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  • @grim1427
    @grim1427 Рік тому +12764

    "I was redeemed. I switched back to the light side. Did no one tell you that?" Finally someone asks the questions we all want to know.

    • @macaemeia146
      @macaemeia146 Рік тому +69

      Yeah

    • @noahd.4551
      @noahd.4551 Рік тому +304

      This has bothered me since I saw TFA in theatres

    • @-Idk-bro-
      @-Idk-bro- Рік тому +116

      He knew that he just was convinced that was vaders fall it’s really obvious he always knew about anakins redemption and that being Vaders death

    • @Capybara2240
      @Capybara2240 Рік тому +118

      Kylo knows that vader redeemed himself, however kylo views it as a weakness. Pretty sure snoke told him if vader didn’t succumb to his emotions he would’ve destroyed Luke and the empire wouldn’t of fallen.

    • @noahd.4551
      @noahd.4551 Рік тому +175

      @@Capybara2240 but that still doesn’t explain why Anakin never showed up to speak to Kylo himself

  • @GrouchyRaccoon
    @GrouchyRaccoon Рік тому +8015

    It bugged me so much that the fact Anakin was redeemed was never addressed, not even by Luke.

    • @programhistory
      @programhistory Рік тому +290

      RIP Anakin Skywalker, Child of the Light

    • @macaemeia146
      @macaemeia146 Рік тому +18

      Yeah

    • @sansundertale5838
      @sansundertale5838 Рік тому +341

      Except for Rey, because of course, a scavenger who’s been on a desert planet for years would be the one who brought that up.

    • @Deuteromis
      @Deuteromis Рік тому +222

      Disney: "Cause shut the fuck up and give us your money."

    • @justsomeguywithatophat8502
      @justsomeguywithatophat8502 Рік тому +130

      His name was not even mentioned lmao
      He had a voice cameo sure. But the name Anakin was never said

  • @EnordAreven
    @EnordAreven Рік тому +5802

    It will FOREVER annoy me that Anakin's ghost never showed up in the sequels to slap some sense into Kylo!

    • @devastater97
      @devastater97 Рік тому +250

      They pulled a lame excuse in the Aftermath trilogy that Anakin apparently has a hard time appearing as a force ghost, when he visits Leia he even tells he might never see her again.

    • @user-xx6vy9ri8p
      @user-xx6vy9ri8p Рік тому +168

      He only showed up to say "Bring back the balance, Rey, as I did"...you didn't anymore, buddy.

    • @captainbeatdown6254
      @captainbeatdown6254 Рік тому +73

      Man if that was the case the writers wouldn't have the excuse to write the sequel trilogy lol

    • @Red95140
      @Red95140 Рік тому +81

      Anakin should have went Beyond Scared Straight on Kylo’s ass.

    • @Smoothalcoholic
      @Smoothalcoholic Рік тому +23

      they are force ghost, not living people. sidious could barely see yoda when he died, he only saw a glimpse and heard "win, you will not" luke might be the only one that can interact with them

  • @istariknight1
    @istariknight1 Рік тому +8927

    For all the plot holes in the sequels I can't believe Anakin being good never occurred to me in this scene lol this absolutely made my day

    • @s3dchr
      @s3dchr Рік тому +211

      I like to imagine, sometimes, "grandmaster Anakin". Imagine...

    • @eugenetswong
      @eugenetswong Рік тому +170

      Yeah, me too. It seemed surprising. When I watched it the first time, I assumed that Kylo knew and just wanted to be on the dark side. I never put much thought into it.

    • @deathpiggy101
      @deathpiggy101 Рік тому +110

      @@eugenetswong I think Palpatine may have been talking to Ben using Vaders voice to perhaps make him think that Luke killed him rather then Vader turning to save him. The Luke incident could have also lead Ben to believe Luke was lying about turning Vader.

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Рік тому +88

      Really? It immediately came to my mind. Before Vader Anakin was known as not only one of the most powerful Jedi, but one of the most kind and connected to the people. He was a legendary hero during the Clone Wars earning the respect, admiration, and friendship of those around him. After his turn to the Dark Side, hardly anyone connected that Vader and Anakin were the same people. Especially with most the order dead and no one seeing his face (which was burnt). Even then, everyone in question referred to Vader as a different person. Its repeatedly said, by Vader himself, that Darth Vader killed Anakin Skywalker who was too weak and naive. Repeatedly suggesting that Vader was another persona entirely in Anakin that manifested due to the severe trauma and stress of his actions in episode 3. And when Anakin’s old friends mentioned him and Vader, they wouldn’t dare tarnish Anakin’s legacy or character and would continue to refer to Vader as someone separate and hide or gloss over Anakin’s turn to the darkside. And then there’s the redemption in the original trilogy (which is also where Anakin first started to resurface upon learning his and Padme’s children were alive).
      Like even ignoring the redemption though, I don’t even understand how Kylo Ren got this propaganda story. Like if Luke DIDN’T talk about his father as both a role model and a warning to all his students, then the only way Kylo learned was the first order and Snoke sneaking him the information (someone) which could then immediately be refuted by literally anyone else. And I don’t suspect the rebellion made it public that Luke’s dad was Vader and went from good to evil to good (or actually it would make sense if they did considering Vader saved the day at the expense of his own life (there’s not much controversial when the contriversial subject is dead anyway)).

    • @mpnuorva
      @mpnuorva Рік тому +14

      @@deathpiggy101 That's the TROS retcon though. I doubt it was in effect in the writing process of TFA.

  • @lichaelmowry5648
    @lichaelmowry5648 Рік тому +2484

    “And after I turned back to the light side again I… reverted back to 22? I’m not sure how that works. The Force is weird.” LOL

    • @calumbrooknicolson
      @calumbrooknicolson Рік тому +39

      Is that an explanation for why Anakin Skywalker’s force ghost is young?

    • @grayski3324
      @grayski3324 Рік тому +254

      @@calumbrooknicolson My headcanon is that when you become a force ghost, you can choose how you look towards people. I guess Anakin wanted to be dripped out for his son

    • @bladeprincess
      @bladeprincess Рік тому +62

      @@grayski3324 dripped out lmaooo

    • @marltonmanks9891
      @marltonmanks9891 Рік тому +177

      @@grayski3324 might be a chance he didnt want to look like a piece of overcooked bacon either. the last time he was fully whole was before mustafar. makes sense that he would take that form as opposed to...ya know, after mustafar

    • @Raleyg
      @Raleyg Рік тому +46

      He's the Chosen One. The rules are different for him

  • @frozenfresh6406
    @frozenfresh6406 Рік тому +6299

    Finally an honest villain admits they dress the way they do to look cool. It makes them more relatable and real to me.

    • @Redeyeclipse
      @Redeyeclipse Рік тому +71

      Is kylo emo or goth?

    • @BonaparteBardithion
      @BonaparteBardithion Рік тому +188

      @@Redeyeclipse
      Emo definitely, but the difference is really how much make-up and how many belts/laces you wear.

    • @vitorhugobacicpessoavidal5448
      @vitorhugobacicpessoavidal5448 Рік тому +33

      @@BonaparteBardithion True, but also an edgy boy

    • @Redeyeclipse
      @Redeyeclipse Рік тому +3

      Okay 👌

    • @flannelpillowcase6475
      @flannelpillowcase6475 Рік тому +22

      personally i've never found teenagers or people with teenager mentality relatable, not even when i was a teenager myself

  • @4589dude
    @4589dude Рік тому +1556

    "So your uncle Luke saw the good in me and was willing to sacrifice his life to redeem me, and you're telling me he tried to kill you because of a bad dream?"

    • @damiendingus2539
      @damiendingus2539 Рік тому +6

      Kylo isn't Luke's dad and that makes plenty of difference. Age doesn't matter as long as a child and sex ain't in the same subject.

    • @darthvader537
      @darthvader537 Рік тому +232

      @@damiendingus2539 What

    • @damiendingus2539
      @damiendingus2539 Рік тому +4

      @@darthvader537
      WHAT! LOL alright Stone Cold Steve Austin. The difference between being someone's son or someone's father makes more difference than anyone farther from such relation. The same with mothers and daughters. And brothers and sisters. Unrelated or non-related are farther apart from such bonds. Obviously.

    • @darthvader537
      @darthvader537 Рік тому +207

      @@damiendingus2539 Dude, everything you are saying is nonsense.

    • @projectflexking
      @projectflexking Рік тому +81

      @@darthvader537 don’t even respond to @Damien he’s obviously slow in the head 😂

  • @zeebooboo9663
    @zeebooboo9663 Рік тому +4143

    Anakin: Did Luke ever tell you he redeemed me?
    Kylo: no as soon as he saw the evil in me he tried to kill me immediately
    Makes total sense

    • @mpnuorva
      @mpnuorva Рік тому +88

      Canonically Jake still had years to do so.

    • @nairsheasterling9457
      @nairsheasterling9457 Рік тому +374

      And this is why Luke in the Sequel Trilogy pissed us off so much.

    • @benjaminoechsli1941
      @benjaminoechsli1941 Рік тому +379

      One of the reasons Mark Hamill has said "this isn't my Luke!"

    • @carlhayden3610
      @carlhayden3610 Рік тому +176

      Based on his approach in the Original Trilogy, he would have still reached out and believed that there was good in Ben. I mean, A. He’s Family, B. Luke had a better understanding of what led to the fall of the Jedi, he could have simply sat Ben down, and had a Jedi PTA with Han and Leia, Chewy can attend. They can decide and have Ben aware of the risks, rather than just taking actions out of fear and creating hate, thus leading to the dark side…. Its either that or Grogu became a huge menace after leaving, that he decided it would be best not to give them a choice. But I highly doubt it.

    • @nairsheasterling9457
      @nairsheasterling9457 Рік тому +114

      @@carlhayden3610 Luke with Grogu is also super out-of-character, ngl. His whole thing was a refutation of the old way, demonstrably proving it wrong... Only for him to go back to it later?
      Far as I am concerned, we got one hallway scene in the post six-films era that is on-point with Luke's character.

  • @Voltaic_Fire
    @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +5299

    This never occurred to me but it makes sense, Anakin could have set Ben straight and saved us a bad sequel trilogy.

    • @kingphilosophy776
      @kingphilosophy776 Рік тому +53

      LMAO True

    • @s3dchr
      @s3dchr Рік тому +325

      Not even one of the greatest force users in the franchise can beat bad writers, I'm afraid...

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Рік тому +94

      Yeah. Anakin was even established to be a force ghost in the updated trilogy. Though Yoda or Obiwan or luke could have done the same

    • @themarsman5155
      @themarsman5155 Рік тому +10

      Mmm no kylo ren sees anakin has his weakness and Vader as his most powerful self

    • @Voltaic_Fire
      @Voltaic_Fire Рік тому +84

      @@vullord666 It would have been funny for every force ghost, from Qui-gon Jinn to Anakin, to be stood there yelling at Kylo/Ben to stop being an angsty teen and get his life together.

  • @yingtyson4493
    @yingtyson4493 Рік тому +1770

    2:55
    Kylo: "So there's this girl I kinda like..."
    Anakin: "Grandson, you must talk to her about your dislike of sand."
    Kylo: "But I kinda like sa-"
    Anakin: "Just trust me on this, it worked for me."

    • @electricangel4488
      @electricangel4488 Рік тому +75

      Well its a great tactic
      Its an intresting opinion tied to psygology and makes you intresting without judging something she has an opinion on

    • @chrismc410
      @chrismc410 Рік тому +34

      Also Anakin: getting shocked, choked, your ass kicked and your cheeks busted on occasion by a very old Sith is not fun .

    • @henrypaleveda7760
      @henrypaleveda7760 Рік тому +60

      I like that anakin didn't even say killing the girl is a bad idea, just that he wasn't the person to ask.

    • @Blacksnowfanfics
      @Blacksnowfanfics Рік тому +24

      @@henrypaleveda7760 well it's rey come on how is killing her a bad idea she's worse than jar jar

    • @Daniel_pjw
      @Daniel_pjw Рік тому +13

      Young Anakin: I hate sand. It's rough and course...and it gets everywhere

  • @johnsmith8981
    @johnsmith8981 Рік тому +631

    "there's a disconnect here I'm not sure where that came from" 😂

    • @igiari_objection
      @igiari_objection 8 місяців тому +4

      That’s the quote that had me laughing 😂

  • @cardinalhamneggs5253
    @cardinalhamneggs5253 Рік тому +333

    Kylo: “I will finish what you started, grandfather.”
    Force Ghost Anakin: “If you don’t drop the act and go apologize to your mother, I’ll disown you.”

    • @names_are_useless
      @names_are_useless 6 місяців тому +31

      Kylo: “I will finish what you started, grandfather.”
      Anakin: "Fantastic! Did I mention to you I was an avid Sudoku Player? I got a bunch of unfinished ones in the trunk under my bed."

    • @InfernosReaper
      @InfernosReaper 2 місяці тому +6

      The sad thing is that all they had to do was in Rise have Kylo reveal that stopping Palpatine was the reason he was doing everything. It even justifies the patricide, a bit because he needs maintain the cover enough to keep Snoke and Palpatine from suspecting him.
      Instead, we get Palpatine coming back saying, "It was me pulling the strings all along!"

  • @ClonserHalphalive
    @ClonserHalphalive Рік тому +604

    Anakin's honesty about not knowing what to do about relationships was perfection

    • @masterexploder9668
      @masterexploder9668 14 днів тому +2

      You want to get a girl? Tell her you don't like sand, it's course, rough and irritating. And it gets everywhere.
      It will work, trust.
      Now go my grandson and show your Skywalker rizz to the galaxy.

  • @Yorqa
    @Yorqa Рік тому +338

    Kylo: “I wear the mask for protection”
    Kylo a sec later: *easy shatters mask by slamming it into wall*

  • @Jo-ip8fw
    @Jo-ip8fw Рік тому +297

    "who...you are actually named after" I laughed SO hard lol

  • @Dante5154
    @Dante5154 Рік тому +200

    Its impressive how well he emulates their mannerism, Anakin always had a weird pause inflection....nice job

  • @BrockLee3
    @BrockLee3 Рік тому +1078

    I always wondered why Anakin never showed up and yelled at Kylo for his stupidity. If I died...and, was able to come back a Force-ghost...and, saw my grandchild making horrible decisions...and, aligning himself with the bad guys, because he's worshipping false ideas about me, while praying to my old head-gear.......I'd Force-smack him upside his head, and be like, "Dude! WTF are you doing? KNOCK IT OFF!!!"

    • @Darth_Xionn
      @Darth_Xionn Рік тому +82

      Anakin appears to Luke in a newer SW book, making it even more confusing,

    • @tallerwarrior1256
      @tallerwarrior1256 Рік тому +106

      I’ll answer both of your questions, JJ Abrams and Kathleen Kennedy wanted to stray as far away from the prequels and anything that George Lucas was extremely involved in post OT. It’s the reason why Detours, Clone Wars, and LucasArts were completely wiped off the map. After they did that they decided the next course of action was to try to follow marvels footsteps by creating a new trilogy that was more in line the original films (that failed), make Spin Off films which built up already existing characters and plot lines (sort of failed), and create new media to support those films such as new television series, video games, and literature (sort of worked but is extremely convoluted). In short, Force Awakens retold the same story as New Hope, except they added the twist of making the new bad guy just a brooding emo instead of a tortured soul imprisoned in his own skin and they made the inexperienced farm boy into a “can’t do anything wrong” Mary Sue scavenger girl, who literally has nothing to do with the actual plot and the other characters.

    • @tommysupernova663
      @tommysupernova663 Рік тому +21

      It's literally never cited but sith have a force ghost, they can posses people and make them see things that aren't real. Palpatine could have been messing with everyone after he died.

    • @Deuteromis
      @Deuteromis Рік тому +13

      Disney has an explanation but I heard it was a shitty one. Makes sense given how they answer plot holes.

    • @REDACTED.O5-13
      @REDACTED.O5-13 Рік тому +11

      If I was able to appear as a force ghost and I saw kylo kill Han Solo, I’d just scare him, hope he falls off, if he doesn’t I take his lightsaber (cause they can do that in the sequels) and smack kylo off the edge with it

  • @spork6264
    @spork6264 Рік тому +318

    Anakin would make a great therapist after being redeemed he’s been through so much shit he’s gotta relate to a lot of people’s issues

    • @gogetathestrongestfusion
      @gogetathestrongestfusion Рік тому +7

      I don’t think anyone can relate to what Anakin has been through

    • @spork6264
      @spork6264 Рік тому +16

      @@gogetathestrongestfusion I can relate to pure freaking chaos and that’s what anakin has been through… also I’m trying to sleep atm

    • @miguelsandoval4926
      @miguelsandoval4926 Рік тому +6

      That doesn't make someone a good therapist lol Anakin is the last person I'd go to for psych help

    • @soundaddiktion2006
      @soundaddiktion2006 6 місяців тому

      Anakins story is therapy

  • @JonnyDollars
    @JonnyDollars Рік тому +1297

    Poor Kylo is so confused luke must not have been a good story teller, someone needs to sit with kylo and explain the orig trig in depth

    • @lorddio4280
      @lorddio4280 Рік тому +52

      C3PO

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Рік тому +40

      Or the prequels. Or like even just the Clone Wars. Or apparently any of star wars history, because the kids acts so confused as if he never took a basic history class.

    • @amser7
      @amser7 Рік тому +14

      I think r2d2 still has most of his memory intact from all the way to the phantom menace from what I heard in the clone wars tv show

    • @Soulvale88
      @Soulvale88 Рік тому +4

      He only watched the orig trig so seeing Darth Vader as the good guy again just didn’t stick like it would have if had also watched the prequels.

    • @JayArr96
      @JayArr96 Рік тому +3

      Dear god.....please, never say "orig trig" again. That made me want to vomit.
      Also, it's trilogy, not triglogy. So that short-hand doesn't even make sense.

  • @Chosen_one_501
    @Chosen_one_501 Рік тому +237

    I like to think that this is what Anakins ghost would be like. All calm and just confused by all the stupid shit that went on after episode VI

  • @prokariustan4293
    @prokariustan4293 Рік тому +649

    I was hoping for an "Is She Into You?" reference when Anakin was giving relationship advice

    • @BrockLee3
      @BrockLee3 Рік тому +164

      ANAKIN: "Tell her you don't like sand. Then, slaughter a bunch of sand people. That worked for me."
      KYLO: "I already slaughtered a bunch of sand people."
      ANAKIN: "But, did you tell her you don't like sand?"
      KYLO: "No."
      ANAKIN: "Then, go and tell her you don't like sand. B!*ches love it when you don't like sand."

    • @ianjackson9852
      @ianjackson9852 Рік тому +46

      Anakin -- "So...you can talk to each other through the force. Yeah, uh, yeah you really can't know from that. Anything else?"
      Kylo -- "She comes from Tatooine, uh, we fought briefly. Might have connected."
      Anakin -- "Ok, that seems like a sign but you really can't tell there. I mean, there were plenty I fought against that, you know, they thought I was into them but I really wasn't. And of course, the other way too. Anyway, can't tell; any more signs?"
      Kylo -- "Um, no, other than me interrogating her we really haven't interacted since the fight."
      Anakin -- "Oh, an interrogation? That might--actually, wait, never mind. Can't tell in those situations. Keep your wits about you and continue to look for signs."

    • @vullord666
      @vullord666 Рік тому +34

      @@BrockLee3 What kills me is the leaps and bounds Anakin’s flirting did when he was an adult in Clone Wars.

    • @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb
      @ThomasTheThermonuclearBomb 8 місяців тому +3

      C. Can't tell

    • @cwa728
      @cwa728 6 місяців тому +3

      Anakin: Ask your dad.
      Kylo: Uhhhh Yeeeaaah, that’s not really an option right now sooooooooo…..

  • @MasterlKenobi
    @MasterlKenobi Рік тому +190

    i almost spit my drink out when anakin said "ok.... bye"

    • @TheVocalTune
      @TheVocalTune Рік тому +3

      When my grandniece is more weird and game addicted than me and I have to retreat to figure out a way to save her.

  • @chadhiggins6884
    @chadhiggins6884 Рік тому +76

    I love how Anakin genuinely seems confused in this

  • @Ihashappiness
    @Ihashappiness Рік тому +445

    The way Kylo says, "Why did you wear your helmeT?" got me, I don't know why.

  • @tbynlogan
    @tbynlogan Рік тому +140

    Kylo Ren is 30 years old, and didn't know that his grandpa turned to the light side at the end. SAD.

    • @DinoLoverGaming
      @DinoLoverGaming 2 місяці тому +1

      If he did, the plot would have been ruined.

  • @Johnny12575
    @Johnny12575 Рік тому +80

    Anakin being surprised by Kylo and Rey's "see through the force" as he was by Rey's healing power are legit the best things in these videos

  • @taunttitan1714
    @taunttitan1714 Рік тому +99

    "I don't wanna go back they're mean to me"
    ^^^^^ I can actually see Disney writing something like that as "Justification" for someone being on the Dark Side

    • @jamesbourne117
      @jamesbourne117 Рік тому +2

      Fr

    • @idiocrat3744
      @idiocrat3744 2 місяці тому

      Hey that's the reason why Vader didn't want to live after killing the Emperor.

  • @Tronnus
    @Tronnus Рік тому +468

    This is way better than anything from the new trilogy!

    • @tedthecat238
      @tedthecat238 Рік тому +5

      True !

    • @TobiAnimados
      @TobiAnimados Рік тому +5

      Agree, parodies of that trilogy are much much more enjoyable than the films.

  • @TheBlindRaven
    @TheBlindRaven Рік тому +127

    That is an amazing impression of Anakin. Sounds just like Haden Christiansen

  • @0ne0fmany
    @0ne0fmany 6 місяців тому +15

    "There it is... So strange, and so sad"
    A perfect description of the new trilogy.

  • @meektheghost
    @meektheghost Рік тому +67

    I don’t want to go back, they’re mean to me! 😂

  • @dareka9425
    @dareka9425 Рік тому +566

    The Jedi Order were peacekeepers but they were brought down by their hubris.
    The Jedi ghosts are more powerful but barely lift a finger to help anyone. All those slaughters and genocides could've been prevented. Ghost Obi Wan could've gone up to Luke and stop him from trying to kill Ben. Ghost Qui Gon and Yoda could go to Exegol and troll Palpatine by making his cloning experiments backfiring.

    • @Adrian-dl9nb
      @Adrian-dl9nb Рік тому +112

      The biggest feats performed by Jedi Ghosts were in physical places that had strong connections to The Force. It seems that in any other place they are as useful as a hologram.

    • @dareka9425
      @dareka9425 Рік тому +78

      @@Adrian-dl9nb Typical ghosts. In the meantime Siths are able to imbue objects with their hatred and hitch hike rides all over the galaxy
      Wait...what about when all the ghost Jedi who smite Palpatine through Rey in Exegol?

    • @rhettbaldwin2417
      @rhettbaldwin2417 Рік тому +27

      no because remember, no one can get to exegol through this magical cloud! one that you could definitely not just go slow and be cautious through!

    • @vitorhugobacicpessoavidal5448
      @vitorhugobacicpessoavidal5448 Рік тому +12

      I think they tried to explain it saiyng that it takes much power in the force to recall every fragment of conscience from the force to return as ghost, then it is not an ability you can use anytime you want, but an good explanation comes before not after the history is set

    • @grayski3324
      @grayski3324 Рік тому +9

      @@rhettbaldwin2417 Or you can just go around it

  • @delta18520
    @delta18520 Рік тому +125

    I would watch this version of the sequels than what we've got

  • @Smitty-hr2mg
    @Smitty-hr2mg Рік тому +19

    He actually totally nails Anakin's accent. The soft spoken and somewhat disjointed or staccato. Good job.

  • @Smalldragonshorts
    @Smalldragonshorts Рік тому +90

    Anakin knocking some sense into kylo.. 👍👍👍👍

  • @Ahhh_01
    @Ahhh_01 Рік тому +427

    This video gave kylo so much incel energy. Very accurate to his character

    • @darthheisenberg5983
      @darthheisenberg5983 Рік тому +3

      Yeah i felt that too

    • @HumanB312
      @HumanB312 Рік тому +10

      You should see his snl where he is an undercover boss

    • @chrism1503
      @chrism1503 Рік тому

      “…and I want to kill her.”

    • @maozedong7207
      @maozedong7207 Рік тому +18

      Which is sad, because in episode seven I thought Kylo could be incredibly cool, but as the episodes went on he was just a crybaby.

    • @DarthJarJarTheGodlike
      @DarthJarJarTheGodlike Рік тому +9

      @@maozedong7207 Episode 7 had so much potential but the way they portrayed Kylo basically ruined the series. He never won a single fight. C'mon, you're the big bad. What's the point if you're not dangerous.

  • @k1ng5urfer
    @k1ng5urfer Рік тому +70

    This right here... this, now this is a masterpiece.

  • @m.oudekerk63
    @m.oudekerk63 Рік тому +20

    Ben, you're not my successor, Ray holds the younglings slicer 9000

    • @X0iz1_Noob
      @X0iz1_Noob Рік тому +2

      LMAO this shit made me laugh.

  • @secretlygaming9609
    @secretlygaming9609 Рік тому +42

    “I reverted back to 22” that one got me 😂

  • @DaneGilly
    @DaneGilly Рік тому +22

    For the love of Alderaan, _DONT_ ask your dad about it

    • @WritingsOfQuill
      @WritingsOfQuill Рік тому +9

      Han, shortly after meeting Leia: "I don't know if I want to kill her or I'm beginning to like her"
      Chewie: *groans*

  • @xhag1x
    @xhag1x Рік тому +17

    I like how the Jedi just never share critical information like that. Its no wonder there is an eternal struggle between the Sith and the Jedi.

    • @DinoLoverGaming
      @DinoLoverGaming 2 місяці тому

      No, they don't share it because it's not what the plot calls for.

  • @thelostgirl101
    @thelostgirl101 Рік тому +10

    Turning on English Subtitles:
    "I'm Mannequin Skywalker"

  • @BucklingSwashes
    @BucklingSwashes Рік тому +16

    1:04 is such a fantastic face and honestly it's deserves more recognition.

  • @1984RD
    @1984RD Рік тому +16

    That awkward, “okay... bye...” at the end is gold.

  • @Goat-on-a-Stick
    @Goat-on-a-Stick Рік тому +8

    Thumbnail: Sequel hater vs Prequel lover

    • @jakeusaf9401
      @jakeusaf9401 Рік тому

      Sequel lover and prequel lover here.

    • @Johnny12575
      @Johnny12575 Рік тому

      The two tend to be the same person

  • @georgehouliaras7239
    @georgehouliaras7239 Рік тому +10

    I like how Anakin refers to the majority of his life as "Oh the Empire stuff"

  • @gannonfrank
    @gannonfrank Рік тому +12

    you got Anakins voice and facial expressions spot on and given how awkward both characters are this could be a cannon conversation lol

  • @Zorae42
    @Zorae42 Рік тому +53

    Great sketch. Honestly, I assume that Luke *did* tell Kylo about Anakin/Darth Vader's redemption. But being the 30 year old teenager that he is, Kylo was just like, "No, that's dumb. The dark side is cool, why would anyone turn away from it? You must be misremembering what happened". Because that's completely in character for him.
    I also just assumed that after showing up at the end of the original trilogy to say, "I'm good now, thanks!" Anakin assumed Luke would have things under control and peaced out up to heaven to go be with his dead wife or something.
    But this, this was still very satisfying.

    • @owensanfordstuff
      @owensanfordstuff 5 місяців тому

      He also thought like was jealous of his power, like Luke projected himself across the galaxy. You ain't got nothing on Luke 😂

  • @Lechuga1815
    @Lechuga1815 Рік тому +30

    I've had a dream of this exact conversation in place of the Han scene from episode 9. Not only would a force ghost have made more sense in the logic of the Star Wars universe than a hallucination, but it would have been more powerful for Ben to learn that Darth Vader turned to the light and died a jedi.

    • @DinoLoverGaming
      @DinoLoverGaming 2 місяці тому

      You're forgetting the fact that the plot calls for Kylo to be evil.

  • @hmac7187
    @hmac7187 Рік тому +7

    "I don't want to go back they're mean to me"
    the entire motivation for the sequels.

  • @ladyalicent705
    @ladyalicent705 9 місяців тому +8

    Anakin: But I turned to the light side, there’s just this disconnect here idk where that-
    Kylo: He tried to kill me in my sleep!
    Anakin: Who?
    Kylo: Luke! As soon as he sensed the evil in me he tried to kill me immediately!
    Anakin: That doesn’t sound like my son at all! You’re dealing with an imposter!

  • @Ivbo
    @Ivbo Рік тому +143

    In the TFA novelisation during the giant hologram scene, Snoke talks to Kylo about Vader turning back to the light. Kylo knows perfectly well what happened, Snoke views it as *“A momentary lapse of judgment in an otherwise exemplary life.”* they both know that Vader turned back but Snoke has got it into Kylo’s head that it was a moment of weakness and the biggest mistake Vader ever made, that’s why Kylo kills Han later on in the movie because of that conversation he has with Snoke. It’s the same scene where Kylo tells Snoke *“I will not be seduced”* and Snoke replies with *”We shall see…we shall see.”* but just extended, the movie only shows the end of that conversation and cuts out all the talk about Vader, they really should’ve just kept it all in the movie.

    • @mpnuorva
      @mpnuorva Рік тому +50

      Was that in the movie script though, or is it the novellization author trying to rationalize the situation they were handed?

    • @Ivbo
      @Ivbo Рік тому +45

      @@mpnuorva It was originally in the script but all of it got cut out to save time, the dialogue is as old as the movie itself. Look up *“Snoke instructs Kylo Ren (Extended)”* on UA-cam, the entire conversation they have is in that video, it’s great. I really wish they kept it all in the movie but I guess a prolonged scene of Kylo and Snoke talking wasn’t something they thought Star Wars fans would want to see at the time, but I personally would’ve loved it.
      Snoke says parts of it in the original teaser trailer for TFA, which means they filmed the whole conversation with Andy Serkis (Snoke). In the trailer when Snoke says *“The dark side…and the light.”* that’s straight from their conversation about Vader, but it’s nowhere to be found in the movie itself, it was 100% in the script.

    • @martinritchie7576
      @martinritchie7576 Рік тому +18

      It wouldn't of saved the sequel trilogy, they still would of sucked, should of followed the throne trilogy books like all star wars fans wanted in the first place.

    • @wabberjacky9951
      @wabberjacky9951 Рік тому +10

      If they had left this part in the movie the conversation with Snoke , and then added this scene after he ask his grandfather for advice and Anakin telling him the real truth would have been epic and could have taken the series in a whole different direction , that we would have never seen in the Star Wars story. But also in the theme of when obi-won shows up to help Luke in his most desperate times of conflict.

    • @blondetapperware8289
      @blondetapperware8289 Рік тому +1

      Someone said it, thank you!

  • @StarRider587
    @StarRider587 Рік тому +9

    Fun fact: canonwise, Kylo does know about Anakin's redemption, but Snoke frames it not as an act of redemption but a moment of weakness that resulted in Vader's death. That's why Kylo prays to Vader specifically and not Anakin, because he believes that Vader is who his grandfather truly was.
    But we couldnt get this exchange in the movies because that would've been too interesting

    • @ambiguous8661
      @ambiguous8661 2 місяці тому

      That isn't all. Kylo ren sure can be like nah mistake but nope, he will completely collapse (sorry Kylo ren but your evil gotta collapse when it harms others without consent true consent bro.) When 1:17 Helmet comes up. Nah. Kylo ain't gonna stay under the grasp of (if true) changed the story of pre-existing movies Disney's hand and will break free!!!! Or something. If it's good or/and better or/..and.... something.....................

  • @zakr7631
    @zakr7631 Рік тому +6

    This is better writing than the entire sequel trilogy

  • @erochicken
    @erochicken Рік тому +20

    I thought at the end when he was like there’s this girl that he was asking for dating advice and I thought Anakin was going to say tell her you don’t like sand that would be funny

  • @josephpark1707
    @josephpark1707 6 місяців тому +2

    this channel is so godly fun and these star wars videos are hilarious

  • @danielcox1744
    @danielcox1744 Рік тому +39

    Thanks for another well-done-worth-rewatching video, especially with the context of Anakin asking if Luke told Ben about his father's return of the Jedi😁 it is weird Ben Solo wasn't told by his mother, father, or Jedi master about the tragedy and redemption of Dart Vader😏

  • @joshuawesten8300
    @joshuawesten8300 Рік тому +8

    When he asked for relationship advice I thought Anakin was going to say talk about sand

  • @KevyNova
    @KevyNova Рік тому +8

    This conversation has been going through my head in various forms since seeing TFA. I can’t believe nobody working on the films thought of this.

    • @fairypoo
      @fairypoo Рік тому +1

      They might have thought of it but putting it into action is another thing. Seems to have taken some time to get Hayden back into acting again

    • @DinoLoverGaming
      @DinoLoverGaming 2 місяці тому

      If this happened, the plot would have been ruined, jackass.

  • @YamatoPower9000
    @YamatoPower9000 Рік тому +6

    I love the way they sound. So casual and reasonable and whatever.

  • @jairusjackson7799
    @jairusjackson7799 Рік тому +12

    I always thought the reason Anakin looks young as a ghost, is because as a force ghost you appear in a way that the living can recognize you. That's why Obi and Yoda came back like that, but Anakin wouldn't want Luke's image of him to be the burned disgraced version but rather him in his prime. I just think that's what he would like his son to see him as, I always found it cute

    • @herbosmoker848
      @herbosmoker848 Рік тому

      George Lucas changed the way the original rotj and then he became a young man

    • @jairusjackson7799
      @jairusjackson7799 Рік тому +2

      @@herbosmoker848 I know that's the technical reason, but I was thinking along the lines of an in-universe reason, or a story reason

    • @jairusjackson7799
      @jairusjackson7799 Рік тому +1

      @Dyl I like the sound of that actually, I might make that my head cannon

    • @TheTurnipKing
      @TheTurnipKing 6 місяців тому

      It annoys the fuck out of me that Lucas changed it.

  • @Solo13508
    @Solo13508 Рік тому +10

    Anakin reverted in age because that's what he looked like when he was last a Jedi

    • @andrewbecker1013
      @andrewbecker1013 Рік тому

      Literally, the movie's name is "Return of the Jedi" because Anakin returns to being a Jedi, and for decades we only had the real, original version of the movie where force-ghost Anakin is the old dude who'd just died...as a redeemed Jedi. So no.

  • @axlrosest
    @axlrosest Місяць тому +1

    "You can see eachother through the force? Sorry, this is all new for me" was pure genius

  • @masterchiefyoumind
    @masterchiefyoumind Рік тому +11

    Also Padme was part of his turn in a cannon Vader comic book but he goes to Polus Masa and hears her last words via recordings

  • @timurgianti8385
    @timurgianti8385 Рік тому +6

    So refreshing to see a low energy honest dialogue that makes sense!

  • @Foxyklan123
    @Foxyklan123 Рік тому +16

    Kylo forgot to watch the other movies didn't he.

  • @NonisLuck
    @NonisLuck Рік тому +14

    Some GREAT points were made!

  • @darktooth4576
    @darktooth4576 2 місяці тому +2

    Kylo: show me, grandfather.
    Anakin: Ben that’s quite enough or I’ll levitate to get the high ground on you.

  • @yospidey0078
    @yospidey0078 Рік тому +23

    Anakin’s voice is more accurate to the films than TCW was. Lol.

    • @danielbold6167
      @danielbold6167 Рік тому +1

      Same with Obi wan.

    • @jasonutty52
      @jasonutty52 Рік тому +1

      Clone wars voice is far superior though so I feel like it can stay the way it is.

    • @herbosmoker848
      @herbosmoker848 Рік тому +1

      Absolutely

    • @davedarius7346
      @davedarius7346 Рік тому +1

      @@jasonutty52 Superior? Idk bruh, Movie cannon>TCW Cannon...But okay!

  • @Redeyeclipse
    @Redeyeclipse Рік тому +25

    Yep this is better writing then the actual movie wow the plotholes has spoken

  • @lonehunter3618
    @lonehunter3618 Рік тому +7

    I love how casual the tone of these skits are while dissing the disney trilogy

  • @DefecTec
    @DefecTec Рік тому +8

    In the end it was actually love that saved Anakin from the Dark Side and redeemed him, his love for his son and Padme. And Luke naming his son Ben in the old canon makes much more sense being honest

  • @quentinsanders5096
    @quentinsanders5096 Рік тому +8

    Always thought Adam driver was the perfect mix of harrison ford and Hayden christiansen in the face at least

  • @jonlpage
    @jonlpage Рік тому +6

    That face at 1:04 :D

  • @DawlessHouseMusic
    @DawlessHouseMusic 2 місяці тому +1

    Watching these is like therapy.

  • @flyte707
    @flyte707 Рік тому +4

    Lmao "that was all palpatine's idea"

  • @RileyWritey
    @RileyWritey Рік тому +4

    This was my immediate thought back when TFA came out. Kylo's entire arc makes literally no sense.

  • @tmbpotatoe5975
    @tmbpotatoe5975 Рік тому +4

    i love how anakin is surprised by all this but still has the face of eh

  • @FavoriteSniper
    @FavoriteSniper Рік тому +2

    Out of all the flaws, this was something that was massively overlooked xD

  • @BOABModels
    @BOABModels Рік тому +4

    More! More! MORE!
    More content like this please, Matthew.

  • @MyCvll
    @MyCvll Рік тому +3

    Luke seeing his father turn to the light side was the biggest moment in his life. He definitely told Kylo about it.

  • @Black_pearl_adrift
    @Black_pearl_adrift Рік тому +2

    kylo's juvenile, kind of impotent rage was always what made his character interesting. Like this guy faced one trauma and said fuck it, evil time.

  • @jameslauriente1049
    @jameslauriente1049 Рік тому +4

    What a great video for my Saturday morning👌 thanks again Mr. Matthew

  • @diosoth
    @diosoth 3 місяці тому +4

    Supposedly they had plans to have Anakin do just this, but the scene would have played out with Kylo believing the Force was lying to him & that this wasn't really Vader he was speaking to. I think it got cut because Hayden wasn't available.

  • @artizzy2k2k
    @artizzy2k2k Рік тому +5

    This is what I always wondered. Why did Anakin not go " hey this is not what I want anymore stop"

  • @raphaeloking8647
    @raphaeloking8647 Рік тому +1

    Anakin: "Ask your Dad"
    Yeah... about that

  • @ChooseyClone
    @ChooseyClone Рік тому +2

    Your subtle impressions are spot on and hilarious

  • @Loxen86
    @Loxen86 Рік тому +4

    This is canon

  • @KlamparDafenrad
    @KlamparDafenrad 8 місяців тому +3

    This unironically shows up the biggest flaw in the sequels. After setting up how obsessed Ben was with Vader, WHY DID HE NEVER GET TO TALK TO ANAKIN? Makes too much sense I suppose.

  • @brentkoivopolo6200
    @brentkoivopolo6200 Рік тому +2

    Loved it. Had me laughing all through it. Good job!

  • @dawesome_sauce
    @dawesome_sauce Рік тому +1

    Matthew McClesky - giving us the Star Wars content we need in these dark times.

  • @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854
    @bottombarrelbudgetfilms1854 Рік тому +3

    This was really funny and genuinely well written

  • @The-Blue-Knight
    @The-Blue-Knight Рік тому +6

    This is great. I love star wars

  • @robertmcnamara4121
    @robertmcnamara4121 3 місяці тому

    These are just so brilliantly done!

  • @BumSmacker
    @BumSmacker 4 місяці тому +1

    "after I turned to the light again.. I... reverted back to 22, im not sure how that works, the force is weird.." had been SOBBING

  • @theodoresherman5707
    @theodoresherman5707 Рік тому +4

    3:20 wasn't it the dreams that got him into that mess? All things considered hs relationship with Padme was pretty healthy for like 3 years

    • @meridaskywalker7816
      @meridaskywalker7816 Рік тому

      I wouldn't blame Padmé, but Anakin had a kind of obsession over her

  • @johannesseyfried7933
    @johannesseyfried7933 Рік тому +4

    To be fair to Kylo: Wearing the Mask for intimidation is actually perfectly valid. 😄

  • @tamisthewizard3199
    @tamisthewizard3199 6 місяців тому +1

    The helmet comparison was beautiful

  • @jesse_cole
    @jesse_cole 5 місяців тому +1

    "When I died, I reverted back to 22... weird... Obi Wan remained Alec Guinness for some reason, though... and Yoda still looks at least 800... trying to wrap my head around this..."

  • @rjmacready505
    @rjmacready505 Рік тому +3

    I am so annoyed by how good the writing in this UA-cam video is compared to the actual movies. Awesome job!