I hunted for many decades. I'm 85 now and no longer run the woods. I don't care what you wear, just sit perfectly still, and I mean STILL. I've been wearing blaze orange and had flocks of turkeys surround me. Turkeys can see colors but if that color doesn't move, they won't spook. I've had deer come so close I could have touched them with my gun barrel. I even had a squirrel jump on my shoulder one time (scared the poop out of me). Just sit sill. Don't even blink.
Great message, I'm wondering if just a regular set of coveralls in light brown with orange to show us from others will be ok. Being older I've always wanted to hunt deer.
@robertduncan2742 Deer will settle if you are settled, and not staring them down as paparazzi or predator..(one in the same if you think about it) *Deer focus on behavioral cues of intent more than they "recognize faces", and sights, sounds, smells that are not routine. Be routine actor that doesn't affect them, scent all over area, they won't really care..so long as you are routine and non threatening. Stand around, sit or follow chickadee, and likely either you or deer will stumble upon each other..it sets you up for when Deer will be more concerned with bucks chasing, you want to be "4th string' watching bucks come in as I was tonite.. (Can't hunt at nite, but sure can watch , learn a lot..) *Mynight videos suck in quality of picture, but being there within 30' of sparring, rubbing, heavy scrapes, doe tending, etc is PRICELESS experience.
@@robertduncan2742 You should avoid wearing brown in the woods, especially light brown. That's the same color as deer and some amateur hunter may think you're a deer.
Agree. My Dad instructed me to to always be Still. This past Saturday,a six point walked up and bedded down ten yards behind me. Never got a shot after turning my head slightly. He jumped and was gone
What I've noticed/ learned from actually sneaking up on deer, the more your camo matches the environment the less likely they will spot you, and it usually takes two things to spook them, sight including movement, sounds, smell. Any two. What do deer see? Well, they're in the woods and fields all day and night. They're used to seeing it, introduce ANYTHING different, and they notice it. Green camo orange, it looks different to them. How they perceived the color, doesn't matter. It's just different. So, again, the more closely your camo matches the environment the less chance the deer will spot you. The best store bought camo , guess what, looks different ! I've tested several, then I tested all natural, by spraying my store bought with a spray adhesive and rolling around on the forest floor in the leaves and pine needles and dirt etc. making sure I was pretty much all covered then I prepped a pull over face mask the same way. I found, that I could quite easily walk right up on deer, still being careful with movement and smell and sound. Even when they caught me moving, I'd stop and wait for them to relax and move closer. In one instance, a mature doe, being suspicious of me, walked right up to me, smelled me and backed off, but didn't leave the area, just kept checking on me. I only sit to rest up, the rest of the hunt, I'm on the move, super slow, like slow motion slow. Turning my head very slowly to look around. With each short step, the view through the woods changes. And the deer could be coming from behind as well. Hunt the way a deer is alert, blend into the landscape. Be careful they don't step on you.
Being in my late 60's i always wore my wool checkered red and black jacket with my solid green wool pants and always fill my tag with great looking bucks!
The conjecture on a deers sense of smell is all opinion, I’ve literally watch deer use their sense of smell to pinpoint my direction(they did this by first detecting a faint scent, when they couldn’t make me out against the wood line, they moved left to right until they couldn’t smell me, and eventually made a complete circle and were able to pinpoint my location to within 10 feet). They would move away and slowly move forward all while smelling the air until they reached around the same distance(60yds), then they would stop. They never saw, or heard me, but they knew I was there so they left. They did all of this using their sense of smell.
one thing I don't think I heard in this interview is the best color combination to break up your outline or does color really matter. would having something like a light gray base color with black lines on it work just as well as a mixture of colors. they also talked about different fabrics reflecting colors but what's the best materials. I'm pretty sure any spandex polyester blends or even maybe what they use for outer shell jackets wouldn't be good
I wear tan Carhartt bibs, whatever camo jacket I grab to stay warm, and I always have black coffee and snacks on me. Plus, I pee every hour out of my stand. All the gimmicks and studies are wasted on me. I fill freezers with my bow.
We all used to be told animals could not see colors. They've since found that horses see green & 'yellow', (possibly some blue - I don't remember right now) which makes perfect sense since their food is basically green and yellow,
You don’t NEED camo but.. anything that helps stack the odds in your favor, helps. Without camo you basically cannot move at all. Using appropriate camo, you can get away with WAY more movement. You can actually stalk a deer and close the distance FAR more effectively that wearing blue jeans ie. If a deer hears you or sees a bit of movement it will not be spooked nearly as easy if you’re wearing effective camo than if he sees a weird shaped blob which is suspicious. Your odds of being undetected are simply higher if you use camo. It’s common sense.
Interesting video, here,s something I seen, forester,s painted 2 blue swipe,s on a tree which was on a trail , I was in tree stand, a small buck came at a fast walk down trail , he looked ahead at those blue swipes and slammed on the brakes, then looked for a short time and went on right past the swipe,s, I heard they see blue somewhere but no doubt this deer seen something.
I am red green colorblind and have been hunting for 55 years. I suppose over time I trained myself to see shapes that were out of place. I can see a deer standing perfectly still just because it doesn't fit the landscape.
i'd usually spot deer because of their horizontal back-line. it's not natural in the woods, amongst vertical trees. but that's all changed now, since the pine-beetle killed much of our forests and there's now deadfall everywhere in the woods.
Nearly 40 years ago I picked up a camo- jacket from a indoor market. This had a bright yellow-green background with 2" wide dk grey and green stripes. In woodland and mixed grassland, I was told, just seemed to disappear. I shot loads of rabbits, and deer who did not appear to be able to pick me out; some walking towards me stamping their front hoves. (I also wore a face mask) The only camo- I have seen that matches this years ago was the American discontinued ASAT (All Scenery All Terrain). I tried to purchase the grey version for use on the marsh, but they had run out of stock.
White tail Deer don't see color. I was setting on a log next to a beach tree and 2 White Tail Deer were coming right to me. I leaned on the tree and the deer walked to about 10' from me and stopped. They looked around and even right at me and did not know I was there. I didn't move and they just walked by and walked out of site. The wind was blowing at me so they didn't smell me.
Unless the deer have told you how does anyone really know what they can see and can't?Wear any colors you want and don't move.Color don't scare them.Movement and smell does.If you wear your orange hat and vest and they see you move they are running!You can hunt wearing pink and yellow and the deer could care less.But if they see you move a tiny bit then the flags are coming up and say goodbye!
In the full interview Dr. Karl Miller explained how they conducted the study to test whitetail vision. You can check it out in the video description if you'd like.
@@jeffhays1968 has anybody climbed inside of a deers eye and looked out? I don't think so nobody knows what colors they can see.Unless they or he is the creator.
@@JosephRoberts-si2tj There are structures inside all eyes that can be looked at to see how the eye ''sees". Cones and rods and retina structures. So science has a decent( but not complete) idea of what the animals can see. Deer see blue very well they say, but me and my jeans get our deer every season mostly so there's that.
When I was little we didn’t even own camouflage We whore blue jeans and some kind of darker T shirt or whatever coat we had when it was cold out side We used to rabbit hunt a lot and had the really tough Carhart pants made for moving through thick briers and under growth So that’s what we first started wearing when I started deer hunting I have been hunting in a 8 or 9 ft. Ladder stand wearing blue jeans and whatever coat I owned at the time and As long as you were still and they didn’t smell you They would walk right by you
The same happened to me in 1979. She put her nose on the tip of my boot. Jumped straight up and did a 180* turn. Ran 5 feet stopped and then just walked off.
This was also before hunting regulations and cartridge regulations. Now days navigating the regulations is half the battle. In the Midwest you basically have a week a year, limited land to be hunted, short range ammo. But I don’t go crazy with camo. I wear basically green and brown plaid of some sort personally and green pants.
@@Meh-hr7gq yeah I agree. I do have a some camo that I wear mainly for early season hunting. It’s just cotton long sleeves and nothing fancy. Most of my hunting gear is wool and there isn’t a reason for it in the warm part of the season.
@@ChavsADV 🤣 I sometimes wear a camo shirt dove hunting. More about “belonging” to the group. 🤣🤣. I still wear camo duck hunting because my friends all freak out if I don’t. “They didn’t commit because they saw you”. 🤷♂️🤣
My problem is this, they compare a deer's eyes with ours just like they do every other animal. How do they really know what color a deer or any animal can or can't see? The critters walked up and said hey we're color blind to this or that color? Sit still and don't move unless necessary.
I promise you don’t need camo. Walmart durable work pants and jackets or Carhart in earth tone colors is just fine. Took me a long time to decide Camo is a waste. It’s all about movement. I hunt in the ground in brown pant and a green Carhart jacket. Sit still and they will walk right by.
Need and have bigger advantage are different things. We "need" very little in life, but there's a lot of things that make jobs easier and camo is one of them
Material is more important than camouflage. Cotton or wool has far less uv light reflection. Most of today's modern hunting clothes are some synthetic fiber that looks like a white lab coat using night vision gear. I believe deer can see very much like our night vision technology works. I do know fir a fact that they can see orange like a neon sign. I've got too many examples of that.
I got my 2 bucks last year sitting on my butt in a cut soy bean field with blue jeans and orange vest and hat. They came into 20 yards they were walking straight to me maybe they thought I was a tree stump. Deer see weird I've watched deer that see something they can't make out bob head up, down, left and right.
Camo is a complete money maker nothing more , i have hunted deer for 50 yrs now and don't use camo to get my deer , deer don't were camo ! How many times have you had one sneak rite up on you and you never saw it coming !
I hunted for many decades. I'm 85 now and no longer run the woods. I don't care what you wear, just sit perfectly still, and I mean STILL. I've been wearing blaze orange and had flocks of turkeys surround me. Turkeys can see colors but if that color doesn't move, they won't spook. I've had deer come so close I could have touched them with my gun barrel. I even had a squirrel jump on my shoulder one time (scared the poop out of me). Just sit sill. Don't even blink.
Yep, can't count the 5', stomping,hold your ground!!
*You're exhibiting the same behavior as a bedded deer..
Non-predatory..
Great message, I'm wondering if just a regular set of coveralls in light brown with orange to show us from others will be ok. Being older I've always wanted to hunt deer.
@robertduncan2742 Deer will settle if you are settled, and not staring them down as paparazzi or predator..(one in the same if you think about it)
*Deer focus on behavioral cues of intent more than they "recognize faces", and sights, sounds, smells that are not routine. Be routine actor that doesn't affect them, scent all over area, they won't really care..so long as you are routine and non threatening. Stand around, sit or follow chickadee, and likely either you or deer will stumble upon each other..it sets you up for when Deer will be more concerned with bucks chasing, you want to be "4th string' watching bucks come in as I was tonite..
(Can't hunt at nite, but sure can watch , learn a lot..)
*Mynight videos suck in quality of picture, but being there within 30' of sparring, rubbing, heavy scrapes, doe tending, etc is PRICELESS experience.
@@robertduncan2742 You should avoid wearing brown in the woods, especially light brown. That's the same color as deer and some amateur hunter may think you're a deer.
I believe FRED BEAR’S take on camouflage was stated as “ Sit still be quiet “.
Agree. My Dad instructed me to to always be Still. This past Saturday,a six point walked up and bedded down ten yards behind me. Never got a shot after turning my head slightly. He jumped and was gone
What I've noticed/ learned from actually sneaking up on deer, the more your camo matches the environment the less likely they will spot you, and it usually takes two things to spook them, sight including movement, sounds, smell. Any two. What do deer see? Well, they're in the woods and fields all day and night. They're used to seeing it, introduce ANYTHING different, and they notice it. Green camo orange, it looks different to them. How they perceived the color, doesn't matter. It's just different. So, again, the more closely your camo matches the environment the less chance the deer will spot you. The best store bought camo , guess what, looks different ! I've tested several, then I tested all natural, by spraying my store bought with a spray adhesive and rolling around on the forest floor in the leaves and pine needles and dirt etc. making sure I was pretty much all covered then I prepped a pull over face mask the same way. I found, that I could quite easily walk right up on deer, still being careful with movement and smell and sound. Even when they caught me moving, I'd stop and wait for them to relax and move closer. In one instance, a mature doe, being suspicious of me, walked right up to me, smelled me and backed off, but didn't leave the area, just kept checking on me. I only sit to rest up, the rest of the hunt, I'm on the move, super slow, like slow motion slow. Turning my head very slowly to look around. With each short step, the view through the woods changes. And the deer could be coming from behind as well. Hunt the way a deer is alert, blend into the landscape. Be careful they don't step on you.
Being in my late 60's i always wore my wool checkered red and black jacket with my solid green wool pants and always fill my tag with great looking bucks!
The conjecture on a deers sense of smell is all opinion, I’ve literally watch deer use their sense of smell to pinpoint my direction(they did this by first detecting a faint scent, when they couldn’t make me out against the wood line, they moved left to right until they couldn’t smell me, and eventually made a complete circle and were able to pinpoint my location to within 10 feet). They would move away and slowly move forward all while smelling the air until they reached around the same distance(60yds), then they would stop. They never saw, or heard me, but they knew I was there so they left. They did all of this using their sense of smell.
one thing I don't think I heard in this interview is the best color combination to break up your outline or does color really matter. would having something like a light gray base color with black lines on it work just as well as a mixture of colors. they also talked about different fabrics reflecting colors but what's the best materials. I'm pretty sure any spandex polyester blends or even maybe what they use for outer shell jackets wouldn't be good
Whoever set this guy so that it looks like he has antlers is savage! 😂😂
I wear tan Carhartt bibs, whatever camo jacket I grab to stay warm, and I always have black coffee and snacks on me. Plus, I pee every hour out of my stand. All the gimmicks and studies are wasted on me. I fill freezers with my bow.
We all used to be told animals could not see colors. They've since found that horses see green & 'yellow', (possibly some blue - I don't remember right now) which makes perfect sense since their food is basically green and yellow,
Very interesting information coming from the experts! Keep up the informative podcasts guys.
You don’t NEED camo but.. anything that helps stack the odds in your favor, helps.
Without camo you basically cannot move at all. Using appropriate camo, you can get away with WAY more movement. You can actually stalk a deer and close the distance FAR more effectively that wearing blue jeans ie.
If a deer hears you or sees a bit of movement it will not be spooked nearly as easy if you’re wearing effective camo than if he sees a weird shaped blob which is suspicious. Your odds of being undetected are simply higher if you use camo. It’s common sense.
Also it is easier to identify the clothes you don't want to bring into the house to avoid an ear ache from the wife for the smell.
Awesome podcast. Im glad Georgia is being talked about on here. It’s a lot different deer hunting than neighboring states.
Need more on Florida hunts
@@heavydieselengine8989Hunt with gators? Nope, you guys are nuts!
@@RT-wq8bd lol, not all spots have gators
Interesting video, here,s something I seen, forester,s painted 2 blue swipe,s on a tree which was on a trail , I was in tree stand, a small buck came at a fast walk down trail , he looked ahead at those blue swipes and slammed on the brakes, then looked for a short time and went on right past the swipe,s, I heard they see blue somewhere but no doubt this deer seen something.
That’s an interesting observation about the deer’s reaction to the blue swipes!
I am red green colorblind and have been hunting for 55 years. I suppose over time I trained myself to see shapes that were out of place. I can see a deer standing perfectly still just because it doesn't fit the landscape.
i'd usually spot deer because of their horizontal back-line. it's not natural in the woods, amongst vertical trees. but that's all changed now, since the pine-beetle killed much of our forests and there's now deadfall everywhere in the woods.
Nearly 40 years ago I picked up a camo- jacket from a indoor market. This had a bright yellow-green background with 2" wide dk grey and green stripes. In woodland and mixed grassland, I was told, just seemed to disappear. I shot loads of rabbits, and deer who did not appear to be able to pick me out; some walking towards me stamping their front hoves. (I also wore a face mask) The only camo- I have seen that matches this years ago was the American discontinued ASAT (All Scenery All Terrain). I tried to purchase the grey version for use on the marsh, but they had run out of stock.
ASAT and PREDATOR are the best camos made. i have the PREDATOR coveralls in three different colours. deer literally look right through you.
I never heard anyone talk so much and say absolutely nothing
You've never listened to Jordan Peterson then 😅
Ha , that's good !@@supersawyer358
White tail Deer don't see color. I was setting on a log next to a beach tree and 2 White Tail Deer were coming right to me. I leaned on the tree and the deer walked to about 10' from me and stopped. They looked around and even right at me and did not know I was there. I didn't move and they just walked by and walked out of site. The wind was blowing at me so they didn't smell me.
They see blue the way humans see blaze orange and red. That's proven science.
@@RT-wq8bd Only the deer knows for sure.
@@RT-wq8bd if they do, then they don't care that much. i, and i'm sure plenty of others, have killed many deer wearing blue jeans.
Unless the deer have told you how does anyone really know what they can see and can't?Wear any colors you want and don't move.Color don't scare them.Movement and smell does.If you wear your orange hat and vest and they see you move they are running!You can hunt wearing pink and yellow and the deer could care less.But if they see you move a tiny bit then the flags are coming up and say goodbye!
In the full interview Dr. Karl Miller explained how they conducted the study to test whitetail vision. You can check it out in the video description if you'd like.
I still wear jeans even though deer see blue very well.
@@jeffhays1968 has anybody climbed inside of a deers eye and looked out? I don't think so nobody knows what colors they can see.Unless they or he is the creator.
@@JosephRoberts-si2tj There are structures inside all eyes that can be looked at to see how the eye ''sees". Cones and rods and retina structures. So science has a decent( but not complete) idea of what the animals can see. Deer see blue very well they say, but me and my jeans get our deer every season mostly so there's that.
I hunt with a bow with military bdu's they never pick me out, but any other clothes i get busted, but i hunt on the ground.
Asbell wool, any pattern.
When I was little we didn’t even own camouflage We whore blue jeans and some kind of darker T shirt or whatever coat we had when it was cold out side We used to rabbit hunt a lot and had the really tough Carhart pants made for moving through thick briers and under growth So that’s what we first started wearing when I started deer hunting I have been hunting in a 8 or 9 ft. Ladder stand wearing blue jeans and whatever coat I owned at the time and As long as you were still and they didn’t smell you They would walk right by you
I don't care what you say I've gotten found more by a deer smelling me than seeing me. They know to look because they smell you!!
I was wearing orange and had a doe walk up and put her nose to me never bothered her at all
The same happened to me in 1979. She put her nose on the tip of my boot. Jumped straight up and did a 180* turn. Ran 5 feet stopped and then just walked off.
Remember. Deer and ducks were almost hunted into extinction by guys in red flannel coats and hats. Camo is over rated.
This was also before hunting regulations and cartridge regulations. Now days navigating the regulations is half the battle. In the Midwest you basically have a week a year, limited land to be hunted, short range ammo. But I don’t go crazy with camo. I wear basically green and brown plaid of some sort personally and green pants.
@@ChavsADV I wear earth tone work clothes. It’s all about movement. Camo works on humans, not so much on deer. They see the movement.
@@Meh-hr7gq yeah I agree. I do have a some camo that I wear mainly for early season hunting. It’s just cotton long sleeves and nothing fancy. Most of my hunting gear is wool and there isn’t a reason for it in the warm part of the season.
@@ChavsADV 🤣 I sometimes wear a camo shirt dove hunting. More about “belonging” to the group. 🤣🤣. I still wear camo duck hunting because my friends all freak out if I don’t. “They didn’t commit because they saw you”. 🤷♂️🤣
They talk about in this episode that red flannel is actual a great pattern to break up your human outline.
My problem is this, they compare a deer's eyes with ours just like they do every other animal. How do they really know what color a deer or any animal can or can't see? The critters walked up and said hey we're color blind to this or that color? Sit still and don't move unless necessary.
I had a red wool jacket on.
I promise you don’t need camo. Walmart durable work pants and jackets or Carhart in earth tone colors is just fine. Took me a long time to decide Camo is a waste. It’s all about movement. I hunt in the ground in brown pant and a green Carhart jacket. Sit still and they will walk right by.
You're giving to much information. Tan and green.
@@Red-vn4xq point being. Just solids. They can see you unless you move.
@@Red-vn4xq deer and ducks were almost hunted into extinction by guys in red flannel hats and coats. 🤣
You definitely don't need camo to be successful
Need and have bigger advantage are different things. We "need" very little in life, but there's a lot of things that make jobs easier and camo is one of them
Material is more important than camouflage. Cotton or wool has far less uv light reflection. Most of today's modern hunting clothes are some synthetic fiber that looks like a white lab coat using night vision gear. I believe deer can see very much like our night vision technology works. I do know fir a fact that they can see orange like a neon sign. I've got too many examples of that.
I got my 2 bucks last year sitting on my butt in a cut soy bean field with blue jeans and orange vest and hat. They came into 20 yards they were walking straight to me maybe they thought I was a tree stump. Deer see weird I've watched deer that see something they can't make out bob head up, down, left and right.
The primary colors are red, blue and yellow so our eyes see those colors and combinations there of. Green is a combination of yellow and blue.
ok, DIDNT really tell us what they see at all???? So what is best camo pattern...
Deer see ultraviolets your clothing absorbs from the sun and washing detergents. Any rain gear prevents this. I use frog togg..
Not much said here but a little
They struggle with shades of grey and black.
Skip all the bullshit and get to the colors.
Camo is a complete money maker nothing more , i have hunted deer for 50 yrs now and don't use camo to get my deer , deer don't were camo ! How many times have you had one sneak rite up on you and you never saw it coming !
Dress like a deer with big antlers to fool them.
So much blah, blah, blah on this channel.
Have you ever looked through adeerseyes.or smelled through their nose
.if you haven't you don't know anything anything about it.
Or heard with their ears!
Pathetic waste of time !