@@seanbaker6192 you could be right, but first i thought it would be a dealer review, but i think this page belongs to the Musimesse Frankfurt. And honestly i can´t imagine that Tama or Meinl (german distribution) are to0 arrogant to not give a pedal for the test
@@kkdii yeah i dont know..im just giving benifit of doubt..the guy reviewing is usually fair ..not sure what the deal is..have a good thanksgiving man..
Good video! Surprised to see there was NO Tama pedals here. Their HP-50, HP-300, HP-310, HP900, and HP910 would all be good options to size up against the competition! I personally like the Sonor PBP and Tama HP900 Iron Cobras are my favorites. I'd love to win the Sonor Perfect Balance Standard!
I would like to see the TAMA pedals here as well, in this comparison. Sure there are others, such as AXIS, LUDWIG, PREMIER, ROGERS, DIXON, etc. But the Iron Cobra Series, and especially the Speed Cobras are very good options, and they are fantastic. I own several pedals (different brands), and I prefer The Speed Cobra; it´s lighter yet accurate and precise, and allows a much greater speed of playing. I have played an Iron Cobra (Series HP900), for 20 years and love it. Very powerfull and robust, it allows you a heavy stroke, and conveys a sure feeling of capacity, in live playing. But the Speed Cobra is much faster, and makes you want to play more and more. Nevertheless, this vídeo is very interesting and you try to offer precise evaluation of each pedal. Keep on.
I recently bought a pearl eliminator double pedal and I'm very much enjoying it! So many customization options, solid build, it's a very nice pedal set up. That said, I haven't had a lot of experience with high end models, and I'm very certain this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Eliminator is the best feeling pedal available imo, has the most intuitive feel and the best weight and plenty of adjustment.. I would only consider switching to demon direct drives, axis or maybe the high end yamaha or iron cobra. Definitely have to try before you buy with pedals though
I have the Mapex Falcon double kick pedal and I love it. It has a tonne of features that weren’t mentioned. I would love to have a pearl eliminator direct drive. They look like fun.
I have a Falcon pedal and it’s one of my favorites but I also switched out the bearings with a Canopus speed bearing It made a huge difference I prefer it to my DW 9000 but my Yamaha is also sweet
I switched from DW to Tama Iron Cobra pedals 8 years ago. I will never go back! The DW pedals are super high in quality. But lack the feel and tension that I get from Iron Cobras. All this considering I own a DW Performance series kit.
I have been using the Percussion Kinetics for about a year now,and I am completely happy with this multi adjustable pedal. It is not like any other pedal out there!
I am a fan of the Tama iron cobra 900. I've older versions of Gibraltar pedals, and the Pearl Eliminator, but the iron cobra is pretty nice to me. Plenty of adjustments to fine tune.
That was a good tutorial you guys need to do more like it I like the DW 5000 the one with the longboard I have a vintage one that I’m not about to give up keep up the good work and will see you again soon
Thanks for a great review. It takes me back to where I started: For a decent amount of money you can get all the adjustment that you really need. Many of the expensive choices have always seemed a bit too experimental and nonsense to me. Very interesting.
Since years i play Pearl Eliminator. Its the most versatile pedal because you can change anything from Boardlenght up to the cam. From superheavy feel up to superlight or fast etc...
I have Axis long and shortboard doubles. Coolest thing is they have a triggering option. A strange one for some to get used to. My Yamaha was my go to until finding the Vector G1. Always found my foot wanted to angle to the right on every pedal. The Vector board is offset like the Swivomatic so it's comfortable to play and allows the floor tom to be close to the kick saving my back from twisting.
I recently bought the Yamaha FP-9D direct drive. It’s easily the best pedal I have ever owned (and I’ve owned all the major ones including some vintage favorites).
@@daemon3spade I could not say, as I've never tried a Speed Cobra. I have owned DW, Iron Cobra, Pearl Demon Drive, and Ludwig Speed King so I can only compare the FP-9D to those. I find it superior to all of them. My only small criticism is that the black beater material leaves marks on the head and gets white marks on itself. Purely cosmetic so far.
I've looking at changing pedals and after much thought I believe I'll be going with the FP9 by Yamaha. I have the Pearl Eliminator and over all it is a fine piece. Weird the Tama wasn't explored.
I tried several pedals. Initially then Speed Cobra seemed too light but after adapting to its feel I now find it the smoothest and fastest pedal I have ever played. And excellent value for money. The hard case is also great and the Accu-Strike beater more than just a gimmick.
I have the Demon Chain pedal and oh my days it's so smooth! I always have it as a longboard, just feels more comfortable for me. You should have thrown an Iron Cobra into the mix though, Tama always make high quality stuff
I bought a pre-owned DW3000 pedal a year ago, mint condition. Two months ago changed the bearings, and install the DW Drum Workshop Delta II Bearing Hinge... It feels great also as a DW5000 💥
It's so crazy that mapex was able to give you all of the drive options, as well as interchangeable cams and two different beater surfaces all in one pedal! Plus, it looks so stellar and professional. I really want to try one out now!
I know you posted this a year ago but I've owned two sets of falcons since launch in 2013. Both pedals I've had issues with bass drum mounting onto the hoop, probably the worst experience gigging as it's actually came off a few times. The first pair I had the clamp actually snapped and it wasn't cranked fully tight. The springs also went after 2-3 years. The reason I bought a second pair was because they were in the sale and I thought why not. Although this comment seems very negative towards the falcons, they are so smooth and very customisable and still play on my set today at home
I can confirm that the Falcon pf1000 is a monster and it`s build like a tank. I own one for some years now and they are perfect. Not to mention they are a third of the price of a new DW.
The Pearl eliminator looks bomb what's really cool is all the different variations you can do with it you can change everything you want ! badass ! I've got to get four of them since I've got four base drums! On my 24-piece drum set
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Chain drive and direct drive are both necessary and depend on your playing style. Direct drive is obviously faster, but it's action in -> action out, so there's no room for stray movements or any sloppiness. If you tend to move around a lot and go for things like Moeller whips, you really need chain or strap driven pedals. I suppose to put it in literal terms, chain and strap drive pedals have wiggle room. Direct drive is great for extreme metal, but I wouldn't want to be playing a lot of busy syncopated hip-hop or jazz.
Sonor Jojo Mayer pedal was my choice. I use it since October 2018 and it is the best designed and looking pedal on the market. It is well made, simply and very effective. No unnecessarily parts, no silly mechanical devices. Only pure mechanical essence. Jojo Mayer and guys from Sonor did fantastic job on it! Believe it or not: competition is none...
I played an iron cobra for probably around 5 years then decided to try out the dw5000. I remember thinking the difference was outstanding. The power with the dw was so much better and i didnt have to try as hard to play hard and loud. That was about 8 or 9 years ago and i recently played an iron cobra again and was totally reminded of how much more powerful the dw is. I was finding my kick getting lost easily and had to really stomp on it to be heard over the other instruments. The iron cobra is a grear pedal and lots of people love it but for me, i will never use anything other than dw for a pedal.
I have both Pearl models single pedals (4) and very happy with them. Red line powershifter and Demon chain drives. My Demon drives was a double pedal and I converted them to two single pedals. (Convertible)
Drummer boy sometimes I play a single bass drum with a double pedal and sometimes I play two bass drums with two pedals. I’d like to be able to switch back and forth with one set of double pedals. What is involved in being able to covert back and forth? I wonder if Yamaha top of the line can do same? Thanks
the dw 5000 is definitely my top one, ive wanted one ever since i felt one at guitar center when i started playing. and i’ve had this 2000 single pedal forever and it’s still great
7000's are great, just as good as a 5000 but if you really want to get serious, a 9000 is the bomb. I went from a double 7000 to a single 9000 and I'm completely satisfied.
Wow, I'd love to win one of those yamahas! Either one, and I'd be over the moon with it. My current pedal came with my first kit, and I've had it for 9 yrs. It has served me well, but it just isn't enough any more :(
When I first bought a real drum pedal of choice (98), the Yamaha's had the feel, the action, quality and good price. Since then I stuck with them. They work perfectly for my need. And I still have that one from 98, still working smoothly.
I’m digging the Yamaha FP 9. It’s build quality and adjustments are great. Thought out thoroughly. Excellent. I’m going to buy one. Great review!!!! 🥁👍🏼
I'm a dw guy all the way around, but the eliminator looks so dope and plays so smooth! I'm rocking a 9000 now but had an eliminator before and still have it on my smaller kit.
Yes, despite not including a couple of Name brand pedals (like Tama & the terminator/demon) I thought this was a good series of tests/evaluations and gave lots of information about a reasonable number of pedals and will certainly help people in their considerations. I am appalled at the lack of adjust-ability and lack of basic features (such as protectors on clamps - rubbers and spikes on the base plate) on some of the most expensive pedals & especially disappointed that the Pearl 9000 has so many things on it that appear to be just clever but of no real use. I would advise new drummers buying their first kit (if a pedal is not being thrown in to a package deal) should become familiar with a number of pedals and generally regarded useful features - then go for the cheapest pedal that has most of the features you think/know you need at this stage of your playing. Don't necessarily go to a drum shop (who may push you towards an expensive pedal) try to find some working drummers and seek their advice AND bear in mind that beginners don't need the smoothest/fastest pedal that experienced metal drummers use to do 32nd beats - all they need is a pedal that works well (out of the box) has barest number of adjustments (beginners would not even know what sort of adjustments effect what) and is good value for a beginner. A final suggestion to beginner drummers - buying a $4-6000 drum kit with $2500 worth of Zildjian cymbals and a $600 kick drum pedal is not necessary - it might make your pretty darn ordinary playing sound a little better, but probably not - & possibly even counter effective. It may well be a bit like giving a learner driver a Ferrari to learn in. Go for a kit around $1000 to $1500 that may have cymbals and drum stool and pedals included. Cheap kits can be made to sound better. An $800 kit with no extras plus $450 for cymbals, plus $150 drum throne, plus another $50-80 for bits and pieces should be all you should spend (the $800 drum kit only, will be a better drum, than they sell you for a $1000 for the lot). Maybe spend the extra $50 or so on a better snare drum. Before you buy a new kit from any drum dealer, look at the available 2nd hand drums advertised in papers and on line - you may well get a $4000 kit for $2000 or a $3000 kit for $1500. Go get your first drum kit & drive your parents mad with your practice. Your skill level will be the guide to upgrading your kit - and remember to have fun. Cheers to all drummers Owen Brown
I got rid of my Tama double-pedal because I just wasn't feeling it any more you know? I wanted to simplify and so I got a Gibraltar(I love Gibraltar hardware)G Class 6711single pedal and I freaking love it. It has great feel and it has a old style foot board that looks cool and is very comfortable. The velcro works great for keeping it in place as well. Love your channel.
I used to have the dw 9002 before I switched to axis. Thr axis are a great pedal but I personally think the dw stuff is extremely well built, the only drawback I found was the universal joints on the slave connection wear out a bit faster than expected and could be beefed up a tad. I'm yet to try the eliminator redline series as I've heard nothing but good things about it.
The DW 5000 looks great, I'd love to win it! I've tried it a few times, I love the feel! By the way, I have owned the double version of the Gibraltar 6711 for 6 years, and the screw that holds the left beater kept unscrewing... I wish you had reviewed some Tama pedals, too!
These reviews are spot on! I’ve used many of these pedals but have owned the mapex falcon & the DW 9000s. The falcons and the 9000s both play similarly, but the falcons are a bit lighter and faster. Both are made to break with weak materials though, so not a good investment either way. Also the screws in the 9000 pedal are held in with loc-tite and need to be heated with a hair dryer before taking them out. Would have also liked to see Iron cobras, trick pro v1, and the axis pedal included, but let’s be real, we’ve all seen a review on those!
I just bought the Yamaha FP9C, and it is my favorite piece of gear. I’ve tried many of the pedals reviewed here and had been playing an Iron Cobra for about 10 years (which I also love). Yamaha made it very easy to change the spring tension and access the clamp screw, and the spikes located near the heel of the pedal is an improvement over other pedals that feature spikes closer to the clamp. The action is smooth, as is the large footplate. I highly recommend checking one out.
I opted for the iron cobra but really wanted the Yamaha. Couldn’t justify an extra hundred bucks since I only play a few times a month.Yamaha makes amazing stuff as with all Japanese engineered gear. Kinda jealous 😊
FP9C is the chain version. FP9D is the direct drive version, and I didn't try it because I already know that I don't like the feel of direct drive pedals. I need the feel of the round cam. I have the straps on my FP9C (double pedal) which further improved the pedals for me.
The first pedal I ever bought was a Pearl Powershifter single pedal over 12 years ago. It's still the only pedal I use. It squeaks a bit, but I think I've stuck with it so long that I like the balance it gives me. In fact, I think Jojo Mayer used the strap drive version in the years before the Perfect Balance Pedal came out.
I’ve been a DW 5000 player for 15 years and never gave a thought to the 7 or 9k models. It just does all I want. I am disappointed you didn’t have an Iron Cobra here. It too has survived the test of time and deserves a mention.
WhoDarestheMAN gamer: I had the 9002 series from Pearl and just couldn’t get with that brand again. I’ve played “The Devil’s Pedals” and did love them, but had already gotten the 5k’s.
Ross Gillis If you’re used to DW pedals try a 9000. People like to dog them because they’re DW but the 9000 are awesome pedals. Tama drums for me all day but their pedals don’t hold a candle to the 9000.
Joe Rico: I want to try their new Machine Drive models. They’re available in both chain and direct drive and are said to be the smoothest model yet. My hold is the double pedal is ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! 😳😳 WTF!??
Loved this video. Can you check out the SJC Foundation? Is it different or just another camco clone? The Ludwig Atlas standard is also a good one to test out if it's particularly special in any way. I also wonder if theres any reason to get a Ludwig Atlas Pro model over Pearl P3000/Yamaha FP9...
The most innovative, unusual and practical is the Sonor Perfect Balance Standart. I still can’t understand why manufacturers are making a rack on the right side, like the Pearl Demon Drive !? This is not physiological. Sonor PB is one of the few pedals where everything is done in order to play freely. Thanks a lot to Jojo Mayer and Sonor.
I own a double Pearl Eliminator, but the perfect balance pedal lets me play patterns I couldn't play before. But I have the signature model, not the standard version.. this version does have a nice bag...
I have the Mapex Falcon PF1000 double, and love it, the only problem is the hoop clamp system, easy to broken (like mine), but in general, is a great pedal......
I've owned and played the best and most expensive pedals out there. I always remember the feel of a old Iron SPeed cobra playing FASTER and WAYYY better feel! I loved the pearl demon but with so many adjustments, its so easy to lose that perfect setup.. same. I had the dw 5000 that were slow and clunky. I could not get the pedals even like the iron cobra was. GREAT VIDEOS!
What version of the DW 5000 were you referring to? The Turbo (centered sprocket), or The Accelerator (off center sprocket), or the strap drive (offset cam)? Edit: Here we are, a week later. Still no reply.
Alright I have the TAMA Iron Cobra 200 single chain pedal (idk is it still exist) I've been using that since 2015 and it does the job and I didn't have no complaints about it at all. I had a PDP 400 series pedal I had that that survive 2006 thru 2015. The thing about that pedal is that spring the spring broke up s
i play a dw 9000 double pedal love it best double ive played by far the best single ive seen is the single tama pedal that came with my vintage 1980 tama imperialstars still play those as my main set
I had a Ludwig coil spring Ghost pedal an a Ludwig Speed King pedal but they are not working at this time hope to fix if them if possible what do think about those pedals.
The P2050-C Eliminator would be my choice, i have had verey Eliminator since they started this line, i need to get one of those Red-Line Pedals, too. One of the best balanced pedals you can step on, and i really lobe the design, looks awesome, aaaaaand, the name is so cool haha!
I've owned a lot of pedals over 50 years of drumming. Still prefer my Speed King. The compression springs and somewhat eccentric action (even though it's direct-drive) let me play to my fullest. I'm sure being a diehard Bonham fan enters into the equation, though. The closest I've come to the Speed King feel was a Yamaha direct-drive pedal and the Tama Speed Cobra.
Here's the dope: The Dyno-matic is an extremely versatile bass drum pedal that offers seemingly endless options in performance adjustments. This pedal is designed to suit a diverse variety of player preferences, and also has the unique ability to adapt to a wide range of different size drums. Featuring independently-adjustable components like the Beater Cam, Spring Arm and Pedalboard/Axle positioning, the Dyno-matic gives the player control over several different dynamic combinations at once. The Dyno-matic is engineered throughout for ease of operation - even the way the pedal attaches and releases from the drum is just a simple flip of a lever. DYNO-MATIC PEDAL FEATURES: • Adjustable to fit bass drums from 18" to 30" • Independent chain cam, beater hub and spring arm movement for unlimited adjustment of the beater and pedalboard • Lever action, quick-set/release hoop clamp • Barefoot-friendly, cambered pedalboard • Quick-flip, dual surface beater head • Adjustable toe-strap • Stunning Art-Deco structural design
Trick Dominator or Pro1-V (direct drive) pedals. I have the Dominator single (and I don't play metal). It's the best pedal I've ever played! No un-necessary ghost hits, no squeaking, very solid hits with every touch (more effortless playing). I find myself being more on time with this pedal that others. I would highly recommend it.
I have the Yamaha FP9 double pedal (I have the strap drives on it) and I can tell you that in my 25+ years of playing, it is easily the absolute best pedal I've owned and tried (I've tried many at local stores over the years). It represents my Holy Grail of bass drum pedals. Edit: And Home Of Drums, please ignore everyone ranting about not including TAMA pedals. As someone who had both the 1998 model Iron Cobra and 2016 model Iron Cobra, I can tell you that you made the right decision to leave them out. They just don't compare to the high-end pedals you included here.
So I now have my fp9 Double Pedal and its very smooth and nice, but I have the problem, that on the Slave Pedal the Pedal can move a bit from side to side, because the hinge isnt that tight. Do you think that can be normal due to the production and the quality Control, if they have one, let it go through?
How much movement is there? My primary pedal has about a millimeter or two of side-to-side wobble while my secondary has absolutely none. If it's a huge amount of wobble with your secondary pedal like several millimeters (like you'd find on low-quality pedals), then it might be worth returning as "defective" (that's the word you'd use when requesting a return).
@@TwoCablesOCN oh ok thanks. Mine wobbles also only an millimeter or so, so I guess thats normal after you told me about yours. And yeah my main Pedal also has absolutely no wobble. All in all it shouldnt/doesnt affect my playing either, so its no big deal. Just asked you to know if that's normal😅 Thanks for your help and the quick replies!😉
You're welcome! I admit, I was also quite disappointed that one of my 2 pedals had a little wobble. I decided that if the wobble affected my playing, then I'd unscrew them and swap them but so far I find it to be very easy to forget it has the bit of wobble that it has. Unfortunately, it's my primary pedal so I do notice it sometimes when I have a bit of foot-fidgeting between songs if I'm nervous or excited. lol I forgive it though because of how awesome the FP9 has been for me so far. It always makes me go "wow" when I play.
@@TwoCablesOCN yeah I guess I was a bit luckier, because my main Pedal ist perfectly okay. And you're right that you can kind of forget it, because the Pedal is sooo good. But Sometimes it can be a bit annoying.
I have yet another DW5000 that isn't here. Its heal-less. Kinda rare, weird to get used to, terrific if you can find one and use it. I'd love to see another video just like this one with all the oddball single pedals. The single pedal from Offset, a Trick, an Axis, the crazy sonor one, just all the weird ones. That'd be sweet.
Pearl Demon Drive is what I have been using for the last 3 years and its one of the best pedal. If anyone looking forward to buying a high-end pedal then just go for it!
Currently using the Gibraltar G6 Direct Drive single pedal and it's actually a very good pedal. I've played the G Class on a few gigs and it eventually broke on me. It's much more affordable yet so much better and sturdier.
They are all a great bang for the buck. However, I'm true to Tama in this realm right now. I'm a proud owner and I can't stop getting ad-ons for my 7-year-old Iron Cobras. Yeah, they're expensive; they don't offer hoop protection; their case looks kind of cheap but, they are very reliable. I've tried the DW's but the footboard material doesn't feel as sturdy as the Iron's, imo. Btw, great video; great content. Keep it coming!
All fun and games....loved the Iron Cobra for years till I used this beauty a friend let me use .....HANDS DOWN, nothing out there compares to this masterpiece....smoothest, fastest most adjustable precise pedal I have ever used....did I mention angle of attack?...want a HEAVY hard hitting beater? adjust the beater angle to hoover just above your foot and watch how this explodes!!!!! I have used MOST pedals out there....This is the ONLY pedal I ever used that adjusts from a 18" to a 30"....keepin that beater sweet spot entered...Not cheap at $300, but yeah, kick ass pedal with zero competition around.... bought one and never looked back...The innovation is just superb....the build quality, way out in the stratosphere.....if you have a fast light foot, look no more! you found the epicentre of pedals, guaranteed!
Hi. My pedal is currently the DW 5000 single chain. I am really very happy with him. But after watching your video, I was impressed with the Pearl P-3000 C Demon. The Yamaha fp9C also looks great. Thank you for your work that collaborates with us drummers. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
hmm, comparing bass drum pedals and not checking Tama pedals is like comparing sports cars and forget the Porsche.
forgets ferrari
porsche is more like pearl
Tama may have opted out & not sent a free pedal to review..
@@seanbaker6192 you could be right, but first i thought it would be a dealer review, but i think this page belongs to the Musimesse Frankfurt. And honestly i can´t imagine that Tama or Meinl (german distribution) are to0 arrogant to not give a pedal for the test
@@kkdii yeah i dont know..im just giving benifit of doubt..the guy reviewing is usually fair ..not sure what the deal is..have a good thanksgiving man..
@@nathanfernandes2360 Just check out Czarcie Kopyto is like fu**g Bentley
Good video! Surprised to see there was NO Tama pedals here. Their HP-50, HP-300, HP-310, HP900, and HP910 would all be good options to size up against the competition! I personally like the Sonor PBP and Tama HP900 Iron Cobras are my favorites. I'd love to win the Sonor Perfect Balance Standard!
I would like to see the TAMA pedals here as well, in this comparison. Sure there are others, such as AXIS, LUDWIG, PREMIER, ROGERS, DIXON, etc. But the Iron Cobra Series, and especially the Speed Cobras are very good options, and they are fantastic. I own several pedals (different brands), and I prefer The Speed Cobra; it´s lighter yet accurate and precise, and allows a much greater speed of playing. I have played an Iron Cobra (Series HP900), for 20 years and love it. Very powerfull and robust, it allows you a heavy stroke, and conveys a sure feeling of capacity, in live playing. But the Speed Cobra is much faster, and makes you want to play more and more. Nevertheless, this vídeo is very interesting and you try to offer precise evaluation of each pedal. Keep on.
I know, fourteen pedals and not one Tama, the company that revolutionized modern bass drum pedals.
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yes TAMA is interesting too!
Too bad, that the Iron Cobra was not in Test. Also a very popular pedal !!
@@mannyf.9601 Totally agree. One of my favourits.
I recently bought a pearl eliminator double pedal and I'm very much enjoying it! So many customization options, solid build, it's a very nice pedal set up. That said, I haven't had a lot of experience with high end models, and I'm very certain this is just the tip of the iceberg.
Eliminator is the best feeling pedal available imo, has the most intuitive feel and the best weight and plenty of adjustment.. I would only consider switching to demon direct drives, axis or maybe the high end yamaha or iron cobra. Definitely have to try before you buy with pedals though
I have the Mapex Falcon double kick pedal and I love it. It has a tonne of features that weren’t mentioned. I would love to have a pearl eliminator direct drive. They look like fun.
I like the simplicity of the DW 3000 and the Mapex PF-1000 Falcon with its helpful foot stopper.
Thank you for the review on this lineup of pedals.
I have a Falcon pedal and it’s one of my favorites but I also switched out the bearings with a Canopus speed bearing
It made a huge difference
I prefer it to my DW 9000 but my Yamaha is also sweet
Guess they dont have to test Tama's pedal since they are the best. No use.
Yup. I went through a bunch of pedals and nothing matches the speed cobra.
That's exactly what i was thinking!!
That was my first thought when they showed all the pedals in the opening shot.
I switched from DW to Tama Iron Cobra pedals 8 years ago. I will never go back! The DW pedals are super high in quality. But lack the feel and tension that I get from Iron Cobras. All this considering I own a DW Performance series kit.
Your'e dead right they should have tested the Tama Iron and Speed Cobra pedals
The Yamaha FP9C is a fantastic pedal, very smooth under the foot. Quick action. Adjustable at will.
I have been using the Percussion Kinetics for about a year now,and I am completely happy with this multi adjustable pedal. It is not like any other pedal out there!
Iron cobra? Still a great review. Thanks
Iron cobra is missing, defenitely
I agree. missed the cobras
I still got a tama camco pedal before the iron cobra, and its still going
Cobras are the shit!
@@pablosmaster5593 says who? You?
I own eliminator double pedals and there’s so many ways to tune it how you want but once you find your settings they’re definitely not bad
Nicely put together and concise review. Thank you!
I am a fan of the Tama iron cobra 900. I've older versions of Gibraltar pedals, and the Pearl Eliminator, but the iron cobra is pretty nice to me. Plenty of adjustments to fine tune.
Insane comparison!!! Great work
nicely filmed and edited. And good honest thoughts. Missing the Tama's, though, but that has been pointed out ;D
That was a good tutorial you guys need to do more like it I like the DW 5000 the one with the longboard I have a vintage one that I’m not about to give up keep up the good work and will see you again soon
Detailed video! Informative! Thanks guys!
Finally a video on this! I swore this was a topic that mattered.
I like the sonor perfect balance the most and would love to win it! 😊
Thanks for all your hard work. I'm not getting along perfectly well with my Tama Speedcobra so this helps me look at less aggressive alternatives.
Iron Cobra = sorted 👍
Thanks for a great review. It takes me back to where I started: For a decent amount of money you can get all the adjustment that you really need. Many of the expensive choices have always seemed a bit too experimental and nonsense to me. Very interesting.
Awesome giveaway and thank you for the amazing opportunity!!!
😎❤👍👍🤘🤘🤞🤞
Since years i play Pearl Eliminator. Its the most versatile pedal because you can change anything from Boardlenght up to the cam. From superheavy feel up to superlight or fast etc...
I have Axis long and shortboard doubles. Coolest thing is they have a triggering option. A strange one for some to get used to. My Yamaha was my go to until finding the Vector G1. Always found my foot wanted to angle to the right on every pedal. The Vector board is offset like the Swivomatic so it's comfortable to play and allows the floor tom to be close to the kick saving my back from twisting.
I recently bought the Yamaha FP-9D direct drive. It’s easily the best pedal I have ever owned (and I’ve owned all the major ones including some vintage favorites).
I got the FP9-C and so far it's easily the smoothest pedal I've ever used, even on high tension settings
Is it comparable to Tama910speedcobras?
@@daemon3spade I could not say, as I've never tried a Speed Cobra. I have owned DW, Iron Cobra, Pearl Demon Drive, and Ludwig Speed King so I can only compare the FP-9D to those. I find it superior to all of them. My only small criticism is that the black beater material leaves marks on the head and gets white marks on itself. Purely cosmetic so far.
I've looking at changing pedals and after much thought I believe I'll be going with the FP9 by Yamaha. I have the Pearl Eliminator and over all it is a fine piece. Weird the Tama wasn't explored.
I tried several pedals. Initially then Speed Cobra seemed too light but after adapting to its feel I now find it the smoothest and fastest pedal I have ever played. And excellent value for money. The hard case is also great and the Accu-Strike beater more than just a gimmick.
I have the Demon Chain pedal and oh my days it's so smooth! I always have it as a longboard, just feels more comfortable for me. You should have thrown an Iron Cobra into the mix though, Tama always make high quality stuff
I liked the Sonor Perfect Balance Sandard Pedal but I would love to have the DW 5000 !!
I bought a pre-owned DW3000 pedal a year ago, mint condition. Two months ago changed the bearings, and install the DW Drum Workshop Delta II Bearing Hinge... It feels great also as a DW5000 💥
My favourite is the Mapex Falcon series, ive loved them since their release, just never owned one.
It's so crazy that mapex was able to give you all of the drive options, as well as interchangeable cams and two different beater surfaces all in one pedal! Plus, it looks so stellar and professional. I really want to try one out now!
Tama speed cobra is the best.
I know you posted this a year ago but I've owned two sets of falcons since launch in 2013. Both pedals I've had issues with bass drum mounting onto the hoop, probably the worst experience gigging as it's actually came off a few times. The first pair I had the clamp actually snapped and it wasn't cranked fully tight. The springs also went after 2-3 years. The reason I bought a second pair was because they were in the sale and I thought why not. Although this comment seems very negative towards the falcons, they are so smooth and very customisable and still play on my set today at home
I can confirm that the Falcon pf1000 is a monster and it`s build like a tank. I own one for some years now and they are perfect. Not to mention they are a third of the price of a new DW.
Good video, keep up the good work.
I'd go for the DW 5000, my buddy has one and I've played on it numerous times and I really liked it.
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I prefer the Yamaha FP9C, which is also the one I liked most in the video.
The Yamaha FP9D is what I would love to play!
In this winter I will upgrade my drums with a new pedal, hasitating between the perfect ballance and the dw5000. Thank you for this video!
Those are two very different-feeling pedals. One is light and responsive, the other is heavy.
I own the mapex falcon double pedal. Really love that one. Sadly direct drive is pretty expensive add-on.
The Pearl eliminator looks bomb what's really cool is all the different variations you can do with it you can change everything you want ! badass ! I've got to get four of them since I've got four base drums! On my 24-piece drum set
Great review, mate. Ive got a Pearl Eliminator Redline, they are just amazing
I have the old eliminator powershifter and also the demon chain, and dude the demon chain is insane. I love it.
I love my DW9000 but I also love Tama Iron Cobra. The Iron Cobra is one of the most popular pedals so I’m very surprised they weren’t shown
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Chain drive and direct drive are both necessary and depend on your playing style. Direct drive is obviously faster, but it's action in -> action out, so there's no room for stray movements or any sloppiness. If you tend to move around a lot and go for things like Moeller whips, you really need chain or strap driven pedals. I suppose to put it in literal terms, chain and strap drive pedals have wiggle room. Direct drive is great for extreme metal, but I wouldn't want to be playing a lot of busy syncopated hip-hop or jazz.
WhoDarestheMAN gamer i see you on a lot of videos and you never have anything positive to say
Sonor Jojo Mayer pedal was my choice. I use it since October 2018 and it is the best designed and looking pedal on the market. It is well made, simply and very effective. No unnecessarily parts, no silly mechanical devices. Only pure mechanical essence. Jojo Mayer and guys from Sonor did fantastic job on it! Believe it or not: competition is none...
I played an iron cobra for probably around 5 years then decided to try out the dw5000. I remember thinking the difference was outstanding. The power with the dw was so much better and i didnt have to try as hard to play hard and loud. That was about 8 or 9 years ago and i recently played an iron cobra again and was totally reminded of how much more powerful the dw is. I was finding my kick getting lost easily and had to really stomp on it to be heard over the other instruments. The iron cobra is a grear pedal and lots of people love it but for me, i will never use anything other than dw for a pedal.
I have both Pearl models single pedals (4) and very happy with them. Red line powershifter and Demon chain drives. My Demon drives was a double pedal and I converted them to two single pedals. (Convertible)
Drummer boy sometimes I play a single bass drum with a double pedal and sometimes I play two bass drums with two pedals. I’d like to be able to switch back and forth with one set of double pedals. What is involved in being able to covert back and forth? I wonder if Yamaha top of the line can do same? Thanks
the dw 5000 is definitely my top one, ive wanted one ever since i felt one at guitar center when i started playing. and i’ve had this 2000 single pedal forever and it’s still great
7000's are great, just as good as a 5000 but if you really want to get serious, a 9000 is the bomb. I went from a double 7000 to a single 9000 and I'm completely satisfied.
Really no Tama, trick, or axis? Not that great of a review imo
Walkingdude my thoughts exactly
I wanted to see the big foot, really considering the double pedal of that one.
NO TAMA???????
It must be for the excessive price of the TrickPro, one of the most expensive
Truly a suckass comparison without any Tama pedals!
Wow, I'd love to win one of those yamahas! Either one, and I'd be over the moon with it. My current pedal came with my first kit, and I've had it for 9 yrs. It has served me well, but it just isn't enough any more :(
When I first bought a real drum pedal of choice (98), the Yamaha's had the feel, the action, quality and good price. Since then I stuck with them. They work perfectly for my need. And I still have that one from 98, still working smoothly.
Alba Caroline is also a very sweet pedal
I played one at my teachers studio for 2.5 years and really grew to like it a lot
I've been using my Tama 34-01 bass drum pedal since 1984
I’m digging the Yamaha FP 9. It’s build quality and adjustments are great. Thought out thoroughly. Excellent. I’m going to buy one. Great review!!!! 🥁👍🏼
the best pedal for the money is Pearl Eliminator or Tama Iron Cobra.
You can’t go wrong with iron cobra...especially for the price
So glad the guy at my drum store convinced me to get an iron cobra
thats super true.... for the price of cobra series and... the qualities are soo good.
pearl elimintaor has so similar price with iron cobra
I am happy with my cobra HP900 ROLLING glide:)
I'm a dw guy all the way around, but the eliminator looks so dope and plays so smooth! I'm rocking a 9000 now but had an eliminator before and still have it on my smaller kit.
Yes, despite not including a couple of Name brand pedals (like Tama & the terminator/demon) I thought this was a good series of tests/evaluations and gave lots of information about a reasonable number of pedals and will certainly help people in their considerations. I am appalled at the lack of adjust-ability and lack of basic features (such as protectors on clamps - rubbers and spikes on the base plate) on some of the most expensive pedals & especially disappointed that the Pearl 9000 has so many things on it that appear to be just clever but of no real use. I would advise new drummers buying their first kit (if a pedal is not being thrown in to a package deal) should become familiar with a number of pedals and generally regarded useful features - then go for the cheapest pedal that has most of the features you think/know you need at this stage of your playing. Don't necessarily go to a drum shop (who may push you towards an expensive pedal) try to find some working drummers and seek their advice AND bear in mind that beginners don't need the smoothest/fastest pedal that experienced metal drummers use to do 32nd beats - all they need is a pedal that works well (out of the box) has barest number of adjustments (beginners would not even know what sort of adjustments effect what) and is good value for a beginner. A final suggestion to beginner drummers - buying a $4-6000 drum kit with $2500 worth of Zildjian cymbals and a $600 kick drum pedal is not necessary - it might make your pretty darn ordinary playing sound a little better, but probably not - & possibly even counter effective. It may well be a bit like giving a learner driver a Ferrari to learn in. Go for a kit around $1000 to $1500 that may have cymbals and drum stool and pedals included. Cheap kits can be made to sound better. An $800 kit with no extras plus $450 for cymbals, plus $150 drum throne, plus another $50-80 for bits and pieces should be all you should spend (the $800 drum kit only, will be a better drum, than they sell you for a $1000 for the lot). Maybe spend the extra $50 or so on a better snare drum.
Before you buy a new kit from any drum dealer, look at the available 2nd hand drums advertised in papers and on line - you may well get a $4000 kit for $2000 or a $3000 kit for $1500. Go get your first drum kit & drive your parents mad with your practice. Your skill level will be the guide to upgrading your kit - and remember to have fun.
Cheers to all drummers
Owen Brown
I'd really like that Sonor Perfect balance standard
I’m surprised you didn’t have more subs, very professional and high quality
I got rid of my Tama double-pedal because I just wasn't feeling it any more you know? I wanted to simplify and so I got a Gibraltar(I love Gibraltar hardware)G Class 6711single pedal and I freaking love it. It has great feel and it has a old style foot board that looks cool and is very comfortable. The velcro works great for keeping it in place as well. Love your channel.
I used to have the dw 9002 before I switched to axis. Thr axis are a great pedal but I personally think the dw stuff is extremely well built, the only drawback I found was the universal joints on the slave connection wear out a bit faster than expected and could be beefed up a tad. I'm yet to try the eliminator redline series as I've heard nothing but good things about it.
The DW 5000 looks great, I'd love to win it! I've tried it a few times, I love the feel!
By the way, I have owned the double version of the Gibraltar 6711 for 6 years, and the screw that holds the left beater kept unscrewing...
I wish you had reviewed some Tama pedals, too!
These reviews are spot on! I’ve used many of these pedals but have owned the mapex falcon & the DW 9000s. The falcons and the 9000s both play similarly, but the falcons are a bit lighter and faster. Both are made to break with weak materials though, so not a good investment either way.
Also the screws in the 9000 pedal are held in with loc-tite and need to be heated with a hair dryer before taking them out.
Would have also liked to see Iron cobras, trick pro v1, and the axis pedal included, but let’s be real, we’ve all seen a review on those!
Tom Mandery Which parts are made of inferior materials? Everything looks to be very sturdy in my 9000 pedals.
Joe Rico the cam and screws.
I would buy pearl demon as I tried it in the music shop and I was just blown away how smooth this pedal is.
My favorite pedal is a no-name Amazon pedal I bought for $32 about 6 years ago, lol. It's built really well, has a full bottom plate and feels great.
I use the DW 9000 and it is great for drummers who use the heal toe technique. And it's very durable. Had it 5 years.
I just bought the Yamaha FP9C, and it is my favorite piece of gear. I’ve tried many of the pedals reviewed here and had been playing an Iron Cobra for about 10 years (which I also love). Yamaha made it very easy to change the spring tension and access the clamp screw, and the spikes located near the heel of the pedal is an improvement over other pedals that feature spikes closer to the clamp. The action is smooth, as is the large footplate. I highly recommend checking one out.
same. i went from a 5000 to 9000 to FP9. i love it
I opted for the iron cobra but really wanted the Yamaha. Couldn’t justify an extra hundred bucks since I only play a few times a month.Yamaha makes amazing stuff as with all Japanese engineered gear. Kinda jealous 😊
My favorite is the Pearl P-2050c Eliminator!
The extra bearings on the DW9000 are there to reduce drag/friction. Yes it does impact on the pedal, positively.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer Yeah. Designed well but way too heavy feeling. The balances are all off. Smooth tho.
Yamaha FP9C- lots of features like smooth board but not to heavy
The Yamaha FP9 looks amazing. Would love to use that.
As an FP9C owner, I can tell you that it's as good as it looks, if not better.
@@TwoCablesOCN is that the chain version? Did you try the direct drive?
FP9C is the chain version. FP9D is the direct drive version, and I didn't try it because I already know that I don't like the feel of direct drive pedals. I need the feel of the round cam.
I have the straps on my FP9C (double pedal) which further improved the pedals for me.
Excellent video thank you :)
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The first pedal I ever bought was a Pearl Powershifter single pedal over 12 years ago. It's still the only pedal I use.
It squeaks a bit, but I think I've stuck with it so long that I like the balance it gives me. In fact, I think Jojo Mayer used the strap drive version in the years before the Perfect Balance Pedal came out.
That's the same as me bro, I bought a tama speed cobra but my old powershifter just felt way better
OIL!!!
I’ve been a DW 5000 player for 15 years and never gave a thought to the 7 or 9k models. It just does all I want. I am disappointed you didn’t have an Iron Cobra here. It too has survived the test of time and deserves a mention.
WhoDarestheMAN gamer: I had the 9002 series from Pearl and just couldn’t get with that brand again. I’ve played “The Devil’s Pedals” and did love them, but had already gotten the 5k’s.
@WhoDarestheMAN gamer You're 19, aren't you?
Ross Gillis If you’re used to DW pedals try a 9000. People like to dog them because they’re DW but the 9000 are awesome pedals. Tama drums for me all day but their pedals don’t hold a candle to the 9000.
Joe Rico: I want to try their new Machine Drive models. They’re available in both chain and direct drive and are said to be the smoothest model yet.
My hold is the double pedal is ONE THOUSAND DOLLARS!!! 😳😳
WTF!??
@@Assimilator702 Ppl like to dog DW? I hear nothing but good things about them.
Loved this video. Can you check out the SJC Foundation? Is it different or just another camco clone? The Ludwig Atlas standard is also a good one to test out if it's particularly special in any way. I also wonder if theres any reason to get a Ludwig Atlas Pro model over Pearl P3000/Yamaha FP9...
The most innovative, unusual and practical is the Sonor Perfect Balance Standart. I still can’t understand why manufacturers are making a rack on the right side, like the Pearl Demon Drive !? This is not physiological. Sonor PB is one of the few pedals where everything is done in order to play freely. Thanks a lot to Jojo Mayer and Sonor.
The Demon Drives are modular. You can rearrange it however you want, it's all symmetrical just need a screwdriver and some Allen keys.
Pearl Eliminator Redline. Best Peadal in my opinion. Smooth and very well crafted
They don't beat the demon drives in smoothness though...but they do in price!
Thanks,very informative. Still like my old Slingerland Yellow Jacket.1975 Double cam,double spring,Metal strap drive!!!! 👍
I own a double Pearl Eliminator, but the perfect balance pedal lets me play patterns I couldn't play before.
But I have the signature model, not the standard version.. this version does have a nice bag...
I have the Mapex Falcon PF1000 double, and love it, the only problem is the hoop clamp system, easy to broken (like mine), but in general, is a great pedal......
Had an old school Ludwig Speed King. Never a hitch but the Pearl Eliminator looks good.
DW 9000 double pedal is what I use. No problems ever but it didn’t come with any instructions at the time about 15 years ago.
I've owned and played the best and most expensive pedals out there. I always remember the feel of a old Iron SPeed cobra playing FASTER and WAYYY better feel!
I loved the pearl demon but with so many adjustments, its so easy to lose that perfect setup.. same. I had the dw 5000 that were slow and clunky. I could not get the pedals even like the iron cobra was.
GREAT VIDEOS!
What version of the DW 5000 were you referring to? The Turbo (centered sprocket), or The Accelerator (off center sprocket), or the strap drive (offset cam)?
Edit: Here we are, a week later. Still no reply.
Alright I have the TAMA Iron Cobra 200 single chain pedal (idk is it still exist) I've been using that since 2015 and it does the job and I didn't have no complaints about it at all. I had a PDP 400 series pedal I had that that survive 2006 thru 2015.
The thing about that pedal is that spring the spring broke up s
i play a dw 9000 double pedal love it best double ive played by far the best single ive seen is the single tama pedal that came with my vintage 1980 tama imperialstars still play those as my main set
I had a Ludwig coil spring Ghost pedal an a Ludwig Speed King pedal but they are not working at this time hope to fix if them if possible what do think about those pedals.
The P2050-C Eliminator would be my choice, i have had verey Eliminator since they started this line, i need to get one of those Red-Line Pedals, too. One of the best balanced pedals you can step on, and i really lobe the design, looks awesome, aaaaaand, the name is so cool haha!
I've owned a lot of pedals over 50 years of drumming. Still prefer my Speed King. The compression springs and somewhat eccentric action (even though it's direct-drive) let me play to my fullest. I'm sure being a diehard Bonham fan enters into the equation, though.
The closest I've come to the Speed King feel was a Yamaha direct-drive pedal and the Tama Speed Cobra.
Here's the dope: The Dyno-matic is an extremely versatile bass drum pedal that offers seemingly endless options in performance adjustments. This pedal is designed to suit a diverse variety of player preferences, and also has the unique ability to adapt to a wide range of different size drums. Featuring independently-adjustable components like the Beater Cam, Spring Arm and Pedalboard/Axle positioning, the Dyno-matic gives the player control over several different dynamic combinations at once. The Dyno-matic is engineered throughout for ease of operation - even the way the pedal attaches and releases from the drum is just a simple flip of a lever.
DYNO-MATIC PEDAL FEATURES:
• Adjustable to fit bass drums from 18" to 30"
• Independent chain cam, beater hub and spring arm movement for unlimited adjustment of the beater and pedalboard
• Lever action, quick-set/release hoop clamp
• Barefoot-friendly, cambered pedalboard
• Quick-flip, dual surface beater head
• Adjustable toe-strap
• Stunning Art-Deco structural design
Trick Dominator or Pro1-V (direct drive) pedals. I have the Dominator single (and I don't play metal). It's the best pedal I've ever played! No un-necessary ghost hits, no squeaking, very solid hits with every touch (more effortless playing). I find myself being more on time with this pedal that others. I would highly recommend it.
I have the Yamaha FP9 double pedal (I have the strap drives on it) and I can tell you that in my 25+ years of playing, it is easily the absolute best pedal I've owned and tried (I've tried many at local stores over the years). It represents my Holy Grail of bass drum pedals.
Edit: And Home Of Drums, please ignore everyone ranting about not including TAMA pedals. As someone who had both the 1998 model Iron Cobra and 2016 model Iron Cobra, I can tell you that you made the right decision to leave them out. They just don't compare to the high-end pedals you included here.
So I now have my fp9 Double Pedal and its very smooth and nice, but I have the problem, that on the Slave Pedal the Pedal can move a bit from side to side, because the hinge isnt that tight. Do you think that can be normal due to the production and the quality Control, if they have one, let it go through?
How much movement is there? My primary pedal has about a millimeter or two of side-to-side wobble while my secondary has absolutely none. If it's a huge amount of wobble with your secondary pedal like several millimeters (like you'd find on low-quality pedals), then it might be worth returning as "defective" (that's the word you'd use when requesting a return).
@@TwoCablesOCN oh ok thanks. Mine wobbles also only an millimeter or so, so I guess thats normal after you told me about yours. And yeah my main Pedal also has absolutely no wobble. All in all it shouldnt/doesnt affect my playing either, so its no big deal. Just asked you to know if that's normal😅
Thanks for your help and the quick replies!😉
You're welcome!
I admit, I was also quite disappointed that one of my 2 pedals had a little wobble. I decided that if the wobble affected my playing, then I'd unscrew them and swap them but so far I find it to be very easy to forget it has the bit of wobble that it has. Unfortunately, it's my primary pedal so I do notice it sometimes when I have a bit of foot-fidgeting between songs if I'm nervous or excited. lol
I forgive it though because of how awesome the FP9 has been for me so far. It always makes me go "wow" when I play.
@@TwoCablesOCN yeah I guess I was a bit luckier, because my main Pedal ist perfectly okay. And you're right that you can kind of forget it, because the Pedal is sooo good. But Sometimes it can be a bit annoying.
I have yet another DW5000 that isn't here. Its heal-less. Kinda rare, weird to get used to, terrific if you can find one and use it. I'd love to see another video just like this one with all the oddball single pedals. The single pedal from Offset, a Trick, an Axis, the crazy sonor one, just all the weird ones. That'd be sweet.
I Just Love the video, nowadays Im using double DW9002 but I had a Sonor Jojo Mayer signature pedal, it`s an absurd of pedal and I Just Loved it!
Does anyone know where I can find replacementes for the rubber parts of the hoop clamp for the Sonor Perfect Balance pedal?
I've had my dw 5000 for 15 years now. Best pedal ever. I will never switch. Not even for a dw 9000.
I like the cheep one because I am broke 😁🤘🏼
Favorite pedal is the Pearl P-3000C Demon. It's great. Love it. Giveaways.
What about the Tama dyna sync pedal I love this pedal
Pearl Demon Drive is what I have been using for the last 3 years and its one of the best pedal. If anyone looking forward to buying a high-end pedal then just go for it!
Rajdeep Borgohain just purchased two days ago! Single direct drive , can’t wait for it to come in
Currently using the Gibraltar G6 Direct Drive single pedal and it's actually a very good pedal. I've played the G Class on a few gigs and it eventually broke on me.
It's much more affordable yet so much better and sturdier.
They are all a great bang for the buck. However, I'm true to Tama in this realm right now. I'm a proud owner and I can't stop getting ad-ons for my 7-year-old Iron Cobras. Yeah, they're expensive; they don't offer hoop protection; their case looks kind of cheap but, they are very reliable. I've tried the DW's but the footboard material doesn't feel as sturdy as the Iron's, imo.
Btw, great video; great content. Keep it coming!
Proud owner of the iron cobra 2000 double it really stepped my game up
All fun and games....loved the Iron Cobra for years till I used this beauty a friend let me use .....HANDS DOWN, nothing out there compares to this masterpiece....smoothest, fastest most adjustable precise pedal I have ever used....did I mention angle of attack?...want a HEAVY hard hitting beater? adjust the beater angle to hoover just above your foot and watch how this explodes!!!!! I have used MOST pedals out there....This is the ONLY pedal I ever used that adjusts from a 18" to a 30"....keepin that beater sweet spot entered...Not cheap at $300, but yeah, kick ass pedal with zero competition around.... bought one and never looked back...The innovation is just superb....the build quality, way out in the stratosphere.....if you have a fast light foot, look no more! you found the epicentre of pedals, guaranteed!
I play the DW 5000. it's good smooth fast enough for me. the only problem I had with it was a broke spring always carry a spare.
Hi. My pedal is currently the DW 5000 single chain. I am really very happy with him. But after watching your video, I was impressed with the Pearl P-3000 C Demon. The Yamaha fp9C also looks great. Thank you for your work that collaborates with us drummers. Greetings from Buenos Aires.
I went through a bunch until I landed on the dw 5000 and I love it