Yamaha FP9 Bass Drum Pedals | First Impressions & Demo
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- Опубліковано 23 січ 2019
- Designed with a nod to the old classic Yamaha racing colors, the Yamaha FP9 bass drum pedals give you superior speed and maximum playability. You've got the durability of the hardware but also flexibility allowing you to customize it to the perfect adjustments for your playing style.
Joe Siros takes us through the features including the long footboard for extra power, the tension adjustment and ball bearing system that allows you to really dial the action, and the ability to change the weight on the beater to make sure it's just the right feel.
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this pedal is like a cheat code. it's incredible.
I am absolutely in love with this pedal! Best musical investment I ever made! When you see the positive energy beaming from people when they review it in videos, you already know its gonna be great before you get it. Its awesome when companies actually put time and honest effort into their product!
How does he fail to mention one of the biggest features???? the adjustable cam.
Love it. I need a FP9 in my collection
Looks like a decent pedal can't wait to try it out.
It is great pedal. If You play jazz, funk etc love durability and action
I just got the chain double. It’s my fav pedal I’ve ever used. Spring tension comes factory set really high. So turn that tension knob counter clockwise about 12 to 16 clicks, move the beaters in two inches and it’s sick. Drive shaft Is jacked!!!
This! A thousand times this! The FP9 is by far the best pedal I've ever experienced. I had the DW 5000 in about 1998 or 1999 (it was my first good pedal), then a couple weeks later I switched to the Iron Cobra which was a big upgrade for me in terms of feel. Then about 7 years later, I grabbed the Yamaha Flying Dragon Direct Drive and I had that until last year. It finally needed to be replaced due to some mechanical issues, so I bought the current version of the Iron Cobra and it was like going back to heaven. The entire time I had the Flying Dragons, I struggled to play certain things but I didn't know it was the pedals. It must've been because the Iron Cobra makes my playing much easier. I guess I don't do well with direct drives. I don't know.
So I was extremely happy with the Iron Cobras, but only until I had a gig outside at night next to a huge lake and it was extremely humid with no wind. So shortly after sunset, my footboards became damp from all the moisture in the air and my shoes stuck to my pedals in a very unpleasant way. I struggled very hard to play just *simple* stuff, so I was very unhappy. A part of my frustration was, several months before the mechanical failure of the Yamaha Flying Dragons, I discovered that I play much better in just socks which was great on the smooth Flying Dragons footboards, but you can't play in socks with the Iron Cobras because the boards are a raw, rough metal surface. I tried playing for just a few minutes in socks, and I had tons and tons of fibers all over the pedals and on the floor around them. One pair of socks would get destroyed in a short amount of time.
After trying the FP9s though, omg. I no longer care about the Iron Cobras - or any other pedal for that matter. I'm still going to keep my Iron Cobras because they're great to have just in case, but the FP9s blow them away for me. The FP9s strike me as possibly the best pedals on the entire market. Not only do they have a fantastic feel and are of extremely high quality and they're everything Yamaha says they are (and more), but they work equally well for playing in socks or with shoes. With shoes, they give a very grippy grip, if I may put it that way. It's like the grip of a super-clean polished basketball court. It's like what you'd expect rubber to do against glass or something: 100% friction, and I know some drummers *love* that (so that's why I'm saying so - I think someone will read this and go "oh I like the sound of that"). Grip hinders my playing quite a bit though, so I'm using just socks, and I *love* it. It's a big relief to finally be able to play in socks again.
Oh, and Larry, I ended up making the adjustments you said you had to make (it just occurred naturally), which took the FP9 to a much higher level. I was super happy with these pedals *before* making any adjustments. I adjusted the beater angle to match the factory beater angle of the Iron Cobra and that instantly made the FP9 perfect for me. Then I loosened the spring tension over and over and over until I probably loosened it by like you said, 12-16 clicks (I'm guessing) because I was noticing I was getting some unusual fatigue after long practice sessions even though I wasn't thinking the spring tension was too high. After that, I lowered the footboard slightly by re-aligning the notches. After all these adjustments, I thought I had found my Holy Grail of pedals. I wasn't done yet. :) See the next paragraph.
I made one last adjustment, and this one is unexpectedly huge: I tried the nylon straps. I'm speechless. I've been playing for 26 years and all 26 of these years, I've known about strap drives but I always kind of scoffed at them and I never saw them as a better option than double chain drives (I think I saw them as stupid or something like that - I just saw them as something I don't want to try). After trying the included nylon straps though, there is absolutely no way I am ever going back to chains. Ever. Everything for me with the feel and what I can do because of the straps is just *better*.
That was actually the second time I tried the straps. The FIRST time I tried them was before I made any adjustments at all. This is interesting. When I tried the nylon straps before making the adjustments, I had trouble playing ultra-quick 2 hits in a row using heel-toe. I could make the beater do the motions, but I wasn't hitting the head. I could do simple stuff fine and I loved the feel, but ultra-quick two hits in a row using heel-toe wasn't happening. I put the chains back on and boom, I was instantly back in action. So I thought that the chains were better and I thought that straps weren't an option for me. I was quite wrong. Straps are quite noticeably superior for me now that my FP9s are customized for me with the adjusted spring tension, beater angles, and footboard angles. I think switching to the straps took my FP9s to the highest possible level they can be at for me, and possibly at the highest level that any pedal could be at for me.
@@TwoCablesOCN There's one more thing you can do with your pedal, which is to get the gibraltar kevlar straps. Trust me they bring yamaha pedals to a whole new level.
What's the difference between those and Yamaha's straps?
@@TwoCablesOCN wow I ve wanted to buy Iron Cobras, but I also play with socks, because it just feels better. And I ve never thought the fact, that as it seems Iron Cobras arent good for playing with socks. Now I think about getting the FP 9's, because you kind of convinced me with your explanation.🤔 So thank you so much, I think I'll have to go with the Yamaha's. 😉 If I buy them I will return here and say how I find them😉😝
Also sry for my maybe not so good english, Im a german Guy.
It's ok. I understood you. :)
Thank you for your comment. It made me very happy to learn that I helped you.
I would love to see what you think of the FP9. Yamaha has done a fantastic job on this one.
Would love to see the double pedal in a offset version one day.
Dont forget not to mention the PRICE ?.
Never seen a ball bearing on the bottom of the spring with the tension adjustment? Has he heard of a small company called DW with the 9000 and 5000 series pedals?
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Who does he play for?
Isn't a long board considered more benefited for speed, not power (as he says)?
Yeah he seemed more like a player who just would use whatever than a gear head. They should have gear heads demo new gear. Failed to mention the adjustable cam even which gives three pedals feels in one pedal. Lol
I have the FP9s and I'm not looking for speed or power, and now that I have the FP9s, I can tell you that longboards aren't just for speed and power. They feel great. I think I found the Holy Grail of bass drum pedals for me.
Ordered mine
How do you like it so far??
Larry Tate they were back ordered so I got a refund 😭
Oh man. They’re in stock now in some places.
I’m trying to decide if I should go for it. Too new to find any honest reviews still.
Larry Tate I would buy it!! I just was needed the cash !!! Beautiful pedal
Is it a long board pedal!
it's a 3 minute video. you didn't catch 1:40 ? he doesn't specifically say it is or isn't but it's pretty obvious it is. it looks kind of like a speed cobra, long board but still has a heel plate unlike axis or trick where the entire footboard is playable
Please tell me single bass drum price?
acoustic Rj $329
Looks like a great pedal, and the features are definitely of the highest standards, but I'm not so sure about that beater. Yamaha always makes amazing, simple, built-like-a-tank, no nonsense hardware, but they've always had a weak point with their beaters.. They should have come up with a different beater that also features a plastic side, but that is much more practical than the previous 2 sided beater they had with their FP9500C. According to my late friend who worked at my local drum shop, he said that customers were complaining about how fast the felt side wasted away and how uneven and loose it would get from the shaft. Yamaha pedals are fantastic, but you always end up changing that crappy beater. Pearl's quad beater is good, but still top heavy. Dw's is much too heavy as a standard beater, which is why they offer fly-weight and light weight beaters. Mapex was the first company to do weights inside a beater, but they're still heavy even without the weights in them. I think the best beater ive ever played is the vintage DW brown two way beater, which was made lighter than its modern counter part. It just had the perfect weight balance. Tama's new beaters are not only aesthetically unappealing, but weird and unbalanced. Their vintage cobra beaters were much better. Whatever the case, I'm still going to try this pedal out and see for myself. If I know Yamaha, the pedal won't disappoint, but the beater will..
I had a Yamaha Flying Dragon Double Pedal for 13 years - from 2005 until last summer, and I never had any problems with its beaters. Yes, they were just basic round Felt beaters, but the only Felt that I lost off the beaters was just a bit of dust on the 1st day I used them. After I lost that initial bit of dust, my bass drum's batter head would remain clean day after day after day. I didn't have a constant mess of white felt dust, and I have indeed experienced that before with other Felt beaters.
Before I got the Flying Dragons, I had the Iron Cobra double pedal. So I had it from about 1998 until 2005. That beater never stopped losing felt. Fortunately, I didn't wear the felt down so far that the plastic body of the beater head was hitting, but I think it would have ended up being that way by today if I had kept using them. Fortunately, it's very easy to get new beaters from just about any music store - or even just Amazon.
Last year, I bought the current version of the Iron Cobra double pedals to replace my Flying Dragons. Wow. They are freakin' awesome (especially after removing the Cobra Coils). They're just like the old Iron Cobras I had, but better. The Power-Strike beaters are just as advertised as well. They give more attack, and the more aggressive design of the beater head really does provide a greater sense of control during faster passages. I also find the bass drum sound I get is punchier. It seems the fundamental is dropped a little. I love it. Unfortunately, the Felt on these is doing the same thing the Felt did on the old Iron Cobra beaters. I can tell that it's constantly wearing away because every single time I have dusted my drums (which is just about every week), there's Felt dust on my batter head - especially after louder gigs. I never had this problem with the beaters that came with the Flying Dragons.
Anyway, for many reasons I can go into later, I ordered the DFP-9C and it is currently scheduled for delivery this Wednesday (July 3rd). I'm very excited! Since this is all about beaters though, I'll try to stay focused. So, I plan to use its beaters for a while just to see what I think because I have honestly forgotten what it sounds and feels like to use round Felt beaters. I've come to love the Tama Power-Strike beaters so much that I really don't want to use anything else, but I love the look of the beaters the FP9 comes with and I also love the spring-loaded plunger system for adding or removing those weights and I definitely want to try that. In my experience with Yamaha beaters (and hardware in general) so far, I don't expect to have any problems. I expect nothing but the best. I expect to be absolutely 100% happy. The only question that's on my mind is whether I'll be happy with the sound and feel of round Felt beaters. I just don't remember what they're like.
There is something worth pointing out though: there are tons of aftermarket beaters you can buy. You don't have to use the beaters that come with whatever pedals you buy. In fact, every gigging drummer should have a few different beaters in their stick bag that are fairly different from each other (or very different, depending on your gigs or bands you're in) because then you can have a few different options for sound and feel. So I think it doesn't make much sense to complain about the stock beaters because you can use whatever beaters you want.
I have my FP9s now and the beaters are absolutely fantastic. I am much happier with these than I was with the TAMA Power-Strike beaters. The beaters that come with the FP9s are very hard felt beaters. The Power-Strike beaters have a much softer felt. I have a DW Performance Series kit and for the first time since buying it (in 2016), I'm finally getting the sound out of the bass drum that I have been looking for and expecting. I love the feel of these beaters as well.
@@TwoCablesOCN just wondering if you didnt like the newer iron cobra beater did you ever try the newer speed cobras? I had the old felt pointy ones on my e-kit so I couldn't hear any difference..such a dumb design, you know that thing was gonna flatten within weeks/months. but I got the new speed cobra dp on my acoustic kit and I really love the new beaters with the rubber instead of felt. it really gives off a full rounder sound.
how is the new yamaha? it looks really cool and if I was in the market for a new pedal I'd definitely consider them. but then again I just saw the dyna sync (been out of the loop for about a year or so) and those would have to get priority over anything. I remember many many years ago I had a yamaha dp, I don't remember what they were called, just that the slave had a slot for a beater so I'm guessing they could be broken down into 2 singles. even at that young age with barely any knowledge of good or not so good quality, I remember those being very smooth and easy to play. the main had no heel plate, only the slave. hope you're enjoying the new pedals!
@@sjang816 I loved the felt Power-Strike beaters until I got my Yamaha FP9. The sound I got with the Power-Strike was exactly as TAMA promises, but for what I do, they were too aggressive and just... too much. Imagine Dave Weckl using these beaters. That's what it was like for me. With Yamaha's hard felt beaters, it's easier for me to control my dynamics without losing attack. Again though, before I got the FP9, I absolutely loved the Power-Strike beaters.
I only tried the 2016 Iron Cobra DP. Now that I have the FP9 dp, I have no interest in trying any other pedals. For me, the FP9s are the best of the best. That includes the Speed Cobra and Dyna-Sync. Speaking of the Dyna-Sync, I especially have no interest in direct drive because I need the feel of a round cam. Direct drive is more like the feel of an offset cam, and I can't play at my best with an offset cam.
The Speed Cobra and the Yamaha FP9 share 2 key similarities though: the longer footboard and what TAMA calls "Recessed Setting". They describe it under "Recessed Setting" here: www.tama.com/usa/products/detail/hp910lwn.html You can see how similar they are in produce photos where they show the pedals from the side, especially on Sweetwater's site. They take great photos of the products they sell.
The Yamaha FP9 has one advantage though: the All-Bearing Universal Joint. Look for it on this page: usa.yamaha.com/products/musical_instruments/drums/ac_drums/hardware/fp9-series/features.html#product-tabs
In my 27 years of playing, I've never had a double pedal where the secondary pedal felt identical to the primary. I had come to believe that no such double pedal existed... until getting the FP9. It feels fantastic, it's beautiful to look at, and it feels great to hold in my hands when I'm setting up or tearing down.
I guess there's another advantage of the FP9: the all-rubber non-slip grip combined with the 4 carpet spurs for grip. I've never had a secondary pedal that remained perfectly stationary on my carpeted drum mat, but now I have that. It's like having two bass drums. I never have to worry about my secondary moving slowly over time throughout each set, or suddenly jumping an inch or something. It stays right where I put it 24/7.
Ah dammit, ok there's on more advantage: the ease of adjusting the spring tension. That is fantastic.
Ok I guess that's enough. Or maybe I can talk about the beauty of the FP9 too. The Speed Cobras look cool too, but you gotta see the FP9 in person.
He sounds like steve-o. Lol
And still no memory lock for the bass drum beater.
Nowhere does it say what the beater head is made of.
I believe it’s felt, my good man 😊
hey lars, its you?
This guy is already way better than Lars.
PHKN PURDY!
The new linkage system is certainly a good thing, but all those adjustments and the longer footboard makes me doubt this. Yamaha was the latest manufacturer to jump on this gimmick trip, why couldtn´t they just get this linkage system up and running on the already perfect 9500dfp?
I fail to see how more adjustments (especially when they're this well thought out) are bad, or why a longer footboard is inherently bad.
@@Vivi2372 Adjustments, ok. Longer/shorter footboard will make the pedal feel very different (not inherently bad) from the dfp9500, which is a bad thing for guys like me. If you haven´t tried the 9500 yet, you shouldn´t - because you´ll love it and become angry because it´s discontinued.
@@frankjaegervandlarssen6657 no I've used the 9500dfp before. Wasn't particularly impressed by it and I am a yamaha fan. The longer footboard is actually one of the appeals for me what with my size 13's.
@@Vivi2372 No wonder it fell short of your expectations. I hope this new one fits better :)
@@frankjaegervandlarssen6657 yeah big feet can make life frustrating. 😂
Lemme guess...$299?
Around 500, bringing back folded flying dragon
On there site it lists for $580....!!! Shit!!!
329.
649 for double
$329. Great pedal. Last one you'll ever need.
I bought this pedal "single" and returned it after a week of playing it because:
1-the weight of the foot board is distributed not in a good way when it comes to playing fast
2-the beater is too light despite the added weights you can add and you only can add one of both weight cuz the second one will fly away after a few minutes of playing
3-when playing fast the foot board starts making some noise as it does not return to its original position fast enough
4-the beater felt started to wear off already after 15 hours of playing which is totally unacceptable
so bottom line I think the pedal is very beautiful in design and also very fluid in motion but it doesn't really get the job done and I don't think it's durable.. this pedal needs improvements so after few generation it will eventually be a good pedal but at the moment I think it's not.
Yup my slave pedal makes a noise when I get up in the 200bpm range!
REPLACE THE BEATERS?..HMMM
@@runnningonempty you obviously didn't read my whole comment
@@77easy77 OH I READ IT...
Ha!. Cobra knock off!
It has a ball bearing that follows the movement of the spring? Man, I should go back in time and tell DW they copied Yamaha.
Tama did it first. Everyone else just copied.
Cymbals are not it so dry change to a custom lol
ALERT!!!!! Not correct information !!!! the hinge at heel block to foot board is not a ball bearing. !! more like a bushing not durable. my first pedal became slop after less than 20 hrs of use YAMAHA sent me two more replacements each with loose hinge point !!! new out of box ? weak point in chain makes whole chain weak this was main pedal direct drive dbbl !!!!
TOO EXPEnSIVE---. !!!! Over 300 bucks-- not worth it...
The 2 things that annoy me about this pedal that will make me never buy it. ( i have played on this pedal and it feels good)
BUT,
You Have to have an Allen wrench to change beater angle I prefer a drum key. Obviously
And it can’t be converted from a double pedal to 2 singles (to my knowledge). But pedals like trick and ACD. All you have to do is move the beater and take off the drive shaft
You gott be kidding. That's cheap for a drum pedal 🤣
There's 1000 videos on UA-cam talking about the product but there's 1000 people not demonstrating the product so this is another waste of a video