Post burden change: we will use the buff we get after burden (glorious incandescence) the same as our 4 pc. Which means if you have Nether Precision/Clearcasting, get to 1 Nether Precision stack and then Blast + Barrage. If you dont have those buffs, just barrage. Sunfury ST: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAMzMtMLLzAAxGAAAAAAAYZGDmZmZGDzMGzMjZmZMMG Both AOE: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZxsZBzMmZWAGzYMNzsMzAAAAAAYAAzMTLz2yMAQsBAAAAAwGALzYYmZGDDzMzYmZMzMzMMG Spellslinger ST: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzMLLLzMxCAAAAAAAYZGDzMzMDDzMGzMjZmZmhxA For Sunfury's AOE rotation, you can do Spellslingers instead for more burst until we get into M+. The AOE rotation showcased focuses a bit more on priority and funnel than a full focused AOE rotation would, so its likely the meta around it might change. WAs: Clearcasting: wago.io/4ZeBsVQwc Arcane Soul: wago.io/EbZdRSaDq Nether Precision (Choose One): wago.io/search/imports/wow/all?q=Nether%20Precision Orb Barrage Helper: wago.io/ZnqOO2VgU
Thank you, the weak auras are key. As an M+ player, I think I am now leaning towards spellslinger. Is Sunfury overall better or just for raids/single target?
@@Manather what about the double dip? do we know if they accidently not change it or was it on purpose? Im playing as if nothing changed same rotation but is that good?
Thats because he has no clue about arcane mages :D :D So it looks simple :D Its not hard tho but you need to manage some thing he is not even aware of...
Dude is easily the best teacher when it comes to understanding any spec, dumbs it down so that new wow players can actually stand a chance with sweats. You a real one manather. Been following you since s1 Shadowlands and I always find my self looking for your mage updates as patches are released. The mage community is blessed to have you 👏
wow its crazy how its the same info and I understood literally fuck all from preheat but have a 70-80% mastery of it after I watch your video. You sir are the best mage guide writer out there. I managed to acheive over the course of dragonflight, starting as frost mage following you, going from 60% mythic parses to many world top 20s. Finished in the top 10 world frost mages based on IO in S4. I can say from experience following you is like following Jesus to heaven when it comes to mage. You're my hero. This expansion with the arcane changes Im willing to give it a try knowing I can fall back to the 99% frost mastery I now have. Thank you for all the work you do.
200% true, people are calling him out on it too , he talks so fast like he sniffed 4 lines right up the nose before doing a video too, like, chill dude, fuck
Best Arcane Mage guide so far. You really did a great job explaining all the buffs, the rotations etc. This video made me boot up World of Warcraft and try out the Sunfury rotation. Great job man!
Thank you so much man. Watching your guide comparatively to others allowed me to breathe. I feel like too many guidemakers are telling you arcane is easier now, but then explain it in a way to confuse you and to try and make them look smart. You are an astounding teacher, and I appreciate it.
This is way simpler than some of the other guides. I've not played mage since WotLK and was interested in checking out sunfury arcane, so this is very helpful. Starting off with the very basic idea of the rotation, almost like you were level 10 or something, was clarifying. If you look at the wowhead guide (which of course is written by an amazing player, who I'm sure is correct about everything in the guide), I feel like I can't even get started because it seems like you have to understand so much about the talents before you can even start casting. This is way more useful for a beginner arcane player, which I am.
Amazing guide. Your 10.2 Frost guide helped me go from a 15 yr break returning player mid S3 to a 3k+ M+ player by the end of S4. I was able to avoid forming many bad habits and focus my time on mastering the subtleties of the shatter interactions, AoE rotation, 2T cleave optimization, etc. All things I would not have discovered naturally for a very long time. I'm excited to now switch focus and master Arcane in S1 of this xpac. Eventually I'll become competent in all the mage specs and learn to use them to their full potential situationally. Thanks for taking the time to make this content!
Manather, I do not know you personally but I LOVE YOU! You make your guide so easy to understand and approachable that I actually learn how to play these specs! Thank you for what you do!
Can't thank you enough. I haven't played since the second tier of BFA, and mained Mage in Legion/BFA. Seemed a lot more confusing when I was watching other content creators explain the specs, so started leaning Warlock. After watching your guides, I feel a lot more comfortable picking Mage to get back into pushing keys and raiding. Keep up the good work!
I have dipped my toes into arcane in the past, but I also got scared off by all the moving parts. Thank you for helping to clear up a LOT of things for me! Great video, and I can't wait to put all the info into practice!
Ive had anxiety about switching from fire to arcane. This video explained the rotation better than any website I've found. I'm ready to level my 70 mage to arcane and do some excitimg endgame content
this was really helpful! I think i would really love a visualization of the spells cast. (like the details streamer input addon) especially with the things that aren't static, like barrage w blast (when missiles/orb charge refresh) since theyre instant spells. But really, only way ive learned arcane has been this vid, and referencing the vid when im reading . tyvm for the content
Why didn't I come here 2 days ago before I started studying arcane instead of going to some other dumbass Master Class PhD mage guide that doesnt realize how overcomplicated they're making this whole thing!! Thank you so much.
Thanks for the deep dive sir. I started trying out arcane like 2 weeks ago and every other spec has felt dull ever since :( TIP: For anyone who wants to get into arcane i also heavily recommend Luxthos' WA because it basically guides you through the rotation. AND what is pretty cool is that it shows you the extra damage your touch of the magi will do.
24:15 - Arcane orb generated from the keystone talent does not give an arcane charge upon "release", only when hitting enemies, so to get 4 charges back it needs to hit 4 targets. Regular orb does give arcane charge when cast. Minor detail, probably only matters in 3 target scenarios Great video as well, really helped me sort out the spell priority in my rotation :D
Yep, thats how orb barrage works. Poroms WA needs a load condition change ig, but it showcases you procced OB very early by check for that exact situation, gaining a charge before your charges are consumed post barrage.
Spellslinger arcane is the most fun I’ve ever had on mage, I hope it’s Brought in line with sunfury or sunfury is tuned down so it’s not the expected arcane spec.
Hi, i have one question do you: I have two stacks of Netherprecision and cast an Arcane Blast follow directly by an barrage (Double diping), but Both stacks are gone. So i dont understand this, why does the Double diping Not work with netherprecision?
Hey , great videos as always! Always really usefull. Next time could you use the addon where we can see the last few GCD used, that would make it a bit easier to follow the rotation I think! GG, continue with the great work.
very good purple transmog for more arcanist dps per second, please showcase more arcane transmog options depending on environment colors (at least one transmog per zone of TWW which matches the color palette of that zone please) thank you menther
hey mate, i only do 2 barrages @big burst (1st with surge+touch and the 2nd when touch is about to finish) and ofc i keep blasting + missiles the whole touch duration am i correct or i need to do barrage whenever 4 charges + nether pro @big burst ? am i losing that big dps ?
We do not barrage to end touch. Both spellslinger and sunfury barrage at specific points which is covered in the video, but spellslinger always does blast + blast + barrage after missiles. And sunfury does the standard blast blast missiles with a blast + barrage with the burden of power buff.
Since you can not use ab into barrage on 5 sphere stacks cuz it’s bugged or idk, do you just arcane blast the burden stack into barrage ( if you don’t have any nether precision ) ? And also is it true that if you have 2 NP stacks you straight barrage after missle on burden buff ( without AB )?
When we barrage -> touch of the magi, if you cast touch too late and your barrage hit the target before your cast it will say failed. Because you want to cast touch before barrage hits the target.
One question (sorry if i missed it): When i have burden up, but only 2 or less arcane charges. Do i arcane orb first and then blast -> barrage or do i just blast -> barrage?
So if I have 4 charges in spellslinger aoe situation, and have a CC, is it better to abarr first to dump charges and regain some with high voltage? Or instead use the CC first for NP, then be at 0 charges and have to do a few arcane explosions?
One qick question: If you have CC proc available, sometimes you blast - barrage - missiles and then buildup charges with CC. Sometime you use blast - missiles - blast - blast. Could you explain when to use what? I understood to always use barrage if you have 1 procc of NC and then buildup the charges with missiles again.
If its ST you are talking about, then with sunfury I am barraging with burden of power, never around nether precision. In aoe if you can recover charges you should blast + barrage on 1 nether precision stack -> missiles to recover charges.
What do I do in between pulls while the tank is running and collecting mobs, do i just spam barrage and missles if it procs?. Also when there's a entering new mob and I have no procs or charges, do I jsut move in and spam explosion?
Ensure that you performed the rotation properly the previous pull, including casting Shifting Power right after your Arcane Soul window, so that you're ready for another Arcane Surge or ToTM cooldown window when the mobs are all gathered up. If you're worried about your Clearcasting stacks falling off, spam either Blast or Barrage to try and proc another CC stack (Blast is preferable if you can use Ice Floes or stand still to cast it, as you will enter your next cooldown window with 4 Arcane Charges, rather than spending them with Barrage). If you have Evocate up and you think the tank will be done grouping mobs in the next ~5ish seconds so that you are ready for another Arcane Surge window, that will also give you a guaranteed CC stack. In general though, you won't have to worry about much awkward downtime. A tank 'collecting mobs' will happen significantly less often in M+ content, as the pulls are much lower mob count and harder than they are now in Heroics where people are pulling half the dungeon.
If barrage damage is calculated when it leaves the hand like the guide says, why do I want to blast blast barrage? Wont the 2 nether precision stacks be gone by that time, thus making the barrage weak and providing no additional splinters? Seems like that's not double dipping (blast/barrage) like the guide says. Also, what is the damage difference between blast blast missiles versus blast blast/barrage?
Nether precision persists for 0.15s after consumption, and since blast hits the target instantly your queued barrage still gains the damage buff since its present when its cast.
@@Manather thank you! I just read somewhere that this has been removed from the game, and replaced with a similar mechanic but just not exactly this anymore, just want to verify.
Could you explain why you did blast+barrage in the AOE opener at 37:11? I’m guessing this falls under the ‘Blast + Barrage when you have Nether Precision + Clearcasting’ priority but how did you not lose any arcane charges without burden of power?
You would’ve been left with no arcane charges if it didn’t proc though right? Is that ok because High Voltage will almost certainly build back the charges?
What do you do in the situation where you have less than 4 charges, arcane orb on CD, but you have a regular clear casting missles proc? Do you use the missiles even at low charges?
Doesnt effect the passive orb chance if thats what you are asking. My haste and mastery were quite low at the time of this video and are very different now, they dont really matter, just sim your gear.
As a new player, I am having trouble using knowing when to use barrage outside of Glorious Incand. It appears I'm not really supposed to be using it in AOE alot. How do you know when to do blast barrage outside of Glorious Incand? And what am I supposed to cast when Burden comes up (in aoe)?
Hi, I recently came back to the game and to my old main mage and your guides are absolutetly best for someone like me, thanks man ! I have one probably silly question, why is haste valueable in aoe for arcane mage ? Does our animations scale with haste or Am I missing something ?
Normally in ST haste means you go oom a lot faster, in AOE we spend a lot of time casting spells that dont cost as much mana and so haste has higher value. Rn haste is good regardless.
@@Manather What about glorious incandescence? Do the 4 arcane charges generated apply to the barrage used to consume it, or do i need get to 4 charges before consuming it?
where do you track the arcane charges on the weakaura? and is it a passive or something? as a new player this is very confusing but im tired of frost and being out ST dps by arcane mages and ret pally
I track them over my health bar with some arcaney circles. Hopefully the basics section of this video helps you learn arcane, at its core its very similar to most specs in wow with its filler rotation.
@@Manather thanks bro. you helped me learn frost and im starting to get arcane. i can do the rotation but i just wish i really understood more about when to cast what bases off what i have. like arcane charges or arcane soul window ending
@@Manather manather. its been a month of playing wow. im 1900 rating in m+ and i love arcane mage. do you know why i literally always run out of mana on ST? its like every single time i get unlucky w clearcasting procs and i just blast like 5 sometimes 6 times with no proc. do that 3 times and im oom. its so annoying
Do you hold Touch of the Magi until you have an arcane missiles proc in aoe? Or just hope that you’ll get one? Do arcane splinters generate clearcasting? Seems like you could potentially touch but then not get a middles before it’s up.
I'm really sorry and i know its a stupid question, but i just started WoW and am wondering what the best weapon and armour is for mages or where could I find out?
Generally people use sims to tell them what gear to aim for/equip. And the website for that is raidbots. I’d recommend watching a video on simming for wow as an introduction. If you are not max level you should ignore this advice till you are though. Mages wear cloth armor in all their slots, and then its just important that your gear has intellect on them, and that your weapon/trinkets do not have strength or agility.
It's a really good guide, and I'm able to follow most of it but I get lost in the actual rotation of when you're suppose to barrage instead of missile or vice versa or what specifically you're looking for when you use barrage? Do I use missiles every time I can when it procs?
If you dont have nether precision you should missiles. In ST as Sunfury we only ever barrage with either the Burden of Power buff (every 6 arcane blasts or barrage) and ideally we do a blast + barrage. And then when arcane surge ends we get a buff called arcane soul which basically makes barrage good so for the duration of that buff we use arcane barrage as much as possible (while not overcapping clearcasting).
At 31:50 your saying your haste is too low to get the burden+nether boosted barrage within the touch of magi window right? Why does casting the 2 blasts beforehand help you reach that goal? Is it simply because it’ll give you 2 fire spheres “early”?
Burden of Power happens every 6 arcane blasts or barrage, by blasting twice before bursting I made it so I only needed 4 in touch to reach burden. Realistically with lower haste what you would do is Pre-evocate -> arcane blast -> missiles -> surge -> touch and be fine. But this is only an issue for the next week or so.
Hello @manather, thank you for the video! I was wondering what the weakaura is called for the clearcasting countdown(duration) in the center of your screen. Is that the same weakaura for frost? Thank you!
In aoe, yes. My bad for only adding the aoe lines to the ST prio, technically blast with nether precision is below that missiles line. Which is why we end up overwriting it if we need charges.
Also, at 5:46 he stars with evo/blast/orb/missiles/surge but at 13:05 he starts with evo/missiles/surge. Which one is the correct way to open for spellslinger ?
Do we need to track Spellfire Sphere at all or no need for that? And for aoe, would it not be worth to missle here 37:41 and then go into touch with empowered blast barrage?
You can track the build up to burden buff if you want. Which is technically a sphere buff, but you dont need to track your other spheres. And yes I probably shouldve missiled there.
@@Manather Thanks so much for the answers and the detailed guide! Was playing it in HC and its actually super fun (if your target lives for some time at least)
Post burden change: we will use the buff we get after burden (glorious incandescence) the same as our 4 pc. Which means if you have Nether Precision/Clearcasting, get to 1 Nether Precision stack and then Blast + Barrage. If you dont have those buffs, just barrage.
Sunfury ST: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAMzMtMLLzAAxGAAAAAAAYZGDmZmZGDzMGzMjZmZMMG
Both AOE: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMjZxsZBzMmZWAGzYMNzsMzAAAAAAYAAzMTLz2yMAQsBAAAAAwGALzYYmZGDDzMzYmZMzMzMMG
Spellslinger ST: C4DAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYMMbzCmxMmFPAjZGGTzMmBAAAAAgBAABMzMLLLzMxCAAAAAAAYZGDzMzMDDzMGzMjZmZmhxA
For Sunfury's AOE rotation, you can do Spellslingers instead for more burst until we get into M+. The AOE rotation showcased focuses a bit more on priority and funnel than a full focused AOE rotation would, so its likely the meta around it might change.
WAs:
Clearcasting: wago.io/4ZeBsVQwc
Arcane Soul: wago.io/EbZdRSaDq
Nether Precision (Choose One): wago.io/search/imports/wow/all?q=Nether%20Precision
Orb Barrage Helper: wago.io/ZnqOO2VgU
Thank you, the weak auras are key. As an M+ player, I think I am now leaning towards spellslinger. Is Sunfury overall better or just for raids/single target?
@@NBCatch22 its overall better
@@Manather even after the changes from yesterday? I'm guessing that's what you are addressing in your edit but just checking
@@kernel98 yes, it barely got nerfed compared to how ahead it is
@@Manather what about the double dip? do we know if they accidently not change it or was it on purpose? Im playing as if nothing changed same rotation but is that good?
this is the first Guide, where i feel like i don't need a PhD in Rocket-Engineering when playing arcane mage, thanks Manather! ^^
Totally agree, appreciate the simplicity
Thats because he has no clue about arcane mages :D :D So it looks simple :D Its not hard tho but you need to manage some thing he is not even aware of...
@@martinblahut5653 can you provide some context? What wasn't talked about in the video?
Blast blast blast blast blast blast missiles, mkayy 😂
Dude is easily the best teacher when it comes to understanding any spec, dumbs it down so that new wow players can actually stand a chance with sweats. You a real one manather. Been following you since s1 Shadowlands and I always find my self looking for your mage updates as patches are released. The mage community is blessed to have you 👏
? By watching this video, you just called Manather a sweat lmao. It’s not a crime to be good at something.
@@kingd1486 ❄
by far the most clear and concise guide I've come across for this spec, thank you Manather!
wow its crazy how its the same info and I understood literally fuck all from preheat but have a 70-80% mastery of it after I watch your video. You sir are the best mage guide writer out there. I managed to acheive over the course of dragonflight, starting as frost mage following you, going from 60% mythic parses to many world top 20s. Finished in the top 10 world frost mages based on IO in S4. I can say from experience following you is like following Jesus to heaven when it comes to mage. You're my hero. This expansion with the arcane changes Im willing to give it a try knowing I can fall back to the 99% frost mastery I now have. Thank you for all the work you do.
preheat issued a cease and desist to someone for having a similar twitch username, the guy is a professional S tier grifter🦧
preheat is super bad at explaining anything. He could make boomkin rotation sound like rocket science
Holy MOLY bro is on meat 😭
@@JorgeGonzalez-rj8ok😂😂 he ain’t wrong tho
200% true, people are calling him out on it too , he talks so fast like he sniffed 4 lines right up the nose before doing a video too, like, chill dude, fuck
Brother. I came from Classic, trying to learn all this. You easily have the best guides out there. Thank you!
This shit makes me feel old bro! Not gonna lie. Arcane is intimidating. Are you picking it up ok?
Yeah, easily after this guide. @@bmcash09
Best Arcane Mage guide so far. You really did a great job explaining all the buffs, the rotations etc. This video made me boot up World of Warcraft and try out the Sunfury rotation. Great job man!
Thank you so much man. Watching your guide comparatively to others allowed me to breathe. I feel like too many guidemakers are telling you arcane is easier now, but then explain it in a way to confuse you and to try and make them look smart. You are an astounding teacher, and I appreciate it.
Dude. Hats off, finally a guide I understand. And I havnt even played mage yet, like ever. Its gonna be fun getting into this class.
This is way simpler than some of the other guides. I've not played mage since WotLK and was interested in checking out sunfury arcane, so this is very helpful. Starting off with the very basic idea of the rotation, almost like you were level 10 or something, was clarifying. If you look at the wowhead guide (which of course is written by an amazing player, who I'm sure is correct about everything in the guide), I feel like I can't even get started because it seems like you have to understand so much about the talents before you can even start casting. This is way more useful for a beginner arcane player, which I am.
Amazing guide. Your 10.2 Frost guide helped me go from a 15 yr break returning player mid S3 to a 3k+ M+ player by the end of S4. I was able to avoid forming many bad habits and focus my time on mastering the subtleties of the shatter interactions, AoE rotation, 2T cleave optimization, etc. All things I would not have discovered naturally for a very long time.
I'm excited to now switch focus and master Arcane in S1 of this xpac. Eventually I'll become competent in all the mage specs and learn to use them to their full potential situationally.
Thanks for taking the time to make this content!
Dang perfect timing. On my 45 minute break and a 45min-ish video
Manather, I do not know you personally but I LOVE YOU! You make your guide so easy to understand and approachable that I actually learn how to play these specs! Thank you for what you do!
Can't thank you enough. I haven't played since the second tier of BFA, and mained Mage in Legion/BFA. Seemed a lot more confusing when I was watching other content creators explain the specs, so started leaning Warlock. After watching your guides, I feel a lot more comfortable picking Mage to get back into pushing keys and raiding. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for your guides always loved your frost ones glad u made an arcane one
This is the most clear guide ive found. Thanks so much. Looking forward to seeing more
you explain so well, a pleasure to watch your guides and streams
Only took a 43 minute long video to feel better about arcane. Totally worth it! Thank you!
I have dipped my toes into arcane in the past, but I also got scared off by all the moving parts. Thank you for helping to clear up a LOT of things for me! Great video, and I can't wait to put all the info into practice!
Absolute banger of a guide. THANK YOU.
Thanks man. You're a talented educator.
Ty man, love your way of explaining things
Been waiting for this . Miss playing with you in Beekeepers (bowjangels)
I would have latin honors back in college if my professors were as good as this guy in explaining things.
Ive had anxiety about switching from fire to arcane. This video explained the rotation better than any website I've found. I'm ready to level my 70 mage to arcane and do some excitimg endgame content
Thank you after watching this I actually started living through fights
I’ve been waiting for your guide. Other creators can’t explain it as well as you do
Thank you @Manather for explaining it on such a nice level that even a non english mage noob can follow along and understand.
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this was really helpful! I think i would really love a visualization of the spells cast. (like the details streamer input addon) especially with the things that aren't static, like barrage w blast (when missiles/orb charge refresh) since theyre instant spells. But really, only way ive learned arcane has been this vid, and referencing the vid when im reading . tyvm for the content
Yeah my details streamer addon gets disabled randomly and i just end up forgetting about it. I'll enable it again.
Yo this is the exact guide i was waiting for. Been searching for the last few days. Thanks.
I was hoping that you'd come out with this! Thanks Manather, great vid as always
Thank you so much for this guide! Makes so much sense and I actually feel I can give it a go
Always the best guides man, thanks for posting.
Why didn't I come here 2 days ago before I started studying arcane instead of going to some other dumbass Master Class PhD mage guide that doesnt realize how overcomplicated they're making this whole thing!! Thank you so much.
Thanks for the deep dive sir. I started trying out arcane like 2 weeks ago and every other spec has felt dull ever since :(
TIP: For anyone who wants to get into arcane i also heavily recommend Luxthos' WA because it basically guides you through the rotation.
AND what is pretty cool is that it shows you the extra damage your touch of the magi will do.
I finally see the problem I was having, I was too focused on using my charges on arcane barrage!
Great guide as always, thanks!
hey Manather Thx a lot for the vid !!
24:15 - Arcane orb generated from the keystone talent does not give an arcane charge upon "release", only when hitting enemies, so to get 4 charges back it needs to hit 4 targets. Regular orb does give arcane charge when cast.
Minor detail, probably only matters in 3 target scenarios
Great video as well, really helped me sort out the spell priority in my rotation :D
Yep, thats how orb barrage works. Poroms WA needs a load condition change ig, but it showcases you procced OB very early by check for that exact situation, gaining a charge before your charges are consumed post barrage.
Loved this guide, one thing i would request is a spell order weak aura when youre recording just so we can see the spell queue. (:
Spellslinger arcane is the most fun I’ve ever had on mage, I hope it’s
Brought in line with sunfury or sunfury is tuned down so it’s not the expected arcane spec.
Amazing video, thank you!
nice guide bro, was looking for sth like this, since on icy veins it sounds way more complicatet :D
Great video/guide! 10/10 🤩
Hi, i have one question do you:
I have two stacks of Netherprecision and cast an Arcane Blast follow directly by an barrage (Double diping), but Both stacks are gone.
So i dont understand this, why does the Double diping Not work with netherprecision?
Thank you for the guide!
Great video. Is fire mage coming next? I would love it
Hey , great videos as always! Always really usefull.
Next time could you use the addon where we can see the last few GCD used, that would make it a bit easier to follow the rotation I think!
GG, continue with the great work.
yeah, always forget that the details one goes away sometimes. I'll re-add it for future videos.
Damn actually understood it lol, thanks!
very good purple transmog for more arcanist dps per second, please showcase more arcane transmog options depending on environment colors (at least one transmog per zone of TWW which matches the color palette of that zone please)
thank you menther
Great work as always.
hey mate, i only do 2 barrages @big burst (1st with surge+touch and the 2nd when touch is about to finish) and ofc i keep blasting + missiles the whole touch duration am i correct or i need to do barrage whenever 4 charges + nether pro @big burst ? am i losing that big dps ?
We do not barrage to end touch. Both spellslinger and sunfury barrage at specific points which is covered in the video, but spellslinger always does blast + blast + barrage after missiles. And sunfury does the standard blast blast missiles with a blast + barrage with the burden of power buff.
what does the green side bars mean on the sunfury wa
love your guides! for me, the details spelltracking or something simular would make it a little bit more easily to follow
Thanks for the reminder ig it got disabled somehow.
Manather has happy cheer in his voice in this video compared to the frost video.
awesome! thanks and keep it up!
Since you can not use ab into barrage on 5 sphere stacks cuz it’s bugged or idk, do you just arcane blast the burden stack into barrage ( if you don’t have any nether precision ) ? And also is it true that if you have 2 NP stacks you straight barrage after missle on burden buff ( without AB )?
Yes and yes
what is the arcane barrage ok thing on the weak aura? mine is saying failed, so i'm doing something wrong but unsure what.
When we barrage -> touch of the magi, if you cast touch too late and your barrage hit the target before your cast it will say failed. Because you want to cast touch before barrage hits the target.
@@Manather legend thank you sir
One question (sorry if i missed it): When i have burden up, but only 2 or less arcane charges. Do i arcane orb first and then blast -> barrage or do i just blast -> barrage?
orb first
So if I have 4 charges in spellslinger aoe situation, and have a CC, is it better to abarr first to dump charges and regain some with high voltage? Or instead use the CC first for NP, then be at 0 charges and have to do a few arcane explosions?
How do you turn off the in game pink bars to the left and right of my character so its not overlapping with the ones you have in the WA?
Search for spell opacity in interface and turn it to 0. This effects all characters though.
@@Manather My hero! Thank you!!!
One qick question: If you have CC proc available, sometimes you blast - barrage - missiles and then buildup charges with CC. Sometime you use blast - missiles - blast - blast.
Could you explain when to use what? I understood to always use barrage if you have 1 procc of NC and then buildup the charges with missiles again.
If its ST you are talking about, then with sunfury I am barraging with burden of power, never around nether precision. In aoe if you can recover charges you should blast + barrage on 1 nether precision stack -> missiles to recover charges.
What do I do in between pulls while the tank is running and collecting mobs, do i just spam barrage and missles if it procs?. Also when there's a entering new mob and I have no procs or charges, do I jsut move in and spam explosion?
Ensure that you performed the rotation properly the previous pull, including casting Shifting Power right after your Arcane Soul window, so that you're ready for another Arcane Surge or ToTM cooldown window when the mobs are all gathered up. If you're worried about your Clearcasting stacks falling off, spam either Blast or Barrage to try and proc another CC stack (Blast is preferable if you can use Ice Floes or stand still to cast it, as you will enter your next cooldown window with 4 Arcane Charges, rather than spending them with Barrage). If you have Evocate up and you think the tank will be done grouping mobs in the next ~5ish seconds so that you are ready for another Arcane Surge window, that will also give you a guaranteed CC stack.
In general though, you won't have to worry about much awkward downtime. A tank 'collecting mobs' will happen significantly less often in M+ content, as the pulls are much lower mob count and harder than they are now in Heroics where people are pulling half the dungeon.
Awesome guide! Just a question, how do you track the big cooldowns like evocation and surge? Is it just by looking at the spell icons?
Personally, yes. But you can do it however you want. Easy to make some giant text pop up on your screen saying “evo into surge now”.
@@Manather Thanks, made a simple WA for it
If barrage damage is calculated when it leaves the hand like the guide says, why do I want to blast blast barrage? Wont the 2 nether precision stacks be gone by that time, thus making the barrage weak and providing no additional splinters? Seems like that's not double dipping (blast/barrage) like the guide says. Also, what is the damage difference between blast blast missiles versus blast blast/barrage?
Nether precision persists for 0.15s after consumption, and since blast hits the target instantly your queued barrage still gains the damage buff since its present when its cast.
@@Manather thank you! I just read somewhere that this has been removed from the game, and replaced with a similar mechanic but just not exactly this anymore, just want to verify.
Could you explain why you did blast+barrage in the AOE opener at 37:11? I’m guessing this falls under the ‘Blast + Barrage when you have Nether Precision + Clearcasting’ priority but how did you not lose any arcane charges without burden of power?
Orb barrage procced, you can see the orb the second later
You would’ve been left with no arcane charges if it didn’t proc though right? Is that ok because High Voltage will almost certainly build back the charges?
@@yellowu its ok because in aoe you blast+barrage on 1 NP stack if you have clearcasting or orb up to rebuild charges.
What do you do in the situation where you have less than 4 charges, arcane orb on CD, but you have a regular clear casting missles proc? Do you use the missiles even at low charges?
yes
Manather would be the best Kindergarten Algebra teacher of all time
Did used to tutor kindergarten children on math in high school lol
@@Manather
Love the vids ! Great guide but I think a cool diagram with the spell icons would be sm better than a .txt !
what is your elvui code for your Arcane mage? I only see a video for frost and even then the code does not work.
I dont use elvui, its a combination of addons which you can find import links for my profiles in the pastebin in the description.
Hey what do i do if i get a burden of power proc while im already casting arcane blast? do i still press barrage after? or cancel blast
Barrage after
The guide is #1!
I may have a question tho, what is your haste/mastery %?
Is that affecting the passive orb after barrage or any other spells?
Doesnt effect the passive orb chance if thats what you are asking. My haste and mastery were quite low at the time of this video and are very different now, they dont really matter, just sim your gear.
What should you do if you have intuition but no nether precision(or missiles)?
Use blast till you get missiles
As a new player, I am having trouble using knowing when to use barrage outside of Glorious Incand. It appears I'm not really supposed to be using it in AOE alot. How do you know when to do blast barrage outside of Glorious Incand? And what am I supposed to cast when Burden comes up (in aoe)?
In aoe you blast + barrage on 1 nether precision if you have a way to recover charges. When Burden comes up you press barrage.
Hi, I recently came back to the game and to my old main mage and your guides are absolutetly best for someone like me, thanks man !
I have one probably silly question, why is haste valueable in aoe for arcane mage ? Does our animations scale with haste or Am I missing something ?
Normally in ST haste means you go oom a lot faster, in AOE we spend a lot of time casting spells that dont cost as much mana and so haste has higher value. Rn haste is good regardless.
@@Manather ah, so more haste more spells without the burden of mana management in aoe, got that, thank you for the response
How do you proc the "Big Ones" missles? Where it hits everyone?
every 4th missiles cast
Great guide. What addon do you use for spell timers
NVM I got the blade thing. Should I get to 4 arcane charges before barrage when burden of power is up or do I just send it?
If burden procs and you arent at 4 charges then theres no way to get there unless you are in M+ spec. Ideally yes.
@@Manather What about glorious incandescence? Do the 4 arcane charges generated apply to the barrage used to consume it, or do i need get to 4 charges before consuming it?
where do you track the arcane charges on the weakaura? and is it a passive or something? as a new player this is very confusing but im tired of frost and being out ST dps by arcane mages and ret pally
I track them over my health bar with some arcaney circles. Hopefully the basics section of this video helps you learn arcane, at its core its very similar to most specs in wow with its filler rotation.
@@Manather thanks bro. you helped me learn frost and im starting to get arcane. i can do the rotation but i just wish i really understood more about when to cast what bases off what i have. like arcane charges or arcane soul window ending
@@Manather manather. its been a month of playing wow. im 1900 rating in m+ and i love arcane mage. do you know why i literally always run out of mana on ST? its like every single time i get unlucky w clearcasting procs and i just blast like 5 sometimes 6 times with no proc. do that 3 times and im oom. its so annoying
Do you hold Touch of the Magi until you have an arcane missiles proc in aoe? Or just hope that you’ll get one? Do arcane splinters generate clearcasting? Seems like you could potentially touch but then not get a middles before it’s up.
Dont hold touch. Splinters dont generate CC. Hope you get a cc during touch, its very unlikely you wont.
@@Manather thanks much appreciated! Spellslinger arcane is so fun and this guide is goated!
what stat prio you recomend for spellslinger? think it might be haste verse but they lower splinter damage sooo much now
Haste > crit, but just sim your characters as the only reliable way
Hi, with today's patch notes do you think Spellslinger is better than Sunfury now?
Nope. This is approximately a 4% nerf, that might be improved by some rotation changes the simcrafters are working on.
I'm really sorry and i know its a stupid question, but i just started WoW and am wondering what the best weapon and armour is for mages or where could I find out?
Generally people use sims to tell them what gear to aim for/equip. And the website for that is raidbots. I’d recommend watching a video on simming for wow as an introduction. If you are not max level you should ignore this advice till you are though. Mages wear cloth armor in all their slots, and then its just important that your gear has intellect on them, and that your weapon/trinkets do not have strength or agility.
@@Manather Thank you so much, I appreciate the response and you make some really amazing guides!
what changes with the Burden of Power not being able to DD anymore? any changes?
Things will change, what exactly is still TBD.
It's a really good guide, and I'm able to follow most of it but I get lost in the actual rotation of when you're suppose to barrage instead of missile or vice versa or what specifically you're looking for when you use barrage? Do I use missiles every time I can when it procs?
If you dont have nether precision you should missiles. In ST as Sunfury we only ever barrage with either the Burden of Power buff (every 6 arcane blasts or barrage) and ideally we do a blast + barrage. And then when arcane surge ends we get a buff called arcane soul which basically makes barrage good so for the duration of that buff we use arcane barrage as much as possible (while not overcapping clearcasting).
@@Manather ah, I see now lol this is what I needed :) however they are gonna nerf it now D:
@@daidrelyt its barely a nerf with how far ahead arcane is, 3% and they are ahead 20.
At 31:50 your saying your haste is too low to get the burden+nether boosted barrage within the touch of magi window right? Why does casting the 2 blasts beforehand help you reach that goal? Is it simply because it’ll give you 2 fire spheres “early”?
Burden of Power happens every 6 arcane blasts or barrage, by blasting twice before bursting I made it so I only needed 4 in touch to reach burden. Realistically with lower haste what you would do is Pre-evocate -> arcane blast -> missiles -> surge -> touch and be fine. But this is only an issue for the next week or so.
@@Manather i see, thanks for the speedy reply! The issue will be resolved by better gear with higher haste is what your implying right
@@iz6956 yes
i dont understand when using barrage in st and aoe with sunfury ?
Guess I’ll use this to play my mage again. What’s that add-on that shows you stats on the far left of your UI?
Thanks.
wago.io/NyLsOPQ4z
@@Manather thank you for the link.
Ok now it seems possible to learn war within arcane, i really do hope they end up buffing fire tho
Hello @manather, thank you for the video! I was wondering what the weakaura is called for the clearcasting countdown(duration) in the center of your screen. Is that the same weakaura for frost?
Thank you!
Its this WA:
Clearcasting: wago.io/4ZeBsVQwc
In terms of the countdown specifically, its just a display you can add to any WA, %p probably.
@@Manather thank you, do you also know the one for frost perhaps?
@@RJDBXD I don't have it separated on hand, but you can extract the group from my WA package if you'd like.
@@Manatherwhere can I find your wa package? Also I still don’t really know what you use the orbs for that float behind you (the Spellfire spheres)
@@alexggist its in the description. I dont currently track those orbs.
32:06 I'm confused, you had 4 charges the whole time?
at 39:52 u do double missiles to regain the 4 charges faster, is it worth to waste the nether precision stacks?
In aoe, yes. My bad for only adding the aoe lines to the ST prio, technically blast with nether precision is below that missiles line. Which is why we end up overwriting it if we need charges.
Also, at 5:46 he stars with evo/blast/orb/missiles/surge but at 13:05 he starts with evo/missiles/surge. Which one is the correct way to open for spellslinger ?
2nd, 5:46 was pre-hero talents
@@Manather Thank you sir!! You are awesome!
Is canceling Missiles really a benefit to Dps for nether precision even though missiles does really good damage even without attunement up?
Yes, significantly so, missiles isnt good damage without attunement up.
Hey! Loved your guide-
Any significant changes you'd add after the nerf to Arcane Soul and the clipping nerf on Burden of Power?
Well now we just consume burden with blast and blast + barrage on the next 1 stack of NP after consuming it. Because of glorious incandesence.
@@Manather Just to clarify, we want to use the barrage WITHOUT a stack of NP, right?
@@slimdilly123 You want to double dip NP on 1 stack instead of burden of power now with glorious incandescence.
on the Arcane soul proc after the surge, we should just spam it or we need to use arcane missiles if we get to the 3 stacks of cc?
need to missiles if we get 3 stacks of cc, just always ensure last gcd of soul is barrage
Do we need to track Spellfire Sphere at all or no need for that?
And for aoe, would it not be worth to missle here 37:41 and then go into touch with empowered blast barrage?
You can track the build up to burden buff if you want. Which is technically a sphere buff, but you dont need to track your other spheres. And yes I probably shouldve missiled there.
@@Manather Thanks so much for the answers and the detailed guide! Was playing it in HC and its actually super fun (if your target lives for some time at least)
cool guide. came from preheat video. thank you!
Honestly I find spellslinger much more fun than sunfury and more visually appealing.