Hoya tour 2023: See my collection of over 350 hoyas in one room | Episode 1

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  • Опубліковано 7 жов 2023
  • Welcome to the long-requested and long-awaited Hoya tour. We will call this the 2023 edition (as if there are other editions!). I know I have been putting off this hoya tour for the longest time and to be frank, I was dreading filming all of them! But, now you get to see them all, in all their various states.
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КОМЕНТАРІ • 156

  • @Dieppaloveplants
    @Dieppaloveplants 9 місяців тому +38

    I will love a 4 hour videos❤❤❤❤❤

  • @beeng77
    @beeng77 9 місяців тому +14

    This is how I die, out of happiness. A hoya tour and especially from Miro’s collection its a big woop woop!!!!

  • @tessie7e777
    @tessie7e777 9 місяців тому +6

    I was staring at that tendril the first whole minute. Lol! 😂

    • @PetraEmmy
      @PetraEmmy 9 місяців тому

      Me too!! I wasn't sure,at first, what it was 😂😂😂

  • @123astbury
    @123astbury 9 місяців тому +17

    I appreciate the time and effort you put into making this video. Thank you very much.

  • @getyourshinglesvaccine
    @getyourshinglesvaccine 9 місяців тому +8

    Beautiful! I had only one Hoya for 3yrs. I found your channel about a month ago and now I have 11 😂 and quite the wish list. Thank you for explaining what you do or dont enjoy, also which ones are similar that you prefer. Very helpful!

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +3

      Are you trying to tell me there is a correlation between you finding my channel and your hoya collection growing? 🤔 It can't be!

    • @getyourshinglesvaccine
      @getyourshinglesvaccine 9 місяців тому +3

      @BasiePlants I have lived next to a rare plant seller for many years who loves hoya. I feel this is just the beginning 🤣 🤣 🤣 We shall see how these do in my care ❤️ but yes, I blame your beautiful plants for my new obsession. I can't wait to see the rest of your tour.

  • @MarcelH40
    @MarcelH40 9 місяців тому +4

    "I have an issue with thickness." - Miro 2023 😄

  • @yororo0820
    @yororo0820 9 місяців тому +1

    I’m so glad I’m not the only one that keeps my hoyas in less light. I definitely see a difference when ai give them too much light!

  • @lindseybannon1843
    @lindseybannon1843 9 місяців тому +1

    Going to move my big leaf hoyas to lower light after watching this. Amazing collection! Can't wait to see the rest!

  • @Tradewindsvintagehi
    @Tradewindsvintagehi Місяць тому +1

    Greetings from Hawai’i. My Hoya keeps bopping me on the head too lol Love your channel❤

  • @deborahmcsweeney3349
    @deborahmcsweeney3349 9 місяців тому +1

    Wow! Beautiful hoyas!

  • @elainecarter898
    @elainecarter898 9 місяців тому +3

    Awesome Hoya Collection. Looking forward to Part 2. Thanks.

  • @mommayanna
    @mommayanna 7 місяців тому +1

    I like the way you get to the point in this video.

  • @Sahmantha40
    @Sahmantha40 4 місяці тому +1

    I’m digging the loose hair. For some reason I think it’s my 1st time seeing it down.

  • @luisamariagonzalezgarcia1590
    @luisamariagonzalezgarcia1590 3 місяці тому

    Congratulations for your hoyas’ collection

  • @jesuismama6312
    @jesuismama6312 9 місяців тому +1

    Omg I loved this! I love all of these😬 I would love for you to say more about the gunung gading. Got a one leaf cutting and waiting for it to root. Not many videos about it

  • @mindfullygrowing
    @mindfullygrowing 4 місяці тому

    Omg I love Meredithii’s leaves. I would kill for that plant 🥴

  • @anna_blooms
    @anna_blooms 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video! I love your collection and your comments 😍😍😍

  • @ireneriederer7872
    @ireneriederer7872 2 місяці тому

    Hello, I am a beginner with Hoyas and I just love your videos. They are so helpful. Thank you very much.

  • @KathyGallagher01
    @KathyGallagher01 9 місяців тому +2

    Not sure I imagine how long this will took to film, thank you for the time and effort you have put into this 🌱💚
    As someone who has recently got into Hoya not sure watching is good for the bank account, so many Hoya so little time and money 🤣

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +2

      It took much longer than I thought it would xD In my head, it was going to take an hour, max 2. Not the case. :D

  • @AngelaBernard-or9dg
    @AngelaBernard-or9dg 9 місяців тому +2

    What a show. It was wonderful. I will probably watch it over and over again until the one.

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      Which should come next weekend! It involves a step stool though…. 😅

    • @AngelaBernard-or9dg
      @AngelaBernard-or9dg 9 місяців тому

      Me too. I now have to use one. Over 100 hoyas now. But the weather is changing and I am not willing to chance it. I will just start on a wish list for the spring. You have created another addict.@@BasiePlants

  • @vixistixi
    @vixistixi 9 місяців тому +1

    ✋ I would like a 4 hr vid 😂. Thank you for sharing. Xx

  • @preedeeka
    @preedeeka 9 місяців тому

    What a treat Miro!! Cant wait to sit back and relax watching all your amazing hoyas 💚💚

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +1

      I hope you enjoy it then :)

  • @Miles_Hoffman
    @Miles_Hoffman 9 місяців тому +4

    Thank you for showing your amazing collection! 💚💚💚

  • @suvivirtanen8242
    @suvivirtanen8242 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you.
    Your surigaoensis has grown so fast. Hard to choose a favourite from such crowd.

  • @mauds.junglecats
    @mauds.junglecats 9 місяців тому +2

    And again a great video, Miro! My wishlist is growing thanks to you and more episodes to go....😂

  • @Howle250
    @Howle250 9 місяців тому

    I just can’t decide what Hoya is more prettier I so love them all!❤❤❤❤❤❤

  • @Dieppaloveplants
    @Dieppaloveplants 9 місяців тому +2

    I have my note book and pen ready to write down the hoyas that i like 💚💚💚💚

  • @kristiemowry3267
    @kristiemowry3267 9 місяців тому

    This was the best. The second viewing I wrote downs the ones I would be interested in if I ever see them up for sell. Hopefully I won't see to many at once because my list is very long. So interesting what you said about them specifically. All those details really make the video extraordinary.

  • @janetlowe6453
    @janetlowe6453 9 місяців тому +4

    Beautiful hoya collection!!

    • @janetlowe6453
      @janetlowe6453 9 місяців тому +1

      Thanks for sharing!! Getting cold here in Chicago. Time to bring my hoyas inside!!

  • @Amandasplants
    @Amandasplants 9 місяців тому +2

    ❤ I would definitely watch a 4 hour hoya video lol but thank you so much for this ive got so many wishlist hoya now lmao

  • @peaharrison9071
    @peaharrison9071 4 місяці тому

    37 seconds in... IM IN!

  • @maryannchong6970
    @maryannchong6970 8 місяців тому +1

    Great video. Beautiful hoyas.
    I would love to see how you trelis your Hoya Verticillata AH006. Thanks.

  • @KristyBui-st2lo
    @KristyBui-st2lo 6 місяців тому

    Please don't say you don't like this or that Hoya, and ready to toss it out. Plants lovers do not like to hear that.
    You have a very impressive collection.

  • @ceczlnguyenp3729
    @ceczlnguyenp3729 9 місяців тому +1

    Love ur collection so far can't wait for the upcoming hoyas

  • @flatcreek4665
    @flatcreek4665 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the tour. Looking forward to part II of your collection.

  • @robinhavens695
    @robinhavens695 9 місяців тому +1

    YAY!!! Sooo exciting!!!💚🎉💚

  • @passionateplantperson
    @passionateplantperson 9 місяців тому

    I’m so happy you decided to create these Hoya tour videos ❤ thank you 😊

  • @darlenescott6218
    @darlenescott6218 9 місяців тому +3

    Love it can't wait for part 2 and 3!!!!!

  • @wandashaw3551
    @wandashaw3551 9 місяців тому

    WOW, so many different Hoya!! ❤

  • @anahadou3304
    @anahadou3304 9 місяців тому +1

    you've made my day Miro!! thanks a lot💚💚💚

  • @mommayanna
    @mommayanna 8 місяців тому

    Thank you for this wonderful display of Hoyas

  • @mommayanna
    @mommayanna 7 місяців тому

    I like the Hoya elliptica with big leaves. They are so beautiful

  • @taimiseltaillier4952
    @taimiseltaillier4952 9 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful collection! ❤❤

  • @nuthanuelsfavs4305
    @nuthanuelsfavs4305 9 місяців тому

    So many beautiful Hoyas!

  • @Masha-wl3it
    @Masha-wl3it 8 місяців тому

    Love all of these Hoyas 💚💚💚I just mad about hoyas😂 But! I saw dischidia, and realized, I need it right now! I'm in love with it 😃🥰✨

  • @jossue9120
    @jossue9120 9 місяців тому

    Thanks for showing yoyr collection, seeing it gives me a list of plants that I want to get

  • @annettearrington957
    @annettearrington957 9 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for this!

  • @kathrynrobinson670
    @kathrynrobinson670 9 місяців тому +1

    I aspire to have such a lovely collection 😊

  • @marilynservito-ub6ry
    @marilynservito-ub6ry 2 місяці тому

    I love to watch your video,I got some of your collection and hope one day I could get the rare Hoya u jave

  • @Aquaphilic
    @Aquaphilic 9 місяців тому +1

    That was a fun, wild ride.
    Favorite leaves: Hoya gloulosa (Cao Bang, Vietnam)
    Favorite blooms: UT-033

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      I approve these choices.

  • @susanjohnson5824
    @susanjohnson5824 9 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for taking all the time and effort to show us the beautiful Hoyas. I just ordered my first Dischidia when you showed the Hirsute I love the fuzzy Hoyas so it will be fun to try my first Dischidia love me some Fuzzy.

    • @walle5667
      @walle5667 9 місяців тому

      Hoya Stoneana is amazingly fuzzy 👀 The underside of the leaves are almost like a short haired puppy fur. Super soft and hairy, but not like Thomsonii. You don't really see it, but you sure feel it.

    • @susanjohnson5824
      @susanjohnson5824 9 місяців тому

      Thanks I will look for it@@walle5667

  • @dianal3827
    @dianal3827 9 місяців тому +2

    I was one of those who asked for a tour a looong time ago 😂💚
    Edit: Absolutely gorgeous! But also, I saw a jewel orchid at one point. Please do an orchid collection video, too!
    Edit 2: Thanks to this channel, I've decided to give hoyas a try. I have 3 so far: hoya carnosa krimson princess, hoya rosita (wayetii x tsangii) and hoya mindorensis 'ut 042. So far we are still waiting for new growth, they didn't seem to like shippinng very much. In the meantime, I have 2 aeschynanthus plants growing very well, the radicand thai pink, and the longicaulis black pagoda getting ready to bloom.

  • @paigemcmaster5040
    @paigemcmaster5040 9 місяців тому

    I like your forbesii so much more than mine!!

  • @alishascott-rogers3801
    @alishascott-rogers3801 9 місяців тому

    Yay hoya tour🥰

  • @chell8510
    @chell8510 9 місяців тому

    So many beautiful hoyas ❤ so many i have never seen before 😊 thanks 💚✨️

  • @walle5667
    @walle5667 9 місяців тому

    Wow, that was so much work! Much appreciated that you go through all this hassle :) I enjoyed the video a lot.
    You have gorgeous plants, but it seems even you struggle with some. I also have Hoya Peninsularis and it's such a pain in the tuches! It won't grow. It starts grow points in many different places all at once but never follows through and always aborts them. It's so frustrating. I will try a lower light situation, I am actually surprised this worked for you. The only time my Peninsularis did anything for me was when I went away on holiday for over a week and left it outside on my south facing balcony in 33 degrees heat. Came back and the damn thing was flourishing. A few days in my presence and it killed off everything again 😐 I dunno. Clearly I am the problem here 👀

  • @aliceborolien
    @aliceborolien 9 місяців тому

    Fantastic video 🤩🪴🪴🪴🪴
    Live it ❤👏🏻 and are waiting for the next and the next and the next ++++ 😁😍❤️🥰

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      :D It will be a moment before we go through all of them :D

    • @aliceborolien
      @aliceborolien 9 місяців тому

      I ment Love it ❤️😊

  • @WanderingLetters
    @WanderingLetters 9 місяців тому

    I’m so excited for this video. I saw it get posted and I was like I’m so gonna watch this while I work on Monday morning ahahaha 😹😹

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      hahaha :D If anything happens at work, you can blame me and my video. You have my permisssion.

  • @britteliz211
    @britteliz211 9 місяців тому

    THE DAY IS FINALLY HERE 👏🏻

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      RIGHT?! three years of promises fly by so fast.

  • @miacabanting9262
    @miacabanting9262 9 місяців тому

    please more air time for lacunosas 😅😂 thank you very much miro. didnt want this video to end

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      There will be more air time for them I promise!

  • @KllF1715
    @KllF1715 9 місяців тому

    I love your Hoyas they are so beautiful! I own a Hoya Nova Ghost, Grey Ghost, Hoya Wilbur Graves Silver paid a lot for, and Hoya Argentea Princess. Once they grow, I think I might be starting clippings and sale them also opening a nursery

  • @lillam.8802
    @lillam.8802 9 місяців тому +1

    Favs: 23:53, 26:55. Can i get a HOOOYAAA? :)

  • @utakcaline444
    @utakcaline444 9 місяців тому

    jalouse de cette magnifique collection !

  • @72Jazzy
    @72Jazzy 9 місяців тому

    Thx for sharing your nice hoyas with us 😍 your videos are always a pleasure to watch and you are so funny 😊

  • @ehrrinkeenan
    @ehrrinkeenan 9 місяців тому

    Ahhh! Great video! The wishlist just keeps growing...

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +1

      Hahaha :D Well, you all should have known that when you asked for a Hoya tour :D

  • @preedeeka
    @preedeeka 9 місяців тому

    Thoroughly enjoyed the video Miro 🥰 agree with your comments on meredithii, peninsularis and priktai, my favourites too 🤩 Hahniae pink has amazing leaves as well (apart from the cute pink blooms) if you want to try another hahniae with better looking leaves 🙂

  • @marsf4883
    @marsf4883 9 місяців тому

    Wow, good job. I would have trouble not saying um, uh, and….yeah. Hard to speak quickly without pausing that’s for sure! Can’t wait to see more😊

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +1

      That’s why I did a voice over. Also, because I would be out of breath xD It still took many takes 😂

  • @aimeewildstone4602
    @aimeewildstone4602 9 місяців тому +1

    I feel lucky - my Hoya Sventlana put out 4 new leaves in one month! Then stopped growing 😂😢

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      hahaah :D She was just teasing you :P

  • @camillagedin551
    @camillagedin551 5 місяців тому

    Miro, you need to hang your Hoya lambii. Its a beautiful hanging plant 😍❤😂

  • @PozdrawiamMame
    @PozdrawiamMame 9 місяців тому

    I am speechless

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      In a good way? XD

    • @PozdrawiamMame
      @PozdrawiamMame 9 місяців тому

      @@BasiePlants YES! I didn't know so many hoya species exist, and this is only part of your collection. So much work to keep it alive!

  • @iamwoman1986
    @iamwoman1986 9 місяців тому

    I adore you. Your so funny

  • @ojojojojojoje
    @ojojojojojoje 9 місяців тому

    amazing, thank you for the tour! :) would it be possible with the ones that bloomed for you, to include what they smelled like to you? I find it fascinating that most smell differently to different people and it would be great to have that insight into your collection! :)

  • @margaretcalifano1617
    @margaretcalifano1617 9 місяців тому

    Best leaf- Cao Bang. Best flower - pubicorolla

  • @_hazplants
    @_hazplants 9 місяців тому

    Ohhh… AP1008 😍

  • @milkymoonmama369
    @milkymoonmama369 8 місяців тому

    It's a baby finger 😂😂😂 29:56

  • @tessamartens8338
    @tessamartens8338 9 місяців тому

    Dammit i really want a tent now!

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      It doesn't come with hoyas in it! :D

  • @blackswandominiscis7715
    @blackswandominiscis7715 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot for this tour. Does Hoya 'Jennife'r have something to do with Hoya 'Tequila Sunrise" ?

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +2

      No :) Different crosses, by different people. Hoya ‘Jennifer’ was crossed by Michael Miyashiro from Hawai in the 90s. It is incrassata and finlaysonii cross.
      Hoya ‘Tequila Sunrise’ is Mike Bernardo cross that came much later - it was crossed by Mike but I think introduced to the market through Susan Swartzfager in 2016 or so. It is a nicholsoniae crossed wtih ‘Godlen Eye’ I believe.

  • @wepri679
    @wepri679 8 місяців тому

    25:25 How could you?!
    Also, what is that music at the end? I liked it.

  • @PD-jamp
    @PD-jamp 9 місяців тому

    More caudata clones please! Plus I will take a cutting of everything to go.

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +1

      when we get to the cabinets in video #3 :)

  • @neferbeadeaswan9022
    @neferbeadeaswan9022 9 місяців тому +1

    What type of fencing do you use for Hoya trellis 🤔

  • @hanaaandsanaachannel
    @hanaaandsanaachannel 9 місяців тому

    ❤❤❤👍

  • @eatplnts.growplnts3344
    @eatplnts.growplnts3344 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks a lot for the Video! Great!
    Looking forward for the next ones.
    And i have the same issues with priktai and peninsularis;-/ Maybe should try to water the peninsularis more often;-)

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +2

      Does Priktai drop the leaves for you too from time to time? yes, this was a bit too much, I planned to record this in 2 hours, ended up taking everything out, knocking a lot of it over, recording and cleaning after and it was 7-8 hours total 🤣

    • @eatplnts.growplnts3344
      @eatplnts.growplnts3344 9 місяців тому

      Yes, she does it too. One of my cuttings (growing under natural light on the windowsill) keeps its leaves… until now;-)@@BasiePlants

  • @jasmin-yd9ro
    @jasmin-yd9ro 9 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful♥️♥️♥️🪴🪴🪴

  • @maribellechuga976
    @maribellechuga976 9 місяців тому +1

    Oh my gosh! Beautiful hoyas!😍😍😍😍 And how do you deal with pests? I have only 60 hoyas, 2/3 of which have flat mites and I want to die....😭

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +1

      Usually with a mini breakdown xD

    • @cathijones3924
      @cathijones3924 9 місяців тому +1

      I had to spray all of mine with sulphur. What a lot of work! I did get rid of the flat mites but I still check about once a month to make sure they are still gone. Good luck in getting rid of those mites. 🤞🏼

  • @lisaplanty
    @lisaplanty 9 місяців тому

    Hi there love your videos what do you use on mealy bugs thanks from Canada 🇨🇦

  • @rsdoconnor
    @rsdoconnor 9 місяців тому +2

    Wait, a Miro hoya tour? I'm gonna need a cocktail and pen and paper. Thanks.

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      Hahaha :D No pens and paper! Don't you write things down now :D

    • @rsdoconnor
      @rsdoconnor 9 місяців тому

      @@BasiePlants As soon as I saw it was a plant tour, I paused the video and got supplies to take notes. You added about seven to my wish list🤣

  • @PetraEmmy
    @PetraEmmy 9 місяців тому +2

    Well Miro! What a effort! I appreciate the time this takes and my hubby says to stop sharing 😂😉because now my list of hoyas has grown. Also my spartiodes is not doing much in the pon so I am also going to put it in a chunky mix

  • @rtanjskivrt
    @rtanjskivrt 9 місяців тому

    Koliko su ti dobreee hojice, odlepim uvek! Uz tebe cu da naucim engleski 😂

  • @lyndenbartlett2512
    @lyndenbartlett2512 9 місяців тому

    I wish I knew what mixes you used for each. I just received a rangsan splash and eliptica and don’t know where to start

  • @deenahickey75
    @deenahickey75 9 місяців тому

    I could do a 4 hour video I put it on well I'm in my plant room and I can't be in there for hours😊

  • @turogers13
    @turogers13 9 місяців тому

    Hi, I just got the hots for hoyas. I only have 13 but I'm just beginning!
    I desperately need your guidance 🙏

  • @judymarconi5579
    @judymarconi5579 9 місяців тому

    Where do you get you round trellises?

  • @tessie7e777
    @tessie7e777 9 місяців тому

    Glabra leaves!

  • @avaf1084
    @avaf1084 9 місяців тому

    I think I need many variations of hoya lyi.

  • @beardedhoya
    @beardedhoya 9 місяців тому +1

    Wait a i second im sorry…. Boutta nerd out. I just got so confused… As a thomsonii hoarder it being my favorite plant,,, i thought sp. aff thomsonii was pink flower, and thats why it was that way.. bc just thomsonii is white..? I also never really asked anybody though lol.. Am i wrong? Most of the time they are just distinguished by pink and white, and I thought pink just had fatter chubbier hairy shorter leaves than the white’s more typical flatter elongated leaves. I havent bloomed my white yet, but i have a pink.. it was my “splash” that looks sort of different than all my other clones, but i know for a fact ive been mostly buying pink bc the white just isnt as cute… I have many clones, some look the same (in terms of shape and hairiness and whatever else) a few are definitely different than the next if you look close enough.. pretty much same conditions for all as well. But i be struggling to find actual real accurate info on the species. Maybe im just looking in the wrong places too..? your sp. aff looks just like my thomsonii pink… and if ive been wrong this whole time, my life is a life lol

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      No, you are right. The aff. thomsonii is supposed to have pink flower. I made a mistake when I was doing a voiceover, because what Ferah sent me is thomsonii (splash) with pink flower too, and in my head I knew there is a difference between thomsonii and aff thomsonii in terms of flower color, but I forgot the reason Ferah sent me her cutting IS because it looks like regular thomsonii in terms of leaves (and it has splash) + it has pink flower like the aff one xD So I confused things a bit in my head without checking the list :) But now I see that indeed in my list is stands "Hoya sp.aff.thomsonii (pink flower)" :)

  • @deenahickey75
    @deenahickey75 9 місяців тому +1

    OK Miro I re watched this today I didn't notice yesterday cause I was doing Hoya chores did you breathe at all through this video? 🤔

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому +2

      It is a voice over :D If I recorded the voice as I was filming, the only thing you'd hear would be Darth Vader breathing.

    • @deenahickey75
      @deenahickey75 9 місяців тому

      😂 it's was great not good for my wish list though 😂

  • @AngelaBernard-or9dg
    @AngelaBernard-or9dg 9 місяців тому

    Oops I forgot the word next one.

  • @susiesmith2543
    @susiesmith2543 8 місяців тому

    How do you water all those plants?

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  8 місяців тому +2

      I put my music on, and go through them, slowly :D

  • @2coryman
    @2coryman 5 місяців тому +1

    Hoya warehouse or greenhouse

  • @juliekennedy6658
    @juliekennedy6658 9 місяців тому

    Holy back ache Batman! Are you laying on the floor in a darkened room now?
    Hoya peninsularis has the best leaves for me…and maybe rindu, and meredithii, or maybe hypolasia, or……😁

    • @BasiePlants
      @BasiePlants  9 місяців тому

      Hahaha :D the back pain was real! Oh but what about globulosa from Cao Bang? They are all gorgeous in their own way. Except arhboldiana :P