GoPowerSports is your friend! I’m not sure how much more you want to mess with it, but a modest cam, billet connecting rod and some heavier valve springs along with a high-flow carb and exhaust will let you turn it up to about 7000-9000 RPM and double the horsepower while making it stronger with the billet rod since the forced oil pickup scoop is WAY better designed. For like $500, you can have quite the little beast of a tractor.
I think I'm just as excited as you are, who would have ever thought. Absolutely love your vids. Looking for a B myself but want an 8hp. Thanks for keeping us entertained and enlightened.
I wonder how she look with the skins and the tank on ? Might help protect the motor from weather. Really great to see old farm equipment brought back to life!
So curiosity question if you put some rotational weight on the pto shaft would it help carry the bush hog through bigger stuff or would it hurt more than helping
On my rig it a 1958 case 700 there is two inputs one to drive the wheels and one for pto the one for the PTO does not turn no matter how much power you put to it
Can you imagine what the next size up would do. Really awesome but I love those old low compression motors. They have such a cool sound and they seem like they were made to do more work even if they didn't..
That’s really cool 😎 I was amazed that the steering wheel still has original paint on but all kidding aside that is so cool that you engineered that well done Sir!
Cool part is. The way you setup the “line shaft” for the belt drive clutch. If you wanted to you could add another motor or two. Or a bigger one easy enough.
I bet that would work better with an 8hp Predator engine. Compared to your 6.5 hp Predator, the 8 hp engine has 42% more displacement and 84% higher peak torque. That's work that you can get done faster and easier, and it only costs you an extra $50 over your 6.5 hp engine. I'd say it's worth looking into, if you create another one of these "Predator Tractor's". As always, enjoy the videos. Thanks for posting this one. -b
Hey there, I'm inspired by your allis chalmers b build that I decided do one similar just with a wd, what pulley set up should I use for running a 212 on something in that size, thank you
They make a brush cutter that runs off of a small motor to tow behind ATVs. Not much difference. My 27hp Kohler Command can cut 72” wide and saplings up to an inch diameter.
Stick a used 2.5 4-cylinder Jeep motor on it. You can get one for about $300-$400 from a Jeep junkyard. Or an Iron Duke 4-Cylinder. Or the 2.3 that came in Ford Mustangs, Rangers, Escorts, etc.
You could take that front flywheel cover off. Find another engine like it and attach the crank shaft to the flywheel of the other engine. Time it so it runs smooth and you should be golden
Hi, friend Good thing it works !!!!! But ... I think this time you are at the limit ... From what I see, a lawn mower moves with that power (I use it in my garden) with a 22-inch wide blade and manual push .... You ask him to cut something like 80 inches wide, at lower revs, and also to pull the tractor. I think it is a guarantee for disaster, because the engine must go to the limit and that would complicate its duration, that is, its useful life. On the other hand, it has cut only a few isolated and sparse patches of grass, I have seen those machines work on the edge of rural roads and there they attack dense grasses and more than 50 inches high ... So, it seems to me I couldn't connect a tool that needs speed, because speed always demands excess power. On the other hand, I think that you can connect a plow to it, because the speed does not matter there, the tool is static, and by lowering the forward speed enough, you can move any plow, or heavy load transport ... This is what I am preparing, in a CASE tractor, from the year 1940 or 50, that worked with gasoline, and whose engine is more than dead. Ugh ... I think that more than a comment, something similar to a heavy criticism came out ..... I hope that Mr. Google's translation is clear enough so that it is understood that I am passionate about the subject. . . . ok, that's enough, I always have the longest comments, and this time I went for the record ... hahaha My regards to all three !!!
You and me both are surprised. I was dying to see this, thanks so much for filming this.
youre welcome glad you liked it
Really liked it. My friend has a b he turned the axles over and made a lowrider so he could Cruise the tractor shows lots of fun.
GoPowerSports is your friend! I’m not sure how much more you want to mess with it, but a modest cam, billet connecting rod and some heavier valve springs along with a high-flow carb and exhaust will let you turn it up to about 7000-9000 RPM and double the horsepower while making it stronger with the billet rod since the forced oil pickup scoop is WAY better designed. For like $500, you can have quite the little beast of a tractor.
I’d spend the money on a 420 first.
Flywheel effect of blades and drive shaft helped . Going through a long patch will be harder…
I think I'm just as excited as you are, who would have ever thought. Absolutely love your vids. Looking for a B myself but want an 8hp.
Thanks for keeping us entertained and enlightened.
youre quite welcome
I wonder how she look with the skins and the tank on ? Might help protect the motor from weather. Really great to see old farm equipment brought back to life!
it will look nice i have all the skins laying in the shop ready to be put back on soon as i get all the bugs worked out
A great video brother how sharp is your blade sharper blades means less horsepower to cut tall grass
i agree but typical brush hog they are dull i will eventually sharpen them
So curiosity question if you put some rotational weight on the pto shaft would it help carry the bush hog through bigger stuff or would it hurt more than helping
it would hurt
I wonder if a custom lighter weight blade would help on mower performance?
maybe but the goal is to do everything on the cheap i thin 13hp running 3 to 1 gear ratio would work perfect and have power left over
On my rig the PTO is seized or jammed or something inside or I would be doing the same
wont turn or wont engage
On my rig it a 1958 case 700 there is two inputs one to drive the wheels and one for pto the one for the PTO does not turn no matter how much power you put to it
Maybe some more RPMs like you said but looks like it worked well
so far its ok need to do some improving but at least it did cut some grass
Wow! Well done sir! I never would've believed that motor could've powered that hog through Johnson grass. Very impressive 👍🏼
thanks
The allis chalmers B actually is a 560 pto
Don't know why , maybe wasn't standardized back in the day
I don't think 20 rpm will make any difference
Can you imagine what the next size up would do. Really awesome but I love those old low compression motors. They have such a cool sound and they seem like they were made to do more work even if they didn't..
yes i can i am getting ready to do some builds with bigger motors
@@Farmscrap1183 Very cool my friend. I am looking forward to them.
That’s really cool 😎 I was amazed that the steering wheel still has original paint on but all kidding aside that is so cool that you engineered that well done Sir!
thanks
Cool part is. The way you setup the “line shaft” for the belt drive clutch. If you wanted to you could add another motor or two. Or a bigger one easy enough.
Great point!
I'm impressed, but there is a considerable wobble in the PTO shaft. I'm sure you've already noticed that.
Awesome, I love how excited you were when it worked! I was too!!😂👍
it was exciting
Will you show a video of pushing it’s limits bushhoging
Already have go through the channel have several videos posted
If you could do it again but use the 420 instead of the 212 would you? I guess that would put it back to about it's original factory hp wouldn't it?
yes i would it would work better for the pto but it has plenty of pulling power with 212
I just thought of this. Would the engine run faster if you bypass the governor for faster pto speed
yes but it would also blow up after awhile that is why you got to find that happy sweet spot where it can be run all day long
I have a 13 horse predator on my wheel horse pulling tractor and the RPM range is totally adjustable on that sucker and it will scream
I bet that would work better with an 8hp Predator engine.
Compared to your 6.5 hp Predator, the 8 hp engine has 42% more displacement and 84% higher peak torque.
That's work that you can get done faster and easier, and it only costs you an extra $50 over your 6.5 hp engine.
I'd say it's worth looking into, if you create another one of these "Predator Tractor's".
As always, enjoy the videos. Thanks for posting this one. -b
thanks for watching might be something to think about
Thank you!
You're welcome!
Hey there, I'm inspired by your allis chalmers b build that I decided do one similar just with a wd, what pulley set up should I use for running a 212 on something in that size, thank you
i am running 4 to 1 on this tractor
Hello from Detroit Michigan brother thank you for sharing your knowledge and expertise now let's see the show 😀
youre welcome
A 600 might have a little more kick
true story
They make a brush cutter that runs off of a small motor to tow behind ATVs. Not much difference. My 27hp Kohler Command can cut 72” wide and saplings up to an inch diameter.
Stick a used 2.5 4-cylinder Jeep motor on it. You can get one for about $300-$400 from a Jeep junkyard. Or an Iron Duke 4-Cylinder. Or the 2.3 that came in Ford Mustangs, Rangers, Escorts, etc.
That is totally incredible I like it good old ingenuity I am so glad to see that brush hog work and that's some pretty tough grass👍👍👍👍👍✌✌✌✌😎😎😎
thanks
WOW! Was that done at idle? Love watching!!!
no it was revved up just not very loud
You could take that front flywheel cover off. Find another engine like it and attach the crank shaft to the flywheel of the other engine. Time it so it runs smooth and you should be golden
That was very interesting. Thanks...Now I would love to see like a 16hp Vanguard on it.😮
as soon as you donate one i will put it on
Needs a little more RPM and a heavy flywheel added.
Hi, friend
Good thing it works !!!!!
But ... I think this time you are at the limit ...
From what I see, a lawn mower moves with that power (I use it in my garden) with a 22-inch wide blade and manual push ....
You ask him to cut something like 80 inches wide, at lower revs, and also to pull the tractor.
I think it is a guarantee for disaster, because the engine must go to the limit and that would complicate its duration, that is, its useful life.
On the other hand, it has cut only a few isolated and sparse patches of grass, I have seen those machines work on the edge of rural roads and there they attack dense grasses and more than 50 inches high ...
So, it seems to me I couldn't connect a tool that needs speed, because speed always demands excess power.
On the other hand, I think that you can connect a plow to it, because the speed does not matter there, the tool is static, and by lowering the forward speed enough, you can move any plow, or heavy load transport ...
This is what I am preparing, in a CASE tractor, from the year 1940 or 50, that worked with gasoline, and whose engine is more than dead.
Ugh ... I think that more than a comment, something similar to a heavy criticism came out ..... I hope that Mr. Google's translation is clear enough so that it is understood that I am passionate about the subject. . . .
ok, that's enough, I always have the longest comments, and this time I went for the record ... hahaha
My regards to all three !!!
understood fine i agree though i think a 13hp running a 3 to 1 gear ratio would be perfect with power to spare from the way it felt
Very cool I like it
Put a 459 or something bigger on it and I bet it will get it cut much better, but I love the video.
thanks
Another great video
thanks
Not bad, maybe a little more hp and some front weights
yes always room for improvement
That is surprising
it really was
That is just awesome
Supplies it can do that with a 212cc I would say a 420 at least to run that full power in Long Grass
yes that is what i am thinking also
I have a 340cc Honda on mine sometimes it's not enough power in high gear but it a way better than yours around 8000 lb with liquid in the tires
Try a torque converter with a hurcules clutch. go power sports
That is a wast of a good old Allis Chalmers model b with out the original engine in it
Its not going to handle any load
You would be surprised what it can do I was
love it.....
If this works imma be shocked , then I may go shopping . 🤞
You shouldnt grind it into gear like that
in a perfect world
Sharpen those blades and go with 24 horse v twin ....maybe ...