Macron in the middle? French president in china amid superpower showdown • FRANCE 24 English
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- Опубліковано 4 кві 2023
- French president landed in Beijing for his first post-Covid visit. Emmanuel Macron is accompanied by the European Commission president who last week went on the offensive over unfair trade practices and Chinese backing of Russian president Vladimir Putin.
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Based on what I saw from the Chinese media, one thing I want to correct about this report is that Macron was invited by China and very welcome to China but not Ursula von der Leyen. The reason is simple. If you want to do businesses with other people, you should show basic repect. This is why Leyen is not welcome to China.
O_____o respect needs to be mutural~ so declaring 9 dash line ownership of the entire South China Sea, wolf warrior diplomacy, border cash with India and etc etc ... + zero Covid.
Is that the new version of "Beijing's Welcome and Respect you" Slap Slap XD
@@michaelwang6125 What do those have to do with Europe and the EU?
@@michaelwang6125 how is any of that disrespectful to France?
You really need to look at a map before spouting nonsense and embarrassing yourself
@@pprocon He thinks that he represents the world. EU or France is irrelevant. Sorry, I am talk bout the US.
France 24 should have shown how China welcomed your president. Normally, for a state visit, an inspection of the Guards with the Head of the host country is proper enough, but they put on a military parade as a highest honor for the guest. That's respect, and that's what China expects from France and EU in return. It's time EU comes to reality and think of its own interest first, not be influenced by the declining power across the Atlantic. China is never a threat to Europe - past, present, and future.
But it's American daddy said it is a threat
The EU understands the "split and divide" tactics from the mafia state China.
So keep dreaming, mr "50 Cent Army". Its not in the interest of the EU to allign with the dirty chinese regime.
China will be declining the next decades due to the hilarious demographics and the fact that the US now is awake and will slow down china man 😬
Yes❤❤❤
Yes let's trade with a country responsible for the Uighur genocide.
@@bartholomewtott3812Have u ever been to China before? Or u just formed yr opinions from the extremely biased news report on western social media. I’d encourage anyone who’s never visited to save up their pennies and consider visiting here. Come, and you will find the answer.
China's handling of COVID was not a disaster! I live in China, and am in a high risk bracket having suffered a heart attack last year. They did a brilliant job keeping us safe! So much so that I do not know one person here that died from COVID, and I know about a thousand people all over China!
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common wumaopost
Ah the bots are out in force today
My god 😮
@@arkad6329like u right😂
Let's hope France can be an independent country😂
Yes, lets hope. Because if more African countries start cutting France off financially, they won't have any more money coming in. That's why he's looking for help from China
How did that worked for French during WW2?
A vasal & satellite cannot be independent.
@@Virgo53100 أفريقيا الملعونة
@@jkerr5893 France is as independent as any western country.
The economy has its own honest logic. China has not forced Europe to buy green energy related products from China. Europe can make it ourself, or buy it from the United States.
Ask Australian they said china is leader in 37 key sector out of 44.
@@marczhu7473 the same think thank who came out with various claims of the uighur mistreatment in xinjiang? They're partly funded by american's weapon contractors, they have to come out with this china threat to get more funding
You're delusional when Europe is 98% dependent on China for certain materials.
@@marczhu7473 记住澳大利亚喜欢制造假新闻
Really highlighted the fact.
Chinese people often refer to France as the old revolutionary base, and their impression of the French has always been good
As a Chinese, I can confirm that. Although we are not organized enough to strike like the French, many of us support the ongoing struggle of the French people.
They both plan on milking America for everything
France was one of the 8 countries that invaded China during the late Qing period. China has always referred to that period as 100 years of humiliation. Or selective rendition of history? So u think Chinese view France positively?😮😮
@@TheHenry9797 被你看懂了，就不是大国智慧了。你，看不懂
@@_wrmushroom6834 我当然看不懂。既然要跟外国人打交道，就不要天天说什么东升西降，百年国耻，愚民百姓。这样对大家都好。你说是吗？
Threats and warning to China will never work, in the past when China was weak it will work, nowadays after the century of humiliation, it definately won't. What will work is mutual respect of each other interests.
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H’ g - considering the French have been buying enriched uranium from Russia to fuel their nuclear industry - the hypocrisy of the amount of US/ NATO trade with Russia despite sanctions, reported by Gravitas, and the BRICS/ BRI plans seem to be progressing it is difficult to see how France or any other of the warmongers are in a position to criticise or dictate to any non western country.
Covid-19…
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China is weak, weaker than ever and more exposed than ever also, this is the CCPs last true decade of domestic power.
CCP doesn't understand what mutual respect is.
Although von der Leyen oversees on behalf of the United States, it is hoped that Macron will make decisions independently
The position of Ursula Von Der Leyen seems closed to the France's positions, and she represents well which must be the European Union positions.
The United States decides who to choose for NATO's secretary general
No way😂
@@antoinebaldur2941 Her husband and kids are American nationalities, I don't think she can truely represent the interests of Eu.
@@user-cc9pi2ro4m Agree. Ursula must show value to US before she become NATO'S secretary general.
US warmongering for China and Taiwan; We Chinese do not want war; We have relatives working / doing business in China and Taiwan; Eventually, China and Taiwan issue will resolve peacefully....
NATO has not right to be in Pacific Region - North Atlantic Treaty Organization.
Except the US and Canada are part of NATO and their west coast IS Pacific the pacific region.
Except that the US and Canada are in NATO and their west coast IS the Pscific region...
Also like all nations on world. But there come westernes and war started, people dies, economy ruined. Remember bro, Vietnam, Korea,Ruanda, Panama, Iraq, Afghanistan, Syria, Yugoslavia, Serbia, Lyban, Nicaragua, San Salvador... They way of life is war.😮😢
@@sazzbot8874 china hasnt invade or drop bombs on other countries for the last 45 years ...usa however endless wars
China doesn't want war but they want to invade and conquer Taiwan. And that would probably only be a start.
But I believe that you, as a person, don't want war. Neither do we.
A major problem is that Europe is not truly united. It is stitched together. It is not one country, like the US, China, Russia, or India. It is a somewhat artificial grouping of countries that have complex histories of not getting along very well, and have never managed to unite.
They are CHOPSUEY Chinese Food . Macron like Chopsuey
The USA will not allow the EU to unite as one.
Now you see it
Now you don't
France with 53 businesses visiting China, so much for de-risking?
money talks, human rights, democracy, freedom, de-risking..... b???s??? walks
de-risking with a big delegation team of business men, what a joke
ask money from China but not criticized by US is all about his trip.
How come each time US warship goes to other countries sea...and show how powerful it is and no other countries warship go to US sea.....who is the hunger for the war
Please don’t talk about politics when you can’t even answer that simple question! Literally look at why they are in those countries first and why the USA are in those countries! You are literally so naive and gullible!
Do what's best for France and EU, not US or UK!
We Taiwannese people reject USA pushing the war with China. We are not the game between China and USA. Actually, China and Taiwan are same race same language, the difference is the government type. We need peace not war. EUROPE countries should help the peace in the world.
It's China who are pushing a war in Taiwan, America is just trying to preserve Taiwan democracy. I don't think you are speaking in behalf of the Taiwanese people, you're just speaking for your self.
@@nanowally23 Wrong. The US is instigating divison and conflict between China and its brothers and sisters in Taiwan. Same thing they do in every continent in the world. Always dividing and conquering, never mediating peace as China is clearly doing with great speed and success today.
@@nanowally23 it is USA desperately pushing Taiwan and China to war.
@@nanowally23 im speechless after reading ur comment... america just wants to sell outdated weapens in rediculous high prices because no other country dares and take taiwan as the most important part of the so-called "the first chain" which america is giving up itself😅
I agree woth you..we are all chinese ..we are one
China, be prepared for the usual G7 playbook. Be nice when in China, followed by the bad mouthing of China immediately when they return home.
This is true, by derisk they mean they want to decouple but they it’s too risky, so they are trying win some things over by getting a good deal, otherwise there will be a threat of decoupling, don’t forget that China needs Europe to move away from the U.S. so they don’t want to lose them. But here Europe has the upper hand, but it’s a very risky one.
:3 while its highly unlikely that a leader will be detained during his/her visit but what if Beijing also does hostage diplomacy with France if MM doesn't play nice when he is in Beijing?
Needless to say having a conversation is better since some problems are resolved that way~ which is better than the way Putin does it.
Only Russia & India are your partners no one else!
The end talk about "values" is hysterically funny. French values on Africa? Lmao
😂😂😂U right
Does anyone in their right mind think this minnow, "Micron" is going to change China's mind? He must be joking.
CFA just saying
@@JackJack-lt3ub Macron thinks so. As he also thinks that the European nations will establish a European army under French command 🤣
The CFA is an embarrassment to EU and NATO ally countries.
I'd like to quote chinese forgin affairs minister Wang's 3 questions “Europe should think calmly, about what efforts should be made to stop the warfare; what framework should there be to bring lasting peace to Europe; what role should Europe play to manifest its strategic autonomy."
lmao.....typical Chinese foreign affairs ministry bs. Let's talk about stuff that address OTHERS how they should think and act.
If someone says: China should think calmly,.....
-> Xenophobes, stop interfering and telling China what to do
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Nobody in the West cares about Wang. Chinese diplomats are a disaster on geopolitics. They’re not bad at initiating with trading partners.
Not sure about Beijing but the Shanghai welcome the french with the widest smile. The french expat community is the largest over there.
Reminds me of the 2008 Olympic Games ~ Beijing welcomes you ~
T___T so much had changed since then ... to the Zero-Covid Sports Game that cuts its own citizen's passports to prevent them from leaving.
You think Shanghai is still a a French Concession? This is 2023.
Are you joking? Preventing their citizens to leave? I know a number of people who flew out of China during the pandemic
@@johnyossarian9059 then let them leave, its a free world.
@@herrwolf5184 pre pandemic more than 130 million left China as tourists. Pretty much everybody came bacj
What does France want? Money.
Some advice on how to handle violent protestors?
What has the United States brought to Europe in the past few years?
Possibly, He wants to lecture Mr. Xi about human rights and Xin Jiang people? Hahaha. 😂😂😂
Money to finance Ukraine
@@zhoubaidinh403 expired tear gas, point blank.
Europe wants but Europe can't. Ha ha ha ha. The empire has no clothes. A sad ending to western dominance.
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Europe's problems should have been solved by the Europeans themselves, including security issues, of course. It is a pity that at least recently, the handling of this point is not ideal, because they only see what is in front of them, rather than leading the processing progress, or even a sense of powerlessness
🔥🇬🇧🇺🇸🇪🇺🔥 Unfortunately, EU masters are in the USA! The USA will always sacrifice Europe, Korea, and Japan to save the oligarchs of America. It's funny how history propoganda has erased the true heroes of WW 2... it's was Russia that saved Europe!
Many European countries have been under the influence of the United States since World War II and the Cold War. The United States has many military bases in many countries and has placed many countries under the protection of its nuclear bombs. Only France remains somewhat autonomous from the United States. So it was very difficult, or even impossible, to build a european defense.
Since the "departure" of the USA with Obama and the change of direction, from Europe to the Pacific, to counter China, France has pushed for the construction of a European defense. With the beginning of the war in Ukraine, many things have changed, but this is only the beginning and the USA is afraid to lose too much influence, especially in the sale of arms, so NATO is pushing to create alternative capabilities of the European Union.
The EU on its own has 4 X times the population and 10X the GDP of Russia.
The EU should be able to handle Russia without North America , Japan , Australia and South Korea help.
European leaders should not let US interest go before their own interests. Obviously they understand it now, and trying to save their own interests and country.
Thats not how we took over the world
All batteries come from china
China 🇨🇳 philosophy if you succeed I succeed
USA 🇺🇸 philosophy you can’t succeed only me 😂
All these disinformation always make me feel angry and sad. With all this information gap, I don't think there could be fair and valuable conversation in-between.
what are you talking about
Fill in the gap yourself?
Taiwan is not even your responsibility to be discussed. What has it got to do with Macron???
EU is serious about making money with China while depending on the USA for weapons and defense support.
Europe came to beg China to save its economy. The European aristocracy is worried about their pockets and a possible uprising of the people, not about Ukraine.
LMAO!!! Oh, man, you're hysterical! LMAO!!! 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
@@dirkgonthier101 I guess you don't get it. Carry on laughing.
@@dal6984 LMAO!!! I get it! His explanation is too ridiculous to even come in the vicinity of being true! LMAO!!! 🤣🤣😂🤣🤣
There is an All-you-can-eat buffet restaurant near Ursula's home. The food is good, the price is right, and since she discovered the restaurant, she practically stopped cooking. Today she went to the restaurant owner and complain: I am not trying to decouple you, but I have to de-risk and redefine our relationship.
She's a mad cow!! 🤣
There is an article written by Victor Hugo for primary school students in China to study. It talks about how immoral and wrongful for France to invade Qing-dynasty China was and he strongly criticized both the army and the actions. That’s probably one of the reasons why Chinese don’t hold much grudges against French, since it was the birthplace of commune de Paris, the first communist movement in the world. And I am not saying that China nowadays is a communist nation as there was “opening-up”, an economic reform in 90s, or that they have such a good, democratic government or that it’s a country of human rights. It’s just pure and sincerely good wishes among people, that’s all it is.
Where are your clothes all made in china
Begging trip.😮😮
if you love trade and peace come to china but if you need conflict and war please come to us and its allies.choice is yours
You right!
I am sorry but I think you said 'peace' and 'China' in the sam sentence
@@dineshwarbalakrishnan7246 because he is right. If there is a country that has committed unspeakable atrocities in the world, it is the United States of America
“Derisking: is carefully, evaluating the risk” the Frenchman new business definition!😂😂😂😂😂
Tried with India 🇮🇳 to oppose Putin it failed . France 🇫🇷 is not an American state .😂
If Macron does it right he will a strong leader in France just like the guy in Moscow .
2 Poopy Pants . Finished careers😅
He'll never as he id a loser and a lyer !
Of course all this changes next year once a new president gets on office
What kind of unity is this the so-called EU?
Thank you for this panel!
"What does the France want?" The title sounds like it's coming from the White House.
oooooh....deep!
The should see the demonstrations and see how carismatic Macron is
Look who was meeting them in the airport? No high ranking officials...Doomed to no results.
Why everybody is criticizing China about Alibaba?
a) they were a monopoly
b) there is a whole list of anti-trust violations, etc...
Politics for Profit.......more French brand names made in China?
I was surprised that nobody on that panel even once mentioned France's interest in maintaining some control over their francophone/French currency states in Africa
This comment is what I'm looking for. Thank you
that is addressed with the Russians at the moment 😂
Or how about what China is doing in Xinjiang....Hong Kong....Tibet.....etc.
Dedolarisation is progressing over expectation.
It's quite interest that Andre mention about north stream II, is it his idea to blow it?
China asks Europe to pursue Europeans’ best interests.
USA asks Europe to pursue Americans’ best interests.
And if you believe in China having you in its best interests then you're a fool.....Look at their track record and trading record
Macron received a 5 star welcome. France ❤
Why is French leader selling China military jets which I hear are as good as American fighter jets when France is part of the nato ?
France knows about the tensions re: Taiwan and U.S.!
This doesn’t make sense.
Probably just wants to get out of Paris
In China they called him "'little' Ma", mainly because there was once a Napoleon.
Napoleon Bonaparte wasn't little. "Little corporal" was an affectionate term from his troops. Death certificate shows he was slightly taller than the average Frenchman at that time. "Little Napoleon" appeared in British cartoons, sometimes sometimes so small his sword dragged along the ground.
He thinks that is very important man, hahaha.... . He must resolve problems in own country, first...
😂😂😂😂
Big tension in pacific
Don't depend. Sure if you can do everything on your own.
“To be an enemy of America can be dangerous, but to be a friend is fatal.”
- Henry Kissinger
Nobody likes United Sanction of America
You mean China?
Taken out of context, but those who know know
@@4thought___ 那请告诉我，在这场俄乌战争中，欧洲作为美国的盟友获得了什么？
The garden is burning ,
Lions tigers, leopards from jungle are laughing from far
😂😂😂😂😂 burned
I got your joke! The European "garden" turned out to be a greenhouse now decoupled from Russian natural gas.
Ah the mercurial "Jungle Joseph Brorel"
After the storm, jungle would still be jungle, not so much for the garden
The garden threw manure at all its neighbours. Now the neighbours are putting up fences, and the garden wonders why.
As if that has any importance. France = 64.5 million people, China = 1.4 billion. Does anyone else notice this difference?
Why are you minimising the picture of the Lady when she is speaking....are you afraid of her power??😅
The EU has to stop receiving orders from the US on how to run their countries and who to trade with.
that's not really possible at this point without significant self harm
I think that s what Macron is trying to prove in this trip.
@@nhatho1723 Thats already been done. The sanctions and allowing the US to blow up the NS. A main source of Europes cheap energy. The energy source that made the Germans an indusrial monster within Europe. Now thats destroyed they have caused the Germans industry to struggle and worst, the Germans are still boot licking the US even after this. Self inflicted.
Where is your evidence that this even happens? If you euro-trash want to turn your back on the free peoples of Asia and let them be swallowed up by your trading partner then you should explain to these peoples why you are doing so. Explain why genocide in Xinjiang is okay. Or the end of democracy in Hong Kong. Or the persecution of Buddhists in Tibet. Please explain to the Taiwanese why your filthy lucre is more important than their freedom. Please tell the Japanese why you are undermining their efforts to shore up an alliance against a Chinese invasion of Taiwan. The Australians would like an explanation as well. Stop pretending this is "standing up to the US." You are just low and venal. Macron is an unctuous little twerp who should return to Paris and deal with the riots there.
44:52 "Our values." What "values...?" The Lithuania president could have his "values" without opening an "embassy" in taiwan....
Germany not only depends on China, it also depends on Chile and the copper they extract In a very cruel and tragic way for the Chilean population. We must seek a new order that is to include Russia and China.
relations have been frosty I think there needs to be some re-cuddling....
Thank you for the English Subitles. From a hearing impaired Singaporean.
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She is a CPC member?
Obviously
To talk with China without elefants in the room is an art🫥
ternyata utk peking atau beijing dlm bhs perancis pekin ya
🇫🇷 France 💛:
As long as it’s not in English the French are all for it 🐣🇫🇷🍗
Respectfully disagree. I'm from the US. I see France as an engaged, geopolitical power. She represents an important divergent view from US/UK centric dialog. I may disagree with France at times, but I always see her as important, respected and as a valued partner. Our strength is in our diversity and our wealth of different ideas. No one has all the answers. France is our oldest ally and an important elder statesman.
Finally, I am personally thankful of how Macron stepped up to be the voice of democratic ideals during the Trump years. His leadership was, and is, essential.
@@andyreznick 🤮🤮
@@andyreznick Thank you man. Same respect of enlighted american citizens like you.
this was a broadcast from an asylum, a round table in the Department of Delusions
France is not whole Europe and it is not for France or Germany to deceide about Europe future.
He talks about reducing dependency. But after seeing Germany and Russia in the past I really have troubles believing it.
The French don't need money, do they? But nothing the French want can be done without money.
FRANCE 🇫🇷 IS USA'S OLDEST ALLY SINCE WW1. THE STATUE OF LIBERTY IS A SYMBOL!
Ms. LIU sounded like a CCP Member, she knew the CCP News TV schedule and the shows by name! BIAS anyone? She almost had a heart attack when the other guest called out Communism... Those interviews of Chinese on the street in Bejing shows you how much the Chinese public is tuned into politics... Better stay far away from any substance. "Romantic" "Young President" LMAO SO deep!!!
respect is a good thing. if no respect then no friend.
speak positive impression to the person (friends or stranger )and weapon to the enemy is the chinese's tranditional culture. most of chinese person will do the same action. Taiwannese? you had lost your tranditional culture?
Fix the pensions first.
Ultimately, there is a division between sea power and land power
The central question is what is France’s leverages to make China switches its position towards the war in Ukraine? At this point, the answer to this question is that either France or the UE doesn’t have enough room of maneuvers.
不 中国不喜欢战争 中国爱好和平
Right now China is not a threat for Europe, it s more a threat for the US.
Question is what do french people want?
But Macron do not care what his people think and what his people wants😢
Whatever they want, they're certainly not getting it. Please, somebody give brioche to the French people.
They r showing neutral, because china r goin to replace usa soon
macoroni 🤭
Macron only cares how many airbus planes he can sell to China. He doesn't care about us common folks.
The battle is more spiritual than physical
"He knows where the bodies are buried" :D
The guy is right what is first politics or business
economy is the foundation of politics
What politics france want? Tell China what to do like US tell France what to do? Like Biden humiliated Macron state visit few months ago?
I would like to ride china bullet train
Wow so many Chinese 50 cents here 😮😅😂
Guy is right not one supplier
Money.
The French don't need money, do they? But nothing the French need can be done without money.
France24 does not know what french people want?
The French want the United States to run France? But nothing the French want can be done without money.
What France 🇫🇷 want
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I agree EU shouldn't depend on its neighbors Russia/China. Instead with US hegemon ~3000 miles away across Atlantic and pay 4x for energy needs.
China and France are better to stay close friends for both people. Respect Macron's speech!
You should show how Mr. Macron was welcome by the crowd like a rock star in China in a way he won’t find in France.
The way he addressed Sunack was quite casual, but not so with Chinese president. Just respect.
yeah, he seems really popular with girls, i think in no small part because Brigitte always seemed happy, so people think there are an element of true romance in their union, regardless of personal ambition of Macron.
Question to Andre: when you refer to Japanese friend’s china + strategy 15 years ago, do you see that strategy helped the country or not? What’s your assessment?
Japan is kind of the first* whistleblower to America to America~ the Quad and etc were the late Shinzo Abe's ideas too (not trumps)
The situation could potentially be worse had America reacted 2-5 years later so it did help in a wide variety of ways.
*First: There are youtuber- book authors - etc that have given the signal but the late *Shinzo Abe* was the first political leader to take decisive actions. Unlike Moscow/Beijing/Washington who says a lot but may or may not deliver~ Japan is more like a dove... a large swan that doesn't show its moving on the surface but kicking rapidly with its feet. (aka a lot of mediation and follow by numerous actions once a plan has been made).
Japan is also a G7 nation that went and give subsidies to Japanese companies in mainland China to relocate anywhere else during the first X months of the Pandamic. Cooperation with stable jobs was what helped Beijing sustain its real estate market... price freeze won't help too much since it doesn't generate new sales.
Japan's influence within ASEAN nations in several ways is greater than America's (all except those who need military defense).
Had more countries adopted the X+China earlier on (instead of aiming to reduce production cost), we probably won't have had so much problem with supply chain disruption in 2020-2022 and beyond...
@@michaelwang6125 I think Japan has been relocating their factories in China to elsewhere long before the Pandamic, since the husher and husher environment toward Japanese, e.g. the anti-Japanese demonstration in 2012, Actually similar but may milder boycotts of Japanese companies, cultures, personals, etc, happened so often, that I have lost count of it years ago ( Just like Attack of Titan is banned in China). These may have forced the Japanese to realise the risk of supply chain dependancy before any other country could see it.
@@gogojest9367 yes they have already been relocating in 2018 or earlier; Shinzo Abe had the foresight of what could happen 1-3 years before America's changed its official stance.
But it wasn't until 2020 Spring did the Government make another move to publically subsidize companies to relocate anywhere outside of China (extras if they move to Japan).
Many of the companies moving out of China try to stay under the radar~ T___T tax/hidden fee -etc and etc $$$ comes when the local authority knows you are moving out. (some people still don't know Beijing isn't an open economy).
There is hudge fund that recommends other investments in China in recent months but when you look at their personal stock/etc profile, X amount of capital is actually moving out rather than in (despite the claim of Beijing's stock being undervalued).
It somehow felt like a Ponzi scheme where they want people to pour their money in so it's easier for them to get their $$$ out.
It's very fortunate for US & Taiwan to have an ally like Japan (even if they may have acted out of their own interest & security)
Commuciation and respect is the key and benefit behind all things forever, that is it ..
Macron visiting China while his country is burning!! Modern day Nero 😂😂😂
That’s the French position always in the middle!!!
The smartest euro
Fat belly. Press navel. Tickle tickle😅
The middle? It's called defening its interests. Let me remind you that the US and anglos didn't integrate France in the AUKUS alliance in the Pacific. Why should France continue to follow them blindly if they first showed that they don't care about us?
France military equipments outdated they need to re-up to be considered a member of the AUKUS ALLIANCE!!!!
In other words the French never comes with guarantee
You cannot allow every friend to see, and hear everything especially the French they’re known to play over the ball in the middle all the time!!
The EU is a ticking time bomb.
Ms Liu I wish she can speak a bit slower and clearer !!!
Removing my comment keeps us complacent... I understand. As one of the speaker says "we live in the past"... i suggest then you remove that part as well from the debate
France has always been a solo rider and always puts its own interests ahead of so called "allies".
La FRancia fa quello che l'Italia non sa fare .Cioè curare i propri interessi.
At least, Pdt Macron took the precaution or the courtesy of taking the Pdt of the EU commission with him. Chancellor Scholz went to China on his own.
@@fredericksandelia9648 Scholz was pissed by the US and his own FM with the issue of NordStream. That's his way of showing disobedience.
@@ibingobingo Probably so. But he also plays for Germany's massive interests when visiting China. I can't blame him but that's a fact. Perhaps he should avoid making Germany as dependent on China as It was/is on Russia. You never know what can happen. That was well exposed in the debate.
难道不应该吗
France has to come to terms with the fact that, alone, it no longer carries any weight on the world's chess board. France now should coordinate its actions with the EU, NATO and other partnerships it is a party to.
Most likely Putin sent him a message through Xi
NATO is the legacy of imperialism. Standing with it is against the global south. France or any other European country should take a serious look into it. Not until NATO was dismissed or dethroned US as its leader, there would be no peace.
NATO is the legacy of imperialism. Standing with it is against the global south. France or any other European country should take a serious look into it. Not until NATO was dismissed or dethroned US as its leader, there would be no peace.
You want as a dog follow USA? French need act independently and of one's own initiative
@@andyreznick Exactly. Especially that they act as their own, and not blindly following the US, they have influence on their own and is very respected in the world stage
Any EU trade negotiations with China would have involved its economic ties with Russia. All economies work only in a politically stable climate & concerns on continuing Russian nuclear threats & annexation of neighbors would definitely have to be discussed in the table.
I like the statement from one of the speaker who is an economist. My interpretation of what he said: from the economics point of view, doing business with China is NOT an issue of or is totally IRRELEVANT to the "dependency risk" because the business deal fundamentally is a matter of offer and acceptance, the buyer may appear to 'depend' on the seller, but the seller also depends on the market formed by the sellers. It takes both hands to clap! IT is more like an INDEPENDENCY" issue rather than an "DEPENDENCY" issue. So, if there is any risk of concerned, it is a risk to both sides, EQUALLY. It is like Newton 3rd law, action equals to reaction.