I visited but my phone died and I lost them all 😭

    • @gainsofglory6414
      @gainsofglory6414 Місяць тому

      @@stephankwapis thats too bad. I was just there for training with the Knights a few weeks ago.

    • @stephankwapis
      @stephankwapis Місяць тому +1

      @@gainsofglory6414 oh nice! Made it through new agent school did ya? Congrats!

    • @gainsofglory6414
      @gainsofglory6414 Місяць тому +1

      @@stephankwapis It was training for the state EFF (Evangelization and Faith Formation) teams on the new Cor initiative that we need to bring back to the councils in our state. Lots of great stuff in Cor injecting some life back into the order.

  • @miniaturewarzone
    @miniaturewarzone Місяць тому

    Love this!

  • @strive4252
    @strive4252 Місяць тому +5

    The moderator was terrible he had so many wrong. Also he can’t even say St. Athanasius name right. He’s wrong about his claim and St. Athanasius was a Bishop in the Catholic Church who supported Rome. St Irenaeus of Lyons another bishop had an even earlier proposal of all the books in 182. These proposals were decided by Pope Damascus in the Council of Rome.
    “To know history is to cease to be Protestant” -St. John Henry Newman

  • @daviddavenport9350
    @daviddavenport9350 Місяць тому +1

    Megan, I am not certain "trepidatious" is a word......we will both need to look that one up!

  • @GWDell
    @GWDell Місяць тому +8

    Bro said “on that happy note” 😂

  • @OneCatholicSpeaks
    @OneCatholicSpeaks Місяць тому +2

    I heard claim the oldest continuously used Catholic Is Our Lady of Peace (Honolulu)

  • @andrewthomastaylor
    @andrewthomastaylor Місяць тому +5

    Athanasius did not propose the Protestant canon then lol. This host is getting all the answers wrong

  • @chrisgaitan1741
    @chrisgaitan1741 Місяць тому +2

    I’ve been to the shrine in Saint Augustine a couple times and Davies is technically correct because the wording of the question. It is the oldest active congregation in America, but it’s not the oldest standing church because it burnt down and was rebuilt

  • @blutausbeherit
    @blutausbeherit Місяць тому +4

    That question about the 66 book canon is so incorrect on every level it's embarrassing lol. Classic protestant shenanigans regarding history

  • @traddammaren2774
    @traddammaren2774 Місяць тому +1

    The black stone was actually brought down from heaven by Gabriel, according to Islamic history and the Hadith.

  • @reeferfranklin
    @reeferfranklin Місяць тому +7

    Bishop Athanasius was no Bishop Backwater Billy, he was the Bishop of Alexandria, the heart of Christian thought, in the 4th Century, and it was his 39th Festal Letter of the Paschal season, and he absolutely endorses all 73 books, read the whole letter Proto!!!

  • @SlapMyBass3825
    @SlapMyBass3825 Місяць тому

    Michael still has not accepted my challenge for a Face Off regarding music.

  • @RocketsharK7
    @RocketsharK7 Місяць тому +4

    Pentecostal isn't evangelical?? I'm confused now

    • @camara1194
      @camara1194 Місяць тому +1

      it’s linked to it

    • @Blackjack-vx2jb
      @Blackjack-vx2jb Місяць тому +8

      to be fair, Protestant isn't a denomination and Mormons are definitionally not Christian, so really none of the answers made sense

    • @mattc1647
      @mattc1647 Місяць тому

      ​@Blackjack-vx2jb good thing Mormons don't care what ya think about our worship of Christ, gatekeeper

    • @holyromanemperor420
      @holyromanemperor420 Місяць тому +1

      Well, it depends.
      The Lutherans and most of the early Protestant Churches were and are still called Evangelical. Infact, most of the mainline Churches are Evangelical.

  • @mpreaper9459
    @mpreaper9459 Місяць тому +1

    Actually, Wolverine is also a Catholic. But I knew they were meaning Nightcrawler.

  • @nathanrohland536
    @nathanrohland536 Місяць тому +6

    The third largest religious group is simply "unaffiliated," obviously "secular atheist" is a subgroup of that, not the entire category. Really poor/misleading wording.

    • @Babygreen_man
      @Babygreen_man Місяць тому +2

      Also, from my own experience, most people that claim to be atheist are actually agnostic. Atheist is just a more well known word.

  • @heofnorenown
    @heofnorenown Місяць тому +2

    There is at least one catholic in Afghanistan: Lord Miles

  • @arsenicrice9990
    @arsenicrice9990 Місяць тому +7

    "Fastest growing Christian denomination" - proceeds to include the non-Christian Mormons lol

  • @karlsnilsson
    @karlsnilsson Місяць тому

    interesting approach to promoting a book - staring blankly in the face of questions directed squarely at your area of expertise

  • @paulsmallwood1484
    @paulsmallwood1484 Місяць тому +3

    A Protestant response. Saying "Protestants removed books from the Bible during the Reformation" is as misleading as saying "Catholics added books to the Bible at the Council of Trent." Both statements assume a fixed OT canon prior to the 16th century, which these traditions then either subtracted from or added to. But there was no fixed, settled OT canon in the early or medieval church. Disputes endured, including among leading Catholic theologians, and including after the Council of Florence (e.g., Cardinal Jiménez, Cardinal Cajetan). Even where the deuterocanonical books are included within the canon, they are often given a subordinate status -- e.g., many church fathers saw them as a kind of "second-tier Scripture." Thus, the deutero-canonical books always had a contested or ambiguous status. Here is how the Catholic Encyclopedia puts it: "in the Latin Church, all through the Middle Ages we find evidence of hesitation about the character of the deuterocanonicals. There is a current friendly to them, another one distinctly unfavourable to their authority and sacredness, while wavering between the two are a number of writers whose veneration for these books is tempered by some perplexity as to their exact standing, and among those we note St. Thomas Aquinas. Few are found to unequivocally acknowledge their canonicity." So whichever view is correct, it remains false to say Protestants "removed" books from the Bible. (You cannot remove something from a place it does not yet occupy.) Rather, the Protestants followed one earlier tradition (following Jerome and numerous Eastern Fathers) and the Roman Catholic Church followed another earlier tradition (following Augustine and numerous early councils). We can debate which of these traditions is correct, but neither of them had taken dominance by the early 16th century. Hopefully remembering this will help our discussion.

    • @vngelicath1580
      @vngelicath1580 Місяць тому +1

      Don't use nuance to ruin an oversimplification. Can't you see the DW crowd are only interested in fast and easy "wins."

  • @kaloncar
    @kaloncar Місяць тому

    Megan should get bonus points for wit, beauty, and charm.

  • @mattc1647
    @mattc1647 Місяць тому +3

    As a member of the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-Day Saints (Mormon) i'm glad we made it to the table on the Christian question

    • @MusicalJackknife
      @MusicalJackknife Місяць тому +1

      Maybe PEW research included it so they had to let that slide for the stats question, but I can't imagine either one of these people would seriously entertain the idea of LDS being Christian, seeing as they reject the very basic principles of Christianity.

    • @Catechuman23
      @Catechuman23 Місяць тому +3

      Don't get too comfy now 😂

    • @hismajesty6272
      @hismajesty6272 Місяць тому

      It’s a travesty. LDS teaches of a different god than Christianity.

    • @M1LESMILE
      @M1LESMILE Місяць тому +2

      As a Latter-day Saint, I believe Jesus Christ is God the Son. I believe He was born of the virgin Mary. He called twelve apostles, taught them His gospel. He performed miracles during His ministry. The greatest miracle came at His death, which paid the price for our sins that we can repent and return to live with God again in heaven. If that's not he core of mainstream Christianity, I don't know what is.
      Go ahead and now tell me how my Jesus is different or some other opinion on how your doctrine is different than mine so we're technically out. I've heard it all before and it's a very un-Christain thing judge my relationship with God as like you, I'm just striving to do my best.

    • @Banana-eb8qr
      @Banana-eb8qr Місяць тому

      ⁠@@M1LESMILEyou can't believe that a prophet came after Christ though. That's what makes LDS not Christian. If you refuse that, and your beliefs align more with Christianity then you might wanna consider changing.

  • @LucasBlair-z3n
    @LucasBlair-z3n Місяць тому

    She was VERY unfair to Gavin Ortlund, can’t believe people think this book is ‘well researched’

  • @carolfogleboch7899
    @carolfogleboch7899 Місяць тому +8

    “sneaking around converting people” Michael??? You mean like the apostles??

    • @blutausbeherit
      @blutausbeherit Місяць тому

      He wasnt saying it in a demeaning way. The Catholic church has a much longer history of evangelizing than the evangelicals do. Missionaries and such

  • @oldspammer
    @oldspammer Місяць тому +1

    Four wives, but unlimited number of concubines in harems. A concubine is a non-Muslim captured captive from conquesting non-Islamic nations. These concubines are intended to have many babies of their owner.
    Baby making involves a process, and the taking of ladies from one place to another far away from their original family and home is called human trafficking especially when the given individual is considered property of the given rich guy.
    There was a UA-cam, then bit chute video about a Muslim wife wanting to give her husband a bunch of concubines, but that video was taken down to support the spread and wealth of Islam by the tech companies being as woke as possible. The wife was speaking in the language of the Qur'an but NOT English, however English subtitles were provided in order to know about what she was concerned. The video said that she found out all about the concubine procedures from her local jurisdiction's higher Islamic leader who specified that such trafficked human beings are only legal if they are infidels (non-group members where their laws are all about different treatment depending on group membership which is against international and human rights laws world wide).

  • @lpetarp3915
    @lpetarp3915 Місяць тому +4

    Ben as hostess, literally insufferable, he knows nothing

  • @daerdevvyl4314
    @daerdevvyl4314 Місяць тому +2

    25:40 They misspelled Christ.
    Also, the question asked which religion, then the choices are individual statues including two Buddhist statues. I would have just answered Buddhism. That way if either Buddhist statues are correct I answered the question correctly.

    • @daerdevvyl4314
      @daerdevvyl4314 Місяць тому +1

      They also twice misspelled Buddha in the same question.

  • @GratiaPrima_
    @GratiaPrima_ Місяць тому +4

    Michael was NOT finna lose to a Protestant girl. Haha.

  • @jenniferramos7024
    @jenniferramos7024 Місяць тому

    The cowboy stadium??!!! 🤣 😂 you mean the ASTRODOME stadium/ Compaq center- that’s a slap to Houstonians 😅

  • @mrbiglicks8267
    @mrbiglicks8267 Місяць тому +3

    You should read that quad/tripple Knowles.

    • @ropearoni4
      @ropearoni4 Місяць тому

      The blueprint for our day.

  • @PatrickFlynn-ry6oj
    @PatrickFlynn-ry6oj 6 днів тому +1

    Why is this jagoffs channel coming up in my feed?

  • @KyrieEleison3
    @KyrieEleison3 Місяць тому +11

    A retraction for her attacks on Dr Ortlund would be nice.

    • @hismajesty6272
      @hismajesty6272 Місяць тому +1

      Agreed.

    • @vngelicath1580
      @vngelicath1580 Місяць тому

      As much as I love the DW crew, they don't care about nuance. They only care about "owning the libs" (whether their targets even really qualify as "libs" -- and certainly not giving any second thoughts to whether they might've just damaged someone's reputation unjustly).
      It's actually a very toxic and destructive social trait, especially for a group of people who are so against cancel culture. Furthermore, as a Christian herself, Megan is in direct, sinful violation of the 8th Commandment/Matthew 18, in bearing false witness against fellow Christians without first reaching out to them. By not pulling the book and at least redacting it, I would consider her in a state of unrepentant sin and therefore liable to excommunication.

  • @LetsGoKogi
    @LetsGoKogi Місяць тому +1

    St Augustine while great retracted many of his teachings , his issue was he only read Latin and lacked Greek

  • @LatterDaySigma
    @LatterDaySigma Місяць тому +7

    As a Mormon fan here, I absolute love all my Catholic brothers & sisters and they really do motivate & inspire me and many others

    • @hatehoes
      @hatehoes Місяць тому

      Look into the origins of Mormonism. Leave that cult and join the Catholic Church

    • @bikesrcool_1958
      @bikesrcool_1958 Місяць тому +7

      Just saying as a catholic I respect you and view many Mormons as kind people but I do not respect your prophet Joseph smith because I believe it’s detrimentally problematic the things he taught

    • @mrbiglicks8267
      @mrbiglicks8267 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@bikesrcool_1958well he taught the gospel of Jesus Christ so...

    • @hatehoes
      @hatehoes Місяць тому

      @@mrbiglicks8267 Mormonism claims Jesus isn’t even God. They claim he “became” God but isn’t God eternally. That is not the same as the true Jesus. Also Mormon’s believe that they will become gods and have their own glory too.. unbiblical

    • @SevereFamine
      @SevereFamine Місяць тому +4

      I’m a Catholic in Utah who prays for the conversion of LDS each day. Only God can open hearts and minds to the truth. I hope and pray you are saved from the error and deception you have fallen into. God bless you.

  • @Cardiacmoment
    @Cardiacmoment Місяць тому +1

    “Faith Off” ❤️

  • @sarathomas8499
    @sarathomas8499 Місяць тому +3

    ¡Qué Viva Cristo Rey!

  • @kathywright7395
    @kathywright7395 Місяць тому

    Love this

  • @damienmulder909
    @damienmulder909 Місяць тому +4

    Ask Knowles about grace through faith NOT OF WORKS. and point out James 1:1 is talking to jews only. checkmate, catholics.

    • @christafarion9
      @christafarion9 Місяць тому +3

      He doesn't believe it. It's too good of news for him to believe. He thinks Jesus is some kind of liar or something.

    • @atgred
      @atgred Місяць тому

      Forget “Saved by Faith Alone”! What about “Judged by Works?
      ‭‭Matthew‬ ‭16‬:‭27‬ “For the Son of man shall come in the glory of his Father with his angels; and then *he shall reward every man according to his works.”*
      ‭‭Romans‬ ‭2‬:‭5‬-‭6‬“But after thy hardness and impenitent heart treasurest up unto thyself wrath against the day of wrath and revelation of the righteous judgment of God; *Who will render to every man according to his deeds:”*
      2 Corinthians 5:10 For we must all appear before the judgment seat of Christ, so that each one may receive *according to what he has done* while he was in the body, whether good or bad.
      Revelation 20:12 And I saw the dead, great and small, standing before God; and the books were opened, and another book was opened, which is the book of life (Rev. 3:5); *and the dead were judged by the things that were written in the books, according to their works.*
      13 And the sea gave up the dead that were in it; and death and Hades gave up the dead that were in them; *and they were judged each according to his works.*

    • @G-MIP
      @G-MIP Місяць тому +7

      Catholic teaching for the ignorant…
      “If anyone says that a man can be justified before God by his own works, whether done by his own natural powers or through the teaching of the law, without divine grace through Jesus Christ, let him be anathema.”
      -Canon 1, Council of Trent

    • @G-MIP
      @G-MIP Місяць тому +4

      Bible verse for the ignorant…
      “What good is it, my brothers, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can that faith save him?” -James 2 NAB

    • @Catechuman23
      @Catechuman23 Місяць тому +2

      And James 2? C'mon

  • @mindibosco4387
    @mindibosco4387 Місяць тому +1

    Daniel Negreanu on poker. He is one of many libs who has stayed in place on his views and has lately been attacked as changing his views and becoming conservative because of how crazy the left has gone. He is well known, was even in an X-Men movie :), and has also been on several podcasts lately where he just says what he believes (much of which I disagree with, but maybe he'll come around). Does Michael play poker? This would make for a funny FACE-OFF since there is a ton of funny poker slang that Michael is likely unfamilar with.

  • @WinstonDave-p
    @WinstonDave-p Місяць тому +38

    Praise to God Almighty!!!!'m favoured, $140k every 3weeks! I can now give back to the locals in my community and also support God's work and the church. God bless America 🇺🇸❤️❤️❤️❤️

    • @CarolRish
      @CarolRish Місяць тому +2

      God bless you more abundantly for your generosity
      But then, what do you do? How do you come about that in that period?

    • @WinstonDave-p
      @WinstonDave-p Місяць тому +4

      It is the digital market. That's been the secret to this wealth transfer. A lot of folks in the US amd abroad are getting so much from it, God has been good to my household Thank you Jesus

    • @WinstonDave-p
      @WinstonDave-p Місяць тому +4

      Thanks to God, my daughter who introduced me into the digital market. Moreso, thanks to Ms *Kathleen Mary Vella*

    • @DanMyers-w3d
      @DanMyers-w3d Місяць тому +1

      Big thanks to Ms *Kathleen Mary Vella*

    • @JamesWilliams-w
      @JamesWilliams-w Місяць тому +2

      Her top notch guidance and expertise on digital market changed the game for me

  • @bilcarter
    @bilcarter Місяць тому

    Basilica of the National Shrine of the Immaculate Conception. Gorgeous church. I was ordained there. I'm surprised Michael missed that question.

  • @hismajesty6272
    @hismajesty6272 Місяць тому +46

    Reminder Basham falsely accused Gavin Ortlund of being a liberal sellout and has not apologized for her blatant slander.

    • @rickrudd
      @rickrudd Місяць тому +9

      I don't know about that noise, but she's a low key smokeshow.

    • @SevereFamine
      @SevereFamine Місяць тому +14

      Gavin is super dishonest himself.

    • @amichiganblackman3200
      @amichiganblackman3200 Місяць тому +13

      Wasn't false and wasnt slander. Did you read the book?

    • @Sm64wii
      @Sm64wii Місяць тому +7

      He is dishonest lol Ortlund is a really bad apologist for Protestantism.

    • @thespyer2k
      @thespyer2k Місяць тому +1

      While true, I don't think Gavin would want us anathematizing her whole-sale

  • @Ben_G_Biegler
    @Ben_G_Biegler Місяць тому

    Did you mean to say Athanasius 😂

  • @krizilloo2538
    @krizilloo2538 Місяць тому +3

    Megan needs to apologize to Dr. Gavin Ortlund, and remove him from her book.

  • @rodradcliff3491
    @rodradcliff3491 Місяць тому

    The black rock was for Baal worship , then adopted to Muslim faith. It's the worship in Baal

  • @MarDuBronx
    @MarDuBronx Місяць тому +39

    I thought this was gonna be Michael debunking Protestantism

    • @teutonicknight23
      @teutonicknight23 Місяць тому +23

      He needs to be debunking the pope after this week.

    • @jaxonjaxoff3291
      @jaxonjaxoff3291 Місяць тому +9

      I’ve got ninety-five problems with that

    • @Antonio_Serdar
      @Antonio_Serdar Місяць тому +19

      ​@@teutonicknight23
      Or maybe one of your 5 billion liberal pastors of the 9 billion denominations

    • @Thatoneguy-pu8ty
      @Thatoneguy-pu8ty Місяць тому +2

      When are you guys ever going to learn that infallibility unnecessarily requires an epistemological framework that demands one be normatively bound to an ecclesial structure without regard for reasonable scriptural and patristic objections?

    • @teutonicknight23
      @teutonicknight23 Місяць тому +12

      @@Antonio_Serdar it’s easy to debunk those you don’t like. Less so to debunk the leader of your own.
      I call out plenty of Protestant pastors.
      I see very few Catholics even willing to touch what the pope said this past week.
      And someone who falls into the dogma like Micheal, I doubt I’ll ever see him holding his own to account.

  • @sanjivjhangiani3243
    @sanjivjhangiani3243 Місяць тому

    St. Thomas WAS martyred near Madras. I have visited the site, known as the Great Mount .

  • @HarrisonTheGrey
    @HarrisonTheGrey Місяць тому +3

    Hey it’s that lady that misrepresents people for clicks and book sales.