Sorry to be Mr. Umactually but Hugh actually already had his starter because he raised it from an egg. Which means in Easy mode he's not too serious about training while in Challenge mode he's trying his best to be stronger than ever. Making his story about checking if you can keep up with him, much more interesting cause he starts stronger than you.
A fun fact for Trace since JPR said no: During the Pokémon Tower portion of the story, despite his timid nature in the face of danger at that point in his arc, Trace protects the Cubone you rescued from the Rocket Hideout to keep it from getting hurt by the ghosts and grunts while the two of you deal with the Rockets who kidnapped Mr Fuji. When you reveal the ghost Marowak and Trace sees Cubone run up crying to its mother and letting it pass on, he decides to take the Cubone in and vows to help it get revenge on Team Rocket for their crimes, as seen later when he helps you during the Silph raid. All of this is in stark contrast to Blue who fights you at Pokémon Tower and dips after telling you he caught a Cubone, but never uses one in battle, presumably boxing it immediately; he then later fights you right in the middle of the Silph raid. Personally I think Trace is the superior rival between the two; one actually goes through a character arc, while the other barely develops until the pseudo-sequel game. Also, I wouldn’t really count Arven & Penny as rivals, but they still deserve the recognition so it’s fine.
I hope this comment gets lots of upvotes and JPR gives Trace an honorable mention. It's also worth mentioning that Trace trades and evolves the Cubone into Marowak. Though, I suppose one could argue that shows an evolution of that specific Cubone throughout the franchise.
Rivals and friends are pretty much interchangeable as of Gen 6, maybe Gen 5 even, so I'd count Arven and Penny. Heck, I'd nearly count Lillie as well because of this, since she's part of the Alola friend group, but the truth is that you never get to battle her, so it's understandable why others don't.
@@ArendAlphaEagle the way I’ve always viewed it, a Pokémon rival frequently competes against you for one or more of three reasons, be it friendly competition, they view you as an obstacle, or to further their own personal agenda. You could argue the last option for Arven & Penny, but Arven only battles you twice, the reasons being once out of confusion and irritation, the other to make sure he’s up to snuff for Area Zero and reassurance of Mabostiff’s health, and Penny was more or less forced to play by her team’s own rules to finish the job, otherwise she would’ve rather avoided a battle entirely. It’s less so that they actually want to battle you, and more like you’re the best person to help them check off a box in their to do list since you helped them through their ordeals.
XY's dogshit endgame is because the mega-hack confirmed there was supposed to be a community postgame where players themselves designed gyms and shared them. I imagine there would be curated lists for them and the games would have been super popular if they didnt scrap the development
@@marshallwAIIt's honestly wild how bad they fumbled with the X/Y "Rivals". Especially coming off of the Gen 5 rivals. Cheren, Bianca, N, and Hugh were all interesting and well-developed. Meanwhile the X/Y "Rivals" were pretty much the opposite. Hell Trevor and Tierno could be erased from the games and very little would actually even change.
I don't get why people don't understand why Type: Null/Silvally, i mean, it's extremely rare, there're like only four in the whole planet, it was created to battle the Ultra Beasts which threaten Alola, which gives it an interesting lore, and obviously, it was heavily based of Arceus, which includes its ability and typing.
It makes even less sense considering those same people still see Mewtwo, another synthetic Pokémon, as a Legendary Pokémon. And multiple of Mewtwo also exist considering there's a second one in XY. So by those standards,, Mewtwo shouldn't be a Legendary either, but of course the nostalgia baby is exempt from that kind of scrutiny.
Hau isn't voiced by Daiki Yamashita in the anime, he was voiced by Jun Fukuyama (best known as Joker from P5 and Roy from Fire Emblem). Yamashita did voice him in Masters EX though.
Nemona being the player who's already beat the game and is holding back for you is so cool. Cassiopenny is the only rival other than Silver who's straight up a criminal and I love her
I wouldn't say Penny is a criminal, like sure she is the leader of Team Star, but they aren't really an evil team, its more like just a group of troublemakers then anything. cause really starting in gen 7 we've been getting evil teams that are more of a public nuisance (Team Skull, Team Yell and Team Star) then a criminal organization like the ones from gen's 1-6
Btw about Gary, while *technically* true James Carter Cathcart didn't reprise his role as Gary in the last episode of Journeys because he has throat cancer and he was replaced for just that one episode by a mystery actor that hasn't been revealed.
also keiran dog piles on ogrepon if you use her in champion battle against him. his AI automatically targets her. also i could be wring but wasnt it implied nemona might not be from paldea or at least born
The whole "Champions didn't exist until Trace became the Kanto Champion" thing is most certainly non-canon now, since Mustard was a Champion 50 years prior to Sword and Shield, and I doubt those games happen any later than 20 years after Red and Blue. Though I do choose to believe that Blue and Trace were the first Kanto Champions in their respective timelines.
My best rival was Nemona. She felt like a rival and I really liked that yan side of her. Arvin felt more like a friend who you occasionally battled, while Penny a little sister you had to look out for. Dang the character writing in Scarlet/Violet was good. Very few of the other rivals made such an impression.
Yeah, Nemona, Arven, and Penny were memorable, different, and fun. Gary/Blue, Silver, and Barry were also pretty memorable. The Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald and remake rivals were less so, but still fun. The X and Y "rivals" were forgettable pretty much from the beginning. Hop was annoying, but also endearing, in a weird sort of way. Marnie was more likeable, both from being a more visually appealing character (face it, girls get better outfits than guys in Pokemon, just like Touhou), and from her personality and backstory. I'd have to say from a modern perspective, Marnie and then Nemona are my favorite rivals, and from a nostalgia perspective Gary/Blue and Silver are my favorites.
Cheren means Black in Bulgarian. Bianca means white in Italian. I'm an Italian living in Bulgaria, what where the chances? 🤣🤣 Oh, my name is also the one of the Dark type Team Star boss lol
Small correction, but Hugh didn't get his starter from Bianca. It's one he got from an Egg The fact that the starter is the one that has a type advantage against yours is mostly a coincidence in-universe
Gary's voice actor did change at the end of Ultimate Journeys, and the beginning of Ash's final adventure, since his voice actor, James Carter Cathcart, got lung cancer and was unable to voice Gary, Professor Oak, James, Meowth, and a bunch of other Pokemon throughout the rest of Ash's final adventure
Another fun fact for nemona: not only is her blueberry academy team tied for the highest level Pokémon of any rival battle, but that team has the highest average level of any trainer battle in any game (with an average level of 86.1)
1:20 It also just...doesn't track with what we know from Champions of other regions. It's implied that characters like Leon and Cynthia have been Champions for years so this line Samson says makes no sense in my opinion.
To be fair, Leon has been champion for ten years, which would still be well after the events of RBY. However, there's a long string of champions before him including Steel Peony and Master Mustard.
Tierno is pretty cool in Masters. Made friends with Adaman and Dahlia, pretty positive influence. Problem is they basically made him up entirely for it since XY gave us almost nothing other than "likes to dance". Does anyone know where to find a translated version of the statement where Ohmori talked about Arven? I want to know what he said about things.
1:23 Actually, they do mention that in Let's Go. Trace says on the S.S. Anne "Blue's real strong. I heard he beat the Pokémon League's Elite Four years ago. And I heard he's got a rival who even managed to beat him, too!"
At the Pokémon League in Let's Go, Professor Oak outright confirms that previously, a Trainer received the Champion title just by defeating the Elite Four, but starting from Trace (and presumably also Blue), the Champion battle is implemented as part of the League challenge and the requirement to become a new Champion. So yeah, Red and Blue *are* indeed Champions in the Let's Go timeline too, they're just not staying at the League.
@pokechatter Not necessarily. Before the events of the game, just beating the Elite Four was enough to give you the title of Champion, so it was more of a title than a position, kinda like how it works in Paldea.
@@wikiuser92 In regions prior to the introduction of Paldea’s system, the champion was a position/role, and not a title, with examples of those losing, gaining, competing for or retiring from the position in gen 2, 3, 5, 7 and 8.
@@wikiuser92 The Let’s Go games are clearly set in a different universe from the RBY or FrLg, and we knew that there are already multiple universes in different game prior to Let’s Go’s release (ie SM being separate from USUM, same generation as Let’s Go). You can’t necessarily apply a newer game’s unique league system to prior games or to the rest of the currently known mainline Pokémon world. Besides, SV itself gives us evidence that other countries and their students consider the role of “champion” differently from Paldea, given that Blueberry Academy, emulating the Unovan League, treats their Champ as a role and not a title. You’re too smart to claim your headcanon applies to all universes when there is too much grey area as is in Pokemon’s World Building.
My favorite rivals are Cheren, Bianca and Nemona. Having friends as rivals is cool and they aren't jerks like how some people want their rivals to be. P.S. Did not know that's why Barry fines people. Thought it was just an odd quirk of his
Wally has always been my favourite rival, even before when they gave him a character in oras (because i like ralts). Him going from an insecure little guy to actually being confident about fighting you in victory road makes me love him even more
I always thought that had they not done Journeys and did a standard Galar anime, that Hop and Marnie would’ve been cool traveling companions for Ash. Mainly since it’d be a neat curveball and by way of me imagining Ash deciding to mentor Hop after winning the Alola League. It’d be cool if we had a jerk rival who’d transition into being more friendly over the course of the game by way of you giving them an actual challenge.
If you want to talk about crazy odds with Wally, the Zigzagoon he borrows isn't shiny locked either. I wonder what the odds are of both Ralts and Zigzagoon being shiny in the same battle
Always rep Blue because as a kid I didn't realize that anything, but my Charizard probably would have been helpful against him. In more modern sensibilities, it's a tossup between Arven and Nemona, I lost my mom in January 2022 and Scarlet was the game out of the pair I chose to play first, so I got the dreaded feeling of realization that a parent was gone, and unironically being the friend in that game to help him out and find some form of peace was neat cause my friends were rock solid for me too throughout it. Also, Mabosstif and my dog aren't too far apart either in their ups and downs, though she wasn't attacked by a prehistoric god lizard, so there's that too. Wait, am I just Arven? Nemona in the other hand is really simple, I love the concept of Pokemon Goku. Always looking for a new challenge and finding someone who clicks with you and gets that desire to push forward, that's just a vibe.
Sorry about your mom. I had to warn a friend of mine whose father died when she was a teenager and who has a very strained relationship with her mother that there's a very uncomfortable family relationship in this game with no happy ending. I tried not to spoil but I hope it prepared her for the ending (she's been busy and hasn't played much) If you like the idea of "Pokémon Goku", might I suggest reading Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!, an 8 volume manga by Shigekatsu Ihara? The main character, Hareta, is a Lucas expy who grew up in the woods and regularly takes on pokémon directly.
Here’s a new head-canon that I came up with for anyone who finds my comment to enjoy. When Gladion canonically travelled around Kanto for a month after the events of the Alola main story (provided the extra battle is USUM exclusive), he came across Silver during his journey and the two of them started out hating each other but eventually started realizing they had several pieces of common ground and became best friends afterwards.
It was implied by Agatha (I’m not sure which continuity) that Samuel was a champion at 1 point. Also in a, debatable canon, manga prequel to the anime, it was said that Samuel’s grandfather, Palet Oak, was a champion and the founder of Palet town.
4:44 Actually, Barry only has a 20 level jump after beating the Hall of Fame 20 times in Diamond and Pearl. Nothing happens after beating it 10 times in both games, Platinum just has an unused set of teams that are 10 levels higher.
I’ve got one for Trace, he’s the only rival who loses moves between his battles, losing a move on every Pokémon when he’s the champion compared to his prior fight.
Type:Null is classed as a legendary for the exact same reason Mewtwo was classed as a legendary, despite both having at least 2-3 additional cannon instances (Mewtwo developed by both Team Rocket and Team Plasma/Neo Team Plasma while Type:Null was developed by the Ather Foundation and later a rough scientist) both where created based on pre-existing mythical pokemon utilizing said DNA and Data on the pokemon (a fossilized eyelash from mew and the elemental plates of arceus) thats why despite being on the weaker/more common side, Type:Null is a legendary.
Player character ages are really interesting thing in my opinion. Especially nowadays with how often we get context clues about other character ages. As for the Scarlet and Violet player characters specifically, I think we can infer a few things about their age. We know that they are younger than Arven and Nemona. The former is in class 2H which would imply that he is in the grade above the player character and the latter mentions being at the school the year before. We can also assume by that logic that Penny is potentially older than the player character as well for the same reason. There is also the fact that the player transfers into the class and happens to be in the same class that Nemona is in. So instead of talking about the likelihood that the champion herself was held back a year, let's focus on the fact that our player might have had previous schooling. So this means they wouldn't be the age of someone just starting out. What isn't helping us is the fact that the school is open to all ages. If the Academy was functionally a high school, then we would have a bit more information to work with. But considering there are people who are clearly in their 60s or older who are addressed as falling under the student trainer class And the one guy outside the water gym town who has been at the school for 20 years but only has two level 20 Pokémon? I'm kind of at a loss. Through design alone I would say the player characters are no younger than 12. But given the apparent ages of Arven and Nemona (they could easily be 16) then the protagonist would have to be older. All of this waffling to essentially conclude that in my opinion the only age that makes sense for the player is 14 or 15. In other words, they would've transferred partway into their freshman year, with Nemona lacking the credits to become a sophomore.
I think we’ve all collectively named Silver ‘butt’ At one stage of our lives- but that doesn’t absolve him from being my favourite rival. His arc is really fun, but being the son of Giovanni is vastly underplayed. Kieran managed to scratch that familiar itch I’ve really wanted in a rival, though, so he’s a real close second :))
6:26 Well, no actually! Just before the rival battle Hugh states: "Let's see how good a Trainer you are! I'll use my _Pokémon_ that I raised from an Egg!" This makes level difference for Hugh's starter make sense! And it's neat they actually did account for that.
The 87 cap on Nemona and Kieran bothers me cause I just keep remembering Red's level 88 Pikachu and how nobody has gone above that yet. BDSP Cynthia matched it but 88 is still the cap.
On a technicality, I would also say Byron sort of changed his because he was Oreburgh's gym leader until very recently and, similar to Jasmine, his Onix became a Steelix.
I have a few fun facts of my own for the later rivals Hop's name and hair are based on the hop plant which is also known as the prince plant because it resembles a prince's crown. This draws a parallel with Leon's name and hat being king references Bede's character growth is shown in his League cards with the first one having a crude hasty signature while the second has a more refined one, symbolizing how he started caring more about his career Marnie's personality is the polar opposite of her signature mon as her mood can take days to change while Morpeko's changes constantly Klara actually used to be a very hard worker but grew frustrated and disheartened after not managing to make any advancements on her Idol career. She was inspired to become a gym leader by Pier's popularity and chose the Poison type because it had the least competition for the position Penny's habit of calling her eeveelitions "Veevees" it's a reference to SwSh where you can occasionally hear Eevee Kids using the term Kieran will offer to trade an Applin with the player if you talk to him 3 times at the club room on the epilogue of the indigo disc dlc. With the player originally being from Gallar this implies Kieran has developed romantic feelings for them
Nice video! My favorite rival has got to be Silver bc I like his character design and I really like the Celebi event. I do wish they did more with him being Giovanni's son though.
If were talking just games then I'd probably pick N as my favorite rivial. If were taking the anime into account its Paul. Also, you're either a fan of King of the Hill or its laundry day and that shirt was all you had for this video.
I honestly forget the gen 6 "rivals" even exist, that just goes to show how little they effect the plot as those 3 are only ever fought twice. And if im being honest it feels like if you removed Tierno, Trevor and Shauna from X & Y...nothing would really change
for the whole thing with Gladeon and Type: Null I feel the need to point out that there are plenty of cases of man-made Pokemon being considered Legendary or Mythical. it generally seems to be a difference between whether they were mass produced or made in limited supply. there's only supposed to be a very small number of Mewtwo, 1 of each of the 4 Treasures of Ruin, 1 Magearna, a very small number of Genesect (technically you could consider a true Genesect to be a fossil pokemon but the mythical pokemon we all know are edited with a cannon added to them), and 3 Type: Null/Silvally. the 5 Regis (not counting Regigigas) are also artificial, just made by Regigigas instead of by mankind. like the other artificial Legendaries these seem to have been made in very limited numbers. for artificial pokemon counting these limited numbered ones as Legendary/Mythical does kinda make sense since it's doubtful that there will ever be any extra ones made. it's a better situation than the Eon Duo, at least according to the anime they aren't even unique/limited, just rare natural Pokemon
I'm amazed that PMEX had the audacity to reference the shiny chance of Wally's Ralts encounter in his sygna suit unit. And I guess he should get Iron Valiant next for the full set.
Great video My favorite rival is Silver I played Pokémon Crystal then Leaf Green so when we got the Giovanni's son has red hair line I was blown away when making the connection I had yet to read the Adventures manga that far yet either
Nemona’s slowly becoming one of my favorite rivals, especially since me and her ended up with half the same team. Somehow, we both had a Pawmot, Goodra, and a Starter (just pretend she also had Meowscarada), so it always felt like we were trying to one up each other
Hoenn rivals are much more closer together than any other pair. They seem to face a lot more threats together, their final epilogue battle comes after an extremely heartfelt and emotional moment and it even seems their parents are friends as I seem to remember their parents having dinner and discussing that they are watching the meteor showers together.
My personal favorite rival has got to be Hugh. His Qwilfish Hair is stylish (no kidding) His theme is kind of a banger His story is one of the most unique out of all characters His team is also decent.
Fun fact: in platinum the rival character (Dawn) is the daughter of a scientist that works for Professor Rowan. And Ofc she is the assistant, but you don’t need to ask any optional characters for that. Meanwhile, you can all to Dawn’s father.
I have bonus fact about Kieran. He gonna say this dialogue about Ogerpon only to Ogerpon. Zoroark will not count so we can see how big bond he has to Ogerpon. (Or it can be just Codes in game but I like see this as Headcanon
One more fun fact about the galar rivals in masters they all own a legendary bird this is most likely a homage to the manga where the three of them encountered the birds but interesting enough marnie and hops had the opposite encounter hops tried to get moltras and marnie tried to get zapados
they say Arven isn't a rival, I see him as more of friend and he did remind me train my team up pretty good as he beat me how many times and I love how he holds his Pokeball upside down, like Arven dear you have your pokeball upside down, lol also did you realize we can no longer name our rival like back in the day..i wonder why,lol
I love all the rivals in Pokemon but my favorite is Kieran...I really love Nemona Arven and Penny too...and also Barry Hugh Bede Wally and Hop they are all goats
Also I still do not give Nemona props for being a league Champion. Paldea IMO watered the titled down. In some ways its cool that there's more than one but in others the realism of who you face really hits home. Geeta's line up sucks so bad. Heck even Nemona's line sucks.There's the implication that her previous journey lead to the idea that she had a much much better team and yet you somehow felt unworthy despite slapping her every confrontation I dunno....Champions of Paldea my as well be Orange Island Contest Champions or Battle Frontier Brains. Yes they are strong but it feels less grandiose than any prior championship outside of maybe Alola
thanks for including Wally from Gen 3 under friendly rival, people like to say new games are bad because of friendly rivals when we are literally getting friendly rivals since Gen 3 yes new games are bad but not because of friendly rivals
WWE is completely scripted. Not serious at all. Everything is faked and done purely for people's entertainment. I'm actually surprised there are still people who don't realize it's fake. If they actually did wrestling for real and were trying to hurt each other, people would get serious injuries or die.
yeah Penny and Arven aren’t actually rivals but just consider it bonus content, you’re welcome
Eh... I'd say that they count.
One of Arven’s theme skills in Masters EX is Rival.
Arven IS a rival according to Pokémon Masters Ex.
And Kirean became a sociopath after Ogerpon choose the player
If Trevor, Shauna and Tierno count then so do they
Hugh mentioned raising his starter from an egg, he didn't get it from Bianca
That line is way funnier in randomizers
“time to battle you with the pokemon I raised from a egg”
*throws out god of time*
@@grimcreeper8196 I mean, the Creation Trio do come from eggs.
@@deCGVB Whats weird is that he just so happened to breed the starter strong against yours.
@@UltimateFunBilly Hugh has the move foresight
Gotta say, you saying “Hop owns a legendary Pokémon” while the video shows him sending out Dubwool is just proof that Dubwool is a secret legendary
I know it's a joke, but maybe not use the word proof
2:14 I always interpreted this as Silver acknowledging you.
Whereas before he couldn't be bothered to consider you an opponent.
Sorry to be Mr. Umactually but Hugh actually already had his starter because he raised it from an egg. Which means in Easy mode he's not too serious about training while in Challenge mode he's trying his best to be stronger than ever. Making his story about checking if you can keep up with him, much more interesting cause he starts stronger than you.
A fun fact for Trace since JPR said no: During the Pokémon Tower portion of the story, despite his timid nature in the face of danger at that point in his arc, Trace protects the Cubone you rescued from the Rocket Hideout to keep it from getting hurt by the ghosts and grunts while the two of you deal with the Rockets who kidnapped Mr Fuji. When you reveal the ghost Marowak and Trace sees Cubone run up crying to its mother and letting it pass on, he decides to take the Cubone in and vows to help it get revenge on Team Rocket for their crimes, as seen later when he helps you during the Silph raid. All of this is in stark contrast to Blue who fights you at Pokémon Tower and dips after telling you he caught a Cubone, but never uses one in battle, presumably boxing it immediately; he then later fights you right in the middle of the Silph raid.
Personally I think Trace is the superior rival between the two; one actually goes through a character arc, while the other barely develops until the pseudo-sequel game.
Also, I wouldn’t really count Arven & Penny as rivals, but they still deserve the recognition so it’s fine.
I hope this comment gets lots of upvotes and JPR gives Trace an honorable mention. It's also worth mentioning that Trace trades and evolves the Cubone into Marowak. Though, I suppose one could argue that shows an evolution of that specific Cubone throughout the franchise.
As much as Trace is underwhelming as a rival, I feel bad for the poor guy, he seems like a kind lad.
Rivals and friends are pretty much interchangeable as of Gen 6, maybe Gen 5 even, so I'd count Arven and Penny. Heck, I'd nearly count Lillie as well because of this, since she's part of the Alola friend group, but the truth is that you never get to battle her, so it's understandable why others don't.
Gladion and Bede are definitely not your friends.@@ArendAlphaEagle
@@ArendAlphaEagle the way I’ve always viewed it, a Pokémon rival frequently competes against you for one or more of three reasons, be it friendly competition, they view you as an obstacle, or to further their own personal agenda. You could argue the last option for Arven & Penny, but Arven only battles you twice, the reasons being once out of confusion and irritation, the other to make sure he’s up to snuff for Area Zero and reassurance of Mabostiff’s health, and Penny was more or less forced to play by her team’s own rules to finish the job, otherwise she would’ve rather avoided a battle entirely. It’s less so that they actually want to battle you, and more like you’re the best person to help them check off a box in their to do list since you helped them through their ordeals.
Xy: we have 4 rivals
Us: are they good
Xy: No
XY's dogshit endgame is because the mega-hack confirmed there was supposed to be a community postgame where players themselves designed gyms and shared them. I imagine there would be curated lists for them and the games would have been super popular if they didnt scrap the development
I only count one
Ah yes, the real rival and the "rivals"
they saw how much people loved cheren and bianka and said the more the better
@@marshallwAIIt's honestly wild how bad they fumbled with the X/Y "Rivals". Especially coming off of the Gen 5 rivals. Cheren, Bianca, N, and Hugh were all interesting and well-developed. Meanwhile the X/Y "Rivals" were pretty much the opposite. Hell Trevor and Tierno could be erased from the games and very little would actually even change.
For Tierno, you could have mentioned that all of his Pokemon know dance moves to the point Roserade only knew Petal Dance.
I don't get why people don't understand why Type: Null/Silvally, i mean, it's extremely rare, there're like only four in the whole planet, it was created to battle the Ultra Beasts which threaten Alola, which gives it an interesting lore, and obviously, it was heavily based of Arceus, which includes its ability and typing.
Now there's more since someone from Macro Cosmos stole one and figured out how to create them
It makes even less sense considering those same people still see Mewtwo, another synthetic Pokémon, as a Legendary Pokémon. And multiple of Mewtwo also exist considering there's a second one in XY. So by those standards,, Mewtwo shouldn't be a Legendary either, but of course the nostalgia baby is exempt from that kind of scrutiny.
Hau isn't voiced by Daiki Yamashita in the anime, he was voiced by Jun Fukuyama (best known as Joker from P5 and Roy from Fire Emblem). Yamashita did voice him in Masters EX though.
*ALL HAIL LELOUCH!*
Funny, Gladion in JP version in the anime he’s voiced by the same person who voices Bakugo
@@The_Random_Creature oh my
Nemona being the player who's already beat the game and is holding back for you is so cool. Cassiopenny is the only rival other than Silver who's straight up a criminal and I love her
Silver did it for the good
yet we never get to see her team and her "going full out" team's levels are still below our highest levelled pokemon's level
I wouldn't say Penny is a criminal, like sure she is the leader of Team Star, but they aren't really an evil team, its more like just a group of troublemakers then anything.
cause really starting in gen 7 we've been getting evil teams that are more of a public nuisance (Team Skull, Team Yell and Team Star) then a criminal organization like the ones from gen's 1-6
@bulborb8756 she's a criminal because she hacked into and robbed the Pokemon league and they gave her a job so they had someone like her on their side
@bulborb8756 she literally committed felony larceny to pay the player for taking down team star
Btw about Gary, while *technically* true James Carter Cathcart didn't reprise his role as Gary in the last episode of Journeys because he has throat cancer and he was replaced for just that one episode by a mystery actor that hasn't been revealed.
that explains why he sounds off
Champion Lance did maintain his voice actor in the pokemon anime
also keiran dog piles on ogrepon if you use her in champion battle against him. his AI automatically targets her.
also i could be wring but wasnt it implied nemona might not be from paldea or at least born
He did noted that in one of the shorts. Although Kieran doesn’t deserve Ogerpon or Terapagos, I still like him especially as a rival.
If you invited nemona to the bb club she tells you she moved to paldea when she was 7
The whole "Champions didn't exist until Trace became the Kanto Champion" thing is most certainly non-canon now, since Mustard was a Champion 50 years prior to Sword and Shield, and I doubt those games happen any later than 20 years after Red and Blue. Though I do choose to believe that Blue and Trace were the first Kanto Champions in their respective timelines.
My best rival was Nemona. She felt like a rival and I really liked that yan side of her. Arvin felt more like a friend who you occasionally battled, while Penny a little sister you had to look out for. Dang the character writing in Scarlet/Violet was good. Very few of the other rivals made such an impression.
I like both Nemona and Arven. They’re not just rivals, but good friends you can get along and support with.
S/v absolutely nailed the characters, which has been pretty standard for the odd number gens
Yeah, Nemona, Arven, and Penny were memorable, different, and fun. Gary/Blue, Silver, and Barry were also pretty memorable. The Sapphire/Ruby/Emerald and remake rivals were less so, but still fun. The X and Y "rivals" were forgettable pretty much from the beginning. Hop was annoying, but also endearing, in a weird sort of way. Marnie was more likeable, both from being a more visually appealing character (face it, girls get better outfits than guys in Pokemon, just like Touhou), and from her personality and backstory. I'd have to say from a modern perspective, Marnie and then Nemona are my favorite rivals, and from a nostalgia perspective Gary/Blue and Silver are my favorites.
Cheren means Black in Bulgarian. Bianca means white in Italian. I'm an Italian living in Bulgaria, what where the chances? 🤣🤣
Oh, my name is also the one of the Dark type Team Star boss lol
Awesome. My name's been used for a character who was dead before she even shows up (Amber, from the first movie). Also a random aroma lady in gen 3
Considering there are billions of people on the planet, the chances are pretty high
Silver added so much to Johto. To me, he is the greatest rival Pokemon has ever made.
11:06 her leggings also could be a reference for Plusle and Minum, since the plus signal is red and minus is blue
Small correction, but Hugh didn't get his starter from Bianca. It's one he got from an Egg
The fact that the starter is the one that has a type advantage against yours is mostly a coincidence in-universe
Daiki Yamashita actually just voices Hau in EX! Hau is voiced by Jun Fukuyama in the anime
Gary's voice actor did change at the end of Ultimate Journeys, and the beginning of Ash's final adventure, since his voice actor, James Carter Cathcart, got lung cancer and was unable to voice Gary, Professor Oak, James, Meowth, and a bunch of other Pokemon throughout the rest of Ash's final adventure
No it was still him those were recorded before he retired
@@madnessarcade7447 I don't think so. The voices are completely different, Meowth doesn't even have the accent anymore
Another fun fact for nemona: not only is her blueberry academy team tied for the highest level Pokémon of any rival battle, but that team has the highest average level of any trainer battle in any game (with an average level of 86.1)
6:28 wait what? No he doesn’t. He specifically says he hatched his starter from an egg
8:15 189 is also Jumpluff's national Dex number if that's anything
Ok?
1:20 It also just...doesn't track with what we know from Champions of other regions. It's implied that characters like Leon and Cynthia have been Champions for years so this line Samson says makes no sense in my opinion.
To be fair, Leon has been champion for ten years, which would still be well after the events of RBY. However, there's a long string of champions before him including Steel Peony and Master Mustard.
Tierno is pretty cool in Masters. Made friends with Adaman and Dahlia, pretty positive influence. Problem is they basically made him up entirely for it since XY gave us almost nothing other than "likes to dance".
Does anyone know where to find a translated version of the statement where Ohmori talked about Arven? I want to know what he said about things.
Penny also mentions Peony's catchphrase when she's in a phone call
1:23 Actually, they do mention that in Let's Go. Trace says on the S.S. Anne "Blue's real strong. I heard he beat the Pokémon League's Elite Four years ago. And I heard he's got a rival who even managed to beat him, too!"
At the Pokémon League in Let's Go, Professor Oak outright confirms that previously, a Trainer received the Champion title just by defeating the Elite Four, but starting from Trace (and presumably also Blue), the Champion battle is implemented as part of the League challenge and the requirement to become a new Champion. So yeah, Red and Blue *are* indeed Champions in the Let's Go timeline too, they're just not staying at the League.
Blue and Red might have abdicated their champ titles too
@pokechatter Not necessarily. Before the events of the game, just beating the Elite Four was enough to give you the title of Champion, so it was more of a title than a position, kinda like how it works in Paldea.
@@wikiuser92 In regions prior to the introduction of Paldea’s system, the champion was a position/role, and not a title, with examples of those losing, gaining, competing for or retiring from the position in gen 2, 3, 5, 7 and 8.
@@pokechatter Exactly. But in-universe, that was not true before the events of the Gen 1 games and their remakes.
@@wikiuser92 The Let’s Go games are clearly set in a different universe from the RBY or FrLg, and we knew that there are already multiple universes in different game prior to Let’s Go’s release (ie SM being separate from USUM, same generation as Let’s Go). You can’t necessarily apply a newer game’s unique league system to prior games or to the rest of the currently known mainline Pokémon world. Besides, SV itself gives us evidence that other countries and their students consider the role of “champion” differently from Paldea, given that Blueberry Academy, emulating the Unovan League, treats their Champ as a role and not a title. You’re too smart to claim your headcanon applies to all universes when there is too much grey area as is in Pokemon’s World Building.
Wally and Kieran, without a doupt.
9:50 Sends suspiciously Trans coded beam at your rival forever changing the course of their life.
Which only shows that being a tran is a choice 😊
My favorite rivals are Cheren, Bianca and Nemona. Having friends as rivals is cool and they aren't jerks like how some people want their rivals to be.
P.S. Did not know that's why Barry fines people. Thought it was just an odd quirk of his
Favorite rivals:
Blue
Wally
Barry
Hugh
Hop
Nemona
Also amazing video! 👍🤩
Wally has always been my favourite rival, even before when they gave him a character in oras (because i like ralts). Him going from an insecure little guy to actually being confident about fighting you in victory road makes me love him even more
I always thought that had they not done Journeys and did a standard Galar anime, that Hop and Marnie would’ve been cool traveling companions for Ash. Mainly since it’d be a neat curveball and by way of me imagining Ash deciding to mentor Hop after winning the Alola League.
It’d be cool if we had a jerk rival who’d transition into being more friendly over the course of the game by way of you giving them an actual challenge.
@@misterzygarde6431 Kinda sounds like Gladion
If you want to talk about crazy odds with Wally, the Zigzagoon he borrows isn't shiny locked either. I wonder what the odds are of both Ralts and Zigzagoon being shiny in the same battle
Always rep Blue because as a kid I didn't realize that anything, but my Charizard probably would have been helpful against him.
In more modern sensibilities, it's a tossup between Arven and Nemona, I lost my mom in January 2022 and Scarlet was the game out of the pair I chose to play first, so I got the dreaded feeling of realization that a parent was gone, and unironically being the friend in that game to help him out and find some form of peace was neat cause my friends were rock solid for me too throughout it. Also, Mabosstif and my dog aren't too far apart either in their ups and downs, though she wasn't attacked by a prehistoric god lizard, so there's that too. Wait, am I just Arven?
Nemona in the other hand is really simple, I love the concept of Pokemon Goku. Always looking for a new challenge and finding someone who clicks with you and gets that desire to push forward, that's just a vibe.
Sorry about your mom.
I had to warn a friend of mine whose father died when she was a teenager and who has a very strained relationship with her mother that there's a very uncomfortable family relationship in this game with no happy ending. I tried not to spoil but I hope it prepared her for the ending (she's been busy and hasn't played much)
If you like the idea of "Pokémon Goku", might I suggest reading Pokémon Diamond and Pearl Adventure!, an 8 volume manga by Shigekatsu Ihara? The main character, Hareta, is a Lucas expy who grew up in the woods and regularly takes on pokémon directly.
Here’s a new head-canon that I came up with for anyone who finds my comment to enjoy. When Gladion canonically travelled around Kanto for a month after the events of the Alola main story (provided the extra battle is USUM exclusive), he came across Silver during his journey and the two of them started out hating each other but eventually started realizing they had several pieces of common ground and became best friends afterwards.
It was implied by Agatha (I’m not sure which continuity) that Samuel was a champion at 1 point. Also in a, debatable canon, manga prequel to the anime, it was said that Samuel’s grandfather, Palet Oak, was a champion and the founder of Palet town.
Honestly, learning those facts about Cheren and Bianca made me appreciate them as characters even more than I already did
I think you forgot Avery
4:44 Actually, Barry only has a 20 level jump after beating the Hall of Fame 20 times in Diamond and Pearl. Nothing happens after beating it 10 times in both games, Platinum just has an unused set of teams that are 10 levels higher.
I’ve got one for Trace, he’s the only rival who loses moves between his battles, losing a move on every Pokémon when he’s the champion compared to his prior fight.
N is a rival in my heart!!!
Type:Null is classed as a legendary for the exact same reason Mewtwo was classed as a legendary, despite both having at least 2-3 additional cannon instances (Mewtwo developed by both Team Rocket and Team Plasma/Neo Team Plasma while Type:Null was developed by the Ather Foundation and later a rough scientist) both where created based on pre-existing mythical pokemon utilizing said DNA and Data on the pokemon (a fossilized eyelash from mew and the elemental plates of arceus) thats why despite being on the weaker/more common side, Type:Null is a legendary.
Player character ages are really interesting thing in my opinion. Especially nowadays with how often we get context clues about other character ages. As for the Scarlet and Violet player characters specifically, I think we can infer a few things about their age. We know that they are younger than Arven and Nemona. The former is in class 2H which would imply that he is in the grade above the player character and the latter mentions being at the school the year before. We can also assume by that logic that Penny is potentially older than the player character as well for the same reason. There is also the fact that the player transfers into the class and happens to be in the same class that Nemona is in.
So instead of talking about the likelihood that the champion herself was held back a year, let's focus on the fact that our player might have had previous schooling. So this means they wouldn't be the age of someone just starting out.
What isn't helping us is the fact that the school is open to all ages. If the Academy was functionally a high school, then we would have a bit more information to work with. But considering there are people who are clearly in their 60s or older who are addressed as falling under the student trainer class And the one guy outside the water gym town who has been at the school for 20 years but only has two level 20 Pokémon? I'm kind of at a loss.
Through design alone I would say the player characters are no younger than 12. But given the apparent ages of Arven and Nemona (they could easily be 16) then the protagonist would have to be older.
All of this waffling to essentially conclude that in my opinion the only age that makes sense for the player is 14 or 15. In other words, they would've transferred partway into their freshman year, with Nemona lacking the credits to become a sophomore.
Avery actually uses a Galarian Slowking as his ace in the Galarian Star Tournament.
That wasn’t tierno? There’s more than just one fat guy in Pokemon.
Tierno is so forgettable, bro had to create a fact for him on his own😭
The director of the movie confirmed it was Tierno in an interview later on.
@@JPRPokeTrainer98 that doesn’t sound right, when was this? How come nobody else mentioned it before?
@@JPRPokeTrainer98 and also that Verity's mother ISN'T Cynthia
@@theamazingspooderman2697tierno is wholesome dance boy
Especially great in the anime
I think we’ve all collectively named Silver ‘butt’ At one stage of our lives- but that doesn’t absolve him from being my favourite rival. His arc is really fun, but being the son of Giovanni is vastly underplayed. Kieran managed to scratch that familiar itch I’ve really wanted in a rival, though, so he’s a real close second :))
9:52 I'm really glad you pointed this out because I have shield and I looked for her everywhere not knowing she was version exclusive🤣
Say what you want about scarlet and Violet. Gotta admit, story and characters they got down really well I think
I like Hau way more than I should. He is adorable and happy and has fun in the sun of Hawa-- alola. Who wouldn't want to hang out with him?
6:26 Well, no actually! Just before the rival battle Hugh states:
"Let's see how good a Trainer you are! I'll use my _Pokémon_ that I raised from an Egg!"
This makes level difference for Hugh's starter make sense! And it's neat they actually did account for that.
The 87 cap on Nemona and Kieran bothers me cause I just keep remembering Red's level 88 Pikachu and how nobody has gone above that yet. BDSP Cynthia matched it but 88 is still the cap.
On a technicality, I would also say Byron sort of changed his because he was Oreburgh's gym leader until very recently and, similar to Jasmine, his Onix became a Steelix.
Hopefully in the next one we get the intro you have one of the best music intros brings me so much nostalgia love you jpr 💪🏿🔥keep doing it
Wally is a champ. You can't help but to root for Hop, Marnie is an angel and Bede is a prick.
Nemona. Nuff said.
We'll see if any rivals to come take on some traits of both the jerk & friendly rivals
Great King Of The Hill shirt
I have a few fun facts of my own for the later rivals
Hop's name and hair are based on the hop plant which is also known as the prince plant because it resembles a prince's crown. This draws a parallel with Leon's name and hat being king references
Bede's character growth is shown in his League cards with the first one having a crude hasty signature while the second has a more refined one, symbolizing how he started caring more about his career
Marnie's personality is the polar opposite of her signature mon as her mood can take days to change while Morpeko's changes constantly
Klara actually used to be a very hard worker but grew frustrated and disheartened after not managing to make any advancements on her Idol career. She was inspired to become a gym leader by Pier's popularity and chose the Poison type because it had the least competition for the position
Penny's habit of calling her eeveelitions "Veevees" it's a reference to SwSh where you can occasionally hear Eevee Kids using the term
Kieran will offer to trade an Applin with the player if you talk to him 3 times at the club room on the epilogue of the indigo disc dlc. With the player originally being from Gallar this implies Kieran has developed romantic feelings for them
11:27 I believe the theory that since gen 5, the protagonist is 15, and all rivals since are the same age or a little younger.
The player is 14 in BW and 11 in SM. I believe that is all we know.
Nice video! My favorite rival has got to be Silver bc I like his character design and I really like the Celebi event. I do wish they did more with him being Giovanni's son though.
If were talking just games then I'd probably pick N as my favorite rivial. If were taking the anime into account its Paul.
Also, you're either a fan of King of the Hill or its laundry day and that shirt was all you had for this video.
Fun fact Brendan will think Norman child is an boy if you pick May
I honestly forget the gen 6 "rivals" even exist, that just goes to show how little they effect the plot as those 3 are only ever fought twice. And if im being honest it feels like if you removed Tierno, Trevor and Shauna from X & Y...nothing would really change
Leaving work at 5pm on a Friday hearing "good morning everyone goooooood morning"!
Wally is my favorite rival in Pokemon. 😊
I'm pretty sure Blue mentions he was a champion until Red came along in LGPE
for the whole thing with Gladeon and Type: Null I feel the need to point out that there are plenty of cases of man-made Pokemon being considered Legendary or Mythical.
it generally seems to be a difference between whether they were mass produced or made in limited supply. there's only supposed to be a very small number of Mewtwo, 1 of each of the 4 Treasures of Ruin, 1 Magearna, a very small number of Genesect (technically you could consider a true Genesect to be a fossil pokemon but the mythical pokemon we all know are edited with a cannon added to them), and 3 Type: Null/Silvally.
the 5 Regis (not counting Regigigas) are also artificial, just made by Regigigas instead of by mankind. like the other artificial Legendaries these seem to have been made in very limited numbers.
for artificial pokemon counting these limited numbered ones as Legendary/Mythical does kinda make sense since it's doubtful that there will ever be any extra ones made.
it's a better situation than the Eon Duo, at least according to the anime they aren't even unique/limited, just rare natural Pokemon
I'm amazed that PMEX had the audacity to reference the shiny chance of Wally's Ralts encounter in his sygna suit unit. And I guess he should get Iron Valiant next for the full set.
Keep it up on your work and this video and channel
I love this video and channel
Thanks you for your video and channel
I love Pokemon all franchise
The amount of disrespect for LGPE is astounding 😂
alolen oaks facial structure is so similar to kantonian oak's that i thought they were the same person lol
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Great video
My favorite rival is Silver
I played Pokémon Crystal then Leaf Green so when we got the Giovanni's son has red hair line I was blown away when making the connection
I had yet to read the Adventures manga that far yet either
Nemona’s slowly becoming one of my favorite rivals, especially since me and her ended up with half the same team. Somehow, we both had a Pawmot, Goodra, and a Starter (just pretend she also had Meowscarada), so it always felt like we were trying to one up each other
7:08 well all 3 of Tierno’s pokemons have a move related to dance like Sword Dance and Petal Dance.
Hoenn rivals are much more closer together than any other pair. They seem to face a lot more threats together, their final epilogue battle comes after an extremely heartfelt and emotional moment and it even seems their parents are friends as I seem to remember their parents having dinner and discussing that they are watching the meteor showers together.
The Hoenn Rivals? ...Are you sure?
@TwoHeadedMeerkat I mean the protagonist and the rival. I think the stupid is starting to take over me
Can't wait for Trace to appear in Pokémon Masters and call himself Kanto’s first Champion. That would be hilarious.
JPR was wrong, it is confirmed in Let's Go that both Blue and Red beat the Elite Four previously.
I remember when i play my first pokemon emerald game in the hoenn region
I saw wally knock out his ralts
Me : pfft dumbass.
iirc after the crowned tundra, avery's slowbro was changed to a galaran slowking
JPR your Nascar tapestry is dope ! Where did you get it ?
My personal favorite rival has got to be Hugh.
His Qwilfish Hair is stylish (no kidding)
His theme is kind of a banger
His story is one of the most unique out of all characters
His team is also decent.
U have to be younger than 14
@FMJUploads biff, I'm 18. Lmao
@MananKandhari so 13 when swsh came out. So you preferring hop over all of them sounds about right
@@FMJUploads they said hugh lol not hop
@@FMJUploads Hop, I'm talking BW2 bud. And Hop has a character. At least he scotches it better than whatever you are yapping about lmao.
Fun fact: in platinum the rival character (Dawn) is the daughter of a scientist that works for Professor Rowan. And Ofc she is the assistant, but you don’t need to ask any optional characters for that. Meanwhile, you can all to Dawn’s father.
@@NotlostMoon why specifically Dawn when Lucas has the same role?
@ tbh, it’s because I forgot his name at the moment of commenting.
I have bonus fact about Kieran. He gonna say this dialogue about Ogerpon only to Ogerpon. Zoroark will not count so we can see how big bond he has to Ogerpon. (Or it can be just Codes in game but I like see this as Headcanon
@@Cargo_The_Hedgehog he's an obsessed fanbrat with nothing else in his life so of course he recognizes her
One more fun fact about the galar rivals in masters they all own a legendary bird this is most likely a homage to the manga where the three of them encountered the birds but interesting enough marnie and hops had the opposite encounter hops tried to get moltras and marnie tried to get zapados
@@lightyoshiman why would that be a reference to any one manga?
Trace was my first rival, so I harbour no animosity toward him
they say Arven isn't a rival, I see him as more of friend and he did remind me train my team up pretty good as he beat me how many times and I love how he holds his Pokeball upside down, like Arven dear you have your pokeball upside down, lol also did you realize we can no longer name our rival like back in the day..i wonder why,lol
I love all the rivals in Pokemon but my favorite is Kieran...I really love Nemona Arven and Penny too...and also Barry Hugh Bede Wally and Hop they are all goats
Are the sound effects from Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories in this video towards the beginning?
Wally and Barry was the only Rivals that shared first name with Flash (Barry Allen and Wally West)
Strickland propane 😂
Taste the meat not the heat
My favorite Pokémon Rival is Nemona
Great video also love the shirt
Also I still do not give Nemona props for being a league Champion. Paldea IMO watered the titled down.
In some ways its cool that there's more than one but in others the realism of who you face really hits home. Geeta's line up sucks so bad. Heck even Nemona's line sucks.There's the implication that her previous journey lead to the idea that she had a much much better team and yet you somehow felt unworthy despite slapping her every confrontation
I dunno....Champions of Paldea my as well be Orange Island Contest Champions or Battle Frontier Brains. Yes they are strong but it feels less grandiose than any prior championship outside of maybe Alola
thanks for including Wally from Gen 3 under friendly rival, people like to say new games are bad because of friendly rivals when we are literally getting friendly rivals since Gen 3
yes new games are bad but not because of friendly rivals
Heck we had a friendly rival in gen ONE. Blue is a jerk but he's a jerk in the way that eleven year old best friends are to each other
@BJGvideos it can even be interpreted as a crush as 11 year-olds often bully their crushes.
And because of their honeymoon in Alola.
@@NV_Penta Hahaha true. Though a lot of it is just normal tween behavior. Eleven year olds tend to be dickwads.
Think the issue is that's ALL we get now, some variation and grey rivals etc would be nice
@ThatGuyAgen Bede was just LAST GEN to say nothing of Avery and Klara
I sure would hope an animated show is scripted
JPR’s shirt tho 👌
3:09 Wait the WWE is scripted?
WWE is completely scripted. Not serious at all. Everything is faked and done purely for people's entertainment. I'm actually surprised there are still people who don't realize it's fake.
If they actually did wrestling for real and were trying to hurt each other, people would get serious injuries or die.
I opened the comment section at the exact moment he mentioned the WWE being scripted and your comment was the first to show up
No performing a chokeslam is a good martial arts move
Pokémon King Of The Hill and WWE fan we have a lot in common 😂