Electronic Drum News! Alesis Strike Pro SE | Roland TD50 Nocturne | Simmons SD200
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- Опубліковано 25 лис 2019
- In this episode of eDrum news: I'm covering the two new flagships electronic drumsets from Roland and Alesis (Strike Pro Special Edition and the TD50 Nocturne), a new $200 mesh drumset from Simmons, and some overall price drops on the TD25KV and regular Alesis Strike Pro.
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FYI: forgot to mention the rubber on Strike Pro SE cymbals is different now
And the mounts for the cymbals 😁
What I’d love to see is a company make a simple wrap change. I’m not a huge fan of the color, and would have to change it. Seems like a huge pain in the ass though. Lol.
Why is the rubber better, is it as good as Roland now?
@@fuchsia5899 The rubber is better because it the same one they use for the pecker. Goodyear quality.
Matthew Fant You can change the wrap folds on the V-Drums since the TD-20.regular tom pads are equiped with a “lose one screw” wrap replacement systen.
An E drum company should employ him
or start his own one, I would buy it.
Na he could be more biased that way, I prefer independence ;)
Atv should hire him
I think any company would benefit from his input. He is smart guy and I really appreciate his channel and the 65 drum Fan page.
You are the only channel I give a like to BEFORE I watch the video because I already know it will be quality
Thanks so much dude! :D
Great reviews. I was looking at the Alesis last year and now I like it even better with the improvements they’ve made.
Dude, I couldn't even begin to imagine someone looking at a $9K drum set and they go "I will buy this!!!"
I have a Pearl Masterworks, yeah im not a huge Etard but will use them in a tour bus, hotel room, and outside.
You’ve never played a Tama Star Bubinga then!
@@Spankedchicken No I have not but that's still so much money
@@Spankedchicken meh there alright drums. Really good for deathmetal but that's about it
@Le Spam At least with custom drum kits, you can take your time buying pieces at a time.
You would have to spend 9k all at once for the new Roland
Man, love the reasons and examples posted regarding Roland!
I have to admit that the Strike Pro SE looks good and I personally don't have a problem with the brass lugs. As an acoustic drummer for 50 years, I always preferred acoustic and eventually, I triggered some of the heads. However, 3 years ago, I decided to get another kit that I could use to simply keep my joints loose, (I sold my acoustic kit 8 or 10 years earlier).
I bought the Alesis Surge Mesh in part, because I hadn't even tried to play an eKit since 1989 (and that was in a music instrument sales store). I certainly agree, if you're serious about drumming and eKits, spend at least $800. The Surge Mesh cost about $500 in 2019.
That said, I was impressed with the feel of the mesh heads, and I thought the feel of the cymbals made a great leap from what I remembered in '89. The Surge Mesh voice control had a great snare sound but it was very limited on a number of other levels. 'Back in the Day', I had a large kit and less than a month after I bought the Surge Mesh, I started adding cymbals and an second kick drum. I also came upon a Pearl Redbox RBM-20 for a great price, (plus I sent it to a certified Pearl repair company for a complete rebuild and fix).
With that addition, I was able to add more mesh-head drums. So now, I have 7 drums, (all mesh heads), 4 cymbals, and a hat, (if you want to call it that). Every cable input in the RBM-20 is filled and when I send it all to my Roland 80Watt amp and Klipsch 120W subwoofer the kit gets across. Still, it certainly isn't something I would put on a stage if I was still doing that kind of thing.
That brings me back to the Alesis Strike Pro SE. That kit looks like something I would certainly do live gigs with, (well, except for the color). But these full-bodied eKits look heavier than an acoustic set and the acoustic set could always be triggered. The Drum Voice module is really what gives the eKit the sound so it's not like you couldn't send the triggered acoustic kit to any module you like.
I replaced the Alesis snare with a 12" Roland V-drum and the Hi-Hat and Ride cymbals are also Roland pads, (tri-triggered). The rims on the Alesis are all programmable so I have 200 kits, (most are custom built from the ground up), and each kit has various drum sounds added through the rims.
This is also possible to do on an acoustical kit by adding special rim-triggers. All in all, a large acoustical kit, modified with drum head and rim triggers and with any voice module you want, wouldn't cost as much as that $9K Roland eKit.
Not only that but, I think the acoustic kit would still be significantly lighter... I don't know... If it was me and I was 30 or 40 years younger, I'd have a hard time being convinced that I should switch to an eKit. But then, that's me.
FWIW
PS, Thanks for the great reviews! Very helpful!
I bought a used TD-9K for $260 and love it! It's really hard for me to imagine a kit being 45x better!
Douglas Lippi I have the 9 too.
Love it.
This kit is better.
Better sounds and bigger drums.
You got a good deal. The module sells for that.
Try the Roland TD50K. Unbelievable sound and feel.
buy superiour drummer through midi and thank me later
@@KirkyDrums lol that isn't my use case. Not trying to mimic acoustic drum kits. But hey I'll thank you anyway. I use it mostly for timpani and percussion.
I've seen the video on the alesis yt channel and instantly got here to see if there's the new video
Great breakdown. Thanks, Justin.
Excellent review, fast, to the point and very accurate in factual terms. Thank you!
Thanks!
As always a great review/vlog of new e-gear Justin. I completely agree with your opinion about Roland and their price point which is partly why I stick with my tried and true TD-20x. I came very close to pulling the trigger on the 50 but realized after having to add the additional drums/cymbals that I like I would have to sell my house! Also I love the changes Alesis did here. They do get it!
Thanks for the video... I have been putting off getting an e drum kit because of money but the new alesis strike pro se is my kit. Ty for your videos and for being honest about pros and cons because it made my choice easy
And to be COMPLETELY HONEST....
I 100% agree with you.
Great show Justin. Interesting to see the new Alesis SE. I will reccommend anyone that think serious about a $9000 Roland to check out options from Drum-Tec. I will continue my support.
As always, Great Review Justin! 😉
I've been playing the Roland 50K set for about 2 years now, and love it. The mesh heads feel great.
I couldn’t agree more, two years of playing the 50, it’s a dream kit ,,,,
Hey man, I’ve been watching quite a few of your videos recently, and I’ve wondered if you play drums at like a church or something? I personally play drums at my church here in Australia and it’s great to see other people on UA-cam that play instruments in a church.
I'm not a drummer but I'm fascinated with the E drums and how much they actually sound like actual drums
Justin really good review!! Hope you have a great Thanksgiving!!
Yo those explainations are so perfect
Thanks dude!
I'm really liking the new Alesis kit
Great video as always justin, just a note there is also a firmware 1.5 available for all strike users.
I love the look of the nocturne kit. I won’t ever own one but it’s nice to look at.
Dude !!! I just bought alesis strike pro kit...geezz...gotta buy another..
That strike pro special edition looks pretty good .
Nice one, Jason!
Thank you for getting straight to it!!!
Thanks for noticing :D
@@65Drums Right on bro
Just FYI ... there is no longer "lag time" when changing kits with the Mimic. That is one of the features of the new OS update. The final update wasn't out when you had the Mimic to review. Actually we beta tested even after the 1.0.9 update first came out and it was actually perfected in 1.0.9.2 which is what is on the site now.
Wow!
Just so much info in this one, that was I unaware of! Great vid as always Justin!
But um, where's the goatee bro!? hahaha just teasing! (I liked seeing that video but for some odd reason unbeknownst to me, seeing "Shaved Justin" seems like "home"... hehehe! Bless up!
Fantastic!
Thx for the news justin
Thanks for watching :)
Have a great thanksgiving justin
Demoed this kit at Guitar Center I liked the feel and the construction of the Tom's also the function of the module so I bought Toms and the module separate at a discount... I've been using them in conjunction with a Roland KD 200 kick drum that is very positive and acoustic feeling no double dribble works nicely also use the Roland VH11 hats with much luck.. Most of my symbols are roland but I have some lemon symbols that are fantastic for the price never a mistigger..
That Strike SE looks better IMO. I don’t mind the mix and match color scheme. Gives it more character than the old Strike.
I’m going to checkout the sizes of the new SE. thanks for showing that. I want to use SD3 exclusively. Is that module going to work well with Toontrack . Thanks Justin
hey man, huge fan, love the videos. as a drummer myself it comes in handy to have someone to explain the pro's and con's of sets and all the other things. but I am saving up for a roland td17kvx. I have looked into also just saving up for a alesis strike pro since it's not a crazy amount much more and it comes with a lot more. but I've heard bad things about it. I wanna get the best I can for the money i have. what would you recommend I do?
I just saw the Sweetwater review for the alesis se strike pro and was just wondering when you would make a video on it lmao
I've been working on the video since this morning lol. They take awhile to edit and film
Same
One of the differences that I really like is on the new SE, you can mount the cymbals wherever you wish. The old model, you had to post them on the rack at the corners going down into the vertical posts, not the SE. It has a clamp where you can put them anywhere. It allows for a much more personalized feeling to the kit.
Are you gonna make a more in depth video on the alesis strike pro se? Im considering getting td 17kvx but i dont like the toms and how small it is. If the SE is a good upgrade without the previous issues and better quality material i might consider getting it
I'm no expert, but I love my td-17kvx.
The Alesis special edition should’ve had a matt red finish with the black hardware
honestly, I'd replace the lugs with chrome right off the bat.
Innit!
@Le Spam not the lugs the brass tension rods..... They look ridiculous
I converted a Yamaha Stage Birch acoustic kit using the module, symbols and rack from my TD25-kv. I used UFO triggers, mesh heads and rubber rims. It looks killer, plays beautifully, and I did it all for under $1k. One would have to be out of their mind to pay $9k for that Roland rig.
what if they actually named it the alesis strikes back like you said in a previous video
Hey Justin, thank you very much for the video. Can you recommend me some reverb units for electronic drums??
What about the 3 zone ride cymbal? Any improvements on the internal cable ports/connecting problem? I actually just received my 3rd overall (2nd warranty replacement) and after a 45 minute test...everything is wonderful. This has started great before though, and then it went downhill from there.. but it took like 2.5 months to actually recieve it, so I was hoping/thinking maybe the new version has the improved ride...and i got one?! Kinda sucks that I was essentially forced to get a vh-11, due to terrible hh issues...and now 8 months later, they come out with an improvement on the hh. Oh well...like the acoustic kickdrum but that was my first upgrade within a week of purchase...makes a massive difference in my opinion, both on playability and looks. Thanks
I had a Yamaha DTXpress back in the day and I thought part of what made e-drums awesome was portability. Now you have big drum shells, cables and a power connection to deal with. I get you want something that looks acoustic for the stage presence, but this seems kind of ridiculous for that price of that Roland you can get one hell of an acoustic kit.
Are the 8 new extra kits available to all owners of the strike or just the se? Thank you for the video!
Hey Justin . i know this is completely off topic but can you please guide me whether the Active noise cancelling headphones (Sony wh100xm3) work better with the electronic drums. i have a Roland Td17 kvx. Thank you.
Actually, when the Roland TD 30KV first came out in 2012 with the 4 toms, I bought it the first day it was released at GC. It was $9,995.00 and kept it for 6 months and sold it. Yes, it was nice but I was just using it for practice and while it was the best kit to this day, in my opinion, it sure wasn't worth $10k. It was the nicest looking and best sounding module on the market at that time.
I think the td25 successor is going to be announced at the 2020 namm ,its long overdue and all the price drops of the td25 indicate they want to clear out the td25 stock for the successor.
I love the Matt halpern sticks. Do you think it is safe to use them on the Alesis Strike Pro SE?
Hi Justin, the ATV standard with sound module or the new Alesis Strike Pro SE?
Would I be right in thinking that it’s cheaper just to make your own? (Minus the module I mean)
Normal drum shells, mesh heads, triggers etc.
I love the rm edition
Enjoy your video thanks
great video
So because of this new set I was more motivated to get the crossgrade to SD3. My rep at Sweetwater emailed me yesterday and said no discount this year. So I got it anyway. I want it. I’m dowmloading the basic library now . 40 go..you know. My computer said 16 hrs! That’s 4 am tomorrow! LOL. Anyway, everybody is waiting for your review on the Alesis SE.
Cheers Justin ;)
Could you do a video about the strike pro se vs the Roland vad306? Or could you recommend which one you would choose for church?
I think Roland is doing a great development on all there products. Yes, they are expansive but they are doing everything to be the best! and it’s the same with the syntheziser Line. They come up with amazing New stuff like the Fantom or the New Jupiter. They put à LOT of effort on better products. TD 50 is still the best you can get. For me it’s worth every cent. 🥁💥🎶
I’ve wanted drums my whole life and now at 38 I’ve decided I’m getting drums so I can stop beating up my tables and everything else that I’ve drummed on for years and years. I really like the look of the Strike Pro and the extra toms and cymbals. I’m thinking of either getting the strike pro or a VAD306, drummers out there which should I get and why?
hopefully drum-tec sells the kick drum individually. you can get all the alesis sized pads as individuals as well as the individual strike cymbals through them ... fingers crossed you can get the kick drum too.
If the mesh heads on the Alesis Strike SE were 3-ply, I can obviously see competition between them, Roland's 3-ply head on their digital snare, and drum-tec's mesh heads.
감사합니다 😄
Well said.
Although I am still mostly interested in acoustic drums now, I am looking forward to Winter NAMM 2020 and hoping, hoping, hoping that Yamaha is going to introduce new e-kits like the DTX series. If they don't...I think a lot of people are going to give up on Yamaha e-drums and that would truly suck because I just am not a fan of Roland module sounds.
I still worry about the hi hat. Looks like its the same exact controller with the spring and pressure plate. The only major difference is the elimination of the lower cymbal and its electronic bits. Which leaves me with the question why they didn't just make the lower cymbal a dummy cymbal like atv did you would retain the feel yet lose any negatives the electronics were providing?
As the drummer here that's also a car guy, as Ford goes, unless we're talking about a hatch get, most car enthusiasts would go buy a Ford Mustang GT, after seeing the Mustang GT500. Although, the GT500 is mass produced, and is more worth the money charged.
Btw, great video!
I really want this kit haha, i might have to re arrange my room for the 8792997th time already in 2020 but ima save up and buy it. Do they sell separate wraps for the kits? Like if i wanted black instead of red would i have to paint the myself or do they have the option to buy it that way or get separate wraps for it?
so in Nov 2020 do you know of any issues with the Alesis Strike Pro SE ? and also now that its a year later. is there a better kit in any brand available ? what is the best kit if you could just get whatever you wanted ?
if i want to have a kit just to play guitar hero and games like that is my best option for keeping the neighbours happy an alesis nitro mesh?
what would you recommend me buying the Alesis Strike Pro SE or VAD506 kit Roland ?
hello i have a simple question,
I have an alesis command and ive hooked it up to ezdrummer 2. Is there a way to load my sounds as wav files from ez drummer so i can plug my headphones into my module and play from there or do i just plug in my headphones into my pc and use that as my audio ?
I'd REALLY appreciate it if you guys could answer this question. I had a major problem with the Alesis Strike Pro triggering every stick stroke across the "edge" and "bow" of the Hi-Hats. For example if I played the really fast accents between the bow and edge of the hat mixed in with unaccented strokes I found that the accents almost cancelled out some of the strokes afterwards. Also a lot of times I found the Hi-Hat would miss strokes as well when I played double stroke rolls on it. I wanted to know if you guys had any problems with the new Hi-Hat triggering correctly. If you could get back to me I'd really appreciate it.
Hey man! Any news about the GEWA DW eDrum????
I really hope that they sell the hihat thing only.
Because i have the Alesis Strike Pro for a year now and i play acoustic in a little band.
The acoustic hihat feels (duh) much more realistic. And i feel like i need that for my home practice too
I currently have a alesis dm6 usb kit and it is finally time to get a new kit what would you suggest? I would be recording a few things and practicing a bunch .
Haven't drummed in almost 18 years always played acoustic sets. Been looking at the alesis command x set for the price I'd really like to get the strike pro se but way to much money right now.how does the command x rate?
I wonder if the triggers are different on the SE. I didn’t really have hi hat problems with my set, but I could never replicate real hi hat dynamics. After almost 2 years of playing, one of the trigger columns in my snare collapsed. The plastic plate their mounted to actually cracked in 2 places. It would be cool if they offered upgrade kits to match the SP. I’m sure they’ll sell individual pieces soon enough.
So I had bought the Alesis Strike Pro and suddenly this new one comes out... is there a way for me to buy individual parts (Ex: Kick pad, toms, and snare) from the Alesis Strike Pro SE and just swap them out of my kit?
Taking away features and selling them to you later for more, it just works. I really like Roland stuff but yeah little competition will turn anyone greedy/slow to innovative.
Is Roland got a successor to the TD50 (TD30 w/upgrades) lined up? Or at least a Digital HH? That free USB port must have been put on there for something, right?
So I am assuming that Alesis will now send everyone who purchased the original half baked kit the new SE kit for no charge.
“You must be here for the edrum news”
HOW DID HE KNOW!?!?!
😉
So much fun stuff coming out, and I'm already invested in what I've got... :(
Anyway. Justin. I asked several questions on your Nfused Nspire video last week. I have to quiet my acoustic set down even more. I have Remo Silent Strokes on now, but have a concern. Have you ever heard of mesh heads wearing down the bearing edge of an acoustic wood shell? And (if you want to read that comment) would my possible solution be viable. Thanks.
Rick yes your bearing edges will be compromised if you don’t protect them
Use a piece of rubber or Remo Muffl on there before putting the mesh head on. 👍
@@mrtc29 Thanks Matt.
I really like my Strike Pro (original). The only annoyance is the hi hat, even with the latest firmware, the response is not very realistic. I am considering the goedrum replacement, but sort of like the bottom cymbal to replicate an acoustic kit. I must say, the from what I see about the SE, it seems like the perfect kit. Wish I could upgrade, but it would make more sense to replace components as needed. Also, the full size kick would be tight in the space I have (but I would make it work, it is sweet).
Agreed on your assessment of Roland. Not having a Digital Hi-Hat at this point in time is ridiculous. Why have a third USB connector on the TD-50 if it was never meant to be used?
You can charge your phone with it :-)
did they fix the snapping off triggers
Those are dope
You said everything below $800 will become boring or break on you.
So just wondering.
Does that include DTX522K for $725?
How about a video about Yamaha being dead in edrums
This video highlights what's wrong in so many industries. Every single piece of equipment is a 'new' product with a new model number or letter or what not. After a few years the numbers don't mean anything. Is the 35 from last year better than the 42½ from this year? Let's add all these letters, it'll make things easier! K, KV, KV-X, XXX, RM, SE, Plus, Turbo...
Are they actually brass or just electroplated? Brass would be more expensive to produce.
I got the first pro strike and really dont care for the small bass drum. I use it live at shows and my biggest problem is it tends too shake and move again like you said its not solid. And some of the hardware was a bit janky too. Other than that i like the black mesh heads and the over all kit
Can you just buy the new high hat and kick drum to upgrade your strike pro v1
before i decide to buy a Roland drum at this price range 9000$ will go with acoustic instead for this price. For me is Alesis all the way and I have the STRIKE PRO SE and I'm very happy with this
Hey sir! Where can I get a 20" electric bass drum? Thanks
I bought a Drum-Tec Real Feel 14” mesh head and rim protector for my acoustic snare. I just want to test it out. If I love it I’ll put a set of them on the Alesis SE when I get it. There’s no positional sensing in the module so.....I’m thinking I’m going to have to by the td30 for the mapping of the snare and Hihat . No Strike pads have P.S. so again it looks like I’ll buy the Drum-Tec 13” chrome hand hammered snare ( Diablo) then I can make my toms 10 12 14 and 14. The 8” I don’t know. I’d like the 18” ATV ride and maybe the 17” ATV China. The td30 has enough inputs. If I get more I have a TM-2 at the house I could use . In the end...it’s all good
Chrome and black all makes sense and looks good. Not sure why the gold was put on the drums but they are not all that noticable. Nevertheless, chrome or black would have made more sense.
I would like your opinion please: which do you like better, Alesis Strike Pro S.E. or the ATV aDrums? This is for a worship setting. Just your simple, push-comes-to-shove answer 😊
Atv
65 Drums Thanks! I’ve thought about buying the ATV’s without the ad5 module and purchasing a used mimic pro module for the set. Thoughts?
Question. Is the hi-hat problem fixed on the Strike Pro?
Captain XXXGamer yes, it’s a one piece now