A little feedback... I think you guys showcase a lot of specs and that's good, but it's difficult to follow which model you're talking about at times. Perhaps putting the model number on the screen with the specs when you're talking about it will help.
I got this laptop because of your fantastic review. BLEW my old desktop OUT OF THE WATER in all games I play (I play VERY demanding FPS titles). I doubled or even 3X+ in several cases. I got the 4080 variant for 1999! What a deal. I HIGHLY rec any of these lap tops even at full price. I sadly can't order the 4090 in my states (SO DUMB) other wise I would have gladly paid the extra. But I've found the 4080 is TRULY A BEAST even on the most demanding games. For work it effortlessly handles my most demanding multi-tasking with EASE. Battery is GREAT as well (I do primarily run it plugged in but have taken it out on travel and its done great in long meetings) I CAN NOT recommend this laptop ENOUGH. I see this being future proofed for the next couple years EASILY.
Awesome review I appreciate it, i got the Pro 5i with the 240Hz refresh rate and 500 nits of brightness and 100% DCPI, and for the ram it's 32GB and comes with a 2TB SSD
@@rallythiyam9284 Hi Sorry Bro due to night shift. I didn't get much time to test the whole thing with benchmarks. But i can tell you as long as you have a laptop stand or something to elevate the intake fans of the laptop. It's a BEAST I've played Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 on this thing and it runs it like. It's not even a heavy game 😭😂 i watched Cyberpunk 2077 install in 3 minutes or so
Originally I was looking at the "slim 7i" but I found a great deal on a Pro 7i (2023 model). I've been really happy with it for over a month now. It has performed flawlessly. What sold me on this model was the price, higher specs, and the vapor chamber cooling. The slightly thicker case also enhances cooling and it's almost as portable as the thinner model for my purposes. I doubt you could go wrong with any of these so it comes down to your specific needs and how thick your wallet is.
I had the Legion 7 for about a week. I returned the machine as the case made a severe creaky noise when opening or closing. I do agree with the noted heat values. If you attempt to place the machine on anything other than a flat surface, it will get rather warm, and even throttle. I now have the Legion Pro 7i. The Pro 7i for 2024 is a fantastic machine. I love how the CoPilot Key is built into the keyboard. I only issue to note for the Pro 7i is the installed Tobii software. If you leave the function enabled and put the machine to sleep and awaken the machine, you will get an error while attempting to use the function. Make sure you turn off the Tobii function before putting the machine to sleep. Your Team has, as always put together great reviews of the latest Laptops on the market 🙂.
I was looking at both, not sure what to get. How did the Legion 7i compare to the Pro 7 in terms of fan noise? Also, was the thickness / weight difference really noticeable between the two?
@@BRent-kh5xi The weight and thickness is noticeable. I wouldn’t go as far as to say the thickness is doubled, but one should expect it to be heavier. Also, when I had it on my dash mat on my desk, I did receive some core temps at around 96 degrees. As soon as I removed the rubber mat, it provided the clearance the fans needed. Make sure, if you get the 7, you have adequate ventilation. If you were to get the Legion 7 and not the Pro, I would get it with the 32gb of ram. You can currently pick up that machine for around $1999 at Best Buy. I was able to get the Pro 7i from Lenovo with a pretty good discount. If you do purchase the machine from Lenovo make sure you get version 9.
i have that same laptop legion 7i and it does get hot but I never play games unless I am on a desk most of the time and also it has never throttled for me before. I think its a fantastic laptop in my opinion and the pro 7i was out of my budget so the 7i just seems good.
Seems the CPU is struggling a bit on the 7i, 95 degrees in performance mode while gaming is quite bad (most likely throttleing). I guess Lenovo should've renamed their cooling system to "hot front", not "cold front" or whatever it is xD Maybe the i7 14700HX variant of 7i is better suited for its slim chasis. Also the display is a weird choice, 3.2K for a 4070@115W is a stretch. Good for content creators I guess, bad for gamers since gaming at a non-native resolution looks weird. Guess I'll pray that my Asus lasts another year or so, while waiting for a better performing / cooled slim-ish design laptop. Thanks for the review , really good !
I would love to see a review of the new Gigabyte Aorus 16X if you guys can get your hands on it. I'm looking to upgrade from my current machine and it's on my short list.
I have a Lenovo legion pro 7 i9 for 2 months, I am very satisfied, it is a wonderful laptop, especially the battery is very good, it can last a lifetime.
@@taequilty It was already available for €2,500 more than once. I don't consider that a good price. I'm waiting for it to appear for less than 2400€ and then I'll post it 👌
@@oglaucio probably the best version. i wasn’t able to find the AMD / 4090 version in EU, so ended up going for the i9-14900HX Gen 9, but hooked up to power your Gen 8 is probably stronger
I am not comparing 165 Hz(7i) and 240 Hz(pro 5).. please tell me which will perform better in fps as well as in performance...the legion 5 pro or legion slim 7i please reply me 🙏🏻
I gotchu bro, I Myself am using Legion 7i 165Hz 3.2k ...... Trust me 3.2 k is way better than you think it is. First of all AAA Games cant go over 120 Fps. Second of all Video Viewing in 3.2k is almost similar to 4k. Both Perform the same but Oh my God 7i looks marvelous and have dcip-3 color gammit is way accurate than SRGB. Dont give it a second thought and Go with 7i as Display is better,Color is more accurate and most of all it looks good. And trust me u wont notice much difference between 165 hz and 240 hz, but u will notice remarkable difference between 2k and 3.2k. Hope it helps
I purchased the exact same Legion 7i with same specs and after a month of use is been great for college and casual gaming. I play Fortnite playing with high sett. I get 60-74 fps all high settings I would conside plugging in while playing tonuse the turbo feature. For school to make the battery lasted well. I only use the integrated graphics and use power saving mode, and so far it lasts all school day. The AI software does the function of switching from the rtx to integrated really well. Buying a laptop with the 4070 8gb is perfect because the 4080 is 12gb and 4090 16gb which are capped and don't get the same VRAM per dollar as on a desktop.
Hey, can i ask what screen are you choosing 240Hz WQXGA or 3.2 k 162 Hz , and for the core i9 or i7 is better in your opinion. I saw many review talk about the thermal are quite hot, do you face this problem?
I got the legion 7i with 4070 32 gigs of ram and it's a beast since it can run any game I want to. The only thing is it gets a little warm but its manageable in use and also, I use an external keyboard so it's not an issue while playing games. The legion pro 7 is to expensive for me so the 7i is perfect!
Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 16 G9 could also be included because it is also a 16" laptop with a RTX 4070. Yoga Pro is aimed at content creators, so it's thinner and has low-powered Meteor Lake CPUs, but CPU should not matter that much in games with a 4070. I guess Yoga Pro has a better battery life and speakers than Legions.
IIRC the Yoga Pro 9i has its 4070 limited to 90-100W. For gaming purposes the lower TDP would would significantly lower gaming performance vs. other gaming PCs that run the 4070 at 140W.
@@Andorski If i remember right, 4060 and 4070 hit its peak diminishing returns Wattage about 115W, but 100W is the best for efficiency ( 115W compared to 100W different is so small- at about 5% ) i would say that the exceed 30W can be pushed to CPU - part that seemed more important for content creator
True, but I do not have it yet, and I wanted to focus on the legions. And yeah, the higher power limits will only matter in highly GPU bound games, but not a lot to make for a completely different gaming experience. As the others stated, going beyond 100-110W on a 4060 or 4070 ist not making a huge difference in real world fps numbers!
Loving the video so far :D will update when im done watching :D Update: Yeah - its a great video - i am really testing out quite a few laptops right now - tried the titan 18 hx - the new Blade 18 but i am not yet satisfied :D So i might just try the Pro 7 with the 4090 next :D
ive read soooo many posts of razer having poor quality control and batteries bloating after a couple months so I stay way from them... lenovo are not the prettiest laptops but the quality and consistency is there, asus is good too but makes weird design decisions imo from season to season
Why you write that the Legion 7 RTX 4070 has 115W TGP while the Lenovo website states 130W (115+15)? If you are not counting the Dynamic Boost, then you should show the Pro 5i RTX 4070 have 115W too (115+25). Can you please explain?
Since pro 5i and 7i both max out at 4070 and same cpu what really is the better buy. is it better to put some extra money and go for the higher 7i or go with the 5i pro.
@@fracturedprawnI've seen the same. Other reviews have said the i9 isn't worth it because of the throttling, similar if not better performance with the i7, and more power efficient.
I wish buying a laptop would be as easy as Harry Potter buys his magic wand. The laptop chooses the the owner who fits best. Since two months I cant decide which laptop, I should buy. I'm desperate
The legion pro 5 is priced higher than the legion pro 7 which is more powerful in terms of performance, and I also prefer the legion 7i which has a better 3.2k screen panel than the legion pro 5 which costs $1000 more than the legion 7i
I’m still rocking my Legion 7i I bought in April 2021 with an: Intel i7-10875H GeForce 2070 Super Max Q 32 GB RAM 1 TB + 2 TB SSD The laptop still runs just as good as it did on day 1 and this is with the model that had supposed hinge issues. Although I baby my tech gear I’ve thrown everything at this computer, from gaming to intensive editing sessions and have been really surprised at how well it’s held up. On the fence about upgrading because I know it’s still got at least another year or two in it but there’s always the tech FOMO lol
@@NotebookcheckReviews I’d probably pull the trigger on a 9i. If I’m going to upgrade might as well go all out, since I expect to hold on to the system for at least 3-5 years. Love your content! One of the best tech channels on UA-cam
I got the 7i because of your detailed review, Alex. It's a gem. It doesn't overheat and is fast and spacious, and Lenovo seems to make good quality devices.
i think a chart that condenses and summarises the whole data would have been very useful as it is very hard to keep track of all the information you are sharing, gets overwhelming.
@@NotebookcheckReviews it would be nice to have a chart for non- performance related factors like keyboard, build quality, trackpad, portability, display. it would be somewhat like a teirlist . eg : The columns would be laptop models, rows the above mentioned features. The rankings would be *Excellent, Good, Average, Acceptable and Poor.* OR your channel's usual graphs. let's say first feature is build quality then legion 9 would be excellent( since it has a fully metal build, hinges are not glued or plastic), legion 7 and 7 pro good( almost full metal build ), legion 5 pro average( only lid is metal), Legion 5 acceptable ( metal lid but not as sturdy as pro, flex). This maybe extra work but regardless thanks for reading.
Okay. Stop. The Panels are pretty clearly explained on lenovos configuration site. All of them are made by BOE and are either the same screen or at least from the same family BOE NE160QDM series (except the 3.2K version). There are 3 versions of this panel available in 2560x1600 100% sRGB 350cd/m² 100% sRGB 500cd/m² 100% DCI-P3 500cd/m² Aswell as the 3.2K version which has 100% DCI-P3 430cd/m². In theory you can take any of these and put it in the other ones. You could even get the lowest apec version and get yourself a NE160QDM-NM4 which is a comaptible 1250cd/m² micro-led panel, used in the asus rog duo 16.
Do these 3 models have the same keyboard dimensions as previous years, by the way and are interchangable with each other? I'm wanting to buy some silicone keyboard protectors but can't easily compare a Lenovo Pro 5 Gen 8 to the ones I can order online which either mention 2023 models or only Legion 7 or Pro 7.
Legion Pro 5i has a good web camera. Better lighting AI adjustments. The other 2 have the echo effect and not the same quality lighting AI adjustments.
me personally i would much rather prefer the legion, the display on the m18 is just 300 nits and 165hz which is an absolute deal breaker for me and the Alienware command center software is also said to have many problems. On the other hand the Lenovo vantage software is just so easy to use and feature rich. I just bought a legion myself too, so i can tell you that its just great. But if you think that you just want a 18 inch laptop you should go for the predator helios 18 or the scar 18. The helios 18 with the mini led screen often goes on sale for about 2700 usd, so it would be cheaper than the alienware. But between the helios and legion i would still pick the legion.
@@NotebookcheckReviews welp, a little update, its already entered my country, but the pricing is basically the same ($100+ difference) between Legion 7 and Asus G16 with the same spec (4070 and 32gb of RAM), any suggestion? I use it for office work and gaming at night, those 2 are in my budget and I like both because of the sleek design
No one, because Lenovo does not provide free fan control. The Pro 7 has the best cooling, but fan control is highly unoptimized. Example Furmark: In Performance (8:55) it runs with full power of 175 watts and nearly reaches the temperature limit with 84°C. Great! In Balanced it runs with only 105 watts (70 watts less than full performance!) although the gpu is 20°C below thermal limit! The GPU could run much faster or the fans could be much quieter. But at least the latter one cannot be achieved through Lenovo's custom mode, because fan speed cannot be lowered, but only raised which is totally stupid. 20°C below thermal limit and we are only allowed to raise fan speed. FAIL! We need free fan control to tweak temperatures and fan speed INDEPENDENTLY. I would like to set the temperature limit to 80°C (4°C less than on Performance mode in Furmark) and set the max fan speed a bit lower than on Balanced mode and let thermal throttling automatically detect the maximum power within these two constraints.
Even if sometimes manufacturers say 1tb per slot but in premium laptop 2tb ones also work, same with 32gb ram some can take more even if manufacturers say 32max.( Most time they say max what they sell ). But in case of ssd most laptop will only go to 1tb per slot
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes I have! great video. I ended up missing the deal so I ended up getting a dell g16 i9-13900HX, 4070, 32GB DDR5, 2x16GB, 16", QHD+ 2560x1600, 240Hz for $1,180 but had a 10% off code + got 15% cashback. pretty good deal
I don't know all of them have the same speakers.. but I got the Legion 7 pro a week ago and the sound great.. it has Harman speakers, and Nahimic audio.. I played the same music side by side on my 2 year old Alienware and the Legion 7 pro blew it away.. it is So much better in every way..
I wonder why all the smaller laptops this year caps out at a RTX 4070. The 4080 and 4090 gives so much more performance. Not a good year to buy smaller laptops.
It is probably because that is what most people buy. Take the 2023 ROG G14, for example. Not many people are willing to shell out that much cash for a 4080/4090 in such a form factor, so they slimmed it down and maxed out with a 4070 in the 2024 version.
@@NotebookcheckReviews if that were the case you would think at least one brand would have a 4080/4090 model, but since every brand stop making it this year I wonder if it was an Nvidia decision that stopped them from selling it. And $2799 for a RTX 4090 G14 isn’t too crazy and way cheaper than a Razer and other brands with 4090.
Please please help i am unable to select which one is better for gaming... Lenovo legion slim 7i or legion pro 5 ...with both i9 14 gen and 4070 but pro 5 has 140 watt TGP while 7i has 130 watt TGP
Thanks for another great informative video. I've been waiting a while as I picked up the Pro 7 4080 back in February when it was released. What a great machine it is for the cash! I was originally looking at the 7, but after playing around with it at a buddy's house I decided it wasn't for me. I think the web cam on the 7 kind of sounds echoish to me whereas I get compliments from my professors about how good the video is during meetings. They don't believe me when I tell them it's just a 1080 lol Also, not enough ports for sure. The speakers too are not cutting it for me. The Pro 7 speakers sound much better. I only wish the trackpad was glass and they gave it a fingerprint scanner or ir cam for easy sign in. Either way they're all great machines. I just wanted better performance for gaming and rendering and the 4070 just doesn't cut in my opinion. So, like I said they are all awesome units but my pick, obviously since I own it is the pro7. Thanks for the great video. Keep em coming.!
I can only say... Legion 7A Pro, 48GB DDR5 RAM, R9 8955HX 16C/32T, RX 790M + RTX 5090, 2TB M.2 SSD, 3.2K 120hz, 100% aluminium.... one day you ppl see it.. my laptop!
It's suck that the legion pro 7i with 100% DCI-P3 screen only come with the 4080/4090 variant :/ like come on Lenovo, I spent $1800 on the 4070 and you only gave me 100%SRGB
The fan noise of pro 5i is not much more than my ryzen 3 non gaming laptop sound on full load. 😂 . I say the fan noise is ok regarding it's a gaming laptop where I am used to louder non gaming laptop.
Can anyone please tell me if Lenovo Legion 7i , i7 11800H; 32GB, 1TB, GeForce RTX 3080 16GB(vram I assume), is good? I am a noob and am currently searching for my first gaming laptop. (Note: it's used, but still good, apparently)
As far as I know the Legion Pro 7 is only available with either an RTX 4080 or 4090. For GPU options below you would have to opt for a Legion 7, Legion 5 or Legion Pro 5.
@@antalpoti Do you understand the difference between a 100% chinese government-controlled company that pays taxes to the communist military budget and Taiwanese or American manufacturers that may use raw materials or some components produced in china?
A little feedback... I think you guys showcase a lot of specs and that's good, but it's difficult to follow which model you're talking about at times. Perhaps putting the model number on the screen with the specs when you're talking about it will help.
Hi there!
Good idea, I will keep that in mind for our next comparison video!
I got this laptop because of your fantastic review. BLEW my old desktop OUT OF THE WATER in all games I play (I play VERY demanding FPS titles). I doubled or even 3X+ in several cases. I got the 4080 variant for 1999! What a deal. I HIGHLY rec any of these lap tops even at full price. I sadly can't order the 4090 in my states (SO DUMB) other wise I would have gladly paid the extra. But I've found the 4080 is TRULY A BEAST even on the most demanding games. For work it effortlessly handles my most demanding multi-tasking with EASE. Battery is GREAT as well (I do primarily run it plugged in but have taken it out on travel and its done great in long meetings) I CAN NOT recommend this laptop ENOUGH. I see this being future proofed for the next couple years EASILY.
Do you play Helldiver 2? How is the performance like?
Any crash due to the 14th gen intel CPU?
@YeatzlKdlsl apparently thats only on desktop but who knows the truth
Awesome review I appreciate it, i got the Pro 5i with the 240Hz refresh rate and 500 nits of brightness and 100% DCPI, and for the ram it's 32GB and comes with a 2TB SSD
Need ur review bro temp performance
And how is it?
Any update on this? Planning to get this one too
would u say that i get the lenovo legion pro 5i or the legion 7i?
@@rallythiyam9284 Hi Sorry Bro due to night shift. I didn't get much time to test the whole thing with benchmarks. But i can tell you as long as you have a laptop stand or something to elevate the intake fans of the laptop. It's a BEAST I've played Cyberpunk 2077 and RDR2 on this thing and it runs it like. It's not even a heavy game 😭😂 i watched Cyberpunk 2077 install in 3 minutes or so
Haha love the lid closing sound and reaction, Alex! I don't need a new laptop yet but I still came to show my support.
everyone is reviewing the white one and i'm glad you did this color great content man...keep it up💯🔥
Originally I was looking at the "slim 7i" but I found a great deal on a Pro 7i (2023 model). I've been really happy with it for over a month now. It has performed flawlessly. What sold me on this model was the price, higher specs, and the vapor chamber cooling. The slightly thicker case also enhances cooling and it's almost as portable as the thinner model for my purposes. I doubt you could go wrong with any of these so it comes down to your specific needs and how thick your wallet is.
what was the deal you got and from which retailer?
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I had the Legion 7 for about a week. I returned the machine as the case made a severe creaky noise when opening or closing. I do agree with the noted heat values. If you attempt to place the machine on anything other than a flat surface, it will get rather warm, and even throttle. I now have the Legion Pro 7i. The Pro 7i for 2024 is a fantastic machine. I love how the CoPilot Key is built into the keyboard. I only issue to note for the Pro 7i is the installed Tobii software. If you leave the function enabled and put the machine to sleep and awaken the machine, you will get an error while attempting to use the function. Make sure you turn off the Tobii function before putting the machine to sleep. Your Team has, as always put together great reviews of the latest Laptops on the market 🙂.
Thanks for sharing and congrats to your new machine!
I was looking at both, not sure what to get. How did the Legion 7i compare to the Pro 7 in terms of fan noise? Also, was the thickness / weight difference really noticeable between the two?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Appreciate it. Your videos helped in my selection. 😃✌️
@@BRent-kh5xi The weight and thickness is noticeable. I wouldn’t go as far as to say the thickness is doubled, but one should expect it to be heavier. Also, when I had it on my dash mat on my desk, I did receive some core temps at around 96 degrees. As soon as I removed the rubber mat, it provided the clearance the fans needed. Make sure, if you get the 7, you have adequate ventilation. If you were to get the Legion 7 and not the Pro, I would get it with the 32gb of ram. You can currently pick up that machine for around $1999 at Best Buy. I was able to get the Pro 7i from Lenovo with a pretty good discount. If you do purchase the machine from Lenovo make sure you get version 9.
i have that same laptop legion 7i and it does get hot but I never play games unless I am on a desk most of the time and also it has never throttled for me before. I think its a fantastic laptop in my opinion and the pro 7i was out of my budget so the 7i just seems good.
Seems the CPU is struggling a bit on the 7i, 95 degrees in performance mode while gaming is quite bad (most likely throttleing). I guess Lenovo should've renamed their cooling system to "hot front", not "cold front" or whatever it is xD Maybe the i7 14700HX variant of 7i is better suited for its slim chasis. Also the display is a weird choice, 3.2K for a 4070@115W is a stretch. Good for content creators I guess, bad for gamers since gaming at a non-native resolution looks weird. Guess I'll pray that my Asus lasts another year or so, while waiting for a better performing / cooled slim-ish design laptop. Thanks for the review , really good !
It is difficult to choose but I will go for the 7i. Also I want to know which one is better comparing to the Asus Zephyrus G16 Oled??
same question
I would love to see a review of the new Gigabyte Aorus 16X if you guys can get your hands on it. I'm looking to upgrade from my current machine and it's on my short list.
Thank you so much, I would love for dedicated video of legion 7i but anyway, great 👌🏻👍🏻
I have a Lenovo legion pro 7 i9 for 2 months, I am very satisfied, it is a wonderful laptop, especially the battery is very good, it can last a lifetime.
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the only thing they need to change is give the "normal" legion 7 pro an oled and or mini led option...
Agreed, but then there would be no point to by the Legion 9 ... ;)
lenovo legion 7i i9-14900 hx screen 3.2k and the rtx 4060 8gb, will work find? or its better a lower screen 2560x1600
Hi, are there any chances that you will test new MSI laptops on your website? in particular MSI Sword 17
Which is better at giving gaming performance legion 7i or legion pro 5i
Lets hope we see some good deals on the Legion Pro 7 for less than 2400€ in Europe 🔥
I've been on the lookout but haven't seen any deals below 2800€ as of yet.
@@taequilty It was already available for €2,500 more than once. I don't consider that a good price. I'm waiting for it to appear for less than 2400€ and then I'll post it 👌
I just got the Legion Pro 7 Gen 8 (AMD) with the 4090 on Lenovo's website for $2550. Hope it works for EU as well. Cheers!
I know they are so overpriced
@@oglaucio probably the best version. i wasn’t able to find the AMD / 4090 version in EU, so ended up going for the i9-14900HX Gen 9, but hooked up to power your Gen 8 is probably stronger
I am not comparing 165 Hz(7i) and 240 Hz(pro 5).. please tell me which will perform better in fps as well as in performance...the legion 5 pro or legion slim 7i please reply me 🙏🏻
I gotchu bro, I Myself am using Legion 7i 165Hz 3.2k ...... Trust me 3.2 k is way better than you think it is. First of all AAA Games cant go over 120 Fps. Second of all Video Viewing in 3.2k is almost similar to 4k. Both Perform the same but Oh my God 7i looks marvelous and have dcip-3 color gammit is way accurate than SRGB. Dont give it a second thought and Go with 7i as Display is better,Color is more accurate and most of all it looks good. And trust me u wont notice much difference between 165 hz and 240 hz, but u will notice remarkable difference between 2k and 3.2k. Hope it helps
I purchased the exact same Legion 7i with same specs and after a month of use is been great for college and casual gaming. I play Fortnite playing with high sett. I get 60-74 fps all high settings I would conside plugging in while playing tonuse the turbo feature. For school to make the battery lasted well. I only use the integrated graphics and use power saving mode, and so far it lasts all school day. The AI software does the function of switching from the rtx to integrated really well.
Buying a laptop with the 4070 8gb is perfect because the 4080 is 12gb and 4090 16gb which are capped and don't get the same VRAM per dollar as on a desktop.
Hey, can i ask what screen are you choosing 240Hz WQXGA or 3.2 k 162 Hz , and for the core i9 or i7 is better in your opinion. I saw many review talk about the thermal are quite hot, do you face this problem?
@@JJ-tb3ziget the 3.2k model.
I got the legion 7i with 4070 32 gigs of ram and it's a beast since it can run any game I want to. The only thing is it gets a little warm but its manageable in use and also, I use an external keyboard so it's not an issue while playing games. The legion pro 7 is to expensive for me so the 7i is perfect!
Legion pro 5 has 100% dcip3 and 240hz? Is it actually accurate, i got one this week and I don't know if it is actually colour accurate.
Lenovo Yoga Pro 9i 16 G9 could also be included because it is also a 16" laptop with a RTX 4070. Yoga Pro is aimed at content creators, so it's thinner and has low-powered Meteor Lake CPUs, but CPU should not matter that much in games with a 4070. I guess Yoga Pro has a better battery life and speakers than Legions.
IIRC the Yoga Pro 9i has its 4070 limited to 90-100W. For gaming purposes the lower TDP would would significantly lower gaming performance vs. other gaming PCs that run the 4070 at 140W.
@@Andorski If i remember right, 4060 and 4070 hit its peak diminishing returns Wattage about 115W, but 100W is the best for efficiency ( 115W compared to 100W different is so small- at about 5% )
i would say that the exceed 30W can be pushed to CPU - part that seemed more important for content creator
True, but I do not have it yet, and I wanted to focus on the legions.
And yeah, the higher power limits will only matter in highly GPU bound games, but not a lot to make for a completely different gaming experience. As the others stated, going beyond 100-110W on a 4060 or 4070 ist not making a huge difference in real world fps numbers!
Loving the video so far :D will update when im done watching :D
Update: Yeah - its a great video - i am really testing out quite a few laptops right now - tried the titan 18 hx - the new Blade 18 but i am not yet satisfied :D So i might just try the Pro 7 with the 4090 next :D
:D I hope we can maintain the good first impression!
ive read soooo many posts of razer having poor quality control and batteries bloating after a couple months so I stay way from them... lenovo are not the prettiest laptops but the quality and consistency is there, asus is good too but makes weird design decisions imo from season to season
Why you write that the Legion 7 RTX 4070 has 115W TGP while the Lenovo website states 130W (115+15)? If you are not counting the Dynamic Boost, then you should show the Pro 5i RTX 4070 have 115W too (115+25). Can you please explain?
I thought the 7i has a total boost of 140w. But yes I have the same written question. Why weren't the bench marks run in the highest performance mode?
Since pro 5i and 7i both max out at 4070 and same cpu what really is the better buy. is it better to put some extra money and go for the higher 7i or go with the 5i pro.
It really depends if you value the slimmer and better made chassis, and higher-res display of the 7i.
@@NotebookcheckReviews I have heard that in the 7i the i9 14900HX seems to throttle a lot, is that something you've noticed in your testing?
@@fracturedprawnI've seen the same. Other reviews have said the i9 isn't worth it because of the throttling, similar if not better performance with the i7, and more power efficient.
I wish buying a laptop would be as easy as Harry Potter buys his magic wand. The laptop chooses the the owner who fits best. Since two months I cant decide which laptop, I should buy. I'm desperate
pro 7i
My employer got me the 7i for work and the Pro7i I bought for my own ;)
The legion pro 5 is priced higher than the legion pro 7 which is more powerful in terms of performance, and I also prefer the legion 7i which has a better 3.2k screen panel than the legion pro 5 which costs $1000 more than the legion 7i
Wow. How so.... im trying to decide within a legion slim 5 ryzen7+4070 at 1650€ and the legion pro 7i i9+4080 which at 2850€, 1200 more expensive.
I’m still rocking my Legion 7i I bought in April 2021 with an:
Intel i7-10875H
GeForce 2070 Super Max Q
32 GB RAM
1 TB + 2 TB SSD
The laptop still runs just as good as it did on day 1 and this is with the model that had supposed hinge issues. Although I baby my tech gear I’ve thrown everything at this computer, from gaming to intensive editing sessions and have been really surprised at how well it’s held up. On the fence about upgrading because I know it’s still got at least another year or two in it but there’s always the tech FOMO lol
Sounds like a nice machine still. My first Legion 7 experience was with the 2022 model.
What would you upgrade to if you had the chance right now?
@@NotebookcheckReviews I’d probably pull the trigger on a 9i. If I’m going to upgrade might as well go all out, since I expect to hold on to the system for at least 3-5 years.
Love your content! One of the best tech channels on UA-cam
The best comparison ive seen on lenovo 7 pro
Thank you for watching and the kind words!
Looks good. What laptop do you have yourself?
Does the 7 have an extra hour of battery life than the 7 pro bc of the graphics card and 240hz screen?
Thank you so much am going to buy lenovo legion pro 7i ❤
Should I buy legion pro 5i or legion 7i(non pro) and both have i9 with 4070 and 32gb ram and same price
i7 over i9. From what I've seen you'll get similar performance because of the heat/throttling issues with the i9, and better battery performance.
I got the 7i because of your detailed review, Alex. It's a gem. It doesn't overheat and is fast and spacious, and Lenovo seems to make good quality devices.
No ethernet ?
@@3DOMSPEECHUNITY I use a USB-Ethernet adaptor
@@disekjoumoer you my friend are a fucking legend!!!
Too loud?
How's the gaming performance.i heard it drops
i think a chart that condenses and summarises the whole data would have been very useful as it is very hard to keep track of all the information you are sharing, gets overwhelming.
Which information would you want in a chart in addition to the graphs we already have?
@@NotebookcheckReviews it would be nice to have a chart for non- performance related factors like keyboard, build quality, trackpad, portability, display. it would be somewhat like a teirlist . eg : The columns would be laptop models, rows the above mentioned features. The rankings would be *Excellent, Good, Average, Acceptable and Poor.* OR your channel's usual graphs.
let's say first feature is build quality then legion 9 would be excellent( since it has a fully metal build, hinges are not glued or plastic), legion 7 and 7 pro good( almost full metal build ), legion 5 pro average( only lid is metal), Legion 5 acceptable ( metal lid but not as sturdy as pro, flex).
This maybe extra work but regardless thanks for reading.
Okay. Stop.
The Panels are pretty clearly explained on lenovos configuration site.
All of them are made by BOE and are either the same screen or at least from the same family BOE NE160QDM series (except the 3.2K version).
There are 3 versions of this panel available in 2560x1600
100% sRGB 350cd/m²
100% sRGB 500cd/m²
100% DCI-P3 500cd/m²
Aswell as the 3.2K version which has 100% DCI-P3 430cd/m².
In theory you can take any of these and put it in the other ones. You could even get the lowest apec version and get yourself a NE160QDM-NM4 which is a comaptible 1250cd/m² micro-led panel, used in the asus rog duo 16.
the only website i go for laptop and mobile reviews!!
Do these 3 models have the same keyboard dimensions as previous years, by the way and are interchangable with each other?
I'm wanting to buy some silicone keyboard protectors but can't easily compare a Lenovo Pro 5 Gen 8 to the ones I can order online which either mention 2023 models or only Legion 7 or Pro 7.
Legion Pro 5i has a good web camera. Better lighting AI adjustments. The other 2 have the echo effect and not the same quality lighting AI adjustments.
Hey community..
Which would you recommend for me, between the alienware m18r2 or Legion Pro 7i?
Your responses will be appreciated🙏🏿
me personally i would much rather prefer the legion, the display on the m18 is just 300 nits and 165hz which is an absolute deal breaker for me and the Alienware command center software is also said to have many problems. On the other hand the Lenovo vantage software is just so easy to use and feature rich. I just bought a legion myself too, so i can tell you that its just great. But if you think that you just want a 18 inch laptop you should go for the predator helios 18 or the scar 18. The helios 18 with the mini led screen often goes on sale for about 2700 usd, so it would be cheaper than the alienware. But between the helios and legion i would still pick the legion.
I still can't find the new 7 in my country. really hope it will be available soon
Finger's crossed!
Same here unfortunately.
@@NotebookcheckReviews welp, a little update, its already entered my country, but the pricing is basically the same ($100+ difference) between Legion 7 and Asus G16 with the same spec (4070 and 32gb of RAM), any suggestion? I use it for office work and gaming at night, those 2 are in my budget and I like both because of the sleek design
will 4060 run games smoothly in the 3.2k display?
I don’t think so, even 4070 rtx struggles on it
@@JJ-tb3zi what graphics do used to play?
This is a good question.
No one, because Lenovo does not provide free fan control. The Pro 7 has the best cooling, but fan control is highly unoptimized. Example Furmark: In Performance (8:55) it runs with full power of 175 watts and nearly reaches the temperature limit with 84°C. Great! In Balanced it runs with only 105 watts (70 watts less than full performance!) although the gpu is 20°C below thermal limit!
The GPU could run much faster or the fans could be much quieter. But at least the latter one cannot be achieved through Lenovo's custom mode, because fan speed cannot be lowered, but only raised which is totally stupid. 20°C below thermal limit and we are only allowed to raise fan speed. FAIL!
We need free fan control to tweak temperatures and fan speed INDEPENDENTLY. I would like to set the temperature limit to 80°C (4°C less than on Performance mode in Furmark) and set the max fan speed a bit lower than on Balanced mode and let thermal throttling automatically detect the maximum power within these two constraints.
Is it just me or is the 5 pro much more silent in performance mode?😮 I had the 5 pro 2023 and retoured it because it was loud + coilwhine 😅
It is surprisingly silent, just keep in mind it's the 4060 + i7 SKU.
U should have talked about each laptop max ram and ssd support, no ones tells this properly
Even if sometimes manufacturers say 1tb per slot but in premium laptop 2tb ones also work, same with 32gb ram some can take more even if manufacturers say 32max.( Most time they say max what they sell ). But in case of ssd most laptop will only go to 1tb per slot
is the 5 pro 16" 7 7745HX, NVIDIA GeForce RTX4070, 32GB RAM, 1TB SSD worth buying at 1300usd??
Sounds like a solid deal for me, have you seen our review:
ua-cam.com/video/CYX0jn63pqo/v-deo.html
@@NotebookcheckReviews yes I have! great video. I ended up missing the deal so I ended up getting a dell g16 i9-13900HX, 4070, 32GB DDR5, 2x16GB, 16", QHD+ 2560x1600, 240Hz for $1,180 but had a 10% off code + got 15% cashback. pretty good deal
what website did u buy from?
Honestly wondering why the XMG Neo 16 was not included in this compare and contrast bit of video.
Because we wanted to focus on the Legions and did not had the XMG at this point.
helios neo 16 2024 (i9 4060) vs legion 5i pro 2023 (i9 4060) Which one should I choose for long term use?
Both are equally good in my opinion, so it would just be which one you like more.
They are such good laptops but I wish they had OLED. Once you go OLED it's incredibly hard to go back
I don't understand how reviewers are showing great battery life but...real life says different?
Because it really depends how you use your notebook when on battery, even the smallest things can tremendously alter overall battery consumption.
As a pre-uni student, 5i and pro 5i which one is more recomended?🙂
both are very good, i would choose the pro version, but both are very good
Which one has the best speakers
I don't know all of them have the same speakers.. but I got the Legion 7 pro a week ago and the sound great.. it has Harman speakers, and Nahimic audio.. I played the same music side by side on my 2 year old Alienware and the Legion 7 pro blew it away.. it is So much better in every way..
pro 7i has the largest speakers of them, so naturally it's the best.
You forget to include the panels response times
Awesome job, Alex!! It's always great to see you give product reviews. Keep up the wonderful work.
I wonder why all the smaller laptops this year caps out at a RTX 4070. The 4080 and 4090 gives so much more performance. Not a good year to buy smaller laptops.
It is probably because that is what most people buy.
Take the 2023 ROG G14, for example. Not many people are willing to shell out that much cash for a 4080/4090 in such a form factor, so they slimmed it down and maxed out with a 4070 in the 2024 version.
@@NotebookcheckReviews if that were the case you would think at least one brand would have a 4080/4090 model, but since every brand stop making it this year I wonder if it was an Nvidia decision that stopped them from selling it. And $2799 for a RTX 4090 G14 isn’t too crazy and way cheaper than a Razer and other brands with 4090.
Please please help i am unable to select which one is better for gaming... Lenovo legion slim 7i or legion pro 5 ...with both i9 14 gen and 4070 but pro 5 has 140 watt TGP while 7i has 130 watt TGP
Did you watch the video? 06:55
But I am not comparing 165 Hz(7i) and 240 Hz(pro 5).. please tell me which will perform better in fps as well as in performance
Yaa but in game which one will perform better please answer me...
what did you end up buying?
Thanks for another great informative video. I've been waiting a while as I picked up the Pro 7 4080 back in February when it was released. What a great machine it is for the cash! I was originally looking at the 7, but after playing around with it at a buddy's house I decided it wasn't for me. I think the web cam on the 7 kind of sounds echoish to me whereas I get compliments from my professors about how good the video is during meetings. They don't believe me when I tell them it's just a 1080 lol Also, not enough ports for sure. The speakers too are not cutting it for me. The Pro 7 speakers sound much better. I only wish the trackpad was glass and they gave it a fingerprint scanner or ir cam for easy sign in. Either way they're all great machines. I just wanted better performance for gaming and rendering and the 4070 just doesn't cut in my opinion. So, like I said they are all awesome units but my pick, obviously since I own it is the pro7. Thanks for the great video. Keep em coming.!
Lenovo could make e Legion with 18” display same your competitor ?
I am sure they could, but I would say 18" is pretty niche, so they may instead just focus on 16"
Thanks for this.
Sure thing, thank you for watching!
I dunno how they are doing it. But my pro 5 2023 has more noise at same power
What config are you rocking?
@@NotebookcheckReviews4060 7745hx
I need 64GB ram but I dont wanna splurge for an Legion 9i on lenovo site, can this Lebion pro 7i handle 64GB memory upgrade?
Yea you can upgrade it, a few vids on it.
I can only say... Legion 7A Pro, 48GB DDR5 RAM, R9 8955HX 16C/32T, RX 790M + RTX 5090, 2TB M.2 SSD, 3.2K 120hz, 100% aluminium.... one day you ppl see it.. my laptop!
It's suck that the legion pro 7i with 100% DCI-P3 screen only come with the 4080/4090 variant :/ like come on Lenovo, I spent $1800 on the 4070 and you only gave me 100%SRGB
I did not even know there was a 4070 config of the Pro 7i ...
This is impossible to follow. Put up some text when you are rattling off port specs
Is this a question or a demand?
@@NotebookcheckReviews Don't get cute, it's a helpful suggestion to improve your content.
Anyone else keep getting confused by the different models and names 😅
Where's the AMD versions?
What about Legion 9 and 9 pro?
The Legion is much more expensive and we will only get our review sample in a week or some.
As of now, there is no 9 pro.
I was starting to get confused on which is a 2023 or 2024 model when looking for a legion laptop lol
The differences are minor. So, if you can snag a 2023 model for a reasonable price, you are not missing out on much!
@@NotebookcheckReviews how about the screen are all 2023 model 100%srgb atleast?
Yepp! We also got reviews for almost all of them both on the channel and on the website, if you want to read up on those!
The fan noise of pro 5i is not much more than my ryzen 3 non gaming laptop sound on full load. 😂 . I say the fan noise is ok regarding it's a gaming laptop where I am used to louder non gaming laptop.
Yeah, it surprised me quite a bit as well to be quite honest!
Why would they make a gaming laptop without an Ethernet port
I would imagine, the vast majority of gamers, are fine with WiFi? And if you really do need a wired connection, there are always adapters ....
Lenovo Legion Slim 5 RTX4070 240Hz is also interesting
Yep, but we reviewed it already:
ua-cam.com/video/WYW-oQj0Ah4/v-deo.html
Bro was dlls frame generation on
Can anyone please tell me if Lenovo Legion 7i , i7 11800H; 32GB, 1TB, GeForce RTX 3080 16GB(vram I assume), is good?
I am a noob and am currently searching for my first gaming laptop. (Note: it's used, but still good, apparently)
We did test the AMD version it seems
www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-Legion-7-16ACH-in-review-Gaming-powerhouse-with-good-16-10-display.545205.0.html
No oled, no sale. It's 2024 Lenovo!
nice sweater, dude. You got good taste.
Games stuttering?
Not really, no
Please can Someone Tell me Where can I Find The Lenovo Legion 7i pro with only 4060 Rtx Please ?😿❤
( 4070 , 4080 and 4090 Rtx are so Expensive)
As far as I know the Legion Pro 7 is only available with either an RTX 4080 or 4090.
For GPU options below you would have to opt for a Legion 7, Legion 5 or Legion Pro 5.
@@NotebookcheckReviews Thanks for the information , enjoy your day
Lenovo need to make one 0.6"thick like razer and Asus with glossy screen. Their matte screens are god awful and ruin the vibrancy of images
you should break the euro mold and learn how to pronounce aluminum phonetically/correctly
Will do, once you check your spelling ;)
Give me one please
NO OLED so sucks
Chinese laptops, really? What a shame
Here we go ...
Find me a laptop with nothing Chinese in it and I'll buy it.
@@antalpoti Do you understand the difference between a 100% chinese government-controlled company that pays taxes to the communist military budget and Taiwanese or American manufacturers that may use raw materials or some components produced in china?
@@AlexZaglushaka cry harder, gonna get the lenovo legion 7i anyways
@@killerspycr7gamer911, this is not a joke